1 00:00:02,480 --> 00:00:04,240 Speaker 1: The thing is like when you lose a parent like 2 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 1: that so quickly, it's just meant all of the lessons 3 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 1: that you hear, like from a young age, and all 4 00:00:09,119 --> 00:00:11,319 Speaker 1: the things that he would tell me are like so 5 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:14,240 Speaker 1: much more vividly now and like now I'm in position 6 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:17,800 Speaker 1: to where I'm actually living in. It means a lot, 7 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 1: you know, to be able to wear his jersey, to 8 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 1: you know, play the same position, to you know, be 9 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 1: in the same room, the same facilities. Man, you know, 10 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 1: it means a lot to me. Some of your reporters 11 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 1: out here, you're probably all fascinating. Let's clear the records. 12 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 1: There's no way in hell that guarant's fascinated. Welcome into 13 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 1: the lounge. Hopefully you're listening to this on your way 14 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 1: to the Ravens second preseason game of the year against 15 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 1: the ram or if you're not going to the game, 16 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 1: you know, maybe you're one of our international listeners. You're 17 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 1: listening to it as you're getting for the game. You 18 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:02,280 Speaker 1: should be on a plane listening to it. You get 19 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 1: on that private jet, fly over here for the pass anyway, 20 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:08,759 Speaker 1: it's right around the corner. And you know, one guy 21 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 1: that's in the news a lot and a key figure 22 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 1: in this game is Orlando Brown Jr. The Ravens rookie 23 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 1: third round offensive tackle. Uh. He was competing for the 24 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 1: starting right tackle job, and he's right in the thick 25 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:22,480 Speaker 1: of it. Looks like, you know, he could he could 26 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:24,319 Speaker 1: be the guy. He could very well be the guy. 27 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 1: I think that My guess is that he probably will 28 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:28,480 Speaker 1: end up being the guy, and I think the Ravens 29 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 1: want him to be the guy. He's getting he's getting 30 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:33,559 Speaker 1: a good long look at that position, and I thought 31 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 1: his first showing in the Hall of Fame game was good. Yeah, 32 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 1: but before we get into our interview with Orlando, you 33 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:42,040 Speaker 1: got a question? Do we do have a question? This? 34 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:43,679 Speaker 1: When it comes from Kevin and as always you guys 35 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 1: can email us at the lounge at Ravens dot NFL 36 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 1: dot net. The question is, so, Garrett and make this 37 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 1: is it. I'm calling my shot right now and saying 38 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 1: the Ravens will head to the Super Bowl and win 39 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 1: it early. Here this is this year just feels different. 40 00:01:58,120 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 1: Here's my question that what do you guys think will 41 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 1: be the artist position battle to the side. Well, I 42 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 1: do think right tackle will be an interesting one because 43 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 1: there's Orlando, there's James Hurst, who has not played at 44 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 1: all at right tackle during training camp because Marshall he's 45 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:12,640 Speaker 1: been playing mostly right guard right Hurst has been at 46 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 1: right guard. Yonda is out because John has not been practicing. 47 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 1: He just returned to practice this week, but it's not 48 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 1: yet in full team drills. So when Yonda's back, it 49 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:21,920 Speaker 1: will be really interesting to see what the Ravens do 50 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 1: with James Hurst. Does he go to right tackle and 51 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:28,079 Speaker 1: then bump Orlando or they just start an actual competition 52 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:31,240 Speaker 1: at that they started, yeah, Or does he go to 53 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 1: left back to left guard where he started sixteen games 54 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 1: last year and bump maybe Alex Lewis is center exactly. 55 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 1: It's gonna be interesting. It's gonna be really interesting. So 56 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:41,079 Speaker 1: I think that's probably the other one too. I'd say 57 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 1: his sidelinebacker. You've got Kenny Young, who the Ravens like 58 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 1: they're high on him. The u c l A him 59 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:52,799 Speaker 1: and Patrick Owasso Peanuts started there last year, but um, 60 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:54,919 Speaker 1: but Kenny Young is pushinghim for that job. And then 61 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 1: the other one we've talked about it before, is I 62 00:02:57,240 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 1: would say corner, you know, Brandon Carmlin Humphrey. That one 63 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 1: is interesting because you know Marlin's had his ups and 64 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 1: downs in camp. I mean, I don't put a ton 65 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 1: of stuck into that. I think Marlin is gonna be 66 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 1: a great corner and I'm not too worried. But you know, 67 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 1: Brandon's been solid, and so you know, it's hasn't been 68 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 1: like Marlin's come out and just absolutely locked everybody up 69 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 1: and just been a no doubt he should be the 70 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 1: starter kind of guy. And we all know Brandon's We've 71 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:22,919 Speaker 1: said it a million times. Brandon has never missed a 72 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:25,079 Speaker 1: start throughout his entire career, and that's a streak that 73 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 1: he's definitely prideful of. Yeah, so those those are the 74 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:30,919 Speaker 1: three spots you mentioned. You gotta you gotta throw another 75 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 1: one out here. We're just never never saying you noticed 76 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 1: quarterback is not one of them starting quarterbacks. Just for 77 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 1: you know, there's the mar Jackson lovers out there. We 78 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 1: love you, but that's not one of them. Right yet. 79 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 1: All right, So with that said, let's go ahead and 80 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 1: welcome in our guest rookie offensive linement, Orlando Brown. I 81 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 1: think we gotta kick this off by just saying this 82 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 1: guy is Houdini over here. Track them down for the interview. 83 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:55,120 Speaker 1: Were lunch right next to him. You and I get 84 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 1: you know, Marland is like, I'm a little hungy, and 85 00:03:56,800 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 1: then it gets must We're eating lunch right next to him, 86 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 1: waiting for the high sign that you know, I'm ready. 87 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 1: So I get it and I'm like, all right, go 88 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 1: to put it up my tray. Look around. I can't 89 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 1: find the biggest guy in the building. How do you 90 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 1: lose the biggest guy in the building. I was shocked. 91 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 1: He comes out of this like side Janitor's closset. I'm like, 92 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:21,479 Speaker 1: what were you doing? Where are you? So? This is uh, 93 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 1: I'm you know, I'm just happy that that you have 94 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 1: enough energy to walk over to this side of the building. 95 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 1: Because you have not missed a rep yet from what 96 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 1: I've seen it. Have you seriously missed a single rep 97 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 1: since rookie camp started? Oh? No, no, I haven't. Yeah, 98 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 1: I mean I'm I'm in for the majority of all 99 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 1: of it. The ones are in sometimes, if the twos 100 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 1: are in, I'm going with them. Been in with the threes. Uh, 101 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm just I'm soaking it all in and 102 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:47,920 Speaker 1: you know, trying to make the best of my opportunity. 103 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:53,039 Speaker 1: Just I mean, how how tired are you? At this point. No, 104 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 1: I'm fine, man, I'm good. You know, it's football prepare 105 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 1: my mom tradition, no matter the situation on where I 106 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 1: was gonna go in April, and I'm yeah, I'm just 107 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 1: glad it's here. You know, obviously the workload is a lot, 108 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:05,719 Speaker 1: but I mean, man, I'm just I want to be 109 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 1: the best at it. Well, I guess all those questions 110 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 1: about your conditioning level or happen into it no longer concerned. Yeah, 111 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:18,119 Speaker 1: I'm very much in shape. Right, let's just go ahead 112 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 1: and get the combin stuff out of the way now, right, 113 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 1: because that was such like that was such a big, 114 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:27,159 Speaker 1: big discussion about you going to the draft. Was that hard? 115 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 1: Like how long did it take for you to get 116 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 1: over the whole combine discussion? Yeah? I mean, man, you 117 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 1: know what happened if the combine happened. You know, every team, 118 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 1: every NFL team that I sat down, what I told him. 119 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 1: You know, Hey, I'm going to test way below average. 120 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 1: You know, my numbers aren't going to be in the 121 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:45,279 Speaker 1: top you know, I'll probably be dead last in the forty. 122 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:48,160 Speaker 1: My bench press isn't gonna be all that well, you know, 123 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:49,919 Speaker 1: And I mean at the end of the day. I 124 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:52,479 Speaker 1: wasn't wrong, you know, so so it really was. So 125 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 1: it's interesting to like for you, it wasn't like everyone 126 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 1: looked at it and they're like, oh my god, shocked. 127 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 1: For you, you were kind of like I came out 128 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 1: here and I competed, but I sort of expected this 129 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:04,840 Speaker 1: result exactly, you know. And although like like I said, 130 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 1: I mean I came back on my pro day six 131 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 1: days later and ran a five, a five, I mean 132 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 1: the five six three after, you know, not really having 133 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:15,840 Speaker 1: much time to work on it from the combine. So um, 134 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 1: I mean, man, I just I didn't do all that well. 135 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:21,359 Speaker 1: I don't. I didn't do my best at the combine, 136 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 1: you know. But I mean, like I said, I told teams, man, 137 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 1: you know, this is this is what I'm want to run. 138 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 1: It's just who I am and I play football, right. 139 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 1: Do you feel like that other players, because there's kind 140 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:34,279 Speaker 1: of two schools the thought with the combine one is 141 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 1: just don't do stuff right. And Ozzi actually said after 142 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 1: drafting that he liked the fact that you go out there. 143 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 1: You said, I'm gonna give a shot. Like I know, 144 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:42,920 Speaker 1: I might be the slowest guy out there, but I'm 145 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:46,280 Speaker 1: gonna run like, do you think that some players may say, 146 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 1: you know what, I'm not even gonna put myself into 147 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 1: that spot of trying to do it because I don't 148 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 1: want to test poorly. Yeah. Um, you know, man, I 149 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:56,920 Speaker 1: just think that it's really just based on you know, 150 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:00,600 Speaker 1: who you are as a person, your character, Uh, you know, 151 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 1: what's your film says and from there, you know, man, 152 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:05,599 Speaker 1: I mean if I could go back and redo it, 153 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 1: I still redo the combine. Yeah, absolutely, you know there 154 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 1: is there's I don't you know what happened happened. You know, 155 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 1: that doesn't change the way that I attacked my craft, 156 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 1: the way that you know, I attacked the weight room 157 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 1: and all those different things. It was. It's just bound 158 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 1: to happen, man, And you know, it's very fortunate. Some 159 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 1: people are fortunate. You know, there are guys that are 160 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 1: gonna go to this combine next year and have horrible film, 161 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 1: but to run for seven four eights, And I mean, 162 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 1: somebody's going to get an opportunity because their measurables compared 163 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 1: to you know, someone in this in this league that's 164 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 1: been in the league, that's played in a high level. 165 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 1: So you know, man, it's really up to the gems 166 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 1: and the head coaches on what they like and you know, 167 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 1: what they see and when they want what they want 168 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 1: to compare. You know, I just look at it as 169 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 1: the combine makes it a lot easier for these gems 170 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 1: and these coaches to compare people to the last person, 171 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 1: you know, whether that be me to Trenton Brown or uh, 172 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 1: you know, I don't know. Bobby Evans is guy from 173 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 1: my school next year that you know, someone will probably 174 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 1: compared to Trent Williams. So, you know, man, it's just 175 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 1: all about you know, what they see in that. Oh. 176 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 1: I thought it was interesting how you kind of uh, 177 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 1: you know, a month or so removed from it after 178 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 1: we drafted you. You kind of almost like put fun 179 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 1: at at it, and you know you were like, Hey, 180 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 1: some of your reporters out here, you're probably all fascinating. 181 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 1: Let's clear the records. There's no way in hell that 182 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 1: Garret's fascinated this dude is. So I don't know, man, 183 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 1: I'm pretty slow. Man. I know my teen yards split 184 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 1: is is actually isn't that bad. But forty yards I'm 185 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:39,080 Speaker 1: shot at done. But I mean I do it all seriousness, 186 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 1: Like I thought it was. It was cool the way 187 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:44,320 Speaker 1: you handled it and like, you know, because the internet, 188 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:46,960 Speaker 1: like we saw it on Twitter, like Twitter is vicious, 189 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 1: it certainly can be. And like it seemed like you 190 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:51,560 Speaker 1: just kind of rolled with it, you know, like the 191 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 1: more that you can have kind of fun with it 192 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 1: and the better off you're gonna be. What was your 193 00:08:56,880 --> 00:08:58,959 Speaker 1: experience of that, Oh, man, I mean I just kind 194 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 1: of going with the flow. You I mean, I've always 195 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:03,320 Speaker 1: been slow. I've never really been the strongest guy in 196 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:06,079 Speaker 1: the weight room. That's just who I am as a person. 197 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:08,440 Speaker 1: And I'm still growing. I'm still trying to be the 198 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 1: best at everything that I approached. But I mean, you know, 199 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:13,440 Speaker 1: there's just some things that you can control and can't control. Bro. 200 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 1: I just I'm not a fast guy. I got huge bones, 201 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:21,080 Speaker 1: a lot of weight, not the most flexible lower body. Like, 202 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:24,440 Speaker 1: I'm just not a fast guy, right, Yeah, But it 203 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 1: all works out in your favor, you know, because at 204 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:31,599 Speaker 1: the end of the day, you end up here in Baltimore. Um, 205 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:33,960 Speaker 1: you know, there was all this discussion obviously leading up 206 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 1: to the draft about maybe this could be the guy, 207 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:37,679 Speaker 1: and maybe it happened later than you wanted. But at 208 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 1: the at the end of the day, you come to 209 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:42,559 Speaker 1: a place that's home for you? Is this every guy 210 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:44,320 Speaker 1: who after they get drafted, it's kind of like, oh, 211 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 1: I was hoping it was gonna be the Ravens. Yeah, 212 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 1: I was. That's what I thought it was gonna be. 213 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 1: You have said the same thing if it had been 214 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 1: the Patriots, exactly. I had a feeling. I hadn't feel 215 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 1: like everyone says that, but I get the sense that 216 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:58,079 Speaker 1: you actually kind of did feel that way. You had 217 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:01,200 Speaker 1: no doubt that. Um, you know, I this new really 218 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:03,680 Speaker 1: going into the draft that you know, there was a 219 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 1: couple of teams I think that probably favored me more 220 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:09,200 Speaker 1: so than others, just based off scheme, based off who 221 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 1: I am as a player, and you know, I think 222 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 1: my character, you know, and there there's probably I mean, 223 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:17,440 Speaker 1: I want to say, probably around like four or five 224 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:20,560 Speaker 1: teams that I think, you know, I really really fitted 225 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 1: their mode completely. And I mean this is this is 226 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 1: one of the places, and you know, this is this 227 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 1: is home. This's is somewhere that I've grown up. I've 228 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 1: just been doing me since I was born. I've been 229 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:32,600 Speaker 1: coach hardball since I guess I was around eight or so. 230 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 1: So um, yeah, man, I mean I kind of knew 231 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 1: I knew, you know, the places that were very interesting, 232 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 1: and you know it is I'm blessed to be here. 233 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:43,560 Speaker 1: I'll give me credit. He did pick you in his 234 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 1: seven round. Yeah, I'll give him. Wow. I've never seen 235 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 1: anybody is excited. I think, as you the video, where 236 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 1: were you watching? Probably like yeah, so it's like a 237 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:03,080 Speaker 1: barn yard, but I was upstairs in the barnyard and 238 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:05,319 Speaker 1: like when you were on the phone, like the video, 239 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 1: like you're like, dope, best we can't say, I don't 240 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 1: give you like dost me like, don't play with me. 241 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 1: I wish you could roll that audio, but like just 242 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 1: take us into that emotion. Oh man, I just saw 243 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 1: him sitting down and I'm talking to my roommate Quinn. 244 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 1: And you know one of his best friends from junior 245 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 1: college was Michael Gallup that just got drafted from Colorado State, 246 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 1: and he was like a pick or two before me. 247 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 1: I think, and uh, you know, I'm on my phone 248 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 1: and I forgot the web. It was some Twitter like 249 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:40,440 Speaker 1: page that had all of the draft draft picks, like 250 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:43,079 Speaker 1: before they were on television, So you know I'm watching. 251 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 1: I'm like, hey, bro, like MG is going to Dallas. 252 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 1: He's like, oh man, that's super dope. Broke out of 253 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 1: that and like make conversation. The four one oh area 254 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 1: code starts rolling. And so, man, I mean honestly, like 255 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:55,840 Speaker 1: I'm sitting here thinking to myself, like, you know, like 256 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 1: coming to Baltimore would be more like more dream than anything. 257 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:01,959 Speaker 1: So I someone's playing on my phone, you know, so 258 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 1: I answer, and I was like, you're ready to be 259 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 1: a raven. I was just like, bro, I know you're 260 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 1: not gonna put me in this black and go. I 261 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:11,959 Speaker 1: just know it's not going down. And he's like, relaxed, 262 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 1: don't tell anybody yet, don't play in public. We still 263 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 1: got four more picks to go or something like that. 264 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:20,320 Speaker 1: And uh yeah, I mean I was just so excited man, 265 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 1: that that is really really neat. So when when you 266 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 1: got when you got here, how surreal was it just 267 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 1: to be back in the same place as your dad? Yeah? 268 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 1: Very surreal man. Uh you know, this is like I said, 269 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 1: he basically, you know pretty much his career kind of 270 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:40,320 Speaker 1: started here, you know, and uh, you know with this 271 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 1: franchise from Cleveland to the original move here and you know, 272 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 1: going back to Cleveland and coming back to finish his 273 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 1: career here. Man, it means a lot, you know, to 274 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 1: be able to wear his jersey, to you know, play 275 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 1: the same position, to you know, be in the same room, 276 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 1: the same facilities. Man, you know, it means a lot 277 00:12:57,080 --> 00:12:58,679 Speaker 1: to me to represent him. I think we got to 278 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 1: back up a little bit, just for listening who aren't 279 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 1: completely aware of your backstory. I mean listeners under a rock. 280 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 1: But you know, my father in lawless is this and 281 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:09,320 Speaker 1: he's like a new fan. So I feel like I'm 282 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:12,079 Speaker 1: talking to him right now. Okay, So for those who 283 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:16,320 Speaker 1: don't know, Orlando Zeus Brown Senior played for the Ravens 284 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 1: for six seasons, from like you said, the start, the 285 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:22,839 Speaker 1: very beginning, and then again from two thousand three two 286 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:25,560 Speaker 1: that's and five. He was beloved just kind of a 287 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:28,960 Speaker 1: gentle giant, like just a nasty dude on the field, 288 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 1: and like everybody loved him off of it. Um, maybe 289 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:35,959 Speaker 1: not his opponents. I don't know. Maybe I'm not really sure. Um. 290 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 1: But then he tragically died in two thousand eleven at 291 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 1: the age of forty from diabetic keto acidosis. Okay, together, um, 292 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 1: and so you know, you just following in his footsteps, 293 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 1: like you said, is it's unreal. It's a dream. Uh. 294 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 1: What I want to hear from the start of this 295 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:59,320 Speaker 1: is what your favorite story was as a kid being 296 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:02,320 Speaker 1: out at training camp practice around the ravens watching your 297 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:07,080 Speaker 1: dad play. Yeah, um, man, like most people know, my 298 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:12,600 Speaker 1: dad's a fighter. It's so I've never had the opportunity 299 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 1: to meet bart Scott man, but they were inside drill 300 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 1: and man, I can't remember if bart Scott showed Jamal 301 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 1: Lewis after the player what, But I just know Bart 302 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 1: Scott's home. It came off flew fifteen yards. He's already 303 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 1: kind of a smaller linebacker, and so remember my dad's 304 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 1: on top of him. I remember, like there's like a 305 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 1: cameracruiter like from Fox five or whatever. It's just like, 306 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 1: I don't know why, but that memory sticks out the 307 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 1: most of me. Bro. Sorry, bart Scott, he was sorry 308 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 1: with your dad. Yeah. I don't even I can't remember 309 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 1: completely how transpired. But this funny did you were you 310 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 1: like a fighter in college or are you a fighter too? Yeah? Man, 311 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 1: I mean I just I mean, I don't want to 312 00:14:55,520 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 1: get fined right now, so maybe that's something I have 313 00:14:57,600 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 1: to say for later, that he would be a good 314 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 1: fighter in a second Yeah, second contract maybe, but then 315 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 1: I just I don't have enough money to spare right 316 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 1: that right right now, so you know, and in a 317 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 1: serious no, obviously it's it's nobody ever wants to lose 318 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 1: a parent. And I'm sure that was just an incredibly 319 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 1: difficult moment for you. And just how did you handle 320 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 1: I mean that specific day and how did you grow 321 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 1: from that experience and shape you to who you are today? Yeah? Man, 322 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 1: the biggest thing for me, I think, um my dad 323 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 1: always would prepare us, like at the early age for 324 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 1: if he were to pass when we were young, and 325 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 1: he would always say, you know, hey, if I were 326 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 1: to die, this should carry on. If I were to die, 327 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:41,400 Speaker 1: this should happen. You know, Hey, if something bad happens 328 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 1: to me, you should be able to you know, and 329 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 1: so um, kind of like throughout my life he kind 330 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 1: of prepped me for it. And you know, when he passed, 331 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 1: so suddenly, Um, you know, one of the reasons I 332 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 1: was able to continue to grow as a person is 333 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 1: because I understood those things, you know, and I had 334 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 1: the game of football to turn too, you know, and 335 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 1: that was for me, like it was my coping mechanism 336 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 1: as far as like, you know, if I'm thinking about 337 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 1: him or something's bothering me, just kind of channeling it 338 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:09,040 Speaker 1: in that way to better myself on the field, you know, 339 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 1: more so motivation than anything. And that's kind of how 340 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 1: I got to this point and how I've continued to 341 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 1: grow and all of those other things. And obviously I 342 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 1: got a lot of other emotions and uh, you know why. 343 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 1: It is why I played play the game. But um, 344 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:23,360 Speaker 1: you know, man, that's just kind of how I dealt 345 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 1: with it. Why do you think he said that stuff. 346 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 1: If I passed, I would yeah, why? Um, well, my 347 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 1: grandfather was the same way, you know, and I think, uh, 348 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 1: you know, my my dad and my grandfather, they were 349 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 1: really big believers in, you know, your sons should be 350 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 1: able to take over your role if something were to happen. 351 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 1: And you know, my grandfather tried to prep my dad 352 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 1: the same way, you know, from me he was a 353 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 1: young age and so, uh, you know, my grandparents were 354 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:54,360 Speaker 1: pretty old parents with my dad already. So I think 355 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 1: my grandmother had my dad when she was forty going 356 00:16:56,560 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 1: on forty one. Yeah, so I think my grandfather's close 357 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 1: to fifties, so um yeah, man, I mean that day 358 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 1: was a little closer yeah, exactly. So that's just kind 359 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 1: of how the way. That's just kind of how it operated. 360 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 1: And um, you know what I mean, I'm glad he 361 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 1: did that. So did you did you play you say, 362 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:17,239 Speaker 1: you know you channeled into football? Did you play like 363 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 1: more angry at times? Or what? Yeah? No doubt, man, Um, 364 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 1: you know, I just it just it effects. I've always 365 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:28,879 Speaker 1: played aggressively, uh you know, but I mean, man, just 366 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:31,159 Speaker 1: kind of when it happened, it's just you know, it 367 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 1: just motivated me more, you know, to go harder, to 368 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:37,200 Speaker 1: be more consistent to you know, and like the thing 369 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 1: is like when you lose a parent like that so quickly, 370 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:42,200 Speaker 1: it's just meant all of the lessons that you hear, 371 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 1: like from a young age and all the things that 372 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:47,160 Speaker 1: he would tell me are like so much more vividly now. 373 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:49,560 Speaker 1: And like now I'm in position to where I'm actually 374 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:52,400 Speaker 1: living in you know, and it's just like just all 375 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 1: of that. Man. I was just I was kind of 376 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:56,879 Speaker 1: going through a lot emotionally. So I'm a person that 377 00:17:56,960 --> 00:17:58,520 Speaker 1: when I played a game of football, I played with 378 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 1: my emotions. So yeah, man, there's just a lot right. Well, 379 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:06,360 Speaker 1: I'm also kind of interested in you say, you're going 380 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:09,679 Speaker 1: through a lot, and I feel like you've talked about, 381 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 1: you know, being like a bigger kid, like being kind 382 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:15,399 Speaker 1: of a younger like a fat kid. Right. Was that 383 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:19,360 Speaker 1: something that you were really battling at that point too? Yeah, 384 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 1: no doubt, man, I mean like just really like you know, 385 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:24,199 Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying, Like it's a lot, you know, 386 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:27,360 Speaker 1: like because at the time, you know, I feel like 387 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 1: I didn't although I had family and my brothers and 388 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:32,880 Speaker 1: my mom, like I just didn't have anybody to turn 389 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:35,640 Speaker 1: to for emotional support. So you know, I just kind 390 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:38,679 Speaker 1: of like use football is that, you know, for the 391 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 1: opportunity to say, Okay, I'm fat, Like you know, this 392 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:44,720 Speaker 1: is what I do. You know, where I just lost 393 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:46,639 Speaker 1: my dad, but this is what I do, you know, 394 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 1: And uh so it was just kind of it was 395 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:51,760 Speaker 1: kind of like that, man. And I've never really completely 396 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:53,760 Speaker 1: been the type of person to be insecure, you know 397 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 1: about myself and my body, you know, So I mean 398 00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 1: why God had me think in that way, I mean, 399 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 1: it just it motivated me. It got me to a point, 400 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 1: and you know, I can honestly say, like now, like 401 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:08,120 Speaker 1: I'm not playing like the fat kid in my mind, 402 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 1: like you know, like, I'm not angry because you know 403 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 1: I was a fat kid or anything like that, but uh, yeah, man, 404 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:15,639 Speaker 1: I was just going through a lot of mostly I 405 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 1: was a teenager, so a lot of kids struggle with that. 406 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:22,640 Speaker 1: Kids do. What what's kind of your advice to kids? 407 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:29,959 Speaker 1: You yeah? I mean, man, you know, the thing is like, uh, recognizing, 408 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:35,760 Speaker 1: you know, your pros and cons, whether that be physically, emotionally, mentally, 409 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:39,720 Speaker 1: you know, all of those two spiritually just accepting them 410 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 1: and kind of growing from there and being what you 411 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:45,680 Speaker 1: believe and what you know is the right thing to be. 412 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:48,520 Speaker 1: And you know, for me as an individual, I knew 413 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:50,639 Speaker 1: that to play this game at a high level, I 414 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 1: needed to lose weight, you know, and I needed to 415 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:54,720 Speaker 1: reshape my body. And that's something that I'm still doing 416 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 1: it and been doing my whole life. And um, you know, man, 417 00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:00,879 Speaker 1: I just I was very real with myself, often very honest. 418 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:02,800 Speaker 1: And you know what I would tell any kid is 419 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:05,439 Speaker 1: just be honest with yourself. You know, if you know 420 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 1: what you want to do and you know where you 421 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 1: want to go or healthy habits in life, like you know, 422 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:12,200 Speaker 1: you're not gonna be able to do that being obese. 423 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 1: And I understand it's easier said than done, you know, 424 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 1: but it's very much possible. You know. One thing that 425 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:20,760 Speaker 1: strikes me you're talking is that we did a podcast 426 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:23,520 Speaker 1: with two arti Is leading up to the draft. He 427 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:25,440 Speaker 1: talked about how they always like guys that have come 428 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:29,240 Speaker 1: overcome something right, They love players that have basically they've 429 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 1: they've gone through a hardship and they've come out the 430 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:32,480 Speaker 1: other side of it, and you have dealt with that 431 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 1: in many ways. I'm just curious how that kind of 432 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:38,680 Speaker 1: still shapes you today, basically bouncing back from those things 433 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:42,320 Speaker 1: and not letting it hold you down. Yeah. Um, you 434 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 1: know the way my dad raised me and my mom, 435 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 1: Like I said, with the you know, if he were 436 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 1: to pass type scenarios, Uh, it was just really the 437 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 1: same way in life. You know, like, man, you're gonna 438 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:54,440 Speaker 1: get knocked down. You know, you're gonna get punched in 439 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 1: the face, You're gonna lose fights, you're gonna lose a 440 00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 1: pass set, you're gonna lose something like it is what 441 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 1: it is. You know, It's all about growing, learning, accepting, 442 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:05,919 Speaker 1: being real with yourself and going from there, you know. 443 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:08,640 Speaker 1: And that's that's something that in my life I've been 444 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 1: able to develop is you know, forgetting the last play, 445 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:13,920 Speaker 1: you know and moving on to the next one. You know. 446 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:16,199 Speaker 1: So let's flash forward to today. You know, when you 447 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:20,399 Speaker 1: finished these practices, it stood out to me. You well, 448 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 1: I said, Lamar Jackson, because everyon wants to talk to 449 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson, but for the rookies, everyone wants to take 450 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:26,639 Speaker 1: pictures with you and wants to get autographs with you. 451 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 1: And obviously a lot of that has to do with 452 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 1: the fact that they watched your dad play here has 453 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:34,120 Speaker 1: that been? They saw you as a kid, I remember 454 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 1: you as a kid. That's that's kind of the funny thing. 455 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 1: We actually were just having lunch with with a guy 456 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 1: who's our mascot. We won't reveal his name. We got 457 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 1: to keep some secrecy or Gal guy or Gal yes 458 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:49,359 Speaker 1: secrecy here. And they were saying that they remember coming 459 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 1: to your birthday party when you were a kid. Got 460 00:21:55,520 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 1: the pictures. It was a second grade um missing again 461 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:03,119 Speaker 1: haml Yeah. I remember. I just think I turned seven 462 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 1: or eight that they came in. They were like doing 463 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:09,439 Speaker 1: they were breakdancing on the lunch tables. I remember, like 464 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:11,720 Speaker 1: I got out of class early. Like we went down 465 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:15,639 Speaker 1: to my brother's first first grade classroom. I remember the 466 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 1: next day like my biggest crush, Like she thought it 467 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 1: was the cutest thing, bro. It was. It was. It 468 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:26,359 Speaker 1: was so dope. That just set off the and you know, 469 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:28,879 Speaker 1: my birthdays in May, so it was like leading up 470 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 1: right till summer. So it was just perfect time. And 471 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:38,720 Speaker 1: dude is a great wing man. Is it awesome that 472 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:40,760 Speaker 1: when you when you walk off that practice field and 473 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:42,639 Speaker 1: and everyone seems like they've got a story for you, 474 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:45,159 Speaker 1: like literally like everyone's gott I remember you in the 475 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:46,840 Speaker 1: fourth grade and you did this that you ate at 476 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 1: my restaurant like all that. Um man, I mean, it's 477 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 1: it's more so surreal than anything, you know, just kind 478 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:55,919 Speaker 1: of being to be in this position and you know, 479 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 1: to be on the other side of things because a 480 00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:00,960 Speaker 1: lot of people, you know, man, I think a lot 481 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:03,880 Speaker 1: of kids like that were in my similar situation, don't 482 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 1: make it. You know a lot of guys like get 483 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:08,960 Speaker 1: to college and you know, college is the last stop, 484 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:11,480 Speaker 1: or you know, maybe they don't even get to go 485 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:13,480 Speaker 1: to a big division one college. High school is the 486 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 1: last stop. And you know too, I think for a 487 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:18,160 Speaker 1: lot of these people to to see where I started 488 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:21,560 Speaker 1: at as a person, and you know, to go through 489 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:23,359 Speaker 1: those things and to get to this point in life 490 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 1: where it's like wow, like you know, he's living his dream, 491 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 1: he's in the NFL. It's just very you know, probably 492 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 1: surreal for them too, But you know, man, I just 493 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 1: I take it all in, and you know, I don't 494 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 1: take anything for granted, you know, and you know I 495 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:38,720 Speaker 1: don't listen to the outside noise, but you know when 496 00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:41,240 Speaker 1: I do appreciate all those people that have seen me grow. 497 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:43,680 Speaker 1: Was there any part of you, you know, I asked 498 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:45,720 Speaker 1: you earlier, like about how you you felt like you 499 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:47,199 Speaker 1: wanted to come here and all that, But was there 500 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:49,440 Speaker 1: any part of you that was like, you know that 501 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:52,399 Speaker 1: the only downside of going there is that I'm always 502 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:54,879 Speaker 1: going to be compared to my dad. There's added pressure. 503 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:56,919 Speaker 1: Everybody knows me, Like, was there any part of you 504 00:23:57,040 --> 00:24:01,960 Speaker 1: that was like, that's that's the negative it comes us baggage? Yeah? Yeah? 505 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:04,320 Speaker 1: Or not? Yeah? I didn't. I mean I didn't look 506 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 1: at it like that. Man. I mean, I just you know, 507 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 1: obviously coming here is more pressure, more so than you know, 508 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:13,120 Speaker 1: going anywhere else. But you know, man, I mean say 509 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:15,399 Speaker 1: I would would have went to New England. You know. 510 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:17,880 Speaker 1: I mean, Belichick was the guy that gave my dad 511 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:20,160 Speaker 1: an opportunity in Cleveland, you know, and so it would 512 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:23,080 Speaker 1: have been pressure there or you know, I mean even 513 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:25,119 Speaker 1: I went towhere like Jacksonville would have been pressure on 514 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:26,960 Speaker 1: your dad played in the league. So you know, obviously 515 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:29,280 Speaker 1: it's a little bit more here. But I mean, man, 516 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:31,159 Speaker 1: I don't look at it from that perspective. I just 517 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:33,919 Speaker 1: you know, I mean, like I said, he's my motivation 518 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:36,359 Speaker 1: and you know, things that he's done and did in 519 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:39,240 Speaker 1: this league, or my motivation. So let's talk a little 520 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:42,960 Speaker 1: bit of football here. Uh how crazy is it to you? 521 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:45,960 Speaker 1: Or maybe it's not at all that Like I mean, 522 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:49,200 Speaker 1: right now, you you're competing for that starting right tackle spilot. 523 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:50,960 Speaker 1: I mean you can get started day one. That doesn't 524 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:53,240 Speaker 1: happen a whole lot. You know. Just how are you 525 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 1: kind of looking at that competition? Yeah? Man, I'm just 526 00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:59,440 Speaker 1: enjoying getting better. You know. I haven't too much tried 527 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:02,240 Speaker 1: to pay to much attention to, uh to the competition 528 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:04,359 Speaker 1: part of it. You know. I'm just really focused on 529 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:08,240 Speaker 1: myself and and developing my game as much as possible. Uh, 530 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:10,119 Speaker 1: you know, man, And I just I want to be 531 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:12,960 Speaker 1: the best tackle on this on this team, you know, 532 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:14,840 Speaker 1: and I want to be the best tackle in the 533 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 1: league and the best tackle in the world. So you know, man, 534 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:19,680 Speaker 1: I've got my goals that I've set, and you know, 535 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:22,040 Speaker 1: I'm just enjoying it better. I actually after the Hall 536 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 1: of Fame game about the challenge of moving from left 537 00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:25,920 Speaker 1: to right, I'm just curious to talk about that a 538 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:28,119 Speaker 1: little bit more. And how difficult is it? Is it 539 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:31,479 Speaker 1: that what you expected? Is it more challenging? Yeah, Um, 540 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:34,960 Speaker 1: you know, man, it's it's it's a little different, you know, 541 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:37,439 Speaker 1: but I'm just enjoying it. You know, football is a 542 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:41,680 Speaker 1: game of muscle memory, especially in my position, and you know, man, 543 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:44,480 Speaker 1: once I've gotten all these reps that I've been getting 544 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:46,880 Speaker 1: with the first, second, and third team, you know, man, 545 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:50,159 Speaker 1: I've got I've gotten plenty opportunities to develop muscle memory, 546 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:53,320 Speaker 1: and it's just kind of clicking, you know, something's translate 547 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:56,080 Speaker 1: over naturally from the left side, like uh, you know, 548 00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 1: my heavy hands. But from there, it was just about 549 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:01,160 Speaker 1: working time and to make sure things are right, uh, 550 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:03,919 Speaker 1: you know, working on certain muscles for uh, you know, 551 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 1: my post leg to redirect and you know, to get 552 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 1: back there and all those different things. But uh, you know, 553 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:11,359 Speaker 1: like I said, like I told you, I never played 554 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 1: right tackle in my life, so you know, all of 555 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:15,240 Speaker 1: his all of his pretty new you know, for my 556 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:17,919 Speaker 1: body and my brain. But I'm getting very good used 557 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:24,560 Speaker 1: to it. Just went up against Nomi consue. He's pretty good. Yeah, yeah, 558 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:27,480 Speaker 1: he's just How how much did the joint practice help 559 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:29,879 Speaker 1: you feel? Like? Yeah, a lot, a lot. Giving me 560 00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:32,120 Speaker 1: the opportunity to work my time and against other people 561 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:34,919 Speaker 1: that don't know my time, you know, and uh, you know, 562 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:38,000 Speaker 1: give me an opportunity to see some different talent, you know. 563 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 1: And then the guys we practice against, you know, no 564 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 1: discredits anyone in this league, but are great players, you know. 565 00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:47,840 Speaker 1: And I mean They've all helped me grow as a 566 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 1: player and allowed my process to grow a lot quicker, 567 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:53,240 Speaker 1: you know, which is one of the reasons I think 568 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:55,640 Speaker 1: I've been able to go out there and consistently get 569 00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:57,719 Speaker 1: better every day because I've been going against them. How 570 00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:02,160 Speaker 1: much this sucks give you a hard time? Yeah, yeah, man, 571 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:04,919 Speaker 1: I mean, like, honestly, I'm just learning. I'm just soaking 572 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:07,240 Speaker 1: it all in. When he beached me, I asked him how, 573 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:10,040 Speaker 1: you know, and what he felt and saw just kind 574 00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:11,760 Speaker 1: of go from there. Is he pretty like can he 575 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 1: really describe it pretty well? Absolutely? Absolutely? Yeah, you know 576 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:17,800 Speaker 1: he's the game is probably so slow to him at 577 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:20,720 Speaker 1: this point in time. The same thing with Marshall is 578 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:23,520 Speaker 1: just probably so slow, you know, man. I mean, he 579 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:27,600 Speaker 1: can see things that others can't. You know, that's really cool. 580 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 1: What do you think your dad would say right now 581 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:33,639 Speaker 1: if you saw you would you know, competing for the 582 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:37,440 Speaker 1: starting that stuff? Man? Honestly that I have no idea, man, 583 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:40,760 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I know he'd be excited. Uh, 584 00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:42,879 Speaker 1: you know, he'd be very happy and proud of me 585 00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:45,639 Speaker 1: that I'm here and you know, I've made it, you know, 586 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 1: to this point in time in my life. Uh, you know, 587 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:50,720 Speaker 1: but for him, he was always about the bigger picture, 588 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:53,840 Speaker 1: you know, and like, although you know he'd be happy 589 00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:56,720 Speaker 1: for me, you know, making it in the NFL, you always, 590 00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:58,959 Speaker 1: you know, be more so concerned with about what I'm 591 00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:00,600 Speaker 1: gonna do when I'm done playing it, you know, And 592 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:02,480 Speaker 1: that would be more so where he's coming from, or 593 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:04,879 Speaker 1: you know, from a perspective of you know, are you 594 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:06,679 Speaker 1: going to be the best tackle in the world, you know, 595 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:08,960 Speaker 1: and all of those different things. So I mean I 596 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,320 Speaker 1: know he'd be proud of me for making it. But man, 597 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:13,399 Speaker 1: you know, I think he's gonna be more proud you 598 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:16,000 Speaker 1: know when I if I ever do get the opportunity 599 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:17,639 Speaker 1: to make it to a Hall of Fame. Would you 600 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:28,880 Speaker 1: have ever fought your dad and training I'm not doing anything. Yeah, 601 00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:31,720 Speaker 1: I wrestle my dad a lot, But I don't know, Yeah, 602 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:33,480 Speaker 1: that would have been the best decision for you. I 603 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:36,879 Speaker 1: tried before. It just never never ended with I'm just 604 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:42,360 Speaker 1: not no, just just not in me. Before we let 605 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:44,000 Speaker 1: you go, I do I do want to ask you 606 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:47,000 Speaker 1: about Lamar. Yeah, I mean, you played at Oklahoma with 607 00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:50,000 Speaker 1: Baker another heis and trophy winner. Now you're with Lamar. 608 00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:55,040 Speaker 1: How do those two compare? How are they different? You know? 609 00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:57,760 Speaker 1: What have you seen from Lamar? Oh? Man? You know, 610 00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:01,280 Speaker 1: just really you know, and obviously I've dealt with Baker 611 00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:06,120 Speaker 1: so much longer. Man. Uh, They're very similar personalities, very 612 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:08,840 Speaker 1: similar styles of the way that they conduct business in 613 00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 1: the huddle, on the field, way they kind of operate, 614 00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:15,280 Speaker 1: very similar, I think in kind of the trades. Obviously, 615 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:19,760 Speaker 1: Lamar is faster, he's probably he's bigger, you know, Um, 616 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:22,440 Speaker 1: he's got those things. Uh. But man, it's kind of 617 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:25,840 Speaker 1: hard to compare. You know, they're they're very much the same, 618 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:28,280 Speaker 1: but different in their own way, you know. And what 619 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:30,800 Speaker 1: about the persona because from the outside looking in, like Baker, 620 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:34,040 Speaker 1: they both got personality, but Baker seems to sort of 621 00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:37,360 Speaker 1: be more brash. Yeah, yeah, no doubt, bro, no doubt. 622 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:39,760 Speaker 1: I mean, you know Bakers, Baker is very out and 623 00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:43,080 Speaker 1: open about who he is. And you know, my biggest 624 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:46,000 Speaker 1: thing for if I'm playing with someone or you know, 625 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:48,719 Speaker 1: it's smart quarterback, just be who you are. You know, 626 00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:52,000 Speaker 1: if Lamar is you know, he's got a big personality, 627 00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:53,720 Speaker 1: but at the same time, you know he kind of 628 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:56,280 Speaker 1: holds it in, you know, and that's who he is. 629 00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:58,920 Speaker 1: Baker is gonna be out and open about it, and 630 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:00,760 Speaker 1: you know, I respect that, you know, where I just 631 00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:02,920 Speaker 1: you know, my thing is just be who you are. Well, 632 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:04,720 Speaker 1: we might get sealed a bit more of who you 633 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:06,960 Speaker 1: and Lamar are because we're trying to convince you guys, 634 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:09,680 Speaker 1: it's your idea. We're talking about doing a podcast in 635 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:11,320 Speaker 1: the off season, So we're gonna try to get the 636 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:14,320 Speaker 1: Orlando Brown and Lamar Jackson podcast going in the off season. 637 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 1: We just can't steal all of our listeners. That's the 638 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:21,080 Speaker 1: only qualifier that will throw up. Yeah, we're gonna feel 639 00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:31,040 Speaker 1: pretty bad about ourselves when their podcast. Thank you so much, man, 640 00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:34,560 Speaker 1: we really appreciate thank you appreciate so yeah, alright, well 641 00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:37,440 Speaker 1: thanks to Orlando. Uh yeah, I like this guy. I 642 00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:40,600 Speaker 1: like him a lot. Yeah. I like his personality. I 643 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:43,040 Speaker 1: like that he is so open and honest and basically 644 00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:45,480 Speaker 1: like doesn't shy away from any questions, doesn't shy away 645 00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:48,480 Speaker 1: from some really difficult things that have happened in his life. 646 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:51,000 Speaker 1: I mean, he's he's a kid and his dad died 647 00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:54,360 Speaker 1: at fourty years old. Like that's I can't imagine that 648 00:30:54,920 --> 00:31:00,320 Speaker 1: he's so um candid about discussing it um discussing a weight, 649 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:03,840 Speaker 1: discussing the combine. I really like him. I like that 650 00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:07,800 Speaker 1: he wears a Barney backpack. He didn't wear a Barni backpack. 651 00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:12,360 Speaker 1: He's got some spongebag swag too. Yeah. Yeah, sing a little. 652 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:16,560 Speaker 1: I love you. You know, I'm trying to remember you 653 00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:20,680 Speaker 1: don't need to sing it. You don't need to you 654 00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:24,080 Speaker 1: You're welcome everybody out. But anyway, yes, I completely agree 655 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:26,120 Speaker 1: with you. I think that Orlando is gonna be really good, 656 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 1: you know, I mean, he's a rookie and there's always 657 00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:30,760 Speaker 1: injusted for every single rookie, and he's working through that. 658 00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:35,520 Speaker 1: But he's doing pretty darn well. So everybody that listens 659 00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:38,400 Speaker 1: to this podcast know how much I love James Hurst. Yeah, 660 00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:41,240 Speaker 1: you know, so I'm rooting for the win a starting job, 661 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:44,640 Speaker 1: but I also love ORLANDA. Brown Jr. Now really torn? 662 00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:50,280 Speaker 1: Yeah there torn, But anyway, really looking forward to this 663 00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:53,680 Speaker 1: second preseason game against the Rams and we'll have tons 664 00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:56,080 Speaker 1: of coverage from that that you all should be listening to. 665 00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:59,240 Speaker 1: You can always reach us at the lounge at Ravens 666 00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:01,880 Speaker 1: dot NFL dot net, and we're going to try to 667 00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:03,880 Speaker 1: get some more big time guests. That was pretty big 668 00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:06,080 Speaker 1: time guest. That's a good one. So we're gonna keep 669 00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:08,080 Speaker 1: it up to make sure you tune in next week