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Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast. It's makeup for an audio podcast.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.

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Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hansas and I am joined in

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Speaker 1: a room filled with heroes, Mark Sessler, Chris Westling, and

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Speaker 1: Greg Rose. I thought, what is up boys? Hey? Dan?

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Speaker 1: Day two free agency and things are happening. Mark. It's

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Speaker 1: like I always have issues sleeping, but a lot of times,

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Speaker 1: like in other times of year, I'll maybe watch a

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Speaker 1: movie in the middle of the night. It's like constant

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Speaker 1: refreshing of Rhodo World and constant like online sessions on

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Speaker 1: Twitter for like two or three hours in the middle

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Speaker 1: of the night. Please let me take you there. Because obviously,

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Speaker 1: and this is not a surprise to anyone, but the

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Speaker 1: Jets are always going to be a huge player in

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Speaker 1: this free agency period for a lot of reasons, uh,

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Speaker 1: not the least of which that they had almost more

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Speaker 1: money than anyone once the C. J. Mosley kN or

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Speaker 1: once the Anthony Barr contract came out, once it was her,

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Speaker 1: you know, the Levy on Bell thing was floating out there.

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Speaker 1: Um I sent a tweet out, you know, being happy

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Speaker 1: about the direction of the Jets free agency, and uh

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Speaker 1: I got a d M seconds later, uh from Mike

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Speaker 1: aara folo who helpful reminder he offered to me, And

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Speaker 1: this is and I respect it. He's a he's a

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Speaker 1: guy from the region as well. Um, he just wrote

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Speaker 1: to me simply, tension here is unfair. He wrote, what's

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Speaker 1: rule number one when you're feeling good as a Jets fan,

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Speaker 1: question mark don't which Immediately I'm like, oh Jesus, what

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Speaker 1: does that mean, Sam donald drug bus, That's it? And

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Speaker 1: then I wrote him back. Uh, you know, I questioned

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Speaker 1: whether Sam Donalds was caught up in a fell type situation.

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Speaker 1: He said, ha haha, not that bad. But what it

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Speaker 1: was was Mike waiting all night by the phone to

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Speaker 1: be able to confirm that Anthony Barr backed out on

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Speaker 1: the Jets. And and then Ian quickly reported that that

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Speaker 1: back out by Anthony Barr could lead to the Jets

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Speaker 1: jumping back into leban Bell And as we're taping this

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Speaker 1: right now and we'll see what happens, be nice of

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Speaker 1: everything got worked out in this next you know, forty

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Speaker 1: five minutes. Uh, that is in the air. So there

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Speaker 1: are a lot of a roller coaster of emotion as

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Speaker 1: a Jets fan and um, that's free agency. Though. I

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Speaker 1: think the Jets lucked out what they were gonna pay

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Speaker 1: Anthony Barr superstar money to have Greg Williams spinkle sprinkle

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Speaker 1: some magic dust on him and change his position as

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Speaker 1: a pro. I know, I know. It's the whole thing

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Speaker 1: is like the Jets fans and Jets were already convinced him,

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Speaker 1: well he didn't in college and like that. Okay, that's

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Speaker 1: that's great, but it's just it's a big chance. Every

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Speaker 1: free agent signing is a huge chance, and that is

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Speaker 1: a huge chance to take. I mean, you can have

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Speaker 1: a huge bus like Tremaine Johnson without taking any chances.

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Speaker 1: That's a huge chance to take. I think they're fine.

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Speaker 1: Anthony air Bar is better off in Minnesota. I thought

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Speaker 1: the same thing. And I live in an irrational, irrational fear,

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Speaker 1: especially if I was a fan of that team that

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Speaker 1: you bring in Greg Williams and then he brings in

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Speaker 1: he's his price, then he's gone after year, you've changed

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Speaker 1: your defense. You brought in a square hole for a

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Speaker 1: round peg or the opposite. I wasn't I wasn't upset

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Speaker 1: about it. I was more like, uh, that's what he

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Speaker 1: was talking about, referring to Mike. The Mosley signing, I

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Speaker 1: liked it, but the fact that it was Mosley and

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Speaker 1: bar I I thought it was a little much at

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Speaker 1: the linebacker position. So maybe at all uh ends up

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Speaker 1: in the wash it works out for the Jets. Usually

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Speaker 1: it doesn't, though, so I'm I'm waiting. I'm waiting on

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Speaker 1: how the other shoe drops. Not a cupcake, snap food

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Speaker 1: this time around. No, nothing like that. Now, and you're

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Speaker 1: still signing people left and right. I mean, you're making c. J.

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Speaker 1: Mosley the richest middle linebacker in the league. You're playing

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Speaker 1: Collecchissemily a ton of money. I like Jamison cra I mean,

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Speaker 1: do you have any of that stuff. Well, that's the

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Speaker 1: other the other party you're cutting Darren Lee. I mean,

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Speaker 1: but I think that's expected. It's Mike mccagnet making up

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Speaker 1: for an with Bar gone. Well otherwise Darren Lee, by

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Speaker 1: the guaranteed money, which gives the Jets easy out if

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Speaker 1: right now. And I think that's a big part of

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Speaker 1: but un bounced. Still as as we speak right now,

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Speaker 1: I'm okay with how things are playing out for Gang

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Speaker 1: Green uh C J. Mosley H. I mean this was

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Speaker 1: I like it as a fit for the Jets to

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Speaker 1: the Ravens. How devastating is it? Ravens have lost terrell

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Speaker 1: sugs Eric Weddle, C J. Mosley, and Zadarius Smith. From

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Speaker 1: feels like a year of transition for the Ravens. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and you're gonna pay a premium if you're the Jets

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Speaker 1: and free agency the Ravens. I'm not that worried about them,

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Speaker 1: just because this is what they do. For years and years.

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Speaker 1: that's not true. Give don't tell me that the Ravens

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Speaker 1: are out of it. In the a f C. No

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Speaker 1: And they have a way of developing guys and you

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Speaker 1: But it's just it's just a lot at once. I'm

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Speaker 1: not saying hand the division to the Browns, but it's

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Speaker 1: undeniable that one of the early trends of this year's

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Speaker 1: with the money that Anthony Barr gets to stay in Minnesota?

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Speaker 1: He had the change of heart. Uh and like Greg

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Speaker 1: think it was his second. Uh yeah, that that he

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Speaker 1: Mike said, it's amazing how many Vikings defensive players have

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Speaker 1: it's definitely a factor. Far all these guys who get

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Speaker 1: Uh for the past two seasons, a four year, sixty

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Speaker 1: six million dollar deal. Like like we're saying, Baltimore loses

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Speaker 1: that Darius Smith and Preston Smith had big, big years

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Speaker 1: It was why can't the Redskins get a better pass

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Speaker 1: it's like, I you know, you can't, you can't worry

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Around the NFL Podcast. I'm honored to

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Speaker 1: take him now, Rosen? What do you do with Rosen?

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Speaker 1: That's really the question, okay, because if you give him

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Speaker 1: away for a third Rosen may be a bust. But

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Speaker 1: Rosen may wake up someday, allow his talented surface through coaching,

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Speaker 1: slash work ethic and become a great quarterback. He has

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Speaker 1: the ability to be a quarter He's got great skills. Um,

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Speaker 1: if you keep him and he beats out Murray. Okay,

432
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Speaker 1: now Mary says, you know, I got that baseball over here.

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Speaker 1: I think it will take a walk to the baseball

434
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Speaker 1: because he can do that. Um. If Rosen doesn't beat

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Speaker 1: him out, well, then you gotta hell of a quarterback

436
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Speaker 1: and Murray. So it's it's it's not a simple answer.

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Speaker 1: I would not give away Rosen for nothing. That's I

438
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Speaker 1: guess where I would start right hold on to him

439
00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:08,719
Speaker 1: and see what see see what you can get when

440
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Speaker 1: you're when you're about to do that hit on on

441
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Speaker 1: up to the minute, Charlie, are you kind of thinking

442
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Speaker 1: in the back of your head like, oh yeah, ESPN producers,

443
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Speaker 1: you better flesh out your a block tomorrow because Cassardley

444
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Speaker 1: is about to break some news. This bomb is gonna

445
00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:23,919
Speaker 1: drop all over the NFL. Are you getting fired up?

446
00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:27,680
Speaker 1: I I I don't think of things, to be honest

447
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Speaker 1: with you, I'm a little naive, but I didn't realize

448
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Speaker 1: that would get that much polishit because of this. Hey,

449
00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:35,680
Speaker 1: guy had to interview I don't know Wednesday or something

450
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Speaker 1: on Thursday. Let me say this, I've seen those interviews

451
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Speaker 1: get go out The next day. I was a little

452
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Speaker 1: surprised that nobody put anything out and I thought, and

453
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Speaker 1: I didn't asked about Carl, I asked about the four

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Speaker 1: top quarterbacks. Give me all the four top quarterbacks, okay,

455
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Speaker 1: from multiple teams, and his was the one that was

456
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Speaker 1: over here. The others were all pretty much in the

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Speaker 1: positive side without any real issues. So hey, here's what

458
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Speaker 1: it is. So anyway, what is uh move that you've

459
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Speaker 1: seen in the last two days that kind of jumps

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Speaker 1: out to you as a home run move for a team? Well, uh,

461
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Speaker 1: Minnesota stealing by Anthony bar Back. Really, I hate to

462
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Speaker 1: say that, so and I've I've been I don't know

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Speaker 1: if I've ever was anyone one like that, But let

464
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Speaker 1: me say this. You're you're gonna strangle somebody when you

465
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Speaker 1: when you when you lose one like that, say hey,

466
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Speaker 1: you great to this deal. Uh you know Mosley obviously

467
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Speaker 1: get getting a twenty six year old or whatever he

468
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Speaker 1: is in free agency. That's a pro bowler. That's what

469
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Speaker 1: you're trying to get. That's what you're trying to get.

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Speaker 1: So you know that one I marked down some things

471
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Speaker 1: I did something with with Taylor uh Scotty for her

472
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Speaker 1: Instagram they're just plugging that for her on that. But

473
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Speaker 1: the Browns, we talked about them improving the pass rush

474
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Speaker 1: Olivia Vernon and Sheldon Richard and you go with Myles Garrett.

475
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Speaker 1: Now you can only double maybe two guys, you can't

476
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Speaker 1: double three. So all of a sudden they got three

477
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Speaker 1: pass rushes, which is pretty good. So, uh, that was

478
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Speaker 1: one team man in your past um in the front office,

479
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Speaker 1: did you ever have an Anthony Barr type situation where

480
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Speaker 1: you kind of it was a handshake deal or an

481
00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:09,080
Speaker 1: agreement in place and you kind of got whacked in

482
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Speaker 1: the end because it feels like something that would stick

483
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Speaker 1: with you. Well, you you'd have some uh that are

484
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Speaker 1: called like college free agents or some things that are

485
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Speaker 1: maybe below the radar and stuff like that. Nothing is

486
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Speaker 1: high profiles as Anthony Barr. What do you think about

487
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Speaker 1: the Jets in general? Like, uh, you know, I know

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Speaker 1: you have a you have a past history with Mike mccagnan,

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Speaker 1: their general manager. You work together, you know him, Like

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Speaker 1: what are you kind of looking at where he's at

491
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Speaker 1: and his in his time with the Jets. And then

492
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Speaker 1: obviously a very aggressive off season so far, even though

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Speaker 1: you know Barr ended up going back. They have added

494
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Speaker 1: a number of starters. Yeah, you know when he went

495
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Speaker 1: in there, Uh, and I think they did the right thing.

496
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Speaker 1: They went for like a two year plan to win

497
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Speaker 1: right now without sacrificing the future as far as draft

498
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Speaker 1: choices or cap room to establish uh some validity in

499
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Speaker 1: the market because it was really down at that point

500
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Speaker 1: and they almost pulled off the playoffs that first year.

501
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Speaker 1: Then getting Donald was was brilliant because he was aggressive

502
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Speaker 1: trading up early to get in a position. Unfortunately he

503
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Speaker 1: got done. Otherwise he would have gotten you know, Mayfield

504
00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:14,280
Speaker 1: maybe okay, so, but they would have gotten a quarterback.

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Speaker 1: So they've got that. Uh, they're being aggressive in free agency.

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Speaker 1: The Bar one really hurts him. I thinking losing him

507
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Speaker 1: because if they got Bar that means on their first

508
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Speaker 1: pick they get a pass rushing They have two bookends,

509
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Speaker 1: which they have not had in a thousand years. That's right,

510
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Speaker 1: So that that that one hurt. But we'll see how

511
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Speaker 1: they rebound in this. But they're off to a good start. Uh.

512
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Speaker 1: They've got to have a good draft. But you know,

513
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Speaker 1: he's hit on the high picks. You gotta do a

514
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Speaker 1: better job in that middle round part. I'm nervous Charlie,

515
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Speaker 1: I'm nervous. I wanted that center. Matt Paradise. He's going

516
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Speaker 1: to Carolina. The Jets, I'm a Jets finch. They need

517
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Speaker 1: to get they need to do some more work. But

518
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Speaker 1: I like to bar Thing hurts them because it took

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Speaker 1: him out of the market in a critical time when

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Speaker 1: they could have been negotiating for other players. That that's

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Speaker 1: where it hurt him. One of my pet peeves Charlie

522
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Speaker 1: is bring in and only one. Yes, this is my

523
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:06,040
Speaker 1: major pet pieces. Struggling franchises, you often see them bringing

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Speaker 1: a new defensive coordinator, change the personnel, change the scheme.

525
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Speaker 1: Then that defensive coordinators out after two years, you change

526
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Speaker 1: your whole scheme, traded away. So when I look at

527
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Speaker 1: Anthony Barr and Greg will Greg Williams is notorious for this.

528
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Speaker 1: He only lasts a couple of years no matter where

529
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Speaker 1: he goes gets rid of everybody who was on the

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Speaker 1: defense before it brings in these guys. Is this a

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Speaker 1: necessary evil or is it something where maybe he should

532
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Speaker 1: be adopting to the talent that's already there. You should

533
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Speaker 1: take the talents it's already there and work with it.

534
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Speaker 1: Now here's the thing would bothers me about Greg Williams.

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Speaker 1: He's a fourth three guy. This is thirty four team now.

536
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Speaker 1: He he said, he's got thirty seven defenses or something

537
00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:43,960
Speaker 1: like that. The guy is creative. The players play hard

538
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Speaker 1: for them. They'll Bob Offers, I've got more defenses than

539
00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:49,720
Speaker 1: job Offers coming out of his ears. The players will

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Speaker 1: buy into him and they'll play hard for him. And

541
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Speaker 1: and I give him credit for that, but I'm not

542
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Speaker 1: so sure I want to see him coach with thirty

543
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Speaker 1: four defense. He's a four three guy. If you haven't

544
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Speaker 1: got to go to the fourth three, to the fourth three,

545
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Speaker 1: um and then you Sometimes the coach has to adjust

546
00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:07,879
Speaker 1: to the players absolutely. And here's the thing. When you

547
00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:11,359
Speaker 1: take over a team, not every player is bad, all right,

548
00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:13,520
Speaker 1: And when you take over an organization, not everybody in

549
00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:17,480
Speaker 1: the organization is bad. So throwing everybody out, I've seen

550
00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:20,000
Speaker 1: people do that. That's an ego thing. That's not the

551
00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:21,840
Speaker 1: right way to do it. Like the Raiders have been

552
00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:23,840
Speaker 1: doing that a little bit over the last year in

553
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Speaker 1: terms of getting rid of players. The first conversation, here's

554
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Speaker 1: the thing with grutency. He worked here one spring and

555
00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:31,560
Speaker 1: I said to him on day said John, did you

556
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Speaker 1: have a hundred man roster when you coached? You love

557
00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:39,439
Speaker 1: everybody and then you fire on the borrow. Okay, Greg's

558
00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:41,760
Speaker 1: been saying that for fifteen years now, Here's one I

559
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Speaker 1: haven't said. Was his response, He had none. So he's

560
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Speaker 1: no longer on your list of sources. Yeah, I want

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Speaker 1: to see that he's he was never a source. He

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Speaker 1: was never I want to say the guys that that Charlie,

563
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Speaker 1: that we're on the source list, that they fell out, Like,

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Speaker 1: how long is this list? Is a hundreds and hundreds

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Speaker 1: of executives and agents and people throughout the league. Who's

566
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Speaker 1: on the dead list. Let's dig into that. Hey, they're

567
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:10,520
Speaker 1: they're going or not anymore? So we don't want to exist.

568
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:12,919
Speaker 1: And if we asked something like that again, we might

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Speaker 1: be on the debt. No, you're you're over on this

570
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:18,520
Speaker 1: list over here, So anyway you're you're you're on the

571
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Speaker 1: good list. God got to be on the right list

572
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Speaker 1: of Charlie. By the way, Charlie, as you're hearing right now,

573
00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:28,000
Speaker 1: everyone the listeners, straight shooter, the straightest shooter in the game.

574
00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:30,200
Speaker 1: Listen to what he has to say. And he's all

575
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:33,920
Speaker 1: over NFL Network right now. All over it, cast and

576
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:36,199
Speaker 1: we're going over to the boardroom next to Okay, oh

577
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Speaker 1: my god, Ian w we hit you on in between

578
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:41,200
Speaker 1: quarters here, I know, and we we really appreciate. We

579
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Speaker 1: know you're a busy man. Check out Charlie on NFL

580
00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:46,800
Speaker 1: Network fom on Twitter at Charlie Castle Castle Lee and

581
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:49,520
Speaker 1: that's l e y. He mixes it up, holling him

582
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Speaker 1: on Instagram. Castle has a strong Instagram game and could

583
00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:57,480
Speaker 1: be teaching Taylor and other people some lessons so astutely

584
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Speaker 1: on the graam get your national news there. Alright, alright,

585
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:07,080
Speaker 1: there we go, Charlie Castley back to the grind, Thank

586
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Speaker 1: you sir, and off he goes and we continue on

587
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:19,639
Speaker 1: love Charlie castroin Teddy Bridgewater. He's sticking around boys, staying

588
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Speaker 1: with the Saints, uh deciding it's better to uh stay

589
00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:27,720
Speaker 1: as the understudy to a forty year old Drew Brees

590
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:31,359
Speaker 1: rather than perhaps go to the Dolphins, who, according to

591
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:35,719
Speaker 1: NFL Networks, Jane Slater had a bigger offer uh than

592
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 1: with the Saints. We're willing to give him, but still

593
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Speaker 1: he decided to stay with the team. Mark Uh in

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Speaker 1: New Orleans. That's in a Super Bowl window uh, and

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Speaker 1: I guess Mark, and we've been talking about this for

596
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 1: a long time. It didn't help Teddy that the timing

597
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:51,800
Speaker 1: was terrible when he finally at the free agent as

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Speaker 1: a healthy quarterback. No, I thought, you know, Charlie mentioned

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Speaker 1: what he thought were some of the more interesting decisions

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Speaker 1: and free agent transaccdent. This was one to me because

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Speaker 1: you don't often see a quarterback, uh, you know, put

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Speaker 1: off the idea of becoming a starter somewhere that it

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00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:09,040
Speaker 1: sounds like they still want to release Ryan Tannehill. You're

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Speaker 1: stepping into a starting role under a new coach um,

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Speaker 1: and you go back to what maybe career wise, if

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Speaker 1: if Drew Brees has one more season, let's say, then

607
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:22,040
Speaker 1: you'd step in next season on a much a team

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Speaker 1: with a much stronger base, a stronger coaching staff from

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Speaker 1: what we know today, and a better chance to step

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Speaker 1: into like a consistent spot. So I don't hate the

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Speaker 1: decision for Teddy Bridgewater. I just find it a bit

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Speaker 1: unusual to step away from more money and a chance

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Speaker 1: to start. Well, I want to see the money, they're not.

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Speaker 1: None of the money's out. Well, how about the chance

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Speaker 1: to start as an NFL quarterback? Don't with that. You

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Speaker 1: don't think that matters. I'm I'm guessing it doesn't. I don't.

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Speaker 1: I think he's getting a backup contract in either place.

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Speaker 1: When they don't show you the money at first, it's

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Speaker 1: because it's not a very good contract, because no one's

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Speaker 1: proud of it. The agent is not proud of it.

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Speaker 1: They're not trying to use it for advertising. If I

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Speaker 1: have to guess, I would guess he's getting paid to

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Speaker 1: be a backup in New Orleans, and he was gonna

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Speaker 1: get paid to be a backup, but a little more

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Speaker 1: in in Miami. Maybe that's five million from the Saints,

626
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Speaker 1: and it would have been six or seven from Miami

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Speaker 1: if it's anywhere close, and you had nothing close to

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Speaker 1: a guarantee or even a likelihood of starting in Miami.

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Speaker 1: I mean, New Orleans is a no brainer. It's a

630
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Speaker 1: great decision, a calculated risk with foresight to stay with

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Speaker 1: Sean Payton, to stay with the talent that they have

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Speaker 1: on that offense, especially the offensive line. Can anyone name

633
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Speaker 1: more than one Miami Dolphins offensive lineman right now? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's like you're going you would be going to a troubled,

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Speaker 1: potentially organization. You're a sacrificial lamb in Miami. The only

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Speaker 1: thing I would say about Teddy Bridgewater is that you're

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Speaker 1: definitely one of those quarterbacks that needs to put tape

638
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:47,120
Speaker 1: out there sooner than later. You're gonna wait two more

639
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:49,880
Speaker 1: years of what maybe taking fifteen snaps over the next

640
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:52,720
Speaker 1: two years. And he's twenty six years old. I mean,

641
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:54,880
Speaker 1: he's not a He's not like the old guy. He

642
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,280
Speaker 1: fetched the third round pick. The Jets signed him to

643
00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:00,479
Speaker 1: the bargain basement deal last year and then moved him

644
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:03,560
Speaker 1: flipped him to the Saints, uh for a third round pick.

645
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:07,680
Speaker 1: I guess I'm still surprised that his value remains depressed.

646
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 1: It didn't help again that the market was small, but

647
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 1: and I think that was the main thing. Yeah, I mean,

648
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 1: it's just a guy that has had a star cross

649
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:18,000
Speaker 1: career both physically. Now he has a chance maybe to

650
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 1: hit the market and be ready to go. And again

651
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:23,560
Speaker 1: he's he decides, and I agree with West ultimately not

652
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:25,840
Speaker 1: a bad decision because who knows how much longer Drew

653
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:29,120
Speaker 1: Brees is there or it could be a place for

654
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 1: three more years and he this contract comes and goes

655
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:34,000
Speaker 1: and he hasn't done anything but here here's my thing.

656
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:36,480
Speaker 1: If any team wanted him to be a starting quarterback,

657
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:38,760
Speaker 1: he would be on that team. But no teams did.

658
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 1: I mean from everything we're hearing that he was gonna

659
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 1: get a chance to compete to start, possibly with two

660
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:50,280
Speaker 1: other people, and he was getting a backup contract. That

661
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 1: is not that is not necessarily uh saying hey we

662
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:56,560
Speaker 1: want you to start, Like, hey, we're gonna pay you

663
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 1: even fifteen million dollars, eighteen million dollars. I think if

664
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Speaker 1: he had that offer, would have taken it. And that's fine,

665
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:03,239
Speaker 1: and and now he's smart. Well, no, I don't want

666
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 1: to be labor it. But I guess the one thing

667
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:07,120
Speaker 1: for me is, like we're talking about the mentality of

668
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:10,320
Speaker 1: an NFL quarterback. It's not just simply about money. What

669
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 1: you are also telling people, I'd rather be a backup

670
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:16,240
Speaker 1: than compete for a starting job in the NFL. I

671
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:19,080
Speaker 1: don't care what team it is, like you had quarterbacks,

672
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:24,280
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks with quarterbacks without options typically wind up going

673
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:27,600
Speaker 1: to bad teams. But a lot of people are miserable

674
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 1: in miserable situations, and Miami certainly looks like manager at IBM.

675
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 1: This is a people to find their happiness in happy situations.

676
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 1: That sounds it sounds like they're interested in Tyrod Taylor.

677
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 1: I just have the feeling that they want to draft

678
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 1: someone that it was at best going to be a

679
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:47,400
Speaker 1: situation like the Jets, where very well they might end

680
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:49,719
Speaker 1: up drafting a guy in the top five. They might

681
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:53,120
Speaker 1: move up to take one, and you're battling against another veteran,

682
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:56,080
Speaker 1: and the risk of that happening I think would be

683
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:58,360
Speaker 1: too much to to leave New Orleans for Let's move on,

684
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:00,600
Speaker 1: Honey Badger has a new home. He's on his third

685
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:03,400
Speaker 1: team now because he agrees to a three year, forty

686
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 1: two million dollar contract UH with the Kansas City Chiefs

687
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:12,959
Speaker 1: before West free agency window opened. UH, he tweeted out

688
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 1: the money is great, but rings are better. Well, he

689
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 1: just went to a team that a lot of people

690
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:23,000
Speaker 1: installs the AFC favorite good fit. I think it's a

691
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:26,680
Speaker 1: very good fit for a secondary that, for parts of

692
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:28,600
Speaker 1: the season last year was I thought the worst in

693
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:31,680
Speaker 1: the NFL. And I don't think they can count on

694
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 1: Eric Berry to ever be close to what Eric Berry

695
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:36,640
Speaker 1: was in the past, and now he looks like he

696
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 1: might be a candidate for release. Tyrann Matthew was out

697
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 1: of a position on a few plays last year with

698
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:45,000
Speaker 1: some miscommunication, but I thought physically he was back to

699
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:47,400
Speaker 1: almost where he was before the second of his A

700
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:49,400
Speaker 1: c L injuries. He's one of the big winners in

701
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:53,160
Speaker 1: free agency. I think Houston was. It sounds like they

702
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 1: were in on Matthew to the very end that that

703
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:59,120
Speaker 1: that his price was, you know, ten eleven million dollars

704
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:01,920
Speaker 1: from Houston, and you know per season didn't take it

705
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:05,480
Speaker 1: right away. Once the Land and Collins contract drop. Ian

706
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 1: Rappaport believes the price for Matthew went up and then

707
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:11,760
Speaker 1: these two teams are bidding against each other in Houston

708
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:14,759
Speaker 1: was was pretty disappointed that they ended up losing him.

709
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:17,440
Speaker 1: He gets fourteen a year just three years after he

710
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:19,400
Speaker 1: tears his A c L for a second time. Like

711
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:22,719
Speaker 1: he is a great example of a prove it contract

712
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:25,920
Speaker 1: working out absolutely perfect for him. I don't think the

713
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 1: Texans necessarily came that close to the final offer. They

714
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 1: talked about it being like nine point five to ten

715
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:33,360
Speaker 1: million per year as a backup offer and a fallback.

716
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 1: The Texans go and get to Sean Gibson who was

717
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 1: let go by the Jaguars, but he will I guess

718
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:43,720
Speaker 1: helped to alleviate some of the sting of losing Honey Badger.

719
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:46,880
Speaker 1: But yes, it's it's would not be surprised if the

720
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 1: Texans are very disappointed right now how this all turned out.

721
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 1: They also signed Bradley Roby at cornerback. Yeah, they mean

722
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:56,440
Speaker 1: they've They've essentially got a brand new secondary so Gibson.

723
00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 1: It's like everyone who needs a safety can get one

724
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:01,239
Speaker 1: this offseason. Gibson is a a cheap and night like

725
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:04,280
Speaker 1: there's more starters available at safety than any other position. Roby,

726
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:06,719
Speaker 1: to me, was a great signing, very similar to the

727
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 1: Tyrone Matthew signing from a year ago, where you're getting

728
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:11,239
Speaker 1: a guy kind of at his value low, but if

729
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:13,920
Speaker 1: you want to keep him, it's tricky. Like the Matthew

730
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:15,839
Speaker 1: thing worked out for the Texans and that you got

731
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:19,120
Speaker 1: him for a year, but ultimately they weren't aggressive enough

732
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 1: and and they only got that one year out of him.

733
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Speaker 1: You could see that happening with with Roby too, because

734
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 1: he's that kind of talent. Uh. Let's move on to

735
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 1: the Broncos. They're making moves. Juan James and Kareem Jackson

736
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 1: both join joined the Fray greg John Elway spending some money.

737
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:38,440
Speaker 1: Your thoughts. I mean, I kept seeing Juwan James is

738
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:41,360
Speaker 1: now the highest paid right tackle in in the league,

739
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:43,320
Speaker 1: you know, by a good amount, which is something we

740
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:44,960
Speaker 1: we talked about a couple of weeks ago on this

741
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:47,239
Speaker 1: podcast that that's gonna happen because I think people see

742
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:50,000
Speaker 1: him and they think he's a slightly above average starter

743
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 1: and he's available. He might not be the highest paid

744
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 1: rat tackle because I have a feeling Trent Brown's gonna

745
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:57,319
Speaker 1: play right tackle for the Raiders. It sounds like he'll

746
00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:59,440
Speaker 1: be paid even more. But that is just a ton

747
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:01,439
Speaker 1: of money at a position. They've spent tons and tons

748
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:03,319
Speaker 1: and tons of money on their offensive line and none

749
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:05,319
Speaker 1: of it has worked. So I don't know. I don't

750
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 1: know why I have faith that it's going to work.

751
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 1: Now they have something for him, because there were trade

752
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:13,440
Speaker 1: rumors bubbling up a year ago about the Broncos chasing

753
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:16,440
Speaker 1: after James. Well his he had one of the assistants

754
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 1: there was was with him in Miami. The assistant offensive

755
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:22,279
Speaker 1: line coach was with him in Miami for three years,

756
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 1: and I guess was a big fan. They say one

757
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:26,759
Speaker 1: of the rules for being a general manager at free

758
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:30,440
Speaker 1: agency time is don't go sign a player just because

759
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 1: he had the best game of the year against you.

760
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 1: Kareem Jackson against the Broncos last year had the best

761
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:38,800
Speaker 1: game I saw by any cornerback in the league, and

762
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:41,319
Speaker 1: one of the best tackling and hitting games I've ever

763
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:44,719
Speaker 1: seen by a cornerman. Talking up that game like watch it,

764
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 1: watch it on game pass. It is one of the

765
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 1: best cornerback games I've ever seen. He just would the

766
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:53,520
Speaker 1: entire game on Broncos receivers, tight ends, what have you.

767
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:56,320
Speaker 1: The Raiders they're kind of a weird just I know,

768
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:57,719
Speaker 1: we don't want to the labor, but they're kind of

769
00:36:57,760 --> 00:36:59,359
Speaker 1: They remind me of the Raiders where they just keep

770
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:01,319
Speaker 1: like changing their plan every year. You trade to keep

771
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:03,399
Speaker 1: to leave in theory because he cost too much money,

772
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 1: and then you signed Cream Jackson a year later for

773
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 1: as much or more money. The Raiders keep on spending money.

774
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:13,880
Speaker 1: The Rams decided they didn't want to pay LaMarcus Joiner anymore.

775
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:16,880
Speaker 1: They let him test the market, and Oakland swoops in

776
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 1: and gives the Safety a four year, forty two million

777
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 1: dollar deal. We like this one well. I think it

778
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:27,919
Speaker 1: adds speed to a secondary that desperately needed it after

779
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 1: playing guys like Reggie Nelson and Leon Hall and Karl

780
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:34,239
Speaker 1: Joseph at safety the last few years. I mean Leon

781
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:36,320
Speaker 1: Hall and Reggie Nelson both in their mid thirties. So

782
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 1: getting the young legs back there, I think that's a

783
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:40,440
Speaker 1: good signing. They are one of the teams that is

784
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 1: not going after major pass rushing help and they're just

785
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:44,440
Speaker 1: sitting in the draft where they can do that. But

786
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 1: what do they have thirteen sacks last year or something

787
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 1: like an astonishing league low that was like vastly behind

788
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:53,920
Speaker 1: number team number thirty one. I mean, how about LaMarcus Joiner.

789
00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:57,399
Speaker 1: I mean, the only real memorable moment, or at least

790
00:37:57,480 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 1: one of the only ones from Hard Knocks is when

791
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:01,759
Speaker 1: he walked in and said he'd tell Jeff Fisher he'd

792
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:04,439
Speaker 1: go work at Walmart if he uh, if he didn't

793
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:06,320
Speaker 1: get put in a better position. You remember that, he

794
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:08,200
Speaker 1: was like, I'll work at Walmart. It's fine, Like he

795
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:10,399
Speaker 1: was ready to retire now here. I think he was lying,

796
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:13,960
Speaker 1: he doesn't need to worry. He go bio bio Walmart.

797
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:17,360
Speaker 1: Right now, that's the shortest safety tandem maybe in NFL history,

798
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:19,880
Speaker 1: And he's five eight and Karl Joseph's went five Night,

799
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:22,719
Speaker 1: five nine and just throw some jump balls up there

800
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:26,239
Speaker 1: on the old Raiders. Hey, Mark, the Colts had more

801
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:29,720
Speaker 1: money than anyone, but they're not spending a lot. Maybe

802
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:31,960
Speaker 1: that's Chris Ballard, that's his move. He doesn't want to

803
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 1: invest heavily in free agency, and that's fine. We won't

804
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 1: judge him. He did make a move though, on Tuesday, though,

805
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 1: agreeing to terms with Devin Funches, formerly of the Panthers,

806
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:45,880
Speaker 1: a one year deal max value of thirteen million. I

807
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:47,960
Speaker 1: don't know what do you think about this one? This

808
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:49,560
Speaker 1: one kind of threw me a little bit. I don't

809
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 1: think it's a I don't think it solves all their issues.

810
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:54,919
Speaker 1: And but for me, the one thing about I'm seeing

811
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:57,319
Speaker 1: it out there that that it does solve all their issues, well,

812
00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:00,279
Speaker 1: then they're they're great. But Chris Ballard like said it

813
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:02,840
Speaker 1: over and over at the Combine, like, and it was

814
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 1: in regards to Levan Bell or Antonio Brennan's like, we're

815
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 1: not going to chase after people that don't fit what

816
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 1: we're doing here. And and then it's sort of says like, well,

817
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 1: obviously the cults have all this cat money, so they're

818
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 1: gonna surprise us and go make all these signings and

819
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:19,080
Speaker 1: they've done none of that. So maybe they'll be one

820
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:21,759
Speaker 1: of the smarter teams where now that all the headlines

821
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:25,080
Speaker 1: die down and people chill out, they start adding Chris

822
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:29,320
Speaker 1: Ballard type pieces that are different. Has financial started technically

823
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:31,400
Speaker 1: for you know, for for what it's worth. So they

824
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:33,319
Speaker 1: might end up being very active. But you're right, they're

825
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:35,760
Speaker 1: going to be that team that kind of waits for bargains.

826
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 1: I don't know if I like that. If I were

827
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 1: a Cults fan, I would like that. Ten million dollars

828
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:40,720
Speaker 1: is not a bargain, but it's a one year country,

829
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 1: it's a ten million based salary, gives them some physicality,

830
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:46,720
Speaker 1: and I kind of try. I trust their coaching staff

831
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 1: to figure it out. Well, this is all about timing.

832
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:51,279
Speaker 1: He had a horrible last year last year, did not

833
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:53,480
Speaker 1: catch the ball well, did not win at the catchpoint

834
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:56,719
Speaker 1: well for a guy who's six thirty. But I thought

835
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:58,719
Speaker 1: he played really well the year before two thousand seven.

836
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:00,200
Speaker 1: Team was a good year. So if he had made

837
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:01,920
Speaker 1: free agency the year before, I think he would have

838
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:04,040
Speaker 1: cashed it. There was a time when Ron Rivera called him.

839
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:06,840
Speaker 1: Other coaches too that he was the most promising player

840
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:09,400
Speaker 1: on the entire Panthers offense. It just feels like a

841
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:13,360
Speaker 1: long time ago. The Bills made a play for Antonio Brown,

842
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:17,239
Speaker 1: UH kicked the tires. Maybe deal almost got done, maybe

843
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:21,239
Speaker 1: it didn't, but they were undaunted either way, and they've

844
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:24,759
Speaker 1: been very busy. The Buffalo Bills UH signed UH slot

845
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:27,880
Speaker 1: receiver Cole Beasley. They also got John Brown, They got

846
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 1: Smokey to add to UH the weapons around Josh Allen,

847
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:33,759
Speaker 1: the second year quarterback, and then they go out and

848
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:35,760
Speaker 1: get Mitch Morris, who was one of the top centers

849
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:38,560
Speaker 1: on the market. Tyler Croft also added to the mix.

850
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:43,760
Speaker 1: That's a lot. And don't forget Greg your boy, Frank Gore,

851
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:49,640
Speaker 1: oh so tie and Secky tie and Secky swing tackles

852
00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 1: in the NFL. Let's get to Gore in a second,

853
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 1: but let's start. We had the receivers in there too, right,

854
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:57,320
Speaker 1: I mean John Brown, John jo They have been This

855
00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 1: is a team that is making a move. They're trying

856
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:04,359
Speaker 1: to get respectable and just like down in the meadow Lands,

857
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 1: they they're trying to build around Donald Alan deserves a

858
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 1: shot too to have some weapons around him. Mark and

859
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:11,719
Speaker 1: and now they do. I mean the Bills needed everything

860
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:15,640
Speaker 1: on office, like everything, and so you have to be aggressive.

861
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:17,759
Speaker 1: This is one team that, yeah, you can say like,

862
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:20,480
Speaker 1: let's not you know, go crazy and free agency and

863
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 1: build the way the Patriots do, but you almost have

864
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:24,799
Speaker 1: to wonder who would still be there a year from

865
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:27,239
Speaker 1: now at that offense didn't progress and you've got a

866
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:30,880
Speaker 1: second year quarterback. I like the John Brown signing um

867
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:33,440
Speaker 1: Cole Beasley to me, I think these guys made some

868
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:35,920
Speaker 1: cash here, but they needed everything. They haven't. They're not

869
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:38,200
Speaker 1: in a great position to to wait for the draft

870
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:41,279
Speaker 1: at all. They needed like NFL receivers, and so John

871
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:44,839
Speaker 1: Brown's a risk. But if anyone can go run down,

872
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:48,960
Speaker 1: I mean, just because of his health and his injuries,

873
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:51,400
Speaker 1: yeah absolutely. I mean he's he's been in the NFL

874
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:53,600
Speaker 1: what five six years, He's been productive two of them.

875
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:55,879
Speaker 1: So I think he's a risk, but it's a risk

876
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:58,520
Speaker 1: we're taking him. If anyone can, you know, track down

877
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:01,759
Speaker 1: a ninety seven yard throw, Josh Allen, it's Johnny Brown.

878
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:04,920
Speaker 1: I like the I like the idea of that combination,

879
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:06,799
Speaker 1: and he did enough. Essentially the way it worked out

880
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:10,360
Speaker 1: for Brown, he had the sickle cell issue in Arizona

881
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:12,000
Speaker 1: and that and then he couldn't stay in the field,

882
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:15,960
Speaker 1: wasn't effective, and then after eight weeks or so, he

883
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 1: was having a Pro Bowl type season with Joe Flacco

884
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:22,440
Speaker 1: last year, and that all wiped away once Lamar Jackson

885
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 1: took over. But I guess the Bills and I imagine

886
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:27,839
Speaker 1: other teams saw enough alright, So he stayed healthy all year,

887
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:29,920
Speaker 1: and he showed with a quarterback that could sling it,

888
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:32,480
Speaker 1: he could put up numbers were sold. I like the

889
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 1: Bill signing. There nothing they do really makes off season news.

890
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 1: So last year when their GM, Billy not Brandon Bean said, look,

891
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 1: we gotta take a one year penalty on the cap.

892
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:43,560
Speaker 1: We got a mortgage our future. We were not going

893
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 1: to be that competitive this year. We're rebuilding. They're out

894
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:49,120
Speaker 1: of they're out of cap jail now and they're they're

895
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 1: making a better team. I I kind of like what

896
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:52,600
Speaker 1: the Bills are doing. And I don't I don't think

897
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:56,120
Speaker 1: these are major names splashes people. Cole Beasley isn't gonna

898
00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:59,400
Speaker 1: move uh units, but he's really friendly for the quarterback.

899
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:02,239
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, now that's good, but but it does And

900
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:04,440
Speaker 1: I saw there was an article I think on s

901
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:08,880
Speaker 1: I today talking about where players like to go. It

902
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:11,320
Speaker 1: is money, and these guys are all coming to Buffalo

903
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:14,279
Speaker 1: because Buffalo is paying him. That Tyler Croft is ken

904
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 1: wherever you're paying him whatever they paid him, which was

905
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:18,840
Speaker 1: a lot eighteen million dollars. That was one of the

906
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:20,759
Speaker 1: more surprising ones. I mean, Mitch Morris right now is

907
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:22,920
Speaker 1: I think just about the highest paid center in the

908
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:25,880
Speaker 1: league for a very average you know center. So like,

909
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:28,680
Speaker 1: that's generally not how you get ahead long term, and

910
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:31,320
Speaker 1: a lot of those type of offensive line contracts have

911
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:34,320
Speaker 1: not necessarily worked out unless you have the the system

912
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 1: and the players around around them to make well. What's

913
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 1: also expensive is Josh Allen getting taken out in week

914
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:42,320
Speaker 1: four right up the middle of the line because you

915
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:44,520
Speaker 1: have no center the way they were last year. Uh

916
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 1: and Greg, Yes, let's touch down the inconvenient career finale.

917
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:52,160
Speaker 1: Well it might not. We've we've thought that it would

918
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:53,960
Speaker 1: be a finale for the last couple of years. And

919
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:56,440
Speaker 1: he keeps going and he needs about six hundred more

920
00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:58,279
Speaker 1: yards I think to go up to number three is

921
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 1: it all times? So that's gonna be to fi Lashawn

922
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 1: McCoy's backup. I hate him being in Buffalo because the

923
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 1: Miami was such a perfect last spot. Do you want

924
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 1: him to be with a contender but he's still playing

925
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 1: pretty well? Say he's a thirty four year old running

926
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 1: back who's still getting signed before free agency even started.

927
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:20,200
Speaker 1: St to flip side, Greg and I would never judge

928
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:22,320
Speaker 1: a man for getting an offer and jumping at it,

929
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:24,640
Speaker 1: But I will question a little bit the idea of

930
00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 1: jumping at the first offer he got as opposed to

931
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:30,279
Speaker 1: maybe finding a place that could use him and he'd

932
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:32,880
Speaker 1: still get some carries, but also maybe not in the

933
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:35,560
Speaker 1: season with a rebuilding and his career with a rebuilding team.

934
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:37,799
Speaker 1: I mean he's had the same agent his whole career. Uh,

935
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:40,480
Speaker 1: that's not true actually, but Drew rosen Uss is now.

936
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:42,560
Speaker 1: I think he had a sense of the market. He's

937
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:44,000
Speaker 1: at the stage of his career. You have to take

938
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:46,800
Speaker 1: the offer that you get. There's no guarantee that that

939
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:49,200
Speaker 1: he was going to get multiple offers. I'm sure. I'm

940
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:51,360
Speaker 1: sure he from the sound of it, he wanted to

941
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:53,600
Speaker 1: go back to the forty niners. That wasn't happening, and

942
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:55,919
Speaker 1: you take a weight and get uh. Since we brought

943
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:57,719
Speaker 1: up another guy from the U let's shot. I mean

944
00:44:57,760 --> 00:44:59,920
Speaker 1: that's they have three guys over thirty in their backfield,

945
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:03,319
Speaker 1: Ivory McCoy and so I was still gonna be there.

946
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:06,719
Speaker 1: Probably they cut Chris Ivory since we brought up Mitch Morris,

947
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:08,560
Speaker 1: Let's talk about the other big center on the market.

948
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:12,080
Speaker 1: The Panthers agreed to terms with Matt Pardis, formerly of

949
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:15,440
Speaker 1: the Denver Broncos, a three year, twenty seven million dollar

950
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 1: packed This one does the Jets fans stings a little

951
00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:20,839
Speaker 1: bit because I I really wanted to uh New York

952
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:24,279
Speaker 1: to grab Paradis and Carolina made the move though. They

953
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:27,120
Speaker 1: got it done. So you add a very steady player

954
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 1: to the center of her line. He's coming off a

955
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:32,520
Speaker 1: serious leg injury that ended last and his UH two

956
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:35,480
Speaker 1: thousand eighteen season prematurely, but he's said to be ready

957
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:39,000
Speaker 1: uh to play by June. So that's a nice pickup

958
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:43,320
Speaker 1: by the Panthers. They had really seen an exodus of

959
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:46,000
Speaker 1: players over the past two months on that roster. It's

960
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:47,880
Speaker 1: nice to see them add one for once, and they

961
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:50,480
Speaker 1: had some work to do on this offensive line. They

962
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:52,439
Speaker 1: still have work to do it left tackle, so maybe

963
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:54,200
Speaker 1: they'll address that in the draft. It was weird how

964
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:57,480
Speaker 1: dismissive John Elway was about Matt Paradis when asked. It's

965
00:45:57,520 --> 00:46:00,879
Speaker 1: like the one good offensive market they've they've found over

966
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:03,320
Speaker 1: the last few years, and he just like seemed totally

967
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:07,560
Speaker 1: uninterested in resigning him. And maybe it's the broken leg. Yeah.

968
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:13,480
Speaker 1: Mark Brown's news Sheldon Richardson, an old New York Jets

969
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:17,400
Speaker 1: bounced around looking for another multi year contract. Well he

970
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:19,839
Speaker 1: got it, a three year, thirty six million dollar deal,

971
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:24,520
Speaker 1: uh with the Browns. The Browns who also got Olivier

972
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:27,120
Speaker 1: Vernon in the building via trade last week. Of course,

973
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:29,440
Speaker 1: Myles Garrett on that line. We touched on it with Charlie.

974
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:32,759
Speaker 1: You like this one? I do? I mean, I don't

975
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:36,600
Speaker 1: think they're spending completely unwisely in free agency. And you

976
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:40,960
Speaker 1: have Vernon, Garrett, Sheldon Richardson and Larry Ogunjobi who you

977
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 1: put them along with Gerard Avery. That's a pass rush.

978
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:46,440
Speaker 1: And they they still struggled last year. I think they

979
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:49,120
Speaker 1: were twenty one or twenty two in sacks. There was

980
00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:51,080
Speaker 1: a lot of pressure. There were moments where I thought

981
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:53,520
Speaker 1: Cleveland could have ended a couple of close games that

982
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:55,520
Speaker 1: they were in that they lost because they couldn't quite

983
00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:57,800
Speaker 1: get to the quarterback. This will help with that. I

984
00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:00,720
Speaker 1: think that Richardson and up is an upgrade over Trevin Coley.

985
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:04,080
Speaker 1: And you know he I know he's been he's bounced around.

986
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:07,759
Speaker 1: I guess there we've heard enough about him to know

987
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:09,959
Speaker 1: that there's stuff going on behind the scenes at times.

988
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 1: But I don't have a problem with this signing for Cleveland.

989
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:14,840
Speaker 1: It kind of surprised me, just because it's hard to

990
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:17,440
Speaker 1: know who's on anyone's radar. But it's not someone I

991
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:20,040
Speaker 1: ever would have imagined in a Browns uniform. I guess

992
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:21,759
Speaker 1: if you get two good years out of him, it's

993
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:24,080
Speaker 1: a win. There aren't many better defensive lines in the

994
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 1: NFL on paper, at least. I mean, we have to

995
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:29,879
Speaker 1: see how the new defensive coordinator uh uses Richardson and Vernon.

996
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:33,520
Speaker 1: But Larry Ogunjobi had a really good Yes, you're right,

997
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:35,920
Speaker 1: that's one of the best defensive lines in the NFL.

998
00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:38,799
Speaker 1: Richardson had been on this these one year deals because

999
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:42,360
Speaker 1: they team style was how to keep motivated. He started

1000
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:45,239
Speaker 1: off like an All Pro, definitely faded pretty hard by

1001
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:47,080
Speaker 1: the end of the year. So there's a concern how

1002
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:49,399
Speaker 1: many snaps do you use him? But I think it's fine.

1003
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:51,440
Speaker 1: Just use him for well, and they can use the draft.

1004
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:53,600
Speaker 1: They can go with their first they have ten picks

1005
00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:56,759
Speaker 1: again and you don't have to reach for someone or

1006
00:47:56,760 --> 00:47:58,719
Speaker 1: a certain position. It's a two year deal. It's to

1007
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:00,920
Speaker 1: anyone guaranteed in the two years, so it's I mean,

1008
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:03,080
Speaker 1: it is a three year deal, but like all these deals,

1009
00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:04,800
Speaker 1: it's really a two year deal that they're making it.

1010
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:07,319
Speaker 1: And Sheldon Richardson often does not stick around for more

1011
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:10,239
Speaker 1: than one so well, and what ended his jet career

1012
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:12,480
Speaker 1: was off the field issues and being a knucklehead, and

1013
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:14,359
Speaker 1: we haven't really heard anything in the last couple of years,

1014
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:17,120
Speaker 1: so maybe he has a straightened himself out, in which

1015
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:19,520
Speaker 1: case that feels like a great signing. The Titans make

1016
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:23,160
Speaker 1: a move uh to fortify their interior line. Roger Staffold

1017
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:27,239
Speaker 1: leaves the Rams and agrees to terms with the Tytoons

1018
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:29,840
Speaker 1: on a four year, forty four million dollar deal and

1019
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:34,000
Speaker 1: includes twenty two and a half million guaranteed. Uh. Where

1020
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:36,040
Speaker 1: did he fall? Greg? He was pretty high in the

1021
00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:39,440
Speaker 1: top one oh one and one of the top ranked aligneman.

1022
00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:42,080
Speaker 1: I I assume I love what the Titans are doing.

1023
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:45,719
Speaker 1: Adam Humphreys in the slot Roger Staffold two positions of

1024
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:50,040
Speaker 1: need and that offensive line has been too inconsistent. Roger Saffold.

1025
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:54,279
Speaker 1: You know that Rams offensive line, especially earlyier in the year,

1026
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:57,279
Speaker 1: really paved some huge holds for Todd Gurley. I love

1027
00:48:57,360 --> 00:49:00,880
Speaker 1: this Compared to the other Guard signings, he seems like

1028
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:04,920
Speaker 1: a relative bargain, like guys who seemed much worse than him,

1029
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:07,800
Speaker 1: like Billy Turner or whatever getting almost as much you know,

1030
00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:10,720
Speaker 1: guaranteed money or Mitch More you know, you know, Saffold

1031
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:13,440
Speaker 1: seems like a very safe bet. Billy Turners contract has

1032
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:16,400
Speaker 1: like a retired lineman doing exercises in the room. Just

1033
00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:20,960
Speaker 1: same thing. Get ready to go back? Uh, let's move on? Hey? Uh?

1034
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:25,000
Speaker 1: Tell Suggs leaves the Ravens after a million years. Thomas

1035
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:29,640
Speaker 1: Davis also moving west. Fourteen years with the Panthers, he

1036
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:31,560
Speaker 1: signs a two year, twenty and a half million dollar

1037
00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:36,279
Speaker 1: deal with the Los Angeles Chargers. Uh. What's left in

1038
00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:39,000
Speaker 1: the tank of Thomas Davis West at this point in

1039
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:41,560
Speaker 1: his career. I think he lost a step last year

1040
00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:43,200
Speaker 1: but was still playing. I mean, he wasn't a guy

1041
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:45,880
Speaker 1: you had to hide. It's just that he's not. He

1042
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:48,520
Speaker 1: and Keithley weren't what they were five years ago. But

1043
00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:51,920
Speaker 1: it does make me wonder how different the charges defense

1044
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:54,759
Speaker 1: will be this year. Whereas last year, out of necessity,

1045
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:56,680
Speaker 1: they played so much dime defense and they pay a

1046
00:49:56,719 --> 00:49:58,839
Speaker 1: lot of safeties at linebacker. It looks like they're going

1047
00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:01,840
Speaker 1: more tradition all this year. I want to see like

1048
00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:05,280
Speaker 1: twenty million dollars for this is the most surprising contract

1049
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:06,920
Speaker 1: we've seen. I want to see that. It feels like

1050
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:10,359
Speaker 1: it's almost phony, Like, how could Thomas Davis be making

1051
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:12,440
Speaker 1: ten million dollars a year at this stage? I am,

1052
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:14,839
Speaker 1: I I kind of don't believe it. I suspect it's

1053
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:16,759
Speaker 1: more like a one year six or seven million dollar

1054
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:20,800
Speaker 1: and even that's a lot for a linebacker of that age.

1055
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:23,280
Speaker 1: I mean, the Davis family hopes it's not totally phonny.

1056
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:27,320
Speaker 1: There's also talked that they're they're going after Earl Thomas.

1057
00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:29,040
Speaker 1: I mean, he's like an NFL Man of the Year.

1058
00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:33,080
Speaker 1: You know, he's about as like well respected a guy

1059
00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 1: as there is in the NFL, and I think that

1060
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:41,719
Speaker 1: that certainly has some premium. But he all right, mark

1061
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:46,279
Speaker 1: your boy, mark Ingram, but dog Mark wouldn't see he's

1062
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:50,440
Speaker 1: been replaced the New Orleans. Davis Murray agrees to a

1063
00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:53,880
Speaker 1: four year, fourteen point four million dollar deal UH with

1064
00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:57,680
Speaker 1: the Saints, so he will join Alvin Kamara and your

1065
00:50:57,760 --> 00:51:02,440
Speaker 1: boy mark Ingram is moving on. Take us through how

1066
00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:05,359
Speaker 1: you feel personally. First, it's weird because both of those

1067
00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:07,200
Speaker 1: guys were on that USO trip I went to, and

1068
00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:08,960
Speaker 1: I remember we were in Germany towards the end of

1069
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:10,880
Speaker 1: the trip, and you know, you knew that Ingram was

1070
00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:13,600
Speaker 1: in a contract year in like and Tavius Murray likely

1071
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:16,440
Speaker 1: was in his final year with the Vikings, and everyone

1072
00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:18,520
Speaker 1: was eating dinner and kind of talking about how cool

1073
00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:22,040
Speaker 1: would be if like they were a duo backfield somewhere else.

1074
00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:24,920
Speaker 1: This is not how I thought mark Ingram would have

1075
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:28,680
Speaker 1: had this play out necessarily where his They became very

1076
00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:30,960
Speaker 1: good friends during it. They were super tight and one

1077
00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:36,000
Speaker 1: just takes the other's job. Inside story. Interesting seeing at

1078
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:41,440
Speaker 1: least three Saints teammates on Twitter begging mark Ingram to

1079
00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:43,279
Speaker 1: come back and saying how much he means to that

1080
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:46,440
Speaker 1: locker room, how much he means to their chemistry. Um,

1081
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:48,680
Speaker 1: he was certainly a well liked guy in or if

1082
00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:50,680
Speaker 1: you're with him, a guy honestly he is there is

1083
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:54,080
Speaker 1: even when with Alvin Kamaramin wanted to make initially always

1084
00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:56,000
Speaker 1: there some sort of rivalry here, and then they just

1085
00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:58,759
Speaker 1: did all their interviews together like he's loved and he

1086
00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:00,920
Speaker 1: is loved by those guy is and like you want

1087
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:03,800
Speaker 1: to keep him around. He's been there his entire career.

1088
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:08,000
Speaker 1: It sounded like he got offered something similar and thought

1089
00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:10,279
Speaker 1: and probably can do a little better. And so it

1090
00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:12,759
Speaker 1: came down to money. And Murray's really well liked and

1091
00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:14,759
Speaker 1: probably one of the more thoughtful. You know, he kind

1092
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:16,480
Speaker 1: of has a report he always wins, like the media

1093
00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:19,040
Speaker 1: Good Guy Award. He's you know, just known as a

1094
00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:21,920
Speaker 1: thoughtful guy. So it seems like it's a nice replacement

1095
00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:24,360
Speaker 1: if you're gonna ever play. All right, it's um about

1096
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:27,759
Speaker 1: a quarter after five Eastern time on a Tuesday as

1097
00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:30,600
Speaker 1: of right now, in this moment of recording. This is

1098
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:32,480
Speaker 1: the big the big names who are still out there,

1099
00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:42,440
Speaker 1: Levan bell, Earl Thomas Justin Houston, kJ Wright and Dominican

1100
00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:46,120
Speaker 1: Sue haven't heard much about him. Some quiet markets. Ziggy

1101
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:49,080
Speaker 1: ansa our old friend, La Sid's favorite player. Remember she

1102
00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:51,479
Speaker 1: banked on him leading the League of sax Ones cost

1103
00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:53,960
Speaker 1: her a Sandwich. Yes she needed Yeah, I think he

1104
00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:56,600
Speaker 1: had too that year. She's still super piste about that.

1105
00:52:57,400 --> 00:52:59,480
Speaker 1: Tevin Coleman feels like that. He you know, they're just

1106
00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:02,480
Speaker 1: waiting for for the levy On Bell signing signing. So

1107
00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:05,359
Speaker 1: those are some big names still out there. So while

1108
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:06,719
Speaker 1: there's been a ton of work and there will be

1109
00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:10,520
Speaker 1: a ton more UH signings to come, some big fish

1110
00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:12,520
Speaker 1: still out there in the sea. I mean levy On

1111
00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:16,080
Speaker 1: Bell is dropping his new album at midnight tonight as

1112
00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:20,000
Speaker 1: free agent in theory the day that free agency starts,

1113
00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:22,960
Speaker 1: and that's next level. Life's a gamble, you know, check

1114
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:25,879
Speaker 1: it out really or don't you don't have or don't.

1115
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:28,840
Speaker 1: But it's like the the the cover is him rolling

1116
00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:31,840
Speaker 1: some dice. It's got four aces. It's like if he

1117
00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:35,440
Speaker 1: can somehow sync up this album release and that's why

1118
00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:39,760
Speaker 1: he's waiting to sign on Wednesday, and it's all connected

1119
00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:43,480
Speaker 1: in some way. I just I love it. If not

1120
00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:45,960
Speaker 1: as a Jets man, if you told me I had

1121
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:49,680
Speaker 1: to listen to the entire levy on Bell album before

1122
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:51,759
Speaker 1: he went to the Jets, I don't know if he's

1123
00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:53,920
Speaker 1: on the Jet. I think Kevin Colden's my running back

1124
00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:55,960
Speaker 1: in a couple of months. Should we put a sandwich

1125
00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:59,319
Speaker 1: on Earl Thomas Landing spot, You'll do that. Let's let's

1126
00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:02,919
Speaker 1: do it. I'll just go with the field, which would

1127
00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:04,279
Speaker 1: be the cow not the field. I will go with

1128
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:08,840
Speaker 1: the favorite. I'm gonna go Niners because I think the

1129
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:11,080
Speaker 1: Cowboys might have already found a way to do this.

1130
00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:15,640
Speaker 1: Although maybe this whole safety markets crazy, but Niners. This

1131
00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:17,960
Speaker 1: one is completely out of left field, and I'll probably

1132
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:24,280
Speaker 1: be way off. The Bears are shedding salaries for for something,

1133
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:27,560
Speaker 1: They're clearing some room for something, and they lost their

1134
00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:30,640
Speaker 1: safety Adrian Amos, No, that's not gonna happen. So they

1135
00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:32,880
Speaker 1: they had been going off. They had There are a

1136
00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:36,120
Speaker 1: lot of people well a while ago, linking them to

1137
00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:38,440
Speaker 1: Levy on Bell too well. They also had one of

1138
00:54:38,560 --> 00:54:40,560
Speaker 1: the weirdest since they came up. We haven't had a

1139
00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:42,560
Speaker 1: chance to say it signings in free agency, which was

1140
00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:45,120
Speaker 1: Mike Davis for two years six million. I guess they're

1141
00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:47,399
Speaker 1: gonna trade or cut Jordan Howard, but I was really

1142
00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:50,239
Speaker 1: surprised Mike Davis got, you know, like first day free

1143
00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:52,800
Speaker 1: agent money. They signed Buster Screen. I'm going the Chargers.

1144
00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:56,000
Speaker 1: How about Gus Bradley gets his old guy back, all right.

1145
00:54:56,040 --> 00:54:59,760
Speaker 1: I'm also going Chargers, all right, so we got Cowboys, Chargers,

1146
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:04,440
Speaker 1: Sandwich on the line. One other name. It's been quiet

1147
00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:09,680
Speaker 1: the market West, Jared Cook, it has been you think

1148
00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:12,200
Speaker 1: would have a bigger market. And perhaps it's all being

1149
00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:15,799
Speaker 1: done cloak and dagger, but usually you hear. I agree.

1150
00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:18,440
Speaker 1: He's dropping an album too, and waiting just until a

1151
00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:20,840
Speaker 1: couple of hours from now to announce. It's like a

1152
00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:25,080
Speaker 1: Jimmy Buffett covers album. Very strange release, but he's hoping

1153
00:55:25,120 --> 00:55:29,960
Speaker 1: to move some units. All right, Nice work, guys. Tuesday,

1154
00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:34,680
Speaker 1: show in the books Tomorrow Wednesday. Another pot that is

1155
00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:39,360
Speaker 1: when the two thousand nineteen League year begins, so a

1156
00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:42,040
Speaker 1: lot of this stuff becomes official. You know, maybe some

1157
00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:46,880
Speaker 1: other snakes will walk out on handshake deals before before

1158
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:49,920
Speaker 1: that happens. But four pm Eastern is when all this

1159
00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:52,520
Speaker 1: stuff gets set in stone. And I assume the next

1160
00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:53,960
Speaker 1: time you hear from us will be able to talk

1161
00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:57,360
Speaker 1: about Levy on Bell and where he is. Free Agency

1162
00:55:57,480 --> 00:56:00,239
Speaker 1: opens at four pm Eastern and closes at five p m.

1163
00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:04,920
Speaker 1: Easter and we are on a beach by Friday. All right.

1164
00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:10,200
Speaker 1: That's it. Stand hands is signing off four quiet storm

1165
00:56:10,760 --> 00:56:14,200
Speaker 1: the mail man, the old Boss kept Brown behind the glass,

1166
00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:16,960
Speaker 1: and thank you to Charlie Castlely squeeze as I'm saying, say,

1167
00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:21,880
Speaker 1: I love that guy. All right until Wednesday