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Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast is a Mark Sessler fever dream.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast,

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Speaker 1: presented by Into It Quick Books, the official sponsor of

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Speaker 1: the NFL. My name is Dan hansis coming to you

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Speaker 1: from a city that is filled with heroes in bunkers.

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Speaker 1: Mark Sessler, Chris Westling and Greg Rostal. What is up, boys, Boys, Boys, Boys?

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Speaker 1: We are This is Bunker Cast three. The league year

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Speaker 1: has indeed started on time, or well, it hasn't officially

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Speaker 1: started yet. That will be Wednesday. But the legal tampering

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Speaker 1: period did kick off today, which led to an avalanche

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Speaker 1: of league activity signings, one blockbuster trade that will leave

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Speaker 1: people scratching their heads for the ages. Uh, so much

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Speaker 1: to talk about, and personally, I am happy in retrospect

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Speaker 1: that this played out the way that it did. Uh.

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Speaker 1: They could have pushed it back and nobody would have

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Speaker 1: killed them for it. And I know there are some

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Speaker 1: vocal critics online Mike Florio, Greg your old boss is

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Speaker 1: one of them, uh, positioning as one of the league's

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Speaker 1: great potential gaffs to go off as scheduled. But I

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Speaker 1: think this was the right move and it really gave

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Speaker 1: all of us, both in the industry and fans something

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Speaker 1: to do today and for the rest of the week.

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Speaker 1: And that's not a bad thing, and that's not a

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Speaker 1: small thing where we are in the world right now.

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Speaker 1: I think where I was a day ago was that

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Speaker 1: I did not want it to happen, just because I

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Speaker 1: just don't know how it would play out. But I'm

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Speaker 1: with you. I think now that it's underway, it's really

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Speaker 1: only two or three days of ultra chaos, and so

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Speaker 1: why not haven't happened now when even if it weren't happening.

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Speaker 1: No stores is um every everything is shuttered. You can't

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Speaker 1: go anywhere. It's a perfect day just to lounge out

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Speaker 1: and watch millionaires double down on their finances. Well, it's

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Speaker 1: also like a month. I mean, you can't go to

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Speaker 1: a restaurant in Los Angeles. We didn't mention that yesterday

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Speaker 1: that was um laid out by our mayor that there

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Speaker 1: there's no going to restaurants. It's very similar in a

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Speaker 1: lot of cities. And my kids and your kids, I know,

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Speaker 1: are out of school for a month. So it's not

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Speaker 1: like when this free agency period dies down in three

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Speaker 1: or four days, like everyone suddenly goes back to work.

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Speaker 1: I'm with you. The only thing that's weird to me

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Speaker 1: is people are signing these contracts into a world they're

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Speaker 1: not totally sure like what that world's gonna be. But

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Speaker 1: I don't I don't know when you would have ever

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Speaker 1: found out, you know what I mean, Like, who knows

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Speaker 1: if the like everyone's assuming the cap is gonna go up,

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Speaker 1: for instance, like like Skyrocket with these TV deals in

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Speaker 1: it's like, like, who knows if any of that's gonna happen.

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Speaker 1: I mean, no one can project what's coming forward, but

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Speaker 1: like a a massive global depression like seems quite possible.

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Speaker 1: Today was the worst day in the history of the

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Speaker 1: United States stock market. So it yeah, it is a

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Speaker 1: time of unprecedented uh uh, uncomfortableity across the world in

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Speaker 1: terms of the financial spectrum. Uh this is great depression

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Speaker 1: type anxiety to go with the Great Bug COVID nineteen.

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Speaker 1: Well to your original point, as far as everybody coming

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Speaker 1: out strongly on whether this should have happened today or not,

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Speaker 1: I find it to be very liberating that you don't

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Speaker 1: have to have a strong opinion on everything out there

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Speaker 1: one way or another. Like we let the people who

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Speaker 1: the government run this thing. Let them make the decisions.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. That seems like an okay stance to me.

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Speaker 1: All right, so let's get into it. There's no sense

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Speaker 1: messing around here because there's so much to get into it.

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Speaker 1: And like we said, this is going to be an

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Speaker 1: everyday occurrence. That's our goal here the Bunker cast. Um

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Speaker 1: I am in the throwback podcast garage. Greg. You are

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Speaker 1: in your home, Ricky Hollywood. How are you, by the way,

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Speaker 1: How you doing I'm doing good, doing good? How are

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Speaker 1: you guys? Everything? I feel like everything's okay. Um West,

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Speaker 1: You're in your abode with the twinkly lights mark you

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Speaker 1: of course in your area, UM hotel slash motel slash Airbnb.

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Speaker 1: And you are you seem to be You look exactly

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Speaker 1: the same. In fact, you're wearing the same exact outfit.

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Speaker 1: It's almost like yesterday to today never changed. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I've been working here. Greg. I'm a professional, and I

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Speaker 1: knew that if I, you know, if I were home,

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Speaker 1: But I will deal. I have another forty five days

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Speaker 1: to be as good of a father as you, Greg.

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Speaker 1: It should It should be stated that we had some

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Speaker 1: technical difficulties starting up the show. And this is of

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Speaker 1: no fault of Greg, because we are in a very

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Speaker 1: tough situation with kids and wives and small spaces living

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Speaker 1: here in Los Angeles. Greg is dealing with looking for

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Speaker 1: a quiet place in his home. Seemed like a shot

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Speaker 1: across your bow there, Greg from Mark that you are

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Speaker 1: not in a motel somewhere in the south Land. Your take, No,

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Speaker 1: we've all got We've got all got it easy. I mean,

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Speaker 1: props out to David Eally and Lakisha Jackson and Andy

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Speaker 1: Hagman and Adam My. It's like everyone, uh, everyone's doing

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Speaker 1: the jobs that we used to do when when these

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Speaker 1: haven't rather easy all of us and uh, I appreciate it. Wow,

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Speaker 1: what a classy way to defer and get out of

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Speaker 1: the answering that question. Greg, Um, all right, let's get

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Speaker 1: Haven't you been thinking that all day? Like they are

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Speaker 1: dying right now, like grinding the last two or three

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Speaker 1: That's what I've been Can I tell you I have

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Speaker 1: not thought of that once? Seven months pregnant, she's putting

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Speaker 1: in stepping lunches, she's doing all of that, Greg. It's

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Speaker 1: not that I'm not so far removed or I don't

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Speaker 1: have any care for my fellow colleagues, but I just

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Speaker 1: the list. That's all just a lot of cooking. I'm

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Speaker 1: then it's been it's been a lot of NFL network

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Speaker 1: on our Google hang out. But let's get into it.

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Speaker 1: Actually a good way to get into it, Ricky, uh

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Speaker 1: if if you, if you will, can we get a

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Speaker 1: off today? Affective immediately I, the old Juicer, can no

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Speaker 1: longer defend the actions of one William James Bill O'Brien,

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Speaker 1: thank Mr O'Brien for multiple a f C South titles

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Speaker 1: that won the Sandwich Props in recent years, but this

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Speaker 1: the Henry Hill and goodfellas, Now I gotta turn my

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Speaker 1: a It's a great way to set it up, West,

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Speaker 1: our time at NFL Media, where it was so one sided. Immediately,

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Speaker 1: he was making it impossible. And if you're the Bills,

427
00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:20,320
Speaker 1: like this is why you save cap space. I mean,

428
00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:23,440
Speaker 1: this is why you stack up on draft picks, which

429
00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:25,840
Speaker 1: they have like the it's like the NBA, like there's

430
00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:29,280
Speaker 1: no point in attaining all these assets if you're going

431
00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:31,880
Speaker 1: to have the process unless you use them. And especially

432
00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:34,919
Speaker 1: if you're the Bills, like this is their number one need.

433
00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:38,880
Speaker 1: And Digs to me is like a perfect fit for them,

434
00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:41,119
Speaker 1: and and it might be hard to get free agents

435
00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:43,040
Speaker 1: like that good to go to Buffalo. So it's a

436
00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:45,800
Speaker 1: trade for him and give him some money and and fly.

437
00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:48,119
Speaker 1: I don't know if Josh Allen is like up for it,

438
00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:49,880
Speaker 1: but it's like what are you doing if you don't

439
00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:52,320
Speaker 1: go for it? And the Vikings could come out of this. Okay,

440
00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:55,480
Speaker 1: yes they are very much still a win now team,

441
00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:57,360
Speaker 1: but as we all know, this is a very good

442
00:23:57,359 --> 00:23:59,840
Speaker 1: wide receiver draft. Maybe they end up getting someone that

443
00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:03,960
Speaker 1: they could develop alongside Adam Feeling. Uh, they should be Okay,

444
00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:06,480
Speaker 1: I think on offense still, and I do you know,

445
00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:09,000
Speaker 1: I do wonder with Diggs. He's a guy that is

446
00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:12,480
Speaker 1: um a big time producer, but he does he's an

447
00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:16,320
Speaker 1: emotional player, and he obviously had some issues with cousins.

448
00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:18,280
Speaker 1: I wonder what happens when you put him in Western

449
00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:21,919
Speaker 1: New York with a inconsistent young passer and Josh Allen,

450
00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:26,080
Speaker 1: And what happens when Alan starts flinging balls twenty yards

451
00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:29,960
Speaker 1: over his head? Will Digs start cryptic tweeting from Western

452
00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:31,520
Speaker 1: New York? I don't know. I mean, I don't I

453
00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:32,920
Speaker 1: want to give him the benefit of the doubt. He

454
00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:36,919
Speaker 1: seems like a good dude overall, so he's gonna be

455
00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:39,600
Speaker 1: There's gonna be cryptic tweets. It's just simply in his nature.

456
00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:42,880
Speaker 1: It will. They will creep out New York before long,

457
00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:47,520
Speaker 1: and so it's just something to track. Dan, you and

458
00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:52,240
Speaker 1: I have expressed some reservations about the player empowerment movement

459
00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:56,160
Speaker 1: and the ability to force your way out of a situation.

460
00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:58,639
Speaker 1: And I think from my end it was about I

461
00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:02,160
Speaker 1: don't want to see the NFL become the NBA, where

462
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:05,720
Speaker 1: there can be an inequality and an imbalance between loaded

463
00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:09,359
Speaker 1: teams that players want to play for and teams that

464
00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:12,200
Speaker 1: aren't loaded and players don't want to play for them.

465
00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:15,160
Speaker 1: Now and Jalen Ramsey and Stefon Diggs both these cases,

466
00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:18,879
Speaker 1: the teams weren't held hostage. They got very good value

467
00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:21,600
Speaker 1: in return for these players. Yeah, that's good to see

468
00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:25,120
Speaker 1: because you really worry if, like what you're saying, West,

469
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:27,760
Speaker 1: these guys are able to leverage themselves out despite being

470
00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:30,640
Speaker 1: under contract, and then the other team gets left holding

471
00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:33,440
Speaker 1: the bag completely their former team. But that's not what's

472
00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:36,920
Speaker 1: That's not what what's happening here at all. I also,

473
00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:39,600
Speaker 1: I guess I'm curious where Stefan Diggs what he feels

474
00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:42,159
Speaker 1: right now? Is is this something he's happy about it?

475
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:45,200
Speaker 1: Because we know that some players the idea of going

476
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:48,919
Speaker 1: up to Buffalo is not a great thought. So is

477
00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:51,640
Speaker 1: he Is he in a situation now where he's regretting

478
00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:53,960
Speaker 1: ever opening his mouth? Or is he the happiest man alive.

479
00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:56,640
Speaker 1: I haven't checked his Twitter, so I don't know. So

480
00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:59,359
Speaker 1: he has tweeted. He responded to like, let's get it

481
00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:03,479
Speaker 1: in response to uh to Josh Allen who tweeted at him,

482
00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:05,919
Speaker 1: and based on his tweets earlier today, you had to

483
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:08,840
Speaker 1: feel like he knew where this was going. He sort

484
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:11,560
Speaker 1: of broke the story. I gotta feel like he had

485
00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:14,840
Speaker 1: a feeling this was the team that he's going to

486
00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:17,719
Speaker 1: because I suspect he's going to get a contract with it.

487
00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:19,399
Speaker 1: So as long as you get paid, everyone's going to

488
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:21,480
Speaker 1: be happy. I gotta tell you, I'm pretty excite agree

489
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:25,000
Speaker 1: with that. Have cryptic Stefan Stefan Diggs tweets coming to

490
00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:27,320
Speaker 1: the a f C. East. I'm pumped about that. I mean,

491
00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:29,639
Speaker 1: I think, like everything is going to be great the

492
00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:32,240
Speaker 1: day that you find out you're out of your current

493
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:37,040
Speaker 1: annoying problem. But Stefan Diggs might have been the one

494
00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:40,080
Speaker 1: Vikings player that really did not fit into the culture

495
00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:43,560
Speaker 1: of that team and kept bucking the system. And he's

496
00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:46,800
Speaker 1: going to another team within Buffalo that has a very

497
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:49,720
Speaker 1: They're defining their culture and who they are, and like,

498
00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:53,879
Speaker 1: is he going to, you know, settle down and be

499
00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:55,800
Speaker 1: part of that or is he going to continue to

500
00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:58,119
Speaker 1: you know, I like, I like the idea of sending

501
00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:02,040
Speaker 1: out tweets that are you know, subtweet people say what

502
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:05,199
Speaker 1: you want to say, drop mega bombs, be mysterious. But

503
00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:08,239
Speaker 1: at the same time, like, if you're Stefon Diggs, if

504
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:10,200
Speaker 1: he does that for the second straight team, I don't

505
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:12,280
Speaker 1: know he's I think it's a bit of a risk

506
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 1: for Buffalo in terms of the personality it could be.

507
00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:19,200
Speaker 1: But I love the trade for the Bills and we're

508
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:20,920
Speaker 1: going to get to the Browns a little bit later.

509
00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:23,440
Speaker 1: I liked what they did today. This is the big

510
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:27,240
Speaker 1: year three for these eighteen first round draft quarterbacks. And

511
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:31,000
Speaker 1: in this case again they made the big gains last

512
00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:33,960
Speaker 1: year by adding Cole Beasley and John Brown. It was

513
00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:36,520
Speaker 1: clear they needed a number one guy. You may be

514
00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 1: able to argue about whether Stefon Diggs is a true

515
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:42,679
Speaker 1: number one court uh wide receiver or more kind of

516
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:45,840
Speaker 1: like okay, or like a one B type guy. That's

517
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:47,440
Speaker 1: that's suff for debate if you want. But he is

518
00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:50,199
Speaker 1: obviously a guy that makes that wide receiver room a

519
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:52,560
Speaker 1: hell of a lot better. Uh. It's it's a good

520
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:58,520
Speaker 1: day for Bills fans about Josh Allen. For all of

521
00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:02,600
Speaker 1: his obvious flaws as a passer, his teammates gush over him,

522
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:05,399
Speaker 1: his coaches love him. I mean, I don't see that

523
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:09,720
Speaker 1: as a problem with Stefon Diggs not enjoying playing with him.

524
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:12,880
Speaker 1: More big wide receiver news this out of Dallas, where

525
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:17,160
Speaker 1: Marie Cooper UH and the Cowboys agreed to a five year,

526
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 1: one million dollar contract that keeps the wide receiver in

527
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:25,000
Speaker 1: big D. This from rap sheet rapp report adds that

528
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 1: Cooper will receive sixty million in guarantees. ESPN had this

529
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:32,960
Speaker 1: report first. The contract comes roughly twelve hours after the

530
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:37,119
Speaker 1: Cowboys elected to place the exclusive franchise tag on quarterback

531
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:39,920
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott. So where are we at now? So you

532
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:43,800
Speaker 1: have Zeke Elliott after all his drama last summer, he's

533
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:46,400
Speaker 1: under contract long term. You got a Marie Cooper now

534
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:50,240
Speaker 1: under contract long term. You have Dak Prescott under contract

535
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:52,760
Speaker 1: right now for at least one year. You have I

536
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:56,720
Speaker 1: believe over sixty million dollars tied up in your cap

537
00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:59,640
Speaker 1: to three players. But this is the game the Cowboys

538
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 1: are playing, and it's a risky one. But they also

539
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 1: couldn't let Cooper out the door, right. I think this

540
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:10,600
Speaker 1: was so so obvious for the Cowboys to do, and

541
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:12,480
Speaker 1: that they've played it as well as they could have,

542
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:14,960
Speaker 1: and that Cooper especially is a huge winner because he

543
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:17,400
Speaker 1: got the money that he wanted and he clearly got

544
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:20,840
Speaker 1: the team that he wanted. Like I sort of mocked

545
00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 1: and I was totally wrong. Um that Cowboys fans like

546
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:27,680
Speaker 1: sometimes think things they want to happen are going to

547
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:29,920
Speaker 1: happen just because they were the Cowboys. But I think

548
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:32,800
Speaker 1: in this case, like being the Cowboys didn't make a difference.

549
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:37,560
Speaker 1: Like by multiple reports, the Redskins um we're in on

550
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:40,720
Speaker 1: Cooper and probably offered him more money. The Dallas Morning

551
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:44,720
Speaker 1: News Michael Gelkin reported that, and a couple others hint

552
00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:46,480
Speaker 1: at it, at it, but he didn't want to go

553
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:50,000
Speaker 1: to the Redskins, Like it's a pretty obvious choice which

554
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:53,520
Speaker 1: team you would do if it's close enough, and Cooper stayed,

555
00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:55,680
Speaker 1: and like Dac and Dack and Amari Cooper are just

556
00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:58,640
Speaker 1: better off together and and they should be, even if

557
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:02,800
Speaker 1: the Dack thing is dramatic. What Jerry Jones streak continues

558
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:06,400
Speaker 1: when when does he ever identify a star player he

559
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 1: wants to resign and then that guy goes elsewhere? Don't happen.

560
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 1: I should have known. I should have known. That's my bad.

561
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 1: Come on, They're very effective at that, and I love

562
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:17,640
Speaker 1: that they have Michael Gallup there too. And it's had

563
00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:21,880
Speaker 1: had had Cooper wound up anywhere else, you would have

564
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 1: looked at Dallas and just said the master plan totally failed.

565
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 1: And Jerry Jones gets, you know, critiqued rightfully for certain things.

566
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:33,800
Speaker 1: I think is his reputation, uh correctly for a long

567
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:37,320
Speaker 1: time was over paying players he kind of liked who

568
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:39,400
Speaker 1: may not have been, you know, in a Bill belly

569
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:43,120
Speaker 1: checking way at their peak. But this, this had to happen,

570
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:47,880
Speaker 1: and he's slowly he's keeping this core together. I well see.

571
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:50,400
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not as hot about the deal, to

572
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:52,560
Speaker 1: be quite honest with you. I feel like in a

573
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 1: couple of years, when the Cowboys are in the fiery

574
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 1: is the fire salary cap hell uh, that maybe this

575
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:01,360
Speaker 1: they will rue it a that they committed all this

576
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:04,960
Speaker 1: money to some of these guys. But I also understand

577
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,080
Speaker 1: it would have been a bad look to not find

578
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 1: a way to keep Cooper. We'll see how it all

579
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 1: plays out. They could have gotten the route what we

580
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:15,160
Speaker 1: were just talking about um with the Vikings, where they

581
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 1: could have let Cooper walk, get their salary cap under control,

582
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 1: and then go get a young wide receiver in the draft.

583
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 1: But obviously they liked the chemistry between Dak and Cooper.

584
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:27,160
Speaker 1: I totally get that. So I think it does come

585
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:29,160
Speaker 1: with risk long term, but in the short term, it

586
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 1: makes them, you know, a better team, and it makes

587
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 1: them a real NFC contender. He isn't part of it

588
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:36,560
Speaker 1: because you know the cost, the cost they gave up

589
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:39,360
Speaker 1: to Oakland to get him. If he's gone, you know,

590
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:42,720
Speaker 1: six hundred days later, it looks like a totally botched experience.

591
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:45,760
Speaker 1: I think you have to they had to keep them

592
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 1: whether and I and I think he's he's fit as

593
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:53,600
Speaker 1: well with Dak Prescott as anyone you could ask. And

594
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 1: one last bit of wide receiver news before we move on,

595
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:59,760
Speaker 1: circling back to the Texans. On the day where DeAndre

596
00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 1: how Hopkins leaves the franchise, Randall Cob enters the picture.

597
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 1: Uh this uh from James Jones on Twitter. Cobb signs

598
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:11,560
Speaker 1: a three year, twenty seven million dollar contract with the

599
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 1: Texans to join that wide receiver group, which we didn't

600
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 1: really get into. What's left at that wide receiver group

601
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 1: Kenny Stills and Will Fuller real playmaker who can't stay

602
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 1: on the field. Well here's Cobb, who rehabbed his value

603
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 1: a bit in Dallas last season. Um, but obviously this

604
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 1: isn't gonna be something that's gonna help Texans spent sleep

605
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:34,720
Speaker 1: at night. No, especially not because of the money. I

606
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 1: mean him getting nine million dollars year indicates to me

607
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:40,080
Speaker 1: that the Cowboys who said they were going to be

608
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:44,480
Speaker 1: aggressive trying to keep Cobb probably were because that's a

609
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:46,880
Speaker 1: that's a great contract for a guy who's had that

610
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:50,760
Speaker 1: many injuries, that little production at least the last you know,

611
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 1: three to four years as a whole, and last year

612
00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:57,440
Speaker 1: signed a one year, five million dollar contract. It's like

613
00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:00,239
Speaker 1: that that is a bad fill in to me if

614
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 1: you're a Texans fan for DeAndre Hopkins. Yeah, he's he's

615
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 1: a slot guy and he and he doesn't come with

616
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:09,560
Speaker 1: size like like Hopkin does, where he's a boundary receiver

617
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 1: and works the end zone. Well, So I wonder about

618
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:16,560
Speaker 1: their red zone offense going forward. Uh. In other news,

619
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:21,240
Speaker 1: the San Francisco forty Niners also made a big trade.

620
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:26,160
Speaker 1: They sent one of their blue chip defensive lineman away

621
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 1: in a trade DeForest Buckner dealt to the Indianapolis Colts

622
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:35,600
Speaker 1: in exchange for the number thirteen overall pick. The writing,

623
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:38,000
Speaker 1: I guess was on the wall for Buckner and San

624
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 1: Francisco when Eric Armstead of the Niners got a five year,

625
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:45,120
Speaker 1: eighty five million dollar contract on Monday. On Monday, so

626
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:47,960
Speaker 1: they couldn't pay both of them. They chose Armstead. So

627
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 1: Buckner goes to the Colts. He's a big time disruptor west,

628
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:55,000
Speaker 1: a guy that's um a star, and the Colts at

629
00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:57,600
Speaker 1: a major piece on their defensive line. Feels like a

630
00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:01,120
Speaker 1: good trade for both sides. Yeah, I like this deal

631
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:03,480
Speaker 1: for both sides. I understand why the forty Niners did it.

632
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:08,919
Speaker 1: They basically chose Eric Armstead's versatility over DeForest Buckner being

633
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:11,600
Speaker 1: more of an inside player, and the Colts, this is

634
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:14,040
Speaker 1: what they've been waiting for. You've got all that cap room,

635
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:16,719
Speaker 1: and they got criticized last year for not using it,

636
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 1: but they didn't want to spend it on guys who

637
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:20,759
Speaker 1: weren't difference makers. They didn't want to spend it on

638
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:22,839
Speaker 1: guys they were gonna have to cut a year later.

639
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 1: So now they had eighty million dollars in cap room.

640
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Speaker 1: You go out and get DeForest Buckner making the second

641
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:30,840
Speaker 1: highest paid defensive player in football in the prime of

642
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:33,279
Speaker 1: his career, a guy who was voted m v P

643
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 1: by the forty Niners of their Super Bowl team. This

644
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:38,760
Speaker 1: is the kind of guy you want to build around.

645
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 1: And now you've got Quentin Nelson on one side. You've

646
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:45,160
Speaker 1: got Darius Leonard and DeForest Buckner. On the other side,

647
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:48,520
Speaker 1: you've got a pretty good secondary and you've got infrastructure.

648
00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:50,240
Speaker 1: This is a kind of deal you can make because

649
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:53,400
Speaker 1: your GM has created all that salary cap space and

650
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:56,799
Speaker 1: drafted so well that you don't have to press to

651
00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:58,799
Speaker 1: fill holes in the draft or free agency. You can

652
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 1: go get the best player of ail. Buckner will be

653
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:05,920
Speaker 1: twenty six years old tomorrow, So this is a guy

654
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:09,439
Speaker 1: that the Colts can bring to the team and uh,

655
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:11,319
Speaker 1: he could be a guy that's a building block from

656
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 1: them on defense. So I think the Colts who will

657
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:16,399
Speaker 1: see what happens. As of right now, they don't have

658
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 1: that new quarterback that people are expecting, but when you

659
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 1: add him to this player and then anticipated upgrades on offense.

660
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 1: We talked about teams that have a chance to win

661
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:30,279
Speaker 1: the offseason. Mark you wrote a banger on NFL dot

662
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:33,280
Speaker 1: com about the dangers of that. But the Colts stand

663
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 1: out as that team potentially, and Buckner's a major piece

664
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:39,120
Speaker 1: for them. And the Niners, well, when you have I

665
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 1: think they're at what point where they have four guys

666
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:44,319
Speaker 1: or five guys on their defensive line, including a guy

667
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:47,279
Speaker 1: that was essentially reserved that we're all first round picks. Uh,

668
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:50,200
Speaker 1: this was never gonna hold. So uh they they do

669
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:51,920
Speaker 1: the best thing they can do, and now they can

670
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:55,480
Speaker 1: bring in as the defending NFC champion premium draft pick.

671
00:35:55,719 --> 00:36:01,400
Speaker 1: I think it's a great trade. The the Cults getting

672
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:03,560
Speaker 1: the number I mean, the forty Diners getting the number

673
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 1: thirteen overall pick um is good value. But ultimately I

674
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:10,920
Speaker 1: think that if they had to do it again, like

675
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 1: they gave up a second round pick and a monster

676
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:16,640
Speaker 1: contract for d Ford and now you can't kill that

677
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 1: trade after one year. But Ford has been injured throughout

678
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:22,719
Speaker 1: his career. He's been pretty up and down, whereas de

679
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 1: Forrest Buckner has been one of the best players at

680
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:28,920
Speaker 1: his position to me as a pretty superior player to

681
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:31,719
Speaker 1: our Rick Armstead, and they just couldn't like afford to

682
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 1: keep everyone. And they also don't have any draft picks.

683
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 1: They don't have any second, third, or fourth round pick,

684
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 1: so they wanted to like get a pick back. I

685
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:43,719
Speaker 1: totally get why they made the move, but it's sort

686
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:48,359
Speaker 1: of just like an unfortunate um repercussion of having such

687
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 1: a good team. They have so many good players to

688
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:53,879
Speaker 1: pay and they've kind of made their choices and made

689
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 1: a ton of big expenses over the last couple of years,

690
00:36:57,320 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 1: and so now they gotta just decide to make a

691
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 1: tough chos can get rid of Buckler. Well, I mean

692
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:04,279
Speaker 1: that said, at least John Lynch got value compared to

693
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:06,759
Speaker 1: the last trade we just discussed, and you're in a

694
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 1: tough spot. You can't keep them all. And I to me,

695
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 1: it's the Cults, you know, in in Daniel Jeremiah, before

696
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 1: we came on the year to do our show here,

697
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:18,440
Speaker 1: said on NFL Network that he would be shocked and

698
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 1: we'll get into this later if they if they didn't

699
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:22,240
Speaker 1: wind up with Philip Rivers. So I think that they

700
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 1: obviously have a beat on their quarterback situation. But if

701
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 1: you're looking on both sides of the ball, as West

702
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 1: mentioned that Chris Ballard is a certain type of player

703
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:34,840
Speaker 1: that he wants, and the Cults are not going to

704
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 1: settle for anyone that is less than a bully, less

705
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 1: than ultra physical, and that sort of seems to be

706
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:42,759
Speaker 1: their identity. And I kind of like that in that

707
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:45,359
Speaker 1: division because it's a bit at this point, it's it's

708
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:48,240
Speaker 1: a counterbalance to some of what you know, the Texans

709
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 1: are letting some of these guys go and the cults

710
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:55,400
Speaker 1: are patiently building where I think it matters along the

711
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:58,719
Speaker 1: line on both sides. In other news, tom Brady is

712
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 1: the biggest name both in the NFL and on the

713
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 1: free agent market. Yes, for the first time ever, Tommy

714
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:07,800
Speaker 1: b was allowed. And strangely, I was watching NFL Network

715
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:10,960
Speaker 1: coverage all day. You can't bring up Don tom Brady

716
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:13,520
Speaker 1: right now without Don Yee coming up his agent. I mean,

717
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 1: is is this guy does he have a deal worked out?

718
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:19,040
Speaker 1: Where anyone that says Tom Brady says Tom Brady and

719
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 1: his agent Don ye are very busy right now. Potentially

720
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:26,799
Speaker 1: what's up with that? Probably is a deal. I think

721
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 1: you've I think you've zeroed in on the truth there

722
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:34,480
Speaker 1: like two clients, and that it's Tom Brady and Jimmy Garoppolo.

723
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:38,080
Speaker 1: It just got suspicious after a while anyway, So let's

724
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:41,839
Speaker 1: talk about the Tom Brady situation. Day one of free

725
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 1: agency week, the legal tampering period, and Mike Giardi of

726
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 1: NFL Network. They sticked Ardi up at Foxboro to just

727
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:52,240
Speaker 1: stand in front of the stadium for twelve hours and

728
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 1: he his report coming out of Foxborough is that the

729
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:59,400
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Bucks and I enjoyed the wording on this too,

730
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:01,480
Speaker 1: because you see the same thing on the scroll hour

731
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:04,279
Speaker 1: after hour after hour, and then they have a new

732
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:08,919
Speaker 1: discussion every block or so that is about Tom Brady.

733
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:13,440
Speaker 1: The Bucks have made their intentions for Tom Brady loud

734
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:17,080
Speaker 1: and clear their intentions. It's almost like a eight hundred

735
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:21,520
Speaker 1: style courtship going on between the Bucks and Brady. So

736
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:24,760
Speaker 1: the Tampa Bay is all the way in still and

737
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:29,800
Speaker 1: uh Victofer of The Athletic reports that the Raiders quote

738
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:33,960
Speaker 1: aren't totally out of the running for Tom Brady. And

739
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 1: then of course the Patriots are in the mix. But

740
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:38,400
Speaker 1: if you talk to the people or the people in

741
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 1: NFL network Greg, it's it's it's starting to sound like

742
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:45,480
Speaker 1: that Brady to the Patriots could be a long shot.

743
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:47,600
Speaker 1: Maybe that's too strong a word, but that this is

744
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:52,160
Speaker 1: very real that he might not be back. I don't

745
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 1: know what to think. Like Mike Reaess of ESPN today

746
00:39:56,480 --> 00:40:00,120
Speaker 1: saying he's starting to doubt whether Tom Brady had as

747
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:05,040
Speaker 1: much interest of going back to the Patriots was probably

748
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:08,200
Speaker 1: the most newsworthy thing I saw today, because you do

749
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 1: get that sort of feeling to me that the actions

750
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 1: speak louder than any of these reports, he's not getting

751
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:17,840
Speaker 1: signed and there's no one saying that a deal is close,

752
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 1: and to me that it causes it raises questions about

753
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:24,920
Speaker 1: the market that he has. I'm kind of of the

754
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:28,239
Speaker 1: mind the Patriots are not signing him after Wednesday at

755
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:31,240
Speaker 1: four pm, that it either gets done with the Patriots

756
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:35,319
Speaker 1: by then or he's moving on and and they're trying

757
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:37,239
Speaker 1: to drum up a market like I don't I don't

758
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:40,759
Speaker 1: know how real that market is. What's interesting dynamic. Do

759
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:43,000
Speaker 1: you have a market if you have three teams interested

760
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 1: in you, but you don't want to go to any

761
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:50,239
Speaker 1: of those three teams. That's a problem is that when

762
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:52,879
Speaker 1: you retire. I mean it is. It is a there's

763
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:56,439
Speaker 1: a bit of an odd flavor feeling to this whole thing,

764
00:40:56,640 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 1: and I'm wondering about what the Patriots so that ultimately

765
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 1: are the Are the Patriots playing hardball with Tom Brady?

766
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:05,440
Speaker 1: Is this where we're are? This is? But that you

767
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:07,400
Speaker 1: know what that does. I said this a couple of

768
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:11,239
Speaker 1: weeks ago. That doesn't strike me as particularly classy by

769
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:14,840
Speaker 1: this organization. That's how they're gonna play this. They're gonna

770
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:17,400
Speaker 1: say take it or leave it. Tom, You try to

771
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 1: get another job and if you want to crawl back here,

772
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:21,359
Speaker 1: we'll give you the deal we want to give you.

773
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:23,480
Speaker 1: That's how that's how this is gonna end, or that's

774
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 1: how they want to play it. I don't love it

775
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 1: at all. First of all, they didn't last year. I mean,

776
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:30,680
Speaker 1: he wanted a much different contract than the one he got.

777
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:33,600
Speaker 1: But that the big thing he got from them that

778
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:36,880
Speaker 1: he said was most important is he wants to be

779
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 1: a free agent and you know, show his wares elsewhere.

780
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 1: And the word from New England is you know you

781
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:47,959
Speaker 1: keep getting and you're thinking that these are team type

782
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 1: sources are like, we don't think there's that big a

783
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:53,359
Speaker 1: market for him, and in Tom Current said that like

784
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:56,360
Speaker 1: they are operating under the assumption that there's not that

785
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:58,719
Speaker 1: big a market for him and that he should go

786
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:04,800
Speaker 1: find it if if he thinks otherwise. I always, I

787
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:06,880
Speaker 1: always go back to that quote from his dad where

788
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:08,680
Speaker 1: five years ago or whatever, and he said, this is

789
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:10,959
Speaker 1: how it ends. It's ugly and it never ends well.

790
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:14,280
Speaker 1: And you look at guys like Logan Mankins, Richard Seymour,

791
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:16,520
Speaker 1: Lawyer Malloy, I mean, how often does it end well

792
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:20,080
Speaker 1: with the Patriots Party? Baby, you just gotta be willing

793
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:22,840
Speaker 1: to take like less money than you could possibly make elsewhere.

794
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 1: I mean, I think I guess that's what that's what

795
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:33,320
Speaker 1: Brady has been doing. Yeah, okay with that? As a

796
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:36,719
Speaker 1: Patriots fan, Greg, you're okay with how this is being

797
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:38,880
Speaker 1: Let me ask Erica, because Gregg I kind of feeling

798
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:42,120
Speaker 1: what you're gonna say. Ricky is a die hard New

799
00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:44,719
Speaker 1: Englander and Patriots fan. Are you where are you at

800
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:47,719
Speaker 1: with how the Pats are handling this negotiation with the

801
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:49,759
Speaker 1: greatest player of all time and the man that's brought

802
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:53,239
Speaker 1: a lifetime of beautiful memories to you and millions of

803
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:55,879
Speaker 1: other people in the region where you grew up. Well,

804
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:58,200
Speaker 1: you set it up perfectly. All my friends back home

805
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:00,879
Speaker 1: are on Brady watch. I mean, it's the fact that

806
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:03,879
Speaker 1: this is even a conversation and that they would even

807
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 1: let him look outside of the building is asinine to

808
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 1: me and all of my friends. And I get it.

809
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:12,640
Speaker 1: They don't want to they don't want to pay for him,

810
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:14,600
Speaker 1: or they think that he can't get it, you know

811
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:17,440
Speaker 1: somewhere else. I just it's it's exactly how you just

812
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:19,840
Speaker 1: set it up. And I know you're being a little facetious, Dan,

813
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:22,319
Speaker 1: but it's true. Like I'm not. I'm seriously not. And

814
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 1: I know you might think that because it's the Pat's

815
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:26,640
Speaker 1: and Tom Brady, but it really does rub it the

816
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:28,960
Speaker 1: wrong way. The way this is played out. I just

817
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:33,120
Speaker 1: can't go ahead. I just can't believe. I just can't

818
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:35,759
Speaker 1: believe it. I don't know. I just I want I

819
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:39,239
Speaker 1: think that maybe that this is all some sort of

820
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 1: big you know, to do, and that he'll end up

821
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:46,279
Speaker 1: back there. But then I'm sort of looking at Brady like,

822
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:49,640
Speaker 1: how how dare you want to go somewhere else when

823
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:53,560
Speaker 1: we we made you? You know what I mean? Like

824
00:43:53,960 --> 00:44:01,279
Speaker 1: you laugh, lest But it's true. You know, the Patriots,

825
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 1: they didn't they didn't make Tom Brady. Bill Belichick and

826
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:08,279
Speaker 1: Tom Brady both know and they will know for the

827
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:11,799
Speaker 1: rest of their life that they were in a mutually

828
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:16,920
Speaker 1: beneficial partnership that made the two of them what they are.

829
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:19,320
Speaker 1: I don't think there's well exactly you plug. You plug

830
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:22,759
Speaker 1: either of them into another situation and it's and it's nothing.

831
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:29,239
Speaker 1: It's conversation and the history of the NFL. But he's

832
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:31,719
Speaker 1: forty three years old, and this stuff always gets ugly.

833
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:33,839
Speaker 1: I guess my point is, none of it matters if

834
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:36,040
Speaker 1: he ends up back with the Patriots, like then this

835
00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:38,920
Speaker 1: is just what negotiations happened. Drew Brees and the Saints

836
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 1: got ugly as hell about five or six years ago,

837
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:44,640
Speaker 1: and like no one remembers, and we'll see how it ends.

838
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 1: I did hear through some Internet that it's like total

839
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:52,839
Speaker 1: bunker mentality with Brady's representation, that maybe it's not his

840
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:55,759
Speaker 1: agent right now that's putting out anything. That you're not

841
00:44:55,920 --> 00:45:00,680
Speaker 1: hearing anything, which usually when you're not hearing anything, it's

842
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:03,760
Speaker 1: not a good thing. If Tom Brady was getting offered

843
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:07,480
Speaker 1: thirty five million dollars a year, sixty guaranteed from the

844
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:09,200
Speaker 1: Bucks and they were just like, we're gonna pay you

845
00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:12,200
Speaker 1: whatever we want. I have a hard time believing we

846
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:14,799
Speaker 1: would not know about that almost immediately. The fact that

847
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 1: we're not hearing anything, especially about Brady, I think does not,

848
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:22,279
Speaker 1: you know, necessarily bode well for Brady getting like what

849
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:24,640
Speaker 1: they want. Greg, don't think I didn't notice that you

850
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:28,080
Speaker 1: mentioned Brady's agent but did not say his name. Don

851
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 1: I apologize to Don John Yee by the tame Back

852
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:38,319
Speaker 1: in the day, I tried to do, uh A, what

853
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:40,160
Speaker 1: would have been sort of a long form on Tom

854
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:44,680
Speaker 1: Brady's and I attempted um through you know, and even

855
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:48,040
Speaker 1: Don ye has handlers, so through a handler of Don

856
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:51,680
Speaker 1: Yee to get Tom Brady's cookbook. Um, you know, it's

857
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:54,040
Speaker 1: essentially sent to me, and I was. I told him,

858
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:55,920
Speaker 1: I'm gonna write, I'm gonna try to do this in

859
00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 1: a positive way. I'm not going to do one of

860
00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:00,200
Speaker 1: these undead spins. So I'm just gonna fry you as

861
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:02,839
Speaker 1: you eat something that isn't like, you know, cut from

862
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:04,959
Speaker 1: an animal's belly. I tried, I was gonna, I'm gonna

863
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 1: try to do a complimentary piece on this, and he

864
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:12,280
Speaker 1: refused to send me the cookbook. Basically, the only interaction

865
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:15,360
Speaker 1: with done, You're you're basically gonna say I hate people

866
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:19,040
Speaker 1: who eat meat. So this is gonna be and I will,

867
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:20,959
Speaker 1: I will carry the water up and down the hill.

868
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:23,680
Speaker 1: Just send me the book. And you want to know, no,

869
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:26,280
Speaker 1: because you actually were in a meeting or two about

870
00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:27,919
Speaker 1: the stance, so you know that was not the case.

871
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:29,879
Speaker 1: But I was not going to do one of these.

872
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:32,319
Speaker 1: Send it to me so I can auto bury you

873
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 1: and like a three word hit piece about avocado ice

874
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:40,120
Speaker 1: cream so he but but he turned me, he turned

875
00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:44,239
Speaker 1: me anti TV twelve diet because he refused to send

876
00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:46,640
Speaker 1: me the cookbook, had to buy them myself. In the

877
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 1: article got buried. What addend him to this story, because

878
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:52,319
Speaker 1: I do remember this era is that you did buy

879
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:55,640
Speaker 1: the book and it was an absurd like two cookbook,

880
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:58,320
Speaker 1: as I recall, and then you didn't get you didn't

881
00:46:58,320 --> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 1: write the long form, and you didn't get um expensed

882
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:05,240
Speaker 1: for it, so you got stuck with the two rocks.

883
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:08,680
Speaker 1: I think the long form was deep six because Tom

884
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:11,640
Speaker 1: Brady like threw his cell phone off a cliff and

885
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 1: then was suspended, and so it wasn't the right time

886
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:17,560
Speaker 1: to do all of this. But you know that, Yeah,

887
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:19,520
Speaker 1: you're right. I did not get any money back for

888
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:21,919
Speaker 1: the cookbook. Maybe you can bring it back when he's

889
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:27,480
Speaker 1: just starting his Buccaneers career after having no off season program,

890
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:31,200
Speaker 1: and he's now eating at all the steakhouses and strip

891
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:34,839
Speaker 1: clubs that Tampa is so famous for. You can just say, like,

892
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:39,399
Speaker 1: what whatever happened to your old book? Tom, that's right

893
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:42,799
Speaker 1: up there market long form for someone else, it's right

894
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:46,560
Speaker 1: up there in terms of expense. Report Boondoggles with Chris

895
00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:49,440
Speaker 1: Westling at Super Bowl forty eight or Super Bowl forty

896
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:52,879
Speaker 1: seven when we were underneath a giant air conditioner. Great,

897
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:56,160
Speaker 1: so West was cold. So he went and bought like

898
00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:59,759
Speaker 1: a hundred and fifty dollar Super Bowl winter jacket at

899
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:02,239
Speaker 1: the can session stand and then try to expense it.

900
00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:06,759
Speaker 1: And that got New York conflating stories. Is the year

901
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:08,480
Speaker 1: in New York when I was walking around in a

902
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:10,560
Speaker 1: T shirt because it was eight degrees and they sent

903
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:13,400
Speaker 1: my luggage to Miami. I needed to buy a jacket.

904
00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:15,719
Speaker 1: The year in San Francisco, I had to get a

905
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:17,920
Speaker 1: skull cap in the middle of the game because my

906
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:21,000
Speaker 1: noggin was cold. Yeah, West and I were down in

907
00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:23,400
Speaker 1: Jersey City while you while Dan and Greg were in

908
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:27,600
Speaker 1: like a luxury hotel up in Manhattan having like mimosas

909
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:30,440
Speaker 1: with like insiders. So there was a reason that West

910
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:34,680
Speaker 1: purchased the eating belly meat. No, but West, there was

911
00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:39,040
Speaker 1: a uh, there was an expensive NFL merchandise jacket that

912
00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:41,279
Speaker 1: you attempt to get these at some point. Yeah, that

913
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:45,480
Speaker 1: was That was the year my entire luggage to Miami,

914
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:49,239
Speaker 1: so I had no jacket whatsoever to wear. Did you

915
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:51,880
Speaker 1: get the money back for that? I think that was

916
00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:54,200
Speaker 1: probably a No. I was too. I wasn't high enough

917
00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:58,240
Speaker 1: on the totem poll at that time. So to my point,

918
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:01,879
Speaker 1: League of York, they came up to West and made

919
00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:04,719
Speaker 1: it very clear, uh in the news room that West

920
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:10,320
Speaker 1: would not be getting his money back for that. Come West,

921
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:13,000
Speaker 1: if you thought that you were, if you were aware

922
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:15,399
Speaker 1: that you were not going to get reimbursed for that

923
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:20,279
Speaker 1: expensive League UM merchandise, would you have purchased it? Yeah,

924
00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:22,359
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna wear a T shirt around in eight

925
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:24,799
Speaker 1: degree weather all week. I have a history of ronchitis

926
00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:27,640
Speaker 1: and asthma. Where was this? This was in New York,

927
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:32,000
Speaker 1: This was in Jersey City. Why didn't you buy? Uh?

928
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:35,120
Speaker 1: Never mind it was It was an expense report boondoggle though,

929
00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:37,920
Speaker 1: because she didn't get the money back, that's not on me.

930
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:40,759
Speaker 1: That's on the people. That's on the gate keepers. Give

931
00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:45,200
Speaker 1: me a break. By the way, speaking of UM, well,

932
00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:48,000
Speaker 1: not speaking of anything that's some men's outerwear stuff, but

933
00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:52,239
Speaker 1: in terms of men's style. Earlier today, I reached out

934
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:55,080
Speaker 1: to the Heroes and Erica privately and let her decide

935
00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:58,640
Speaker 1: how she wants to play this UM and said, as

936
00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:02,839
Speaker 1: long as we are UM stuck at home because of

937
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:06,839
Speaker 1: the coronavirus. Let's not shave, Let's just let it rip.

938
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:09,440
Speaker 1: Let's just see what happens with the Beard situation for

939
00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:13,160
Speaker 1: all of us, and you guys seemed amenable to seeing

940
00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:16,719
Speaker 1: how it all plays out. Let's get crazy, um and

941
00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:19,440
Speaker 1: ricky Um. I think this is something we can perhaps

942
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:33,120
Speaker 1: track for social madness. Yeah, sure, whatever, whatever you want. Wow, Yeah,

943
00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:36,880
Speaker 1: it's funny, Like was like, come on, think about social

944
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:39,920
Speaker 1: think about the Instagram handle that I started, and it's

945
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:41,600
Speaker 1: gonna make me a start. And then you try to

946
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:45,160
Speaker 1: come up with an idea and it's like, yeah, cool whatever, bro, No,

947
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:51,399
Speaker 1: I think it's a really good idea. Shut up, this

948
00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:56,160
Speaker 1: is embarrassing. As we are talking, we've got some some

949
00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:58,920
Speaker 1: developing breaking news, which to me is part of the

950
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:02,680
Speaker 1: Tom Brady stories. I've throwed it out there that the

951
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:06,720
Speaker 1: Raiders are close to a deal with Marcus Mariota. According

952
00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:09,480
Speaker 1: to Ian Rappaport, they are closing in on a contract

953
00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:12,080
Speaker 1: with Mariota. And if that would happen, that's just like

954
00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:16,120
Speaker 1: another one of those Brady potential landing spots that gets

955
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:20,000
Speaker 1: filled up. Derek Carr throw a party, David head over

956
00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:23,520
Speaker 1: there to Fresno. What a perfect situation. That is the

957
00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:26,560
Speaker 1: guy that I want backing me up. Al a Lujah

958
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:32,400
Speaker 1: Carr family. Yeah, I'm not sure. I don't know. I

959
00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:35,120
Speaker 1: know that Mayok was very high on Mariota coming out

960
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:39,080
Speaker 1: of the draft, but and reclamation projects happened, but he

961
00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:42,440
Speaker 1: had declined and regressed so much as a quarterback over

962
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:44,600
Speaker 1: the last three years. I don't see him as a

963
00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:48,160
Speaker 1: threat to Derek Carr right off the bat, I don't either.

964
00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:51,279
Speaker 1: But if they're two and four, like Mariota is going

965
00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:54,320
Speaker 1: to be playing, you know, it's like if that actually

966
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:56,960
Speaker 1: happens and they have a losing record, then they're gonna

967
00:51:57,000 --> 00:51:59,200
Speaker 1: just see what's behind door numbers. Pretty much a best

968
00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:02,840
Speaker 1: case scenario. Now, there is obviously the potential still of

969
00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:06,000
Speaker 1: Derek Carr gets traded and the and the Raiders draft

970
00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:08,799
Speaker 1: a quarterback or who knows, anything could happen. But if

971
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:11,200
Speaker 1: this think, if it holds the way it does, if

972
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:14,840
Speaker 1: you're Derek Carr, even though he's very from a public

973
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:17,680
Speaker 1: stance and Mark we've we've tracked this from a public stance.

974
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:20,400
Speaker 1: You know, he's been going to the groundbreaking in Vegas.

975
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:23,160
Speaker 1: He bought the house next to John Gruden. He's saying

976
00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:25,360
Speaker 1: all the things he needs to say to kind of

977
00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:29,520
Speaker 1: ingratiate himself and trench himself with that franchise further. Um.

978
00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:32,200
Speaker 1: But this is the first time where I would feel

979
00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:34,279
Speaker 1: a little bit confident, like, Okay, I think I'm gonna

980
00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:36,520
Speaker 1: get one more crack at this as the starting quarterback.

981
00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:39,680
Speaker 1: I mean, or they draft someone. Because depending on where

982
00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:42,600
Speaker 1: all these you know, so called Domino's fall and I

983
00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:46,000
Speaker 1: and I'm exhausted with the Tom Brady is the first

984
00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:49,200
Speaker 1: Domino theory. Tom Brady does not understand how he does

985
00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:51,839
Speaker 1: not understand how Domino's work, and neither any of the team,

986
00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:54,960
Speaker 1: neither any of these so called suitors, because it's like

987
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:57,160
Speaker 1: the interest is not there. And I think with Derek

988
00:52:57,239 --> 00:52:59,920
Speaker 1: Carr there's a part A and then the slow roll

989
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:04,200
Speaker 1: Part B would be if Gruden and Mayock and the

990
00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:06,560
Speaker 1: rest of the crew fell in love with someone that

991
00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:08,640
Speaker 1: they could either move up for in the draft or

992
00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:11,560
Speaker 1: just have have fall to them in the draft. I

993
00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:16,040
Speaker 1: I cannot believe, after the overall feeling that we've gotten

994
00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:20,080
Speaker 1: about the Gruden Derek Carr experience up to now, that

995
00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:23,040
Speaker 1: Gruden wants to do another year of that. If you

996
00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:27,040
Speaker 1: get stuck with it. That's fine, But I mean, there

997
00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:31,080
Speaker 1: are thirty two of these coach quarterback relationships in the NFL,

998
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:35,239
Speaker 1: and has this ever really felt Here's the thing to

999
00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:37,880
Speaker 1: us with a lot of that was a blooming flower,

1000
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:40,200
Speaker 1: it's the opposite that to that. To that point, Mark,

1001
00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:43,080
Speaker 1: I agree with you, but I feel, like us and

1002
00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:45,480
Speaker 1: everyone else, there's a lot of assumption about what John

1003
00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:48,239
Speaker 1: Gruden thinks about Derek Carr. And I know that you

1004
00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:50,799
Speaker 1: could say that some some things that they've done, whether

1005
00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:53,799
Speaker 1: it's pre draft visits or workouts or this or that,

1006
00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:56,600
Speaker 1: tells us that that he doesn't want him and wants

1007
00:53:56,640 --> 00:53:58,759
Speaker 1: to move on. But I feel like that kind of

1008
00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:00,439
Speaker 1: has taken a bit of a life of its own.

1009
00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:03,200
Speaker 1: This idea that John Gruden has to he needs to

1010
00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:08,000
Speaker 1: get out of this marriage with car and from Mariota's perspective, uh,

1011
00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:10,160
Speaker 1: I think this is a good landing spot for him.

1012
00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:12,439
Speaker 1: You know, it's kind of a similar like every guy

1013
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:16,920
Speaker 1: that but I'm saying like if you're a if you're

1014
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:20,600
Speaker 1: a former starter, that's that lost your job. Ryan's Hannehills.

1015
00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:22,640
Speaker 1: Now the ultimate benchmark of what you want to try

1016
00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:25,560
Speaker 1: to set up yourself to do to to rebrand yourself.

1017
00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:28,120
Speaker 1: He is in a similar situation here where he can

1018
00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:31,920
Speaker 1: overtake the starter with a team and start his career fresh.

1019
00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:33,760
Speaker 1: So it feels like a good landing spot from Mariota.

1020
00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:36,640
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, some of that with Derek Carr. That's

1021
00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:39,440
Speaker 1: a good point, Dan, that we're assuming so much. But

1022
00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:42,279
Speaker 1: some of it is just the way John Gruden has

1023
00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:45,879
Speaker 1: had his quarterback play. He doesn't show trust in him

1024
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:49,280
Speaker 1: to throw down the field. He has a run first offense.

1025
00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:52,160
Speaker 1: It's based around Jacobs now and not the quarterback. So

1026
00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:55,279
Speaker 1: I think that's where a lot of the doubt comes into. Yeah,

1027
00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:58,440
Speaker 1: and if and and and they're chasing after Tom Brady.

1028
00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:01,640
Speaker 1: I mean it's like they're actually this is a relationship.

1029
00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:05,799
Speaker 1: He is looking to upgrade and find someone better for

1030
00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:09,040
Speaker 1: himself if you're John Bruden. So to me, that breaks

1031
00:55:09,080 --> 00:55:12,239
Speaker 1: the seal of he and Derek Carr have this, you know,

1032
00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:16,440
Speaker 1: impenetrable relationship. I think it's I don't think that either,

1033
00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:18,600
Speaker 1: but I know, I know, But I just life of

1034
00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:21,080
Speaker 1: its own. That's fair because all these all these narratives

1035
00:55:21,120 --> 00:55:23,880
Speaker 1: take on a life of their own. But I'm even

1036
00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:26,000
Speaker 1: going back to hard knocks. I just don't they don't.

1037
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:28,200
Speaker 1: They don't feel like two p's in a pod. But

1038
00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:30,560
Speaker 1: that's what I mean, Like that was that was fun assumption.

1039
00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:33,040
Speaker 1: I I wrote about it extensively on NFL dot Com

1040
00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:36,280
Speaker 1: that it didn't seem like they were like natural fits.

1041
00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:39,120
Speaker 1: But that's all just kind of fun speculation. Anyway, We'll

1042
00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:42,239
Speaker 1: have plenty of time to dig into that relationship because

1043
00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:44,680
Speaker 1: it looks like it may continue, but who knows, maybe

1044
00:55:44,719 --> 00:55:47,040
Speaker 1: it doesn't. All right, let's move on another team. So

1045
00:55:47,040 --> 00:55:49,759
Speaker 1: I mentioned the Cults is a team that really did

1046
00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:53,400
Speaker 1: stand out as a quote unquote favorite to win the

1047
00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:56,600
Speaker 1: quote unquote offseason. Another team that made a lot of

1048
00:55:56,640 --> 00:56:00,000
Speaker 1: sense is the Miami Dolphins for obvious reasons. The ross

1049
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:04,000
Speaker 1: they're filled with holes, a tank job where they acquired

1050
00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:06,920
Speaker 1: a ton of draft picks, including three first rounders, and

1051
00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:09,200
Speaker 1: had the most cap space in the league. So it

1052
00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:11,560
Speaker 1: was not a surprise that they made a big splash

1053
00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:14,360
Speaker 1: on Monday. So let's just go through it. We'll start

1054
00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:19,400
Speaker 1: with Byron Jones, Uh, the former Cowboys cornerback. He signed

1055
00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:22,320
Speaker 1: agreed to terms. Of course, everything was agreed until the

1056
00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:26,600
Speaker 1: league year is official, uh, which happens on Wednesday. They

1057
00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:29,319
Speaker 1: agree to terms with Byron Jones that will on a

1058
00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:32,000
Speaker 1: contract that will make him the highest paid cornerback in

1059
00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:35,120
Speaker 1: the NFL. We're talking five years, eighty two and a

1060
00:56:35,160 --> 00:56:40,400
Speaker 1: half million, including fifty seven million guaranteed forty million in

1061
00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:44,800
Speaker 1: the first two years. Uh that is borderline quarterback money.

1062
00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:48,359
Speaker 1: And uh, Greg, this is a major piece for this team.

1063
00:56:48,520 --> 00:56:50,480
Speaker 1: It is. I like Byron Jones. I thought he was

1064
00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:52,520
Speaker 1: one of the more underrated guys in this entire free

1065
00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:55,480
Speaker 1: agency market. He's now, you know, according to average value,

1066
00:56:55,480 --> 00:56:57,560
Speaker 1: the highest paid cornerback in the league. But I think

1067
00:56:57,640 --> 00:57:01,240
Speaker 1: all of these numbers are gonna get passed pretty quickly.

1068
00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:04,080
Speaker 1: And he's a signing that makes sense to me. Kyle

1069
00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:07,239
Speaker 1: Vannoi four years for fifty one million to Miami and

1070
00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:12,200
Speaker 1: then signing a couple of of of disappointing former first

1071
00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:16,240
Speaker 1: round picks Eric Flowers and Shack Mowson to three year,

1072
00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:19,720
Speaker 1: thirty million dollar contracts, to me, were like the among

1073
00:57:19,800 --> 00:57:23,640
Speaker 1: the biggest head scratchers of the entire day. And if

1074
00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:26,720
Speaker 1: I was Dolphins fan, like thinking, Okay, it's time to

1075
00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:29,560
Speaker 1: like start jumping back in and like the the rebuild

1076
00:57:29,640 --> 00:57:32,920
Speaker 1: is kind of ending now. If other than Jones, that

1077
00:57:33,160 --> 00:57:35,640
Speaker 1: felt a little a little weird, although Van Noyd played

1078
00:57:35,640 --> 00:57:38,000
Speaker 1: really well for the Patriots last year. Yeah, I mean

1079
00:57:38,120 --> 00:57:42,280
Speaker 1: Eric Flowers five years in the league has never graded

1080
00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:46,160
Speaker 1: above a negative deep in the red negative ten point

1081
00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:50,960
Speaker 1: three from PFF and and his other four seasons were

1082
00:57:51,080 --> 00:57:55,680
Speaker 1: significantly worse. And so this is this strikes me as

1083
00:57:55,720 --> 00:57:59,080
Speaker 1: something that the Dolphins regimes of old would have done,

1084
00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:02,040
Speaker 1: where we're just gonna sign someone for a ton of money,

1085
00:58:02,520 --> 00:58:04,600
Speaker 1: ignore what he's been on tape and who he is,

1086
00:58:04,840 --> 00:58:06,960
Speaker 1: and sell it to you. Is that we've solved like

1087
00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:10,000
Speaker 1: an offensive line issue. I'm a little surprised that this

1088
00:58:10,680 --> 00:58:14,520
Speaker 1: Miami front office, uh amid, you know what would it

1089
00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:18,880
Speaker 1: seems like smarter moves, more patient moves, calculated moves and

1090
00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:21,920
Speaker 1: building for the future. Look at Eric Flowers as a

1091
00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:25,200
Speaker 1: big solution. Now that was it should In fairness to Flowers,

1092
00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:29,680
Speaker 1: he really did at least um rectify or kind of

1093
00:58:29,720 --> 00:58:31,960
Speaker 1: rebuild his career a little bit last year moving from

1094
00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:39,640
Speaker 1: tackle he was he was average well that but I'm

1095
00:58:39,680 --> 00:58:43,000
Speaker 1: saying according to ESPN stats and information, he had a

1096
00:58:43,040 --> 00:58:48,880
Speaker 1: career high pass block win rate, pass block win rate

1097
00:58:50,320 --> 00:58:53,520
Speaker 1: and two seventeen. So a guy that changed positions improved

1098
00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:55,160
Speaker 1: a little bit. Now, I don't disagree with you. I

1099
00:58:55,160 --> 00:58:58,000
Speaker 1: think that sounds like they're throwing money at guys uh

1100
00:58:58,040 --> 00:59:01,760
Speaker 1: to upgrade what was an absolutely horrific offensive line. Will

1101
00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:04,320
Speaker 1: Flowers be an upgrade, That's what they're hoping, and I

1102
00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:06,640
Speaker 1: guess they didn't hand out major money, so they could

1103
00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:10,160
Speaker 1: probably survive if he doesn't work out. I mean, three

1104
00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:12,720
Speaker 1: years thirty million doesn't seem like a ton of money.

1105
00:59:13,720 --> 00:59:15,680
Speaker 1: It's fun to do what the Redskins did, get him

1106
00:59:15,720 --> 00:59:19,000
Speaker 1: for free, switch him from tackle the guard, and then

1107
00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:20,600
Speaker 1: get a good season out of him. It's not so

1108
00:59:20,680 --> 00:59:22,480
Speaker 1: fun to overpay for him on the first day of

1109
00:59:22,520 --> 00:59:25,720
Speaker 1: free agency when he's the kind of reclamation project you

1110
00:59:25,720 --> 00:59:28,600
Speaker 1: look for a team to sign in April, right Like

1111
00:59:29,080 --> 00:59:32,760
Speaker 1: Eric Flowers had basically half a good season, Shack Lawson

1112
00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:35,000
Speaker 1: had about half a good season out of four or

1113
00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:37,040
Speaker 1: five years of being a bus and then he gets

1114
00:59:37,040 --> 00:59:39,320
Speaker 1: paid because he was a first round pick. It's kind

1115
00:59:39,320 --> 00:59:40,960
Speaker 1: of like you want to get Van Noy when the

1116
00:59:41,000 --> 00:59:43,760
Speaker 1: Patriots got him for virtually nothing and then they resigned

1117
00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:46,800
Speaker 1: him for three or four years. I think Vanoy still

1118
00:59:46,800 --> 00:59:48,440
Speaker 1: has a lot of good football left in him. He's

1119
00:59:48,440 --> 00:59:50,800
Speaker 1: only twenty seven or twenty eight years old. So it's

1120
00:59:50,800 --> 00:59:52,520
Speaker 1: I don't think he's going to be a bus for them,

1121
00:59:52,520 --> 00:59:56,160
Speaker 1: but you're not exactly maximizing value when you kind of

1122
00:59:56,280 --> 00:59:59,000
Speaker 1: pick him up at the at the top of the market.

1123
00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:01,320
Speaker 1: But they're kind of an example too. It's like, you

1124
01:00:01,360 --> 01:00:04,480
Speaker 1: can't you can't kill a team like the Colts last year,

1125
01:00:04,520 --> 01:00:07,600
Speaker 1: for example, for not being active in free agency despite

1126
01:00:07,600 --> 01:00:09,440
Speaker 1: having a lot of money, and then get on a

1127
01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:12,200
Speaker 1: team for using all their money to try to improve

1128
01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:15,080
Speaker 1: the team aggressively, even if some of the signings might

1129
01:00:15,120 --> 01:00:17,600
Speaker 1: seem suspect on paper. It's kind of like you're you're

1130
01:00:17,640 --> 01:00:19,920
Speaker 1: damned if you do, damned if you don't. At this stage,

1131
01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:29,880
Speaker 1: when other franchise tag stuff, a J. Green is tagged

1132
01:00:29,920 --> 01:00:33,920
Speaker 1: by the Bengals, we all knew that was happening. And

1133
01:00:34,200 --> 01:00:39,800
Speaker 1: the Titans, after signing Ryan Tannehill to that multi year extension,

1134
01:00:40,040 --> 01:00:42,680
Speaker 1: they slapped Derrick Henry with the tag, and as I said,

1135
01:00:43,200 --> 01:00:47,720
Speaker 1: tricky situation. Derrick Henry, who has uh coming off a season,

1136
01:00:47,760 --> 01:00:49,760
Speaker 1: really a season and a half where he was arguably

1137
01:00:50,200 --> 01:00:52,360
Speaker 1: as good as anybody in football at the position and

1138
01:00:52,440 --> 01:00:55,640
Speaker 1: just carried this organization on his back just twenty six

1139
01:00:55,760 --> 01:00:58,840
Speaker 1: years old. He is potentially in line to play on

1140
01:00:58,880 --> 01:01:02,760
Speaker 1: a ten million dollar on tracked this year, because that

1141
01:01:02,920 --> 01:01:06,240
Speaker 1: is the plight of the National Football League running back

1142
01:01:06,320 --> 01:01:11,920
Speaker 1: in the ties. He's doing better than Melvin Gordon. I mean,

1143
01:01:11,920 --> 01:01:14,080
Speaker 1: Melvin Gordon is going to be looking at Kenyan Drake

1144
01:01:14,120 --> 01:01:16,520
Speaker 1: and thinking like, I wish I could make that kind

1145
01:01:16,520 --> 01:01:21,760
Speaker 1: of money. It's crazy. Let's move on to Mark's team,

1146
01:01:21,840 --> 01:01:24,840
Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns, who were very active. Another team with

1147
01:01:24,920 --> 01:01:27,440
Speaker 1: salary cap space and some holes to fill, looking to

1148
01:01:27,720 --> 01:01:31,880
Speaker 1: improve on last year's disappointment. They address their offensive line

1149
01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:35,840
Speaker 1: and they signed Jack Conklin Uh, formerly of the Titans.

1150
01:01:36,080 --> 01:01:39,680
Speaker 1: Uh It is a three year, forty two million dollar deal.

1151
01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:43,960
Speaker 1: According to ESPN, he was viewed as the top tackle

1152
01:01:44,080 --> 01:01:47,240
Speaker 1: on the market. He's a right tackle. The Browns, Mark

1153
01:01:47,320 --> 01:01:49,360
Speaker 1: have a lot of work to do on that line.

1154
01:01:49,400 --> 01:01:52,919
Speaker 1: You assume picking ten overall that they might go after

1155
01:01:52,960 --> 01:01:55,920
Speaker 1: one of those top tackles in the draft class two.

1156
01:01:56,200 --> 01:01:58,600
Speaker 1: So they are making moves. And they also went out

1157
01:01:58,840 --> 01:02:01,640
Speaker 1: and spent a lot of money on tight end Austin Cooper,

1158
01:02:01,720 --> 01:02:05,640
Speaker 1: bringing him in Uh from the Falcons as a free agent.

1159
01:02:05,680 --> 01:02:07,760
Speaker 1: He is now the highest paid tight end in the league.

1160
01:02:08,160 --> 01:02:10,040
Speaker 1: And I will say this Mark because I tee you

1161
01:02:10,160 --> 01:02:13,560
Speaker 1: up here that Um, you and I both a very

1162
01:02:13,560 --> 01:02:17,320
Speaker 1: similar situations that we have young quarterbacks entering their third

1163
01:02:17,400 --> 01:02:20,360
Speaker 1: years and it's an important year for them in their development.

1164
01:02:20,720 --> 01:02:24,040
Speaker 1: Give them their best, the best chance possible to improve

1165
01:02:24,200 --> 01:02:27,080
Speaker 1: and take the next step. And I think Day one

1166
01:02:27,200 --> 01:02:29,400
Speaker 1: is a success for the Browns because they're addressing the

1167
01:02:29,440 --> 01:02:33,400
Speaker 1: line and they've added another weapon for Baker Mayfield. Yeah.

1168
01:02:33,440 --> 01:02:36,720
Speaker 1: I think if you look at last year's tackles in Cleveland,

1169
01:02:36,720 --> 01:02:40,040
Speaker 1: they were ranked as see third worst group in the

1170
01:02:40,160 --> 01:02:43,920
Speaker 1: in the NFL in all aspects that they was. It

1171
01:02:44,000 --> 01:02:47,960
Speaker 1: was a large um disaster that you could see right

1172
01:02:47,960 --> 01:02:49,880
Speaker 1: away in Week one when they were blown out by

1173
01:02:49,880 --> 01:02:52,120
Speaker 1: the Titans, and you could tell that something was ill

1174
01:02:52,520 --> 01:02:55,480
Speaker 1: with that Cleveland team off the bat, and they needed

1175
01:02:55,480 --> 01:02:58,720
Speaker 1: two tackles they needed too. So I have no problem

1176
01:02:58,760 --> 01:03:02,760
Speaker 1: with UH spending whatever it took to get a proven

1177
01:03:02,840 --> 01:03:05,600
Speaker 1: veteran and then probably using the other pick at number

1178
01:03:05,640 --> 01:03:08,560
Speaker 1: ten to get the best possible left tackle because Conklin

1179
01:03:08,600 --> 01:03:12,440
Speaker 1: will play the right side and he's been an awesome

1180
01:03:12,920 --> 01:03:16,840
Speaker 1: run blocking UH right tackle with the Titans. And I

1181
01:03:16,880 --> 01:03:19,360
Speaker 1: think that that Cleveland, if anything, wants to be with

1182
01:03:19,480 --> 01:03:21,920
Speaker 1: Nick Chubb and they and they you know they tendered

1183
01:03:22,480 --> 01:03:24,240
Speaker 1: Kareem Hunt as well. I think they're going to go

1184
01:03:24,560 --> 01:03:27,760
Speaker 1: forward with using both those guys um in a way

1185
01:03:27,800 --> 01:03:29,720
Speaker 1: that if you look at what Kevin Stefanski did in

1186
01:03:29,760 --> 01:03:32,600
Speaker 1: Minnesota and they've added another tight end, it's gonna it's

1187
01:03:32,600 --> 01:03:35,840
Speaker 1: gonna duplicate in theory what the Vikings did in some

1188
01:03:35,920 --> 01:03:39,360
Speaker 1: of their better performances. The Hooper contract to me um

1189
01:03:40,160 --> 01:03:42,400
Speaker 1: for me, I like, I don't get caught up in this.

1190
01:03:42,880 --> 01:03:45,480
Speaker 1: We paid this person too much or not because it

1191
01:03:45,560 --> 01:03:49,320
Speaker 1: never touches me. And Cleveland has been vastly under the

1192
01:03:49,360 --> 01:03:52,400
Speaker 1: cap every season almost. They're never one of these if

1193
01:03:52,440 --> 01:03:55,520
Speaker 1: you go into over the cap, they're never hugging that

1194
01:03:55,600 --> 01:03:58,360
Speaker 1: number at all. They're always making moves to get way under.

1195
01:03:58,400 --> 01:04:02,880
Speaker 1: So get is any weapons and protection around your young quarterback.

1196
01:04:03,000 --> 01:04:06,000
Speaker 1: To your point, Dan, I'm fine with both moves. Um.

1197
01:04:06,680 --> 01:04:09,160
Speaker 1: If you want to dig into Hooper, he's probably not

1198
01:04:09,560 --> 01:04:12,280
Speaker 1: anywhere close to being the best tight end in the league.

1199
01:04:12,320 --> 01:04:14,680
Speaker 1: But but that's what free agency does. It just lit

1200
01:04:14,840 --> 01:04:17,440
Speaker 1: hires the value of these guys that would are not

1201
01:04:17,520 --> 01:04:20,080
Speaker 1: being paid exactly where they should be. If he wanted

1202
01:04:20,120 --> 01:04:21,760
Speaker 1: to tear them. I think Hooper is one of the

1203
01:04:21,760 --> 01:04:25,000
Speaker 1: most mis evaluated guys. Everybody's been waiting to kill whatever

1204
01:04:25,040 --> 01:04:27,760
Speaker 1: team signs him as if he's not good. Is he

1205
01:04:27,800 --> 01:04:31,120
Speaker 1: as dynamic as Kiddo and Kelsey. No, but he averaged

1206
01:04:31,160 --> 01:04:33,680
Speaker 1: his many yards per game as zach Ertz. Last year.

1207
01:04:33,840 --> 01:04:37,080
Speaker 1: He averaged more yards per game than Mark Andrews Uh

1208
01:04:37,200 --> 01:04:38,840
Speaker 1: going back to his rookie year. This is a guy

1209
01:04:38,840 --> 01:04:41,920
Speaker 1: who's shown some separation ability, He's shown some red zone ability.

1210
01:04:42,320 --> 01:04:45,360
Speaker 1: Nobody's claiming he's dynamic, but he's a very good tight

1211
01:04:45,520 --> 01:04:47,320
Speaker 1: end in the prime of his career. I have no

1212
01:04:47,400 --> 01:04:52,040
Speaker 1: problem with that signing. The Atlanta Falcons wasted no time

1213
01:04:52,720 --> 01:04:58,120
Speaker 1: filling the whole left by Austin Hooper. They trade Uh

1214
01:04:58,160 --> 01:05:01,400
Speaker 1: for Hayden Hurst, the four her first round pick of

1215
01:05:01,440 --> 01:05:06,000
Speaker 1: the Ravens. So the Ravens send Hearst and a round

1216
01:05:06,000 --> 01:05:10,000
Speaker 1: pick to the Falcons in return for Atlanta's second and

1217
01:05:10,080 --> 01:05:14,360
Speaker 1: fifth round picks in April of this month. So now

1218
01:05:14,440 --> 01:05:18,160
Speaker 1: Hearst is a guy who um deal with some injuries.

1219
01:05:18,600 --> 01:05:21,080
Speaker 1: Is it's a it's a tight end group, Greg that

1220
01:05:21,160 --> 01:05:23,760
Speaker 1: is just filled with guys that can make plays. So

1221
01:05:23,800 --> 01:05:25,440
Speaker 1: he kind of got lost in the mix a little bit,

1222
01:05:25,440 --> 01:05:27,520
Speaker 1: but he still was able to produce a little bit

1223
01:05:27,560 --> 01:05:30,040
Speaker 1: last year, and he seems like a guy that could

1224
01:05:30,080 --> 01:05:32,280
Speaker 1: be a nice pick up for Atlanta, especially put him

1225
01:05:32,320 --> 01:05:34,760
Speaker 1: in that offense with a great quarterback like Matt Ryan

1226
01:05:34,960 --> 01:05:37,480
Speaker 1: and other playmakers in the fold there. Yeah, it wouldn't

1227
01:05:37,480 --> 01:05:40,400
Speaker 1: surprise me if he has really good numbers he flashed.

1228
01:05:40,480 --> 01:05:43,240
Speaker 1: I mean, if he stays healthy. He is a guy

1229
01:05:43,280 --> 01:05:45,920
Speaker 1: I think that can make plays. That's a perfect situation.

1230
01:05:45,920 --> 01:05:48,000
Speaker 1: You're not going to get double team there. It's a

1231
01:05:48,000 --> 01:05:51,240
Speaker 1: good scheme. He's older than Austin Hooper, so it's not

1232
01:05:51,480 --> 01:05:53,880
Speaker 1: even though he's in his rookie contract. You know, I

1233
01:05:53,920 --> 01:05:57,240
Speaker 1: think it's still a downgrade for sure. But they gave

1234
01:05:57,320 --> 01:06:00,360
Speaker 1: up a lot. I mean they gave up basically what

1235
01:06:00,560 --> 01:06:04,840
Speaker 1: the you know, Cardinals gave up for DeAndre Hopkins second

1236
01:06:04,920 --> 01:06:07,680
Speaker 1: round pick. So it's not like like Hayden Hurst like

1237
01:06:07,800 --> 01:06:10,479
Speaker 1: came at a huge discount. He was a first round

1238
01:06:10,480 --> 01:06:13,640
Speaker 1: pick who went for a second round pick. And it's

1239
01:06:13,680 --> 01:06:16,800
Speaker 1: a crazy day in Atlanta. They they're cutting Desmond truffont

1240
01:06:16,920 --> 01:06:20,480
Speaker 1: is one of their best players over the last few years.

1241
01:06:20,520 --> 01:06:23,400
Speaker 1: They cut DeVante Freeman, and you just think about how

1242
01:06:23,400 --> 01:06:28,360
Speaker 1: many players are left from that Super Bowl team. It's gone.

1243
01:06:28,760 --> 01:06:31,600
Speaker 1: I mean, they're they're a team in transition. Two back

1244
01:06:31,640 --> 01:06:33,880
Speaker 1: to back bad years and just you know, at least

1245
01:06:33,880 --> 01:06:36,840
Speaker 1: so far talent base wise, it seems like they're taking

1246
01:06:36,880 --> 01:06:39,600
Speaker 1: a step back this offseason. When we talk about Levy

1247
01:06:39,600 --> 01:06:41,760
Speaker 1: on Bell and that that he was a big signing

1248
01:06:41,840 --> 01:06:44,320
Speaker 1: last year in free agency didn't work out in year

1249
01:06:44,400 --> 01:06:47,320
Speaker 1: one with the Jets. DeVonta Freeman is another example of

1250
01:06:47,360 --> 01:06:49,720
Speaker 1: why it's it's always buy or be aware with these

1251
01:06:49,800 --> 01:06:51,880
Speaker 1: running backs. He's a guy that's a bowling ball type.

1252
01:06:51,880 --> 01:06:54,080
Speaker 1: Guy took up a lot of abuse. It wasn't so

1253
01:06:54,160 --> 01:06:55,680
Speaker 1: long ago when the Falcons and the Only won the

1254
01:06:55,680 --> 01:06:59,479
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. In seen he had over fift hundred total

1255
01:06:59,560 --> 01:07:03,520
Speaker 1: yards a team touchdowns. Uh, he had um back to

1256
01:07:03,560 --> 01:07:06,680
Speaker 1: back one thousand yards seasons. But then he couldn't stay healthy.

1257
01:07:06,680 --> 01:07:08,680
Speaker 1: And then last year, as West you pointed out throughout

1258
01:07:08,760 --> 01:07:11,720
Speaker 1: the season, just was a step slow. Couldn't guy couldn't make,

1259
01:07:11,720 --> 01:07:15,240
Speaker 1: Guys missed, didn't have that same dynamic playmaking ability. Mamas,

1260
01:07:15,240 --> 01:07:17,240
Speaker 1: don't let your babies grow up to be running backs.

1261
01:07:17,800 --> 01:07:20,400
Speaker 1: I mean, I understand why everybody is saying they should

1262
01:07:20,440 --> 01:07:23,400
Speaker 1: be paid more. But at the same time, like this

1263
01:07:23,480 --> 01:07:27,720
Speaker 1: is natural selection at work. Nobody cares that. Nobody cares

1264
01:07:27,720 --> 01:07:31,040
Speaker 1: that fullbacks don't get paid anymore. I mean if they

1265
01:07:31,080 --> 01:07:34,880
Speaker 1: just aren't used as much. Right, Like I feel bad

1266
01:07:34,920 --> 01:07:37,240
Speaker 1: for Derrick Henry, but those player There's been a lot

1267
01:07:37,280 --> 01:07:40,040
Speaker 1: of players like pointing out how Tannehill is getting so

1268
01:07:40,120 --> 01:07:42,280
Speaker 1: much money when Henry carried him. It's like, if I'm

1269
01:07:42,280 --> 01:07:45,840
Speaker 1: the Titans, I'm loving that franchise tag because no one's

1270
01:07:45,840 --> 01:07:49,000
Speaker 1: gonna be mad at me for giving up on Derrick Henry. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And like a year from now, if Derrick Henry doesn't

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01:07:51,520 --> 01:07:54,880
Speaker 1: look the same, which is very possible after having four touches,

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01:07:54,920 --> 01:07:56,960
Speaker 1: like they'll just let him go and no one on mine.

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Speaker 1: Um a few more fran chise tag franch franchise tags.

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Speaker 1: Anthony Harris and the Vikings are on a franchise tag

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01:08:05,520 --> 01:08:08,560
Speaker 1: relationship right now. The safety will make eleven and a

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Speaker 1: half million. Leonard Williams of the Giants. We talked about

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Speaker 1: it last week that it would not be a great

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Speaker 1: look for Dave Gentleman if he gave up uh some

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01:08:16,160 --> 01:08:18,240
Speaker 1: good draft picks to get Leonard Williams for a half

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01:08:18,280 --> 01:08:20,479
Speaker 1: season rental and then let him go. Well, he's not

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01:08:20,520 --> 01:08:23,880
Speaker 1: going to It looks like franchise tag on the defensive tackle.

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01:08:23,960 --> 01:08:28,280
Speaker 1: The Steelers placed the franchise tag on linebacker Bud Dupree.

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Speaker 1: Any thoughts on those gentlemen. Yeah, I think Leonard Williams

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01:08:32,120 --> 01:08:35,800
Speaker 1: I understand the potential, but you're franchise tagging in because

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01:08:35,840 --> 01:08:37,760
Speaker 1: your wish casting that he's the player you thought he

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01:08:37,920 --> 01:08:41,519
Speaker 1: was when he was coming out of USC. There's this

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01:08:41,600 --> 01:08:43,519
Speaker 1: is not a player that you would think would be

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Speaker 1: franchise tag. The production just isn't there. I think he's

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Speaker 1: one of the least impressive franchise tag guys we've seen.

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Speaker 1: M hmm, let's hit some eight o'clock to light. The

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01:08:55,280 --> 01:08:58,599
Speaker 1: Ravens agree with defensive lineman Michael Brockers on a deal.

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01:08:58,680 --> 01:09:01,800
Speaker 1: Who loves it? Who hates it? Want extremes? This is

1294
01:09:01,840 --> 01:09:03,960
Speaker 1: like the arms race in nineteen eighties n b A.

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01:09:04,080 --> 01:09:07,439
Speaker 1: You see the Celtics have Michael and Parish, so then

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01:09:07,479 --> 01:09:10,120
Speaker 1: the Rockets get Samson and the law Joan, and then

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01:09:10,120 --> 01:09:13,080
Speaker 1: the Lakers had to get Michael Thompson to go with Kareem.

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01:09:13,120 --> 01:09:15,639
Speaker 1: Everybody's trying to stop Patrick Mahomes now and you get

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01:09:15,640 --> 01:09:19,160
Speaker 1: these twin Towers with the Ravens. So the Saints put

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01:09:19,160 --> 01:09:22,240
Speaker 1: a first round tender on Taysom Hill. That was expected,

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01:09:22,320 --> 01:09:26,320
Speaker 1: it happened. Sessler's excited. I love it. I mean exactly.

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01:09:26,320 --> 01:09:29,599
Speaker 1: It's always The Saints have not lied about Taysom Hill

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01:09:29,640 --> 01:09:31,880
Speaker 1: all along. It said they love him, and they showed it.

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01:09:33,560 --> 01:09:37,880
Speaker 1: Nick Kayakowski to the Raiders, don't know him. Greg filled me, a, oh,

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01:09:38,000 --> 01:09:41,360
Speaker 1: he's Wesseley rib there and West has been vindicated by

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01:09:41,439 --> 01:09:43,880
Speaker 1: ranking and Ohio on the top one O one West

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01:09:43,960 --> 01:09:46,680
Speaker 1: and Mike, Yeah, I got the thing. Take board correction.

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01:09:46,760 --> 01:09:49,400
Speaker 1: I've been calling him quiet Kowski because he reminds me

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01:09:49,479 --> 01:09:51,600
Speaker 1: of this might go back to when Gregg was a

1310
01:09:51,600 --> 01:09:57,360
Speaker 1: college basketball fan Nebraska sharpshooter Eric Kowsky, but he's really

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01:09:57,360 --> 01:10:00,840
Speaker 1: pronounced quick Kowsky. The Jets from can Loves on their

1312
01:10:00,840 --> 01:10:05,320
Speaker 1: offensive line. They add former Seahawks office tackle George Fants,

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01:10:05,720 --> 01:10:09,160
Speaker 1: another thirty million, three year deal. Man. He's a guy

1314
01:10:09,160 --> 01:10:13,160
Speaker 1: that people are buzzing about. Get the Vets into the show.

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01:10:13,560 --> 01:10:15,880
Speaker 1: There's no way fan signing would make it if it

1316
01:10:15,960 --> 01:10:21,799
Speaker 1: was with the Texans or something. This is behavioral science

1317
01:10:21,840 --> 01:10:25,000
Speaker 1: at work. Every time the Seahawks played him at left tackle,

1318
01:10:25,080 --> 01:10:26,800
Speaker 1: they had to bench him a couple of games later.

1319
01:10:27,080 --> 01:10:29,040
Speaker 1: Every time they use him as a sick lineman. They

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01:10:29,040 --> 01:10:31,760
Speaker 1: liked what they saw. Yeah, you guys know more than

1321
01:10:31,840 --> 01:10:39,160
Speaker 1: Joe Douglas. Whatever. The Seahawks, the Lions. I like George Fan.

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01:10:39,240 --> 01:10:43,040
Speaker 1: I'm gonna George Fan Jersey. Yea. Lions are signing former

1323
01:10:43,080 --> 01:10:48,599
Speaker 1: Patriots linebacker Jamie Collins. Rap Sheet reports that's a new one.

1324
01:10:48,640 --> 01:10:53,040
Speaker 1: Also giving big news to Halle you know my guy

1325
01:10:53,080 --> 01:10:55,120
Speaker 1: in by time, big V not even gonna go with

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01:10:55,160 --> 01:10:58,559
Speaker 1: the first name. It's a very Lion's day signing Jamie Collins.

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01:10:58,600 --> 01:11:02,880
Speaker 1: Inside the Packers land Christian Curtsy to the mix that

1328
01:11:02,920 --> 01:11:06,200
Speaker 1: will solve everything. Did he stays healthy? I mean, I

1329
01:11:06,240 --> 01:11:10,120
Speaker 1: think you know he's he also was one of the linebackers,

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01:11:10,160 --> 01:11:13,200
Speaker 1: and I you know, he's on Cleveland's defense for most

1331
01:11:13,320 --> 01:11:15,559
Speaker 1: draw all of his career, and he led the NFL

1332
01:11:15,600 --> 01:11:18,280
Speaker 1: and tackles one or a few seasons. But sometimes that's

1333
01:11:18,280 --> 01:11:21,679
Speaker 1: not a great sign, Like it's because you know, people

1334
01:11:21,680 --> 01:11:25,160
Speaker 1: are blasting through your defensive line over and over and

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01:11:25,240 --> 01:11:27,880
Speaker 1: Curtsy had to like stack up tackles. He's a good

1336
01:11:27,880 --> 01:11:31,080
Speaker 1: player when he's healthy, but really made like nine starts

1337
01:11:31,120 --> 01:11:34,439
Speaker 1: to last two years. Speaking of the Giants, they add

1338
01:11:34,560 --> 01:11:37,920
Speaker 1: James Bradberry to the secondary. The cornerback gets three years

1339
01:11:38,000 --> 01:11:40,640
Speaker 1: or forty five billion dollars. Once upon a time was

1340
01:11:40,720 --> 01:11:44,120
Speaker 1: the Josh Norman replacement in Carolina. Now he's got some

1341
01:11:44,160 --> 01:11:47,400
Speaker 1: good lap and Ghettoman reunites with him after drafting him

1342
01:11:47,400 --> 01:11:50,439
Speaker 1: in Carolina. He's a guy who tends to cover guys

1343
01:11:50,479 --> 01:11:53,759
Speaker 1: like Mike Evans bigger receivers really well, and then struggles

1344
01:11:53,760 --> 01:11:56,519
Speaker 1: a little bit versus quick and the Chiefs pick up

1345
01:11:56,560 --> 01:11:58,920
Speaker 1: an option on Damian Williams, so they keep him in

1346
01:11:58,920 --> 01:12:02,960
Speaker 1: the mix. And finally the NFL announced that the draft

1347
01:12:03,040 --> 01:12:06,559
Speaker 1: is still on, will still be held in but it

1348
01:12:06,640 --> 01:12:09,160
Speaker 1: is now closed to public. The whole Vegas thing is

1349
01:12:09,200 --> 01:12:11,960
Speaker 1: blown to smith reens and it could be something as

1350
01:12:12,000 --> 01:12:15,639
Speaker 1: simple rap sheet reported on Network Today as Roger Goodell

1351
01:12:15,760 --> 01:12:18,439
Speaker 1: sitting in front of a camera making the announcements. But

1352
01:12:18,560 --> 01:12:21,120
Speaker 1: something tells me they will think of something to blow

1353
01:12:21,160 --> 01:12:25,040
Speaker 1: it out and make it for of a entertaining watch.

1354
01:12:25,120 --> 01:12:27,160
Speaker 1: That will be the attempt they will make, but it

1355
01:12:27,200 --> 01:12:30,320
Speaker 1: will not be huge crowds of Vegas, and damn it

1356
01:12:30,360 --> 01:12:32,080
Speaker 1: would be insane if it was. So. That was the

1357
01:12:32,160 --> 01:12:38,200
Speaker 1: no branding move represent it along with the news that

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01:12:38,280 --> 01:12:43,800
Speaker 1: the NFL um is the lane team activities indefinitely. Today

1359
01:12:44,080 --> 01:12:46,679
Speaker 1: makes me wonder about this rookie class, like you saw

1360
01:12:46,840 --> 01:12:49,719
Speaker 1: in the lockout, how not having options and practice really

1361
01:12:49,760 --> 01:12:53,360
Speaker 1: hurt that rookie class like this where might not be

1362
01:12:53,400 --> 01:12:55,400
Speaker 1: an off season like they're not might not be anything

1363
01:12:55,479 --> 01:12:57,920
Speaker 1: until training game, and that affects like the rookie and

1364
01:12:57,960 --> 01:12:59,840
Speaker 1: in effect, like how the creatings are going to be

1365
01:13:00,720 --> 01:13:02,960
Speaker 1: going in the new team. Don't you know that if

1366
01:13:02,960 --> 01:13:06,000
Speaker 1: you're Tom Brady, make you give you pause about going

1367
01:13:06,040 --> 01:13:09,439
Speaker 1: to Tampa Bay versus I mean like you're gonna go

1368
01:13:09,439 --> 01:13:11,559
Speaker 1: go somewhere else. You're gonna be The NFL is gonna

1369
01:13:11,600 --> 01:13:15,519
Speaker 1: put Tampa Bay on seven national televised games, and you've

1370
01:13:15,560 --> 01:13:18,680
Speaker 1: got like eight, eight or nine days to install an

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01:13:18,680 --> 01:13:21,000
Speaker 1: offense with a bunch of newbies. Good luck with that.

1372
01:13:21,320 --> 01:13:23,680
Speaker 1: Nothing should give Tom Brady pause about going to the

1373
01:13:23,680 --> 01:13:29,360
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Buccaneers. The pirate ship in the stadium wouldn't mean.

1374
01:13:29,479 --> 01:13:31,519
Speaker 1: Part of me just wants to see the world burn

1375
01:13:31,640 --> 01:13:35,080
Speaker 1: and and uh I would root for Tom Brady. Greg.

1376
01:13:35,080 --> 01:13:36,600
Speaker 1: I don't know if you're following the news, but the

1377
01:13:36,640 --> 01:13:39,880
Speaker 1: world is already burning. We don't need more. You're good.

1378
01:13:41,080 --> 01:13:45,080
Speaker 1: We're covered on that end. How about some normalcy, Keith Tommy,

1379
01:13:45,240 --> 01:13:49,320
Speaker 1: keep Tommy in New England, all Erica's friends. They're freaking out.

1380
01:13:49,600 --> 01:13:51,840
Speaker 1: I can't even imagine the text chain, some of the

1381
01:13:51,880 --> 01:13:57,240
Speaker 1: horrific language that's being used in their just defensive talk. Hey,

1382
01:13:57,280 --> 01:14:06,080
Speaker 1: don't stereo tight stereo. I'm trying to some semblance of professionalism.

1383
01:14:06,080 --> 01:14:09,360
Speaker 1: While Walker my Son just starts, you know, they've done

1384
01:14:09,400 --> 01:14:13,479
Speaker 1: a good job. They've done a very good job. You know.

1385
01:14:13,560 --> 01:14:20,960
Speaker 1: A plus, the kids are all right, all right, h Walker?

1386
01:14:21,040 --> 01:14:24,600
Speaker 1: Why did the Bears sign Jimmy Graham? Oh? Yeah, the

1387
01:14:24,640 --> 01:14:29,360
Speaker 1: Bears signed Jimmy Grant Bears. That's a tough day. One

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01:14:29,360 --> 01:14:33,400
Speaker 1: signings made a play in three years Chicago a lot

1389
01:14:33,400 --> 01:14:35,880
Speaker 1: of money too. It's good to be a tight end.

1390
01:14:35,920 --> 01:14:38,320
Speaker 1: Tight ends are getting paid. The Hooper contract looks fine

1391
01:14:38,320 --> 01:14:40,640
Speaker 1: after that Jimmy Graham deal. Yeah, that's nice to be

1392
01:14:40,680 --> 01:14:43,920
Speaker 1: a named brand as well, was David Johnson. That trade

1393
01:14:43,960 --> 01:14:46,040
Speaker 1: also tells you a little bit about how things work

1394
01:14:46,080 --> 01:14:48,960
Speaker 1: in the league. You to think everyone's geniuses running the league.

1395
01:14:49,080 --> 01:14:51,439
Speaker 1: Sometimes it's just like, oh, that guy was awesome on

1396
01:14:51,520 --> 01:14:53,840
Speaker 1: my fantasy team three years ago. He's like, I'll trade

1397
01:14:53,880 --> 01:14:59,320
Speaker 1: for him, you would hope not conversation between Ryan Pace

1398
01:14:59,400 --> 01:15:02,240
Speaker 1: and that ne I'm just saying, like you, the more

1399
01:15:02,320 --> 01:15:04,160
Speaker 1: you kind of get if you get in contact with

1400
01:15:04,200 --> 01:15:07,160
Speaker 1: these people and you follow this league. The problem which

1401
01:15:07,200 --> 01:15:09,880
Speaker 1: makes it so terrifying as the football fans is that

1402
01:15:10,040 --> 01:15:12,880
Speaker 1: sometimes these guys aren't nearly as smart as you hope

1403
01:15:13,000 --> 01:15:16,120
Speaker 1: or wish them to be. That's all no shot against

1404
01:15:16,200 --> 01:15:21,080
Speaker 1: Ryan Pace circles around the league for two decades, right,

1405
01:15:21,080 --> 01:15:23,559
Speaker 1: I think like Ryan Pace mistakenly woke up at like

1406
01:15:23,640 --> 01:15:26,599
Speaker 1: four pm Chicago time, was like I better do something.

1407
01:15:27,479 --> 01:15:29,120
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know what. What was the plan

1408
01:15:29,200 --> 01:15:31,280
Speaker 1: in Chicago? If you're a Bears fan, there was what

1409
01:15:31,400 --> 01:15:34,719
Speaker 1: the one? It was absent of one. Supposedly Nick Foles

1410
01:15:34,800 --> 01:15:38,040
Speaker 1: might be coming. Tune back in on Tuesday. Yeah, we'll

1411
01:15:38,080 --> 01:15:42,639
Speaker 1: be back tomorrow with another rundown of all the action

1412
01:15:42,800 --> 01:15:45,720
Speaker 1: the news and will offer a recap of it all

1413
01:15:46,040 --> 01:15:50,880
Speaker 1: and analysis that will both be trenchant and done with

1414
01:15:50,920 --> 01:15:53,000
Speaker 1: a touch of mirth. That's what we do. And I

1415
01:15:53,040 --> 01:15:54,840
Speaker 1: think a good way to sign off for today's show,

1416
01:15:54,840 --> 01:15:57,200
Speaker 1: because again it is it is good to just talk

1417
01:15:57,240 --> 01:15:59,880
Speaker 1: about football and not think about how the world's on

1418
01:16:00,040 --> 01:16:01,760
Speaker 1: fire right now. You know, we don't want to think

1419
01:16:01,800 --> 01:16:05,320
Speaker 1: about the fact that across the street from NFL Network

1420
01:16:05,400 --> 01:16:07,280
Speaker 1: is a gun shop and there was a line around

1421
01:16:07,320 --> 01:16:10,560
Speaker 1: the block this week. I have enough think about that.

1422
01:16:10,320 --> 01:16:12,920
Speaker 1: That's something I don't like to think about. That disturbed

1423
01:16:12,960 --> 01:16:16,960
Speaker 1: me and has disturbed me ever since that picture. And

1424
01:16:17,000 --> 01:16:19,800
Speaker 1: can I tell you EI there yesterday twice and I

1425
01:16:19,880 --> 01:16:22,599
Speaker 1: drove slowly to see what was going on, and there

1426
01:16:22,680 --> 01:16:29,360
Speaker 1: was no longer a line, but business was booming. My

1427
01:16:29,400 --> 01:16:34,160
Speaker 1: wife has officially broached the topic of us driving to Texas. Uh,

1428
01:16:34,160 --> 01:16:40,160
Speaker 1: And I said, Honey, all due respect. Um, if you're

1429
01:16:40,200 --> 01:16:42,160
Speaker 1: if you're spooked by some of this gun stuff, the

1430
01:16:42,160 --> 01:16:45,360
Speaker 1: people buying guns in in l A. Driving to Texas

1431
01:16:45,479 --> 01:16:48,839
Speaker 1: maybe not the solution to ease your fears about guns

1432
01:16:49,520 --> 01:16:54,120
Speaker 1: to shape. But I understand where she's coming from. It

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01:16:54,280 --> 01:16:57,040
Speaker 1: it's it's a scary time and we're all alone out here.

1434
01:16:57,080 --> 01:16:59,160
Speaker 1: So have you walked her out of the house for

1435
01:16:59,240 --> 01:17:02,760
Speaker 1: this episode as you did last time? No? No, now

1436
01:17:02,920 --> 01:17:04,920
Speaker 1: is her chance to turn the tables. I am now

1437
01:17:04,920 --> 01:17:07,800
Speaker 1: in the garage and when I return now to the home,

1438
01:17:08,120 --> 01:17:11,840
Speaker 1: we'll see if any of the doors are in fact

1439
01:17:11,920 --> 01:17:17,920
Speaker 1: open again a reminder to everyone, a reminder wash your

1440
01:17:17,920 --> 01:17:21,240
Speaker 1: hands and everybody washes the inside, need the outside, you

1441
01:17:21,320 --> 01:17:24,960
Speaker 1: need the cuticles, as West points out rightly. And also

1442
01:17:25,320 --> 01:17:28,200
Speaker 1: if you're you know, among that small segment of the population,

1443
01:17:28,439 --> 01:17:38,320
Speaker 1: get the webbing. And we'll be back Tuesday. And we'll

1444
01:17:38,320 --> 01:17:41,280
Speaker 1: be back Tuesday with more breakdowns of everything. And yes,

1445
01:17:41,360 --> 01:17:43,920
Speaker 1: because we want to keep things light when you're listening

1446
01:17:43,960 --> 01:17:46,840
Speaker 1: to the show, because God knows it's heavy everywhere else.

1447
01:17:47,200 --> 01:17:50,200
Speaker 1: Um Sam Stringfield our runner up in our Connie Fox

1448
01:17:50,520 --> 01:17:54,760
Speaker 1: theme song competition. Uh he wrote another bang or a

1449
01:17:54,800 --> 01:17:59,360
Speaker 1: full song all about Mark Sessler's encounter with a great

1450
01:17:59,400 --> 01:18:04,080
Speaker 1: Peter shre Tiger at the Indianapolis Scouting Combine. Um, the

1451
01:18:04,160 --> 01:18:08,160
Speaker 1: elevator encounter, as we all know, uh, the infamous moment

1452
01:18:08,400 --> 01:18:11,920
Speaker 1: the two men met face to face and uh Sam

1453
01:18:12,080 --> 01:18:14,519
Speaker 1: wrote a song about it and it's quite interesting. So

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01:18:14,840 --> 01:18:18,040
Speaker 1: that's a good way to send us all back into

1455
01:18:18,040 --> 01:18:21,559
Speaker 1: our homes, into the safety of our locked doors. Remember

1456
01:18:21,640 --> 01:18:25,000
Speaker 1: social distancing is important. Anything else, guys, well, it'll be

1457
01:18:25,040 --> 01:18:29,880
Speaker 1: another completely beguiling moment for Peter Schreeger, who's not tracking this.

1458
01:18:30,320 --> 01:18:34,200
Speaker 1: I don't think minute by minute, sou but Stringfield he's

1459
01:18:34,200 --> 01:18:37,840
Speaker 1: a talent. Thanks for listening to multi times. Thanks thanks

1460
01:18:37,880 --> 01:18:40,439
Speaker 1: for listening. To Be Around the NFL Podcast presented by

1461
01:18:40,600 --> 01:18:43,479
Speaker 1: into a Quick Books, official sponsor of the NFL. This

1462
01:18:43,560 --> 01:18:45,760
Speaker 1: is Dan Hanson signing off for the Quiet Store and

1463
01:18:45,800 --> 01:18:49,040
Speaker 1: the Mailman, the Old Boss and Rick Hollywood behind the

1464
01:18:49,080 --> 01:18:54,200
Speaker 1: Glass Springfield take it away, will see you on Tuesday.

1465
01:18:55,640 --> 01:19:02,320
Speaker 1: My perception of time has slowed. Cowboys in a rodeo

1466
01:19:05,000 --> 01:19:15,920
Speaker 1: in this INDI elevate or instead of eight seconds, honorable,

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01:19:17,320 --> 01:19:29,000
Speaker 1: it's eight floors. The streger could have let the door

1468
01:19:29,200 --> 01:19:36,880
Speaker 1: close on him, but decided to let on man talk

1469
01:19:37,080 --> 01:19:46,559
Speaker 1: man to man about what's spent. Circulate and get to

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01:19:46,800 --> 01:19:59,839
Speaker 1: the bottom of this as we listen, Q elevator music,

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01:20:00,080 --> 01:20:20,160
Speaker 1: m H two sree awkward talk. This small brings the

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01:20:20,560 --> 01:20:28,200
Speaker 1: universe to acroll so much unsaid, the need for leather

1473
01:20:29,320 --> 01:20:36,000
Speaker 1: in the football sick? Why has it taken so long

1474
01:20:37,360 --> 01:20:50,080
Speaker 1: for these numbers to change on that wall? Finally we've

1475
01:20:50,160 --> 01:21:04,280
Speaker 1: reached my floor. It's time for me to go at

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01:21:05,960 --> 01:21:27,040
Speaker 1: two the hall. Sir, So you say ye I love you?

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01:21:27,120 --> 01:21:59,400
Speaker 1: Barrol M quite a second? What I just say? Nine, ten, eleven, twelve, fourteen, fifteen, sixteen, fifteen,

1478
01:22:00,400 --> 01:22:07,440
Speaker 1: I'll replay miss right in my mind a thousand times,

1479
01:22:08,120 --> 01:22:12,120
Speaker 1: trying to decide of what I said was right. Yess,

1480
01:22:12,120 --> 01:22:19,760
Speaker 1: I'll be taking stairs the rest of the combine. Let

1481
01:22:19,840 --> 01:22:20,200
Speaker 1: me wrong.