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Speaker 1: Thank you for coming back. Part two is underway.

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Speaker 2: You you mentioned you like Austin, but obviously Memphis is barbecue,

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Speaker 2: Kansas City barbecue.

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Speaker 1: You have North Carolina.

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Speaker 2: Uh if you had to, if you had to say

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Speaker 2: what city would you you say Austin Memphis? Uh? North

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Speaker 2: Carolina is not a city, It's a state. But what

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Speaker 2: what do you what? What place do you think if

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Speaker 2: I said, okay, give me a Mott Rushmore barbecue barbecue.

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Speaker 3: Places off Austin Memphis, and uh think you what was that?

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Speaker 3: South Carolina?

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Speaker 2: South Carolina Barbecue?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, they got some good care, they got some

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Speaker 3: good barbecue. Met a lot of good pit masters from

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Speaker 3: out there as well.

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Speaker 1: M do do they do? They share secrets?

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Speaker 3: Uh? So, some just a little they you know, tell

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Speaker 3: you you know. Some give you some secrets and stuff.

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Speaker 2: I just I.

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Speaker 3: Whatever people want to know, I can tell them. Right.

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Speaker 3: You know what you wanna know, I'll tell you.

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Speaker 2: Is a situation like when you chase barbecue, you try

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Speaker 2: to figure out what they've done to it, Like you.

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Speaker 1: Know how long?

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Speaker 2: You know? Man, I think they probably probably let this

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Speaker 2: cook like ten twelve hours. They probably did this, They

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Speaker 2: probably brinded, they probably god this You know such and such.

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Speaker 3: I just like the taste of to see if it's

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Speaker 3: better than mine. But uh, I didn't have some good barbecue.

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Speaker 3: And I'm not gonna lie really good barbecue, and uh,

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Speaker 3: I'm like, I gotta step my game up here. But

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Speaker 3: I still I still, uh, I'm right there with him.

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Speaker 3: I actually did the National Barbecue UH Contest for the

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Speaker 3: first time and uh July and June and I won.

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Speaker 3: I won fifth and uh breasket and six and chicken Wow,

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Speaker 3: first time. That was a win for me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah cause and now you hook, now you hook?

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Speaker 3: Yeah. And I went up against like popular guys, like

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Speaker 3: it was real pit like, yeah, I'm a pit master,

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Speaker 3: but it was like some of the guys I look

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Speaker 3: up to in the contest, and I beat some of them,

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Speaker 3: and I was like, oh my god, I can't believe

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Speaker 3: I beat this person. Mm and a lot of they

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Speaker 3: showed me a lot of love too.

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Speaker 1: When you.

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Speaker 2: When you uh you entered this contest, you probably didn't

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Speaker 2: have a whole lot of expectations, like, man, I'm going

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Speaker 2: to get some of the the greatest pit masters in

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Speaker 2: the world. I've only been doing this for a small

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Speaker 2: amount of time, you know, to the level that you're

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Speaker 2: doing it now obviously you're you both beat in it.

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Speaker 2: Now you you hook you really you really hooked?

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Speaker 1: Did that make you like? Man?

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Speaker 2: You know what, you're gonna open a restaurant? What do

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Speaker 2: you what are you gonna do with that?

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Speaker 3: That's that's why I'm headed to open open. Uh. Right

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Speaker 3: now I'm online working on getting in the stores and

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Speaker 3: from the from once I'm in the stores and working

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Speaker 3: on the to uh get brick and mortar. Yep, get

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Speaker 3: to get the brick and mortar established one here California

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Speaker 3: in Vegas. Let people get it. Get to tasting some

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Speaker 3: good food.

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Speaker 1: Did your mama like you? Cause that's the seed, like

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Speaker 1: I can remember growing up.

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Speaker 2: That's got to be a Midwest or something because something

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Speaker 2: grandmas ain't letting everybody in the kitchen all kind of house,

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Speaker 2: do you know? I mean you, Hey, you can come

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Speaker 2: in here and get a glass, get some water or something,

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Speaker 2: but mainly most time or not, Hey, go to that

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Speaker 2: go to that spicure outside and get you some water.

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Speaker 2: Get out of this kitchen. So you say your dad

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Speaker 2: was was allowed you know you're watching him. Did he

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Speaker 2: allow you to participate?

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Speaker 3: Uh? Not really? If I had to go go get

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Speaker 3: that from you go get this right, you know right

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Speaker 3: other than that. Nah, but I just used to you

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Speaker 3: just watch Yeah yeah, I usoo to watch and just

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Speaker 3: you know everybody that used to just you know, be

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Speaker 3: like having fun. I'm like, oh this is great.

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Speaker 2: Cause everybody coming over, all the family know, you got

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Speaker 2: your cousin, your aunt, all the kids get an opportunity

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Speaker 2: to play together and do all that other stuff.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, and uh it's stuck with me. Man.

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Speaker 1: Do you do do you cook anything under the barbecue?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, I cook all. I mean, I'm do crab boys.

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Speaker 3: Uh samon I do? I do? I do Simon, I

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Speaker 3: do crab boys. I do anything, you know, I I anything.

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Speaker 3: I I should have made you some of my black

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Speaker 3: eyed peas.

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Speaker 1: Man, oh you have black eye peas?

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Speaker 3: What my black eye? I should have made some. I'm

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Speaker 3: gonna make some black eye. I'm gonna do something where

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Speaker 3: the black eyed peas. I do it.

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Speaker 1: Would you put baker, you put a ham? While would

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Speaker 1: you put in your black.

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Speaker 3: Tell nobody shause you can't cook no black peas.

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Speaker 1: You ain't got no meating.

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Speaker 3: Now it's it's it's a meat in them. But it's

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Speaker 3: it's uh, it's a twist that I have to it

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Speaker 3: that uh nobody is doing. It's it's a turkey I do.

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Speaker 3: I do have turkey necks in it. Definitely, that's definitely there. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I got it. It's a it's it's a it's a

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Speaker 3: nice Uh.

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Speaker 2: You like breakfast, you cook breakfast food? You like breakfast? Breakfast?

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Speaker 3: I cooked breakfast. It's the basic breakfast you know, bacon eggs.

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Speaker 1: And bacon eggs, you see.

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Speaker 2: I mean you you're in the South that you and

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Speaker 2: a t Yeah, Now you gotta have grit no cream

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Speaker 2: of wheat. I mean we do oat meal, but mainly

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Speaker 2: mainley grits.

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Speaker 3: That I've been eating grits like crazy.

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Speaker 1: Everywhere.

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Speaker 3: Every man is grits everywhere.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you ain'tett no cream of wheat. So if you

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Speaker 2: come there the South, you ain't getting no creamy wheat yet. Grits.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And I've I've had a lot of shrimp.

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Speaker 1: And grit stripping grits, catfish and.

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Speaker 3: Grit yeah yeah, yeah, yes, and day and every everywhere

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Speaker 3: I've been at it's been some good, some good, uh,

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Speaker 3: some really good food. Man.

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Speaker 2: So this is called sniffing Griffins, Warren G Productions, Original

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Speaker 2: Poetry and seafood barbecue rub. Yes, and this is the

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Speaker 2: that you like goes with some of everything, Yeah, the

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Speaker 2: all purpose, all purpose. Oh yeah, but none of them.

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Speaker 2: I mean some got it some which one got a

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Speaker 2: little kick?

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Speaker 3: We bring heat which is this right here, this sauce.

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Speaker 3: It's not a major kick. It just it's a creep up. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: it's not too overwhelming where you like, oh, alright, is

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Speaker 3: just a just a little bit of a a U

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Speaker 3: A A spiciness. And it don't even it ain't like

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Speaker 3: one of them last loans either, Right, it's just in

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Speaker 3: weeight kick and it it ain't it's not a super kick,

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Speaker 3: but it's a great it's a it's even. It's right

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Speaker 3: there to where it's not too much of this or

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Speaker 3: too less of that. Uh.

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Speaker 1: How often do you how often would you say you cook?

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Speaker 1: You cook daily?

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Speaker 2: You cook you know, special occasion, once a week, couple

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Speaker 2: times a week.

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Speaker 3: I barbecue three to four times a week, damn man,

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Speaker 3: year around. Yeah, when I'm at home, you know, I

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Speaker 3: I tell my wife She'll be like, well, I don't

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Speaker 3: wanna do this. I said, let me let me cook

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Speaker 3: it on the grill. Whatever. They let me cook it

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Speaker 3: on the grill. Mm. I love doing it. I love

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Speaker 3: doing it. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So your house is normally busy because you get you

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Speaker 2: cook it like that because people all wait over there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I just I just cooked for a couple

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Speaker 3: of my buddies. Uh, just for the fight. Yeah, that

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Speaker 3: was a good fight. Yes, indeed, that fight wasn't that close.

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Speaker 3: Budd beat the brakes off Canelo. Yeah, that was that

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Speaker 3: was yeah, he did.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how they get one fifteen one thirteen.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what fight they were watching, right, did

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Speaker 2: you see the fight.

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Speaker 3: The first fight between the dude Adams and uh, I

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Speaker 3: think Martinez, the black dude in the and the Mexican

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Speaker 3: dude Martinez.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Billy. Oh they were throwing the draw, the

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Speaker 1: split draw. Yeah. Oh they would throw a leather wow.

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Speaker 3: Yeah that was that was that right there when they

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Speaker 3: mentioned them going again.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm for that.

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Speaker 3: That's no bed, that's for the dude.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because bo Max buzz train or trained Martinez. Yes, yes, yes,

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Speaker 2: they was laying and I was like wow, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yea,

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Speaker 2: yeah that Damn there was the fight of the Yeah,

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Speaker 2: they would definitely throw a lever.

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Speaker 3: I was.

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Speaker 2: I was surprised. I was like, man, I mean both

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Speaker 2: got hit with some shots. The boy and really sat

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Speaker 2: I was like, ooh, yeah, yeah, he was throwing some lever.

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Speaker 3: I was like, damn, they both gonna have brain.

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Speaker 2: Damn it.

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Speaker 3: Shit, the motherfucker's getting hard.

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Speaker 2: But but damn one, you cooking three four times a

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Speaker 3: Yeah, when I ain't.

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Speaker 2: When I'm not, when you're not traveling, when you're not

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Speaker 2: doing you know, your.

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Speaker 3: Music and stuff, I come straight home and cook. I'd

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Speaker 3: just like to do it. Damn, man, I mean I

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Speaker 3: take breaks, I do what.

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Speaker 1: But I'm saying what. Let me ask you a question.

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Speaker 2: When you were let's just say you when your mid

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Speaker 2: twenties thirties, well you cook it like when you Now.

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Speaker 3: I wasn't doing it like that. I just would cook

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Speaker 3: wherever we was because we was moving so much, moving around,

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Speaker 3: there for a little bit, right boom.

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Speaker 2: Right, I spend all that money. You just buy the

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Speaker 3: Tours that we've been on. I didn't cook that all

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Speaker 3: of them. Really, all the tours we didn't been on me.

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Speaker 3: Snooping Wiz just did a tour about a year and

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Speaker 3: a half, two years ago. Uh, I cooked every day

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Speaker 3: on that. To Snoop wanted me to be is cook

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Speaker 3: on the cook pittmasking on the tour. I said, Snoop,

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Speaker 3: I can't do that. I'm already performing here and I'm

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Speaker 3: performing with you. I can't cook all this goddamn food.

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Speaker 3: But he was. He really wanted me to cook, and

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Speaker 3: I was like, I will, but I can't do it

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Speaker 3: like you want me to do it. But I do

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Speaker 3: it here here and there, here, here, here here, well

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Speaker 3: not every day for you and we we we every

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Speaker 3: day five all during the week, even.

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Speaker 1: Though our life doing it.

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Speaker 3: But I couldn't do it doing and perform and performer

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Speaker 1: Because barbecue take a long time.

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Speaker 2: Man. You gotta watch it. Yeah, you got first of all,

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Speaker 2: you gotta prepare. Hell, it take a couple of hours

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Speaker 2: just to get it prepared. Yeah yeah, do all that brining.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah. I Brian my Turkish too. I love him.

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Speaker 1: Mm hm, you cook turkey wings, turkey legs.

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Speaker 3: Legs, turkey wings, all of them. I should have bought

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Speaker 3: some turkey wings. Boom, you would have did that. Everything

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Speaker 3: Green? Band? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: What you put there? You what you put in your collar?

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Speaker 3: Are you turkey necks?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I have a butcher cut it cut the turkey leg

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Speaker 2: Uh huh.

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Speaker 3: When I put it in there, then I make I

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Them build it up and build all my stuff off

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Speaker 2: I think everybody's kind of graduating. They don't picture of band.

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Speaker 3: I ain't dead that No, I ain't. I ain't dead

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Speaker 2: No real You mentioned your uh your parents got divorced

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Speaker 1: Did that impact you in any way?

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Speaker 3: I didn't impact me because I sh she made my

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Speaker 3: Uh huh. She would he would come pick me up

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Speaker 2: So she never she never tried to keep you away

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Speaker 3: Nah, she didn't talk bad about him or nothing. But

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Speaker 3: was all good. I still was back down right around. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because you you you mentioned you were the only boy.

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Speaker 3: I'm the I'm the third yeah oldest. Okay, yeah, I'm

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Speaker 3: it's my sister missing me and uh Tracy and Felicia.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so you the knee baby.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yes indeed.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, So how was it? I mean, w was

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Speaker 3: They was gangsters? Yeah yeah, they they they was Uh

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Speaker 3: she was fighting, jeez, like real, she was fighting, dude,

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Speaker 3: she putting a pauls on do putting pauls.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, she she she she was, Uh, she was. She

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Speaker 1: I read her.

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Speaker 2: You said your mom said that she sent you with

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Speaker 3: In your life.

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Speaker 2: Uh, or you think that was the reason why she

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Speaker 3: I wasn't a bad. I wasn't bad. I wasn't you know.

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Speaker 3: But she just you know, and then but the one

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Speaker 3: I didn't like like anybody she was with.

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Speaker 1: Oh you wasn't. You were dead.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. So she used to tell me, like, around them,

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Speaker 2: Like, okay, well, since I'm the man the house, you

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Speaker 2: get out.

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Speaker 1: I don't like you.

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Speaker 2: The house.

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Speaker 3: I was like, uh yeah.

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Speaker 2: But did you ever think that you know the situation

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Speaker 2: that you your mom and dad would get back together.

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Speaker 1: Did you hope they would get back together?

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Speaker 3: Uh? I hoped, but it it never happened. My dad

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Speaker 3: guy that sh they I they was gonna get married.

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Speaker 3: His name was Tommy Cotton. Tommy was cool. Yeah, he

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Speaker 3: I ain't gonna lie he was cool. Yeah. And then

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Speaker 3: my dad, Mary Verner, and were raised. Vernon was vern Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Vernon was really good to me and actually she showed

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Speaker 2: It was when you met Andre government name goes by

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Speaker 2: to doctor Dres everybody knowing math. What were your first thoughts?

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Speaker 1: What were ya? How old were you when you gots met?

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Speaker 3: I think I was about maybe Uh, I had maybe

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Speaker 3: Proba was so he be you know, Uh yeah, I was.

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Speaker 3: It was yeah the uh I was eleven he yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: Y'all hit it off? Ya did y'all hit it off

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Speaker 2: with their like Eddy cot nothing.

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Speaker 3: No, no. They took me in, just took me right in.

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Speaker 3: And uh actually they had me, uh fighting and shh

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Speaker 3: like the guys my age. We would have battle of

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Speaker 3: You know. My my competition was was uh one of

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Speaker 3: cause I was you know Kibble's and Bess Kibble's getting

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Speaker 3: and uh uh we went from Kibble's to Sir Cool,

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Speaker 3: I I'm that's that's gonna be the title of of

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Speaker 3: and that's that name. I'm like bringing it like bringing

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Speaker 1: So how how was the sleeping arrangements? So what was it?

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Speaker 2: Like? Okay, the boys had a room because because did

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Speaker 2: Andre have sisters?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, sham maker, okay.

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Speaker 2: So obviously, so obviously she had her own room. Your

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Speaker 2: we slept in one room.

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Speaker 3: It was two beds, so I had to sleep in

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Speaker 3: in the bed he I was sleeping in the bed

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Speaker 3: with andre A sleeping in the bed with Tyree. I

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Speaker 3: some you know, to be right, you know. But Dre

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Speaker 3: was on the move a lot, so he wouldn't he

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Speaker 3: would be coming in Cooper Lake, you know, cause he

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Speaker 3: would be on the move, mounting back and forth. Uh huh,

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Speaker 3: hey we we was we all made it working? Yeah? Yeah.

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Speaker 2: How was it having a famous brother? Because fairly early

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Speaker 1: Huh he became doctor Drake.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Uh, I mean it was cool. It was cool.

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Speaker 3: I was in junior high school and I was just

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Speaker 3: you know, like I I looked up to him so much.

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Speaker 3: I asked him could I wear his UH jacket? There

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Speaker 3: let me wear it and a swatchwatch and he let

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Speaker 3: me wear that shit. I was the man the school

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Speaker 3: cause I had the UH, the the NW, the purple

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Speaker 3: not NWA with the UH world class record crew purple

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Speaker 3: jacket with the little record thing on it, and I ha,

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Speaker 3: he has watch watches. He let me wear a Swatch watch,

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Speaker 3: and uh, I w I was the man. Everybody was like,

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Speaker 3: world class record crew jacket. It was It was amazing,

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Speaker 3: you know, really cool, and everybody was just like damn.

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Speaker 3: They thought I was famous.

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Speaker 2: And then obviously he joins NWA. It's easy, it's dre.

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Speaker 2: It's q wren with DC.

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Speaker 3: Above a lard as well. Yeah, laylong co one eighty

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Speaker 3: seven KMG and go Mac. Total chaos.

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Speaker 2: When they formed n w A, they told you what

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Speaker 2: the n w A stood for. Did you have any

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Speaker 2: idea they transformed their the original gangster rap they're ogs.

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Speaker 1: Did you know they were gonna become what they became?

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Speaker 3: I knew it because they they was already bubbling in

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Speaker 3: the neighborhood off of just mixtapes. They was bubbling at

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Speaker 3: the Roadeum, swapped met off of mixtapes, doing mixtapes around

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Speaker 3: the neighborhood with would you know that's actually? Uh? Boys

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Speaker 3: in the Hood was pretty much like a like a

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Speaker 3: just's some mixtape, right song?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 3: That just went circulating and then it blew up from

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Speaker 3: the rodeum swaped me to the neighborhoods to it turned

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Speaker 3: into a a A first a single. They always they

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Speaker 3: they bubbled before, you know, before the NWA. They was

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Speaker 3: always just making noise, right you know? Yeah, yeah, So

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Speaker 3: I knew they was gonna be be something.

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Speaker 2: You got an opportunity to see them see it grow

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Speaker 2: from the very beginning. You saw the infancy, You saw

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Speaker 2: the seed stage, and then you see the plant and

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Speaker 2: you see the finished product.

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Speaker 1: What was it?

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Speaker 2: What was it like being around Easy? What was it

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Speaker 2: like being around Q? What was it like being around

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Speaker 2: wren and and those other guys?

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Speaker 3: Uh? Crazy? A lot of fun. Uh, A lot of

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Speaker 3: a lot of shit talking. Uh, A lot of beautiful women,

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Speaker 3: a lot of just everything, uh just fun just you know,

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Speaker 3: they w they w and and I used to just

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Speaker 3: just n n just like them talking shit and and uh.

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Speaker 3: I actually on the It Was for Life album, I

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Speaker 3: did the uh one nine hundred the Compton skin where

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Speaker 3: they had me come in there and act like I

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Speaker 3: the county jail. And uh that was really one of

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Speaker 3: the that was a really popular skit on that album.

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Speaker 3: I think I was like mm, I think I was

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Speaker 3: did that skit. Yeah that was niggas Fu seventeen or eighteen.

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Speaker 3: It was for Life uh one nine hundred comp and

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Speaker 3: people probably listen to that now like that was you Like, yeah,

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Speaker 3: that was me, you know, and uh so it was

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Speaker 3: that type of stuff going on, a lot of lot

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Speaker 3: of fun, just a lot of shit talking, a lot

442
00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:20,520
Speaker 3: of a lot of gangster shit. It was. It was

443
00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:22,719
Speaker 3: it was uh exciting.

444
00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:25,919
Speaker 2: You you mentioned earlier and we talked touched on this

445
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:30,560
Speaker 2: briefly about Dre and your music. Do you think one

446
00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:33,679
Speaker 2: of the things that he wasn't as supportive as you

447
00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:35,680
Speaker 2: thought he should have been. Maybe he didn't think he

448
00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:37,560
Speaker 2: was gonna you was taking it serious enough, or you

449
00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:40,080
Speaker 2: didn't he didn't think you would would was it serious

450
00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:41,879
Speaker 2: as you needed to be, or it wasn't gonna go

451
00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:43,680
Speaker 2: w what do you what do you think the reasons were?

452
00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:46,320
Speaker 2: Or he felt that you know what people gonna say,

453
00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:48,080
Speaker 2: he just got on because of me. Let him go

454
00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:50,440
Speaker 2: figure it out on his own. Let him do blow up,

455
00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:53,640
Speaker 2: and if he blows up over there, they can't say.

456
00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:54,880
Speaker 1: Dre gave him a hand out.

457
00:24:56,040 --> 00:25:02,720
Speaker 3: Uh. I wanted to be different.

458
00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:04,040
Speaker 4: You know.

459
00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:05,879
Speaker 3: He taught me a lot of stuff, but I just

460
00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:08,720
Speaker 3: wanted to do my music different. I wanted to do

461
00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:12,000
Speaker 3: more of cause, like it was, the music they was

462
00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:15,520
Speaker 3: doing is like super hardcore. Yeah, I wanted to do I.

463
00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:18,320
Speaker 3: I still could do that, but I wanted to do

464
00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:21,800
Speaker 3: this to where it's it's a good feel to it,

465
00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:26,040
Speaker 3: like it a feel good like a like E like

466
00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:28,240
Speaker 3: with some of the the records that's on that was

467
00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:31,240
Speaker 3: on the Chronic, like some of those ideas I I

468
00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:36,960
Speaker 3: I I brought some of those ideas and uh, the

469
00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:40,600
Speaker 3: ones that that I was involved in it. It was

470
00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:43,000
Speaker 3: more like a feel good or it had a message

471
00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:46,800
Speaker 3: to it, you know, like the the skit, like the

472
00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:50,200
Speaker 3: D's nuts. That was a whole. I told Drake, turned

473
00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:54,720
Speaker 3: the mic on, went in there, jumped on the phone

474
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:57,960
Speaker 3: and called one of my home girls. Uh, just having

475
00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:01,119
Speaker 3: a normal conversation. And then I ended it with you know,

476
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:03,239
Speaker 3: did what your name get at you? And she's like, oho,

477
00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:08,720
Speaker 3: geez now, so I I told I told him we

478
00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:14,640
Speaker 3: did that right there, just even like uh the uh

479
00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:16,879
Speaker 3: the s the skip from the mac right you know,

480
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:21,080
Speaker 3: that was a records I bought a a whole black exploitation.

481
00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:21,920
Speaker 2: Well.

482
00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:25,119
Speaker 3: I went to a company, a record cor record store

483
00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:29,200
Speaker 3: and brought the a whole like maybe two or three

484
00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:34,480
Speaker 3: cra crates of a black exploitation uh movies, and brought

485
00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:38,080
Speaker 3: all of those back and we dug through those albums

486
00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:40,879
Speaker 3: and we would find skits. We like Dolar Mike. We

487
00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:43,280
Speaker 3: used a lot of Dolar mic. We had pulled that

488
00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:46,199
Speaker 3: out of there. A lot of the records that was

489
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:50,720
Speaker 3: used was pulled out of these crates, like let Me

490
00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:55,040
Speaker 3: Ride was a uh a uh, it was a a

491
00:26:55,040 --> 00:27:00,360
Speaker 3: a dub record that I bought from. Uh Uh, it's

492
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:03,840
Speaker 3: a st your story used to sell like stub records.

493
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:07,399
Speaker 3: He used to sell like sample different samples and stuff

494
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 3: like that. So I got that record and that's where

495
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:13,760
Speaker 3: the uh, the let me ride idea came from the

496
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:22,720
Speaker 3: thatch that let me Rod said, Dre, listen to this shit,

497
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:24,639
Speaker 3: and he he listened to it. He was like, that

498
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:28,960
Speaker 3: shit is dope, and Dre is such a a genius

499
00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:32,240
Speaker 3: and dope producer. He took that shit and put it

500
00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:35,440
Speaker 3: together outside of the the idea that I brought, but

501
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:38,160
Speaker 3: it was like he he put it together and made

502
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:42,120
Speaker 3: it come to life, you know. And that's a lot

503
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:43,840
Speaker 3: of records, you know. We I used to push a

504
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:46,600
Speaker 3: bunch of ideas to him and he would take 'em

505
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:47,720
Speaker 3: and and and do it.

506
00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:47,960
Speaker 2: You know.

507
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:51,760
Speaker 3: A little ghetto board you know. That was uh uh

508
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:55,600
Speaker 3: one of the records that that that another record that

509
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:59,480
Speaker 3: that he had, uh that idea that he he took

510
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:02,359
Speaker 3: it and check it over. I had the different My

511
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 3: drums was a little different, but I was like, shit,

512
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:08,080
Speaker 3: go ahead, just like you know, because I'm my My

513
00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:11,720
Speaker 3: whole mentality is if you win, we all gonna win, right,

514
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:16,080
Speaker 3: so we invested everything we had enough to make Dre

515
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:21,320
Speaker 3: a superstar period, and that was along with what with

516
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 3: what with him as the producer. We just that's what

517
00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:28,640
Speaker 3: our our that's what our mindset was, that's what our

518
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:32,680
Speaker 3: goals was to make him a superstar. So we took

519
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 3: everything that we had and invested in him.

520
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:43,200
Speaker 2: You learned a valuable lesson about working on the Chronic because,

521
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:45,960
Speaker 2: like you said, you brought some ideas. Yeah, and probably say, man,

522
00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:47,160
Speaker 2: I wish I could have gotten me a couple of

523
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:49,160
Speaker 2: those credits, a couple of little publishing on that thing.

524
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:53,680
Speaker 3: Real nice, and I wish I had a business mind,

525
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:56,200
Speaker 3: but I didn't know about the publishers. I didn't know

526
00:28:56,160 --> 00:29:00,680
Speaker 3: about it, like off top, but yeah I did. I

527
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:03,239
Speaker 3: wish I would have got you know, I wish you know,

528
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 3: it would have been more of like, Okay, let's get

529
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 3: this dude from credit, because he did put in a

530
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:14,640
Speaker 3: lot of work. None of that was was there, none

531
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:17,920
Speaker 3: of that was done. But you know, like I said,

532
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:23,000
Speaker 3: our goal was to to put all we got in

533
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 3: there to helping Dre become a monster huge, to blow

534
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 3: him up, you know, because that's what we looked up to.

535
00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:33,720
Speaker 3: So we like and he was away from n w A,

536
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 3: was away from easy now. He he was like you know.

537
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:39,720
Speaker 1: And he had and that was the time that he had.

538
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:42,360
Speaker 2: No, he hadn't because he didn't really he didn't leave

539
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:46,440
Speaker 2: Sugar until the late nineties. Yeah, this was Yeah, he

540
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:47,960
Speaker 2: was still at he was at death Row.

541
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:51,880
Speaker 3: Well no, it was if he wasn't with nobody, Well

542
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 3: it wasn't. Death Row wasn't even formed yet. Future Shot Okay,

543
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:59,200
Speaker 3: it was called Future Shot first that you know. That's

544
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:00,960
Speaker 3: then it turned out in the death Row.

545
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, because basically when Tupac got out what ninety six.

546
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:10,200
Speaker 3: Five, like ninety five, like the summer ninety five somewhere

547
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:11,000
Speaker 3: around there.

548
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:14,480
Speaker 2: And then he ended up like hey, given the entire

549
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 2: death Row to Shire and then started after Math. Was

550
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:22,280
Speaker 2: that that how after Math started?

551
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:27,800
Speaker 3: Yeah? That was Aftermath charged it to the game. Like

552
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:31,240
Speaker 3: he just didn't want to be involved with the way

553
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:33,400
Speaker 3: way they were doing businesses they yeah, and the way

554
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:35,680
Speaker 3: it was moving. He didn't want to be involved because

555
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:39,320
Speaker 3: you know, it was just couldn't move around. He couldn't

556
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:41,160
Speaker 3: go nowhere because it's like, oh that's one of them

557
00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:47,840
Speaker 3: death Row. Yeah, you know, and they probably whooped somebody

558
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:51,240
Speaker 3: ass or done some you know, you know, I don't know,

559
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:52,200
Speaker 3: something might have happened.

560
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:55,200
Speaker 1: And then okay, they got you isolated.

561
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:58,160
Speaker 3: You don't even know it was blind right, and uh,

562
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:01,400
Speaker 3: I mean it's taken the test, got tired of and

563
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 3: just wanted to to, you know, get away from all

564
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 3: of that. So he bounced.

565
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:10,360
Speaker 2: You gottas he bounced. But that's the thing, go think

566
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:12,960
Speaker 2: about it. I mean, he really, he really created that

567
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 2: and to say, man, you know what y'all can have that, I'm.

568
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 3: Out Cause he knew what he could do. You know,

569
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 3: he knew he was that town, he was that talented,

570
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 3: and he knew what he could do. And he had

571
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:26,280
Speaker 3: the machine behind him that followed, you know, Jimmy went

572
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 3: with him. That was the machine. MM. So he can

573
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:32,480
Speaker 3: redo this all. He could do this all over again.

574
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:35,480
Speaker 3: You still got all of us if you need us

575
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:41,479
Speaker 3: to help with anything. And the chronic, the the second chronic,

576
00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:44,960
Speaker 3: can you know boom is still But that was all

577
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:48,640
Speaker 3: him on his whole, a new new reed, new company,

578
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 3: and that that album was Now, I didn't have nothing

579
00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:57,120
Speaker 3: to do with that one, do yes? Indeed, what are

580
00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:57,520
Speaker 3: it like.

581
00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 2: Seeing someone that you actually grew up with, that you

582
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:04,960
Speaker 2: actually know that you could actually touch be a billionaire.

583
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:11,840
Speaker 3: Uh. I mean it's it's it's it's uh.

584
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:15,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah yeah, I mean, I mean my brother was

585
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:18,640
Speaker 2: good at football, but let him have a bit of billionaire.

586
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:24,960
Speaker 3: It. I mean it it was just I wasn't even

587
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 3: I don't be tripping. I was just like, he's just

588
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 3: your brother. Yeah, you know, I ain't never really just

589
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 3: like because it's hard.

590
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 2: It's hard. It's hard to really because I gave private

591
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:35,400
Speaker 2: example one.

592
00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 3: Well, now let me now I say that took took

593
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 3: me on a vacation with him. Now I ain't gonna

594
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 3: lie that. We had our own private jet. Everything. We

595
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 3: went out to the islands and like some ship way

596
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 3: out in the deep out there and like the Mall

597
00:32:52,600 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 3: des Balley not that far uh uh uh what was

598
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 3: it mystique? Okay, it was a spot called it's it's

599
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:05,240
Speaker 3: a call spot.

600
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:05,800
Speaker 2: Uh.

601
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:09,640
Speaker 3: We went out there and and and he had that

602
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:13,040
Speaker 3: ship laid out. We had our own matching. I was like,

603
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 3: this is rich. We on our own private jet. We

604
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 3: flew to the When we got to the airport, we

605
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 3: jumped on another little bitty plane where the windows was

606
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 3: opening like and we flew here. When we got there, Uh,

607
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:32,720
Speaker 3: golf courts picked us up and they said, mister Griffin

608
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:36,720
Speaker 3: and I jumped on the court, We're taking you to

609
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:40,120
Speaker 3: your quarters. I'm like my quarters ship hear me? We

610
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:45,200
Speaker 3: went to our own mansion. I'm like, it's falling. And

611
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:49,080
Speaker 3: then and then he he had a he had like

612
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:51,480
Speaker 3: it was a call thing where everybody got We all

613
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:54,880
Speaker 3: got called okay, everybody meet up at the main matching

614
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:58,959
Speaker 3: uh at this time. So we're like all right, boom.

615
00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 3: So the courts out there, they pick us up and

616
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 3: they drive us over there. And we drove in that

617
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:08,920
Speaker 3: mouth and that ship was like coming to America with

618
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:12,239
Speaker 3: like the curtains and ship swinging like the it was

619
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:16,719
Speaker 3: a beautiful matching, big gass mansion and the entry and

620
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 3: like I said, that ship the waving and then we

621
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 3: walked through the house. The house was huge, went out

622
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:29,520
Speaker 3: to the back, big ass like thing with with lights

623
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:32,000
Speaker 3: and ship around and a big old beautiful table with

624
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 3: just food everywhere and just beautiful, beautiful music. Even Guappoli

625
00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:46,799
Speaker 3: was banging uh boom boom boom boom. I was like, oh,

626
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:51,759
Speaker 3: this nigga and he doing it big damn we smoking cigars.

627
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 3: I ain't even a cigar smoking. I'm out there, like,

628
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 3: but that's when I was like this, this dude is

629
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 3: uh he yeah, he got it, he got it going on. Man.

630
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:08,279
Speaker 1: Man, that's uh for me.

631
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:11,719
Speaker 2: When people would tell me, man, your brother is good

632
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:13,880
Speaker 2: as Jared Rice, your brother good is Michael Lowy, Your

633
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 2: brother's good as this, I couldn't see anything but my brother.

634
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:19,880
Speaker 2: So I couldn't see him outside of that. And I

635
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:22,919
Speaker 2: think you you're like, man, I grew up with him. Yeah, yeah,

636
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:26,400
Speaker 2: I understand. He doctor Dre, I understand. He just superducer.

637
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 2: Here's my brother. Yeah, slipping the same bed. I mean,

638
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:32,360
Speaker 2: we ate the same boy in the same Delltate. We

639
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:35,799
Speaker 2: did all that. It's hard to see somebody that you

640
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 2: grew up with outside of what you saw from that

641
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 2: very point.

642
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:41,200
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.

643
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 2: But then you're like, yeah he different, Yeah, yeah, brother different.

644
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:51,480
Speaker 2: He definitely different. Because this air, this here is is

645
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:54,319
Speaker 2: what you read about when you see these movies. You

646
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 2: see this James Bond stuff and they're on this island

647
00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:59,920
Speaker 2: and they lady come up out of the water and

648
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,279
Speaker 2: James Bond is he's standing on the he's standing on

649
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:03,920
Speaker 2: the thing with Yeah, it's.

650
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 1: Different, it's different.

651
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:09,479
Speaker 2: He's different, and we we different now yeah, yeah, yeah,

652
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 2: we different now.

653
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 3: Oh yeah yes.

654
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:16,360
Speaker 1: And you also during that time you were around Tupac.

655
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 2: Uh huh, Tupac was. Tupac was lot of people like man.

656
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:23,440
Speaker 2: Tupac was living a lot too. He might have been

657
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 2: the first like rapper that became a movie star. Now

658
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:30,680
Speaker 2: we've seen we've seen other guys. We've seen who is

659
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:33,960
Speaker 2: that math do it? We've seen a Buster rhymes do it?

660
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:38,440
Speaker 2: Ice Cube is done it, Snoop has gone into that.

661
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 1: So we see a lot of other guys. But Tupac

662
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 1: was you know.

663
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:45,720
Speaker 2: Juice and proetic justice and all that. Excuse me, Jason Lyric,

664
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:48,319
Speaker 2: what was what was Tupac like?

665
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:57,320
Speaker 3: Cool? Like that's a cold dude? Uh he uh hyper

666
00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:01,360
Speaker 3: it was hyper. Uh See, Tupac is one of the

667
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:04,160
Speaker 3: first dudes. Him and mc bree was the first couple

668
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 3: of guys to give me, give me my first shot

669
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:10,399
Speaker 3: at uh uh production outside of uh with up, out

670
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 3: of outside of the the Death Row UH company. But

671
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:18,200
Speaker 3: he he was he was a he was a good

672
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:22,400
Speaker 3: dude man, just just you know, didn't you know. He'd

673
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 3: tell you what he whatever he felt, he'd tell you.

674
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:30,360
Speaker 3: He wouldn't hold nothing back. Uh, and just a just

675
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:34,400
Speaker 3: a cool dude. You know. We I had a uh

676
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,759
Speaker 3: I got a story, uh that you know I did.

677
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:42,200
Speaker 3: I done some music for him, and uh, I was

678
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 3: hitting him like, pac, I need to give my money. Man,

679
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:48,520
Speaker 3: I didn't done all the uh you know, done this

680
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 3: music for you. Da da da da dah. He was like,

681
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:52,880
Speaker 3: i'm'a get you your money da da da m But

682
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:57,680
Speaker 3: I'm like, alright, So it was still cool. So seeing

683
00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:03,400
Speaker 3: him up at the uh comedy store, I tell you

684
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 3: I I walked up to him, I was like, parck,

685
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:09,480
Speaker 3: I need to give my bread. Uh came right out

686
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 3: the pocket, like, came out, broke me off my money.

687
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:15,279
Speaker 3: It I was only charging fifteen hundred dollars a beat back.

688
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:18,440
Speaker 3: Then yeah, I he came right off the pocket and

689
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 3: broke me off my bread right then and there. And uh,

690
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 3: you know, I I felt kind of bad, like cause

691
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:29,879
Speaker 3: we cool, right, you know, so I felt kind of bad, like, yeah,

692
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:31,719
Speaker 3: I C I felt kind of bad having to ask

693
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 3: him like, man, I need my mother for money. And

694
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:38,319
Speaker 3: uh but we we we still was cool after that.

695
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:41,480
Speaker 3: But right after that him and him at Tretch, I

696
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:44,000
Speaker 3: got into a fight with some cats right at the

697
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:47,479
Speaker 3: comics Tretch Tretch, Uh he could he he was there.

698
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:51,799
Speaker 3: They got into a a squabble right after that. But

699
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 3: you know, I that w That was like a a

700
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:58,680
Speaker 3: moment where I was like, damn, that's my guy. But

701
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 3: I gotta I gotta you know, got I gotta. I

702
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:06,160
Speaker 3: gotta get paid Ship, I gotta get paid you. But

703
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:10,920
Speaker 3: we were still. We was cool after that everything, and

704
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:14,239
Speaker 3: he always he always been a solid guy. And I

705
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:19,239
Speaker 3: actually tried to get him out, you know, when he

706
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:22,560
Speaker 3: was on had that bell going. Me and another one

707
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:25,360
Speaker 3: of my good friends, Richie rich We used to he

708
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:27,120
Speaker 3: and the he was from the bay up there where

709
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:30,600
Speaker 3: Park was at. We used to talk all the time.

710
00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 3: So he knew that me and Pok was cool. Him

711
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 3: and Poc was tight, and so I told him like, look,

712
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 3: let me put up the money. I'll put some money

713
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 3: up to get him out and should beat me to

714
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:51,880
Speaker 3: the punch. Uh you know, but right, yeah, I was

715
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:55,160
Speaker 3: gonna put Actually I don't I don't think he might have.

716
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:57,960
Speaker 3: He probably put a millionaire but it wasn't a million dollars.

717
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 3: It wasn't it wasn't a million dollars. It was. It

718
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:06,320
Speaker 3: was less than that. But you know, he wrote the

719
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:09,200
Speaker 3: letters him and Rich was going back and forth, and

720
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 3: I told him just let me know what I could do.

721
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:13,960
Speaker 3: And I was like, I don't want nothing, you know,

722
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:15,920
Speaker 3: want nothing back it. But if I asked you to

723
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:17,959
Speaker 3: do a song or something, let's let's do a song.

724
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:19,880
Speaker 3: But other than that, I just want don't want to

725
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:22,920
Speaker 3: see you in that position. So I was willing to

726
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:25,239
Speaker 3: put up some bread to get him out of there.

727
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 3: And my god, Rich he was, he was. He witnessed that.

728
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:31,239
Speaker 3: You know. It was a few people you know out

729
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 3: there saying that, uh, that that wasn't real. But you know,

730
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:39,279
Speaker 3: well Sugar even said it wasn't real. But it's real.

731
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:43,400
Speaker 3: You know, Rich was his. That was a dog, so

732
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:46,799
Speaker 3: you know, but it is what it is.

733
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:51,759
Speaker 2: This was before Look, he's a digital underground. He had

734
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:53,759
Speaker 2: a little hard bag, even more of a dancer. Then.

735
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:58,600
Speaker 2: Did you know he when he got out and he

736
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:01,400
Speaker 2: did all I on me the two disc?

737
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:02,600
Speaker 3: Yeah?

738
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:04,799
Speaker 1: Did you did you hear it before it came out?

739
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:07,719
Speaker 3: No? I wasn't nowhere around it.

740
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:11,480
Speaker 1: Did you did you know it was going to do this?

741
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:12,840
Speaker 4: No?

742
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:16,760
Speaker 3: I didn't. I didn't. I wasn't. I didn't know nothing

743
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:20,279
Speaker 3: that was going on. But I had actually I ran

744
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:25,680
Speaker 3: into him at the House of Blues and we hugged

745
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:28,759
Speaker 3: and everything. And this was around when he got out,

746
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 3: we hugged everything. He was like, I want to work

747
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:32,640
Speaker 3: on let's work. So I was like, all right, it's

748
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:39,760
Speaker 3: all good. And what had happened, Uh, it was an

749
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:45,920
Speaker 3: incident that happened. Uh, a studio incident that happened that. Uh.

750
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:48,719
Speaker 3: That's what led to me saying because he was like,

751
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:51,720
Speaker 3: let me, let me come to this up the cannon

752
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:54,919
Speaker 3: and I was like, nah, I'm not coming up there.

753
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:58,720
Speaker 3: You know that look because it was a little incident

754
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 3: that happened up there where you know, they had called

755
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:05,960
Speaker 3: me in. They was like Warren, Uh, you know, Sugar

756
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:07,440
Speaker 3: didn't want to holler at you. At the end of

757
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 3: uh melean the back. So I'm like, what do he want? Like,

758
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:16,719
Speaker 3: what do you want with me? So I'm like let

759
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:20,719
Speaker 3: me So I said, I'm coming man. So somebody else,

760
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 3: like man should want to holler at you. So I

761
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:25,279
Speaker 3: was like all right, So I'm like, man, let me

762
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:27,480
Speaker 3: go back here and see what's going on. Man. He

763
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:30,360
Speaker 3: probably want to do some business or something of something

764
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:32,360
Speaker 3: like that. And then should I walk back in that

765
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:35,120
Speaker 3: mother and the mother and mother came out of the

766
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:41,920
Speaker 3: side doors and shit tripping, tripping, like all ran up

767
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:43,719
Speaker 3: on me, grabbed me and shit, and I'm like the

768
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:47,680
Speaker 3: and it was awful.

769
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:49,480
Speaker 1: You ain't know what it was about.

770
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:53,520
Speaker 3: I know what it was about, but I didn't know

771
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:58,280
Speaker 3: that that that it was because dra left right and

772
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:01,640
Speaker 3: he I hadn't He didn't tell me, you dog like one,

773
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:02,600
Speaker 3: don't go around that sho.

774
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:04,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, because if he'd told you, you'd have never went

775
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:04,839
Speaker 1: over there.

776
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:05,160
Speaker 2: Never.

777
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:08,799
Speaker 3: I wouldn't have never went. But it was just like,

778
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:11,440
Speaker 3: you know, I'm just like, damn what you know, Like

779
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 3: why y'all tripping on me? You know what I mean?

780
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 3: But so it was kind of it was like one

781
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:20,319
Speaker 3: of another guy, I know, one of my homeboys. He

782
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:24,759
Speaker 3: kind of caused like a diversion. He came in, like

783
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 3: why y'all tripping with warm? What's going on? What's happening?

784
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:29,880
Speaker 3: So when he was doing that, I went just like that.

785
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:31,879
Speaker 3: I got on the door and I hit that knob

786
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:35,239
Speaker 3: and boop, slid right out the door. And when I

787
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 3: walked through the door, I seen people I knew in

788
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:41,279
Speaker 3: the kitchen. I'm looking at him like he's tripping, and

789
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 3: so walked through and I got to the middle of

790
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 3: the hallway and they came running out that muther get

791
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:55,320
Speaker 3: that nigga blood. I took off again. I took off,

792
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:59,759
Speaker 3: but this time I got out the door. Uh but they,

793
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:04,440
Speaker 3: I swear it got the whole whoever all the people

794
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:06,840
Speaker 3: that came running after, they just failed. It was like

795
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:10,879
Speaker 3: a domino like they failed in the hallway. Which that's

796
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:12,840
Speaker 3: the reason why I was able to get away. So

797
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:16,080
Speaker 3: I got away and I jumped in my truck, backed

798
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:20,080
Speaker 3: it up, and I was like, fuck y'oll and took off.

799
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:22,719
Speaker 1: Took off.

800
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 3: My chain got snatched.

801
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 1: What change did you have?

802
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:29,680
Speaker 3: I had a g funk chain And so.

803
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:32,480
Speaker 2: That when it started that doing that foolish start snatching changed.

804
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:36,840
Speaker 3: So chant no change snatching that been going on for

805
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:39,560
Speaker 3: a long time, and I'm I'm gonna admit it, I ain't.

806
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:42,840
Speaker 3: It was nothing I could do. I was in a

807
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:48,720
Speaker 3: position like where if I can't do ship, if I

808
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:52,680
Speaker 3: pull out a gun and start the pulled start blasting,

809
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:55,799
Speaker 3: I'm gonna get killed by these other mother with all

810
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:58,480
Speaker 3: these guns here. It was a no win situation. So

811
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:01,400
Speaker 3: when my chain got I was I was kind of like,

812
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:02,840
Speaker 3: but it's.

813
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:04,719
Speaker 1: Like that little see another day.

814
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:06,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, you get what am I gonna do?

815
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:06,799
Speaker 2: Right?

816
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:10,600
Speaker 3: The three times my side.

817
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 2: Had you not, had you not snuck out of the door,

818
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:14,719
Speaker 2: you think they would You think they woulda did they?

819
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:15,680
Speaker 2: It would have been worse.

820
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:18,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it woulda. It would have been ugly.

821
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:22,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, cause they was mad at you because you the

822
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 2: closest thing to Dre pretty much, and so to get

823
00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:28,239
Speaker 2: back at Dre, they gonna get you.

824
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:30,880
Speaker 3: That's the way I I s That's the way I

825
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 3: looked at it, cause I and I didn't know. I'm like,

826
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:36,160
Speaker 3: I wish he would have told me that he was

827
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:41,920
Speaker 3: leaving shit, you know, but charged it to the game,

828
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:46,840
Speaker 3: you know, and even even even you know, even today,

829
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:49,200
Speaker 3: you know, every now and then, Sugar say some shit,

830
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:55,840
Speaker 3: Uh just talk some shit. Why I have no idea.

831
00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:59,279
Speaker 3: He'll say some shit like warn them set up tupacers

832
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:06,160
Speaker 3: some crazy yet yeah stop it, you know, But I ain't.

833
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:07,759
Speaker 3: You know, like at the end of the day, it's

834
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:10,640
Speaker 3: I I I don't grown so much to where it's

835
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:13,719
Speaker 3: just like you know what I I don't have. I

836
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:15,719
Speaker 3: don't have I don't listen to it. I ain't got

837
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:19,360
Speaker 3: no hate towards him, none of that stuff, any of

838
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:22,280
Speaker 3: those situations. I c I charged all that to the game,

839
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:26,000
Speaker 3: and it's just like, don't keep poking at me. You know,

840
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:28,520
Speaker 3: I ain't. I ain't. I don't say nothing about him.

841
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:31,319
Speaker 3: He'll say something here and there, and I'm just like

842
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:33,799
Speaker 3: every now, I've I've responded a couple of times because

843
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:36,719
Speaker 3: that pissed me off. But it's just like, I'm not

844
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:40,399
Speaker 3: gonna keep entertaining that I ain't. I ain't got nothing

845
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:42,560
Speaker 3: against you. Out and moved on. I do my thing.

846
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:47,600
Speaker 3: I'm grown now, right, Uh, whatever happened back in the day, whatever, Okay, cool,

847
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:50,279
Speaker 3: it is what it is. So now I'm moving on,

848
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:52,320
Speaker 3: but don't come. Don't keep poking on me, cause I

849
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:55,720
Speaker 3: ain't with you, right, you know, so leave me alone.

850
00:46:55,960 --> 00:47:00,920
Speaker 3: I they're everything I speak on is facts. And I

851
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:04,839
Speaker 3: never threw no dirt on his name, nobody, nobody, none

852
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:07,000
Speaker 3: of these guys. Never been a whistle blow and never

853
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:10,160
Speaker 3: do no no dirt on nobody, none of that. I

854
00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:14,080
Speaker 3: just always you know, just me, me, and I carried

855
00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:17,080
Speaker 3: myself in a different way and out the way.

856
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:18,719
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah.

857
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:20,719
Speaker 2: Is it true that you told Snoop not to go

858
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:25,080
Speaker 2: to that that Tyson seldom fight yeah, because I had

859
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:29,600
Speaker 2: actually I had went to the Tyson Frank Bruno fight.

860
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:33,880
Speaker 1: I think that was April, and as.

861
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:35,600
Speaker 2: A matter of fact, it was my first time being

862
00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:39,400
Speaker 2: in Vegas and I was walking on the strip. Tupac

863
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:43,120
Speaker 2: and Snoop was in a Rose Roys together dropped top wow,

864
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:48,000
Speaker 2: and I remember walking. I was walking down the thing

865
00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:50,640
Speaker 2: and I was looked over there and they both kind

866
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:51,480
Speaker 2: of like looked over there.

867
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:53,799
Speaker 1: It's like, man, what's up sharp. I was like, what's

868
00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:54,279
Speaker 1: up guy?

869
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:56,920
Speaker 2: You know, cause it was like it was like I

870
00:47:57,200 --> 00:47:58,800
Speaker 2: love you, man, because I didn't expect.

871
00:47:58,840 --> 00:47:59,960
Speaker 1: I didn't expect to see.

872
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:02,400
Speaker 3: We love you. And so I was like damn.

873
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:04,400
Speaker 2: And I remember getting on the pall. I called, I

874
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:06,800
Speaker 2: called my sister, called called my home. I said, man,

875
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:09,080
Speaker 2: you're never gonna guess who I just saw rolling down

876
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:10,960
Speaker 2: the strip and like who, I said, Man, I saw

877
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:14,800
Speaker 2: Tupocket Snoop. And so that was the That was the

878
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:17,879
Speaker 2: the Frank Bruno and Tyson fight. And then I think

879
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:23,680
Speaker 2: that September was when Tyson fought Bruce Seldon and that's

880
00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:27,080
Speaker 2: when all that yeah went down and it like you

881
00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:28,000
Speaker 2: told Snoop Stick.

882
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:33,040
Speaker 3: Snoop, don't go uh it wasn't the reason. The reason

883
00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:37,359
Speaker 3: why I called Snoop is because I didn't like it.

884
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:40,239
Speaker 3: Wasn't like, don't go Snoop, because I knew like I

885
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:43,640
Speaker 3: knew you. I called Snoop to come kick it with

886
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:47,920
Speaker 3: me down here. I'm a barbecue. You don't never come

887
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:50,279
Speaker 3: hang with me, No, mom, come on, come on over here.

888
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:53,880
Speaker 3: I'm single. I was well, I was I was in

889
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:56,480
Speaker 3: a beginning relationship with my wife kind of in a

890
00:48:56,600 --> 00:49:00,680
Speaker 3: very very early stages. But I was still like by myself.

891
00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:02,680
Speaker 3: I was still living by myself and all that stuff.

892
00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:05,040
Speaker 3: So I had a gang of people come over. It

893
00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:09,640
Speaker 3: was a couple of girls came through, guys came through. Barbecue.

894
00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:13,359
Speaker 3: But he was he you know, he would never come

895
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:15,839
Speaker 3: when I went, would invite it, right, So I invited him.

896
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:17,640
Speaker 3: He was like, no, they I'm going to Vegas. Da

897
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:20,719
Speaker 3: da da da Dad. So he pretty much surprised me

898
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:25,040
Speaker 3: and came over. You know, he came. So I look

899
00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:29,279
Speaker 3: outside and he in the Rose Royce, a white with

900
00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:31,879
Speaker 3: the with the peanut butter all that.

901
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:32,120
Speaker 1: Yeah.

902
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:34,719
Speaker 3: I was like, damn, And I said, let me drive

903
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:38,000
Speaker 3: that mother. So he let me drive it. I drove

904
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:40,279
Speaker 3: it around, you know, around the neighborhood a little bit

905
00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:42,520
Speaker 3: where I lived at. It was inside gates, but I

906
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:46,560
Speaker 3: was driving it around and stuff, but he was just like,

907
00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:48,520
Speaker 3: I'm gonna come, I'm gonna hang with you. And I

908
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:51,200
Speaker 3: was like, all right, shit. So it was all good.

909
00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:55,919
Speaker 3: We barbecued, had a good time. And then that's when

910
00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:59,040
Speaker 3: all the all the stuff started happening, all this all

911
00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:01,560
Speaker 3: kind of shit all come his phone ringing, all kinds

912
00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:05,720
Speaker 3: of shit beeping it and he had got the news

913
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:11,920
Speaker 3: like what happened down there? He just immediately took off boom.

914
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:14,120
Speaker 3: He shot straight out of there. He's like, I gotta go,

915
00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:17,200
Speaker 3: I'm gonna pune and he shot jump in his car

916
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:23,160
Speaker 3: and was shot straight to Vegas. Yeah, and uh.

917
00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:26,240
Speaker 2: When you had heard what happened Tupac had got shot?

918
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:30,799
Speaker 2: Did you did you know? Did you know it was

919
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:32,560
Speaker 2: a drive by? Did you think he had gotten to

920
00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:35,400
Speaker 2: the confrontation, somebody had got to drop on him? What

921
00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:37,400
Speaker 2: did you think had happened when you had heard Tupac

922
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:39,360
Speaker 2: had gotten shot? Or did you did they give you

923
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:40,239
Speaker 2: any details?

924
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:43,040
Speaker 3: I didn't get no details or nothing. I just heard

925
00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:46,640
Speaker 3: he had got shot and was hoping that he was okay. Right,

926
00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:49,680
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, cause it's like, damn, okay,

927
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:53,000
Speaker 3: pot got shot. He gonna be alright, right, Yeah, and

928
00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:57,480
Speaker 3: because he you know, from what they were saying, you know,

929
00:50:57,560 --> 00:51:00,400
Speaker 3: he was in the hospital, he was getting some operations whatever.

930
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:04,560
Speaker 3: But they wasn't saying like, you know, that he was

931
00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:08,560
Speaker 3: gonna die or anything. Right, it was that shit was hard,

932
00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:11,160
Speaker 3: that shit was rough, you know, like that was some

933
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:15,319
Speaker 3: serious shit like that. Everybody up for sure.

934
00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:18,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, because if I'm not mistaken, Tupac was only twenty five.

935
00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:20,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was young, young, yeah.

936
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:23,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, he had just he hadn't even been out maybe

937
00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:28,319
Speaker 2: a year yeah yeah, yeah, and was gone. And that's

938
00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:32,799
Speaker 2: why people don't realize he didn't have the longevity that

939
00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:34,600
Speaker 2: a lot of these rappers have. I mean, he didn't

940
00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:37,520
Speaker 2: have a five year, ten year, fifteen, twenty year career.

941
00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:40,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, as a solo artist, it might have been what

942
00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:42,960
Speaker 1: a year maybe two years tops.

943
00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:46,360
Speaker 3: Well, he had albums before, he had he had he

944
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:51,200
Speaker 3: had records before that, he had sold the story, he

945
00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:53,520
Speaker 3: had he had a bunch of he had the albums,

946
00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:56,480
Speaker 3: like right before the death Row thing, and death Row

947
00:51:56,600 --> 00:51:59,840
Speaker 3: picked him up, took him in. Yeah, he asked he

948
00:51:59,920 --> 00:52:06,359
Speaker 3: was he was popping, you know, then as well. But

949
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:10,200
Speaker 3: what was what's the trip? Is that? That Me against

950
00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:11,000
Speaker 3: the World album?

951
00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:11,319
Speaker 1: Yeah?

952
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:15,280
Speaker 3: He pretty much like that was like thirty, like twenty

953
00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:18,239
Speaker 3: some years worth of work in one album. Like the

954
00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:23,080
Speaker 3: the things he the direction he was steering at, the

955
00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:26,799
Speaker 3: guys our age and the things about the kids.

956
00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:30,360
Speaker 2: And what he talked about dear Mama and uh, Brenda's

957
00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:34,239
Speaker 2: got a baby. Yeah this I mean what like the

958
00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:36,600
Speaker 2: stories that I mean he was telling a story.

959
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:41,200
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, and it was like he was he told

960
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:44,400
Speaker 3: the future because now a lot of this stuff happened

961
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:46,640
Speaker 3: and some of it is still happened. Like he said,

962
00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:49,960
Speaker 3: epidemic and diseases. What is the future and look, we'd

963
00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:52,320
Speaker 3: be having all these epidemics and diseases.

964
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:53,080
Speaker 1: Yes, like that.

965
00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:55,560
Speaker 2: So you when you look at somebody, Okay, he left

966
00:52:55,560 --> 00:52:59,680
Speaker 2: digital underground probably in the early nineties, so he probably

967
00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:01,719
Speaker 2: you know, jumped on the scene probably what ninety two,

968
00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:05,920
Speaker 2: ninety three, went away for what sixteen seven eighteen months?

969
00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:08,320
Speaker 3: He was he was still putting out records. He was

970
00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:11,600
Speaker 3: putting out Uh it was still in there.

971
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:15,920
Speaker 2: People, don't I mean so so so young. Yeah, I

972
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:20,440
Speaker 2: mean he wasn't even in his prime. No, no, And

973
00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:22,759
Speaker 2: then all Lives on Me just came and it was

974
00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:24,879
Speaker 2: just like a two disk and it just like Dre

975
00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:25,880
Speaker 2: was on it.

976
00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:28,600
Speaker 1: It was just it was it was crazy. Yeah, it

977
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:29,160
Speaker 1: was crazy.

978
00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:34,080
Speaker 3: I produced how Long would They Warm Me? Uh, Definition

979
00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:36,560
Speaker 3: of a Thug? And then I did I produced a

980
00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:40,440
Speaker 3: lot of kick it for him. The Definition of a

981
00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:45,319
Speaker 3: Thug was was his first like thug life song that

982
00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:47,480
Speaker 3: I did me and him at Echo Sound and then

983
00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:49,560
Speaker 3: after how Long Will They Warm Me? I've done that

984
00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:52,800
Speaker 3: the same night at Echo Sound when we did Definition

985
00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:58,359
Speaker 3: of a Thug, I was That's when I that's once

986
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:00,560
Speaker 3: again I was. I was so long. I was out

987
00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:05,360
Speaker 3: on my own and just wasn't Uh. I was still

988
00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:08,839
Speaker 3: working and doing things, but I wasn't like around at

989
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:12,719
Speaker 3: that time, around anybody. I was just at home, well

990
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:16,560
Speaker 3: at my sister apartment, sleeping on the floor. MM. And uh,

991
00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:19,799
Speaker 3: I got got that call. You know, I didn't. I

992
00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:23,319
Speaker 3: didn't know it was Pock but cause he well he

993
00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:26,160
Speaker 3: he he called, but I didn't think it was him. R.

994
00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:28,879
Speaker 3: It was like Pick can't get ready to be called.

995
00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:30,840
Speaker 3: But I'm like, man, who is this playing game? The

996
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:34,040
Speaker 3: Saint Pick? And he was like this Pick and then

997
00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:36,560
Speaker 3: it's all this I said, oh shit, this is Tupac

998
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:38,840
Speaker 3: and he was like, you got some music. I was like, yeah,

999
00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:42,160
Speaker 3: So like I made that go sound. So I grabbed

1000
00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:47,040
Speaker 3: my uh drum machine, grabbed my creative records, grabbed my

1001
00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:51,160
Speaker 3: my uh my bladder at it al and uh jumped

1002
00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:53,920
Speaker 3: in my rigal and shot straight up that go sound.

1003
00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:57,400
Speaker 3: Walked in there and it was him, and Uh I

1004
00:54:57,440 --> 00:55:00,000
Speaker 3: went straight to work, started popping dish in the drummers

1005
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:03,920
Speaker 3: shan't planning it, yeah, and we came up with a

1006
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:07,840
Speaker 3: hit fast too. He wrote that record in like thirty

1007
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:12,000
Speaker 3: about thirty five forty minutes definition of a third. After

1008
00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:14,759
Speaker 3: we talked, we sat right there and talked with each

1009
00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:22,720
Speaker 3: other for We talked for maybe like maybe an hour

1010
00:55:23,239 --> 00:55:25,279
Speaker 3: cause he was asking me questions. He was like he

1011
00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:31,560
Speaker 3: was interviewing me, right, and uh so it's like he

1012
00:55:31,600 --> 00:55:33,400
Speaker 3: took some of the things that I told him. He

1013
00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:36,600
Speaker 3: put that in that song. That that that he went

1014
00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:39,040
Speaker 3: in there and laid. He laid it in like thirty

1015
00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:43,399
Speaker 3: five forty minutes and knocked it down fast. And then

1016
00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:45,040
Speaker 3: he got a call at one of his buddies that

1017
00:55:45,120 --> 00:55:48,680
Speaker 3: got shot. So he came in. He said, Warren, you

1018
00:55:48,719 --> 00:55:50,359
Speaker 3: got something for me, I want to do a song

1019
00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:53,640
Speaker 3: for my buddy that just got killed, So I dropped

1020
00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:58,319
Speaker 3: a I actually did a flip a record that I

1021
00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:06,359
Speaker 3: flipped already on on another record, and uh gave it

1022
00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:08,160
Speaker 3: to him and then he did a song on it

1023
00:56:08,239 --> 00:56:10,640
Speaker 3: and it worked on that on his record.

1024
00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:13,120
Speaker 1: So that's how long we do?

1025
00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:13,520
Speaker 2: Morm me?

1026
00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:14,560
Speaker 3: How long were they warm?

1027
00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:14,680
Speaker 4: Me?

1028
00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:20,759
Speaker 3: I had a song called super Soul says, which used

1029
00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:24,040
Speaker 3: the same sample, and how long will They Warming? Was

1030
00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:26,839
Speaker 3: that same sample. I used the same sample on two

1031
00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:34,399
Speaker 3: different albums, Wow, and it worked on both of Yeah.

1032
00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:41,440
Speaker 1: Tupac he worked with, He worked with Mike. You're no

1033
00:56:41,640 --> 00:56:42,160
Speaker 1: not Tupac.

1034
00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:46,920
Speaker 2: You did Yeah. So I mean to see and every

1035
00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:50,520
Speaker 2: once in a while, you're here Mike singing acapella, and

1036
00:56:50,600 --> 00:56:53,800
Speaker 2: then you could hear his voice, you could understand. I

1037
00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:56,520
Speaker 2: can only imagine what Michael would be in the Internet era,

1038
00:56:57,040 --> 00:57:00,919
Speaker 2: because people are fainting. People would go and zert, Yeah,

1039
00:57:01,080 --> 00:57:04,680
Speaker 2: he sold a hundred million albums. Yeah, ain't nobody saying

1040
00:57:04,680 --> 00:57:05,479
Speaker 2: them a hundred million?

1041
00:57:05,560 --> 00:57:07,920
Speaker 3: Nothing now nowhere near it.

1042
00:57:08,719 --> 00:57:11,400
Speaker 2: So he was doing he was, he was doing that.

1043
00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:13,920
Speaker 2: But to be in the studio with Mike and to

1044
00:57:14,040 --> 00:57:15,840
Speaker 2: hear his his natural voice.

1045
00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:17,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, what was that?

1046
00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:25,880
Speaker 3: Like? Shit, I almost fainted ship so you yeah. Uh.

1047
00:57:26,840 --> 00:57:30,720
Speaker 3: Bruce and Renee were two guys he was working with. Uh.

1048
00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:33,800
Speaker 3: They was his his producers and they were fans of

1049
00:57:33,880 --> 00:57:36,960
Speaker 3: my music. So they called me and they was like,

1050
00:57:37,080 --> 00:57:39,920
Speaker 3: we want you to produce some records for Michael. And

1051
00:57:40,800 --> 00:57:46,600
Speaker 3: I was like, hell, no, y'all, y'all Michael Jackson I was.

1052
00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:49,240
Speaker 3: They was like, yeah, Michael Jackson. I was like, oh

1053
00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:54,080
Speaker 3: my god. I couldn't believe it. And uh, well, they

1054
00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:56,360
Speaker 3: was like, he wants to meet you. And I was like,

1055
00:57:57,400 --> 00:57:59,440
Speaker 3: are you serious? They like, he wants to meet you.

1056
00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:05,480
Speaker 3: So went up there. Uh. He was at actually a

1057
00:58:05,600 --> 00:58:10,520
Speaker 3: Record one studio up in the valley. Uh got there,

1058
00:58:11,720 --> 00:58:15,200
Speaker 3: went inside and walked in the room and it was

1059
00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:18,640
Speaker 3: just like like, hey, what's up, man, Michael? Or da

1060
00:58:18,760 --> 00:58:21,000
Speaker 3: da da da? Like he wasn't It wasn't none of that.

1061
00:58:23,120 --> 00:58:23,880
Speaker 3: It wasn't none of that.

1062
00:58:24,200 --> 00:58:26,720
Speaker 2: That's what I heard people say. His normal voice was

1063
00:58:26,840 --> 00:58:28,320
Speaker 2: not like none of that.

1064
00:58:28,440 --> 00:58:31,120
Speaker 3: He was like what's up, man? Like man, like you know,

1065
00:58:31,240 --> 00:58:34,880
Speaker 3: da da da da. Like I'm like, my god, I'm

1066
00:58:34,880 --> 00:58:37,240
Speaker 3: about to lose it right now. I'm about to about

1067
00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:39,080
Speaker 3: the paint. I'm about to do everything. I'm about to

1068
00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:43,600
Speaker 3: just go crazy right now. I couldn't believe it. And

1069
00:58:43,760 --> 00:58:46,000
Speaker 3: he said he loved my music and that that that

1070
00:58:46,120 --> 00:58:51,120
Speaker 3: blew me away. Uh, just for him to say that,

1071
00:58:51,240 --> 00:58:53,280
Speaker 3: I I I d I just I ain't. I ain't

1072
00:58:53,560 --> 00:58:55,440
Speaker 3: even right now, I ain't eve I I ain't. I.

1073
00:58:55,600 --> 00:58:59,800
Speaker 3: I can't even explain how uh how happy I was

1074
00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:07,200
Speaker 3: and how how I had anxiety so bad. Uh, just like, wow,

1075
00:59:08,040 --> 00:59:10,920
Speaker 3: this is this is my this is Michael Jackson right

1076
00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:14,560
Speaker 3: here right now. And UH did some did the work,

1077
00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:16,400
Speaker 3: you know, I did some music for him. He loved

1078
00:59:16,440 --> 00:59:21,960
Speaker 3: the music. He recorded the songs. And I also had

1079
00:59:22,040 --> 00:59:24,320
Speaker 3: told him, you know, cause he was kind of like

1080
00:59:24,440 --> 00:59:26,400
Speaker 3: at that time, he had a little bit of uh

1081
00:59:26,880 --> 00:59:29,560
Speaker 3: it was a little bit of backlash, like some bad press.

1082
00:59:30,640 --> 00:59:33,439
Speaker 3: And I told him that what you do is don't

1083
00:59:34,440 --> 00:59:39,000
Speaker 3: don't don't sit up there and be sad about it.

1084
00:59:39,640 --> 00:59:43,040
Speaker 3: Do a song back at them, you know, for putting

1085
00:59:43,120 --> 00:59:46,400
Speaker 3: that that that bullshit out, the fake shit. Oh you

1086
00:59:46,640 --> 00:59:50,200
Speaker 3: you do a song back at him, you know. And

1087
00:59:50,320 --> 00:59:54,800
Speaker 3: that's what he did. Uh. It wasn't one of my tracks.

1088
00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:56,600
Speaker 3: I I can't remember the song, but it was a

1089
00:59:56,800 --> 01:00:04,360
Speaker 3: uh uh what song was that. Uh it was where

1090
01:00:04,400 --> 01:00:06,400
Speaker 3: he was talking. He was talking ship back to the

1091
01:00:06,480 --> 01:00:09,120
Speaker 3: press and back to everybody that was it was a song.

1092
01:00:09,400 --> 01:00:14,360
Speaker 3: Uh uh huh, I can't. I can't get it off

1093
01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:17,960
Speaker 3: top having a brain fark because.

1094
01:00:17,640 --> 01:00:20,000
Speaker 2: You saying that, and a lot of people believe that

1095
01:00:20,120 --> 01:00:23,200
Speaker 2: the industry, because he had become so big, he had

1096
01:00:23,240 --> 01:00:26,120
Speaker 2: become so popular, he had become so powerful. You hear

1097
01:00:26,160 --> 01:00:29,560
Speaker 2: about him wanting to buy this record label and this

1098
01:00:30,720 --> 01:00:37,760
Speaker 2: uh television company and they just couldn't have that purchased

1099
01:00:37,760 --> 01:00:41,400
Speaker 2: the Beatles catalog. Plus he had his own catalog, so

1100
01:00:41,840 --> 01:00:44,520
Speaker 2: he had the two most popular catalogs that were created.

1101
01:00:45,120 --> 01:00:51,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I you know, out of out of I mean

1102
01:00:54,240 --> 01:00:59,439
Speaker 3: I can't, I don't. I can't see nobody like stopping somebody, well,

1103
01:01:00,000 --> 01:01:03,560
Speaker 3: well stop him, you know, stopping somebody from getting involved

1104
01:01:03,640 --> 01:01:07,600
Speaker 3: and you know, buying this, a buying that. If he

1105
01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:09,320
Speaker 3: got the money to get it, then it is what

1106
01:01:09,440 --> 01:01:15,760
Speaker 3: it is, right. Uh. But I I I don't know,

1107
01:01:16,120 --> 01:01:17,680
Speaker 3: I don't. I mean, I just I just you know,

1108
01:01:17,840 --> 01:01:21,240
Speaker 3: I I think that you know, he was just exhausted

1109
01:01:21,320 --> 01:01:24,360
Speaker 3: with all that was going on as far as like that, uh,

1110
01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:27,960
Speaker 3: that that case he had that he was going through.

1111
01:01:29,080 --> 01:01:31,240
Speaker 3: I think a lot of that stuff was wearing tear

1112
01:01:31,360 --> 01:01:34,040
Speaker 3: on him, you know, and he just just was just

1113
01:01:34,280 --> 01:01:35,360
Speaker 3: wore out, you know.

1114
01:01:35,800 --> 01:01:37,919
Speaker 2: And he had been Michael Jackson for so long. Yeah,

1115
01:01:38,040 --> 01:01:39,880
Speaker 2: I mean from the time he's probably six or seven

1116
01:01:39,960 --> 01:01:42,360
Speaker 2: years old. He couldn't go anywhere. Yeah, he couldn't do anything.

1117
01:01:42,440 --> 01:01:44,840
Speaker 2: He had he had a he had a very lonely life.

1118
01:01:45,160 --> 01:01:47,800
Speaker 2: He had a life of isolation. Yeah, cause just thin

1119
01:01:48,080 --> 01:01:50,520
Speaker 2: he could he could. He could never do anything that

1120
01:01:50,600 --> 01:01:52,280
Speaker 2: a six or seven year old. He couldn't do what

1121
01:01:52,400 --> 01:01:54,400
Speaker 2: a thirteen fourteen year old do. He couldn't do what

1122
01:01:54,480 --> 01:01:55,880
Speaker 2: a twenty five, twenty six year old do.

1123
01:01:56,120 --> 01:01:56,880
Speaker 1: He couldn't do what a.

1124
01:01:56,920 --> 01:01:57,920
Speaker 2: Thirty fourty year old do.

1125
01:01:58,160 --> 01:02:00,160
Speaker 1: He could never he could never do any of that.

1126
01:02:00,440 --> 01:02:03,240
Speaker 3: None of it. And and I think it was a

1127
01:02:03,320 --> 01:02:07,320
Speaker 3: lot of that wear and tear, just like with all

1128
01:02:07,400 --> 01:02:09,920
Speaker 3: of with all of that, along with people trying to

1129
01:02:09,960 --> 01:02:13,520
Speaker 3: blame him for different things, it's like, you know, it's

1130
01:02:13,600 --> 01:02:15,680
Speaker 3: at the end of the day, it just war and

1131
01:02:15,800 --> 01:02:16,400
Speaker 3: tore on him.

1132
01:02:16,520 --> 01:02:16,720
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1133
01:02:17,640 --> 01:02:17,840
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1134
01:02:19,200 --> 01:02:21,200
Speaker 1: Is it true you turned down an opportunity to meet

1135
01:02:21,320 --> 01:02:22,000
Speaker 1: the uh Prince?

1136
01:02:23,320 --> 01:02:24,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I did.

1137
01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:27,800
Speaker 2: Uh damn, you don't believe nobody, no, no.

1138
01:02:27,960 --> 01:02:30,360
Speaker 3: What I what I what what I I just Uh,

1139
01:02:32,960 --> 01:02:35,080
Speaker 3: it was just I I just thought Prince. I mean

1140
01:02:35,160 --> 01:02:37,680
Speaker 3: I I loved him as an artist like I was.

1141
01:02:37,880 --> 01:02:40,280
Speaker 3: I really loved love him as an artist, loved him

1142
01:02:40,320 --> 01:02:45,560
Speaker 3: and loved him as an artist. The he was just

1143
01:02:45,920 --> 01:02:49,400
Speaker 3: I just wouldn't you know, just like why do he

1144
01:02:49,480 --> 01:02:51,640
Speaker 3: want me to come sit down with him? And but

1145
01:02:51,800 --> 01:02:55,040
Speaker 3: I was young, so I'm like, you know, I'm like, shit,

1146
01:02:55,200 --> 01:02:57,760
Speaker 3: this month might be trying to hit on me or something.

1147
01:02:59,440 --> 01:03:02,959
Speaker 3: So I'm young, not you not thinking about he wants

1148
01:03:03,400 --> 01:03:05,640
Speaker 3: his business, come sit down with Go sit down with

1149
01:03:05,720 --> 01:03:08,280
Speaker 3: this dude. After I after, you know, when I thought

1150
01:03:08,320 --> 01:03:10,640
Speaker 3: about it later on, I'm like I should have went

1151
01:03:10,760 --> 01:03:14,240
Speaker 3: sat my ass down with Prince and really got game

1152
01:03:14,320 --> 01:03:16,400
Speaker 3: from him, learned got a lot of knowledge from him,

1153
01:03:17,040 --> 01:03:20,960
Speaker 3: you know, instead of thinking a different way like what

1154
01:03:21,160 --> 01:03:23,880
Speaker 3: do he want with me? Like what do do?

1155
01:03:24,000 --> 01:03:24,040
Speaker 4: What?

1156
01:03:24,200 --> 01:03:25,880
Speaker 3: He won't like what's up? Are you?

1157
01:03:26,680 --> 01:03:27,080
Speaker 2: What? What?

1158
01:03:27,440 --> 01:03:31,360
Speaker 3: What you know? But I still was was a die

1159
01:03:31,440 --> 01:03:34,640
Speaker 3: hard Prince fan, still still a fan of him.

1160
01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:36,240
Speaker 2: But you.

1161
01:03:37,720 --> 01:03:40,720
Speaker 3: Got a chance to meet him a really cool dude.

1162
01:03:41,880 --> 01:03:45,000
Speaker 3: Uh just had a lot of knowledge, like a lot

1163
01:03:45,080 --> 01:03:47,920
Speaker 3: of knowledge and just would would give me a lot

1164
01:03:48,000 --> 01:03:50,720
Speaker 3: of game on ship like the industry and.

1165
01:03:52,560 --> 01:03:52,960
Speaker 2: What he was.

1166
01:03:53,040 --> 01:03:55,080
Speaker 3: He was a cool dude. But that was another one

1167
01:03:55,120 --> 01:03:59,080
Speaker 3: of those things just being young that I regret not doing.

1168
01:03:59,480 --> 01:04:01,400
Speaker 3: You know, I should have went, you know, and all

1169
01:04:01,520 --> 01:04:04,920
Speaker 3: my folks was like, bo, you better go, you.

1170
01:04:05,000 --> 01:04:07,600
Speaker 1: Better go seuper there right, what is wrong with you?

1171
01:04:08,840 --> 01:04:13,720
Speaker 3: Like? Oh, man, I just don't you know, and never

1172
01:04:13,800 --> 01:04:15,800
Speaker 3: get I could didn't get the record clear that I

1173
01:04:15,880 --> 01:04:18,280
Speaker 3: wanted to to clear for it cause I I redid

1174
01:04:18,360 --> 01:04:21,360
Speaker 3: one of his records that was me and Nate again,

1175
01:04:21,520 --> 01:04:24,200
Speaker 3: it was it was a bona fide right.

1176
01:04:24,160 --> 01:04:26,120
Speaker 1: See now if you they were in Southway, you probably

1177
01:04:26,160 --> 01:04:26,840
Speaker 1: could have gotten clear.

1178
01:04:27,360 --> 01:04:31,680
Speaker 3: Sh man. I I was just like, man, I'm I

1179
01:04:32,040 --> 01:04:34,240
Speaker 3: I just you know, I just I was young, just

1180
01:04:34,400 --> 01:04:36,440
Speaker 3: like you know what, I I ain't getting ready to

1181
01:04:36,480 --> 01:04:38,800
Speaker 3: go out there. Shit, I don't know. I don't I

1182
01:04:38,840 --> 01:04:40,520
Speaker 3: don't know what he wants, what he want me out

1183
01:04:40,520 --> 01:04:45,400
Speaker 3: there for? Shit? You know. But you know it was

1184
01:04:45,600 --> 01:04:50,440
Speaker 3: just to have a conversation and and and meet the

1185
01:04:50,560 --> 01:04:54,360
Speaker 3: guy who wants to use some of my music, right,

1186
01:04:54,520 --> 01:04:56,560
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. But I wasn't thinking like that.

1187
01:04:57,520 --> 01:05:00,320
Speaker 3: I was all over the place, like just is.

1188
01:05:00,360 --> 01:05:04,160
Speaker 2: It the other than Prince and Michael and Michael, have

1189
01:05:04,280 --> 01:05:07,400
Speaker 2: you ever been starstruck? Who else been? Got you starstruck?

1190
01:05:08,880 --> 01:05:15,320
Speaker 3: Anita Baker like all of the all of the uh

1191
01:05:16,120 --> 01:05:19,000
Speaker 3: the the the O G h Ogs before me, all

1192
01:05:19,120 --> 01:05:24,960
Speaker 3: of them. Uh, just like Anita Baker was like I

1193
01:05:25,160 --> 01:05:27,880
Speaker 3: was like this. I was in love with her music

1194
01:05:27,960 --> 01:05:34,800
Speaker 3: from the Tiny Tiny Kids, So uh let me see

1195
01:05:34,920 --> 01:05:39,080
Speaker 3: just like all I was anybody I would meet, just

1196
01:05:40,200 --> 01:05:43,040
Speaker 3: I was. I was like, I can't believe I'm here,

1197
01:05:43,360 --> 01:05:48,280
Speaker 3: yes Cha Ka Khana, uh, which I've been around her. Uh,

1198
01:05:49,440 --> 01:05:51,960
Speaker 3: I've been around all of them, Tina, Marie and just

1199
01:05:52,640 --> 01:05:57,720
Speaker 3: everybody like Murphy, Charlie Murphy's and just everybody, Like I

1200
01:05:57,800 --> 01:06:03,240
Speaker 3: didn't been around everybody and them me being like stars

1201
01:06:03,280 --> 01:06:07,760
Speaker 3: struck towards them and they like fans and me like like, man,

1202
01:06:08,120 --> 01:06:13,880
Speaker 3: that's warranty, and I'm like, y'all this is crazy. Yeah,

1203
01:06:14,120 --> 01:06:15,919
Speaker 3: but it's uh.

1204
01:06:17,480 --> 01:06:21,640
Speaker 2: You did uh Chloe's birthday party? Huh what was that?

1205
01:06:21,840 --> 01:06:26,520
Speaker 3: Like? It was dope? Uh it w it w it

1206
01:06:26,680 --> 01:06:30,680
Speaker 3: was dope. A lot of lot of uh a lot

1207
01:06:30,720 --> 01:06:35,000
Speaker 3: of beautiful women up in there. Uh it was like this.

1208
01:06:35,280 --> 01:06:41,080
Speaker 3: It was like pink everywhere and uh Chloe and uh

1209
01:06:41,840 --> 01:06:44,120
Speaker 3: Kim came up to me and they they was just

1210
01:06:44,280 --> 01:06:50,200
Speaker 3: like regulateds is our favorite song ever. And I was

1211
01:06:50,320 --> 01:06:54,280
Speaker 3: like what she was like, that is our So when

1212
01:06:54,320 --> 01:06:56,400
Speaker 3: I did it, they was just like they was right

1213
01:06:56,480 --> 01:07:01,600
Speaker 3: there in the front dancing and uh. That was just

1214
01:07:01,800 --> 01:07:04,720
Speaker 3: that was that was like a dope moment, Like damn,

1215
01:07:05,480 --> 01:07:08,960
Speaker 3: like the the Kardashians love my shit. They like this

1216
01:07:09,160 --> 01:07:11,000
Speaker 3: is their favorite shit. So that was that was a

1217
01:07:12,280 --> 01:07:16,080
Speaker 3: h h that was a moment, man, a really really

1218
01:07:16,400 --> 01:07:20,040
Speaker 3: uh a special moment, just to get that love from him.

1219
01:07:20,440 --> 01:07:23,000
Speaker 3: And then I seen a clip of her and uh

1220
01:07:23,160 --> 01:07:26,080
Speaker 3: Kanye in the car and they was banging regularly singing

1221
01:07:26,120 --> 01:07:27,080
Speaker 3: it together banging.

1222
01:07:27,760 --> 01:07:30,840
Speaker 2: I was like, Wow, what's the wildest party of event

1223
01:07:30,960 --> 01:07:31,360
Speaker 2: you've done?

1224
01:07:33,120 --> 01:07:40,120
Speaker 3: Uh? Oh we shit, I'm gonna say this. I uh

1225
01:07:40,400 --> 01:07:44,080
Speaker 3: the wildest party I'd never been to was uh wedding

1226
01:07:44,200 --> 01:07:48,720
Speaker 3: wild uh nw a easy in nw a wedding wild.

1227
01:07:48,760 --> 01:07:52,280
Speaker 3: That was the wildest party I ever been to. That

1228
01:07:52,440 --> 01:07:55,160
Speaker 3: I well, I didn't, I didn't m I my parties

1229
01:07:55,280 --> 01:07:59,040
Speaker 3: wasn't that wild. But that that NWA party uh easy

1230
01:07:59,080 --> 01:08:01,520
Speaker 3: and NW wasn't. Wow. That was party that w that

1231
01:08:01,760 --> 01:08:06,760
Speaker 3: that party was uh uh wild. You know, it was

1232
01:08:06,800 --> 01:08:09,400
Speaker 3: a lot of lot of Uh. I was I was

1233
01:08:09,480 --> 01:08:11,920
Speaker 3: a young kid though, but I was I was a

1234
01:08:12,000 --> 01:08:15,280
Speaker 3: young teen. I think I was about fourteen fifteen somewhere

1235
01:08:15,280 --> 01:08:18,439
Speaker 3: around there around that time when I went to that

1236
01:08:19,360 --> 01:08:24,360
Speaker 3: and uh w I it was it was good old time,

1237
01:08:24,920 --> 01:08:26,120
Speaker 3: good old times. It was.

1238
01:08:26,240 --> 01:08:27,400
Speaker 1: It was cracking.

1239
01:08:29,240 --> 01:08:31,280
Speaker 3: And they they you know, they treated me like one

1240
01:08:31,320 --> 01:08:34,680
Speaker 3: of the fellas. Yes, I got the the the h

1241
01:08:34,880 --> 01:08:37,479
Speaker 3: you know, a grown man treatment in there.

1242
01:08:38,560 --> 01:08:43,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, you produce uh jez leave You Alone is there

1243
01:08:43,720 --> 01:08:47,320
Speaker 2: are a lot of songs that people wouldn't guess that

1244
01:08:47,439 --> 01:08:48,439
Speaker 2: you've actually produced.

1245
01:08:49,280 --> 01:08:54,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, what's a lot of them out out there that

1246
01:08:54,160 --> 01:08:57,040
Speaker 3: people don't they You know, I did Leave You Alone?

1247
01:08:58,280 --> 01:09:02,720
Speaker 3: Uh for young Jeezy. I've i've uh even even uh

1248
01:09:03,040 --> 01:09:06,040
Speaker 3: you gotta get yours. I gotta get mine. Uh with

1249
01:09:06,439 --> 01:09:09,320
Speaker 3: uh mc breed in Tupac, you gotta get yours. I

1250
01:09:09,400 --> 01:09:11,400
Speaker 3: gotta get my people like bo. When you did that,

1251
01:09:11,560 --> 01:09:14,800
Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, that was that's once again. That

1252
01:09:14,920 --> 01:09:16,720
Speaker 3: was one of the first records that I had a

1253
01:09:17,120 --> 01:09:20,240
Speaker 3: shot at producing, and they ended up being one of

1254
01:09:20,320 --> 01:09:21,559
Speaker 3: their biggest records together.

1255
01:09:21,920 --> 01:09:22,080
Speaker 2: Right.

1256
01:09:24,280 --> 01:09:27,080
Speaker 3: But I've done a lot of I done produced for

1257
01:09:28,360 --> 01:09:31,759
Speaker 3: New addition, a lot of lot of groups. Brian Eisley,

1258
01:09:31,800 --> 01:09:33,799
Speaker 3: I don't produced for a lot of lot of artists,

1259
01:09:35,680 --> 01:09:39,000
Speaker 3: even younger or even today artists are today. I've I've

1260
01:09:39,680 --> 01:09:41,200
Speaker 3: you know, I've been working with a lot of the

1261
01:09:41,320 --> 01:09:45,400
Speaker 3: younger artists, you know, because my my mindset is you

1262
01:09:45,560 --> 01:09:48,120
Speaker 3: never too old to make a hit record. And you know,

1263
01:09:48,200 --> 01:09:51,080
Speaker 3: I don't try to just because these guys are young

1264
01:09:51,240 --> 01:09:53,800
Speaker 3: and they doing this and doing that. I give them

1265
01:09:53,880 --> 01:09:57,240
Speaker 3: knowledge and I direct them in a in a on

1266
01:09:57,360 --> 01:09:59,840
Speaker 3: a in a different path. And they called me like

1267
01:10:00,360 --> 01:10:02,479
Speaker 3: what about such and such and this that this, and

1268
01:10:02,560 --> 01:10:04,720
Speaker 3: then I'll give him tell him okay, you should do this,

1269
01:10:05,720 --> 01:10:07,400
Speaker 3: you know. So I I'm kind of like a big

1270
01:10:07,479 --> 01:10:12,479
Speaker 3: brother and as well as you know us working a

1271
01:10:12,600 --> 01:10:16,320
Speaker 3: business relationship, work business work relationship with different artists.

1272
01:10:17,040 --> 01:10:18,519
Speaker 1: Have you ever got an opportunity to work with a

1273
01:10:18,800 --> 01:10:19,759
Speaker 1: M fifty?

1274
01:10:20,720 --> 01:10:24,360
Speaker 3: Uh No, No, haven't got a chance to work with him.

1275
01:10:24,560 --> 01:10:27,800
Speaker 3: Uh I would love to do a record with M

1276
01:10:28,160 --> 01:10:33,800
Speaker 3: or fifty producer track for either one of them. Just

1277
01:10:33,880 --> 01:10:37,000
Speaker 3: gotta get around him and play some tracks. You know,

1278
01:10:37,920 --> 01:10:41,960
Speaker 3: when you heard about em man, it's is white.

1279
01:10:42,040 --> 01:10:44,679
Speaker 2: There's a white there's a white dude without a Michigan Detroit.

1280
01:10:46,040 --> 01:10:49,840
Speaker 2: But he liked that because the laugh white dude, you

1281
01:10:49,880 --> 01:10:54,640
Speaker 2: probably think you probably think of ll lives. You're like, uh,

1282
01:10:54,880 --> 01:10:57,200
Speaker 2: come on, come on now, come on now listen.

1283
01:10:57,320 --> 01:10:58,559
Speaker 3: Nah nah nah.

1284
01:11:00,040 --> 01:11:05,160
Speaker 2: He he he up there. Yeah, when you when you

1285
01:11:05,400 --> 01:11:08,000
Speaker 2: first heard it, they said that that's him, that's the

1286
01:11:08,080 --> 01:11:11,519
Speaker 2: one I was telling about. That's m that's a white dude.

1287
01:11:11,920 --> 01:11:15,639
Speaker 3: Yeah. We was like, who was this white mother up

1288
01:11:15,720 --> 01:11:17,800
Speaker 3: in here in the studio because we this this was

1289
01:11:17,880 --> 01:11:20,479
Speaker 3: our ship when they had first brought him around. Yeah,

1290
01:11:20,880 --> 01:11:22,800
Speaker 3: it was like, who was this mother fuping here? All

1291
01:11:22,880 --> 01:11:25,840
Speaker 3: of us like, cause this motherfuck he got up in there,

1292
01:11:26,520 --> 01:11:32,320
Speaker 3: this hard ship, and uh, that motherfucker was busting. It

1293
01:11:32,439 --> 01:11:38,760
Speaker 3: was like a god damn he he hardest. Uh ended

1294
01:11:38,840 --> 01:11:44,320
Speaker 3: up he ended up being the incredible you know, incredible

1295
01:11:44,360 --> 01:11:48,799
Speaker 3: and really really uh jailed right into what we already

1296
01:11:48,880 --> 01:11:50,000
Speaker 3: had moving musically.

1297
01:11:50,920 --> 01:11:51,880
Speaker 1: Where would you rank im?

1298
01:11:52,080 --> 01:11:55,280
Speaker 2: Because people seemed like, because you know, hip hop where

1299
01:11:55,280 --> 01:11:56,759
Speaker 2: it originated.

1300
01:11:56,280 --> 01:11:58,760
Speaker 1: How and so many of us and that they're not

1301
01:11:58,960 --> 01:12:02,160
Speaker 1: very many. M. He's very unique. We understand that.

1302
01:12:02,640 --> 01:12:04,559
Speaker 2: And I I don't think people give him the credit

1303
01:12:04,640 --> 01:12:07,360
Speaker 2: that he deserves because he he's white and and and

1304
01:12:07,560 --> 01:12:10,519
Speaker 2: that's our genre. You know, hip hop is us raps

1305
01:12:10,600 --> 01:12:14,080
Speaker 2: us gangster raps us and so sometimes I don't think

1306
01:12:14,120 --> 01:12:15,799
Speaker 2: people give him the credit that he deserves.

1307
01:12:16,600 --> 01:12:22,040
Speaker 3: He had. He definitely in the top the top, and

1308
01:12:22,200 --> 01:12:24,880
Speaker 3: he in the top fifteen. I don't I don't wanna.

1309
01:12:25,120 --> 01:12:28,200
Speaker 3: I don't wanna make it too small like the top tinkers.

1310
01:12:28,240 --> 01:12:32,040
Speaker 3: There's some dope motherfuckers, uh, heavy hitters, heavy hitters. He

1311
01:12:32,200 --> 01:12:38,840
Speaker 3: definitely in that in that top fifteen. He dope he

1312
01:12:39,120 --> 01:12:42,280
Speaker 3: he dope he see he Eminem is a MC he

1313
01:12:42,479 --> 01:12:46,559
Speaker 3: he he he has straight hip hop, straight hip hop.

1314
01:12:46,840 --> 01:12:49,560
Speaker 3: It's not he wasn't on like what we was on.

1315
01:12:49,720 --> 01:12:52,960
Speaker 3: We was more storytelling. It was hip hop, but we

1316
01:12:53,120 --> 01:12:57,240
Speaker 3: was more storytelling and telling, uh a story about our

1317
01:12:57,320 --> 01:12:59,880
Speaker 3: life and making it like a movie on on Wax.

1318
01:13:01,040 --> 01:13:04,360
Speaker 3: And he was more of the straight hip hop straight

1319
01:13:04,400 --> 01:13:08,080
Speaker 3: at you battle m see, but could tell a story

1320
01:13:08,160 --> 01:13:11,800
Speaker 3: at the same time. But it's still in his way

1321
01:13:11,880 --> 01:13:13,600
Speaker 3: and the and his element the way he do it

1322
01:13:13,760 --> 01:13:18,200
Speaker 3: in a hip in an m C way, right. But

1323
01:13:20,880 --> 01:13:23,080
Speaker 3: when he wrote the ship, like the stuff that he

1324
01:13:23,200 --> 01:13:26,280
Speaker 3: writes for Dre and the way, I was like, this

1325
01:13:26,520 --> 01:13:29,400
Speaker 3: motherfucker right here, he can write this, and then it

1326
01:13:29,520 --> 01:13:30,000
Speaker 3: turned it down.

1327
01:13:32,400 --> 01:13:34,000
Speaker 1: It's amazing because when.

1328
01:13:35,760 --> 01:13:40,200
Speaker 2: You five found out that it was Hole that wrote

1329
01:13:40,800 --> 01:13:44,439
Speaker 2: Dre Day for Dre and you hear m right, like, how.

1330
01:13:44,320 --> 01:13:46,479
Speaker 3: Did they write that for him?

1331
01:13:47,120 --> 01:13:49,519
Speaker 2: And it sounded like he actually wrote it for himself.

1332
01:13:49,840 --> 01:13:53,679
Speaker 3: How how did he do that? That was I tripped

1333
01:13:53,680 --> 01:13:57,360
Speaker 3: off of that thing. This ain't the same for gangsters, Emma,

1334
01:13:57,360 --> 01:13:59,840
Speaker 3: and then wrote that that ship was That's one of

1335
01:13:59,840 --> 01:14:01,160
Speaker 3: them my favorite.

1336
01:14:00,760 --> 01:14:02,200
Speaker 1: Songs on that album.

1337
01:14:03,240 --> 01:14:07,600
Speaker 3: Boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom. I was like,

1338
01:14:09,040 --> 01:14:18,240
Speaker 3: this mother is dope. Yeah. I was like, wow, Yeah,

1339
01:14:18,760 --> 01:14:22,920
Speaker 3: that's still one of my favorite songs. Yeah, to this day,

1340
01:14:24,520 --> 01:14:25,640
Speaker 3: is is Kendrick.

1341
01:14:25,400 --> 01:14:26,240
Speaker 1: The new King of l A.

1342
01:14:26,720 --> 01:14:28,040
Speaker 3: You're gonna have me drug up here?

1343
01:14:28,400 --> 01:14:29,240
Speaker 2: That? Hey, that's it?

1344
01:14:32,320 --> 01:14:34,800
Speaker 3: Yes, indeed, this is This is so good. I keep

1345
01:14:34,920 --> 01:14:35,360
Speaker 3: down in it.

1346
01:14:37,120 --> 01:14:38,719
Speaker 2: We're gonna we're gonna see your home with a bottle.

1347
01:14:38,760 --> 01:14:41,640
Speaker 2: We gonna see I mean, we're gonna see you with

1348
01:14:42,080 --> 01:14:47,160
Speaker 2: but we were gonna see y'all with with two bottles.

1349
01:14:47,200 --> 01:14:54,800
Speaker 3: But as y'all can see, we would getting it in. Yes, indeed, Kendrick, how.

1350
01:14:54,880 --> 01:14:55,600
Speaker 1: Surprised are you?

1351
01:14:55,840 --> 01:14:58,080
Speaker 2: Because I've always thought he's been a great storyteller and

1352
01:14:58,280 --> 01:15:01,280
Speaker 2: and and but this last year and a half with

1353
01:15:01,400 --> 01:15:03,960
Speaker 2: the five Brandmans in the halftime show, and and.

1354
01:15:04,439 --> 01:15:06,519
Speaker 1: He's just going to He's just going to a different level.

1355
01:15:07,200 --> 01:15:13,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, Kendrick Kendrick UH definitely has has uh solidified as

1356
01:15:13,160 --> 01:15:18,519
Speaker 3: his his position on the West Coast. I can't say king.

1357
01:15:19,479 --> 01:15:20,680
Speaker 1: King right now though he might not be.

1358
01:15:21,760 --> 01:15:24,080
Speaker 2: He might not be, Yeah, but he made a name

1359
01:15:24,080 --> 01:15:25,960
Speaker 2: for himself because it's gonna be hard to break. When

1360
01:15:26,000 --> 01:15:27,920
Speaker 2: you look at the West, you look at Snoop, and

1361
01:15:28,000 --> 01:15:29,760
Speaker 2: you look at Q, when you look at Dra and

1362
01:15:29,840 --> 01:15:33,280
Speaker 2: you look at uh a forty and you look at

1363
01:15:33,400 --> 01:15:34,920
Speaker 2: some of the guys that came out of the West

1364
01:15:35,000 --> 01:15:39,800
Speaker 2: Coast park you like he, but now you're like, Okay,

1365
01:15:40,479 --> 01:15:42,200
Speaker 2: you don't carved that a little you don't carved that

1366
01:15:42,280 --> 01:15:43,320
Speaker 2: little space for yourself.

1367
01:15:43,439 --> 01:15:49,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, he definitely UH made his mark and solidified hisself

1368
01:15:49,479 --> 01:15:51,360
Speaker 3: as one of the best to do it from the West.

1369
01:15:52,080 --> 01:15:54,680
Speaker 3: You know, I can't just say he the biggest out

1370
01:15:54,720 --> 01:15:58,680
Speaker 3: of everybody there or like ever and stuff like that.

1371
01:15:58,840 --> 01:16:02,920
Speaker 3: I can't say that. But and his generation with with

1372
01:16:03,200 --> 01:16:06,160
Speaker 3: right now, with in in his arab yes he's the king.

1373
01:16:06,320 --> 01:16:06,479
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1374
01:16:07,760 --> 01:16:10,400
Speaker 3: But as as him being the king of that younger

1375
01:16:10,479 --> 01:16:14,320
Speaker 3: generation that he's a part of now y he just

1376
01:16:14,479 --> 01:16:17,840
Speaker 3: he's the king of that. But as a whole, he

1377
01:16:17,960 --> 01:16:20,400
Speaker 3: solidified hisself to be one of the one of the

1378
01:16:20,640 --> 01:16:24,679
Speaker 3: the greatest, with the greatest, with the Snoop doggs, ice Q's,

1379
01:16:25,320 --> 01:16:28,479
Speaker 3: the Warren G's, the Doctor Dregs, the easy Ease, ice

1380
01:16:29,080 --> 01:16:32,479
Speaker 3: ice T king T. You know, it's a it's a

1381
01:16:32,720 --> 01:16:36,320
Speaker 3: uh a lot of guys the DJ quick Yeah, like

1382
01:16:36,520 --> 01:16:40,040
Speaker 3: it's a lot of guys that that that don't get mentioned,

1383
01:16:40,160 --> 01:16:43,599
Speaker 3: like like all those names I mentioned, and he's one

1384
01:16:43,640 --> 01:16:46,280
Speaker 3: of them that's in there. He's in he's in that. Now.

1385
01:16:47,720 --> 01:16:52,000
Speaker 2: When you got the news that when you started this thing,

1386
01:16:52,080 --> 01:16:55,400
Speaker 2: you was you him and Snoop. Snoop was doing his thing,

1387
01:16:55,600 --> 01:17:01,200
Speaker 2: but you and you and Nate thinking thing m cold

1388
01:17:01,280 --> 01:17:06,320
Speaker 2: or hot up and down. Yeah, you got the news

1389
01:17:06,400 --> 01:17:08,479
Speaker 2: that he was gone.

1390
01:17:11,560 --> 01:17:13,120
Speaker 1: First thought, what was the emotions?

1391
01:17:14,720 --> 01:17:20,320
Speaker 3: Uh what what when when Nate passed away? Uh? We

1392
01:17:20,520 --> 01:17:26,000
Speaker 3: actually was on tour and we heard about it right bef.

1393
01:17:26,160 --> 01:17:28,680
Speaker 3: This was like right before we was about to go

1394
01:17:28,840 --> 01:17:34,280
Speaker 3: on the stage. We was in uh Corpus Christi, and

1395
01:17:34,560 --> 01:17:42,519
Speaker 3: uh we just we cried, you know, all of us,

1396
01:17:42,680 --> 01:17:46,280
Speaker 3: just we all was in and and Snoop's room, we

1397
01:17:46,400 --> 01:17:48,719
Speaker 3: all everybody on the tour. We was all in snoop

1398
01:17:48,800 --> 01:17:53,000
Speaker 3: room and ere all of us was just just pouring out,

1399
01:17:53,160 --> 01:17:56,240
Speaker 3: just crying. We cried and cried and cried, did the

1400
01:17:56,360 --> 01:18:01,439
Speaker 3: show and came back and cried more more and just cried.

1401
01:18:01,640 --> 01:18:06,519
Speaker 3: Just couldn't believe it, you know. And we went straight

1402
01:18:06,600 --> 01:18:09,880
Speaker 3: home after that. We took off, went straight home from

1403
01:18:09,920 --> 01:18:13,760
Speaker 3: off the road and went back, went back home. Yeah,

1404
01:18:14,240 --> 01:18:19,519
Speaker 3: and and and Tabari him, yeah, and uh yeah that

1405
01:18:19,720 --> 01:18:24,160
Speaker 3: was that was uh uh like it was, it was.

1406
01:18:24,280 --> 01:18:30,160
Speaker 3: It was really bad for us, like super bad man.

1407
01:18:30,760 --> 01:18:35,080
Speaker 3: Uh well, like I said, we cried, We cried, cried, cried,

1408
01:18:35,200 --> 01:18:39,960
Speaker 3: cried cause he was so young, he's only forty ket

1409
01:18:40,000 --> 01:18:46,200
Speaker 3: up here crying. Yeah, but we we was hurt. Man.

1410
01:18:46,280 --> 01:18:49,000
Speaker 3: It's still hurt, you know, still hurt.

1411
01:18:49,200 --> 01:18:50,639
Speaker 2: What do you want this legacy? What do you want

1412
01:18:50,680 --> 01:18:53,439
Speaker 2: people to know about Nate that they don't know or

1413
01:18:53,520 --> 01:18:55,840
Speaker 2: they haven't heard of. There any story that you want

1414
01:18:55,920 --> 01:18:58,760
Speaker 2: to tell so people will get a better understanding just

1415
01:18:58,880 --> 01:18:59,760
Speaker 2: who Nate Dogg was.

1416
01:19:01,600 --> 01:19:04,320
Speaker 3: He was a good father. He was a good father

1417
01:19:04,439 --> 01:19:07,479
Speaker 3: to his kids. He took care of all his kids,

1418
01:19:09,360 --> 01:19:12,639
Speaker 3: and he was a man of God, you know, even

1419
01:19:12,680 --> 01:19:16,720
Speaker 3: though he had you know, wrote like he wrote, he

1420
01:19:16,880 --> 01:19:19,000
Speaker 3: was a man of God. He was raised in the church.

1421
01:19:19,320 --> 01:19:25,600
Speaker 3: His mother is w super church. She don't listen to

1422
01:19:25,720 --> 01:19:28,600
Speaker 3: hip hop, she don't don't wanna have nothing to do

1423
01:19:28,760 --> 01:19:33,320
Speaker 3: with it, none of that. His whole family, him and

1424
01:19:33,400 --> 01:19:37,320
Speaker 3: Sam and his sister, they all was raised in the church.

1425
01:19:37,400 --> 01:19:40,920
Speaker 3: So he was he was a a a very godly person.

1426
01:19:41,000 --> 01:19:43,600
Speaker 3: Even though he went through the things, some of the

1427
01:19:43,680 --> 01:19:45,840
Speaker 3: things that he went through, went to all of the

1428
01:19:45,920 --> 01:19:48,519
Speaker 3: stuff he went through, he was. He was a a golly,

1429
01:19:49,080 --> 01:19:52,560
Speaker 3: golly person and he was a a great dad to

1430
01:19:52,720 --> 01:19:53,280
Speaker 3: his kids.

1431
01:19:57,000 --> 01:20:01,800
Speaker 2: You been mad almost thirty years? What's the secret? I

1432
01:20:01,880 --> 01:20:03,560
Speaker 2: hear a lot of secrets. I mean, I've heard a

1433
01:20:03,560 --> 01:20:06,240
Speaker 2: lot of people that's been married twenty years, thirty years,

1434
01:20:06,760 --> 01:20:11,160
Speaker 2: forty years, fifty years. And it's gonna be interesting to

1435
01:20:11,200 --> 01:20:13,280
Speaker 2: hear what you have to say. And I'm gonna see

1436
01:20:13,320 --> 01:20:15,720
Speaker 2: high jive with what some people that's been married for

1437
01:20:15,880 --> 01:20:18,360
Speaker 2: thirty years, forty years, fifty years, what they say? What's

1438
01:20:18,360 --> 01:20:18,560
Speaker 2: the what?

1439
01:20:18,760 --> 01:20:21,400
Speaker 1: What's the trick being mad for an extended period of time?

1440
01:20:22,479 --> 01:20:27,120
Speaker 3: Just that's like, well, she my best friend, you know

1441
01:20:27,160 --> 01:20:33,400
Speaker 3: what I mean, we're best friends, and you know we'll

1442
01:20:33,560 --> 01:20:36,360
Speaker 3: if we argue, Like when we argue, or what happen

1443
01:20:36,400 --> 01:20:39,080
Speaker 3: if we argue, whatever we go at it or whatever.

1444
01:20:39,920 --> 01:20:46,400
Speaker 3: You know, I I'll go back myself and I'll say, like,

1445
01:20:46,760 --> 01:20:49,040
Speaker 3: was I wrong or was I right? Was I wrong?

1446
01:20:49,200 --> 01:20:49,639
Speaker 2: Was I right?

1447
01:20:50,400 --> 01:20:54,920
Speaker 3: Or if if she wrong or right? One of us

1448
01:20:55,000 --> 01:20:57,160
Speaker 3: are a coming say you know, and I'm sorry I

1449
01:20:57,320 --> 01:20:58,720
Speaker 3: was wrong you know what I mean?

1450
01:20:59,800 --> 01:20:59,920
Speaker 2: Uh?

1451
01:21:00,439 --> 01:21:03,000
Speaker 3: Or or I'll be like you was right? You know

1452
01:21:03,120 --> 01:21:05,720
Speaker 3: I was wrong about what I said or or what

1453
01:21:05,840 --> 01:21:10,040
Speaker 3: I did or this that and this and then you know,

1454
01:21:10,560 --> 01:21:12,519
Speaker 3: but at and at the end of the day, that's

1455
01:21:12,600 --> 01:21:16,559
Speaker 3: my friend. We be friends, and that's we're not only

1456
01:21:17,240 --> 01:21:20,479
Speaker 3: husband and wife, but we friends and we joke around,

1457
01:21:20,600 --> 01:21:24,960
Speaker 3: we talk shit, have a good time, we argue. Uh,

1458
01:21:25,680 --> 01:21:30,559
Speaker 3: we don't let none of that stuff. Yeah, we cleared up.

1459
01:21:30,680 --> 01:21:30,840
Speaker 2: You know.

1460
01:21:30,960 --> 01:21:34,800
Speaker 3: Sometimes we'll get hired at each other for maybe a day,

1461
01:21:34,960 --> 01:21:38,000
Speaker 3: two days or something, you know, where we still you know,

1462
01:21:40,000 --> 01:21:44,479
Speaker 3: like you know, it ain't like you you you be.

1463
01:21:44,600 --> 01:21:47,200
Speaker 1: Man like you want to go out to eat.

1464
01:21:48,840 --> 01:21:51,760
Speaker 3: That's how that's how, that's how they start back up,

1465
01:21:51,920 --> 01:21:54,680
Speaker 3: like let's go get a bike, but want to go

1466
01:21:54,800 --> 01:21:56,640
Speaker 3: get something to eat that I swear to god, you

1467
01:21:57,200 --> 01:22:00,320
Speaker 3: hit it right on the nose and we'd take off

1468
01:22:00,360 --> 01:22:02,080
Speaker 3: and go eat, and then when we go eat, we're

1469
01:22:02,400 --> 01:22:04,679
Speaker 3: back laughing and talking and having a good time.

1470
01:22:04,760 --> 01:22:07,719
Speaker 2: And you realize the thing that we got upset about

1471
01:22:07,800 --> 01:22:09,400
Speaker 2: it really wasn't that big of a deal to begin

1472
01:22:09,600 --> 01:22:10,640
Speaker 2: with a big deal, you know.

1473
01:22:11,040 --> 01:22:14,519
Speaker 1: And uh, you know, so have you guys always been great?

1474
01:22:14,520 --> 01:22:17,160
Speaker 2: Because I hear Lebron was talking about his wife Savannah,

1475
01:22:17,200 --> 01:22:18,800
Speaker 2: and I've heard a lot of people say the number

1476
01:22:18,800 --> 01:22:24,040
Speaker 2: one thing communication. Yes, indeed, you gotta be able to communicate. Yeah,

1477
01:22:24,160 --> 01:22:26,400
Speaker 2: And I think the thing is the biggest thing is

1478
01:22:26,479 --> 01:22:29,080
Speaker 2: that the therapist told me. She said, she she told

1479
01:22:29,120 --> 01:22:33,040
Speaker 2: me one time, she said, Shannon, she said, you're speaking

1480
01:22:33,080 --> 01:22:37,080
Speaker 2: two different languages. She said, she's speaking in Mandarin and

1481
01:22:37,160 --> 01:22:40,360
Speaker 2: you're speaking in Spanish. Now, either you learn her language

1482
01:22:41,080 --> 01:22:43,559
Speaker 2: and she learns yours. So you learn how to communicate. Yeah,

1483
01:22:44,120 --> 01:22:46,800
Speaker 2: what's not gonna work? Yeah, it's really that simple.

1484
01:22:47,040 --> 01:22:52,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, we communicate And

1485
01:22:54,240 --> 01:22:54,439
Speaker 3: you know.

1486
01:22:54,960 --> 01:22:57,240
Speaker 2: Honest, you have to be transparent and something bothering. You

1487
01:22:57,360 --> 01:22:58,519
Speaker 2: got to say what's bothering?

1488
01:22:58,560 --> 01:22:59,920
Speaker 1: You not be but you have.

1489
01:23:00,280 --> 01:23:02,439
Speaker 2: But you've been together for thirty years. Probably you've been

1490
01:23:02,520 --> 01:23:04,760
Speaker 2: mad thirty years, so you probably known her for thirty

1491
01:23:04,840 --> 01:23:05,519
Speaker 2: five years.

1492
01:23:05,680 --> 01:23:09,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, and so you kind of know what makes her tick.

1493
01:23:09,439 --> 01:23:12,560
Speaker 2: She knows what makes you tick, and you kind of

1494
01:23:12,920 --> 01:23:15,439
Speaker 2: able to navigate and stay out of those those those

1495
01:23:15,600 --> 01:23:18,600
Speaker 2: landfill those where those land mines are. You kind of

1496
01:23:18,680 --> 01:23:21,160
Speaker 2: navigate that. But there obviously there's gonna be times. No

1497
01:23:22,280 --> 01:23:24,960
Speaker 2: nobody has ever been mad, and every day is a

1498
01:23:25,000 --> 01:23:25,439
Speaker 2: better road.

1499
01:23:25,640 --> 01:23:28,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like, I mean even the other day we you know,

1500
01:23:28,240 --> 01:23:33,160
Speaker 3: we we're you know, driving, you know, and uh, She'll

1501
01:23:33,200 --> 01:23:35,200
Speaker 3: be like, well you need to done that, and I'm like,

1502
01:23:35,240 --> 01:23:37,000
Speaker 3: wait a minute, hold up, why you gonna try to

1503
01:23:37,040 --> 01:23:41,880
Speaker 3: tell me how to drive? Wait a minute, I you've

1504
01:23:41,920 --> 01:23:46,280
Speaker 3: had a fender bender. I ain't never had offend like

1505
01:23:46,720 --> 01:23:50,680
Speaker 3: somebody has hit me. But I ain't never like boom like.

1506
01:23:51,720 --> 01:23:54,560
Speaker 3: But you know, and that you know that sometimes you know,

1507
01:23:54,720 --> 01:23:56,880
Speaker 3: it get me hot, you know. So we'll argue a

1508
01:23:56,920 --> 01:24:02,519
Speaker 3: little bit, and you know, we you know, we'll be.

1509
01:24:02,800 --> 01:24:03,200
Speaker 1: Mad for.

1510
01:24:05,040 --> 01:24:08,000
Speaker 3: Ten thirteen minutes and then we start back talking again.

1511
01:24:08,160 --> 01:24:11,479
Speaker 2: How difficult is to stay married being in the music business.

1512
01:24:11,640 --> 01:24:14,800
Speaker 2: You travel a lot, you around a lot of beautiful women.

1513
01:24:15,840 --> 01:24:18,920
Speaker 2: You're gone sometimes week, two weeks, three weeks at a time,

1514
01:24:19,520 --> 01:24:23,599
Speaker 2: and she has to run the house while you're out

1515
01:24:23,640 --> 01:24:26,000
Speaker 2: there doing that. But obviously we say you got to communicate,

1516
01:24:26,040 --> 01:24:28,200
Speaker 2: you have an understanding. You have to be transparent, you

1517
01:24:28,320 --> 01:24:32,120
Speaker 2: have to be honest. How difficult has it been for

1518
01:24:32,240 --> 01:24:35,439
Speaker 2: you to navigate three decades of marriage being in the

1519
01:24:35,560 --> 01:24:36,479
Speaker 2: industry that you're in.

1520
01:24:40,360 --> 01:24:42,760
Speaker 3: It be a lot of temptation. You know. You just

1521
01:24:42,880 --> 01:24:47,360
Speaker 3: gotta say to yourself, do you want to risk losing

1522
01:24:47,520 --> 01:24:50,400
Speaker 3: all of this over here? Your beautiful wife and all

1523
01:24:51,040 --> 01:24:54,439
Speaker 3: and everything that you build, kids and everything that I

1524
01:24:54,520 --> 01:24:57,640
Speaker 3: built over here, just over this?

1525
01:24:58,040 --> 01:24:58,240
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1526
01:24:58,680 --> 01:25:03,080
Speaker 3: You know one night, you know of this, to lose

1527
01:25:03,160 --> 01:25:07,080
Speaker 3: all of that. Yeah, it's just it's you know what

1528
01:25:07,160 --> 01:25:12,360
Speaker 3: about Yeah, but uh, it's it's just like I just

1529
01:25:12,680 --> 01:25:15,439
Speaker 3: just I just you know, I just don't want to,

1530
01:25:16,439 --> 01:25:18,080
Speaker 3: you know, I don't want to. I don't want to.

1531
01:25:18,840 --> 01:25:20,920
Speaker 3: It's not worth it, boy, Yeah, it ain't. It ain't.

1532
01:25:21,000 --> 01:25:22,920
Speaker 3: It ain't worth it. You know when I when I

1533
01:25:23,080 --> 01:25:26,880
Speaker 3: was young, though, before our relationship, I was a monster

1534
01:25:28,479 --> 01:25:34,560
Speaker 3: every preywhere I was I was outside.

1535
01:25:35,360 --> 01:25:35,559
Speaker 4: Man.

1536
01:25:36,280 --> 01:25:41,360
Speaker 3: You know. But yeah, she she uh, she a good woman.

1537
01:25:41,439 --> 01:25:45,040
Speaker 3: And that's that's another reason why. Uh, you know, I'm

1538
01:25:45,160 --> 01:25:48,000
Speaker 3: I'm good to her as well, because she's she's a

1539
01:25:48,080 --> 01:25:53,040
Speaker 3: really good woman, and she she really like got my

1540
01:25:53,200 --> 01:25:56,120
Speaker 3: back one hundred and ten percent. And something I argue

1541
01:25:56,120 --> 01:25:59,680
Speaker 3: at her about some things and then I come back

1542
01:25:59,720 --> 01:26:02,760
Speaker 3: because I see what she just we were just arguing about.

1543
01:26:02,840 --> 01:26:06,360
Speaker 3: Then our see what she was saying. That makes sense

1544
01:26:06,439 --> 01:26:10,840
Speaker 3: now yeah, and I'll be like, damn, that's she is.

1545
01:26:10,920 --> 01:26:11,640
Speaker 3: She amazing.

1546
01:26:12,200 --> 01:26:14,880
Speaker 2: You know, would you have been would you have been

1547
01:26:14,960 --> 01:26:17,920
Speaker 2: as successful as you are had you not had the

1548
01:26:18,000 --> 01:26:20,320
Speaker 2: stability of having a wife for three decades?

1549
01:26:21,080 --> 01:26:28,920
Speaker 3: Uh mm I p I probably would have went uh

1550
01:26:29,160 --> 01:26:31,720
Speaker 3: in in a couple of different directions as far as

1551
01:26:31,840 --> 01:26:37,160
Speaker 3: like maybe getting in the more trouble y Yeah, you know, back,

1552
01:26:37,560 --> 01:26:43,160
Speaker 3: you know, but you know, sh she kept me sh

1553
01:26:43,280 --> 01:26:44,840
Speaker 3: she didnet kept me out of a lot of a

1554
01:26:44,920 --> 01:26:49,639
Speaker 3: lot of a lot of uh bs. Yeah, oh yeah.

1555
01:26:51,040 --> 01:26:52,680
Speaker 1: Oh children, how many kids you have?

1556
01:26:53,120 --> 01:26:53,360
Speaker 3: Six?

1557
01:26:54,160 --> 01:26:54,479
Speaker 1: Damn?

1558
01:26:54,920 --> 01:27:02,160
Speaker 3: H six That ain't a lot. Four boys and two

1559
01:27:02,240 --> 01:27:05,880
Speaker 3: girls the oldest. The oldest is twenty eight.

1560
01:27:06,640 --> 01:27:07,439
Speaker 1: Younger that's one.

1561
01:27:07,600 --> 01:27:11,280
Speaker 3: The youngest is Royal he's ten. And then my daughter,

1562
01:27:11,800 --> 01:27:17,960
Speaker 3: uh Lola is fifteen, my daughter Lauren, she's twenty. Uh

1563
01:27:18,720 --> 01:27:22,360
Speaker 3: my son Neil is twenty two, My son Elarga is

1564
01:27:22,439 --> 01:27:27,200
Speaker 3: twenty six. See a twenty six you done nothing that

1565
01:27:27,280 --> 01:27:31,599
Speaker 3: I get him all. I'll be forgetting sometime. You done, definitely,

1566
01:27:32,479 --> 01:27:35,720
Speaker 3: I know, but nowhere near I'm done.

1567
01:27:36,720 --> 01:27:38,960
Speaker 1: Over what t what type of what type of father?

1568
01:27:39,040 --> 01:27:39,240
Speaker 1: Are you?

1569
01:27:40,720 --> 01:27:44,519
Speaker 3: Cool? I'm cool, but I uh, you know, I I

1570
01:27:45,400 --> 01:27:50,040
Speaker 3: uh I still and still you know, like s like

1571
01:27:50,160 --> 01:27:54,439
Speaker 3: some of the moral I still instill morals like you know,

1572
01:27:54,960 --> 01:27:57,960
Speaker 3: like we used to have when I was coming up,

1573
01:27:58,080 --> 01:28:01,519
Speaker 3: like in there, cleaning up that room every day, doing this,

1574
01:28:01,800 --> 01:28:05,439
Speaker 3: washing the dishes, all of that. I still, even though

1575
01:28:05,479 --> 01:28:09,479
Speaker 3: I'm warring, ge, I be like, go washing dishes or

1576
01:28:09,560 --> 01:28:11,320
Speaker 3: go take out the trash, go do the you know

1577
01:28:11,439 --> 01:28:15,519
Speaker 3: I do. I be on 'em. And they they they

1578
01:28:15,680 --> 01:28:17,800
Speaker 3: they don't they they probably don't even look at me

1579
01:28:17,880 --> 01:28:21,280
Speaker 3: as Warren g like the the s, the artists or this,

1580
01:28:21,400 --> 01:28:25,160
Speaker 3: that and this, they like, you know that's damn oh daddy,

1581
01:28:25,400 --> 01:28:29,160
Speaker 3: you you know they cause they I ain't mean, but

1582
01:28:30,000 --> 01:28:33,800
Speaker 3: uh they they think that the s the stuff I

1583
01:28:33,920 --> 01:28:36,200
Speaker 3: tell them, like go take out the trash, that's being

1584
01:28:36,280 --> 01:28:38,280
Speaker 3: mean or that stuff. No, that's not being mean. That's

1585
01:28:38,320 --> 01:28:41,080
Speaker 3: the way it's supposed to go. Yes, you know, get up,

1586
01:28:41,120 --> 01:28:42,519
Speaker 3: you need to do this, you need to do that.

1587
01:28:42,760 --> 01:28:45,840
Speaker 3: I S be on they ass, you know, and and

1588
01:28:47,000 --> 01:28:49,080
Speaker 3: they all good kids. Ain't none of one of my

1589
01:28:49,200 --> 01:28:53,840
Speaker 3: boys been in no trouble like gang shit or any

1590
01:28:53,960 --> 01:28:56,080
Speaker 3: jail stuff that they ain't never been to jail. They

1591
01:28:56,080 --> 01:28:58,400
Speaker 3: ain't never been in no trouble like nothing. None of

1592
01:28:58,439 --> 01:29:01,880
Speaker 3: my girls, nobody have never been in trouble. And what

1593
01:29:02,040 --> 01:29:03,880
Speaker 3: tricked me out is they ain't. They ain't the type.

1594
01:29:03,920 --> 01:29:09,000
Speaker 3: They don't never aks me for like Jordan's or all

1595
01:29:09,080 --> 01:29:11,960
Speaker 3: the high text stuff actuated. I take that back. My

1596
01:29:12,120 --> 01:29:15,040
Speaker 3: daughters is is they they they ain't hit me here

1597
01:29:15,280 --> 01:29:18,799
Speaker 3: they hit me. Uh But other than that, my boys

1598
01:29:18,880 --> 01:29:21,280
Speaker 3: don't they they you know, they don't. You know, they

1599
01:29:21,439 --> 01:29:24,559
Speaker 3: was kids. They never aksed me for a bunch of stuff.

1600
01:29:24,600 --> 01:29:28,280
Speaker 3: And I've I've never been like, Okay, you can have this.

1601
01:29:28,439 --> 01:29:31,439
Speaker 3: I'm'a well getting them anything they wanted. I didn't do that.

1602
01:29:31,760 --> 01:29:33,920
Speaker 3: I I was have 'em. You gotta work for it,

1603
01:29:35,120 --> 01:29:37,680
Speaker 3: you know, you gotta work for it no matter what

1604
01:29:37,840 --> 01:29:41,000
Speaker 3: it is. If even when you in sports like my boys,

1605
01:29:41,040 --> 01:29:42,519
Speaker 3: I used to tell them, okay, if you do this

1606
01:29:42,720 --> 01:29:45,160
Speaker 3: or you do that, and in your football and this

1607
01:29:45,320 --> 01:29:47,320
Speaker 3: that and this, okay, I'll give you a hundred dollars.

1608
01:29:47,840 --> 01:29:50,519
Speaker 3: When they was kids like little bitty kids playing Pop

1609
01:29:50,600 --> 01:29:53,519
Speaker 3: Warner and stuff like that. You you score two or

1610
01:29:53,520 --> 01:29:57,120
Speaker 3: three touchdowns, I got you. I'm'a give you this, tearing

1611
01:29:57,200 --> 01:30:01,840
Speaker 3: it up and uh, I get this, you know. Or

1612
01:30:01,960 --> 01:30:04,719
Speaker 3: I would make him work for stuff. But they would

1613
01:30:04,800 --> 01:30:08,000
Speaker 3: never be the type like I want this, I want that,

1614
01:30:08,080 --> 01:30:11,519
Speaker 3: I want that, or never. And I was like, damn,

1615
01:30:11,560 --> 01:30:17,160
Speaker 3: I'm blessed for that, you know. And they they, you know,

1616
01:30:17,240 --> 01:30:22,439
Speaker 3: they think I'm uh, they think I'm cool. They know

1617
01:30:22,560 --> 01:30:25,599
Speaker 3: I'm cool because I laugh and joke and talk mess

1618
01:30:26,439 --> 01:30:28,799
Speaker 3: and uh, you know, I'll be messing with my daughters.

1619
01:30:28,800 --> 01:30:32,880
Speaker 3: I'll be calling them the baddies and uh, they don't

1620
01:30:33,000 --> 01:30:34,920
Speaker 3: like it, but they laugh at it a lot. And

1621
01:30:35,080 --> 01:30:39,720
Speaker 3: uh uh but they they they they they good. They

1622
01:30:39,840 --> 01:30:42,760
Speaker 3: good kids, and they they I just got to be

1623
01:30:42,840 --> 01:30:44,760
Speaker 3: a dad. And I tell them that I gotta be

1624
01:30:44,840 --> 01:30:48,200
Speaker 3: a dad. I can't be your friend and let you

1625
01:30:48,320 --> 01:30:50,719
Speaker 3: do anything, and you know, I gotta be a dad.

1626
01:30:51,000 --> 01:30:54,320
Speaker 2: So I told my kids, I said, the dynamic of

1627
01:30:54,360 --> 01:30:57,400
Speaker 2: our relationship willn'tver change. I'll always be dad, You'll always

1628
01:30:57,439 --> 01:30:57,920
Speaker 2: be the child.

1629
01:30:58,160 --> 01:31:00,000
Speaker 3: Yes indeed, yes indeed.

1630
01:31:01,040 --> 01:31:04,639
Speaker 2: And so let's stay in our appropriate places. Yes indeed,

1631
01:31:06,520 --> 01:31:08,800
Speaker 2: I said your friends. Hey, y'all hang out, y'all talk

1632
01:31:08,840 --> 01:31:11,240
Speaker 2: to each other in a certain way. That's fine. Yeah,

1633
01:31:11,560 --> 01:31:14,840
Speaker 2: but as a parent there needs to be always a

1634
01:31:15,000 --> 01:31:19,519
Speaker 2: healthy level of respect there. And you know, and as

1635
01:31:20,080 --> 01:31:23,080
Speaker 2: they got older, you know, hey, it was no more

1636
01:31:23,080 --> 01:31:25,680
Speaker 2: I did demand. I was like, look, you understand, you

1637
01:31:25,880 --> 01:31:28,200
Speaker 2: know right from wrong. I shouldn't have to yell and

1638
01:31:28,280 --> 01:31:30,680
Speaker 2: scream and do all the other stuff. It should be

1639
01:31:31,040 --> 01:31:32,840
Speaker 2: this is what I think you should do in the matter,

1640
01:31:32,960 --> 01:31:34,840
Speaker 2: which you should do indeed, But at the end of

1641
01:31:34,880 --> 01:31:38,000
Speaker 2: the day, you're grown. Now you make your own decisions. Yeah,

1642
01:31:38,439 --> 01:31:42,040
Speaker 2: but you hopefully you've done a good enough job from

1643
01:31:42,760 --> 01:31:46,559
Speaker 2: birth until eighteen nineteen that when they get twenty five,

1644
01:31:46,640 --> 01:31:49,400
Speaker 2: they get thirty, it's like, okay, yeah, this is what

1645
01:31:49,520 --> 01:31:51,559
Speaker 2: we should be doing. This is how we should do it. Yeah,

1646
01:31:51,960 --> 01:31:53,160
Speaker 2: let me get you out here on this one. When

1647
01:31:53,200 --> 01:31:56,360
Speaker 2: you see a situation like a Dame and even Hall

1648
01:31:56,400 --> 01:32:00,000
Speaker 2: of falling out with Rockefeller and a lot of the artist,

1649
01:32:00,439 --> 01:32:02,519
Speaker 2: how do we make sure we don't have another a

1650
01:32:02,640 --> 01:32:03,439
Speaker 2: situation like that?

1651
01:32:05,400 --> 01:32:06,280
Speaker 1: Uh could just.

1652
01:32:06,320 --> 01:32:15,160
Speaker 3: Say it is just gotta just gotta keep the business

1653
01:32:15,200 --> 01:32:22,160
Speaker 3: a little bit more tight. This the type of person

1654
01:32:22,320 --> 01:32:25,040
Speaker 3: I am, even though, like if I was if I

1655
01:32:25,200 --> 01:32:28,640
Speaker 3: was in jay Z position. Even though me and this

1656
01:32:28,840 --> 01:32:32,439
Speaker 3: guy ain't getting along or whatever, we we got history, like,

1657
01:32:32,520 --> 01:32:36,760
Speaker 3: we done a lot of big things together. And if

1658
01:32:36,800 --> 01:32:38,640
Speaker 3: I see him, just like, if I see him and

1659
01:32:38,680 --> 01:32:40,880
Speaker 3: I'm like, damn, he sh he's struggling or this, that

1660
01:32:40,920 --> 01:32:43,880
Speaker 3: and this, I'll try to like figure out some type

1661
01:32:43,920 --> 01:32:47,160
Speaker 3: of way we can mend. So I could say, look,

1662
01:32:47,640 --> 01:32:50,160
Speaker 3: let me get you involved in this so you can

1663
01:32:50,240 --> 01:32:53,360
Speaker 3: get this, you know what I mean, Or do this

1664
01:32:53,520 --> 01:32:56,519
Speaker 3: so you can get get that, or you know, cause

1665
01:32:56,560 --> 01:32:58,800
Speaker 3: I don't wanna We got too much history together for

1666
01:32:59,560 --> 01:33:03,600
Speaker 3: I don't want want to see you that way or struggling,

1667
01:33:03,640 --> 01:33:05,360
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. I don't wanna see that man,

1668
01:33:05,880 --> 01:33:10,759
Speaker 3: cause we started together. Okay, we had our little falling

1669
01:33:10,840 --> 01:33:12,960
Speaker 3: out to whatever, but at the end of the day, man,

1670
01:33:13,960 --> 01:33:14,960
Speaker 3: you know, I grew with you.

1671
01:33:15,400 --> 01:33:16,439
Speaker 2: We did build something too.

1672
01:33:16,479 --> 01:33:20,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, we built some some really special things together.

1673
01:33:20,600 --> 01:33:26,080
Speaker 3: So you know, here you go here, here, you go there,

1674
01:33:27,160 --> 01:33:29,519
Speaker 3: you know, just so you can be back on your feet,

1675
01:33:30,080 --> 01:33:33,639
Speaker 3: you know. And if I'm here big in there. Shit,

1676
01:33:33,720 --> 01:33:35,599
Speaker 3: if I was a beg there, I'd be like, look

1677
01:33:37,560 --> 01:33:42,519
Speaker 3: take this, you know. Now, If you lose that, then

1678
01:33:42,600 --> 01:33:46,920
Speaker 3: something main right, you on your own, Yeah, but take

1679
01:33:47,040 --> 01:33:50,559
Speaker 3: this you know you should be good off that period

1680
01:33:50,720 --> 01:33:51,080
Speaker 3: no more.

1681
01:33:51,920 --> 01:33:54,960
Speaker 1: What's uh? What's next with warrang g Uh.

1682
01:33:57,200 --> 01:34:00,320
Speaker 3: Just a lot of a lot of good being business,

1683
01:34:00,439 --> 01:34:05,640
Speaker 3: a lot of uh good music. I've just got I

1684
01:34:05,760 --> 01:34:12,360
Speaker 3: just got involved in in UH baseball. Just became a owner,

1685
01:34:12,439 --> 01:34:15,560
Speaker 3: part of the ownership group with the UH with the

1686
01:34:16,640 --> 01:34:19,240
Speaker 3: a Loan Beach. It's a minor league baseball team, but

1687
01:34:19,360 --> 01:34:21,880
Speaker 3: it's the first team that's about to be coming from

1688
01:34:22,000 --> 01:34:25,040
Speaker 3: out of Long Beach. And we I became a a

1689
01:34:25,200 --> 01:34:28,080
Speaker 3: owner part of the ownership group with that and UH

1690
01:34:28,520 --> 01:34:30,560
Speaker 3: we tryna make we making the name not trying, we

1691
01:34:30,640 --> 01:34:35,240
Speaker 3: gonna make the name the Long Beach Regulators. And I

1692
01:34:35,520 --> 01:34:39,639
Speaker 3: I'm really happy to be involved and cause it gives

1693
01:34:39,680 --> 01:34:42,960
Speaker 3: me a chance to give back to the community by

1694
01:34:43,040 --> 01:34:47,240
Speaker 3: doing different events and bringing like a snoop or bringing

1695
01:34:47,320 --> 01:34:50,160
Speaker 3: any artist to there, to the the s to the

1696
01:34:50,240 --> 01:34:53,040
Speaker 3: stadium to perform for the neighborhood or the kids wherever

1697
01:34:53,080 --> 01:34:56,080
Speaker 3: you from, whoever show up and it's a chance for

1698
01:34:56,200 --> 01:35:00,240
Speaker 3: the the team to go here or the king work

1699
01:35:00,360 --> 01:35:03,519
Speaker 3: to build this new court they got, or go to

1700
01:35:03,640 --> 01:35:05,479
Speaker 3: the wreck and build a new rec thing or go

1701
01:35:05,640 --> 01:35:09,360
Speaker 3: to the homeless thing and help them and the mayor,

1702
01:35:09,600 --> 01:35:11,400
Speaker 3: you know, help out with some of the things with

1703
01:35:11,560 --> 01:35:15,160
Speaker 3: the mayor around the city. And cause I was born

1704
01:35:15,200 --> 01:35:17,760
Speaker 3: and raised there, so it's like it's only right that

1705
01:35:17,880 --> 01:35:21,120
Speaker 3: I I give back to fit in that in that way.

1706
01:35:21,200 --> 01:35:23,479
Speaker 3: And then we got something to root for, you know,

1707
01:35:23,600 --> 01:35:25,280
Speaker 3: cause they don't have a lot to root for. We

1708
01:35:25,400 --> 01:35:28,880
Speaker 3: got the Dodgers and the Lakers, and you know the

1709
01:35:29,040 --> 01:35:32,840
Speaker 3: Raiders and and and you know them the Chargers and

1710
01:35:32,880 --> 01:35:33,479
Speaker 3: stuff like that.

1711
01:35:34,640 --> 01:35:38,160
Speaker 2: And Raiders below to Vegas now they do. Yeah, yeah,

1712
01:35:38,760 --> 01:35:41,080
Speaker 2: you gotta, you gotta. Uh when is the new music

1713
01:35:41,120 --> 01:35:42,880
Speaker 2: coming out? I'm you talking about you working on some

1714
01:35:42,920 --> 01:35:44,640
Speaker 2: new music right now?

1715
01:35:44,720 --> 01:35:48,920
Speaker 3: We looking well, I'm looking at UH dropping. I'm r

1716
01:35:49,160 --> 01:35:52,519
Speaker 3: dropping the single by November. Yeah, I'm working on that

1717
01:35:52,760 --> 01:35:57,120
Speaker 3: right now. I pretty I'm pretty much there. I just

1718
01:35:57,240 --> 01:36:00,280
Speaker 3: got a few touch ups I gotta do, uh mix,

1719
01:36:00,479 --> 01:36:02,920
Speaker 3: mixing and mastering. And it's a couple more artists that

1720
01:36:02,960 --> 01:36:06,560
Speaker 3: I wanna work with with uh before I shut it

1721
01:36:06,640 --> 01:36:10,560
Speaker 3: all the way out. A lot of good music, a

1722
01:36:10,680 --> 01:36:14,960
Speaker 3: lot of good businesses coming with with the the baseball sports.

1723
01:36:15,479 --> 01:36:19,920
Speaker 3: A lot of business outside of the baseball, like real estate,

1724
01:36:20,520 --> 01:36:25,759
Speaker 3: UH and then, as well as still helping newer artists

1725
01:36:26,520 --> 01:36:30,040
Speaker 3: at UH in the game and and getting them under

1726
01:36:30,120 --> 01:36:33,000
Speaker 3: a good distribution to get their records out there in

1727
01:36:33,040 --> 01:36:35,280
Speaker 3: a g in a good way. Alright, you know, still

1728
01:36:35,360 --> 01:36:38,519
Speaker 3: helping out artists, still doing everything and not. I ain't

1729
01:36:38,560 --> 01:36:41,840
Speaker 3: ain't nothing change. I'm still still at the add it,

1730
01:36:42,160 --> 01:36:44,720
Speaker 3: you know, like always being, but just a little bit

1731
01:36:44,840 --> 01:36:47,320
Speaker 3: more smarter, you know you.

1732
01:36:47,479 --> 01:36:51,440
Speaker 2: But they got his barbecue rub and sauces, sniffing griffins.

1733
01:36:51,840 --> 01:36:55,680
Speaker 2: Oh warrn J, production, WARRNJ, ladies, gentlemen, But.

1734
01:36:55,840 --> 01:36:58,200
Speaker 3: Food, you said, are here.

1735
01:37:00,040 --> 01:37:04,080
Speaker 4: All my life? Grinding all my life, sacrifice, hustle, play

1736
01:37:04,160 --> 01:37:05,920
Speaker 4: the price, wanta slice?

1737
01:37:06,240 --> 01:37:08,519
Speaker 2: Got to brow the dice that wad all my life.

1738
01:37:08,600 --> 01:37:10,880
Speaker 2: I've been grinding all my life, all my.

1739
01:37:10,960 --> 01:37:15,240
Speaker 4: Life, and grinding all my life, sacrifice, hustle, play the price,

1740
01:37:15,320 --> 01:37:16,559
Speaker 4: and want to slice.

1741
01:37:16,920 --> 01:37:19,160
Speaker 2: Got to brow the dice that wad all my life.

1742
01:37:19,280 --> 01:37:24,479
Speaker 2: I've been grinding all my life. Mm hmm