Speaker 1: Oh hey, there, it's me Jack. You've caught me unwinding,
Speaker 1: enjoying a large goblet of delicious eggnog, untangling my brain,
Speaker 1: gaining five to fifteen pounds of eggnog while we unwind.
Speaker 1: Here at Daily Zeitgeist, in addition to publishing our normal
Speaker 1: year end episodes and Santo's University, etc. We've decided to
Speaker 1: take the opportunity to count down the top ten episodes
Speaker 1: of the year published over the next ten days. The
Speaker 1: ten days that will be off Monday through Friday, two
Speaker 1: weeks in a row. How Jack, how did you guys
Speaker 1: determine the top ten episodes? They were all equally incredible. Well,
Speaker 1: we used a little something called democracy. Ever heard of it?
Speaker 1: Depending on when you listen to this episode, that might
Speaker 1: not be such a rhetorical question. But anyways, we let
Speaker 1: you vote on the most listened to episodes of the
Speaker 1: year to see what you liked best. And you're about
Speaker 1: to hear your answers. Just ten bangers right in a row.
Speaker 1: We've got a trending episode in the mix. We got
Speaker 1: a lot of good ones and at number one, well,
Speaker 1: let's just say you'll find out, especially if this is
Speaker 1: the number one episode we're putting this same bumper at
Speaker 1: the start of all ten, so we hope you enjoy it.
Speaker 1: We hope you enjoyed listening to this year of TDZ
Speaker 1: as much as we enjoyed making it. And we will
Speaker 1: see you all in twenty twenty five. We hope you
Speaker 1: have a RESTful holiday. How you doing. Man, congratulations, thank oh,
Speaker 1: thank you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you said it would never happen for me. I
Speaker 2: said you said never.
Speaker 1: And I still don't really believe it, you know, I'm
Speaker 1: still I sent Miles to make sure it wasn't bullshit, man,
Speaker 1: because I honestly I was.
Speaker 2: Mom. I was like, I don't know, I don't know what.
Speaker 2: I don't know if it happened.
Speaker 1: That's awesome though, Man, congrats, thank you.
Speaker 2: It's it's lots of fun.
Speaker 1: Yeah, marriage, marriage stuff, eh.
Speaker 2: I know this stuff. That's great.
Speaker 3: I like genuinely have been bonking my ring on everything
Speaker 3: I could balk it on and it's such a.
Speaker 2: Blasting like intentionally, like you're just coming up to like
Speaker 2: what about this? Just like running in the walls, I
Speaker 2: want to what everything sounds? That's solid?
Speaker 4: Yeah, Hello the Internet, and welcome to season three, sixty two, Episode.
Speaker 2: Five of Derndy's Guys.
Speaker 1: Production of iHeart Radio. We are America's only undecided podcast,
Speaker 1: still trying to figure it out. Uh, this election is tricky.
Speaker 1: It's tricky, man says garbage Man. You did garbage man,
Speaker 1: And that's I find that in Dear. This is a
Speaker 1: podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness.
Speaker 1: And it is Friday, November first four. Yeah, today, we've
Speaker 1: all been waiting for waiting, all Saints, the all Hallows
Speaker 1: eve behind us. It's all Hallows.
Speaker 2: It's Hallow's Day. And it also is maybe National Fountain
Speaker 2: Pen Day, Autistic Speaking Day, National Biologic Coordinator's Day, National
Speaker 2: Cinnamon Day, National Toothbrush Day, National Jersey Friday as in
Speaker 2: Sporting Jersey, but also shout out the garden State of
Speaker 2: New Jersey, National Al Zone Day, National Deep Fried Clams Day,
Speaker 2: National Cook for Your Pets Day, National Family Literacy Day,
Speaker 2: National Thursday, and National Vinegar Day.
Speaker 1: Shout out oil also, but hey, do our guest today
Speaker 1: author Jersey. Yep, he's always wearing a basketball jersey shirt
Speaker 1: under New Jersey.
Speaker 2: That's Jersey.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Anyways, my name's Jack O'Brien aka watching Old Bruce with
Speaker 1: list Sam and Jack by his side. Ah, they both
Speaker 1: die Hard with Eve Unce Jeremy Irons. That is courtesy
Speaker 1: of Halcion Salad on the Discord in reference to one
Speaker 1: of the two movies that we talked about in this podcast.
Speaker 1: For some reason, Yeah, I guess the reason is those
Speaker 1: are the only two movies we've seen Rocky four, Diehard
Speaker 1: three classics.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 1: Anyway, shout out Halcion Salad. I'm thrilled to be joined
Speaker 1: as always by my co hosts.
Speaker 2: It's mister Miles Grass, Miles Greg. I love Miles Gray,
Speaker 2: do do do?
Speaker 1: We love them? All right?
Speaker 2: Shout out to the Los Angeles Dodgers who were victorious
Speaker 2: over the New York Yankees. And I must say, as
Speaker 2: a Native Angelico, I love being just This is the
Speaker 2: best time that we've anytime La wins something, it's fantastic. Now. Obviously,
Speaker 2: the police came out in full force pretty much immediately
Speaker 2: in anticipation of the revelry and things went well.
Speaker 1: They have to celebrate too by beating people up and
Speaker 1: arresting people that It's like.
Speaker 2: Hey, you like to shoot boom booms, we do too,
Speaker 2: and they're not lethal ish. But anyway, what a game,
Speaker 2: coming back from five zero down that fifth that was
Speaker 2: at the fifth inning, that was just absolutely just turned
Speaker 2: the game upside down. Was fantastic to watch. I'm so
Speaker 2: happy he.
Speaker 1: Brought it alound for a landing. At first, you sounded
Speaker 1: like somebody who was like, when La wins the game,
Speaker 1: it is the most fantastic. Yes, it is. It is fantastic.
Speaker 2: When winning baseball game much celebrates.
Speaker 1: A culinary hand kiss. Anyways, Miles, we are thrilled to
Speaker 1: be joined in our third seat one of the funniest
Speaker 1: and smartest writers and people I've had the pleasure of
Speaker 1: working with. He's a best selling author and Emmy winning writer.
Speaker 1: The last week Tonight with Six, he co hosts the
Speaker 1: podcast Quick Question was sworn in Daniel, please welcome. It's
Speaker 1: Daniel O'Brien.
Speaker 2: Hello. What an introduction I was was.
Speaker 3: I was really prepared to come in here with with
Speaker 3: a planned bit of of being consistently over the length
Speaker 3: of your akas a problem I've had with this podcast
Speaker 3: since the beginning. But then you said so many sweet
Speaker 3: things about me that I've I've completely abandoned that planned bit.
Speaker 1: Oh now I'm.
Speaker 2: I'm I'm armed with no bits.
Speaker 1: Oh hey, well, welcome, great to have you bitless and
Speaker 1: that's just we we can get in there. This is
Speaker 1: gonna be like the Mark Maren podcast where you know,
Speaker 1: drop that that stance, Dan, the comedic. You know, let's
Speaker 1: get in there. Let's get into the the juicy insides
Speaker 1: what makes you tick man. And also my aka was
Speaker 1: like really quick today and perfectly concise, So.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you could have done first banger, but.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I cut so much. It was actually supposed to
Speaker 1: be an Oasis medley about all the die Hard films.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh boy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well we hadn't had a wonder wall about die
Speaker 1: Hard four die Hard, Yeah, lift free Diehard of course.
Speaker 1: How are you doing? What's new with you? Daniel?
Speaker 3: I'm doing very well. I mean, I don't know why
Speaker 3: I'm saying I'm doing very well. It's I work at
Speaker 3: a political comedy show, as you mentioned, and we're just
Speaker 3: a few days away from an election. So fun, even
Speaker 3: though that's not a surprise like we had we had
Speaker 3: this whole year. I mean, an argument could be made
Speaker 3: that we've had several years to plan for this election.
Speaker 3: We are still running around headless chickens over here. We're
Speaker 3: still trying to not that there's anything we can do
Speaker 3: to impact how anyone's going to vote or how this
Speaker 3: election is going to go, or not that there's any
Speaker 3: way we can like add further context to it. We
Speaker 3: just all share the same level of anxiety that everyone
Speaker 3: else has. Where we record on Saturday for an episode
Speaker 3: that's going to air on Sunday, and then we are
Speaker 3: prepping a show that is going to record the week
Speaker 3: of the election, so a few days after it, and
Speaker 3: trying to prepare for what we can talk about when
Speaker 3: we truly have no information right now.
Speaker 1: Real sliding Doors moment. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's a historical text,
Speaker 1: the one of the Paltrow film Sliding Doors. But Daniel,
Speaker 1: we are going to be recording an episode on election day.
Speaker 1: We'll come out the day after. We had an hour
Speaker 1: long meeting yesterday being like what the fuck, Like, how
Speaker 1: do you do that?
Speaker 2: I think we just record two kinds of episodes and
Speaker 2: was just you know, choose your own adventure when it
Speaker 2: times when it's time to publish.
Speaker 1: No, we're just going to do some bullshit. I think
Speaker 1: just an election. You guys should try that, just like,
Speaker 1: do do something about funny video clips? Can you bring
Speaker 1: cheap time back.
Speaker 2: I would maybe I would love that so much, just
Speaker 2: like something, Look, we don't know what's going on. Well,
Speaker 2: let's enjoy this time where we don't know.
Speaker 3: We have one TV in the office that we all
Speaker 3: huddle around. That TV broke, so we don't know what
Speaker 3: happened in the news this week.
Speaker 2: So I'm just gonna sort of.
Speaker 3: Has anyone seen Saturday Night? We want to talk about that.
Speaker 3: That's the thing we're going to talk about.
Speaker 1: There you go, all right, Well we are going to
Speaker 1: get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First,
Speaker 1: we're going to tell the listeners a couple of the
Speaker 1: things we're talking about. We are going to talk about
Speaker 1: the election. And this has just been sprung on me,
Speaker 1: but yeah, apparently there's election news. There's some questions around turnout,
Speaker 1: whether whether the boy is gonna turn out for Donald Trump.
Speaker 1: The boys not turning out so far in the early vote,
Speaker 1: and people are scared. Some people are asking whether it
Speaker 1: has anything to do with Trump's ground game, which is bad.
Speaker 1: Like I'm hoping it's as bad as it seems like
Speaker 1: it would be. So we're going to talk about that.
Speaker 1: We're going to talk about again, We'll do a little
Speaker 1: look at the stakes because Trump has claimed that he
Speaker 1: wants to let RFK Junior go wild on medicines, which
Speaker 1: he's elected. That's a direct literal Okay, we'll talk about that.
Speaker 1: We might talk about what Trump will do if he loses.
Speaker 1: We will definitely talk about It's November first, it's the
Speaker 1: day after Halloween. This is the season of the dentist
Speaker 1: Halloween candy buyback program, and that surprisingly is going to
Speaker 1: be the darkest story of the day because holy shit,
Speaker 1: our writer j M McNab dug into this and it's
Speaker 1: fucked It's like, so we shouldn't be surprised at this
Speaker 1: point that, like you dig it, dig into any American
Speaker 1: institute and there's a coin flip of a chance that
Speaker 1: it's going to be super fucked up. This one is.
Speaker 1: So we'll talk about that plenty more. But first, Daniel O'Brien,
Speaker 1: we do like to ask our guests, what is something
Speaker 1: from your search history.
Speaker 3: Jack O'Brien Networth, and what do we what are we
Speaker 3: coming back with? See here's here's what's an unfortunate bummer
Speaker 3: about this is that I thought it would be lots
Speaker 3: of fun to be to have that be my recent
Speaker 3: Google search because that used to be a really fun
Speaker 3: thing to do. Like celebrity networth is exactly what it
Speaker 3: sounds like. It collects net worth of celebrities using who
Speaker 3: knows what methods. In the past, they no one's been
Speaker 3: able to really divine exactly how they come across their numbers.
Speaker 3: But it was like I as a public personality from
Speaker 3: Cracked and writing books, and now last week tonight I
Speaker 3: was searchable on that site and there was some either
Speaker 3: AI or freelance writer who had just sort of decided
Speaker 3: what my net worth was. And it was a fun
Speaker 3: game to play to see what some random writer somewhere
Speaker 3: comes up with, because it was always like Daniel ob
Speaker 3: Brian has been writing comedy.
Speaker 2: Since two thousand and seven.
Speaker 3: It is estimated that his net worth is ninety three
Speaker 3: million dollars, and it was always way off based on nothing,
Speaker 3: and I thought this would be a fun way to
Speaker 3: kick off the episode to see what AI or some
Speaker 3: child writer thinks Jack O'Brien's net worth is. But celebrity
Speaker 3: net worth has changed drastically over the years. It's not
Speaker 3: the free for all that it used to be. He
Speaker 3: used to be able to find almost anyone of dubious
Speaker 3: notoriety there and now they've really cleaned it up. And
Speaker 3: I did some digging and it is this is like
Speaker 3: you're seeing an episode of Last Week Tonight, get workshopped
Speaker 3: in real time in a nutshell, start with a fun
Speaker 3: thing and then uncover a sad dark thing. And the
Speaker 3: sad dark thing is that like Google as Google has
Speaker 3: decided to crush every website on the Internet that is
Speaker 3: not Google. This is like a big tech anti trust thing.
Speaker 3: People used to search Celary networths and get directed to
Speaker 3: CelebrityNetWorth dot com and spend time on that site. Google
Speaker 3: had started taking the information from that website and putting
Speaker 3: it right on the Google search results. Yeah, got to
Speaker 3: wouldn't go to Celebrity net Worth anymore. At one point
Speaker 3: in twenty fourteen, Google asked the founder of Celebrity net Worth, Hey,
Speaker 3: can I do this? Can we start like scrubbing your
Speaker 3: website and putting it in search results so people get
Speaker 3: the information they want and never have to leave Google.
Speaker 3: Isn't that great news for the user? And the owner
Speaker 3: of Celebrity net Worth was like, yeah, that's great news
Speaker 3: for the user, but it's like fuck news for me.
Speaker 3: I need people so bad to go to my website
Speaker 3: so I can get money from ads from you, Google,
Speaker 3: I need to sell my ads already you're already taking
Speaker 3: such a massive cut.
Speaker 1: They're like, yeah, right, if it was all our money,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 2: What if I yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: We're having this meeting here in Google and we're like,
Speaker 1: what if what if it was a.
Speaker 2: Who can we get rid of?
Speaker 1: And wait?
Speaker 3: So the guy said no, you can't scrub my website
Speaker 3: and then Google did it anyway, and between like twenty
Speaker 3: fourteen and now it looks like traffic to celebrity or
Speaker 3: networth has gone down eighty percent, and I think, as
Speaker 3: a longtime fan of CelebrityNetWorth dot com, you can really
Speaker 3: see that the quality has has suffered because of this
Speaker 3: huge loss thanks to God.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, just so, did you get any kind
Speaker 2: of answer for the number question?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 2: I did ask Chad GPT just now, Oh, well to
Speaker 2: see how what a I did? Jack o'brancost of the
Speaker 2: Daily Use and form of creative director at Houst of
Speaker 2: Force has an estimated networth of approximately two million dollars.
Speaker 2: Extensive work in digital media. Daniel O'Brien, known for his
Speaker 2: work as a writer and comedian with Cracked and as
Speaker 2: a writer for Last Week Tonight with John Oliver, has
Speaker 2: an estimated net worth of around three hundred and fifteen
Speaker 2: thousand dollars.
Speaker 1: Wow, it's so siss on, Daniel, and I got seventy
Speaker 1: five million for myself. Severn that I'm a famous Okay,
Speaker 1: it's it's the theater director. There's the other one. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: the other one. But I don't know. I like hopefully
Speaker 1: people don't do research too good or it confuses the
Speaker 1: AI and they think all more seventy five million dollars
Speaker 1: that would be pretty cool.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Wow, three hundred and fifteen k's is so oddly specific. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, so I got from walmine, I've got that'stimated
Speaker 2: a net worth of Oh that's Daniel F O'Brien. And
Speaker 2: then it says mister Brian owns. Yeah, this is the
Speaker 2: it says on the Jack O'Brien net worth page. It
Speaker 2: says Jack O'Brien is a member of director.
Speaker 1: So I don't know how good it feels like maybe
Speaker 1: the internet is broken.
Speaker 2: No no, no, no, no no, no no accurate anyway, is it? Yeah?
Speaker 2: I had searched mine. It said who that's actually what
Speaker 2: Chad G said, and I'm kind.
Speaker 1: Of fucking I think it's bullshit, Like, what is it
Speaker 1: Jack O'Brien is not doing too well? You should reach
Speaker 1: out to him and see how he's doing, or what
Speaker 1: is something you think is underrated? Dang, this is gonna
Speaker 1: sound very basic, but seasons, And I'm sure let's come
Speaker 1: up on the podcast before it's coming up.
Speaker 6: For me.
Speaker 3: I live in New Jersey on the Jersey Shore. It
Speaker 3: is as we record Halloween, it's very spooky. October thirty first,
Speaker 3: it is eighty fucking degrees outside right now.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 3: And there's a lot of like global warming hand ringing
Speaker 3: to be done about that because this is just like
Speaker 3: like fundamentally not the way that temperatures are supposed to
Speaker 3: go this time of year. And sure, I agree with
Speaker 3: all those reasons it's bad that we're killing the world,
Speaker 3: but also, very specifically.
Speaker 2: To me, seasons are important.
Speaker 3: We have already taken the fall decorations and clothing out
Speaker 3: of storage and are ready to move the summer decorations
Speaker 3: into storage, but we can't right now because the weather
Speaker 3: is being so ridiculous and it's just turned my entire
Speaker 3: closet topsy turvy, and I don't know what to do
Speaker 3: with myself.
Speaker 1: I think of the closets, Yeah, of the closets, the
Speaker 1: fossil fuel industry.
Speaker 2: Yeah, please please. I love Yeah, I love seasons, just
Speaker 2: because growing up in LA we only have like two seasons,
Speaker 2: like hot and not as hot. Right, So I like
Speaker 2: I like wearing sleeves, I like hoods, jackets, pants and
Speaker 2: the like. But yeah, yeah, seasons, I do too.
Speaker 3: And on a day like today, it's hard not to
Speaker 3: think back to my childhood trick or treating in New
Speaker 3: Jersey and how grateful you were for the temperature to
Speaker 3: drop a bit. So you're not walking around in like
Speaker 3: full WCW sting makeup in eighty degrees of a pillowcase
Speaker 3: of melting chocolate on your shoulder.
Speaker 1: It would just be a nightmare. I will say, it's
Speaker 1: a little chilly. It was little chilly here this morning,
Speaker 1: so it's not global warming. I don't know what you're
Speaker 1: talking about. Okay, yeah, so we're good there. What's something
Speaker 1: you think is overrated?
Speaker 3: Something that I think is overrated is the I'm so
Speaker 3: sorry for being so Halloween focused. The sophistication and growth
Speaker 3: of the consumer grade Halloween decoration market.
Speaker 2: I'm over.
Speaker 3: I think there there was a time when the the
Speaker 3: house in the neighborhood that went all out for Halloween
Speaker 3: decorations was special. There was something meaningful to that. You
Speaker 3: could tell it was someone who spent a lot of time.
Speaker 3: This is this isn't like I'm not saying that only
Speaker 3: wealthy people should be allowed to decorate for Halloween. But
Speaker 3: it was, like you, we would we would do like
Speaker 3: handmade homemade decorations. It was a big, like Halloween tradition
Speaker 3: for us to make tombstones out of like styrofoam and
Speaker 3: pay them and then come up with funny things to
Speaker 3: write on the tombstones. And that would be like a
Speaker 3: family activity and a point of pride, this decorations that
Speaker 3: we did. And now I feel like the market for
Speaker 3: Halloween decorations has exploded. It's so much cheaper and so
Speaker 3: much easier to get really terrifying and cool looking decorations
Speaker 3: that everyone has them everywhere, And I don't care for it.
Speaker 2: Oh like as it like nothing special anymore because nothing
Speaker 2: special so widely available.
Speaker 1: I get, yes, just twelve foot skeletons as far as
Speaker 1: the eyes can I can see.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, there's there's a spot in my neighborhood someone
Speaker 2: had three twelve foot like different figures just cramped in
Speaker 2: their yard and it felt like, oh.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've been noticing a lot of Halloween decoration cramping
Speaker 1: as well, like especially with the inflatables, like the slatable
Speaker 1: just inflatables everywhere. Yeah, yeah, I don't know. I guess
Speaker 1: those things are a little bigger once you get them
Speaker 1: out of the box, the inflatables, because they are ye
Speaker 1: shoulder to shoulder and some of these front yards. My
Speaker 1: twelve foot witch is in my front yard right now.
Speaker 1: We are recording those on Halloween. Uh, in my front yard,
Speaker 1: just reading people for filth. I turned the turn the
Speaker 1: volume back up on her because I had turned her
Speaker 1: down because one of my friends like three year old children,
Speaker 1: got really scared of her, Like he sent me a
Speaker 1: video of his son crying from So I turned the
Speaker 1: volume down on her, turned it back up for Halloween.
Speaker 1: And the writing is just so fucking bad on the
Speaker 1: things she says, like she has a little sensor when
Speaker 1: she walked. When you walk by, she'll like say something,
Speaker 1: but it's like this long meandering It's like how am
Speaker 1: I flying? You ask, Well, that's a good question, and
Speaker 1: that you're like wanting to walk away from her party.
Speaker 1: You're like, put up a chair.
Speaker 2: I used to date orson wells.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, Uh should we take a break and come
Speaker 1: back and talk about the election, because I mean, it's
Speaker 1: coming up and it's a fun one. It's a real
Speaker 1: coin flip, what drama, what excitement? Will be right back
Speaker 1: and we're back, yes, And I apologize if it sounded
Speaker 1: like I was inside your ear. I have trouble with
Speaker 1: mike discipline. But to be fair, we've only been doing
Speaker 1: the show for seven years. Let's talk about the news. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah. There's a few stats from the early vote that
Speaker 2: has clearly caught the attention of the MAGA crowd. A
Speaker 2: political analysis of early vote data and battleground states said
Speaker 2: there's a two point or ten point gender gap in
Speaker 2: early voting, with women comprising fifty five percent of those
Speaker 2: who had cast ballots nationwide. Early voting data showed that
Speaker 2: on Thursday, but just today, as we record of roughly
Speaker 2: fifty eight million male in and early in person votes
Speaker 2: cast across the country, fifty four percent came from women.
Speaker 2: So this is for the MAGA crowd.
Speaker 1: They're like, oh no.
Speaker 2: Like, have they been hearing what Donald Trump says? Could
Speaker 2: this be a bad thing?
Speaker 1: Now?
Speaker 2: This is probably good news for the Harris campaign, although
Speaker 2: it's entirely possible that a significant portion of that early
Speaker 2: vote is also for Trump, considering the campaign's recent emphasis
Speaker 2: on early voting. So like the last presidential election, less
Speaker 2: than a quarter of male in ballots came from Republicans,
Speaker 2: in this cycle, it's up to a third. But again,
Speaker 2: it's all about turnout. It's all about whatever you have
Speaker 2: to say to get people out. But the way they're
Speaker 2: communicating it is sort of like the Mike Cernovich's and
Speaker 2: Charlie Kirk's of the world are like, where my bros
Speaker 2: at man, We need you guys if we're gonna get
Speaker 2: Trump over the line. If these ladies get out, were crushed.
Speaker 2: Cernavit said, quote, male turnout in Pennsylvania for Trump has
Speaker 2: been a disaster. Unless this changes, Kamala Harris takes Pennsylvania
Speaker 2: and it's over. Charlie Kirk early vote has been disproportionately female. Well,
Speaker 2: if men stay at home, Kamal is president. It's that
Speaker 2: simple poo poo pool. So I think the other thing
Speaker 2: that they're really reacting to I don't know, have you
Speaker 2: guys seen that Kamala Harris ad that's like narrated by
Speaker 2: Julia Roberts, where like a woman goes to the polls
Speaker 2: with like the clearly like a maga coated couple. And
Speaker 2: when the woman goes to the voting booth, she's like,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna actually vote for Kamalo and Tim Walls. And
Speaker 2: then when she goes back to her husband, he's like,
Speaker 2: did you vote, honey for the make the Right choice?
Speaker 2: And she's like, yes, I did, and she like winks
Speaker 2: at another woman at the polling place and then.
Speaker 1: Turns back to the camera and she has thriller eyes.
Speaker 2: So yeah, this has been like this is this has caused.
Speaker 2: I'll just play a clip of Charlie Kirk just he
Speaker 2: was on Magan Kelly's show just talking about how this
Speaker 2: ad is like undermining the modern mayor. I don't know,
Speaker 2: look just this listens to this.
Speaker 6: It is the embodiment of the downfall the American face.
Speaker 6: I think it's so gross. I think it's so just nauseating.
Speaker 6: Where this wife is wearing the show it wear in
Speaker 6: the American hat. She's coming in with her sweet husband
Speaker 6: who probably works his tail off, make sure that she
Speaker 6: can go, you know, and have a nice life and
Speaker 6: provide to the family. And then she lies to him saying, oh, yea,
Speaker 6: I'm gonna vote for Trump, and then she votes for
Speaker 6: Kamala Harris as her little secret in the voting booth.
Speaker 6: Kamala Harris and her team believe that there will be
Speaker 6: millions of women that undermine their husbands and do so
Speaker 6: in a way that it's not detectable in the polling,
Speaker 6: and she needs people to basically.
Speaker 2: Okay, that was ut of the clip.
Speaker 5: Yeah, undermine their husbands again, I am voting for who
Speaker 5: you want to vote for, and yeah, not sharing that
Speaker 5: information if your husband is really awful and like demands
Speaker 5: that you vote for the same person as.
Speaker 2: Him, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, a healthy marriage.
Speaker 3: I was trying to find the exact link for this,
Speaker 3: but did you guys see Jesse Waters talking about this also.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you want to hear that. Oh I'd love
Speaker 2: to be great.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: Hey, maybe if there's one thing I'm good for, it's
Speaker 2: how the outrage links loaded up. This is Jesse Waters
Speaker 2: being like, this is an executable offense.
Speaker 1: And if I found out Emma was going into the
Speaker 1: voting booth and pulling the lever.
Speaker 2: For Harris, that's the same thing as having an affair.
Speaker 2: That to me, he's.
Speaker 3: Like laughing, he's doing that, Judge the sanctity of our marriage.
Speaker 2: Yes, what else is she keeping from me?
Speaker 3: Exactly what she lying about threatened her? Why would she
Speaker 3: lie to you?
Speaker 2: I like how Janine Piro somehow kind of like on
Speaker 2: the side of reasons, She's like, well, why would why
Speaker 2: would this happen? What's happening in your relationship? Are you
Speaker 2: a monster?
Speaker 3: Even attempting to engage with the bit in good faith?
Speaker 3: Just trying to yes and it leading to a complete
Speaker 3: dead end.
Speaker 2: Yeah, completely completely, So I mean, yeah, I think this
Speaker 2: is sort of all part of everyone's maybe motivational the
Speaker 2: toolkit that they're using for turnout.
Speaker 1: Like that's kind of how I'm reading it. Is just
Speaker 1: the two always decisions that people make when voting. The
Speaker 1: first is weather to vote at all, and that's like
Speaker 1: a huge factor as to who's going to win. So
Speaker 1: this feels like a good story for them to be
Speaker 1: publicizing as it's now possible for everybody to vote. Basically,
Speaker 1: I voted yesterday and I will you know, Andrew t
Speaker 1: Friend of the show. Andrew t was on the show
Speaker 1: and talking about how one reason to vote early is
Speaker 1: once you vote, they stop texting you. I've received a
Speaker 1: text since I voted and it was like, hey, did
Speaker 1: you just vote? And that's it. So I highly recommend.
Speaker 2: I voted every single day this week. I'm gonna do
Speaker 2: it again tomorrow.
Speaker 1: It's fun. We're returning the favor to them to give
Speaker 1: them something they can exert and put on their show.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's always like I mean cause it's the same
Speaker 2: thing if you have texts from the Democratic Party, like
Speaker 2: about the it's always like we're getting fucked over in Pennsylvania.
Speaker 2: I need seven hundred thousand dollars or Trump is gonna
Speaker 2: rip our heads off. So everyone has their version of,
Speaker 2: you know, shitting the bed rhetorically to get people, you know,
Speaker 2: out to vote. But I think that brings us to
Speaker 2: the other part of a campaign, which is getting out
Speaker 2: the vote. It's we are on the precipice of GTV Weekend,
Speaker 2: where you know, there's a lot of effort to get
Speaker 2: everybody to the polls. And a couple of weeks ago,
Speaker 2: we talked about a story where these people that were
Speaker 2: hired by Elon's America Pack to do door to door
Speaker 2: canvassing for Trump were basically like faking all of their work.
Speaker 2: They just found a way to like spoof the results
Speaker 2: and make it look like they were actually going door
Speaker 2: to door and just be like yeah, and then I
Speaker 2: got my check. Now was it because they were all
Speaker 2: secret libs. I mean I see secret libs all around
Speaker 2: me exactly. You know, I was at a secret lib
Speaker 2: coffee shop and I overheard this. You won't believe it.
Speaker 1: My wife dozes off. I'm just looking at her with
Speaker 1: narrowed eyes, being like, is she a secretly sum for Harris?
Speaker 2: So it turns out that they these people who are
Speaker 2: you know, phoning it in. I might just be reacting
Speaker 2: to the fucked up working conditions because there's a new
Speaker 2: article in Wired magazine. No, yes, yes, Jack, I'm sorry
Speaker 2: to say. I know I know whose subcontract. Now they
Speaker 2: find other people to bring in. This is just from
Speaker 2: like the second paragraph in this article quote in Michigan
Speaker 2: canvassers and paid door knockers for the former president, contracted
Speaker 2: by a firm associated with America Pac have been subjected
Speaker 2: to poor working conditions. A number of them have been
Speaker 2: driven around in the back of a seatless U haul van,
Speaker 2: according to video obtained by Wired, and threatened that they're
Speaker 2: lodging at a local motel would it be paid for
Speaker 2: if they didn't meet canvassing quote. One door knocker alleges
Speaker 2: that they didn't even know they were signing up for
Speaker 2: anything having to do with Musk or Trump, and that
Speaker 2: was until they signed an NDA. So yeah, it's the
Speaker 2: picture of these people. It looks it looks like these
Speaker 2: people are being kidnapped, Like when you see a bunch
Speaker 2: of people in the back of a seatless van, like
Speaker 2: heatless man, that's like.
Speaker 1: An illegal thing that the police do to people as
Speaker 1: like abuse.
Speaker 2: Yes, sure, sure absolutely, but this is also this is
Speaker 2: how you know the America Pack is doing their canvassing. Again,
Speaker 2: any normal campaign with like a functioning field operation, you
Speaker 2: have like a network of field offices, staff and you know,
Speaker 2: battleground states to make sure you get your proper voter turnout.
Speaker 2: But I think a lot of this can be traced
Speaker 2: directly back to Trump installing his daughter in law as
Speaker 2: like a vassal dictator at the RNC, where she basically
Speaker 2: got rid of anyone who may have had any experience
Speaker 2: here in the name of saving money, and because the
Speaker 2: whole thing was Yeah, they had to use all the
Speaker 2: funds of the RNC to be like a Trump Eagle
Speaker 2: slush fund, so you know who knows. So that means
Speaker 2: now all the work of the field, the field work
Speaker 2: and ground game stuff is being done by inexperienced Trump
Speaker 2: allies like Musk.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I wasn't like too excited about the early voting
Speaker 1: numbers because it's just like we've just seen like early
Speaker 1: trends or like you know, straw poles or you know,
Speaker 1: exit polls tell us very misleading things and elections. But
Speaker 1: the idea that there could be a world where all
Speaker 1: of the stuff that he's been doing that plainly looks
Speaker 1: like just corrupt bad practices could like actually come back
Speaker 1: and have consequences on him does warm my heart. Oh
Speaker 1: does saw my frozen heart a tiny bit. Sure, sure
Speaker 1: would love to see it, even though I'm still undecided.
Speaker 3: I would love to see see consequences for his campaigns specifically,
Speaker 3: or because I as much like secondhand joy as I
Speaker 3: experience from from seeing ever report that is like this,
Speaker 3: Elon Musk is running like historically the worst ground game
Speaker 3: in the history of politics. As much as I enjoy that,
Speaker 3: I don't know election wise if that's going to swing anything,
Speaker 3: Like even him doing a bad job is not the
Speaker 3: kind of thing that I think is going to like
Speaker 3: sway undecided voters. Should they still be out there, like
Speaker 3: no one is waiting to see, Like, what's that he
Speaker 3: drove him around in a U haul. Well, if that's
Speaker 3: the kind of man Trump hires for his ground game,
Speaker 3: then I can't trust him with that.
Speaker 1: I don't think the story is going to have impact
Speaker 1: on who people vote for. I guess I'm trusting in
Speaker 1: some like magical boots on the ground electioneering thing that
Speaker 1: I've always heard actually matters in politics, and I have
Speaker 1: to assume it does because they put so much fucking
Speaker 1: money and effort into it. But I don't know. It
Speaker 1: is of course being reported by the same people who
Speaker 1: are like and that's why the Democratic Party should continue
Speaker 1: moving to the right and triangulating course forever.
Speaker 2: And they figured it out. Yeah, I think. I mean
Speaker 2: the negative is going to be that potentially it does
Speaker 2: like they don't reach the people who are only like
Speaker 2: half asked about MAGA stuff that might they might get
Speaker 2: to the polls. So there is that, But Again, I
Speaker 2: don't know if it matters, because I think I think
Speaker 2: plan A for Trump just seems to be to steal
Speaker 2: the fucking election. Yeah, it's not based on the performances
Speaker 2: he's given as a candidate, based on like everything you're
Speaker 2: reading about how it's operating and everything that's happening behind
Speaker 2: the scenes. They seem more invested in a different kind
Speaker 2: of Yeah, I guess we'll call it a non traditional
Speaker 2: type of win.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I have another question for you guys, if that's all right. Yes,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna describe everything I say says between us.
Speaker 1: Right, yeah, totally. Yeah.
Speaker 3: You have to let me know if I'm guilty of
Speaker 3: an election crime, because all these stories have me flashed
Speaker 3: back to my sophomore year of college where we were
Speaker 3: looking for money anywhere we could, and then we found
Speaker 3: out that John Corzine, who was running for governor of
Speaker 3: New Jersey as a Democrat at the time, I believe,
Speaker 3: would pay people seventy five dollars a person if they
Speaker 3: would go around and knock on doors. And we were
Speaker 3: picked up in a bus and dropped off a neighborhood
Speaker 3: and went around knocking on doors, just telling people to vote.
Speaker 3: We're explicitly told don't tell people to vote for Corsign,
Speaker 3: just like knock on these doors for a certain amount
Speaker 3: of hours and tell people, hey, have you voted, here's
Speaker 3: your voting place. If you haven't voted, If you have, great,
Speaker 3: have a good day, and then a bus will pick
Speaker 3: you up at the end of the night and you
Speaker 3: will go home and then you will take those seventy
Speaker 3: five dollars and use them to buy weed and sandwiches.
Speaker 3: I think was not like an official directive. But you're
Speaker 3: giving seventy dollars to a college sophomore?
Speaker 1: Is that?
Speaker 4: Is that?
Speaker 2: Is that legal?
Speaker 3: Is that our?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Okay, so well that's a right. What probably happened was
Speaker 2: like a dark money group is the one doing the
Speaker 2: paying of you guys. And the reason you can't advocate
Speaker 2: because they were probably trying to do it on the
Speaker 2: level way where you can't direct something depending on the
Speaker 2: nonprofit like the way it's structured, you can't directly advocate
Speaker 2: for a candidate. But they probably put you in an
Speaker 2: area where it was mostly people that were going to
Speaker 2: vote for Corsine, so it didn't you didn't really have
Speaker 2: to be persuasive. More so just to like motivate people
Speaker 2: and then like, no, we're we're non partisan. We're non partisan.
Speaker 1: We're just reminding people.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah exactly. So no, you're fine, You're fine.
Speaker 1: Did you have a big check that you were that
Speaker 1: you dangled in front of people and said, hey, no,
Speaker 1: they are yours?
Speaker 2: They very smartly. Yes, all right.
Speaker 1: So the whole Trump's stealing the election of it all,
Speaker 1: we we've covered like some specific you know, there's been
Speaker 1: his claims of fraud on social media. There's been a
Speaker 1: physical destruction of ballots by at least one Republican Trump
Speaker 1: supporter in case of a narrow Harris victory. I've seen
Speaker 1: some takes that like, oh, we have nothing to worry
Speaker 1: about because they've made it so the electors can't be
Speaker 1: thrown out this time, Like the thing that they wanted
Speaker 1: Mike Pence to do, they can't do that. But I
Speaker 1: don't know, like that was just one thing they tried
Speaker 1: last time when they didn't really know what the fuck
Speaker 1: they were doing, and Trump didn't have the support of
Speaker 1: the entire Republican Party to steal the election. This time,
Speaker 1: he's had four years to plan, he's consolidated powering Congress,
Speaker 1: and like allegiance and loyalty in Congress and with the
Speaker 1: Supreme Court. It seems so like the one scenario I
Speaker 1: can't foresee is Trump losing a close one and it
Speaker 1: seems like it's going to be close and admitting defeat
Speaker 1: like that's the only that's the only thing that I
Speaker 1: think we could just be like, that's definitely not Can
Speaker 1: I put money on that.
Speaker 3: He is never in the history of time conceded defeat
Speaker 3: on an election he has lost, even like the one
Speaker 3: primary he lost to Ted Cruz, he didn't say that
Speaker 3: was fair, yeah and square, like that is completely out
Speaker 3: the window. The idea of him, first of all, gracefully
Speaker 3: doing anything and second of all gracefully conceding is just
Speaker 3: you know, you want to say, if there's a landslide,
Speaker 3: he'll concede, But even then I don't think it would
Speaker 3: do it. I think the the options are he loses
Speaker 3: narrowly and says it's rigged. He loses big and says
Speaker 3: it's it's rigged. He loses, he wins and says it's rigged,
Speaker 3: but we we still.
Speaker 1: Move one still want which is what he did in
Speaker 1: the in the Clinton Yeah, they never once not said
Speaker 1: that an election he was involved in wasn't rigged. I'm
Speaker 1: pretty sure, like he's never conceded defeat in an argument,
Speaker 1: like in a conversation, like.
Speaker 2: You know, unless he has some kind of like neurological
Speaker 2: events where it's like whoa did he he just he
Speaker 2: fucking said I'm tired, guys, I'm tired.
Speaker 1: Yeah it's over, but yeah, I don't know. There's a
Speaker 1: Vox article talking about like some of the official channels
Speaker 1: they could go through in order to steal a close
Speaker 1: election if Republicans hold the House Speaker Mike Johnson could
Speaker 1: try to interfere with certifying the results. And obviously Trump
Speaker 1: recently made the public statement that he and Mike Johnson.
Speaker 2: Secret thing.
Speaker 1: There's so many secrets.
Speaker 3: There are so many like you almost long for the
Speaker 3: simplicity of his attempts to overturn the last election, because
Speaker 3: there was like an A to B straight line of
Speaker 3: like you were my vice president and you worked for me,
Speaker 3: and I'm telling you throw out the votes or calling
Speaker 3: up uh secretary of State in Georgia and saying find
Speaker 3: votes for me. That kind of stuff was like so clear.
Speaker 3: And now some of the stuff that has happened, and
Speaker 3: it it makes opposing Trump very difficult and frustrating. It
Speaker 3: makes supporting him very funny and fascinating to me because
Speaker 3: one of the major changes that we covered on our
Speaker 3: shows that's happened in the last four years is that
Speaker 3: the like one county of electors, like the elections board
Speaker 3: in one county in Georgia has been like majority stocked
Speaker 3: with Trump sick of fans who truly believe the last
Speaker 3: election was stolen, and they are are like big cheerleaders
Speaker 3: for him and the steal And it's scary that there's
Speaker 3: a bunch of people who who think the system is rigged,
Speaker 3: who are now in charge of whether or not certain
Speaker 3: votes not necessarily get counted, but like how triggers different
Speaker 3: o them, Yeah, how they get counted. And it's a
Speaker 3: fascinating thing to watch as someone like you guys, and
Speaker 3: and like myself who have to watch a lot of Trump.
Speaker 2: Videos all the time.
Speaker 3: The difference between like nine years ago Trump where he
Speaker 3: comes out and he's got very simple ringleader message. It's
Speaker 3: wrong head, but it's compelling. Just like there are bad
Speaker 3: guys they're coming into this country. I'm gonna build a
Speaker 3: wall and it's gonna be free and his fans go
Speaker 3: nuts because they love that message. And now you see
Speaker 3: him at rallies when he's campaigning in Georgia and he's like,
Speaker 3: we need to win this election. We've got some great
Speaker 3: new members of this five person board of Elections in
Speaker 3: Fulton County, Georgia, and they created a beautiful new rule
Speaker 3: that requires a hand count by three different people, and
Speaker 3: if they find any discrepancies, why that.
Speaker 2: Triggers a different rule.
Speaker 3: And like all of his fans the rallies are like, wait, wait, wait,
Speaker 3: this is I liked it when it was the wall,
Speaker 3: and now there are all these other things that I
Speaker 3: need to be. I need to be such a policy
Speaker 3: wonk right to be a Trump supporter.
Speaker 1: Now, that was one of the things that underperformed in
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty two election. It remains to be seen
Speaker 1: if it will underperform like with him actually running the message.
Speaker 1: But like all the candidates who were on the stop
Speaker 1: the steal shit like, people seemed to just be like,
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, like can we like yeah, it's
Speaker 1: like a lot of technicalities and like bullshit that you
Speaker 1: have to like it's a lot of homework to ask
Speaker 1: people to do. And because it's a dumb, bullshit conspiracy theory.
Speaker 1: It's like a bunch of like when you talk to
Speaker 1: a conspiracy theorist, it gets really exhausting quickly because they're
Speaker 1: like ask you to learn thirty different people's names, you know,
Speaker 1: and like the JFK conspiracy theorists are, you know. And
Speaker 1: that's when you get this CIA agent who was sheep
Speaker 1: dipped to be And I'm just like all right, like
Speaker 1: I can't, I can't do this anymore. So I'm hoping
Speaker 1: that that is again like he's kind of over leveraged
Speaker 1: in his messaging in that direction.
Speaker 2: Well yeah, I mean, I think the one thing that's
Speaker 2: consistent is at the very least setting the expect because
Speaker 2: if it is a blowout, the Magaside is prepared to
Speaker 2: think it's not supposed to be a blowout. So like yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: no matter the outcome they have been, they have been
Speaker 2: like inoculating them against like accepting reality. It's purely the
Speaker 2: expectations are high. That's the one thing I found really
Speaker 2: curious is like you know that like that weird like
Speaker 2: betting market, the polymarket shit that like people can like
Speaker 2: bet on the outcome of the election, and how right
Speaker 2: now a lot of the money is on Trump. Part
Speaker 2: of that also feels like this is like another dimension
Speaker 2: of a potential scam where a lot of people are
Speaker 2: gonna pull a bunch, like they're putting a ton of
Speaker 2: money on Trump to have a lot of people bet
Speaker 2: on Trump, but then bet the opposite and get cause
Speaker 2: you see tweets where people like I'm gonna win four
Speaker 2: hundred dollars when Trump wins the election, Like people are
Speaker 2: looking at those odds like this is great, Like I'm
Speaker 2: gonna make all this money that there's also like a
Speaker 2: fleecing of people that could also be happening based on
Speaker 2: like this skewed betting markets. There's just a lot of
Speaker 2: weird expectation, I think from every angle. But yeah, the
Speaker 2: I don't Yeah, I do not expect anything to be
Speaker 2: you know, peaceful or not chaotic.
Speaker 1: No, Yeah, I just I don't know. It really is
Speaker 1: just his belligerence is going to be there. I think
Speaker 1: there's going to be I don't know. It seems like
Speaker 1: he's going to be pushing for like violence if if
Speaker 1: he loses, you know, if he wins, he'll also be
Speaker 1: pushing for violence. And I'll have the US military disposal.
Speaker 1: But if he loses, Like I just I don't see
Speaker 1: a scenario where like he and Elon Musk go like
Speaker 1: Elon Musk is going to continue to own Twitter and
Speaker 1: you know it's going to be It just feels like
Speaker 1: I like, I'm not going to say we're sleepwalking into
Speaker 1: a disaster because I think a lot of people like
Speaker 1: recognize this is what's happening, but there's just like nothing
Speaker 1: to be done about it. There's just like no option
Speaker 1: that isn't a complete fucking nightmare after this election based
Speaker 1: on you know, how who he is and like institutionally,
Speaker 1: like how he's situated, like the one like hopeful note
Speaker 1: I've seen people is like, well, you know when you
Speaker 1: talk to and like pull individual mega supporters, they seem
Speaker 1: like they're going to be more resigned than like willing
Speaker 1: to take up arms this time around. And like maybe
Speaker 1: a lot of the people who were the most extreme
Speaker 1: are just like are in jail right now for January
Speaker 1: the sixth. But that's I don't know, don't I don't
Speaker 1: like any plan where it's like and then we rely
Speaker 1: on the goodwill of the Trump supporters, right, you know,
Speaker 1: cooler heads to prevail, right.
Speaker 3: Fun fact January sixth. This guy's birthday. Ay, hat be
Speaker 3: birth That's right, it's it's a.
Speaker 2: Lot of fun. It's uh.
Speaker 3: Every year on my birthday now, I get phone calls
Speaker 3: from family members who say happy birthday, and then give
Speaker 3: any phone call enough time. And you got a family
Speaker 3: member who will say, gosh, I still remember I was watching.
Speaker 2: The news gluten like, yep, all right, we've reached that
Speaker 2: part of my birthday. Yep, yep.
Speaker 1: And that's what you do. Stand by your statement that that's
Speaker 1: why you were down in DC that day, was celebrating
Speaker 1: your birthday with your friends, and you just kind of
Speaker 1: got swept along with them.
Speaker 2: Up.
Speaker 3: Some people go to bars for their birthday. I thought,
Speaker 3: you know, what do I want for my birthday? I
Speaker 3: want to take in some culture. I want to visit
Speaker 3: our nation's capital and.
Speaker 2: Have fun, let loose, dress up.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And it's just since then you're like you realize, like, oh,
Speaker 2: like January sixth just is the day on our governmental
Speaker 2: calendar for the y It counts the certification of electrical boats.
Speaker 1: Yeah, hey man, happy birthday, Happy early birthday, buddy. Let's
Speaker 1: take a quick break. We'll come back. We'll talk about
Speaker 1: Halloween candy buyback programs.
Speaker 7: We'll be right back, boy, and we're back.
Speaker 2: We're back.
Speaker 1: And it's the day after Halloween. And I mean, if
Speaker 1: you as you listen to this, as you listen to this,
Speaker 1: it's the day after Halloween, you might be getting rid
Speaker 1: of little candy spookiness in our voice because it's still
Speaker 1: Halloween where we are, but we're coming to you from
Speaker 1: the distant past. Twenty four hours ago. Dentists all over
Speaker 1: the country are offering to buy back Halloween candy in
Speaker 1: their continuing effort to be not fun, to make kids'
Speaker 1: lives shitty. So, beginning on November first, children can forfeit
Speaker 1: the bags of candy they worked so hard for in
Speaker 1: exchange for cold, hard cash, which they're probably just going
Speaker 1: to use to buy candy or will it will prepare
Speaker 1: them for the crypto markets of the future. Just a
Speaker 1: terrible fucking deal. They like, they're offering one dollar a
Speaker 1: pound of candy. That's good, that feels low.
Speaker 2: That's like a low ball effort.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Like that's so the in terms of like
Speaker 1: how much I feel like you need an hour to
Speaker 1: collect a pound of candy? I mean, unless you steal shit,
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, unless you're just knocking, knocking, just nice
Speaker 1: try asshole.
Speaker 2: Sorry, I don't care if you have a ring camera.
Speaker 2: I'm pathetic.
Speaker 1: But yeah, So this began in the early two thousands.
Speaker 1: By twenty fourteen, more than twenty five hundred dentists and
Speaker 1: orthodonists had signed up to participate, and so about three
Speaker 1: hundred were participating in two thousand and seven, twenty five
Speaker 1: hundred by twenty fourteen.
Speaker 2: And love the expansion. I just there's something just the
Speaker 2: the title of a candy buyback program when we have
Speaker 2: such a like we associate buyback programs with guns, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean. And they're like, no, no, no,
Speaker 2: the candy buy back program. You're like, fuck, man, Like,
Speaker 2: what about what about actual issues that heard? Like, is
Speaker 2: that something that somebody could do? Like has anybody tried
Speaker 2: to do like a private gun buyback?
Speaker 1: I guess that would just be like a gun store, right,
Speaker 1: I guess anybody could. I'll give you a dollar a
Speaker 1: pound per gun. Anyways, you're probably wondering what happens to
Speaker 1: the candy. I actually wasn't. I assume they just threw
Speaker 1: it out, But no, it actually gets sent directly to
Speaker 1: the US military. And so the dentist behind this idea,
Speaker 1: doctor Chris Kamer with a K, bragged that he didn't
Speaker 1: want to improve kids dental hygiene so much as he
Speaker 1: wanted to send Halloween treats to our troops to let
Speaker 1: them know we appreciate them and as a thank you
Speaker 1: for serving to keep us safe. This was in two
Speaker 1: thousand and five, just a hall.
Speaker 3: Of fame stance for a dentist to take. Well, give
Speaker 3: a shit it out, teeth. This is about the troops.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is about supporting the troops. Tricking your kids
Speaker 1: into supporting the troops. This was in two thousand and five,
Speaker 1: so kind of height of war on terror, invasion of
Speaker 1: Iraq and Afghanistan. So the modern version of the buyback
Speaker 1: similarly has dentists working with existing Halloween candy buyback organizations,
Speaker 1: offering kids as little as a dollar a year for
Speaker 1: their candy and selling it to US soldiers or sending
Speaker 1: it to US soldiers instead. And as an old ABC
Speaker 1: News segment about the trend noted, the troops give most
Speaker 1: of the candy away to local children to build relationships. Now,
Speaker 1: if you just turn your brain off right there, just
Speaker 1: turn it off, fine, that's fine. They're giving the candy
Speaker 1: away to kids who probably don't end a story candy,
Speaker 1: it's a happy story. Don't go stop thinking, stop reading
Speaker 1: the story. Jack.
Speaker 2: You can find Jack on Twitter at jack.
Speaker 1: So the candy was really being rerouted to the Middle
Speaker 1: East to help an invading army ingratiate themselves to the
Speaker 1: local children. Is another way of saying the thing that
Speaker 1: we just said, and that like it's just what the
Speaker 1: practice of American soldiers distributing candy to kids is has
Speaker 1: like so many tragic implications, like tragic like outcomes just
Speaker 1: any anytime, these local kids are like drawn in to
Speaker 1: be around soldiers who are a being targeted by people,
Speaker 1: and like, so there have been bombings at like places
Speaker 1: where a bunch of children were gathered around to get candy,
Speaker 1: and there have been like in the cases of some
Speaker 1: of the worst atrocities carried out by US troops, they
Speaker 1: used candy to like draw kids in and like, if
Speaker 1: you want to read details that will ruin your fucking month,
Speaker 1: you can go more into a third platoon and striker
Speaker 1: vehicle with a y. But it's it's fucking awful.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like because it's again, we don't know how
Speaker 2: this candy is used. But when you know that these
Speaker 2: are like the practice of giving candy and this is
Speaker 2: one of the organizations, it'd be like, and here's how
Speaker 2: they get their candy. Yeah, it's hard to kind of
Speaker 2: be like, oh god, yeah, the more.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no evidence that the specific candy in the
Speaker 1: horrific atrocities came from kids Halloween trade in, but it's
Speaker 1: pretty clear we shouldn't normalize occupying forces distributing candy to children.
Speaker 1: The organization that the Halloween Candy buyback works with is
Speaker 1: also really shitty. It's called Troop Pathon and that's a
Speaker 1: good name. Again, let's just stop there. Troop Pathon sounds fun. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they'll be a little bit cute. Yeah, a little bit
Speaker 1: of fun.
Speaker 2: Is it a marathon? You know, it's a marathon, they trust,
Speaker 2: Oh okay miles. Supporting the troops is not a sprint.
Speaker 2: It's a troo pathon. Thank you, thank you, thank you. Yeah.
Speaker 2: It's like a dance marathon where you have to stay
Speaker 2: up for twenty four hours, trooping the entire time.
Speaker 1: People die from exhaustion, but it doesn't matter anyways. They
Speaker 1: used to be called Move America Forward, and the driving
Speaker 1: force behind Move America Forward was sal Rousseau, the founder
Speaker 1: of the tea party Express Oh Wow Love Yeah so uh,
Speaker 1: and a twenty fourteen Pro public investigation into Move America
Speaker 1: Forward suggested that they mislead donors and provide false information
Speaker 1: about donations, like they claimed that they were sending care
Speaker 1: packages to a marine battalion that was not on the
Speaker 1: continent they claimed they were sending the care packages to.
Speaker 1: They also used images from veterans without their permission, falsely
Speaker 1: claimed to have a partnership with Walter Reed Medical Center
Speaker 1: that they did not scans. So the charity donations, you know,
Speaker 1: the monetary charity donations that they were supposedly sending to
Speaker 1: to the troops for the Troupathon of American Support, were
Speaker 1: actually being used to subsidize three conservative political action committees,
Speaker 1: according to Pro Publica, and the organization denied those allegations,
Speaker 1: were like, we're not changing shit we have. We don't
Speaker 1: have anything to be apologizing for or ashamed of. And
Speaker 1: then they promptly changed their name to t Yeah.
Speaker 2: This is so funny, just such a I mean, this
Speaker 2: this all falls into the right wing grift, Like it's like, no,
Speaker 2: we care about the troops and we don't. We don't,
Speaker 2: we don't, but we know you might now give me
Speaker 2: your money and I can use it for something else.
Speaker 2: But yeah, there's I mean it must be. It's probably
Speaker 2: so opaque too for people who donate their money to
Speaker 2: even understand how what the outcome is of their donation.
Speaker 2: So it's probably like the second there, like I don't know,
Speaker 2: it's for the troops and yeah that's enough for me.
Speaker 3: I do wonder this is such a silly thought. They'll
Speaker 3: need to spend more time on if including America in
Speaker 3: the the name of whatever your your organization is, if
Speaker 3: that's completely gone the other way at this point in
Speaker 3: terms of convincing people that you're doing the right thing.
Speaker 3: I don't know if this is maga or if this
Speaker 3: is something else, but just hearing the name moving America forward, yeah, like.
Speaker 1: Ah, what are you fucking up to?
Speaker 2: Tackles are up?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah forward where? But yeah, it's really it's.
Speaker 1: Not been great for the brand for the American And
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say it, guys, I think Meg has been
Speaker 1: bad for the brand person.
Speaker 2: Wow, okay, yeah, I take a thon.
Speaker 1: I'm a little weird like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's like I'm again, I think there's
Speaker 2: just something so grim even hearing about the idea of
Speaker 2: a candy buyback program, even without all these other details,
Speaker 2: I'm still like, humhmm, this feels odd, it feels strange,
Speaker 2: and I feel like there's so many other ways if
Speaker 2: it's truly about like dental health, a lot better ways
Speaker 2: to do that then to be like, yeah, give us
Speaker 2: your your candy for some for very low return.
Speaker 3: I really liked the idea of it when I was
Speaker 3: not investigating it whatsoever.
Speaker 2: Like this was a thing.
Speaker 3: That for the last couple of years as someone who
Speaker 3: uh in my last place I had, I lived in
Speaker 3: a neighborhood where you got a lot of kids trick
Speaker 3: or treaters, and then I ended up with a lot
Speaker 3: of candy afterwards.
Speaker 2: It was really great cover for me.
Speaker 3: Whenever I would talk to other adults who had too
Speaker 3: much candy, I would be like, well, you know, there's
Speaker 3: this organization that lets you buy back candy and it
Speaker 3: sends the candy to the troops. That was a thing
Speaker 3: that I never had to investigate a because it seemed
Speaker 3: harmless enough. It didn't they A lot of the early
Speaker 3: messaging didn't include that the troops were giving it to
Speaker 3: children specifically. It seemed like this was just like give
Speaker 3: the troops a little bit.
Speaker 1: Of candy, a little treat.
Speaker 2: Huh.
Speaker 3: And the other reason I didn't investigate it was it
Speaker 3: was mostly cover for me that like, if I told
Speaker 3: you that this organization exists, then surely you won't think
Speaker 3: I'm eating all the candy, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I end up eating so much of my
Speaker 1: kids Halloween candy. It's it's really I need to come
Speaker 1: up with a better solution.
Speaker 2: Well, no, no, you're doing your part to fight American imperialism.
Speaker 2: But that's rights.
Speaker 1: But now now I'll feel like a hero when I'm
Speaker 1: doing exactly not a collaborate. I'm not getting my kids
Speaker 1: mixed up. No war crimes and fraud. Fucking father of
Speaker 1: the Year.
Speaker 2: You tell your kids you like scare your kids, like, well,
Speaker 2: do you want to go in front of a war?
Speaker 1: You know you want to go to the I saw
Speaker 1: like chocolate cake for.
Speaker 2: Hague is fucked up. I'm telling you.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, man, why do you want like peanut
Speaker 1: butter cups? Yeah, I'm gonna the doctor says, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: smell like peanut butter cups for a couple months now,
Speaker 1: but nothing could be done.
Speaker 3: Oh I got this great dentist. He doesn't give a
Speaker 3: shit about teeth, so I'm clear.
Speaker 2: Just to ask.
Speaker 1: We just talked about politics. Daniel O'Brien, truly a pleasure
Speaker 1: having you on the daily Zeitgeist. Where can people find you?
Speaker 1: Follow you all that good stuff. You can find me
Speaker 1: on Blue Sky. I'm there every once in a while.
Speaker 1: I mostly left Twitter, but I came back to promote
Speaker 1: a rare live show appearance. I'm going to be doing
Speaker 1: some kind of comedy at Late Stage Live, which is
Speaker 1: a queer and trans focused late night comedy show. It's
Speaker 1: going to be part of the New York Comedy Festival.
Speaker 1: That's at the Bellhouse in Brooklyn on November twelfth.
Speaker 3: At boy ten pm. You could find information about that.
Speaker 3: I know I was when Ella, who is the host
Speaker 3: of that show also a writer for Friend of Ours
Speaker 3: Cody Johnston and David Bell and Katie Stole's Some More
Speaker 3: News show. When Ella reached out, it was like, we
Speaker 3: would love to have you as a guest on our
Speaker 3: late night show in New York. I was so thrilled
Speaker 3: at the idea of doing comedy in New York in
Speaker 3: front of people again. And then when she said ten
Speaker 3: pm on a Tuesday, I was like, Oh, that's.
Speaker 2: Right, that's what this life was like.
Speaker 1: That's what it was.
Speaker 2: But I'll be doing that November twelfth.
Speaker 3: It'll be a week after the election, doing late night
Speaker 3: show that you know, we'll see what everyone's mood is.
Speaker 3: There's no way to predict what the vibe is going
Speaker 3: to be, but we'll be there doing making as as
Speaker 3: much fun as we can.
Speaker 1: Beyond that, you.
Speaker 3: Can listen to the show Quick Question with Sore and Daniel.
Speaker 3: It's a podcast I do with my best friend and
Speaker 3: former Cracked campadre Soren Bowie, who is currently a writer
Speaker 3: for An American Dad.
Speaker 2: We are two.
Speaker 3: Working comedy writers for television, and we never talk about it.
Speaker 3: We mostly just it's an hour long phone call where
Speaker 3: two buddies catch up every week and you get to
Speaker 3: listen to.
Speaker 2: It if you want.
Speaker 1: I think, but what if you guys talked about comedy,
Speaker 1: Like have you ever thought about that? Like a comedy
Speaker 1: podcast where people like talk about comedy.
Speaker 2: Every once in a while.
Speaker 3: We think, I want to just like sit down and
Speaker 3: be like, so, sorry, who are your guys?
Speaker 2: Who's coming up for you.
Speaker 1: We look it at.
Speaker 2: Who you like it? Who you like you? I like
Speaker 2: Mark there.
Speaker 1: It's so easy to make fun of that show, but
Speaker 1: he does it well. All right, Daniel, Is there a
Speaker 1: work a media that you've been enjoying?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 3: Yes, Tina Frimmel. It's the last name is spelled f
Speaker 3: R I am L. She is a comedian that the
Speaker 3: good folks at Instagram's algorithm brought onto my feed. She
Speaker 3: is a young, up and coming comedian. One of the
Speaker 3: things that will immediately distinguish her to people who aren't
Speaker 3: familiar is that she does have cerebral palsy, and her
Speaker 3: comedy touches on that, but is also just like, genuinely like.
Speaker 3: The two parts of her work that I love is
Speaker 3: that I'm hearing from someone in comedy like a voice
Speaker 3: and a perspective that I'm just not really getting anywhere else.
Speaker 3: And two, she is just hilarious. She's one of the
Speaker 3: funniest people to ever do it. I can't believe how
Speaker 3: young she is. It's it's very frustrating, and I cannot
Speaker 3: recommend her enough. I've been working in comedy in some
Speaker 3: form or another since two thousand and seven, which means
Speaker 3: I'm old and that I can still be like surprised
Speaker 3: and excited by a new voice is really really fun.
Speaker 3: So Tina Frimmel check her out.
Speaker 1: Fr I am l great, no, great recommendation.
Speaker 2: She got it.
Speaker 1: Miles, where can people find you? There a workimedia you've
Speaker 1: been enjoying? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, wherever they have at Symbols at Miles of Gray
Speaker 2: basketball talk. That's Miles and Jack on Man boost E's
Speaker 2: ninety day Fiance talk. I do that on four to
Speaker 2: twenty day fiance. Some tweets I like. First one is
Speaker 2: from at Bimbo Underscore Hours. Reagan Lee Stallion tweeted, you
Speaker 2: gotta dabble in just enough for recreational drug use in
Speaker 2: your youth to develop a solid taste in music, but
Speaker 2: not enough to permanently addle your brain. It's a fine line,
Speaker 2: and I felt that. I felt that as someone who
Speaker 2: prides themselves on their musical taste.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 2: And then Josh Gondleman again if he again he's a
Speaker 2: Boston guy. His hate for New York stuff, it comes
Speaker 2: through in really awesome ways at Josh gondle treated sports
Speaker 2: not New York stuff.
Speaker 1: I think he lives.
Speaker 2: But when it comes like Nix or Donkey on New
Speaker 2: York Sports stuff. He comes out like with his last thing,
Speaker 2: referencing the three and oho the three to zero come
Speaker 2: back from the Red Sox against the Yankees this time.
Speaker 2: Josh Gondoman treated, the Yankee should have a fan that
Speaker 2: helps put the ball in their players.
Speaker 1: So good, God bless them, God bless him, and God
Speaker 1: bless the Yankees. You know, tough, tough to see. You
Speaker 1: hate to see the Yankees lose. Some tweets I've been
Speaker 1: enjoying Alice doesn't have bangs at cinema. Milf tweeted, Nicole
Speaker 1: Kidman being in a film called Baby Girl is actually
Speaker 1: perfect because it's like another version of her last name
Speaker 1: kid Man baby Girl.
Speaker 2: God damn it.
Speaker 1: So I never noticed that baby and Frank Bullet tweeted
Speaker 1: watching the Yankees loses like seeing cops going to jail. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I kept tweeting, texting this to you, mild I just
Speaker 1: like every new person who would come up on the Yankees,
Speaker 1: I'd be like, God, each one looks more like a
Speaker 1: fucking cop. It's crazy, culminating with the guy with the
Speaker 1: mustache and the NYPD turtle neck underneath his uniform.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, anyways, you can find me on Twitter at Jack
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Speaker 1: where we post our episode than our footnotes, we link
Speaker 1: off to the information that we talked about in today's episode,
Speaker 1: as well as a song.
Speaker 2: That we think you might enjoy.
Speaker 1: Myles, what song do you think people might enjoy?
Speaker 2: Just look, it was just some something nice and easy
Speaker 2: as we go into a stressful weekend. Probably this is
Speaker 2: a track by Unknown Mortal Orchestra. You may have heard
Speaker 2: it's called Nadia n a DJA, but I love Unknown
Speaker 2: Mortal Orchestra. Unnarn Mortal Orchestras.
Speaker 1: Is Australian and sometimes it's slips yeah sorry, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: exactly losing the accent.
Speaker 2: But kilometers gray. But yeah, yeah, this is a great track.
Speaker 2: Nadia enjoy and just relax, relax and don't think I
Speaker 2: missed that kilometers Gray. That was very good.
Speaker 3: I really had to sit and think for a second.
Speaker 3: Is that did they use that?
Speaker 2: Sister?
Speaker 1: I feel like if anybody outside of the US would
Speaker 1: be not using it, it would be Australia, but I
Speaker 1: do think they're on the they're on that km shit.
Speaker 2: All right, phew, all right.
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