Speaker 1: Scrubbing In with Becca Tilly and Tanya rap An iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 2: Hello everybody, we are scrubbing in, scrub it up dumb.
Speaker 3: Today we have Oh wait, I.
Speaker 1: Didn't tell you guys. I was driving. I was driving
Speaker 1: the other day and I'll actually I'll post this. We
Speaker 1: saw this car that had a license plate that said
Speaker 1: it looks like it said let's scrub in. Its like
Speaker 1: l E S. Hold on, it was like L E S.
Speaker 1: Scrub and then like in and so Robbie and I
Speaker 1: pull up next to the car and we're like, like
Speaker 1: thinking it was a scrubber or something, and we're like, oh,
Speaker 1: it's a license I let's scrub in like and he
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, less carbon. I was like, it was
Speaker 1: like an electric car. Yeah, so its not what I
Speaker 1: thought it was, but it could have been. It could
Speaker 1: have been.
Speaker 4: Your license plate.
Speaker 1: Please send us, Please send it, because I was so
Speaker 1: excited to be the scrubber and just wanted this person
Speaker 1: wild less carbon.
Speaker 2: Yeah you found an environmentalist, yes, yeah, so valuable.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yes, also we need those people too.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So sorry derail this because we have a really great
Speaker 1: guest today.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we have.
Speaker 2: She's a huge social media influencer, and she started her
Speaker 2: career in twenty twelve when she was just nineteen years old.
Speaker 2: She now hals over one point seven million followers on
Speaker 2: Instagram and has started a haircare brand, Divvy.
Speaker 1: She is married to Jordan Ramirez and has two kids,
Speaker 1: Stella and Stratton.
Speaker 2: And she also has her own podcast called de Influence,
Speaker 2: where she talks unfiltered about her life as a mom, influencer, wife,
Speaker 2: and much more.
Speaker 3: Please help us.
Speaker 1: Welcome Danny Austin.
Speaker 3: Welcome.
Speaker 1: I left the intro a hello, as you should be
Speaker 1: our guest. I'm excited. Yeah.
Speaker 2: We were just talking about how you recently launched a
Speaker 2: podcast and it's a new new venture of your many
Speaker 2: ventures that you take on. Is your personality, like I
Speaker 2: always need to be trying or doing something new?
Speaker 5: Do you know the enneagram? Are you all familiar?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Yeah, so I'm a three. So I was always like,
Speaker 5: which one is that?
Speaker 1: The achiever?
Speaker 5: It's hard to be married to me because my end
Speaker 5: and my husband's a perfection.
Speaker 1: She's a one. I'm a one two?
Speaker 3: Really?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Oh, you guys are tough too, because you can't like,
Speaker 1: you can't start anything because that's perfect has to be
Speaker 1: perfect exactly and you have you have to do it
Speaker 1: your way. Yeah.
Speaker 5: So yeah, I just always liked to just be busy.
Speaker 5: Like in school growing up, I always played every sport.
Speaker 5: I was like packed in the summers. I just liked having,
Speaker 5: you know, that structure and schedule, and so it kind
Speaker 5: of just trickled over to my adult years. But no,
Speaker 5: I the whole thing started when I was nineteen. I
Speaker 5: started a YouTube channel, like one of those like I'm
Speaker 5: like an og where I was just sitting in my
Speaker 5: dorm room filming videos of myself. But I couldn't tell
Speaker 5: anyone because it was so embarrassing, Like, you know, I
Speaker 5: was in authority at the time at the University of Yeah, kaya, No,
Speaker 5: I was like the.
Speaker 1: First sorority person ever.
Speaker 5: But so yeah, I just started making videos in my
Speaker 5: dorm room and didn't tell any of my friends. And
Speaker 5: the only reason why my friends found out is because
Speaker 5: at the time, I had a really young audience, you know,
Speaker 5: they were like middle school, high school, because that's who
Speaker 5: was consuming YouTube at the time. And I was at
Speaker 5: a music festival with all my friends and these like
Speaker 5: little girls run up and they're like, Danny, we love
Speaker 5: your holes or your YouTube videos. And my my friends
Speaker 5: were like, you're what because it was just so so
Speaker 5: different and so new. So yeah, since then, I just, uh,
Speaker 5: I feel like, what's so fun about it is because
Speaker 5: when you work for yourself like that and you're creating content, like,
Speaker 5: you can do so much with it. You can go
Speaker 5: in so many different directions. So yeah, I've just been
Speaker 5: kind of busy ever since.
Speaker 2: But to me sometimes that feels overwhelming because I feel
Speaker 2: like it's like a constant I'm trying to keep up
Speaker 2: with something new or like what everyone's doing, like because
Speaker 2: there's so many opportunities, Like I feel like there's people
Speaker 2: like you who see it as like I'm going to
Speaker 2: take that on and try something new and if it
Speaker 2: doesn't work out, whatever, I tried it, And then there's
Speaker 2: people like me who are like it's too much.
Speaker 3: Like how do you keep up?
Speaker 5: It's so stressful. I think the biggest thing that I've
Speaker 5: always tried to focus on, which I know this kind
Speaker 5: of sounds cliche, but like I truly think about like
Speaker 5: my girls, and I love listening to what they want
Speaker 5: and then giving them more of what they want. And
Speaker 5: so I remember when I was like nineteen twenty years old,
Speaker 5: I had this like kind of avatar in my mind,
Speaker 5: and I'm like, her name is Sam, She's also nineteen
Speaker 5: years old, maybe she's in college, she's trying to figure
Speaker 5: her life out, and so I would just create all
Speaker 5: this content like just geared towards her, and it made
Speaker 5: it less overwhelming when I just thought of like one person.
Speaker 5: But also, I mean, I always have to remind myself
Speaker 5: even if, like if you think of one hundred people
Speaker 5: in a room, that's like a ton of people that
Speaker 5: you're influencing. And so if I could kind of get
Speaker 5: over the numbers and really focused on like that one girl,
Speaker 5: it made it more fun for me, like kind of
Speaker 5: took the stress off. So yeah, since then, you know,
Speaker 5: YouTube was it for a little bit. Then you know,
Speaker 5: your Instagram came out and then switched to TikTok and
Speaker 5: blogging and all the different spaces, and so I've just
Speaker 5: kind of enjoyed popping around and just seeing where you know,
Speaker 5: we're inspired.
Speaker 2: How do you your I think one of your something
Speaker 2: that sets you apart is that you have maintained a
Speaker 2: really loyal fan base that's like so engaged with everything
Speaker 2: you do. Like it's rare to see people like I look.
Speaker 2: I was looking at your page and I was looking
Speaker 2: at just the comments, and I was like, it's it's
Speaker 2: really impressive, especially on Instagram. Now, I feel like to
Speaker 2: have that type of engagement in that following, like what
Speaker 2: do you think it was or what do you feel
Speaker 2: like you do that makes you different from from other
Speaker 2: people who've been because a lot of people have, you know,
Speaker 2: that was kind of the start of Instagram, was like
Speaker 2: that twenty fifteen era, right.
Speaker 3: Exactly, and you've been able to maintain it since then,
Speaker 3: Like what did you.
Speaker 1: Started Instagram twenty fifteen?
Speaker 5: Well, probably earlier earlier than that because it came out
Speaker 5: so I mean, oh, right, right, I was thinking two
Speaker 5: thousand and five for some right, like.
Speaker 3: The influencing like kind of that era was like yes.
Speaker 5: So when I first started my Instagram and blogging, I
Speaker 5: was trying so hard, you know, I had the hair extensions,
Speaker 5: and I was doing the outfit pictures. I'm traveling all
Speaker 5: over I'm posting like three instagrams a day, doing these
Speaker 5: outfit try ons and this sort of thing, and it
Speaker 5: was just I feel like at that point, like I
Speaker 5: don't know, it didn't feel real. And so I got
Speaker 5: to a point where especially when Instagram stories came out,
Speaker 5: I was like, you know what, I'm just gonna be
Speaker 5: myself and like take the hair extensions out, like just
Speaker 5: be like a goof, like just just see what happens.
Speaker 5: If people don't like it, then I'll just get a
Speaker 5: different job. And so I started doing that, and just
Speaker 5: like I started with this thing called retainer talks where
Speaker 5: I would get in bed at night and put my
Speaker 5: retainer in and just like talk about life. And I
Speaker 5: was like slobbering everywhere, you know, and I was talking about,
Speaker 5: you know, wedding planning, being engaged, how much I hated
Speaker 5: being engaged. I think engagement is like sometimes the hardest
Speaker 5: time in your.
Speaker 1: Life because a lot at the time, well I'm.
Speaker 5: Sorry, no, but it's hard actually, like because you're still
Speaker 5: you're merging two different lives. And you know, my husband
Speaker 5: and I are we didn't live together, so like he's
Speaker 5: living with my parents, I'm living at home, and we're
Speaker 5: trying to merge our two different lives, and it was
Speaker 5: just it was hard, you know, two different leases, two
Speaker 5: different friend groups, all these things. And so I just
Speaker 5: talked about like real things for the first time. And
Speaker 5: I think people just really related to that. And I
Speaker 5: think my biggest thing was just focusing on like building
Speaker 5: more so of like a loyal community instead of having
Speaker 5: a ton of followers. And I think that people could
Speaker 5: kind of sense that they felt it. I loved planning
Speaker 5: things where people could come together. We'd like needed a
Speaker 5: coffee shop, or I'd plan like a Taylor Swift listening
Speaker 5: night where they'd come over and maybe win like a
Speaker 5: ticket to come over and have like cookies or something.
Speaker 5: And so just trying to make the community feel smaller
Speaker 5: I think actually made it bigger, if that makes sense.
Speaker 3: You were like your mindset was like quality over quantity, Like.
Speaker 2: You were exactly like if I can if I can
Speaker 2: interact and connect with or people connect to me, then
Speaker 2: if they're engaged, then more will come if that's what's
Speaker 2: meant to be.
Speaker 3: But they're gonna be my focus exactly.
Speaker 5: And I think too, I how I looked at Instagram
Speaker 5: stories because that's kind of how I grew. I feel
Speaker 5: like my loyal audience, that's how I still take care of,
Speaker 5: which is so so annoying because they disappear. So sometimes
Speaker 5: I'm like, man, why do I do that? Like why
Speaker 5: am I not creating this content like on YouTube or
Speaker 5: somewhere it lists or whatever. I still don't know the
Speaker 5: answer to that, but I do feel like it helped
Speaker 5: me create a very like loyal engagement with my audience
Speaker 5: because I wake up with them, like from the moment
Speaker 5: I wake out of bed, and like I so they
Speaker 5: call it like the Danny mullet, Like I have a
Speaker 5: mullet whenever I wake up and I just walked through
Speaker 5: my day, I share like what products I'm using, things
Speaker 5: that I'm excited about, maybe things I'm struggling with, and
Speaker 5: I take them pretty much all the way till like
Speaker 5: five o'clock and then that's whenever I get off of it.
Speaker 5: It's like workday, you know. So I just kind of
Speaker 5: always like envisioned my day as like a reality TV show.
Speaker 5: It's fun.
Speaker 2: You kind of you literally created a miniature reality TV
Speaker 2: dating show for your brothers, right, I did think, wait.
Speaker 1: Did you almost date Taylor Swift?
Speaker 5: I mean that would be cool. So what happened was
Speaker 5: when speak Now came out, my brother did a cover
Speaker 5: of it, and she tweeted it, retweeted it and said, man,
Speaker 5: I love this cover of Sparks fly by Land in Austin,
Speaker 5: and my brother was so excited. He lives in Nashville.
Speaker 5: He went to Belmont University. He still lives there. He
Speaker 5: was so excited. He went to Harris Teeters, which is
Speaker 5: like their local grocery store, and he woul to go
Speaker 5: buy a cookie cake because he was so excited. That's
Speaker 5: how he celebrates, you know, with his buddies. And he's
Speaker 5: like celebrating that Taylor Swift retweeted him, and he's in line,
Speaker 5: and none other than Taylor Swift is behind him in
Speaker 5: line buying groceries.
Speaker 1: So my brother freaks out.
Speaker 5: He turns around, Taylor Swift freaks out, goes land in Austin,
Speaker 5: What what are you new? Yes? But you know this
Speaker 5: is also when I mean she was famous. Obviously she
Speaker 5: was still living in Nashville, but she wasn't like right right,
Speaker 5: and she's like land in Austin, I thought you lived
Speaker 5: in Australia, Like what the heck? And so they actually
Speaker 5: she gave him her dad's number and then Landon connected
Speaker 5: with her dad, went to her show in Knoxville, went backstage,
Speaker 5: hung out with mister and missus Swift the entire time,
Speaker 5: and he kind of like mister Swift kind of like
Speaker 5: mentored my brother for a little bit, took him the
Speaker 5: whole Cogan's house, which is so random, gave him like
Speaker 5: a bunch of like great advice. So yeah, that's crazy.
Speaker 5: You met Taylor Swift, you probably got better. I mean
Speaker 5: you probably yeah, you know, I mean, I think it's.
Speaker 1: Very serendipitous that that was during the Speak Now era
Speaker 1: yea and the re release with the feat Now and
Speaker 1: Taylor Swift is single? Is your brother single? You know what?
Speaker 5: I well, I don't know.
Speaker 1: But I had had a plan.
Speaker 5: I don't know for sure, So if you have anyone,
Speaker 5: I mean, Taylor Swift included, but I kind of already
Speaker 5: like let that ship say. I'm like, you know, yeah, it.
Speaker 1: Got a little bit aligning again, I don't know, I
Speaker 1: don't know.
Speaker 2: But you did the like many dating series for him,
Speaker 2: and that was through Instagram, right, that was through Instagram.
Speaker 5: Because so how that came about was my brother was
Speaker 5: so my brother's thirty four years old and he's just
Speaker 5: like a typical like he's just living life and he
Speaker 5: doesn't really like he didn't know when he wanted to
Speaker 5: settle down. I'm like, that's fine, but if I have
Speaker 5: any say, like I want to know who's going to
Speaker 5: be my sister in law, Like I'd like to have
Speaker 5: a say, you know. And so he came home to
Speaker 5: Dallas and a girl just blew him off, like didn't
Speaker 5: show up to a date. And so I was, you know,
Speaker 5: posting on stories and I shared what happened to Landon
Speaker 5: and all these dms started coming.
Speaker 1: They're like, i'll date your brother. I'm available.
Speaker 5: So light bulb went off and we created like a
Speaker 5: little mini Bachelor or a season for him within like
Speaker 5: twenty four hours.
Speaker 3: It was wild.
Speaker 5: We had girls videos, so we chose like the you know,
Speaker 5: three girls. He went on dates with them. We ended
Speaker 5: up doing season two and then he stayed with the girl,
Speaker 5: the winner, for like over a year and they broke
Speaker 5: up with the winner.
Speaker 1: The girl he loved.
Speaker 5: But it's pretty impressive. I was like, dang, I'm pretty
Speaker 5: good at this.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I hear, like your next venture just launching up dating?
Speaker 1: Is there? Like do you have a hosting bud now?
Speaker 5: Like there?
Speaker 1: Would you ever want to?
Speaker 5: Like? No, only if it's on my channels. I like
Speaker 5: having control.
Speaker 1: Oh interesting, Okay, Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 5: I mean, if anything, I would do something like more
Speaker 5: like love is blind but I already tried twice for
Speaker 5: my brother, so he's out. I have to find someone new.
Speaker 2: Sorry, I'm sure you could have someone apply to uh
Speaker 2: have you set up their dating their dating scene?
Speaker 1: Well?
Speaker 5: You know. You know what's funny is since that happened,
Speaker 5: I get so many emails that are like, hey, Danny,
Speaker 5: like I heard you're a matchmaker, like.
Speaker 1: You could do like random matchmaking, yes, and somebody specific
Speaker 1: just like for different people. I'm down.
Speaker 5: Have you seen Jewish Jewish matchmaking?
Speaker 1: No, but I've heard a lot about it.
Speaker 5: It is so so good, you'll have to watch. I'm
Speaker 5: like inspired, like I would do that job.
Speaker 1: I've heard it's really amazing.
Speaker 3: You would love it.
Speaker 5: And it's really interesting because it's like basically shows like
Speaker 5: the different types of cultures like that, like some Jewish
Speaker 5: people like you have different like Messianic Jews you have,
Speaker 5: and how they all come together and like work through
Speaker 5: their different cultures that they've grown up in. And it's like,
Speaker 5: I don't know, it's fascinating, Like I loved it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love him.
Speaker 5: DD.
Speaker 2: Do you mentioned so you and your husband didn't live
Speaker 2: together before you got married.
Speaker 1: We didn't.
Speaker 5: We met in Austin and then I was living in
Speaker 5: a house with bloggers, a blogger hog house, a blog
Speaker 5: house with two other girls. And then he moved back
Speaker 5: to Austin but didn't have a place to live because
Speaker 5: he didn't want to sign a lease, so he he
Speaker 5: lived with my parents.
Speaker 3: Wow, yeah, recommend it.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't recommend it.
Speaker 3: No, Yeah was that for a reason?
Speaker 2: Like? Is that was that just a choice? Like you
Speaker 2: were like, I never want to love us, Like I
Speaker 2: don't want to live with someone before I get married
Speaker 2: to them.
Speaker 5: I guess I kind of just like I think that's
Speaker 5: just the way that I wanted to do it. I
Speaker 5: mean I think the least definitely came into play. But yeah,
Speaker 5: I think it made it so much more special, like
Speaker 5: whenever we finally moved in together, and.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like I really I loved it.
Speaker 5: I love whenever, Like I felt like the like we
Speaker 5: had something to look forward to. Yeah, you know, I
Speaker 5: thought it was sweet.
Speaker 2: Well, I was gonna ask was there an adjustment period?
Speaker 2: Because like, you learned so much about someone while you're
Speaker 2: living with them, and that's kind of like a you know,
Speaker 2: you kind of go through that phase of being like, yeah,
Speaker 2: you're annoying, and how you do this and then like
Speaker 2: sometimes it's a deal breaker for people because they're like.
Speaker 3: I didn't know that you did this, and now I'm
Speaker 3: living with you.
Speaker 2: What the heck did you have like that adjustment period
Speaker 2: of like living with someone like that.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, So on our honeymoon, which of course, like
Speaker 5: it's gonna happen no matter what when you move in
Speaker 5: with something, I don't care what time standard, whether you're
Speaker 5: married or they're not, Like you're gonna have to work
Speaker 5: through those conflicts and okay, so my brother like my brother, well, sorry,
Speaker 5: my husband is a one like I told you. So
Speaker 5: we went on our honeymoon, and I'm like, uh, I
Speaker 5: liked I like spontaneity, Like I like to wake up
Speaker 5: and be like, what's gonna happen today. I don't love
Speaker 5: to have a like everything, like like I want adventure,
Speaker 5: but I want to be able to like figure it
Speaker 5: out all my own. And so my husband when I
Speaker 5: got home from our honeymoon, the first night that we
Speaker 5: woke up, I rolled over and there was like a
Speaker 5: full schedule of my day. It was like seven am
Speaker 5: to eight am, workout, eight thirty to nine pm, like
Speaker 5: you know, read the Bible and small you know, prey
Speaker 5: and then breakfast from ten. I was like, I took
Speaker 5: that piece of paper. I was like, like, rip that
Speaker 5: thing apart. I was like, you're not gonna tell me
Speaker 5: what to do. He was just very like structured like
Speaker 5: that and likes to run everything like my dream.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and so there was definitely that adjustment where I
Speaker 5: was like, no, no, like I don't wear pants in the
Speaker 5: morning if I want to sleep in a little bit,
Speaker 5: like it's gonna be okay. But yeah, we figured it out.
Speaker 5: We're kind of like Yin Yin and yang.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, y'all have definitely figured it out because you now
Speaker 2: are how long have you been married.
Speaker 5: I've been married well five years.
Speaker 3: Okay, so but do you have two kids? You've two kids.
Speaker 3: You've advanced past the annoying quirks.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, but it has it's okay. But I
Speaker 1: feel like, because you say you're not structured, but I
Speaker 1: feel like, at least from what I see on your
Speaker 1: social media, do you have like a like a plan
Speaker 1: like you're like, Okay, this is what I'm going to
Speaker 1: do this week and I kind of get up and
Speaker 1: do it. Or do you just kind of like as
Speaker 1: a day as the days go, that's kind of what
Speaker 1: you do.
Speaker 5: I so most day fifty fifty. I would say fifty
Speaker 5: to fifty. But we do like typically will look at
Speaker 5: the calendar and be like, Okay, let's do this this week.
Speaker 5: But if it's like a prank or something like silly,
Speaker 5: that's always in the moment. But like, for example, we're
Speaker 5: here in LA and this morning Jordan called me is like, hey,
Speaker 5: what about if we go to the BlackBerry farms in
Speaker 5: Tennessee like right after this trip. And I'm like, okay,
Speaker 5: but we didn't pack for it. No, let's just go.
Speaker 5: So things like that like just.
Speaker 1: Kind of like spreare the moment.
Speaker 3: But have you brought that out of him? Oh?
Speaker 5: I was gonna say that number one or the dark
Speaker 5: side of having fun in life? We can enjoy ourselves too.
Speaker 2: We were talking about this before you came in. We
Speaker 2: saw on your Instagram story that you said you get
Speaker 2: a little anxious about coming to LA because you've been
Speaker 2: canceled while you were here.
Speaker 5: Every time you come here, Like yeah, I'm just curious,
Speaker 5: like what is what happened?
Speaker 1: So is it every time you come here?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 5: Not every time, but a lot of times, so you know,
Speaker 5: diet Prada. Yeah that account. Yeah, they've they've come at
Speaker 5: me quite a few times. This was so long ago,
Speaker 5: but I was in LA every single time. I had
Speaker 5: like two hundred thousand followers on Instagram and it was
Speaker 5: probably like how long ago, maybe six or seven years ago.
Speaker 5: And so that was the first time. Second time was
Speaker 5: diret Prada. Again, I was by myself in La. Third
Speaker 5: time was I wasn't really canceled, but like I this,
Speaker 5: I made this like top list for Forbes and did
Speaker 5: this interview where like, I'm just not used to doing
Speaker 5: interviews where they just asked me a lot of really
Speaker 5: tough questions and I thought, I like spiraled and I
Speaker 5: was like, oh my gosh, they're gonna clip this, take this,
Speaker 5: Like I thought that I did something wrong by taking
Speaker 5: the interview. So then I like went to the car
Speaker 5: and cried and cried and like, So that was my
Speaker 5: third time in La.
Speaker 2: Yeah wait, so what why is it when you're in LA?
Speaker 3: Is that just coincidence?
Speaker 5: I think it's coincidence, but it's just funny that it
Speaker 5: always happens.
Speaker 1: I was like, when I was seeing that, I was like,
Speaker 1: I honestly commend you because that term like canceled, Like
Speaker 1: it is very scary. Yeah, it's also so like it's
Speaker 1: just this thing that just happens. It's like, oh, you're canceled,
Speaker 1: You're this, And I don't get that vibe from you.
Speaker 1: If I were canceled, I would like sit in a
Speaker 1: shell and be like yeah, and I feel like you
Speaker 1: don't have that well when that was going on in
Speaker 1: your life, like how did you just keep going?
Speaker 5: So I think we have to real a lot of
Speaker 5: times that you get hate or people are upsets, usually
Speaker 5: it's coming from like an outside audience that doesn't actually
Speaker 5: know you. And so that's why I'm able to laugh
Speaker 5: about it now because I know for sure like even
Speaker 5: when my audience like here's you know, all the details
Speaker 5: of what happens, they're like, dude, like we know you,
Speaker 5: Like it's fine, Like that was just somebody trying to
Speaker 5: get clicks, you know. And so I think that's kind
Speaker 5: of what gives me a lot of peace. And then
Speaker 5: also like when you get offline and you're around all
Speaker 5: your friends and your family and like nobody cares, then
Speaker 5: I think you realize you're like, Okay, I'm only upset
Speaker 5: because I keep scrolling and I keep reading all these
Speaker 5: things that I just shouldn't be I shouldn't be reading,
Speaker 5: and when I get off I'm like, oh, this is
Speaker 5: actually real life. So so now I feel like it's
Speaker 5: happened like I've been I've been doing this for ten years.
Speaker 5: It's not like I'm like totally new to it. So
Speaker 5: I feel like I kind of know the cycles of
Speaker 5: hate now. And it still hurts, like you said, like
Speaker 5: I still do the first week after, like I'm at home,
Speaker 5: I don't want to leave, I'm so upset, I'm crying
Speaker 5: in bed. Happened a lot with postpartum too, because I
Speaker 5: felt like I was like extremely fragile, and when people
Speaker 5: were saying, you know, you're a bad mom or you're
Speaker 5: a bad thiss like you believe it because you're so
Speaker 5: like you're not in a good place anyway, right, your
Speaker 5: hormones are like raging, Yeah, exactly. So So No, it's
Speaker 5: still really tough, but I just I think whenever it
Speaker 5: happens now, I just say, oh, I'm getting hit again
Speaker 5: and being canceled again, It's going to be okay.
Speaker 2: I think sometimes we forget, like when you get offline,
Speaker 2: especially your so much of your life is lived on
Speaker 2: social media and online that like I think people I
Speaker 2: forget sometimes, like if I just put my phone down,
Speaker 2: I can feel peace, Like I can experience like normalcy
Speaker 2: and like the people who love me, and and not
Speaker 2: overthink strangers on the internet having an opinion about something.
Speaker 5: Yes, do you have strict boundaries with like your social
Speaker 5: media or what you're posting or your phone.
Speaker 3: I don't have.
Speaker 2: Strict boundaries with anything, unfortunately, but I do. I have
Speaker 2: figured out that when I start feeling that really heaviness
Speaker 2: and anxiousness, that I if I can trace it back,
Speaker 2: like if I can go back to my day and
Speaker 2: try to think of where that started, it typically started
Speaker 2: from something I saw by looking at my phone. So
Speaker 2: I'm like, Okay, if I put my phone down, then
Speaker 2: I don't have to even put myself in the position
Speaker 2: to feel this way, right, If I can go outside,
Speaker 2: feel the sun, go to the beach, like do something
Speaker 2: that feels like fuels me as opposed to just doom
Speaker 2: scrolling and getting myself in deeper to a hole where
Speaker 2: I'm like, what am I even? Like? Why am I
Speaker 2: wasting my time and my energy on something that like
Speaker 2: does My scrolling is always.
Speaker 1: Like quotes and there was like dark quotes, you know,
Speaker 1: and I just keep clicking and there's more quotes and
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh yeah that one.
Speaker 3: Oh oh, and.
Speaker 1: Like it's always like triggering in some way. Yes, it does,
Speaker 1: like knows my weaknesses. Are you in your dms? Yes,
Speaker 1: My dms are quite lovely though.
Speaker 5: Oh good, oyeah good, Yeah mine are for the most part.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I quite enjoy the DMS that I guess.
Speaker 2: Well, I was gonna say, because you you do have
Speaker 2: a massive following, and I think that with with a
Speaker 2: big following comes the opportunity for more criticism and more negativity.
Speaker 2: So have you found that, like as you've grown and
Speaker 2: as you like notice like, oh I'm gaining a bigger follower,
Speaker 2: I'm getting more you know, a bigger fan base that
Speaker 2: there you notice an increase in in like the negative
Speaker 2: DMS or the hate.
Speaker 5: I guess I think that's only natural. Especially whenever you
Speaker 5: do something that's a little like you put yourself out there.
Speaker 5: I always know, okay, something might happen from it, whether
Speaker 5: it's a podcast or you know, if I launch a
Speaker 5: new product for Divvy or whatever it is. It's just
Speaker 5: I think that's just kind of part of putting yourself
Speaker 5: out out there these days. But but yeah, I think
Speaker 5: I think that definitely happens. But like you said, I
Speaker 5: overall my my audience is very kind, like my dms
Speaker 5: are very kind. It's I think that the influx of
Speaker 5: negativity comes maybe if it's like a Facebook group that's like,
Speaker 5: let's go get her, you know, and then you can
Speaker 5: always tell those days. I'm like, okay, we're just going
Speaker 5: to get off.
Speaker 2: Yeah today, I was gonna ask, do you have strict
Speaker 2: boundaries with your well.
Speaker 5: I mean I have two kids now, so it's I
Speaker 5: don't know if it's like a strict boundary.
Speaker 1: Like I have to.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, but I will say, like after five,
Speaker 5: you probably won't see me post a lot, so I
Speaker 5: kind of treat it like a like a workday.
Speaker 3: Yeah that's really smart.
Speaker 1: Yeah that is really smart. Actually, but you mentioned Divvy
Speaker 1: and when did you like launch that? What year was
Speaker 1: that I launched that?
Speaker 5: In man? Was that twenty twenty twenty one?
Speaker 1: You didn't remember. I'm so bad with dates.
Speaker 5: I'm like, yeah, so that was born out of in college.
Speaker 5: I when I was doing YouTube, I was also studying
Speaker 5: to be to go to physical therapy school. I was
Speaker 5: just like stressed out all the time, didn't know how
Speaker 5: to really manage my stress. Started picking my hair, lost
Speaker 5: a lot of hair, and then got married tried to
Speaker 5: cover it up, so I got like hair extensions, bleached
Speaker 5: the crap out of my hair. I never had like
Speaker 5: a lot of hair growing up. My mom doesn't either,
Speaker 5: Like genetically, it was just not in the cards for me.
Speaker 5: But so I started kind of working like on my
Speaker 5: own scalps yagram as well. I went into wigs. So
Speaker 5: I wore a wig for a year.
Speaker 1: That was my goal. And the first.
Speaker 5: Actually my first wig was was from La because in
Speaker 5: Dallas they don't have a.
Speaker 3: Lot of good wigs.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, but I was. It got to the point
Speaker 5: where I was like newly married. I looked in the
Speaker 5: mirror just started bawling and I told my husband Jordan,
Speaker 5: I was like, I just don't even want to leave
Speaker 5: the house, like I'm so embarrassed. And and he was like, Okay,
Speaker 5: the Kardashians wear wigs, Like why can't you wear a wig.
Speaker 5: I'm like, well that's different, you know, And he.
Speaker 1: Was like no, it's not.
Speaker 3: Let's go.
Speaker 5: So we jed jumped in the car, went to like
Speaker 5: the first wig place we you know, googled in Dallas
Speaker 5: and like we walked inside, it's like neon pink wigs,
Speaker 5: like sparkly wigs, like like plastic.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I was so like bombed and so this I was like, no,
Speaker 5: this is not it. So long story short. Do you'all
Speaker 5: know jeffree Star Yeah, on YouTube? I used to fall
Speaker 5: on YouTube and he always talked about this.
Speaker 3: The wig shop.
Speaker 5: That's like, yeah, well shure, Okay. So my husband like
Speaker 5: flew me out to la and we went to the
Speaker 5: wig shop and got my first wig. And I didn't
Speaker 5: tell anyone for a month because I just really wanted
Speaker 5: to like figure it out myself, like feel confident in it.
Speaker 5: I didn't tell my audience or anything because it looked
Speaker 5: a lot like my natural hair. And I even went
Speaker 5: on a family vacation to Chicago with Jordan's parents and
Speaker 5: weren't the entire time, and they didn't say anything. Maybe
Speaker 5: they noticed, but they didn't say anything. And so that
Speaker 5: whole year I just really focused on like my overall
Speaker 5: hair health, scalp health, and started making like I was
Speaker 5: like a little chemist like in my in my bathroom,
Speaker 5: started making these scalps rooms to like really just like
Speaker 5: detoxify my scalp from like all the dry shampoo I
Speaker 5: was using because I was trying not to wash it
Speaker 5: as much and all the product build up and things
Speaker 5: like that. And then people on my DMS, you know,
Speaker 5: we're saying, can you please send me some like I'll
Speaker 5: pay you, you know, fifteen dollars to ship it here.
Speaker 5: So that's whenever I went to my husband, I'm like, hey,
Speaker 5: I think we should you know, make this scalp serum
Speaker 5: and send it to some of these girls. There's also
Speaker 5: all clean ingredients, and then there were also some things
Speaker 5: I wanted to put in the scalp serum that it
Speaker 5: just couldn't get my hands on. So we worked with
Speaker 5: a chemist and came out with our first scalp serum,
Speaker 5: and then since then we've launched our hair vitamins, shampoo,
Speaker 5: and conditioner, and it's been really cool because every product
Speaker 5: is just kind of born from like what people want
Speaker 5: more of. So I just kind of listened to them
Speaker 5: and then we have like an amazing chemist and we were,
Speaker 5: you know, just give them what they want.
Speaker 1: It's fun. So the scalp serum isn't necessarily for hair growth.
Speaker 1: It's to like get rid of all the like build
Speaker 1: up and just like all the stuff that we put
Speaker 1: in our.
Speaker 5: Hair, it helps a lot with so it does stimulate
Speaker 5: your scalp. It has a lot of caffeine in it
Speaker 5: that also helps stimulate. It has amino acids and peptides
Speaker 5: that create kind of like a stronger anchoring agent with
Speaker 5: your hair, so it's like less likely to fall out
Speaker 5: when you're putting in hair extensions or brushing hair. So
Speaker 5: a lot of people see great results when it comes
Speaker 5: to you know, maintaining their their hair or hair growth
Speaker 5: or maybe dan drift whatever it is. But I think
Speaker 5: just a lot of those like natural ingredients. It's probably
Speaker 5: the first time that people are actually taking care of
Speaker 5: their scalp. So it's kind of like, you know, the
Speaker 5: first time that you put a moisturizer on, You're gonna
Speaker 5: be like, wow, this feels amazing. So so that was
Speaker 5: that was what was special, was kind of creating like
Speaker 5: a scalp routine for people. Well, yeah, it's been fun.
Speaker 5: I mean it's like a whole no I'm like, I
Speaker 5: had no idea this is going to happen, And I think, dude,
Speaker 5: it's you know, I don't have the most like perfect
Speaker 5: beautiful hair. But I think a lot of people relate
Speaker 5: to that too, because you see a lot of like
Speaker 5: celebrities launching haircare brands and I'm like, okay, but like
Speaker 5: we know she was born with that, you know, and
Speaker 5: I want to know what the girls that have hair
Speaker 5: like me are using. So it's been cool to connect
Speaker 5: to my audience that way.
Speaker 3: That's really that's a really good point.
Speaker 2: Like there's people who will be like, this is what
Speaker 2: I'm using, and you're like, you know, you're jennerfer Anison.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like you've had the hair like that forever exactly.
Speaker 2: But I think it's cool that people like are seeing
Speaker 2: someone who's like you've gone through the.
Speaker 3: Struggle of like all of that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, when did you have the moment of feeling like
Speaker 2: I'm ready to share that this is a wig and
Speaker 2: I'm taking it off and I'm done like trying to
Speaker 2: like cover this up.
Speaker 3: Like what was that moment?
Speaker 5: Like I think you just kind of get sick of
Speaker 5: like feeling like you have to be perfect all the time,
Speaker 5: and you're just like I don't want to do that anymore.
Speaker 5: And if they're not going to accept me for that,
Speaker 5: then like I'd rather just move in a different direction.
Speaker 5: I think it just kind of gets old. And you know,
Speaker 5: I was kind of known as like the wig girl
Speaker 5: for a while, and I didn't mind that because I
Speaker 5: think that once I did start talking about it, there
Speaker 5: are so many women that were going through something similar
Speaker 5: that like they're bawling in their you know, bedrooms, feeling
Speaker 5: the same exact way. And so I'm like, Okay, well,
Speaker 5: if I'm like, if this is where I need to
Speaker 5: be creating you know, wig content instead of sharing my
Speaker 5: outfit for the day, because it's more meaningful and actually
Speaker 5: helps people, then like, that's what I want to do. Yeah,
Speaker 5: even though maybe you know, I felt a little embarrassed
Speaker 5: at first, but it gave me, you know, just more
Speaker 5: purpose with the platform.
Speaker 3: I was gonna ask, like I have.
Speaker 2: What I've experienced is that the things that I feel
Speaker 2: like insecure, nervous, or embarrassed about typically are the things
Speaker 2: where people relate to the most or like feel connected
Speaker 2: because they're like, oh, finally someone's talking about this.
Speaker 1: I didn't know that.
Speaker 2: And then you're like, why was I so fearful about
Speaker 2: being honest and open about this when like.
Speaker 1: Do you have specific examples? I mean, I had so many.
Speaker 1: I wear granny panties every day, and I poop with
Speaker 1: my feet on the toilet seat, just.
Speaker 3: To name a few examples.
Speaker 5: I'm just trying to imagine.
Speaker 3: But oh, hey, I get it, I get it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was like the Acrovac's there.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah that's nice.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean my my big one was probably coming out
Speaker 2: with my relationship with my girlfriend, just like wondering like
Speaker 2: how my audience was going to react and like what
Speaker 2: people would say and expecting the worst, you know, and
Speaker 2: and of course I got negative yeah messages and stuff,
Speaker 2: But I think for the most part, it was kind
Speaker 2: of a reminder to give people the chance to like
Speaker 2: literally show up and also give people a chance to
Speaker 2: be good.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I've always felt like those things where you
Speaker 2: kind of feel like I'm scared, I feel awkward talking
Speaker 2: about this or sharing this. Those are the things where
Speaker 2: people like finally send their first message or do you
Speaker 2: ever get those where it's like I never send dms,
Speaker 2: and well, I have.
Speaker 5: One that you posted. Actually I don't know if I
Speaker 5: dm'd you about it, but I screenshot it because I
Speaker 5: thought it was so sweet. When so I might get
Speaker 5: this wrong, but I think you grew up like in
Speaker 5: a religious household and then your girlfriend took you to church.
Speaker 5: Even I thought that was I really was like here, ihot,
Speaker 5: I showed my husband like this is the sweetest thing ever. Yeah,
Speaker 5: but I'm sure you got a lot of like feedback
Speaker 5: from that too.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I think it's just one of those things.
Speaker 2: Especially religion, I think is a very It's such a
Speaker 2: sacred thing that people are connected to and that's so
Speaker 2: important to people that I think sometimes those conversations are
Speaker 2: hard and just being able to say like I don't
Speaker 2: know exactly, like i don't know what I was taught,
Speaker 2: but I'm figuring it out.
Speaker 3: I'm living my life. I'm trying to figure it out.
Speaker 2: And sometimes I think so many people are going through
Speaker 2: that and they don't have a concrete answer, because isn't
Speaker 2: that faith, Like just you don't have a concrete answer. Yeah, sure,
Speaker 2: And I think even talking about that sometimes it's really scary.
Speaker 2: But then people are like I'm going through the same
Speaker 2: thing or I'm navigating this, like thanks for talking about it,
Speaker 2: and it's like, oh, I've been so scared, feeling like
Speaker 2: I wouldn't have anyone that relates to it. So I
Speaker 2: didn't want to share it, and it's the complete opposite.
Speaker 5: I'm like getting chills over here because I on my
Speaker 5: podcast like two weeks ago, same thing where I've just
Speaker 5: been feeling, especially with my faith, like I don't know
Speaker 5: just the way that sometimes people use like oh I
Speaker 5: felt like God spoke to me, or I felt like
Speaker 5: God led me in this way, or you know, God
Speaker 5: gave me a word. And I've just been kind of
Speaker 5: confused on like what, like, was that just coincidence? Was
Speaker 5: it actually something that you heard?
Speaker 3: Was it?
Speaker 5: And it's just something that I've been able to talk about.
Speaker 5: And I was scared that people were going to be
Speaker 5: upset that I wasn't like one hundred percent confident like
Speaker 5: on that. But I a ton of people DM me
Speaker 5: saying that they struggle with the same thing. Yeah, and
Speaker 5: we're just figuring it out, Like I don't know the
Speaker 5: answer just yet, but I mean it's something that we're
Speaker 5: like we're all praying through together, we're all figuring out together.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: No, it's true. I think more people with social media.
Speaker 2: I think there was a time, especially when you started,
Speaker 2: where it was all about like looking and presenting perfect.
Speaker 2: Everything was esthetically pleasing. All the photos were edited to perfection,
Speaker 2: and we've kind of taken this turn I think with TikTok,
Speaker 2: where it's not doesn't need to be perfect all the time.
Speaker 1: Well, I think two people with faith in particular, it's
Speaker 1: very it's a very touchy subject and I feel like
Speaker 1: everyone has like their opinion and it's just everybody wills.
Speaker 1: Some people just want to be mad about something, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Like I've gotten so many dms
Speaker 1: of like how are you a woman of faith? But
Speaker 1: you believe in the zodiac? And I'm like, cause it's fun,
Speaker 1: like silly, Like it's not like I'm praying to the
Speaker 1: zodiac gods like.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean like they're just projecting yeah on you,
Speaker 5: And like how are you supposed to know if we
Speaker 5: don't actually meet and have a conversation, And like there's
Speaker 5: just a lot of assumptions when it comes to religion.
Speaker 5: I get it all the time to like I'll say
Speaker 5: one word and they're like but I'm like, wait, I
Speaker 5: didn't ever say that. Yeah, So it's crazy. But it
Speaker 5: is a very touchy subject subject. But I think like
Speaker 5: being like real about where you're at instead of My
Speaker 5: biggest thing is like on social media, like are you
Speaker 5: ever going to actually convince someone to sway their opinion
Speaker 5: from like arguing them with them on a comment? Like
Speaker 5: someone comments to me, I'm like, oh, you're right, let
Speaker 5: me just switch everything. I think like it's never going
Speaker 5: to happen. And so I feel like if you're going
Speaker 5: to talk about it, like it's okay to be real
Speaker 5: about it and not know like you were saying and
Speaker 5: just be real. And and I think a lot of
Speaker 5: people just want to come from judgment, maybe because it
Speaker 5: makes them feel like they're in the right place, you know, Yeah,
Speaker 5: but it's just doing more damage.
Speaker 3: It's it's sad.
Speaker 2: Something that really impacted me is when someone said that
Speaker 2: I don't know is an answer, And I think people
Speaker 2: forget they need like yes or no, they need to
Speaker 2: be sure certain about something, and sometimes especially when it
Speaker 2: comes to those that area of like faith, I don't
Speaker 2: know is an answer because it's just faith.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so sure. I wanted to look quick little sidebar
Speaker 1: because I I there's so much you're doing so much?
Speaker 1: Do you are all your days? Like are you you
Speaker 1: said no you don't like this struck sure, but like
Speaker 1: do you have a specific day to day how long
Speaker 1: do you spend doing everything? Like how do you I'm
Speaker 1: just fascinated by people's like a day in the life,
Speaker 1: because how do you do it?
Speaker 5: All?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 5: So I have on Monday morning, we have like our
Speaker 5: Monday morning meeting, and that's whenever we talk about everything
Speaker 5: that's going on in the week, so you know what
Speaker 5: brands that we're working with, different meetings that we have,
Speaker 5: so that way we kind of get like an overall
Speaker 5: feel for the week.
Speaker 1: We my team.
Speaker 5: Oh so my team comes to my house and we
Speaker 5: have about how many people is it?
Speaker 1: Four people on my team?
Speaker 3: Are five?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Like four people like one contractor that comes over pretty
Speaker 5: often and so they come over and we have like
Speaker 5: a girl that does all the brands deal. So I
Speaker 5: don't have like a management company. That's something that's kind
Speaker 5: of unique about what we do. I haven't had one
Speaker 5: for like nine years, and I just decided to build
Speaker 5: it like all in house. So I basically like hired
Speaker 5: people and just train them. And I don't know why
Speaker 5: I do that now, I feel like, I mean, honestly,
Speaker 5: it's because I have a strong connection with my team.
Speaker 5: But it's a lot of work and so but I've
Speaker 5: just enjoyed it because I feel like you're it's more
Speaker 5: personal whenever I'm working with brands and working with my team.
Speaker 5: So we have someone that does that. We have someone
Speaker 5: that's helping with like brand, which is overall like where
Speaker 5: are we going, what are we planning in the future,
Speaker 5: what events are planning. We have someone that helps with
Speaker 5: like our editing. We have someone that helps with LTK
Speaker 5: or you on LTK, I mean I try to do.
Speaker 3: It's a lot.
Speaker 1: I have shot my shot my. It's like the same.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's like LTK, but a different version of it.
Speaker 1: Shop it's called shot Mine.
Speaker 5: I've heard a shot mine. Oh really, I've heard a
Speaker 5: shop style. Yeah, shot mine might check it out. Well,
Speaker 5: I might check out you. So, so for those of
Speaker 5: y'all that don't know, LTK is like an affiliate affiliates,
Speaker 5: and so they come over. We plan out the entire week.
Speaker 5: About twice a week for an hour an hour and
Speaker 5: a half, we have admin time where Nikki, who does
Speaker 5: all of my brand brand deals, will sit down and
Speaker 5: like she'll she'll present them all to me. So we
Speaker 5: get to pick exactly like what we want to do,
Speaker 5: what we don't want to do, and then everything in
Speaker 5: between that like they'll be they work upstairs like two
Speaker 5: or three days a week, but those two days a
Speaker 5: week where like no one's in the house, Like that's
Speaker 5: whenever I go ham, I'm like, I get to do
Speaker 5: whatever I want, you know, I get to like prank
Speaker 5: my husband. I get to just hang out with my kids.
Speaker 5: So there's a lot of flexibility, but there is structure. Yeah,
Speaker 5: what does your day look like? Didn't you film like
Speaker 5: three three episodes or three chill shows? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, what time did you start? I get up at
Speaker 1: like four and then I make I'm back on coffee,
Speaker 1: which is nice, So make my coffee at home in
Speaker 1: I have like two breakfasts, but they're like half breakfasts,
Speaker 1: so I eat space them out, and then around three
Speaker 1: clock I kind of hit a wall. And that's when
Speaker 1: I'm like zoned out.
Speaker 5: So when you go to bed.
Speaker 1: Uh, in a perfect world, I go down at eight.
Speaker 3: We put her down at eight.
Speaker 1: I like to go down at eight, And I'd love
Speaker 1: to be a sleep by eight forty five. Man, that's amazing,
Speaker 1: But it doesn't happen most nights. Most nights it's like ten.
Speaker 5: So when is social time on the weekends? Yeah, or
Speaker 5: with your work people. Yeah, and you film every day,
Speaker 5: you record every day. Yeah, two shows every day.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, but it's different. So like on Monday, on Mondays,
Speaker 1: I do the podcast. So it's like that's a little
Speaker 1: bit of a heavier day, not necessarily on Fridays. Fridays
Speaker 1: are like chiller, you know what I mean. So it
Speaker 1: kind of all balances out, and I, yeah, it all
Speaker 1: balances out. I feel frantic for a couple of days,
Speaker 1: and then I'm like, chill.
Speaker 5: You know what I want to know the most for
Speaker 5: people like you and honestly like the toast. So what
Speaker 5: I find so fascinating is you do your job so well,
Speaker 5: but then after you do this, you leave all of this,
Speaker 5: you still have to go live life to have something
Speaker 5: to talk about the next day.
Speaker 1: Oh, I see what you're saying, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5: Like Claudia's like she does so much in a day,
Speaker 5: Like every day is like a new I'm like, how
Speaker 5: do you have so many crazy stories?
Speaker 3: Do you feel that? Yeah? She stays busy, Claudia.
Speaker 1: They're always doing, they're always going out, She's always out.
Speaker 1: You know what's so funny is like you find the
Speaker 1: stories in the stuff that you do. So like at
Speaker 1: my workout classes, I find like I've been like you know,
Speaker 1: I make friends there and I hear stories there, and
Speaker 1: like you kind of just like find it in your
Speaker 1: everyday life, you know what I mean, Like the stuff
Speaker 1: that you do with like your friends and your family,
Speaker 1: Like it's kind of all in there. It's not like
Speaker 1: going to the clubs, like I don't like coming back
Speaker 1: and like sharing my story. It's just like all in that,
Speaker 1: you know. Or you're like going to a dinner party.
Speaker 1: You go to dinner. I've been talking about dinner party
Speaker 1: so much lately, and like I don't think I've been
Speaker 1: to a dinner party and forever, I guess I've just
Speaker 1: been like social gathering. Yeah, people are talking about a
Speaker 1: new show, so then you like check out the new
Speaker 1: show and like all that kind of stuff, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean.
Speaker 5: Yeah, today I'm like today I changed a blowout, and
Speaker 5: then my dog people on the ground, and then I'm.
Speaker 3: Like this is my name.
Speaker 5: But I guess for some people that's reliable.
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 3: Yeah, what do your days look like like in La?
Speaker 3: What do you have planned? What are you doing here?
Speaker 5: So we're staying at the one so last night we
Speaker 5: walked to dough Bricksha.
Speaker 3: It's actually so good. You'll have to try. I love pizza.
Speaker 5: If you love pizza, the spicy vodka is amazing. I
Speaker 5: thought it was just all hype, Like I thought, just
Speaker 5: people love David dough Brick. Actually amazing pizza. So we
Speaker 5: did that. And then so since we're here, we reached
Speaker 5: out to like a lot of brands that we work with,
Speaker 5: and we're gonna be you know, meeting up with Rare Beauty,
Speaker 5: Merit Beauty. I'm filming a podcast with the girl who
Speaker 5: started Dulce Glow. She's sprays hands Like every single celebrity
Speaker 5: under the sun, somebody hear her story. So just like
Speaker 5: we reach out to people that we haven't you know,
Speaker 5: that we just dm with try to make something like,
Speaker 5: you know, out of it. But I don't know, do
Speaker 5: you all have any recommendations of where we should go this?
Speaker 5: This Texas girl doesn't really know.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, we're probably the two most boring people
Speaker 3: to ask.
Speaker 1: No Ililah for sure. What's that fun? Yeah, it's like
Speaker 1: a fun like I'm gonna say club.
Speaker 3: It's not like Burlesqui, but it's a restaurant.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a restaurant, like you go for dinner. I
Speaker 1: like to be entertained while I eat.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's so it's yummy food. It's like it's like
Speaker 3: Southern food, but like elevated.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you're mine the South. Jay Z and Beyonce have
Speaker 5: gone there. Oh then I have, Yeah, I just must.
Speaker 1: Yeah you're from Sreport.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm from Streeport, just down the street across from you.
Speaker 5: So far like a couple of hours.
Speaker 2: No, Like if we needed to shop for like prom
Speaker 2: or something, we went to Dallas, So that was like, Yeah.
Speaker 5: Is your family still there?
Speaker 2: No, I have like extended family in that area, but
Speaker 2: I have my older sister lives in Baton Rouge, and
Speaker 2: then my other family lives in Florida. We're all kind
Speaker 2: of spread out.
Speaker 5: So what do you miss about Streatport And like, what
Speaker 5: do you feel like what is the difference between La
Speaker 5: and Strept. Obviously it's it's a huge friends, But what
Speaker 5: do you miss about it or do you miss anything?
Speaker 3: H I miss some of my favorite restaurants.
Speaker 2: You know. My best friend from high school still lives there,
Speaker 2: so she like when I go visit, you know. And
Speaker 2: then I obviously have family there, but I don't really
Speaker 2: miss much. I don't have like a lot of attachment
Speaker 2: to my hometown, which kind of.
Speaker 1: Sid you're never leaving here, But.
Speaker 2: Like when I go back, I'm not like, oh, I
Speaker 2: can't wait to come back here one day, you know.
Speaker 2: But there are certain things elements about the South that
Speaker 2: I missed, and as a generalized you know, the food
Speaker 2: and some of the things.
Speaker 3: But I love it out here. I don't really So.
Speaker 5: You think you'll stay here?
Speaker 1: Are you saying in Dallas?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 1: Sorry?
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah, no, no, no, no, yeah, I miss her answers, Yes,
Speaker 5: she's staying here.
Speaker 3: I'll be here for the foreseeable future.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: She tried to move to Nashville a couple of years ago,
Speaker 1: and that did not go over well with me.
Speaker 2: Oh I tried to move. I mentioned I could live
Speaker 2: there one day. You're like, that's it extent of me
Speaker 2: trying to move there?
Speaker 4: Front door, Like, you're not going where she would. I
Speaker 4: love Nashville though, Yeah, it's fun. That's probably where I
Speaker 4: would live if I didn't live in Dallas. I don't, okay,
Speaker 4: I don't love Dallas, and I'm sorry to all my
Speaker 4: Dallas people.
Speaker 5: I love the people in Dallas. I grew up in Dallas.
Speaker 5: My parents are there, but it's just there's not a
Speaker 5: lot to do. Like I come here and you can
Speaker 5: hike and can be outdoors and the weather's amazing. Dallas.
Speaker 5: It's like you shop and eat and drink and that's
Speaker 5: about it. Yeah, but I mean I love doing those
Speaker 5: things too, but you kind of it gets old.
Speaker 1: So we're here here. Yeah, what's the future for you? Like,
Speaker 1: what does the future look like?
Speaker 5: Like?
Speaker 1: Do you want more products?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I want to definitely. We have a lot of
Speaker 5: products in the pipeline for Divvy, which we're really excited
Speaker 5: about where in Alta we'll be launching in like all
Speaker 5: stores pretty soon. And then uh, for as far as,
Speaker 5: like you know, our channels go, honestly, we'll just be
Speaker 5: doing like a lot of the giveaways that we're still doing.
Speaker 5: I want to host some more TV shows or you know,
Speaker 5: TV show inspired content, and I don't know. Then maybe
Speaker 5: I'll move to Nashville one day.
Speaker 3: It goes the options are endless. More kids?
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, that too, Okay, but not not anytime soon.
Speaker 1: I need a breather.
Speaker 5: Yeah, postpartum is not my jam.
Speaker 1: For both of your pregnancies, it was, Yeah, so very,
Speaker 1: very tough for both of them.
Speaker 5: I had never like taken a medication in my life,
Speaker 5: and then I was like, hit me up with anything.
Speaker 5: It got like it was really really tough, but it
Speaker 5: gets better. I have a friend that just had a baby,
Speaker 5: and she's like, it's like textbook. I'm like, dude, it happens.
Speaker 5: It's so common. It's like just stick it out. But yeah,
Speaker 5: your hormones are just wild.
Speaker 2: We had a guess Rachel Platten came on and she
Speaker 2: was telling her story about how it was horrible experience
Speaker 2: for her and and just like how finally being able
Speaker 2: to reach a point of being like I need help.
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 5: And I think that the hardest part for me was
Speaker 5: I had never dealt with anything like this before. So
Speaker 5: at first, you know, I had mystitis. I was feeling
Speaker 5: like really sick, ill, like feverish. So I just kept
Speaker 5: blaming like wanting to sleep, you know, fourteen hours, fifteen
Speaker 5: hours and stay in bed like all day on that.
Speaker 5: And you know, I just had a baby, and physically
Speaker 5: you're supposed to be within three months went by, and
Speaker 5: four months went by, and I had very physical symptoms
Speaker 5: like migraines.
Speaker 1: I was like very sensitive.
Speaker 5: To light, so like I would wake up and I
Speaker 5: like couldn't even open my eyes. And then to be honest,
Speaker 5: like I just started having really negative thoughts where I
Speaker 5: was like, man, I just like my my husband, like
Speaker 5: I'm just so much work for him on top of
Speaker 5: the baby, or like they'd probably be better off just like
Speaker 5: if I, like you know, moved, And it was just
Speaker 5: very it was very dark. And so whenever I started
Speaker 5: sharing those thoughts with my husband, he was like, this
Speaker 5: is not normal. I feel like we should talk to
Speaker 5: a doctor. But when you're in it, you don't think that,
Speaker 5: you don't think that there's anything like you just feel
Speaker 5: like this is like your new normal. Yeah, and so yeah,
Speaker 5: it was really sweet that my husban and took it
Speaker 5: pretty because I would never have even had the energy
Speaker 5: to make that appointment, to be honest, like I couldn't
Speaker 5: even I couldn't have done that.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I know, sometimes you just need someone to like be
Speaker 2: like I want to help you, and I'm gonna step
Speaker 2: in where I can.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but you can't if you don't share it with people, right, Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so that's important.
Speaker 2: I feel like you are a force in this world,
Speaker 2: and I really appreciate you taking the time to be
Speaker 2: on the podcast because I feel like you. When I
Speaker 2: have conversations with people about like the influencing space, they're like,
Speaker 2: Danny Austin, Danny Austin, Oh.
Speaker 1: My gosh, my friend Ashley is obsessed with you. Like literally,
Speaker 1: she takes me today. She's like, I cannot believe that
Speaker 1: Danny's gonna be on your podcast. I am obsessed with her.
Speaker 1: She like, I can't remember exactly what she said Verbandon,
Speaker 1: but she was like she could just be so like
Speaker 1: chill with her stuff, and she always outdoes herself, like
Speaker 1: she's always talking abou how you're always outdoing yourself.
Speaker 5: That's so sweet. My jaws to the floor because I'm
Speaker 5: not gonna lie.
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm all in.
Speaker 5: They don't know who I.
Speaker 3: Am, Like.
Speaker 5: They have no idea who, just like, you know, your
Speaker 5: producer probably reached out because maybe one video she saw
Speaker 5: so that makes me feel better.
Speaker 1: Told me this before. No, no, no, we're very excited.
Speaker 3: Like when we have guests on were we make sure
Speaker 3: that we know as.
Speaker 1: I don't just like have guests that we don't know
Speaker 1: or don't want.
Speaker 3: We did in the past, not that we don't want
Speaker 3: but that we didn't know. Yeah, we've had a couple
Speaker 3: just like years ago.
Speaker 2: Years ago, I don't have genuine interest in someone. It
Speaker 2: makes it hard to have a genuine conversation, you know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. So I think that we definitely know
Speaker 2: who you are into today.
Speaker 5: I'm going to carry that for everything.
Speaker 1: Would you like me to read the text messages? Just
Speaker 1: like make you feel so much like.
Speaker 3: I was.
Speaker 2: I actually there was a friend of mine and he
Speaker 2: was working with like different brands stuff, and he was like,
Speaker 2: you know who you need to talk to, Like you
Speaker 2: just need to sit down with Danny Austin. He was like,
Speaker 2: I don't know anyone who who like converts like she does,
Speaker 2: Like she's incredible and how she like.
Speaker 1: So Danny Austin notes, page mind you stop it right yeah?
Speaker 1: And then she just texts me and goes, are you
Speaker 1: with Queen Danny yet? Tell her she dropped this and
Speaker 1: she put the crown emoji stop it because.
Speaker 5: Y'all have to understand, like I'm coming from Texas, like
Speaker 5: y'all are the big dogs, y'all are queens.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I got my hairt out this morning.
Speaker 3: Well that's great, kind of curled. My gosh, but thanks.
Speaker 2: I know that, like coming out to l A and
Speaker 2: having a busy schedule is a lot while you're on
Speaker 2: top of.
Speaker 3: Everything else you're doing. So thanks for taking the time
Speaker 3: to scrub in with.
Speaker 5: Nikey for having me. This is like a dream come true.
Speaker 5: You don't even know.
Speaker 3: And if people don't already, where can they follow you?
Speaker 1: On all the rain they get divvy Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5: So Divivioficial dot com and then Danny Austen on Instagram.
Speaker 5: If you pretty much Google you can find all the things.
Speaker 5: But yeah, thank you guys so much, truly. What about
Speaker 5: your podcast? We didn't even get into the podcast on
Speaker 5: the podcast we're on season two. It's called de Influenced,
Speaker 5: where I kind of just wanted to like de influence,
Speaker 5: like influencing and just kind of be real about live.
Speaker 5: But that's on Spotify, Apple, all the places you can
Speaker 5: find podcasts.
Speaker 3: Okay, perfect season two.
Speaker 1: That's so interesting. So what's like a season?
Speaker 5: I don't know, So to be honest, the first season,
Speaker 5: I just wanted to do seven or eight episodes to
Speaker 5: see if I even liked it. Oh okay, well it's
Speaker 5: you know, so I wanted to have a cut off.
Speaker 5: That way, I didn't seem like a failure if I
Speaker 5: just like quit in the medal and then I did
Speaker 5: my seven or eight episodes and so like I liked it.
Speaker 5: So we came back for season two. And that's whenever
Speaker 5: we brought in some people to interview, got it.
Speaker 3: That's really smart.
Speaker 2: You're just like you're like, I don't I'm not really
Speaker 2: having a good time, and you go away forever.
Speaker 3: They're like, oh where'd you go?
Speaker 5: Yeah, like it comes to a net and then whenever
Speaker 5: you you end, you can take a break.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 5: I took like three or four weeks off and then came.
Speaker 3: Back season We have no we are never.
Speaker 1: You go a year round. We are a never ending season. Correct, Yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: we are three sixty five.
Speaker 2: Yeah, our seasons are a year long. And then they
Speaker 2: continued the following year.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Gray's Anatomy.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Can I ask you a question?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Have y'all ever fought before you had to film a podcast?
Speaker 2: I don't think we've We've definitely had, I mean very rarely,
Speaker 2: but where we've had like a uncomfortable vibe.
Speaker 1: Vibe it started and it was like, yeah, not cozy.
Speaker 3: The most were kind of just like I didn't want
Speaker 3: to look at each other that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but like honestly, I'd say less than a handful
Speaker 1: of times.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: And for this, we are coming up on our six
Speaker 2: years and I can say, like genuinely it hasn't happened
Speaker 2: as much as one would think.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like we do it every single week together. Wow.
Speaker 5: See I sometimes I do with my husband.
Speaker 3: I do with my girlfriend. That's a different conversation.
Speaker 1: I actually think about that, Like I'm like if I
Speaker 1: because I've had my boyfriend Phil and Rebecca like once
Speaker 1: on the podcast, and I envisioned like working with him
Speaker 1: at some point in my life, and I'm like, I
Speaker 1: wonder what we would be like working together.
Speaker 3: When Haley did.
Speaker 2: Hailey was on our podcast last year right after we
Speaker 2: kind of went public with our relationship, and right before
Speaker 2: we were in San Francisco and we had gotten breakfast
Speaker 2: and we were running late to record, and I was
Speaker 2: so mad because it was like she had wanted to
Speaker 2: go to the spot and I was like, we don't
Speaker 2: have time until we got into this like bickering argument
Speaker 2: and then we had to sit down and start talking
Speaker 2: about how much we like met and loved each other,
Speaker 2: which like by the time we started talking about it,
Speaker 2: we had both like calmed down.
Speaker 3: And it was like, oh, yeah, we love each other.
Speaker 2: But yeah, there was that moment of like, I can't
Speaker 2: believe we're about tough to go.
Speaker 5: And that happened literally last week for our podcast. My
Speaker 5: husband had cut me off five times, Like I counted
Speaker 5: in my head. I was like one, two, and I
Speaker 5: was like, oh, let me start another conversation and see
Speaker 5: you feel it. And I got to five and I
Speaker 5: lost it and I was like, you know, you've cut
Speaker 5: me off, you know, and we on the podcast we
Speaker 5: were like bickering and we kept it in there.
Speaker 1: My gosh.
Speaker 5: So yeah, sometimes you kind of just had to keep
Speaker 5: it real because I'm like, I can't fake this, like
Speaker 5: I'm I'm frustrated and I can't act like I'm not,
Speaker 5: so let's just keep it in here.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, to be honest, if the cutoffs happened while
Speaker 2: it was being recorded, yeah.
Speaker 5: Oh no, it was right before we started. But still
Speaker 5: it was so annoyed, you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, there's a lot before we start. I
Speaker 3: just need to point out that's something that happened. Yeah.
Speaker 5: I was like, just so y'all know, we were kind
Speaker 5: of bickering, but we're good. Now we're going to work
Speaker 5: through it on.
Speaker 2: This podcast, so you know, yeah, little therapy session for
Speaker 2: everyone to hear.
Speaker 1: I'm actually proud that we've had like very little and
Speaker 1: everybody always asked me, like, what's it like working with
Speaker 1: your best friend, Like, I'm I want to get into
Speaker 1: a business with my best friend, and I'm scared because
Speaker 1: we have different like working styles, and I'm like, it
Speaker 1: works it Honestly, we've gotten into like very minimal disagreements.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like because I didn't answer her FaceTime or something.
Speaker 1: Yeah, which is annoying.
Speaker 5: Wait, I just realized, Oh, y'all have headphones on too.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I just realized I was probably like.
Speaker 5: The only dummy in the room with the headphones.
Speaker 3: No, you got them.
Speaker 5: We're gosh, but I've never forgiven myself.
Speaker 3: Thank you again for being here. I hope you have
Speaker 3: a wonderful time in l A and enjoy your trip.
Speaker 5: Are so sweet.