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Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast

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Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: It's another episode of the almost Famous podcast.

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Speaker 3: We are here.

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Speaker 2: The off season is ticking down closer and closer if

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Speaker 2: you haven't listened yet. We had an incredible episode with

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Speaker 2: Jojo and Jordan that was shared last week. It was

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Speaker 2: the first time I'd spoken to Jojo in seven years.

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Speaker 2: It was it was great. I felt like we touched

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Speaker 2: on everything that I would want to touch on, and

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Speaker 2: there were actually things actually that I wanted to talk

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Speaker 2: to her about and I and I'm glad we got

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Speaker 2: to do on the podcast.

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Speaker 4: I'm glad you did too. I've read some messages about

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Speaker 4: the podcast and one that came up a few times

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Speaker 4: was that you guys will seemingly forgot about the episode

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Speaker 4: of your show with Lauren was called Happily ever After

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Speaker 4: where you sat down for a meal with Jojo and Jordan.

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Speaker 5: Why did you both quote forget that? Well, I don't

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Speaker 5: think we forgot it. It's forgettable, meaning it never It

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Speaker 5: wasn't anything. It was so fresh after the show. We

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Speaker 5: didn't really talk about anything, and.

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Speaker 2: Cameras are all around us, so we never really got

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Speaker 2: to dive in like I felt like the podcast was

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Speaker 2: the first time we actually got to authentically dive into Hey,

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Speaker 2: how did that make you feel?

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Speaker 3: Were you? Were you angry with me? Was I angry

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Speaker 3: with you?

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Speaker 1: Like?

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Speaker 2: Those things didn't happen on the show because one it

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Speaker 2: was so fresh. Two it wasn't really why we were there.

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Speaker 2: We were kind of there for this, like, hey, we're

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Speaker 2: all good, we're moving on, and it wasn't true.

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Speaker 6: You know, it wasn't real.

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Speaker 3: It wasn't real.

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Speaker 2: It was It was still very painful, especially for Lauren,

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Speaker 2: and it was awkward for me. I don't know how

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Speaker 2: Jordan and Jojo felt, but no, we didn't forget about it.

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Speaker 2: It just this is the first real I guess maybe

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Speaker 2: the better way to say it was, this is the

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Speaker 2: first real conversation we have had since that sit down lunch.

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Speaker 4: Did you guys talk at all off camera or was

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Speaker 4: it mostly all camera?

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Speaker 2: It was all camera. It was actually I'm telling you,

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Speaker 2: it was one of those moments. I mean, this is

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Speaker 2: only a few months after her time on the Bachelorette.

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Speaker 3: It was one of those moments where it's.

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Speaker 2: Like, I don't think this is healthy, this isn't true,

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Speaker 2: Like I'm glad that she's you know, like we're gonna

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Speaker 2: see her happy. I'm glad you see us happy. That's

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Speaker 2: all great, But there wasn't like a moment for healing

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Speaker 2: because it was still so real, it was still so fresh.

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Speaker 2: We hadn't we hadn't moved on. None of us had

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Speaker 2: like fully to where we're like, okay, our lives are

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Speaker 2: now settled, let's get back together again to.

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Speaker 3: Talk about this. And there was no talking off camera.

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Speaker 3: It was very awkward.

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Speaker 2: I would say, like when the cameras were down, it

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Speaker 3: You go do your thing. We're not like chit chatting.

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Speaker 4: Do you want to talk a little bit about how

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Speaker 4: Happily ever After? Was very self scripted and it made

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Speaker 4: you feel a bit uncomfortable filming.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I can.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 2: It was It was an interesting season in my life

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Speaker 2: And the show came and said, hey, how about you

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Speaker 2: run for office? And I said that sounds great, and

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Speaker 2: we set it all up and we filmed for six

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Speaker 2: weeks and I campaigned and then you know, the Republican

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Speaker 2: You know, if you remember twenty sixteen, it was a

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Speaker 2: it was a really transitional time for the party and

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Speaker 3: This is personal.

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Speaker 2: I don't really have a try like a tribe when

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Speaker 3: And then this show said, well, we still have a show.

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Speaker 3: What do you guys want to do?

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Speaker 2: And we said, well, I don't know, and they said,

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Speaker 6: So they film stuff and then they scrapped it.

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Speaker 3: You know, originally the plan was a question mark.

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Speaker 2: It was critical, and it kind of they definitely made

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Speaker 2: I mean, it was a seven am start, seven pm

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Speaker 2: it doesn't feel like we are on the same page,

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Speaker 2: and it over time. I mean, I'm very weird to

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Speaker 2: say now, I'm very thankful for that show because I

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Speaker 2: do think it highlighted for both of us what we

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Speaker 2: in a partner. And I think that show showed us, hey,

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Speaker 2: and I don't I mean, I think we would have

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Speaker 2: But it was, you know, very it was just, you know,

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Speaker 2: Blamed for having cold feet. Neither of us will wanted

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Speaker 3: We're not actors and actresses.

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Speaker 4: During the Jojo interview, you said that Jess was at work,

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Speaker 6: You know, it was not a big deal.

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Speaker 4: You never thought that like jess would care at all

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Speaker 3: A little bit.

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Speaker 2: You know, she, like I said to during the interview,

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Speaker 2: But I didn't want her, you know, her mom, because

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Speaker 2: So I just said, hey, I got to interview Jojoe today,

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Speaker 2: got to talk about that. Jessica hasn't been very inquisitive

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Speaker 2: And I mean it when I say that. Jessica and

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Speaker 2: some amazing people that I've dated, some incredible humans, and

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Speaker 2: You know, those are those and so that kind of

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Speaker 2: so happy for you. You were such a great person

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Speaker 2: a golf We're going to go. I meant it when

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Speaker 2: I said we're going to golf, We're gonna hang out.

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Speaker 2: I think he's awesome and I would love to do that.

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Speaker 3: It just as you know. Friends.

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Speaker 2: So really glad that interview happened, Really happy about it,

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Speaker 2: and I think only good can come from it, including

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Speaker 6: Normal behavior for you, not fair to me.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he was trying to get my attention.

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Speaker 2: I have a theory that if I talk to my

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Speaker 6: I love that.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if it's true yet, but we're working

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Speaker 6: All right, let's get to headlines.

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Speaker 3: Here we go.

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Speaker 2: First headline is this, did Bachelor in Paradise's Brandon Jones

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Speaker 2: Yahoo goodness gracious, Um, I hope not.

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Speaker 4: Okay, So we all know that Brandon and Serene broke

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Speaker 2: Well, I would say I would believe that same thing.

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Speaker 3: I hope not.

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Speaker 2: This is a This was a weird one to have

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Speaker 2: But you know, we don't want to start a rumor here.

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Speaker 4: I can also just say that, like, I have seed

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Speaker 4: So I wouldn't have been surprised if they were actually

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Speaker 6: I know that it was coming.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, the next headline is this. People have been

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Speaker 2: to give it to you. The Bachelor star Deanna Pappis

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Speaker 2: settles custody battle. This according to Yaho as well.

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Speaker 4: All right, well, we wouldn't talk about these dirty beats

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Speaker 4: So their custody agreement says that the parent having the

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Speaker 4: and also says that neither party parents shall drink and

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Speaker 2: Now, is this not just to be clear, I wonder

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Speaker 6: Yah, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I would assume that this is an agreement.

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Speaker 2: That is, it's pretty typical, typical when it comes to

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Goes on to say that neither party shall operate or

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Speaker 3: Doesn't that make sense? I mean, yes, this is all sense.

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Speaker 2: This is not like, yeah, shocking, and there's not like

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Speaker 6: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: You got guys, let us know about custody battles, and

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Speaker 4: this is typical.

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Speaker 3: But I would imagine this is in every agreement that happens.

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Speaker 4: This is also interesting, and I don't know that this

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Speaker 3: I don't know if that's typically either.

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Speaker 2: It's kind of interesting to hear what you know two

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Speaker 2: So that's interesting. But yeah, I don't think this is

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Speaker 6: I'm assuming.

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Speaker 4: I mean, also, this is like some of the times

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Speaker 6: Sure anyway, moving on.

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Speaker 3: That's the agreement.

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Speaker 4: No. I was thinking, I was thinking that's what the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, next headline is this Wills Adams shares hilarious update

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Speaker 6: It's actually quite hilarious.

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Speaker 4: So he says that there are just a bunch of

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Speaker 4: what they're talking about. This is his rundown from day two.

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Speaker 6: The vibes are off, I don't know what.

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Speaker 4: There are also a lot of keys being thrown around

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Speaker 4: I don't know what the f you're talking about. And

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Speaker 4: I also just learned about what a beige flag is

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Speaker 2: So my beige flag would just be hey, he's he

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Speaker 2: is in his own head often.

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Speaker 3: Okay, does that make sense?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Is that a beige flag or is that like a

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Speaker 3: red flag?

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Speaker 4: Well, that's definitely not a red flag. I think that's

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Speaker 4: being human. I think that's the hard thing about beige flags,

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Speaker 4: well gen ziers and they're beige flags, you know, is

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Speaker 4: that you just like, don't really they're just not that concerning.

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Speaker 4: So why are we calling it a flag in any

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Speaker 4: in any way? Why don't we just call it like, Oh,

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Speaker 4: that's quirky. Oh that's a nice quirk of you. Oh,

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Speaker 4: it's an interesting element of your personality.

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Speaker 3: I'm getting cool, getting old.

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Speaker 2: Hey, uh, next update is this Bachelor in Paradise is

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Speaker 2: Raven Gates and Adam had You know, Raven is pregnant

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Speaker 2: and they soaked up the Italian sun on baby moon.

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Speaker 2: Baby moons are becoming more and more popular. I never

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Speaker 2: knew about him until, you know, people started doing them

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Speaker 2: and I started seeing social media.

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Speaker 3: But they said they had a great trip. They ten

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Speaker 3: out of ten would recommend I.

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Speaker 4: Would like to do a baby moon before getting pregnant,

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Speaker 4: because one, you're pregnant, I just yeah, now not feeling

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Speaker 4: my most beautiful and vacationing. But these two look just

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Speaker 4: like they're just the freaking cutest. They went to Rome

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Speaker 4: and Florence and then they went to Like Como and

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Speaker 4: Adam said some interesting things about this trip. One he

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Speaker 4: said that they'd like to do one big trip just

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Speaker 4: the two of them each year to connect as a couple,

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Speaker 4: which I think is great advice. Then he also said

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Speaker 4: that they had a travel agent do this plan it

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Speaker 4: for them. He said, They've done this many times more

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Speaker 4: than you have. He also suggested getting good mileage credit

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Speaker 4: a good mileage credit card to rack up the miles,

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Speaker 4: of course, to help with travel deals and other things

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Speaker 4: that they did. They they chartered a boat for the day.

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Speaker 4: They had the best pizza. They said that Like Como

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Speaker 4: was pretty much like the most low key relaxing of

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Speaker 4: the places that they went.

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Speaker 6: They also went to the coll.

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Speaker 2: Sum That sounds awesome. I'm going to Italy in September.

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Speaker 2: Super Pump Okay next headline Bachelor star Matt James Mom

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Speaker 2: is in talks to appear on spinoff for seniors, The

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Speaker 2: Golden Bachelor. Ashley never really thought about this, should be

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Speaker 2: incredible on it. I also have a follow up question

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Speaker 2: for you. Do we know if Matt James and Rachel

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Speaker 2: are still together.

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Speaker 4: Okay, so according to my my deductions, my stocking abilities,

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Speaker 4: it seems like they are still together because they seemed

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Speaker 4: to have actually been in the same place this week

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Speaker 4: together at like a party, because there was another influencer

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Speaker 4: that documented the two of them there currently on that day,

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Speaker 4: so it wasn't like they were posting old footage, you

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Speaker 4: know what I mean. Yep, Okay, So I'm like really

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Speaker 4: relieved by that. I don't know why. I mean, like,

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Speaker 4: I just really want them to be together. It makes sense,

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Speaker 4: but they definitely had some time physically a part over

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Speaker 4: the past month or so that happened.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, and then yeah, it makes sense that Matt

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Speaker 2: James's mom would be on the show.

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Speaker 3: She's beautiful.

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Speaker 4: But does it because because Matt doesn't like love his

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Speaker 4: time from the show, even though he met Rachel through it,

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Speaker 4: you know, like, I don't think he like thinks highly

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Speaker 4: or whatever suggests or wouldever be part of it again himself.

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Speaker 4: So it's interesting that he would be down for his

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Speaker 4: mom to do it.

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Speaker 6: I don't know, don't you now.

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Speaker 2: I think he probably likes the show more than what

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Speaker 2: we know. I mean, nobody think about what it's done

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Speaker 2: for his life. He met his at least what we

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Speaker 2: assumes his partner. He started a whole new career from it.

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Speaker 2: He's getting to do all these marathons and these food tours.

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Speaker 2: Like I mean, I know there was some like difficulty

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Speaker 2: through it, but I bet now if he looks back,

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Speaker 2: he's like he's happy with where it spit him out.

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Speaker 6: I really want them to come on the podcast.

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Speaker 3: Let's bring them on, Let's spring them on. That's how

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Speaker 3: we really one.

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Speaker 4: They're like the next one that I feel like it's

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Speaker 4: difficult to get but really really important.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it'd be great. Okay.

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Speaker 2: Congratulations to Emily Ferguson and her husband William Carlson. Obviously

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Speaker 2: we did announce on the podcast that they did have

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Speaker 2: their son, Beckham, and also her husband just won the

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Speaker 2: Stanley Cup. There's a beautiful picture where she puts Beckham

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Speaker 2: in the Stanley Cup. What a picture to have framed

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Speaker 2: on you in your office one day, your son in

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Speaker 2: the Stanley Cup. What an incredible celebration.

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Speaker 6: Blow it up and put it above the fire place.

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Speaker 6: I know, how cool is that? So the baby is.

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Speaker 4: One month old, little Beckham, and he is he's in

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Speaker 4: the Stanley Cup. Two cool, I have a question for

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Speaker 4: you about sports. The Stanley Cup. Is it passed around

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Speaker 4: each year or is it just created new each year?

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Speaker 2: I mean there's always replicas, but it's it's passed around

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Speaker 2: because it is. Yeah, i mean people drink out of it.

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Speaker 2: It's been dented before, it needs to be fixed. There

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Speaker 2: is definitely like one Stanley Cup.

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Speaker 4: Okay, so it's not like the Super Bowl trophies where

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Speaker 4: like they are in the display case at the facility.

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Speaker 2: Well, I don't think those are the real I mean

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Speaker 2: those aren't the real ones. Obviously, they're replicas. And I

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Speaker 2: think once the team passed to pass it on, then

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Speaker 2: they'll get like a replica that'll they'll be able to

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Speaker 2: show off.

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Speaker 6: Okay, interesting.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to know where the Stanley Cup lives

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Speaker 2: or any of the Yeah, I mean, I'm sure there's

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Speaker 2: a place that everybody knows that loves hockey. But it's interesting.

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Speaker 2: Incredulations to Las Vegas on the win. It was a

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Speaker 2: great series, a great playoffs for them. They really dominated

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Speaker 2: and I'm very exciting. I'm sure all of them are

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Speaker 2: celebrating in big ways. Actually, I don't think we've talked

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Speaker 2: about this, but this is a headline that I have

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Speaker 2: some secret info.

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Speaker 3: I think I've shared this.

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Speaker 6: I love secret info from Ben Well.

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Speaker 2: Dean Ungler has been out in Denver quite a bit

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Speaker 2: and he's living out his truck as he does, like

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Speaker 2: not a van, his truck.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, when will does the crossover happen?

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Speaker 2: Well, there's a reason that he's living at his truck

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Speaker 2: because he is hiking all the fourteen ers and you know,

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Speaker 2: as I've seen you mentioned and uh, he's just kind

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Speaker 2: of cruising around because a lot of these have hard

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Speaker 2: trails in the van want to be able to get

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Speaker 2: up there, so he had to do it out of

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Speaker 2: his truck. He's gonna be living out his truck till

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Speaker 2: they get married. They're in Bali right now, so he's

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Speaker 2: going back and forth. But if you're out there just

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Speaker 2: sending a message and say best of luck, follow that journey.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be wild. I cannot tell you how impressive

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Speaker 2: it is. If he gets even half of them done

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Speaker 2: in one summer, it's.

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Speaker 3: Gonna be cool. Ashley.

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Speaker 2: That's all the headlines we have today. We will be

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Speaker 2: preparing and digging in this week to get ramped up

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Speaker 2: for the very first episode of The Bachelorette, which will

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Speaker 2: be airing very soon, and also Bachelor in Paradise is filming,

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Speaker 2: and so we'll probably start getting some rumors some headlines

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Speaker 2: from that. It's going to be a good week, just

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Speaker 2: a little bit more time in the off season. It's

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Speaker 2: been a quick offseason, overly good offseason for us. Make

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Speaker 2: sure you go back and listen to past episodes of

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Speaker 2: Almost Famous og and also the interview with Jojo and Jordan.

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Speaker 2: But until next time, I've been Ben, I've been Ashley.

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Speaker 6: See huh.

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Speaker 1: Follow the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast on

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