1 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:05,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff to Blow Your Mind production of My 2 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:11,160 Speaker 1: Heart Radio. Hey, you welcome to Stuff to Blow your Mind. 3 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 1: Listener mail. This is Robert Lamb and this is Joe McCormick. 4 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 1: And it's Monday, the day of the week that we 5 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:20,200 Speaker 1: read back some messages you have sent into the show account, 6 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:22,639 Speaker 1: which if you've never gotten in touch before, why not 7 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:26,439 Speaker 1: try it out. The email addresses contact at stuff to 8 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 1: Blow your Mind dot com. Anything is fair game. 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Let's do some listener mail. That's right. 53 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:49,119 Speaker 1: So we got a bunch of great responses to our 54 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 1: series on horror vakuih the Fear of the Void and 55 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:57,959 Speaker 1: it's many manifestations. This first message came from Corina Rob 56 00:02:58,000 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 1: Do you mind if I read this? Go for it. 57 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:08,240 Speaker 1: Corina says, Hello, guys, I've enjoyed listening to your podcast 58 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:09,960 Speaker 1: for a couple of years now, but what made me 59 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 1: write in now is that it recently contributed to a 60 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 1: creative project of mine by coincidence. I am an avid 61 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 1: hobby artist, and I listened to podcasts while I'm drawing 62 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 1: or painting. I always learned something new and it helps 63 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 1: me focus on my work. Anyway, I had just finished 64 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:29,360 Speaker 1: a sketch I wasn't entirely happy with and couldn't pinpoint 65 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 1: what was bothering me about it. Then, while I was 66 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:36,119 Speaker 1: chuckling to myself about old maps so convoluted with details 67 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 1: that one wishes to quote close the ads, that was 68 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 1: a good one, Rob, that that was you, Corina says, 69 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 1: it hit me. This issue had cross time and space 70 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 1: and arrived directly at my desk. My comic style drawing 71 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 1: shows two people on a cliff with a sunset sky 72 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 1: in the background. Photos attached. If you're interested, Rob, we 73 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 1: can take a look, which should be easy enough. I've 74 00:03:57,600 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 1: loved drawing since I could hold a pencil, and I 75 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 1: had a ref friends for this particular scene anyway, But 76 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 1: I had decided to go for a blindingly colorful sky 77 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 1: drawn in boldish lines. Uh, fill it with some clouds, 78 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 1: then add a riot of scribbles to the cliff and 79 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 1: way too many pebbles to boot because every one of 80 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 1: these details, taken by itself, struck me as pretty or interesting. However, 81 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 1: the characters who were supposed to be the center of 82 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 1: attention ended up getting lost in this crowded chaos. After 83 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 1: the epiphany that I had an unreasonable fixation on unnecessary decorations. 84 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 1: I made myself really think about what is actually important 85 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:36,719 Speaker 1: and streamlined the rest, A good course of action in 86 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 1: many a situation, I'd say at the end of the 87 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:42,799 Speaker 1: simplified scenery and in turn extra attention to the character's 88 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:46,160 Speaker 1: poses and expressions makes the finish drawing, in my opinion, 89 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 1: far superior to the sketch. Sorry for going on a 90 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:50,839 Speaker 1: bit long, but I had to share my account of 91 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:53,480 Speaker 1: horror akawy at work. Now, please excuse me while I 92 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 1: explore the depths of the stuff to blow your mind 93 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 1: archive and wait for Friday's Weird House Cinema episode. Best 94 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:02,160 Speaker 1: Wishes and lots of luck from across the Ocean Corina 95 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 1: and then Rob. I've attached both of the images she 96 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:08,280 Speaker 1: shared with us here. Uh you know, crean Up. I 97 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:10,799 Speaker 1: like them both, but I agree that the characters stand 98 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 1: out way more in the second and the first they 99 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:16,599 Speaker 1: almost kind of blend into the background. And you're you're correct, 100 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 1: that is a lot of pebbles. Yeah, yeah, I like these. 101 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 1: So yeah, the kind of punk, goth Edward gory kind 102 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 1: of images, I like it. That's good. Alright. This next 103 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 1: one comes to us from Chuck five. Chuck five says, 104 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 1: in your conversations about the abhorrent void, I suggest discussing MOM, 105 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 1: the Japanese aesthetic theory that what is not there defines 106 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 1: what is. If you've ever watched anime the breathing room 107 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 1: carved out by scenes of water dripping from leaves or 108 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:54,360 Speaker 1: just silent planes of snow, this is MOM. It also 109 00:05:54,440 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 1: saves animation time and money. Winky emoticon um and Chuck 110 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:02,599 Speaker 1: five includes a link here and says I find it 111 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 1: peaceful and not depending on what part of nothing is depicted. 112 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 1: So I was reading more about this concept. I've seen 113 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 1: it described as a a Japanese or a Sino Japanese concept, 114 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:16,919 Speaker 1: but it came across a good explanation of it in 115 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 1: a recent art and architecture book by a uv A 116 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 1: architecture professor named Sanda Ilisque. The book was called Experiencing 117 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:31,040 Speaker 1: Art and Architecture lessons on Looking from two and uh So. 118 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 1: In this book, the author makes a distinction between the 119 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 1: Japanese aesthetic of MA and negative space as it's usually 120 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:42,239 Speaker 1: understood in Western art and design. What would that difference 121 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 1: be well, she argues that in Western art, most of 122 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 1: the time, negative space is not taken as meaningful in 123 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 1: itself and is not necessarily a point of focus in 124 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:56,599 Speaker 1: an artwork, but rather a way to like highlight or 125 00:06:56,640 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 1: contextualize the figure of the artwork. The point of focus, 126 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:03,040 Speaker 1: like the characters maybe standing in the middle of the frame, 127 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 1: surrounded by some kind of negative space. So the in 128 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 1: in Western art, she's saying, the figure usually has primacy, 129 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 1: and the negative space is used to maybe make you 130 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 1: see the figure in a certain way. However, she argues 131 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 1: that in Japanese are the space itself can have primacy, 132 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 1: It can in a way have its own meaning and 133 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 1: maybe even be the point of focus or a a 134 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 1: major point of focus uh quote. Japanese aesthetics, however, has 135 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 1: a word for empty space ma and does not conceive 136 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 1: of it as in opposition to anything. On the contrary. 137 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 1: In Japanese aesthetics, mass space allows for, and even encourages 138 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 1: an awareness of both space and object, and suggests not 139 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 1: only an interdependence but also a reconciliation of voids and solids. 140 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 1: In mass space, the boundary between form and non form 141 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 1: is always on the verge of dissolving, and if you 142 00:07:57,000 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 1: look at a lot of the great Japanese artworks are 143 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 1: highlighted as examples of this esthetic of MA. One example 144 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 1: that often gets used, and it comes up in this 145 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 1: book itself is a sixteenth century ink on paper screen 146 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 1: painting or or drawing called The Pine Trees Screen by 147 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 1: Hassegawa to Haku. I see exactly what that means about. 148 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 1: It's not just like that there are figures in the 149 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 1: artwork and then spaces between them, but there's a kind 150 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 1: of like almost kind of a fluctuating in and out 151 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:36,439 Speaker 1: of existence or visibility of the figural parts and the 152 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 1: moss space. The empty space is kind of hard to 153 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:41,960 Speaker 1: describe it. It's almost kind of like a a cloud 154 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 1: of boundary between existing and non existing that doesn't neatly 155 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 1: follow the outlines of the trees, say, kind of like 156 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 1: penetrates them in a way. Do you know what I'm saying, rob, Yeah, 157 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 1: But a couple of other things she says that I 158 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:58,080 Speaker 1: find interesting. She argues that moss space often encourages the 159 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:01,680 Speaker 1: viewer to see the moss space in a temporal sense, 160 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 1: meaning like you get the idea that what is empty 161 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 1: now may once have been full and may become full again, 162 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 1: and what is full now may become empty. And in 163 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 1: that same way, she says that in many works of 164 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 1: Japanese art in architecture, moss space is understood as poignant. Uh, 165 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 1: you know that it it in a way brings a 166 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:25,319 Speaker 1: tear to the eye. It seems to suggest thoughts about 167 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 1: the passage of time and impermanence and the ephemerality of 168 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:33,200 Speaker 1: life and other phenomena. Yeah, it can often overflow with 169 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 1: feelings of nostalgia as well. Um. The listener here mentions anime. 170 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 1: And there's actually a two thousand and two interview that 171 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:46,200 Speaker 1: Roger Ebert conducted with Hayam Miyazaki, uh, the you know, 172 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:51,199 Speaker 1: legendary Japanese animation director responsible for such films as NAUSICAA 173 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 1: and Spirited Away. And you can find this it's on 174 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 1: Roger ebert dot com website. But I just want to 175 00:09:57,160 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 1: read a section from it here where they talk about this. 176 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:03,440 Speaker 1: Ebert writes, I told me a Zaki, I love the 177 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:07,840 Speaker 1: quote unquote gratuitous motion in his films. Instead of every 178 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 1: movement being dictated by the story, sometimes people will just 179 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:13,840 Speaker 1: sit for a moment where they will sigh, or look 180 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 1: in a running stream, or do something extra not to 181 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:18,720 Speaker 1: advance the story. But only to give the sense of 182 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 1: time and place and who they are. We have a 183 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 1: word for that in Japanese, he said, it's called mom emptiness. 184 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 1: It's there intentionally. Is that like the pillow words that 185 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 1: separate phrases in Japanese poetry? Ebert asks, and then Yazaki says, 186 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:36,080 Speaker 1: I don't think it's like the pillow word. He clapped 187 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 1: his hands three or four times, and then he says, quote, 188 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:42,599 Speaker 1: the time in between my clapping is ma. If you 189 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 1: just have NonStop action with no breathing space at all, 190 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:48,079 Speaker 1: it's just dizziness. But if you take a moment, then 191 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 1: the tension building and the film can grow into a 192 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 1: wider dimension. If you just have constant tension at eighty 193 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:56,440 Speaker 1: degrees all the time, you just get numb, and there's 194 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:57,840 Speaker 1: a great deal more. It's a it's a it's a 195 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:01,320 Speaker 1: nice little interview piece. So anyway to Chuck five, Yes, 196 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:03,679 Speaker 1: thank you for suggesting this concept. I think it has 197 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 1: lots of relevance to what we talked about in the 198 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 1: horror Vakawee episodes. I would say it's almost kind of 199 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:15,079 Speaker 1: a full eighty degree anti horror Vakawe not only tolerance 200 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 1: for empty space, but a kind of reveling in empty space. 201 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 1: So when I look at this Pines artwork, the pine 202 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:26,960 Speaker 1: Tree screen, it's in the empty space where the imagination dwells. 203 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:28,520 Speaker 1: You know, when you look at this and it kind 204 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 1: of makes makes your your mind come to life. Your 205 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:35,080 Speaker 1: mind comes to life not by looking at the trees, 206 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:37,680 Speaker 1: but by looking at the empty spaces between them. That's 207 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 1: where it feels like it is suggesting emotions. Yeah, it 208 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 1: also makes me think of various lines from Corey McCarthy 209 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 1: where we all have a bite where it will be 210 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:51,439 Speaker 1: like he chewed quietly and thought about his life. Well, 211 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 1: I want to say there are some some places where 212 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 1: it will be something to that effect, Like this character 213 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 1: stares at something and it's just and generally it's a 214 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 1: Cormack writes that this individual is reflecting on something, but 215 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:06,720 Speaker 1: we're not like given their stream of consciousness filled. Instead, 216 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 1: it's just all we're looking from the outside as they think, 217 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 1: and we're not told what they think. Yeah, exactly, there's 218 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:16,840 Speaker 1: no running into your dialogue in these particular moments. Okay. 219 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:19,560 Speaker 1: Next message, also in response to horrorv Akawy. This is 220 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:27,000 Speaker 1: from Anna and it says, Hi, Robert, Joe and j J. 221 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 1: I've been enjoying your latest episodes on Fear of Empty Space, 222 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 1: and I was thinking about how this relates to the 223 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 1: power of silence. I've heard from a few different sources 224 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 1: that silence is very powerful in getting people to tell 225 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 1: you something that could be in political interviews or police interrogations. 226 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:47,080 Speaker 1: If you leave a silence, people will just want to 227 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:49,840 Speaker 1: fill it and they will end up revealing something that 228 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 1: they did not mean to. Just think about how awkward 229 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:56,400 Speaker 1: silences can be with people you don't know that well, 230 00:12:56,440 --> 00:12:59,439 Speaker 1: say on a first date or something. Sometimes that silence 231 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 1: can seem almost painful. Keep up the good work, Anna, 232 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 1: thank you, and yeah, great point, and you're exactly right. 233 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 1: It is an underappreciated, uh powerful dynamic in in conversation, 234 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 1: in rhetoric to just pause and not say anything for 235 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 1: a while. Of course, in in rhetoric, like in speechmaking, 236 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 1: pauses are very They can be very powerful in um, 237 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:27,680 Speaker 1: you know, sort of like increasing tension in the audience 238 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:30,440 Speaker 1: or calling attention to what you just said, making it 239 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:33,559 Speaker 1: have more gravity, or in leading up to what you're 240 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:36,200 Speaker 1: about to say either way. But yeah, the thing about 241 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 1: the police interrogations is great too, because certainly or or 242 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:43,920 Speaker 1: like trying to interview a slippery politician. You can often 243 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:46,320 Speaker 1: get a lot out of somebody just by not saying 244 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:57,880 Speaker 1: anything and letting them sit there in silence. Alright, This 245 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:00,840 Speaker 1: next one comes to us from Steven Steve and says, Hey, 246 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:03,600 Speaker 1: Robin Joe, I'm about a week behind in my podcast 247 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:07,400 Speaker 1: right now. Uh, yeah, that's exactly what we're talking about. Uh, 248 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 1: it can be hard to get caught back up from 249 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 1: the holidays. I wanted to comment on something you spoke 250 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 1: about in the episode Horror Back Away Part two. Rob 251 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 1: said he wished to see monsters in the margins of 252 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 1: Google Maps, and I'm pleased to say that for an 253 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 1: April Fool's joke in Maps did for a short time 254 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 1: have hidden Pokemon scattered around to find and collect. Although 255 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 1: it isn't quite the same as Leviathan in the Ocean, 256 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:35,680 Speaker 1: I think it has a similar vibe. Oh absolutely, I 257 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 1: mean that there are some monster as Pokemons out there, 258 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 1: so um, depending on what they had shuffling and sliding 259 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:45,080 Speaker 1: around in the corners of the maps, that it may 260 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:48,880 Speaker 1: have felt very appropriate. Definitely. The one I would be 261 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 1: most afraid of is I'm told Pikachu as a baby now, 262 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 1: and uh, Pikachu does not have a baby. There is 263 00:14:56,720 --> 00:15:00,160 Speaker 1: there is a prior evolution to Pikachu called Pete. You 264 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 1: it's not Pikachu's baby, baby Pikachu. That's just that that's dangerous. 265 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 1: That's like high level waste. Yeah, you have if memories 266 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 1: are Yeah, you have Piechu Pikachu, right you. And then 267 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 1: in a separate sort of tangent, you have Detective Pikachu. 268 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 1: Detective Pikachu. Right yeah, yeah, Detective Pikachu. Good movie. I 269 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 1: liked it anyway. Stephen continues, I also wanted to suggest 270 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 1: Mosquito for Weird House Cinema. Something about black bear sized 271 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:35,280 Speaker 1: mutant mosquitos rampaging ground seems right up your alley. Thank you, 272 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 1: guys for all the great content you make. I'm always 273 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 1: excited to hear your voices come across my podcast rotation. Stephen, 274 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 1: is this the one that has Gunner Hanson in it? 275 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 1: It is like Gunner Hanson is the most well known 276 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 1: individual in the film. Um he has top building. Um, though, 277 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know. You also have Ron Ashton 278 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 1: in it, and um, he was a member of the Stooges. 279 00:15:58,280 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 1: So I guess, depending on what circle you're in Uh, 280 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:03,760 Speaker 1: you could you could make a case for him instead, 281 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 1: But yeah, I have not seen Mosquito, though I would 282 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 1: be hard pressed to choose between this and two thousand 283 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 1: five man Squito when it comes to Mosquito based hard films. 284 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:18,280 Speaker 1: So I was thinking of the right movie. But before 285 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 1: this I realized I was confused because I was mixing 286 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 1: it up with the similar year this came out in 287 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 1: the movie Ticks. Yes, you know Ticks. The it's got 288 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 1: like Seth Green and Clint Howard. Yeah, Ticks is Ticks 289 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 1: is one we might come back to. I think we 290 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 1: watched this back in the day for for trailer talk, 291 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 1: and it's a it's a trashy monster movie, uh with 292 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 1: an interesting cast. Um, it's uh, and it's gross, It's 293 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 1: very gross. What is the premise is so weird? It's like, 294 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 1: is it like a group of troubled teens are like 295 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 1: loaded into a van and take into the woods for 296 00:16:57,640 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 1: some character building. But then there are giant and ticks 297 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 1: that have something to do with Clint Howard out there. Yeah, 298 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:07,160 Speaker 1: he's rearing him or something. I don't remember exactly how 299 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:10,360 Speaker 1: that that works. And Rance Howard's in it as well. 300 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 1: Of course you get where one Howard goes you make 301 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:16,240 Speaker 1: get more than one? Love a two Howard movie? Yeah 302 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 1: at any rate, Yes, Stephen, thanks for the recommendations. All right, 303 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:23,880 Speaker 1: let's see Rob. Should I do this one from Dion? Yes, 304 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 1: go for it, Dion says, dear Robin Joe. Congratulations to 305 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:34,920 Speaker 1: Joe on his new arrival. It's been lovely to hear 306 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:39,680 Speaker 1: your thoughtful parenting anecdotes lately. Um, which were the thoughtful ones? 307 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:43,639 Speaker 1: I'm not sure off to review? Um? What was really 308 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:46,359 Speaker 1: interesting to hear Seth on the show. I'm also a 309 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:49,640 Speaker 1: sound designer and record enthusiasts, so I enjoyed the Seth 310 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:54,359 Speaker 1: based content. Thank you for consistently fascinating podcasts. I've just 311 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:57,480 Speaker 1: listened to the great episode about horror Akay part one. 312 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:00,679 Speaker 1: I really enjoyed all the different angles that considered an 313 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:03,640 Speaker 1: excellent listen. I can weigh in a little on the 314 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:07,560 Speaker 1: food plating discussion. Remember we talked about uh, yeah, so 315 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:10,399 Speaker 1: we were talking about art and design and maps and stuff, 316 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 1: but I guess also about plates like how much white 317 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 1: space do you leave on a plate? And and uh 318 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 1: is there more space on the plate typically in fancy restaurants? Yeah, 319 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 1: Dion goes on I was a chef in all kinds 320 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 1: of restaurants for fifteen years. The quote closed white space 321 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 1: taboo in newspapers isn't specifically a thing for plated food. 322 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:34,439 Speaker 1: The equivalent, no, no would be the rim of a plate, 323 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 1: which should be kept clean and clear in almost all circumstances. 324 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:41,480 Speaker 1: I'm talking about classic twelve inch white plates with a 325 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:45,440 Speaker 1: nice wide rim. Some restaurants have more bespoke and even 326 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:48,640 Speaker 1: colored plates more recently, but in my mind, at least, 327 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:52,200 Speaker 1: the white plate remains the classic choice. You'll find more 328 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:55,240 Speaker 1: amateur chefs will have an instinctive fear of the void, 329 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 1: and will often do things like scatter cracked pepper around 330 00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 1: the rim of the plate for decorationation. In practice, violating 331 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:04,720 Speaker 1: the white frame seldom works. It's one of those rules 332 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:08,399 Speaker 1: that should only be broken thoughtfully, deliberately, and by experts. 333 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:13,360 Speaker 1: A little more about plating. The trend in the nineties 334 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:17,959 Speaker 1: was for altitude, great towering things that would be virtually 335 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 1: impossible for the white staff to deliver to the table intact. 336 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:24,719 Speaker 1: I've heard this discussed as a reaction to the seventies 337 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:29,359 Speaker 1: flat presentation, shunning the old flat and rural and embracing 338 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:33,680 Speaker 1: the modern urban environment of the skyscraper. This presentation leaves 339 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:35,920 Speaker 1: a lot of white space on a large plate which 340 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:39,440 Speaker 1: would usually be sparsely decorated, drawing focus to the centerpiece. 341 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 1: As you have discussed again, current trends are a little 342 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 1: more diverse, but this presentation is still with us. Dion, 343 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 1: that is really funny about the chefs having an aversion 344 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:52,720 Speaker 1: to putting stuff on the rim of the plate. I 345 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 1: have a specific memory. I don't know what this is from, 346 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:58,760 Speaker 1: but of like a a gift of like, uh, because 347 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 1: Gordon Ramsey just like blowing parsley off the rim of 348 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 1: a plate he was handed. That's kind of rude, but okay, yeah, well, 349 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 1: I mean that was kind of his his whole gimmick 350 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:12,879 Speaker 1: for a long time. I'm a jerk. Yeah, um that 351 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:15,439 Speaker 1: that the altitude thing. I know, this was something that 352 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:18,159 Speaker 1: I think some stand up comedians had a lot of 353 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:21,760 Speaker 1: fun with. But I think that you know, if it's 354 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 1: if it's the right dish, it can still be pretty 355 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:26,840 Speaker 1: fun to have your I don't know, your your tuna 356 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:29,920 Speaker 1: slices forming a little tower at the center of the plate. 357 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 1: That kind of thing. As long as it's not too precarious, 358 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:34,720 Speaker 1: go for it. I agree. I think it depends on 359 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:36,360 Speaker 1: what kind of food item it is. Like, I think 360 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:40,400 Speaker 1: altitude is fun on a plate if it's also uh 361 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 1: fun and still appetizing once you demolish it, you know, 362 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:46,359 Speaker 1: is it like fun to take apart and demolish and 363 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:49,120 Speaker 1: then eat or does the altitude just make it kind 364 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:52,480 Speaker 1: of cumbersome? M yeah, it's kind of And I guess 365 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:55,200 Speaker 1: sometimes it's it's a real trade off because take the 366 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:58,200 Speaker 1: stuffed bell pepper versus just having the bell pepper chopped 367 00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:01,080 Speaker 1: up in whatever would go in stuffing. You know, like 368 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:03,920 Speaker 1: the clearly the stuff bell pepper is a great presentation, 369 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:08,359 Speaker 1: but the experience of eating it can sometimes feel a 370 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 1: little lackluster when you're sitting there carving up your your 371 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:14,680 Speaker 1: bell pepper and then combining that with whatever was stuffed inside, 372 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 1: and then you run out of the stuff inside the 373 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:19,680 Speaker 1: bell pepper before you finish off the rest of the pepper. 374 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:21,800 Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe I'm the only one who has 375 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:25,960 Speaker 1: this this experience. No, I think you're right. I'm also 376 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:28,200 Speaker 1: I'm thinking of examples where you know, there's there's some 377 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:31,119 Speaker 1: piled high food that really sort of defeats the purpose 378 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:35,159 Speaker 1: of the food I'm thinking about your classic example nachos. Okay, 379 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:37,879 Speaker 1: you see nachos piled really high. What's gonna be the 380 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:40,080 Speaker 1: deal with the nachos on the bottom of that pile? 381 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:43,199 Speaker 1: Nothing on them or they're super soggy. I think the 382 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:46,400 Speaker 1: best nachos are a very flat, even layer, because then 383 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:50,200 Speaker 1: it's all you know, every chip is great, yeah, absolutely yeah. 384 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:52,920 Speaker 1: Otherwise yeah, you're just gonna get just plain chips down 385 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 1: there at the bottom. Okay, anyway, coming back, uh Dion 386 00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:59,440 Speaker 1: says on a complete tangent, you might enjoy this Skippy 387 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:03,000 Speaker 1: the Bush Kangaroo trailer that I neglected to send after 388 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:05,920 Speaker 1: the Whistling episodes. Remember we did a series on whistling 389 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:08,600 Speaker 1: earlier last year. I don't know if this ever got 390 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:12,200 Speaker 1: popular beyond our shores, but all Australians of a certain 391 00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:14,960 Speaker 1: vintage have it baked into their d NA. These were 392 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 1: simpler times when we only had four free to air channels. 393 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:21,360 Speaker 1: There's always a eucalypt close by over here, but not 394 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:24,919 Speaker 1: necessarily a kangaroo, and I think every kid fantasized that 395 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:28,120 Speaker 1: they could grab a leaf and call for Skippy. Actually, 396 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 1: I'm fairly sure that leaves are too thick for it 397 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:33,480 Speaker 1: to actually work as a whistle. You can make a 398 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 1: sort of hand kazoo with a blade of grass held 399 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:38,640 Speaker 1: between your thumbs. However, again, thank you for all you do. 400 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:42,920 Speaker 1: Warm regards, Dion ps. I don't think kangaroos can throw 401 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 1: things with their hands, but maybe they could kick up 402 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 1: dust with their tail ausee style. Um. I've never heard 403 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:52,560 Speaker 1: of Skippy the Kangaroo here, but I was looking at 404 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 1: the trailer and yeah, it looks like a lot of fun. 405 00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 1: I love. I love hearing from folks in different countries 406 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 1: or different reach and where they had a particular show 407 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 1: that was just a part of everyone's childhood there that 408 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:07,080 Speaker 1: maybe didn't travel as far, you know, Like I'm reminded 409 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:10,000 Speaker 1: of like a British variant being things like a Stick 410 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:13,159 Speaker 1: of the Dump hearing people talk about watching Stick of 411 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:14,639 Speaker 1: the Dump when there a kid, which is about a 412 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 1: if memory served a children's show about a boy who 413 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 1: be friends a caveman living in the local dump. Uh, 414 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:24,679 Speaker 1: you know, things like that. They just we did not 415 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 1: have that here, so it wasn't a part of our childhood. Likewise, 416 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 1: Skippy the Bush Kangaroo. The one I'm really envious of 417 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:32,159 Speaker 1: is the spirit of Dark and Lonely Water. I know 418 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 1: that's not a show, but that Donald Pleasants, the the 419 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 1: Jenny Green Teeth Pools, that's just good. Yes, you know 420 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:43,359 Speaker 1: one thing we did so. I was also not familiar 421 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:46,399 Speaker 1: with Skippy the Bush Kangaroo. But I recall when I 422 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 1: was a child, like in the late eighties early nineties, 423 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 1: I feel like there was just a glut of Australian 424 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:57,439 Speaker 1: themed US media, And I don't know if any of 425 00:23:57,480 --> 00:24:00,159 Speaker 1: it was actually Australian in origin, or if that was 426 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:04,359 Speaker 1: just a time like a lot of especially children's oriented 427 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:07,640 Speaker 1: media where just got really into the idea of Australia. 428 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:11,600 Speaker 1: Like I think there were two different children's cartoons that 429 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:15,920 Speaker 1: were about like a child who befriends magic koala bears. Well, 430 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 1: you know koalas are adorable, so that makes sense. But 431 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:21,879 Speaker 1: do you think was this around the time of crocodile Dundee. 432 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 1: Do you think it was part of the whole crocodile 433 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:28,240 Speaker 1: dundee craze that that took off in the States. Possibly, 434 00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:30,680 Speaker 1: I don't know, Uh what I just looked at. I 435 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 1: remembered one of them is called news Ales, and I 436 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 1: just looked it up, and this is actually a cartoon 437 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:41,359 Speaker 1: of Japanese origin that has Australian themes and aired in 438 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 1: the United States on Nickelodeon. Interesting, and I'm not familiar 439 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 1: with that one. Alright, We'll close it out here with 440 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:50,679 Speaker 1: one Weird House Cinema message. This one comes to us 441 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 1: from Karen Karen Rides, Robert and Joe. I've enjoyed your 442 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 1: podcast for years, and although I listened to Weird House 443 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:04,600 Speaker 1: Cinema every Friday, I rarely watched the films you review. 444 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:08,680 Speaker 1: Your descriptions and banter are usually entertaining enough, and even 445 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 1: considering that Forbidden Planet is still one of my favorite movies, 446 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:15,479 Speaker 1: I've largely lost my taste for horror and sci fi schlock. 447 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:19,359 Speaker 1: As I near seventy. This week was an exception. My 448 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:21,879 Speaker 1: husband and I signed up for a trial subscription to 449 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:25,399 Speaker 1: the Criterion Channel so we could stream Invention for Destruction, 450 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:28,040 Speaker 1: and what a treat. It was everything you promised and 451 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:31,080 Speaker 1: then some. You were right in that it was impossible 452 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:34,119 Speaker 1: to accurately describe the art. It was visually stunning and 453 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:37,680 Speaker 1: oh the lines. Thank you so much for this recommendation 454 00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:41,239 Speaker 1: and for continuing to provide interesting and entertaining content. You're 455 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:44,080 Speaker 1: both skilled science communicators, knowledgeable and loads of fun to 456 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:48,040 Speaker 1: listen to to best Karen, Oh well that's too nice, Karen, 457 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:50,280 Speaker 1: But thank you then, thanks for the message, glad that 458 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:53,880 Speaker 1: you loved Invention for Destruction as we did. Yeah, yeah, 459 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:56,399 Speaker 1: it's it's it's a lot of fun. All right, We're 460 00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 1: gonna go and close it up there. 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