Speaker 1: I am all in that I am all in with
Speaker 1: Scott Patterson and I Heart Radio podcast. Okay, everybody, here
Speaker 1: we are. I'm Scott Patterson and this is the I
Speaker 1: Am All In Podcast with our Heart Radio and one
Speaker 1: eleven productions. I am joined by the crew, Amy Sugarman,
Speaker 1: Danielle Romo, Riley Pellucis. Hello, Welcome back, everybody. I cannot
Speaker 1: wait to hear what you think of a tiske get
Speaker 1: a Tasket. I can't wait either, because I'm it's still
Speaker 1: you know, the thoughts are bouncing back and forth, back
Speaker 1: and forth. Uh, I I enjoyed. Is this the first
Speaker 1: time you've actually seen a get a task? Yes, it
Speaker 1: is the first time, and it's it's it's quite shocking
Speaker 1: to see the work it really is and how it
Speaker 1: comes out. And I just I was, you know, I
Speaker 1: don't want to go into it again because I've belabored
Speaker 1: this point. Um, but it is quite um a light show.
Speaker 1: It's very light and airy, and I didn't find that
Speaker 1: it was I think it really captured the essence of
Speaker 1: what Gilmore Girls is and why people like it so much.
Speaker 1: I love it. I think that show and embodies all
Speaker 1: of the qualities all the best qualities of the show
Speaker 1: and what what what it can bring to bear on
Speaker 1: a viewing public. And it's just this sort of lightness
Speaker 1: and this, this joyfulness and this and it was I
Speaker 1: love these episodes where the all that the entire town's
Speaker 1: involved and you've got and you're tolerating Taylor, but Taylor's
Speaker 1: in his element as a game show host and he's
Speaker 1: up there with a gavel and just he's in his
Speaker 1: element and everybody's loving it. And it's just a good
Speaker 1: time and it's a great thing to bring a community together.
Speaker 1: And I think that's just such a positive um you know.
Speaker 1: And we'll get into it, but I just, I just
Speaker 1: I was quite delighted by uh, pretty much the entire thing.
Speaker 1: I didn't really have any uh bad moments. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, Dean got a little they're destroying Dean's character
Speaker 1: for a reason. Yes, yes, I see that quite clearly.
Speaker 1: In the writer's room, it's like, listen, what are we
Speaker 1: gonna do to make this kid look like a real schmuck.
Speaker 1: And it's like, I mean, talk about not playing it cool.
Speaker 1: And as a cautionary tale to all you young guys
Speaker 1: out there that are involved in some sort of a
Speaker 1: love triangle, don't act like Dean, don't go to the
Speaker 1: mother and wine. Do not do that because then it'll
Speaker 1: set you up to be ridiculous and mother daughter conversations later.
Speaker 1: But it is intentional, yes, that the writers are doing
Speaker 1: something because they're sure making us like Jess and I
Speaker 1: still love Dean, but he is getting a tad I
Speaker 1: don't want to say annoying. He's just sort of not
Speaker 1: the mayn right now. No, he's six ft five or
Speaker 1: six ft four, right, and what is he He's going crazy?
Speaker 1: I mean over this guy who's you know, half he's
Speaker 1: an entire head shorter. There's nothing to fear. Why is
Speaker 1: he so becoming so unhinged? Well, because he's seventeen, and
Speaker 1: that's what seventeen year olds do, I guess, But you
Speaker 1: know it's it's it's not it's not what playing cool
Speaker 1: is all about. So Jess is the one that's playing cool.
Speaker 1: Although I thought when Jess came back the second time
Speaker 1: in the grocery store said he two for one sale
Speaker 1: to get another? What was he getting? What was he
Speaker 1: buying in the store super super clue to buy two
Speaker 1: super close? I thought that was I don't think they
Speaker 1: needed that that's one. That's the only scene I would
Speaker 1: have cut interesting takes. So you thought, like they did it,
Speaker 1: they did it enough. And Jess is so cool, he's
Speaker 1: not going to go back for more, doesn't have to
Speaker 1: go back for more. I thought it weakened him and
Speaker 1: he was so cool and he stood there and he goes,
Speaker 1: I hope I'm not interrupting anything. You guys. It was
Speaker 1: like Humphrey Bogard. I mean, he was super cool. He
Speaker 1: should have had a cigarette dangling out of his mouth.
Speaker 1: And you know, I think the costumer nails it with
Speaker 1: you there they that really is such an important aspect
Speaker 1: to him. For me, that makes him even that much
Speaker 1: more cool. He just looks and acts like a complete stud.
Speaker 1: And I'm just falling in love with him, Like Rory, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean it's inevitable. It's just it's just inevitable. He's
Speaker 1: so easy on the eyes, he's so cool. You know,
Speaker 1: he's such a good actor, and he was so young,
Speaker 1: and it just and even you know, look, I think
Speaker 1: the hard the difficult acting assignment was with Jared and
Speaker 1: you know, how unhinged do I become and how dependent
Speaker 1: do I become? And he committed to it, he really did,
Speaker 1: so hats off to him for that. And I just
Speaker 1: think I think Alexis a lot of her reactions, and
Speaker 1: I love how Alexis approaches the character in her utter
Speaker 1: softness with everything her relaxation and the softness in her face,
Speaker 1: and and there's never any overacting or any overcommitting. It's
Speaker 1: just sort of, you know, it's almost very cerebral, but
Speaker 1: you know that there's an emotional component to it because
Speaker 1: you feel everything that she's saying. What a great point
Speaker 1: you just made about Jared too, because I didn't think
Speaker 1: about that until you said it, that like, Jared should
Speaker 1: get credit for playing it so well because he's intentionally
Speaker 1: has to play this guy that's sort of unhandered, like
Speaker 1: you're saying, and Alexis shines so much because you just
Speaker 1: love Rory and Jess. You're just like, this guy's just
Speaker 1: so elf and cool. But then, right, Jared doesn't really
Speaker 1: get credit for playing it so well because you're like,
Speaker 1: he just gets the criticism, you know, from me and
Speaker 1: you whatever, and like, oh, he's the characters we get,
Speaker 1: but you know he's okay. So the question becomes, as
Speaker 1: an actor, is there a way to play that without
Speaker 1: weakening your character, but yet still becoming unhinged. Because he's
Speaker 1: directed to become unhinged. It's like you have to be
Speaker 1: the complete opposite of the cool, common collected, very confident chess.
Speaker 1: So is there a world? You know? And I think
Speaker 1: that's maybe some discussions he had with the director, very
Speaker 1: gifted director. I think it was Robert Berlinger. Wasn't it uh?
Speaker 1: A terrific job? And and you know, can I pull
Speaker 1: back on this? Can I can I retain some dignity somehow?
Speaker 1: And but how do you do that when you go
Speaker 1: up to somebody's mother and and and you know, that's
Speaker 1: just a tough Because Jared got the script, he read it,
Speaker 1: he goes, oh jeez. You know, he didn't want to
Speaker 1: play that. That's not his choice. He didn't want to
Speaker 1: look like the weak one and the one that was
Speaker 1: losing and the whole thing. But his job as an
Speaker 1: actor to tell that story is to become unhinged and
Speaker 1: somewhat unlikable and somewhat What a great point you're making,
Speaker 1: because it has to happen for us the audience fall
Speaker 1: in love with Jess and so I never thought of
Speaker 1: it that way. But yeah, that's such a great perspective
Speaker 1: you have to do because right it, Dean played it
Speaker 1: too cool and was too likable. I'm going to think
Speaker 1: Jess as a jerk for stealing her away. But because
Speaker 1: of how it's going, I'm like, yeah, go eat with Jess,
Speaker 1: go eat with him. But what Wait a minute, wait
Speaker 1: a minute? Is it better? Is it more powerful? Does
Speaker 1: it make the audience participate more? If Jared is cool, common,
Speaker 1: collected as and as much as Jesse's, how would you know?
Speaker 1: How could he have pulled that off with that dialogue
Speaker 1: and yet still been cool, calm and collected. Could he
Speaker 1: have done it? I don't know that it was possible
Speaker 1: to do that with the given the dialogue, especially when
Speaker 1: he went to the mother and said, you know, he
Speaker 1: had to be all freaked out. Yeah, I don't, I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's but it's it's a choice you make.
Speaker 1: It said, what temperature do you come in? And man,
Speaker 1: I'm getting hot. Gosh, I told you my motor is
Speaker 1: running hot. Jesus, I'm getting hot again. Um it's the lights.
Speaker 1: It's the lights in my studio. You you've got a
Speaker 1: different look on right now, but you got a denim
Speaker 1: you're doing denim on denim, like like Luke, it's a
Speaker 1: little no, no, I'm not like it. I don't have
Speaker 1: you know, you know what whatever. But but I think
Speaker 1: Jared really had um a tough job to do there.
Speaker 1: He did diversion and and those are the kinds of
Speaker 1: discussions that an actor has with a director, like, Hey,
Speaker 1: I don't really want to give in too much here.
Speaker 1: I think it's hurting the character. I don't want to
Speaker 1: take my character down this much. I don't want him
Speaker 1: to have here this ridiculous. But if he doesn't and
Speaker 1: he's cool, he like Jazz, then what happens to Rory's
Speaker 1: lines to the jokes with Laura lyone Roy later it's like, well,
Speaker 1: I guess you can just talk to my mother that
Speaker 1: let that falls if he doesn't commit and be kind
Speaker 1: of wimpy. They all did it perfectly. It's just poor
Speaker 1: poor Dean is kind of like sacrificial punishment. The exact
Speaker 1: official lamp exactly because making me love Jazz. I love
Speaker 1: this episode. Wait, I want to I want to hear
Speaker 1: what everybody thinks, But to me, this is the best
Speaker 1: episode so far. Yeah you think so, Yeah, this is
Speaker 1: my favorite so far. I think it's up there with
Speaker 1: with the other two before the bad one and the
Speaker 1: one that like so much. Yeah, yeah, I think it's
Speaker 1: it's kind of up there with that because it was
Speaker 1: so spirited community wise, you know, with Taylor running the
Speaker 1: show and being his over the top self and really
Speaker 1: enjoying it and really enjoying his character. And you know,
Speaker 1: the one thing you got to give to Taylor, he's yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, that guy's committed and he loves that town
Speaker 1: and he loves being in that position. And I guess
Speaker 1: he said he's just a natural born leader, Old Taylor dozy,
Speaker 1: isn't he. I love everything about this episode, and I'm
Speaker 1: so glad that we had Rose on because Rose talked
Speaker 1: about the food being a character, and it's like that
Speaker 1: we need to start a new segment talking about the food,
Speaker 1: and it's like, WHOA did this episode hand us that
Speaker 1: on a silver platter? Like the food is epic from
Speaker 1: from Suki's amazing basket all the way down to like
Speaker 1: the crappy basket you have to share with Lorelai, with
Speaker 1: like her like beef jerky or whatever? Right? And is
Speaker 1: that as a is? That is is tisket a task?
Speaker 1: That is that defines what Stars Hollow is. It's it's
Speaker 1: almost you know, it's it's it's something that any small
Speaker 1: town would want to participate in. I'm sure a lot
Speaker 1: of small towns have adopted this, and they do this
Speaker 1: annually in honor of the show or just because it's
Speaker 1: a good idea. I think a lot of people around
Speaker 1: the country. Hey, you know, and I don't know, so
Speaker 1: many people adopted the pajama thing, you know, the gag
Speaker 1: with the you know where Jackson came out with the
Speaker 1: pictures of himself. People did that. I don't know, do
Speaker 1: you did you really like that? I mean, not that
Speaker 1: we're going off track here, but that that was supposed
Speaker 1: to be a funny I love all the quirky things
Speaker 1: of the town. That's the quirkiest of the quirky d
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just it's it's just an innocent, funny thing.
Speaker 1: Pajamas with their own bottle on. Silly, I know, but yeah,
Speaker 1: it's funny, I guess. I mean, I wouldn't be caught
Speaker 1: dead and something like that. But you know, I don't know.
Speaker 1: Miracles can happen. Jesus, it's hot in here. Yeah you
Speaker 1: should just yeah, you know what I'm gonna strip. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna take off. Sorry, first time you want to? You
Speaker 1: want to see me strip? Everybody? Here we go, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna strip. There go getting it off. It's just too hot, guys.
Speaker 1: Obviously Scott was hinting to something I don't even want
Speaker 1: to tell you. Guys, thank you even believe what st
Speaker 1: just did. Wait a minute, I'm not finished. That is iconic, you, guys,
Speaker 1: Scott is literally changing his whole outfit and you need
Speaker 1: to go on our instagram to see what has happened.
Speaker 1: And if you thought he was acting a little odd,
Speaker 1: you will understand why because you need an excuse to
Speaker 1: show us what he just did. These are the most
Speaker 1: comfortable pajamas I have ever. How those are amazing. This
Speaker 1: is a wonderful addition to mind. Is definitely where, oh
Speaker 1: my God put Johama wardrobe. Look at that are just
Speaker 1: so good. If you guys want to see this visual,
Speaker 1: please go to our instagram. I am all in podcast.
Speaker 1: This is a sight to see. Really, let me randomly
Speaker 1: bring up that last episode. I just got a test
Speaker 1: from John Senna. John Senna just texted me he goes
Speaker 1: nice one. Now you get it right? Showing up in
Speaker 1: his superhero custom. Now this is how you do it. Huh.
Speaker 1: All right, everybody, we're gonna take a break. Everybody's got
Speaker 1: a towel off. We'll get back after these messages and
Speaker 1: give you a chance to change into your own put
Speaker 1: John yea, all right, everybody, we're back. We're discussing just
Speaker 1: get a test, get a just get a task. It
Speaker 1: quite a delightful episode in the Gilmore repertoire. And let's
Speaker 1: get Riley and Danielle's opinion on this show. What you
Speaker 1: girls think? Um? This was everything I wanted in more
Speaker 1: exactly what I needed after that downer of an episode
Speaker 1: last week. But one thing I will say obviously, like
Speaker 1: the just thing was great. I lived for that moment.
Speaker 1: But the one storyline of this episode that I just
Speaker 1: could not stop laughing was Suki and Jackson. I oh
Speaker 1: my god, it was so amazing and I love seeing
Speaker 1: that next thing in their relationship, and like the miscommunication
Speaker 1: and Suki wasn't picking up the hints of Jackson. Was
Speaker 1: there intentional? I hate to interrupt you, but was she
Speaker 1: playing dumb just a toy with him? I think I
Speaker 1: think Luke was doing the same thing with Laurela with
Speaker 1: that attitude. It was their little picnic lunch because his
Speaker 1: attitude really changed. I think Suki was clueless, really really,
Speaker 1: because he was very down at the end of their
Speaker 1: initial conversation about you know, should I or shouldn't I
Speaker 1: up the lease? And then he kind of slunk sculpt
Speaker 1: the way he was and she didn't notice it. And
Speaker 1: Suki notices everything, you know what I mean. I think
Speaker 1: she wasn't get it. I don't know I for me,
Speaker 1: because I was asking myself, how is she playing this?
Speaker 1: How is how is Melissa playing this? And I think
Speaker 1: she was playing it like, Okay, I know what he's
Speaker 1: up to. How could you not? And I'm going to
Speaker 1: milk this for a wedding proposal. And when she got
Speaker 1: it because she ain't that girl that's going to move
Speaker 1: in with somebody and not your marriage. She's a traditional girl.
Speaker 1: I think she's a traditional girl. I'm with you, Amy.
Speaker 1: I feel like it was just yeah, she I just
Speaker 1: took it as we saw it that she wasn't getting
Speaker 1: the hands. And then all of a sudden, they he
Speaker 1: doesn't buy the basket, and then they come back together
Speaker 1: and he goes and pays Kurt two basket and then
Speaker 1: and then he realized it's like, wait, I don't want
Speaker 1: to just move in with her, I want to marry her.
Speaker 1: And I love the proposal, And it was so subtle
Speaker 1: and just so perfect for them. I think it's what
Speaker 1: she set him up for. It was still surprised when
Speaker 1: it happened. God, she'd be a genius. I don't. I
Speaker 1: don't think that that. I think that. Listen, y'all are
Speaker 1: smarter than men. Let's face it, just there's so much
Speaker 1: proof out there. You know, we are we are you know,
Speaker 1: yo Yo's on the end of your string in romantic relationships,
Speaker 1: and and I think that's it. I think that was
Speaker 1: a situation where Suki just decided as soon as she
Speaker 1: heard this, like she knew his lease was coming up.
Speaker 1: That's what she talked about. The blue house across the
Speaker 1: street in the daytime. Well, you don't want to look
Speaker 1: out your window during the daytime. But she was messing
Speaker 1: with him, she was messing with his head. I did
Speaker 1: not see that. I'm not totally sure I'm right, But
Speaker 1: I love when he says we should get married and
Speaker 1: she says, are you pregnant? That was my favorite line
Speaker 1: of the episode. My favorite line I'm telling you that
Speaker 1: here anyway, I interrupted, Danielle, go ahead, sorry, No, that
Speaker 1: was it, the Suki and Jackson storyline. Really, I lived
Speaker 1: for it. That was what I wanted to happen, and
Speaker 1: it happened just the way I wanted to. So, Riley, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I got my eyes filled with tears did anyone else?
Speaker 1: I absolutely love this episode two. It gave all the
Speaker 1: oddities and the weird little visuals that Stars Hollow gives,
Speaker 1: like the whole van a white of baskets, like did
Speaker 1: you see how white her teeth were? And she was
Speaker 1: just presenting the baskets like. All the visuals that you
Speaker 1: want from Gilmore Girls was in this episode. And I
Speaker 1: have to say I agree with Scott on the Suki thing.
Speaker 1: I think she was trying, but I think she was
Speaker 1: playing dumb so that she could be the chill, cool girl,
Speaker 1: like she didn't want to seem like she wanted to
Speaker 1: move in with Jackson and be cleany, Like maybe she
Speaker 1: just wanted to play it down and be dumb about
Speaker 1: it so that she didn't seem like she really wanted
Speaker 1: to move in with Jackson. Wow. Another I'm going to
Speaker 1: give that a thumbs up. Yeah, I think that she has.
Speaker 1: She wants to trust her man enough to make that commitment.
Speaker 1: That's a big deal for her, you know, that's a
Speaker 1: huge deal for her. So I think she played it
Speaker 1: beautifully and I think she just toyed with I think
Speaker 1: Suki was just this is how I'm going to play this.
Speaker 1: This is my guy, and if he doesn't come through,
Speaker 1: it doesn't come through, and it's gonna make me feel bad.
Speaker 1: But I'm gonna and my ground and I'm going to
Speaker 1: force the issue here and here's the perfect situation where
Speaker 1: she can get him starting to get a little more
Speaker 1: convinced what has happened. What she says, she didn't notice
Speaker 1: how down he was when he walked away that first time.
Speaker 1: Remember they were outside the talking next to the gazebo,
Speaker 1: and then he walked away when she didn't get it.
Speaker 1: She just didn't get it. And she gets things. She's
Speaker 1: in tune. She's especially in tune with him, you know.
Speaker 1: And let's look at all the times that she she
Speaker 1: got what was going on between Rory and Laurelai without
Speaker 1: having to be cute. Right, she sent gone, But now
Speaker 1: she's in tune man, and she feels her loved ones.
Speaker 1: She feels him. She knows, you know, she knew exactly
Speaker 1: what he was going through. She put him through it.
Speaker 1: She was hoping to get a elch. I think she
Speaker 1: was surprised that she got the proposal, but very pleased.
Speaker 1: She played it beautifully. She played that guy like a fiddle. Wow. Okay,
Speaker 1: So before we get into the two most important things
Speaker 1: to me, which are Luca Lorelei and Jesse Rory, can
Speaker 1: we talk about Lane. I want to know what y'all
Speaker 1: thought of Lane's guy debacle and the really explosive fight
Speaker 1: with Mrs Kimp and I was very explosive. That was
Speaker 1: very explosive. Um gosh, so much to unpack here. I
Speaker 1: didn't care for it. I didn't you know why? You
Speaker 1: know what was on the nose? For me? It was
Speaker 1: because why Okay, logically for me, it didn't. It didn't skew.
Speaker 1: Because this kid's Korean. He's going to be a doctor.
Speaker 1: He's super smart, he's super polite, he's super cute, he's
Speaker 1: super he's everything. Why wouldn't Lane tell her mother about him?
Speaker 1: There's nothing to fear. This is Henry Show is the
Speaker 1: ticket to Lane's freedom from the chains that her mother
Speaker 1: has bound her. In. Why wouldn't she use that to
Speaker 1: unlock herself? She likes the guy, I mean, they're they
Speaker 1: really like each other, and she's sneaking around. It didn't
Speaker 1: make any sense to me. Use him. He's your Trump card,
Speaker 1: go get out of prison. This is your kid of
Speaker 1: jail free card. Why are you hiding it? And and
Speaker 1: he was a percent right, So I it's just like
Speaker 1: logically for me, I just didn't understand. She's a smart girl.
Speaker 1: She's Lane's supposed to be a smart girl. Right, here's
Speaker 1: your freedom. That's all. That's all they ever talked about
Speaker 1: through the through through the episode, through the series so
Speaker 1: far is how inappropriate everybody is. And you know, she
Speaker 1: doesn't want a crazy American boy, and it has to
Speaker 1: be Korean doctor. That's all My mother wants Korean doctor,
Speaker 1: Korean doct here. Well here he is? What what what's
Speaker 1: the problem? Was she so afraid? Was she so afraid
Speaker 1: that her mother would reject even him? Because I don't know,
Speaker 1: maybe maybe Mrs Kim says, uh, you know, he's not
Speaker 1: he wasn't born in Korea, so he's no good. He
Speaker 1: has to be born you know, Is there another level
Speaker 1: of of of restrictions placed on Lane. I didn't understand it.
Speaker 1: It didn't it didn't ring true for me. Sorry, Yeah,
Speaker 1: so painful. It's almost like Lane sabotaged herself because she
Speaker 1: should have You're right, like she should have just told
Speaker 1: her mom and then she could be at the prom
Speaker 1: with this cute, great guy. The mom once she finally
Speaker 1: tells Mrs Kim, Mrs Kim's like, there's a lot there
Speaker 1: because that fight was brutal. I think she's maybe she
Speaker 1: was just so afraid of her mother that she just
Speaker 1: didn't want to bring it up. She didn't want her
Speaker 1: mother to ruin yet another good situation for her, you know,
Speaker 1: and her you know, or in her sixteen year old
Speaker 1: heart has been broken too many times to trust that woman. Um,
Speaker 1: and here's the perfect guy and my mom's going to
Speaker 1: find something wrong with him and she's going to rip
Speaker 1: it apart and I can't take anither. So maybe that
Speaker 1: maybe we have some progress too, because maybe this had
Speaker 1: that blow up for us to not just have this
Speaker 1: redundancy every episode. Maybe there will be a change in
Speaker 1: their relationship because of that. I felt really bad for her,
Speaker 1: But the logic part of it was like m hmm,
Speaker 1: But maybe I'm just applying too much. No, I actually
Speaker 1: think you nailed it. I think I have no argument
Speaker 1: because I agree with you. But you have to liken
Speaker 1: her situation to somebody who's living in, you know, somewhat
Speaker 1: of a prison. So there's this fear right of your jailer.
Speaker 1: It's this and and you don't want to provoke them,
Speaker 1: and you and you don't trust them, and it's so
Speaker 1: dysfunctional and so damaging that I guess she got to
Speaker 1: the point where she's now she's making bad decisions with
Speaker 1: her life. So maybe that's the lesson. Yeah, yeah, because
Speaker 1: it's heartbreaking that someone else to the prom right. You're like,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, that hurt. That hurt. Yeah, Wow, that hurt.
Speaker 1: I felt for her. I really felt scene with her, though,
Speaker 1: I like we felt like we had That was like
Speaker 1: some good, meaty stuff for Lane that we don't always get.
Speaker 1: I forgot to mention how cute the kiss. I'm going back,
Speaker 1: and I'm sorry. I forgot to mention that kiss between
Speaker 1: Suki and Jackson when he dips her. That was so good. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And would that be directed or is that just them
Speaker 1: just in the moment nailing that kiss. I got a
Speaker 1: little jealous. It's all the romance you're not getting from
Speaker 1: Luke and Laurel, and those two are providing it in spades.
Speaker 1: It was a wonderful arc. It really was very well
Speaker 1: structured well, I think Luke and LORELEI That's why one
Speaker 1: of the reasons I love this episode because it has
Speaker 1: two favorite couples making progress. Luca morel jessin Rory. What
Speaker 1: did you think of the basket that she comes running
Speaker 1: to him? And I gotta tell you, I I watched
Speaker 1: that's the scene and the diner, and then the scene
Speaker 1: and the picnic between those two and with Luca lore
Speaker 1: La and I just you know, I miss working with her.
Speaker 1: I thought we were great together. I thought that was
Speaker 1: just magic. I really thought it was funny. And I mean,
Speaker 1: how else I don't know how I got away with
Speaker 1: being so uh, I don't know, just just such a
Speaker 1: hard as awesome. But I mean it's so weird. I know,
Speaker 1: I have to tell you this all the time, But like,
Speaker 1: I love Luke so much. I think that's one of
Speaker 1: the reasons because I really kind of dug that attitude.
Speaker 1: You don't see that that attitude is so misplaced in
Speaker 1: that show. It's like what what I mean. It's like
Speaker 1: it's almost reaching Yanique levels of of sarcasm and and so,
Speaker 1: but with such a sweetness and like even though he's
Speaker 1: gruff about it, he always comes to her rescue. He
Speaker 1: always saves the day, and he's always so cool about it.
Speaker 1: But it was why he's never right gooey or uey,
Speaker 1: he's right, and and it's just I just was surprised
Speaker 1: that all of the resistance, like I'm not participating in
Speaker 1: this ridiculous thing, Taylor. You know, It's like it was funny.
Speaker 1: I really enjoyed watching it because I didn't expect it.
Speaker 1: I just didn't expect it, and I didn't expect how
Speaker 1: Luke was at the picnic and she started getting all
Speaker 1: mooney with me a little bit. Well, it's she defined
Speaker 1: what the whole exercise was just and you know, he
Speaker 1: knew what he was saying to her. She was romancing him.
Speaker 1: She was telling him that she has a crush on
Speaker 1: him and that she's in love with him. She's basically
Speaker 1: saying that. That's how I read it. So it was
Speaker 1: like this complete reversal, and it was not like episodes before.
Speaker 1: It's like my friend, my friend, and she's not no.
Speaker 1: I mean, we're just friends and this kind of thing.
Speaker 1: But now suddenly during Justice and Tasket, she I think
Speaker 1: she she kind of owned her feelings a little bit
Speaker 1: and opened up to him in the gazebo. I agree, Oh,
Speaker 1: I just think he handles it so well. He does
Speaker 1: prodressed with these two couples that are developing, right, And
Speaker 1: I love it because, like, look, those two guys weren't
Speaker 1: like trolls that were bidding on her basket. They weren't
Speaker 1: like so terrible that if she really wanted to like
Speaker 1: meet somebody, she could just trust Patty and try one
Speaker 1: of those dudes. But instead she goes running running Luke, Luke,
Speaker 1: you have to save me, to save me, help me
Speaker 1: buy my basket. And it's just like yeah, because that's
Speaker 1: a dude you like. Girl. I was very charming. I
Speaker 1: thought she was very charming in that scene, and I
Speaker 1: thought that you I just really it was. It was
Speaker 1: my favorite, uh so far, my favorite Luke and Laurel
Speaker 1: I scene, that gazebo scene. I love that scene. Liked it. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I just I really enjoyed it. I really did. No Paris, Yea,
Speaker 1: there was no there was no insanity in the episode,
Speaker 1: and and let's talk about that. She started out really
Speaker 1: cool and to you know, really um this predator. She
Speaker 1: leaned in and she she quoted Shakespeare's Sonnet and it
Speaker 1: was like, oh wow, and now look at her. I mean,
Speaker 1: so it starts out heavy and then it becomes a cartoon. Anyway,
Speaker 1: So what everybody think about the soon to be super couple.
Speaker 1: It's so obvious that Rory and Jess Danielle, what do
Speaker 1: you think? I'm just so biased because I'm such a
Speaker 1: Milo fan, Like it's actually embarrassing. So like actually like
Speaker 1: seeing him younger, I'm like, oh my god, yes, Rory,
Speaker 1: go go go. I like you watch him and you
Speaker 1: like kind of smirk, like you smirk with him, like
Speaker 1: oh he said, oh he's doing that. I love it.
Speaker 1: I love it. And I mean I wasn't the biggest
Speaker 1: Dean fan from the beginning, so I'm with everybody like,
Speaker 1: go go get her, get her. Yeah say that to Dean. Well,
Speaker 1: it's just it's just such a stark contrast between how
Speaker 1: relaxed Jesse is and how cool and comfident is its
Speaker 1: opposed to Dean. And it's just kind of hard. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's not hard to imagine why you know, in that
Speaker 1: they gave us. What I love about this episode is
Speaker 1: they gave us that entire process from Rory transitioning from
Speaker 1: from Dean to Milo, and it was gradual. It happened
Speaker 1: in one episode. Actually didn't have it happened over a
Speaker 1: bunch of episodes, but it really happened here, and it
Speaker 1: took a fight between mom and daughter for a whole
Speaker 1: week they were talking to each other. Dean came to you,
Speaker 1: what what you guys are talking about? What my situation?
Speaker 1: What I mean, there's nothing creepier than that for for
Speaker 1: a young girl to hear. I mean, that's like the
Speaker 1: death of that relationship is the fact that he went
Speaker 1: to her mom. Yeah, I think it was brilliant. And
Speaker 1: I know I'm so repetitive because I've said this for
Speaker 1: so many weeks, but man, it took like like strength
Speaker 1: for them to not just shove Milo in our face
Speaker 1: right away because he was so brilliant. It's everyone behind
Speaker 1: the scenes obviously into this guy's brilliant. But that's why
Speaker 1: I kept saying, like God, they would just sprinkle him
Speaker 1: in one cool scene, one little line. For weeks, We've
Speaker 1: been just going I mean, there was episodes. There were
Speaker 1: episodes he wasn't even in and you're like, what he's like,
Speaker 1: he's in the in the show credits? Where is he?
Speaker 1: And it's because we had to wait a little bit,
Speaker 1: like we had to want it more. Yeah, it's uh.
Speaker 1: I mean I don't know if he might be the
Speaker 1: best character in that show in terms of how well
Speaker 1: they set him up. I mean they are setting him
Speaker 1: up for a career. I mean he's getting a career
Speaker 1: out of this because he's the guy that comes in
Speaker 1: and just blows the lid off the place in a
Speaker 1: couple of scenes here and there by being a super
Speaker 1: cool guy. I mean talk about just wow, what a
Speaker 1: great what a great role. I love how Jess is
Speaker 1: so cool, he's so smart with all the references that
Speaker 1: Rory gets, but he's also hilarious. He's like, oh, Dean,
Speaker 1: he's so tall, he's so tall and mad. But then
Speaker 1: we also see how much he loves Rory because he
Speaker 1: bites right into that gross bowl. Was that tuna fish?
Speaker 1: I don't know, did you did you pick up on
Speaker 1: when Rory was like a Dean would have fallen for that?
Speaker 1: I was like, did someone say Dean's an idiot? Who
Speaker 1: said that? Or did I say Dean's an idiot? My notes?
Speaker 1: I wrote Dean's an idiots an idiot. He's just a
Speaker 1: young kid and he's not able to listen obviously. You know,
Speaker 1: when you're in your first love triangle as a teen,
Speaker 1: you know that's a that's a rough one. How do
Speaker 1: you respond to that? You know, love that you bring
Speaker 1: up love triangle because that is sure what we've got
Speaker 1: going on. Yeah, it's it's but I you know, there
Speaker 1: ain't so much love anymore on one side of that
Speaker 1: try and goal, and it's going on in transferred to
Speaker 1: the other side. You know, let's let's reverse the roles.
Speaker 1: Let's say you know, Milo got the Dean part and
Speaker 1: and Jared got the Jess part. How would that play out?
Speaker 1: Can you see Milo is becoming unhinged and the and
Speaker 1: the tall, handsome, cool, collected Jess shows up in the
Speaker 1: form of Jared Paddle? Icky? Could have worked? If they
Speaker 1: if they reverse roles? Could it? Could it have worked?
Speaker 1: You still would have rooted for for Milo is Dean.
Speaker 1: I just think there's I think Jared is Dean, which
Speaker 1: is great, but Milo is Jess? Like, but how do
Speaker 1: you just do okay, So you get Jared paddle Icky,
Speaker 1: which is a home run. He's seventeen, he's tall, tall,
Speaker 1: drink of water, He's got the perfect model face, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. It's like girls all over the country,
Speaker 1: You're gonna fall in love with this. Guys to c
Speaker 1: W it's their demo. How are you going to do
Speaker 1: better than that? How are you going to do better
Speaker 1: than that? And then you know, you get that gig
Speaker 1: and you're Dean and you're feeling all good about yourself
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, bub boom, a Milow
Speaker 1: comes along and blows you out of the water. Who
Speaker 1: Nobody's that's the best part because Dean is so tall,
Speaker 1: and he is so handsome and a tall drink of water,
Speaker 1: and you never expect him to go unhinged, right, But
Speaker 1: Milow is a little more scrappy and a little more
Speaker 1: like mysterious and cool, and and just the juxtaposition of
Speaker 1: the two of them, you will always go from my
Speaker 1: list because he's not the obvious choice. I don't know.
Speaker 1: Wait a minute, but now we have an example from
Speaker 1: the very first episode, I think from the pilot, when
Speaker 1: we when did we meet Dean in the hallways, she
Speaker 1: drops a book and they're super cool. Dean mysterious guy,
Speaker 1: handsome guy, tall, drink of water, making a comment, being
Speaker 1: super cool, being super noncommittal, throwing away his lines. Whatever.
Speaker 1: You know, he was, he was, Jess in the beginning, Yes,
Speaker 1: he was. You're right, and he even made a reference
Speaker 1: to literature. I think right, absolutely, he was capable of
Speaker 1: communicating with her on that level. So he was wow, right,
Speaker 1: he had that wow factor coming in And now look,
Speaker 1: that's fair. He's grumbling to mommy, WHOA, that is fair?
Speaker 1: But man, do I sure, Jess? It's because that character,
Speaker 1: that character in the writer's room, they wrecked them the right. Obviously,
Speaker 1: they know how to write cool. They know how to
Speaker 1: write to make people cool, and now they're just writing
Speaker 1: to make mylow cool. Did Rory's confidence break down Dean's
Speaker 1: confidence over time? I think, you know what, I think
Speaker 1: you're right. I think that's a very salient point. I
Speaker 1: think that her I think what Rory brings to the
Speaker 1: table is a backbone, and she brings her mother's backbone,
Speaker 1: which means she is bringing Emily's backbone. These are people
Speaker 1: that don't back down, and that is a very strong
Speaker 1: grounded Rory. She's she's not a flighty wacko. You know,
Speaker 1: she's this rounded, serious student. She's going to the Ivy League.
Speaker 1: She's you know, academically gifted um and a cerebral kid.
Speaker 1: And she's even more psychologically orientated than most people her
Speaker 1: age and understands, you know, all of these subtleties psychologically
Speaker 1: speaking that only you know that that an adult would understand.
Speaker 1: She's sixteen, so she's grown up pretty quickly. So I
Speaker 1: agree with you there. I think I always thought that
Speaker 1: there was an imbalance. She was far more mature, too
Speaker 1: sophisticated and and and too mature for Dean. Yeah. Yeah, Well,
Speaker 1: speaking of what you're saying, how about reverse psychology as
Speaker 1: the reason that Lorelai sort of okay is Jess and
Speaker 1: Rory because Emily is so first lauraize like no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: there's not happening. That guy's not that's guy's not good
Speaker 1: stip of Dean. Then Emily is like, you're right, lorea lie,
Speaker 1: you need to forbid her blah blah, and all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, loyalized like has this Oh my god, this
Speaker 1: is my life. So she goes to Rory and says,
Speaker 1: I trust you, like if you like this kid, you
Speaker 1: do you? I trust you? So, like you're saying, it
Speaker 1: is all this psychological stuff and the issues run deep,
Speaker 1: hence highlighting the uniqueness of that relationship between mother and daughter.
Speaker 1: Makes it so special that that Laurel I is mature
Speaker 1: enough and knows her daughter enough and trust her enough. Um.
Speaker 1: You know, yeah, she had a weak moment with with
Speaker 1: with Jess because she had a very bad encounter initially
Speaker 1: with with Jess. And I don't blame her. I mean
Speaker 1: that lack of um empathy and the lack of you know,
Speaker 1: social engagement skills on Jess is alarming to a parent.
Speaker 1: I mean, you wouldn't want that around your kid, you know.
Speaker 1: So I completely understand her, you know, making that misstep
Speaker 1: according to uh Rory. Um, but that really did display
Speaker 1: the uniqueness of the relationship and how mature uh Rory
Speaker 1: was and how she earned that trust. And Mom, you're
Speaker 1: going off the rails here, what's wrong with you? You
Speaker 1: don't you have to trust me because I'm your daughter,
Speaker 1: because you raised me to be this way independent And
Speaker 1: I like all how that played out there. It is
Speaker 1: it was it was kind of funny at first, I
Speaker 1: thought that's a little mean to Emily, but you know,
Speaker 1: I agree with you. One. Then the last couple of
Speaker 1: lines of that scene when they're leaving Richard's study is
Speaker 1: uh uh yeah, mom, Mom agreed with Oh I'm sorry, Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm fine. So then what do you think I mean?
Speaker 1: For me? This was the ultimate, brilliant, ultimate last scene
Speaker 1: when Rory goes home, goes into the bedroom, calls and
Speaker 1: we're like, who's she calling? Yes, brilliant. There's Jeff holding
Speaker 1: the bracelet, reading the book and they have this moment
Speaker 1: where you're like, wow, this these two genuinely totally like
Speaker 1: each other. Let me tell you something. The Vegas the
Speaker 1: Vegas odds on her calling Dean, We're not it didn't exist.
Speaker 1: I mean, it was a billion to one. I mean,
Speaker 1: if you were, if you were putting money down on Jess,
Speaker 1: you did very well on that one because you knew
Speaker 1: she was calling Jess. And did everybody love it like
Speaker 1: I did? And I loved it like their conversation and
Speaker 1: he was is It's the first time I've seen him
Speaker 1: really light up because he wasn't with her, so he
Speaker 1: could glow a little bit, and he was excited. He
Speaker 1: was so turned on and he was so happy and
Speaker 1: I've never seen him like that and that was the
Speaker 1: first time. And he's like and when he said I'm
Speaker 1: gonna hold you that, there was so much hope and
Speaker 1: longing and love and that statement I'm going to hold
Speaker 1: you to that And because he knew he had her now,
Speaker 1: or he had at least he had a chance, you know,
Speaker 1: he was he was going to get a second chance.
Speaker 1: So that's exciting for a young guy. If that's exciting
Speaker 1: for anybody to feel in you know, when when you
Speaker 1: don't have to pine any longer for your beloved and
Speaker 1: it's just that, Yeah, that's so well said. That's probably
Speaker 1: why we love the scene so much. As you're like,
Speaker 1: you've got all this hold and then you're like, okay,
Speaker 1: we've all experience arans that and the crushing defeat when
Speaker 1: it's not reciprocated right when it's unrequiteted, and it's just
Speaker 1: like good, Okay. So I have a debate topic for everybody. Okay,
Speaker 1: should Rory have gone and eating lunch with Jess? No,
Speaker 1: that's just automatically proves she ain't in dedeaned that much.
Speaker 1: He was right, and he was just defiably disturbed by that.
Speaker 1: There is not a chance. I mean, seeing how naked,
Speaker 1: how obvious, how naked jess aggression was to get that. See,
Speaker 1: that's the primordial thing and guys love it and girls
Speaker 1: love it. And when you make a move even it
Speaker 1: can be incredibly embarrassing and inappropriate and to public and
Speaker 1: how dare you? And you deserve to get your ass
Speaker 1: kicked for doing something like that. If that happens to
Speaker 1: a guy, they secretly like it. They like being desired.
Speaker 1: People like being desired. They just do. And if it's
Speaker 1: so direct and forceful in that way, you know that's intriguing.
Speaker 1: It is it just is. It's human nature. So Jess
Speaker 1: is a sharp cookie, you know he understands Whoman nature,
Speaker 1: maybe a little better than Dean. Yeah, I'm glad she went,
Speaker 1: but you're right, like it was kind of like a
Speaker 1: rough move, like like like like a really solid girlfriend
Speaker 1: ain't going on that thing, right, And she's like, it's traditions,
Speaker 1: it's the rule. No, no, no, it doesn't violate girlfriend
Speaker 1: guy guy girlfriend boyfriend rules. Sorry, that's a stronger. Bondboy's
Speaker 1: writing to check Jackson's writing a check to get that
Speaker 1: basketback from Kurt yes, exactly, that's what you do. You
Speaker 1: write a check and say move along, now bye bye.
Speaker 1: At that point, did did he go to the mother yet? No,
Speaker 1: that was pretty He decides she's going to go to
Speaker 1: the lunch and then while they're on the bridge. But
Speaker 1: from Rory, I'm looking at Dean going, dude, figure something out.
Speaker 1: That's a lot cooler to get rid of him, instead
Speaker 1: of like, you know, yelling at me about it. You
Speaker 1: know what I mean, It's like, be cool, like do
Speaker 1: something slick, do something like that by just be like,
Speaker 1: enjoy your gross tune. Either that and walk away right
Speaker 1: and put that lump in her stocking, or or just say, hey, guy, uh,
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. H I'll give you two hundred bucks.
Speaker 1: I'll give you five bucks, and if you guys still
Speaker 1: want to go out, I'll drive you and be your
Speaker 1: show for how's that? But today I'm gonna be with
Speaker 1: my girl. Bye bye. Right. The move would have been
Speaker 1: something either that or he just goes all right, you
Speaker 1: do you Rory? Go with this? I I mean, he
Speaker 1: clearly doesn't have five Yeah, there were ways Dean could
Speaker 1: have played it. Yeah, I mean I love The whole
Speaker 1: episode to me is just like the best perfect episode. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but Jared. You know, Jared did okay with his career,
Speaker 1: didn't He just nice little launching pad for him, right,
Speaker 1: I mean, I think they did fifteen seasons on Supernatural.
Speaker 1: Can you imagine to a fifteen seasons of a show?
Speaker 1: Do you think Gilmore Girls fans are serious? Those Supernatural fans?
Speaker 1: Plus conventions, those guys did conventions. They had a company
Speaker 1: representing them just to do Supernatural conventions. I mean they
Speaker 1: were massive, major events. Yeah. I love both those boys,
Speaker 1: Jared and Jensen. Wait, I kind of have exciting announcement
Speaker 1: because we're running out of time, so we will do
Speaker 1: a special episode this week on starring starring Riley. Come on,
Speaker 1: that is just pop culture. Because there's so much pop
Speaker 1: culture in this we don't want to like squish it
Speaker 1: here in the last two seconds. So that's it. No,
Speaker 1: everybody's out, it's just her. No, we'll be here'll be
Speaker 1: it'll be her shining moment. You'll be here, We'll all
Speaker 1: be here, but we'll just let her really shine. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I don't say anything anymore, but I see your reviews, everybody.
Speaker 1: I see your reviews telling me to pipe down and
Speaker 1: to shut up and not to let Riley, So I'm
Speaker 1: gonna take I We read those reviews and we take
Speaker 1: them to heart. So we're gonna give Riley her own
Speaker 1: pop culture episode this week. Thank you all so much.
Speaker 1: I'd like to thank the Academy. I'd like to thank
Speaker 1: my fans. You know, I'm not perfect, but everybody's here
Speaker 1: to help, So thank you. Know I'm perfect but improving.
Speaker 1: So we throw our favorite lines in though before we go,
Speaker 1: let's do it. Sold to the nice young hubum in
Speaker 1: the back. Yeah, you like that one? Huh? Then are
Speaker 1: you pregnant? That's my favorite. He's so tall and mad
Speaker 1: minds from Jess said. He says, I'm sorry about that.
Speaker 1: You want to push me in the lake. It's cathartic.
Speaker 1: I hear, very nice wrap around for I don't know,
Speaker 1: give me a favorite that. There was so many, I
Speaker 1: don't even know what about when someone When Rory sang
Speaker 1: to Dean, it's a waste of energy, like stop fighting
Speaker 1: with you know, stop stop fighting with Jess. It's a
Speaker 1: waste of energy. And he goes, I'll have a power bar,
Speaker 1: like I'm going to keep at this gals in power bar.
Speaker 1: I think my favorite line was the the little you
Speaker 1: know when they were leaving Richard Study and my mom
Speaker 1: said she gree with oh I'm sorry. Yeah, okay, Yeah
Speaker 1: that was it. That was for me the biggest laugh
Speaker 1: out of ten Riley. Yeah, I got its big thumbs
Speaker 1: up for me, had that real Gilmore feelings community or
Speaker 1: the characters win it. But a wonderful episode. Just a
Speaker 1: wonderful episode all the way around. Performances were a plus
Speaker 1: all the way around. Uh. It just for me. It
Speaker 1: had the spirit and the lightness and the communal aspect
Speaker 1: of what what Gilmore Girls has to offer. And I
Speaker 1: think the more of the town participates and it becomes
Speaker 1: that communal thing, and the better that show is, um
Speaker 1: because it's in the town and everybody's involved. I wanted
Speaker 1: to see miss Patty. I mean, I'm sorry, I wanted
Speaker 1: and Miss Patty was great in this and liszt Tours
Speaker 1: was great and yeah, um she had some great lines too,
Speaker 1: you know, but you can't you can't handle it on
Speaker 1: your own, dear. It's like she's such a disaster and
Speaker 1: poor yeahs to Kirk in this episode two he had
Speaker 1: some great stuff. Taylor Taylor, absolutely, but there was no Batte.
Speaker 1: Imagine Bette where was the best? She was probably working,
Speaker 1: she's she's busy, at least she was. Alright, guys, So
Speaker 1: so we're gonna do stay tuned yet. We're gonna, yes
Speaker 1: a stay tuned because we're gonna do a separate episode
Speaker 1: with starring Riley Pelusis as the pop culture maven of
Speaker 1: the New Millennia. Okay, so here we go. All right, Amy,
Speaker 1: are we going to produce our show on definitely? Okay,
Speaker 1: you're gonna definitely? Or am I getting kicked to the
Speaker 1: curb like you have nothing doing? All right, everybody that's
Speaker 1: gonna wrap up a tisket a tasket. Wonderful episode? What
Speaker 1: number was this? Thirteen twelve? What was it? Season two episode? Boy,
Speaker 1: we're motoring through. We're more than halfway through season two. Boy,
Speaker 1: time flies when you're having fun. Um, it really does,
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