1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:03,160 Speaker 1: I thought my new boss was super handsome before I 2 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:04,279 Speaker 1: found out he's. 3 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:10,800 Speaker 2: My dad Dad Dad day Sam only lets me call 4 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:11,720 Speaker 2: him daddy. 5 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:16,600 Speaker 1: He's ddee. I'd like to start the stream. I twenty 6 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:20,280 Speaker 1: two female. I've been working since I was sixteen, hard worker, 7 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:23,960 Speaker 1: even throughout college, and I've been diligently moving towards finally 8 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 1: getting what is basically a dream job for me. I 9 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 1: work for a small business of about fifty people, and 10 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 1: my boss, Ron, fifty five male, the owner, is very involved. 11 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 2: And I want to be involved with him. Ew. 12 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:42,280 Speaker 1: By the way, this comes from easy Rest eighty fifty 13 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 1: one on the r slash Okay storytime sub. 14 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 2: Reddits rest in Ron's lap ew. 15 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 1: When I first met him, I was struck by what 16 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 1: a handsome older man he was, and we immediately clicked 17 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 1: even during the interview process. When we spoke, I just 18 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 1: thought he had a good vibe, and especially in combination 19 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 1: with the positive and laid back culture of the company, 20 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:06,119 Speaker 1: I was glad to start up my job. 21 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 2: Okay, how old is Hold. 22 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 1: Twenty two and Ron is fifty five? 23 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 2: Dang, that's an age gap. 24 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 1: He's old enough to be her dad. Anyway, I was 25 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:20,959 Speaker 1: talking about my job with my sister Luna seventeen, female, 26 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 1: and she said, my boss was handsome. All the daughters 27 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 1: through I was handsome. 28 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 2: I mean, he's a man in power, a fox, silver fox. 29 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 1: I actually agreed with her. When we were looking at 30 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 1: some pictures of my workplace and the social media accounts 31 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 1: of Ron and my coworkers. At that point, my mom 32 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 1: forty five female, noticed and came over curious to have 33 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 1: a look. I showed her the picture of Ron, and 34 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 1: she paused. She looked more closely. She asked me his name, 35 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 1: and I told her and showed it to her. She paused. 36 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 1: She looked at me and she said, that's your father. 37 00:01:57,000 --> 00:02:03,560 Speaker 2: Ah what? Whoa dude? Whoa? That's some Star Wars kind 38 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 2: of stuff. 39 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 3: How like us? 40 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 1: How she didn't like color before? How was this just 41 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 1: coming out right? 42 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:14,079 Speaker 2: She wanted her to first be like sexually attracted to 43 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 2: him and then bring out bring out the truth, just 44 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 2: like she did, Just like she did. She wanted her 45 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:25,679 Speaker 2: to have the same experience. That's so weird. Imagine crushing 46 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:26,360 Speaker 2: on your dad. 47 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 1: That's so weird. I just don't understand how if she 48 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 1: knew who he was, why did she keep it from 49 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:33,799 Speaker 1: him or creep it. 50 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 2: From hope again wanted her to crush on him first. 51 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 1: Yayh yeah yi ohny type. She paused again. She looked 52 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 1: at me and she said, that's your father. I was 53 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 1: obviously shocked, and I was also squewked, squawked, squiked, squigged 54 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 1: out about having thought he was handsome. 55 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 2: I would be squigged out too. 56 00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 1: I asked my mom if she could confirm, and she said, yes, 57 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 1: that's definitely him. I have known since I was young 58 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 1: that my father, fifty male who had raised me, was 59 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:08,920 Speaker 1: not my bio dad. Okay, okay, my parents had some 60 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 1: mutual infidelity issues early in the relationship. 61 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 2: Mutual infidelity issues. That is such a corporate way of 62 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:17,519 Speaker 2: saying they were cheating on each other. Crazy. 63 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 1: My mother never told me who my real father was, though, 64 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 1: and said he was just a one night stand. He 65 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 1: said that she didn't actually even know his name, just 66 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 1: a shortened version of his first name. His name is Ron. 67 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:32,400 Speaker 1: Oh maybe it's a big I don't know. I feel 68 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 1: like you can make some assumptions. She was like, I 69 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 1: didn't even know his full name, just Ron. What could 70 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 1: that possibly stand for? 71 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 3: This n that's his real name. 72 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 1: She instantly recognized him even twenty years later, and she 73 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 1: said that that the name can't be a coincidence. She 74 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 1: told my dad that I ended up working for my 75 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 1: bio dad and that neither of us knew. My dad 76 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 1: said that it doesn't change anything, and he reassured me 77 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:00,160 Speaker 1: that I am still his daughter, and he said that 78 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 1: I probably shouldn't say anything unless I just really really 79 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 1: need to have that kind of connection with my biological father. 80 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 1: I actually pretty much agree with him. Okay, now we're 81 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 1: on track, guys. 82 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 2: By my conspiracy theory is Ron is going to start 83 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 2: flirting Ree, which would be terrible. I hope it doesn't happen. 84 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:23,599 Speaker 2: You would be very yuck. Game of Thrones act with 85 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 2: that or not. 86 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 1: My sister thinks I would be crazy not to cash 87 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 1: in on this, and she thinks that I should absolutely 88 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 1: tell Ron that I'm his kid. My boss is extremely 89 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 1: financially successful, obviously, and he has a lot of broad 90 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 1: discretionary power at the company as the owner. My sister 91 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 1: thinks that I should go after him for money. Okay, 92 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:45,599 Speaker 1: your sister has kind of bad suggestions. 93 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 2: I mean, she is seventeen. 94 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 1: Well, that makes sense, or at least have him turn 95 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 1: my position into a cushy, do nothing, boss's daughter job wrong. 96 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:54,159 Speaker 1: Don't listen to your sister. 97 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:56,280 Speaker 2: This is terrible, terrible advice. 98 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 1: It's terrible advice, the worst advice I've heard. Believe it 99 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 1: or not. I'm actually proud of my accomplishments and having 100 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 1: earned what I have in life. 101 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:06,719 Speaker 2: I believe that that is a. 102 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:10,600 Speaker 1: Shocking Shockingly, I actually want this job, and I am 103 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 1: not eager to cash it in and take the promotion 104 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 1: to nepo baby. And that's even assuming he had a 105 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:18,840 Speaker 1: positive reaction at all. He seems like a really good guy. 106 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:21,919 Speaker 1: But it's totally possible that he could decide for legal 107 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 1: reasons that we need to be separated from each other 108 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:27,039 Speaker 1: and I could end up losing my job. 109 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:29,159 Speaker 2: But if he's like the owner of the company, does 110 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:32,840 Speaker 2: it matter that they're related? It could why, I don't know, 111 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 2: unless yeah, I guess if he has a boy. 112 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:36,840 Speaker 1: It'd be like, oh, you're biased now, yeah. 113 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 2: But if that's only it only matters if if there's 114 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 2: a board or like like investors, like no one can 115 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:44,599 Speaker 2: say I can't hire you. 116 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, she could take over succession. 117 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 2: Succession, Oh she could be. 118 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 1: What if he already has to the throne and then 119 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:55,479 Speaker 1: and then she comes in. She's like, actually, I'm. 120 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:57,280 Speaker 2: Your firstborn and then inheritance. Yea. 121 00:05:57,640 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 1: My parents and Luna have agreed not to try to 122 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:03,600 Speaker 1: contact him or to mention this to anybody, not even 123 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 1: our other siblings or family members. Back at work, I've 124 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 1: talked to Ron Moore, and he's actually pretty open about 125 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 1: his family and personal life. He's married, his wife is 126 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 1: in her mid late thirties. He has a couple of 127 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 1: daughters and a son. He says his oldest girl is fifteen, 128 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 1: and that a son, he's the youngest at ten. 129 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:23,280 Speaker 2: Your oldest girls twenty two. 130 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:27,719 Speaker 1: Wrong. One thing that was actually kind of encouraging was 131 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:31,039 Speaker 1: that he said he especially loves his daughters and totally 132 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 1: considers himself a girl. 133 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 2: That I ask who my son? 134 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 1: I hate my son? My ten year old son. 135 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 2: So that's like a weird thing to say, I especially 136 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:40,359 Speaker 2: love my daughter. 137 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's like, my son's fine. Yeah, my daughters are shick. 138 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 1: He's jill, and that he doesn't understand why some guys 139 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:50,920 Speaker 1: would want only sons. I am really really torn. Part 140 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:52,599 Speaker 1: of me thinks it could be hard to sit on 141 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 1: a secret like this, and I sort of want to 142 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 1: explore a relationship with Ron beyond being his weirdly friendly 143 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:01,920 Speaker 1: new high But part of me really doesn't want to 144 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:04,839 Speaker 1: rock the boat. This is a fantastic job that I 145 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:07,720 Speaker 1: was very lucky to get, with great pay, more than 146 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 1: I would have expected so soon out of college, and 147 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 1: a really good work culture slash benefits. If Ron responded coldly, 148 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 1: negatively legally, I could be absolutely screwing myself over. Even 149 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 1: if he responds positively, I would probably still be seen 150 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 1: at work as just the boss's daughter, and no one 151 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 1: would believe that I hadn't orchestrated all of this on purpose, 152 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 1: like some kind of gold digger or blackmailer. I actually 153 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 1: don't want him to feel like he can't be my boss, 154 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 1: or to stick me in a cause you do nothing 155 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 1: position as some sort of apology for not being in 156 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 1: my life. And how could he ever believe that I 157 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 1: didn't know already. And by the way, you can join 158 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 1: us live on YouTube every WEEKDA at three pm. 159 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 2: Just tap our profile real quick. 160 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 4: Sixty two percent of people say nah, do not tell, 161 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 4: do not tell, or do not connect. 162 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 2: If I was in this position, I would say I 163 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 2: would say something. I would say something. 164 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like he deserves to know. 165 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 2: He deserves to know, you deserve to tell him. 166 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 1: Have the opportunity to have a relationship like a father 167 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 1: daughter relationship. 168 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's perfect. He's a girl dad. He loves his. 169 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 1: Daughter especially, and that doesn't discredit the relationship you have 170 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 1: with your you know your other dad. 171 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 2: I say do it, I said, doe, dude, and tax 172 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 2: ride off. 173 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 4: You get up to six sat thousand. That's uh, not 174 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 4: taxed for the kids if they're a putty for loc 175 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 4: That's true. 176 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 1: Luda thinks I'm nuts for not going for it and 177 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 1: cashing in as hard as I can. But my parents 178 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 1: are more on my side. And even though my dad 179 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 1: hasn't said anything, I'm worried that he might feel threatened. 180 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:44,200 Speaker 1: I love him more than anything in the world. I've 181 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 1: always been a daddy's girl, and I never felt like 182 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:49,079 Speaker 1: I lacked a wonderful father. I would never want to 183 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 1: replace him. And to top it off, my boyfriend, twenty 184 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 1: six male, works for the company and he was a 185 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 1: key contact in getting me my position. I'm barely even 186 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 1: I barely even thought about how this might look on 187 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 1: him if things go one way or another. I don't 188 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:07,560 Speaker 1: have trouble holding things in confidence or keeping things private. 189 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure I probably could just sit on this 190 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 1: and never bring it up until maybe after Ron retires, 191 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:15,560 Speaker 1: if ever. But I don't know if that's what I 192 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 1: want to or should do. Should I have never, Should 193 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:20,840 Speaker 1: I never say anything? Should I keep it in my 194 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:23,480 Speaker 1: back pocket just in case? Would I be the A 195 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 1: hole if I just pretended I didn't know any of this. 196 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 2: I don't think you're the a hole for pretending you 197 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 2: don't know anything. But if you want to know, you can, 198 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 2: you can, you can, you can reach the cable. 199 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 1: If he seems like a nice guy, I don't think 200 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:40,599 Speaker 1: it will be as detrimental. 201 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:43,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, exactly. And I don't like if he's also 202 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:47,720 Speaker 2: like good at his job. He's not going to jeopardize No, 203 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 2: he's not going to do anything that would jeopardize your job. 204 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 1: Or I don't think so business or anything. 205 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:55,960 Speaker 2: So Dixie Blue Steel Saves just walk by and say 206 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 2: hey Daddy. 207 00:09:57,040 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 1: Hey Papa, boppy Papa. Let's get into this next story. 208 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 2: I took a DNA test and found out my dad 209 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 2: isn't my real dad. My mom wants me to keep 210 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 2: it a secret, so I forty one female found out 211 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 2: my mom sixty two female has been lying to me 212 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:21,720 Speaker 2: while my whole life about who my dad is. Wow. 213 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 2: By the way, this comes from black Cat Energy eighty 214 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:27,080 Speaker 2: three on the r slash Okay story Times I read it. 215 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:29,680 Speaker 2: So when I was fourteen, my mom admitted to me 216 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 2: that she was with someone else right before my dad. 217 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:36,079 Speaker 2: There was a chance he might not be my dad, 218 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 2: but I grew up looking like him, so she's sure 219 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:41,080 Speaker 2: I'm his. Oh, she said, she only told me this 220 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 2: because my sister, my aunt, kept talking about it, and 221 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:45,719 Speaker 2: there's a chance that could get back to. 222 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 1: Me, so she said, four us getting ahead of it. 223 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 2: My mom said my aunt was jealous of my mom 224 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 2: and wanted people to think she had two kids from 225 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 2: two different fathers. 226 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:55,960 Speaker 1: Well, anyway, it seems like she kind of it. 227 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 2: It seems like it's true. Fast forward to twenty nineteen. 228 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 2: I took a d ask for fun to see what 229 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 2: my background was. Results didn't really look like what I expected, 230 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 2: and I had two first cousins listed that I did 231 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:10,440 Speaker 2: not know. 232 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 1: Kind of wild that OP knew there was a possibility 233 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 1: that she had a different father. 234 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:18,960 Speaker 2: And just and just went after it, like when you 235 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 2: were like forty Yeah, I mean it was also because, 236 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 2: like I guess, she looked so much like her dad. 237 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:28,439 Speaker 2: I had my sister forty female take the test. After that, 238 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 2: he came back as a half sister. Oh and she 239 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 2: did not have that same first cousin. 240 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 1: Bluck duist block twist. 241 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 2: Eventually she calmed down and she gave me the name 242 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 2: of the other possible father. I looked him up on 243 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 2: Facebook and just knew it wasn't him. I never reached out. 244 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:51,560 Speaker 2: She got more angry when I told her that I 245 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 2: don't think it's either man, she said. She told me 246 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 2: that she was just with two men and there was 247 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:02,199 Speaker 2: no possible way it could be anyone else. 248 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:06,960 Speaker 1: I'm just so worried. Okay, but question, I'm thinking like 249 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:10,200 Speaker 1: conspiracy theory. Opie says that she looks a lot like 250 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 1: her dad. Does her dad have a brother? 251 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:16,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, a twin brother. Did you even know? Basically, Opie's 252 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 2: mom went ballistic, denied it. Said the DNA stuff is fake? 253 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 2: But is it actually fake? Is she a little nervous? 254 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 2: Now Here we are in twenty twenty four and I 255 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 2: was finally able to get in contact with one of 256 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:31,439 Speaker 2: the first cousins from the DNA results. She had an 257 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 2: uncle sixty two male who lived on the same street 258 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:38,680 Speaker 2: as my mom growing up. He remembers dating my mom 259 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 2: for a week and agreed to take a DNA test. 260 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:46,840 Speaker 2: Both first cousins are daughters of this man's sisters. 261 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 1: Get up to in that week a lot. 262 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 2: I guess, as even guessed. My mom was angry about 263 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 2: that too, and told me I was wasting my money 264 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 2: on the test because she never slept with him. Oh sure, 265 00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:03,080 Speaker 2: results her in. And this man is my father. He 266 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 2: had no idea I existed until now. He never had 267 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:08,439 Speaker 2: any children, and he's sad that he missed out in 268 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:11,720 Speaker 2: my life. He's hurt that his mother never got the 269 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 2: chance to meet his daughter before she passed. I'm filled 270 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 2: with so much anger towards my mom. Not only did 271 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 2: she lie to me, but I had to face so 272 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:23,560 Speaker 2: much resistance in gas lighting while on the journey to 273 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 2: find out who I really am. Dixie Blue Steele says 274 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 2: Mom is sleeping with everyone. 275 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:31,840 Speaker 1: I'm a little worried though, because she's so adamant that 276 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 1: she didn't. 277 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 2: I think she's just lying, I hope. So what also 278 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 2: hurts is the guy I grew up believing was my 279 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:41,199 Speaker 2: father wasn't a good dad. He caused me a lot 280 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:43,719 Speaker 2: of pain, and I walked down the aisle solo on 281 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 2: my wedding day. Some of his family also wasn't the 282 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:48,839 Speaker 2: best of me, and I guess I'm starting to figure 283 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 2: out why my biological father and I have been somewhat 284 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 2: in contact, and he seems like a very nice man. 285 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:57,720 Speaker 2: His whole family has all made me feel welcome the 286 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 2: second they found out. My mom, still well to this day, 287 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:04,600 Speaker 2: is denying that this man is my father. Even with 288 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:07,440 Speaker 2: all the proof I have, she denies he was ever 289 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 2: with him. I don't know how to carry on with 290 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:12,480 Speaker 2: all the anger I now have towards my mom. I 291 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 2: love her, but how do I get over this? I 292 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 2: finally feel some peace knowing the truth, but she's trying 293 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 2: to take that away from me. How do I get 294 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 2: her to stop denying it? And there is an update. 295 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 2: Dutchess Casana says, Mama is the town bicycle case said 296 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:28,360 Speaker 2: I'd be sad for mom if she was s eight 297 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 2: or something, and that's why it's so hush. 298 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 1: Okay, Either she's just a liar, or she truly doesn't 299 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 1: you know, really believes what she's saying, which I hope 300 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 1: that's not the case. 301 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 2: I feel like she would say that then, yeah, instead 302 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 2: of just denying it. A question for you guys and sofia, 303 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 2: how do I get her to finally stop denying it? 304 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 2: I'm wondering, like she's already been confronted with so much evidence. Yeah, 305 00:14:57,720 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 2: you know, like does op I. 306 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 1: Mean, if you've, like, if you haven't already give the 307 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:06,360 Speaker 1: DNA test. Here is the literal proof that this man 308 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 1: is my father. If your mom doesn't want to believe, 309 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 1: there's not really much you can do. 310 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean you can only you can only 311 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 2: showed her the truth so much. Yeah, but there is 312 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 2: an update. I forty one female found out for certain 313 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 2: in recent years that my dad is not my biological dad. 314 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 2: My not biological father has finally come out and admitted 315 00:15:27,280 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 2: he knew my mom was pregnant when they first started dating, 316 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:35,240 Speaker 2: but convinced himself and his family that he was the father. 317 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 2: When you first started dating, you knew that she was pregnant, 318 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 2: What did you think? Like you rubbed out a fast 319 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 2: one and it flew into her. So it's gotta be me, 320 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 2: gotta be me, gotta have been made. Not only are 321 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 2: my swimmer swimmers, they can fly to and they can overtake. 322 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 2: They can overtake. 323 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 3: They took over the egg. 324 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:55,760 Speaker 1: Someone's already in there. I got in there. 325 00:15:56,440 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 2: Boom boom, straight ahead, direct hit. Some His sisters were skeptical, 326 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 2: and I wasn't always treated the best and never really 327 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 2: felt like I fit into that family. My biological father 328 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 2: didn't seem to know I existed. My mom ghosted him 329 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 2: and started dating my dad. He will always be my dad. 330 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:18,520 Speaker 2: She did not know she was pregnant when she ghosted him. 331 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 2: She realized she was pregnant right before she started dating 332 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 2: my dad, and they just went along with it and 333 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 2: never told the biological father. Ah. She said she ghosted 334 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 2: him because he was weird, which to her means nerdy. 335 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 3: He just wanted to stop talking about Star Wars and start. 336 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 2: All do you prefer the bad boys, which is what 337 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 2: my dad was. They divorced when I was seven because 338 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:46,680 Speaker 2: he was abusive to my mom. He's a really bad boy. 339 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:50,480 Speaker 2: My mom kept custody and my dad would take us 340 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 2: when he wanted, but he wasn't often. He even left 341 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 2: me and my sister in the car downtown at night 342 00:16:56,520 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 2: to go to a bar. We were ten. This is 343 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 2: my dad, but he is not a saint. When I 344 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 2: tracked down my biological father and we got a result, 345 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 2: he was heartbroken that he never knew, and more so 346 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 2: that his mother didn't get to meet what would be 347 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:17,359 Speaker 2: his only child before she passed away. And there is 348 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:19,960 Speaker 2: more to this story, but you can join us every 349 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:24,120 Speaker 2: weekday here on YouTube three pm PST. Just tap her profile. 350 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 2: I'm not seeking a father slush daughter relationship from him, 351 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:29,760 Speaker 2: but I do want to know more about the family 352 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:33,440 Speaker 2: my DNA came from. Now that I have DNA proof 353 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:36,480 Speaker 2: and found my biological family, my dad wants me to 354 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 2: bury it and keep it a secret because it hurts him. 355 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:41,400 Speaker 2: I don't want to keep it a secret, and that 356 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:43,359 Speaker 2: might make me an a hole. Do you think it 357 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:45,200 Speaker 2: makes him an a hole or a hole? 358 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 1: No? I don't think he being in a secret or 359 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:49,040 Speaker 1: not wanting No. 360 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:50,920 Speaker 2: I don't think she would be an a hole for. 361 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:52,960 Speaker 1: I think it's been kept a secret from her for 362 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:53,239 Speaker 1: so long. 363 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, which is really frustrating. I think OP is now 364 00:17:56,560 --> 00:17:59,480 Speaker 2: allowed to do whatever she wants at that information. I 365 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 2: get that hurts him to have people find out, But 366 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 2: how am I supposed to feel I was lied to 367 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 2: my whole life and missed out on what seems like 368 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:09,520 Speaker 2: a great family. My biological father's family has been very 369 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:13,640 Speaker 2: welcoming and supportive. So would I be the a whole 370 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 2: if I don't keep the secret. I feel like this 371 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 2: is my story and part of who I am. I'm 372 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:21,119 Speaker 2: not even the ethnicity I was told I was. I 373 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 2: would like to learn about it and be proud of 374 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:28,320 Speaker 2: my real ancestry. So everyone in child So Sophia is 375 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 2: opda hole for not keeping the secret. 376 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:32,680 Speaker 1: I don't think so. I think that you can, especially 377 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:36,359 Speaker 1: exposing it to her biofather's family. 378 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:38,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think you need to flaunt it. And 379 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 2: you're like, you're the dad that raised his face, like haha, 380 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:45,760 Speaker 2: you're not related to me. Ah, you don't necessarily even 381 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 2: need to like tell everyone. But to seek a relationship 382 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:52,919 Speaker 2: with your biological father, I think is more than fine, 383 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:59,160 Speaker 2: and you are very entitled to agreed. Agreed, But that's 384 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:02,000 Speaker 2: where that story ends. This is an episode from Deep 385 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:09,240 Speaker 2: within the Archives, time for okop rewam. My daughter holds 386 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 2: a grudge against me for the divorce. If only she 387 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:12,960 Speaker 2: knew the truth. 388 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 3: Well, what's the truth, daddy? 389 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:17,960 Speaker 2: The truth better be something crazy? 390 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:19,160 Speaker 3: Oh good? 391 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 2: And it is. John I'm gonna get into it. 392 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:21,720 Speaker 3: It always is. 393 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:25,120 Speaker 2: My daughter, who is twenty seven, is getting married in August. 394 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:29,359 Speaker 2: She hasn't invited my wife or our children, and I 395 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 2: am very hurts and I told her that since my 396 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:35,200 Speaker 2: family wasn't welcome, I shouldn't be welcome either. 397 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:36,920 Speaker 3: Dang She was. 398 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:40,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, get them, daddy. She was angry with me and 399 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:43,399 Speaker 2: has called me crying, saying that I am an a 400 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:45,879 Speaker 2: hole for doing this to her. Since who is going 401 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:48,959 Speaker 2: to walk her down the aisle? Not op, I guess 402 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 2: who's gonna do it. A little backstory. My daughter was 403 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:55,440 Speaker 2: a happy child until she was thirteen and her mom 404 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:59,119 Speaker 2: and I divorced. She was devastated and we did everything 405 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:03,240 Speaker 2: from therapy, et cetera. She couldn't fathom what was going 406 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:07,199 Speaker 2: on since we were a happy family. Guess not so happy? 407 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:08,439 Speaker 3: I guess not. 408 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:13,880 Speaker 2: I met my beautiful wife four years later, and it 409 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:16,720 Speaker 2: was the second blow to her. Since she lived with 410 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:19,480 Speaker 2: the hope that her mom and I would reconcile. She 411 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:22,639 Speaker 2: never liked my wife, even with the effort my wife 412 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:26,439 Speaker 2: showed later in the relationship. Now my wife and our 413 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:29,840 Speaker 2: small children aren't welcome at her wedding. Everyone else is 414 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 2: including her mom's new boyfriend and his son's seems like 415 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:38,439 Speaker 2: there's like a you know, maybe a little one sided 416 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:39,280 Speaker 2: treatment over here. 417 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 3: It seems he've been in balance. 418 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:43,119 Speaker 2: She told me that she was free to invite whoever 419 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:45,520 Speaker 2: she wanted on her big day, and I totally agree 420 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:48,880 Speaker 2: with her and support her decision. But then shouldn't I 421 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:54,199 Speaker 2: also be free to decline the invitation? Ooh am I 422 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:55,000 Speaker 2: the a hole here? 423 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 3: Dang. 424 00:20:56,640 --> 00:21:01,920 Speaker 5: So to clarify, op basically kicked the dad out of 425 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:05,920 Speaker 5: her wedding because she still seems hurt over the divorce. 426 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:10,399 Speaker 2: Right, not quite so. To be clear, Opie hasn't invited 427 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 2: her dad's wife or her children to the wedding, but 428 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 2: her dad she wants at the wedding to walk her 429 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:20,680 Speaker 2: down the aisle, right. 430 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:23,679 Speaker 5: And he's like, well, I mean if you're gonna get me, 431 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 5: like you're gonna get my family like this, this is the. 432 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 2: Paculum deal, honey, Yeah yeah. 433 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:37,400 Speaker 5: Wow, okay, uh yeah, So far op is the a hole. 434 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:44,240 Speaker 3: But no I'm saying it. I'm okay, That's what I'm 435 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:45,880 Speaker 3: that's on record. 436 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 2: All right, There is an update though, all right, but 437 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 2: everyone in the comments put who you think is the 438 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:53,119 Speaker 2: A hole? Are there any angels here? Is everyone in 439 00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 2: an a whole? But there is an update, so we're 440 00:21:56,000 --> 00:22:00,040 Speaker 2: gonna get into it. Thanks everyone, as I expected, No 441 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:03,800 Speaker 2: buddy is the a hole here? Oh? I understand that 442 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:06,119 Speaker 2: my daughter doesn't like my family, and I wish that 443 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:09,400 Speaker 2: I knew how to tackle this situation earlier. I thought 444 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 2: I was doing the right thing by giving her space 445 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:14,400 Speaker 2: when my ex told me that she wasn't in love 446 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:17,720 Speaker 2: with me anymore and that she wanted to see other people. Oh, 447 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:20,120 Speaker 2: we got a divorce and we didn't tell my daughter 448 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:23,720 Speaker 2: the reason. Then my ex changed her mind a year 449 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 2: later and wanted a reconciliation for the sake of our daughter. 450 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:29,479 Speaker 2: Everyone told me that we were meant to be together 451 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:32,159 Speaker 2: and that I should forgive her and take her my 452 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 2: ex back, including my own family and friends. Interesting, they said, 453 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:40,600 Speaker 2: for your daughter's sake, you gotta do it. The thing was, 454 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 2: I had fallen out of love with my ex by then, 455 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:45,800 Speaker 2: but nobody forgave me, and my daughter grew up listening 456 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 2: to our family blaming me for the divorce. Okay, I 457 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:53,359 Speaker 2: always kept showing my daughter that she was my only priority, 458 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:56,320 Speaker 2: and with time I even told her what really happened. 459 00:22:56,640 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 2: Hoping she would understand better how nuanced relationship. Nobody was 460 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 2: at fault, and both her mom and I loved her 461 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:06,240 Speaker 2: very much. I don't know how I failed there or 462 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:08,680 Speaker 2: what more I should have done so she wouldn't resent 463 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 2: me the way she did and still does. When I 464 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:13,439 Speaker 2: met my wife, all my daughters hope for her parents 465 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:16,440 Speaker 2: to be together was now gone, and she hated my wife. 466 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:18,959 Speaker 2: By then, she was already seventeen, and it was harder 467 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:21,000 Speaker 2: for both my wife and I to have a relationship 468 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:23,119 Speaker 2: with her. I didn't regret going against everyone when I 469 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:25,439 Speaker 2: didn't want my old marriage back because I believed and 470 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:27,679 Speaker 2: still believe, that it is my decision and it is 471 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 2: the right one. I'm sorry to say I'm going against 472 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 2: everyone now too, including my wife, and I'm not going 473 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:37,919 Speaker 2: to attend my daughter's wedding. She has made zero effort 474 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 2: to have a relationship with me since she moved out. 475 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 2: She has refused to meet her two brothers, and even 476 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:44,959 Speaker 2: now she isn't that much interested in me attending, as 477 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:47,960 Speaker 2: much as having her father walk her because it would 478 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:51,879 Speaker 2: be embarrassing otherwise. It's time my daughter learned that actions 479 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:55,159 Speaker 2: have consequences. To answer why my daughter doesn't have a 480 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 2: beef with her mother's boyfriend. I can only speculate, but 481 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 2: my ex met her partner a bit later in life. 482 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:03,399 Speaker 2: Had she met someone while both my ex and I 483 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:05,880 Speaker 2: were single and my ex had chosen to move on, 484 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:08,680 Speaker 2: my daughter probably would have blamed them for breaking your family. Instead, 485 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:11,240 Speaker 2: it just happened to me, my beautiful wife that took 486 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 2: the biggest chunk of the blame and resentment. D Daddy. Okay, 487 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:20,520 Speaker 2: before John and I give our breakdown, Okop Gang, what 488 00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:22,240 Speaker 2: do you think? Do we got any angels? Do we 489 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:24,800 Speaker 2: got any a holes? Is everyone an a hole? Is 490 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:27,760 Speaker 2: everyone an angel? Are there no ales? Are there no angels? 491 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 2: Tell us what would you do? Put in the comments 492 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 2: and we're about to give you our breakdown? John, what 493 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:33,400 Speaker 2: do you think? 494 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 5: I'm I'm so torn on this one because it seems 495 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:40,840 Speaker 5: what Op is implying, and of course we wouldn't know 496 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:41,440 Speaker 5: unless we. 497 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:44,240 Speaker 3: Really get his daughter's perspective. 498 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:48,200 Speaker 5: But it seems what OPI is implying is that Op 499 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:51,960 Speaker 5: doesn't or that his daughter doesn't like his current wife 500 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 5: because his daughter is putting. 501 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:56,960 Speaker 3: Blame on her for ruining her parents' marriage. 502 00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:59,120 Speaker 2: Right, So like, yeah, that's one. 503 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,520 Speaker 5: It would be one thing, if it was like, you know, 504 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:06,159 Speaker 5: you know, my wife just kept telling her, oh, she 505 00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:09,239 Speaker 5: needs like go exercise and like look good for her 506 00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:11,480 Speaker 5: big day, and now she doesn't want her at the wedding. 507 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:13,440 Speaker 5: If it was something like that, it's like, yeah, I 508 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 5: get her out of here, you know what I mean. 509 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:18,679 Speaker 5: But it I think it gets a lot trickier when 510 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:24,200 Speaker 5: it's like it seems like the daughter doesn't want the 511 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:29,560 Speaker 5: the the wife of OPI's wife for that reason, for 512 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 5: the reason of of she putting the blame on the divorce. 513 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:40,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's like, you know, it's I think, well, 514 00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:43,119 Speaker 2: I guess the question is like, if you're having a wedding, 515 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:48,040 Speaker 2: you can you get to choose who you ultimately, yeah, right, yes, right, 516 00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:51,720 Speaker 2: So ultimately I think, you know, the daughter has the 517 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 2: right to choose whoever she wants. What is the most 518 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:58,240 Speaker 2: charitable and nice thing to do, Like if she was 519 00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:02,119 Speaker 2: an absolute angel, it would probably be to invite her 520 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:05,239 Speaker 2: dad's whole family and like try to rekindle some kind 521 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:09,399 Speaker 2: of relationship with her dad. And you know, like just 522 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:14,920 Speaker 2: because her dad, you know, found love that wasn't her 523 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 2: mom doesn't like like she shouldn't hold a grudge against 524 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:20,919 Speaker 2: him for that, right, but I understand that it's very 525 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:23,720 Speaker 2: hard maybe to do that, especially when it happens young. 526 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:30,200 Speaker 2: So I think, like, I think, I think they're both 527 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 2: being a little petty. I think they're both being a 528 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:35,800 Speaker 2: little petty. There's a little petty just there. Like the 529 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:40,480 Speaker 2: daughter is a little petty because she's not inviting her 530 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:43,800 Speaker 2: father's family, and I think the dad is being petty 531 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:46,280 Speaker 2: like he should be a dad, you know, like yeah, 532 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 2: you know, fuck fuck the if if his daughter isn't 533 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:55,080 Speaker 2: inviting your family, Like I understand, but like, you know, 534 00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:58,880 Speaker 2: it's your daughter still still walking down the aisle. It's 535 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:01,480 Speaker 2: it's like the day is ultimately about her and not you, 536 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:05,880 Speaker 2: And I think that dad is making it more about him. 537 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:08,560 Speaker 2: So I think you're both a little petty here. If like, 538 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:13,879 Speaker 2: if they were trying to be the best people ever, uh, 539 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:17,239 Speaker 2: I think, you know, the dad would go to the 540 00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:21,439 Speaker 2: wedding and the daughter would invite the family if they 541 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:24,880 Speaker 2: were being the best people possible. But I don't think 542 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:27,920 Speaker 2: they're like a holes for not doing that. 543 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:32,639 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think, yeah, they're This is a little bit 544 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:35,240 Speaker 5: of a whole behavior both both ways. I don't I 545 00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:37,800 Speaker 5: don't know if I'm thinking, like if I was in 546 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:42,960 Speaker 5: Op's position, I don't know, I don't I don't think. 547 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:45,920 Speaker 5: I don't think I would skip the wedding honestly. 548 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:48,440 Speaker 2: Like I would, I wouldn't. I would make it known like. 549 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:51,640 Speaker 5: Listen, I want the you know, the rest the rest 550 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:54,720 Speaker 5: of my family to be here. But I'm also like, 551 00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:57,400 Speaker 5: I don't, I don't think I would like to make 552 00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:01,560 Speaker 5: a stand like you know, I don't know. 553 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think generally, like is something that I, 554 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:09,160 Speaker 2: you know, I don't like about Reddit in general. It's 555 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:12,720 Speaker 2: like they're very vindictive like as a group of people, 556 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:14,840 Speaker 2: and so it's like you fuck me up, I'm gonna 557 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:16,959 Speaker 2: fuck you up. And I just don't think that's how 558 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:19,919 Speaker 2: you like make a better world. And so we might 559 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:22,680 Speaker 2: get flamed in the comments on TikTok or YouTube or 560 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 2: whatever for like having this stance. There's like no, like 561 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:28,639 Speaker 2: he's in the right right, But it's not like who 562 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:32,360 Speaker 2: has the right to do something bad? It's like how 563 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:35,879 Speaker 2: can we be the most good right? And yeah, I 564 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 2: feel like both of these people are missing the bar 565 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:39,400 Speaker 2: a little. 566 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 3: Bit, or we can we can floor the gas and 567 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:44,000 Speaker 3: you know what, or. 568 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:47,280 Speaker 2: Fucking eye for an eye baby, let me stab an 569 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:55,200 Speaker 2: icicle in your freaking eye socket. Yeah yeah, buddy, Okay, 570 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:56,840 Speaker 2: but you know, John and I just threw people. Do 571 00:28:56,880 --> 00:29:00,280 Speaker 2: you agree with what we said? Do you disagree? Tell us? Why? Please? 572 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:04,120 Speaker 2: You know, toaster roast us. Take us down a nutch, 573 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:07,200 Speaker 2: you know, to cut our testicles off and put them 574 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:11,600 Speaker 2: in a jar of formaldehyde if you so choose. 575 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:14,360 Speaker 3: Or or don't, or you could pass on that. 576 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:21,320 Speaker 2: Who's the damast person you've ever met? Okayop? This is Okayop. 577 00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:24,320 Speaker 2: I'm Samuel Daughter I R. And we tell the funniest 578 00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:28,000 Speaker 2: stories on the Entranet's almost like we sing them to 579 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:31,760 Speaker 2: you with the sweet, sweet lungs of singing of the 580 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:34,720 Speaker 2: air of the gods, of the gods. I'm actually imagining 581 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:37,880 Speaker 2: like like a Mariachi band, but full of zoos sympocida. 582 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:39,520 Speaker 3: That's definitely our style. 583 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:41,120 Speaker 2: Don't, don't, don't don't. 584 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 5: The question is like, is it like zoos symp Poseidon 585 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:47,720 Speaker 5: with like the full outfit. 586 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:50,360 Speaker 2: Full outfit, Yeah, yeah, fullaugh of everything. Yeah, it's gotta 587 00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:52,720 Speaker 2: be anyway, it's just bulging out. I got a question 588 00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:55,160 Speaker 2: for you, John, actually, and not even the story. 589 00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:57,320 Speaker 3: Oh let me know what is it? 590 00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:02,200 Speaker 2: Who's the damast person you've ever It's not uncommon as 591 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:04,480 Speaker 2: a teacher to have students who are a bit behind 592 00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:08,600 Speaker 2: the curve in certain aspects, but nine point nine percent 593 00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:11,440 Speaker 2: of the time they are keen to understand something. They 594 00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 2: might not understand how to identify it now or what 595 00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:17,080 Speaker 2: theme is, but they somehow know how to make a 596 00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:19,760 Speaker 2: mean plate of nachos. Like you know, you learn pretty 597 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:22,600 Speaker 2: quick not to judge a fish for their tree climbing ability. 598 00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:25,440 Speaker 2: I thought this was the rule when I was teaching 599 00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:30,080 Speaker 2: until I met Kevin Kevin Kevin isn't his real name, 600 00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:34,280 Speaker 2: but it doesn't matter because he can't spill it anyway. 601 00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:38,360 Speaker 2: Kevin was a student divine during my last year of teaching. 602 00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:41,360 Speaker 2: He came to my classroom with very little to show 603 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:44,080 Speaker 2: for his academic past. He had moved a few times 604 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:46,640 Speaker 2: and thus was missing a lot of typical test scores 605 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:49,520 Speaker 2: that we use to try to ballpark their ability. Don't worry, 606 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:52,120 Speaker 2: it was ballpark. We didn't make any decisions until we 607 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:54,560 Speaker 2: actually had a chance to sit and talk with them 608 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:56,840 Speaker 2: and work with the student for a bit. I thought, 609 00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:59,840 Speaker 2: that's fine, I'll just do some one on one with Kevin. 610 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:02,920 Speaker 2: See what's up good idea. One on one with Kevin 611 00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:07,160 Speaker 2: was like conversing with someone who'd forgotten everything in a freak, 612 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:11,840 Speaker 2: if not impossible, amnesia incident. There was no evidence that 613 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:14,480 Speaker 2: he had learned anything past the second grade, and he 614 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:19,040 Speaker 2: was in ninth grade. Oh dear flabbergacid. I figured we 615 00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:21,480 Speaker 2: needed to get more serious with this. If he was 616 00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:23,239 Speaker 2: going to be in my class, I needed to know 617 00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:27,560 Speaker 2: why and how he didn't understand anything. I decided to 618 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:30,280 Speaker 2: meet with him, his guidance counselor his parents, and another 619 00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:32,520 Speaker 2: teacher to see what was really going on. This is 620 00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:36,400 Speaker 2: where it all became clear. It was some incredible fluke 621 00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:39,080 Speaker 2: that his family hadn't been wiped out of the face 622 00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:42,440 Speaker 2: of the earth years ago. Odds are his entire heritage 623 00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:46,320 Speaker 2: was based on blind luck and some kind of sick 624 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:50,040 Speaker 2: divine intervention that saves his family every time a threat 625 00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:54,160 Speaker 2: presents itself. Kevin was the genetic pinnacle of this null achievement. 626 00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:57,760 Speaker 2: Even with my instructional lead, this woman couldn't even find 627 00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:01,120 Speaker 2: a redeeming trait at the bottom of the Marianna's trench, 628 00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:03,640 Speaker 2: and she failed to see any reason this kid or 629 00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:07,280 Speaker 2: his family should be alive today. So here's the list 630 00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:10,040 Speaker 2: of events that made it abundantly clear that God exists 631 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:14,080 Speaker 2: and he's laughing uncontrollably. Kevin frequently forgot when and where 632 00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:16,880 Speaker 2: classes were, and on more than one occasion I had 633 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:20,280 Speaker 2: to retrieve him from other classrooms. Kevin ate an entire 634 00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:24,760 Speaker 2: pack of twenty four crayons a ninth grader puked, and 635 00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:27,200 Speaker 2: then did it again the next day. Oh, this is 636 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:30,480 Speaker 2: ninth grade. I have no idea where he got the crayons. 637 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:31,400 Speaker 3: Oh. 638 00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:35,040 Speaker 2: Kevin was removed from the culinary arts program after leaving 639 00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:38,120 Speaker 2: a cutting board on the gas stove and starting a 640 00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:42,200 Speaker 2: fire twice. Kevin threw his lunch at the school resource 641 00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:44,640 Speaker 2: officer and tried to run away. He ran into a 642 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:48,280 Speaker 2: door and insisted it wasn't him. Oh my god, Kevin 643 00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:51,360 Speaker 2: stole my phone during class. I called it it rang 644 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:53,640 Speaker 2: He denied it was ringing, not that it wasn't his, 645 00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:56,400 Speaker 2: not that he did it. No, he denied that the 646 00:32:56,440 --> 00:33:00,880 Speaker 2: phone was actually ringing. He tried it three before the 647 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:03,680 Speaker 2: end of the year. Oh my god. Kevin called the 648 00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:07,120 Speaker 2: basketball coach a mother f and b during gym. Basketball 649 00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:09,800 Speaker 2: tryouts were that afternoon. Kevin tried out. It did not 650 00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:13,680 Speaker 2: go well. Kevin's mom could never remember which school he 651 00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:16,880 Speaker 2: went to. She missed several meetings because she drove to 652 00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:20,400 Speaker 2: other schools, none of which he ever attended. Kevin would 653 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:22,800 Speaker 2: say the N word a lot. Kevin was white and 654 00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:25,880 Speaker 2: this high school was eighty four percent black. Kevin got 655 00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:29,440 Speaker 2: beat out a lot. Kevin stole another student's iPhone and 656 00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:33,520 Speaker 2: tried to sell it back to them. Kevin didn't understand 657 00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:37,400 Speaker 2: that his grade was dependent on tests, quizzes, homework, class work, 658 00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:41,320 Speaker 2: and participation. Kevin finished his first semester with a three 659 00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:47,480 Speaker 2: percent average average. He then tried to bribe me with 660 00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:51,640 Speaker 2: eleven dollars. Kevin spit on a girl and said you 661 00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:54,040 Speaker 2: should get out of those wet clothes. The girl was 662 00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:58,520 Speaker 2: a Spanish student teacher. Kevin didn't know dogs and cats 663 00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:01,520 Speaker 2: were different animals. That's all for this one. 664 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:03,200 Speaker 3: God, I don't even know what to say. 665 00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:05,400 Speaker 5: At first, I was like, Wow, this poor kid is 666 00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:07,440 Speaker 5: just so stupid, and I'm just like, I don't even 667 00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:08,319 Speaker 5: know what to think, Like. 668 00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:10,399 Speaker 2: Kevin seems like a mean stupid yeah. 669 00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:12,239 Speaker 5: Yeah, Like at first I was like, oh, it's kind 670 00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:15,000 Speaker 5: of adorable in some way, like he's just eating crans, 671 00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:17,600 Speaker 5: And then it's like, oh, he's like so mean, Like 672 00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:18,520 Speaker 5: what's going on here? 673 00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:21,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, is not Kevin's no good, no good, but you 674 00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:24,960 Speaker 2: know it's always good smashing that subscribe, but subscribe follows 675 00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:28,400 Speaker 2: on Spotify, support us on Patreon with the OG's. 676 00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:31,720 Speaker 5: DESIREE Canterbury, Keegan Simmons and Kathy Quickly 677 00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:34,600 Speaker 2: I think, quickly, thank you for watching, and we're listening 678 00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:35,160 Speaker 2: and we'll see