1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:03,760 Speaker 1: It's time to catch a cheater. 2 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:05,440 Speaker 2: Only on the Jubile Show. 3 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:07,240 Speaker 1: Laura is on the phone today for to catch a 4 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:09,879 Speaker 1: cheater and she thinks that her husband of five years 5 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:12,320 Speaker 1: named Chris might be messing around, so we'll see if 6 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:14,600 Speaker 1: we can catch him if he is. In a second, Laura, sorry, 7 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 1: you have to come on the show this way. 8 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 2: What was going on? Why do you think Chris is cheating? 9 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 3: Well, okay, so I mean, yeah, Chris, I've been married 10 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 3: for five years, but we've actually been together for nine 11 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:28,160 Speaker 3: years total, so you know, it's a very long term relationship. 12 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:32,600 Speaker 3: There have been some rocky moments, but we've we've always 13 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:33,600 Speaker 3: been able to work through. 14 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:34,200 Speaker 4: Them in the past. 15 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:37,600 Speaker 3: So I'm in a little bit of a conundrum right now. 16 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 3: I'm super in love with Chris. This is what I 17 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:44,479 Speaker 3: would call a pretty happy marriage. But last month I 18 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 3: was on the couch, I was watching TV and Chris 19 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 3: was sitting next to me. He had a phone by him, 20 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:52,319 Speaker 3: which is not unusual, and his phone lit up and 21 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 3: I just kind of glanced at it because it distracted me. 22 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 3: It wasn't like, you know, it wasn't anything weird. I 23 00:00:56,680 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 3: just like caught it out of the corner. Of my eye, 24 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 3: but it looked like a Tinder notification. Oh yeah, I mean, 25 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 3: I you know, I've never used Tinder myself. Again, we've 26 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:09,559 Speaker 3: been together for nine years, but like I have single girlfriends, 27 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:13,680 Speaker 3: I know what Tinder looks like. So later that same night, 28 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 3: we were lying down in bed, we were like, you know, 29 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 3: ready for bed, just kind of like on our phone, 30 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:22,199 Speaker 3: and I saw it again, like I saw this notification 31 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 3: flash and he very quickly picked up his phone and 32 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 3: turned it off. And I was like, okay, that's a 33 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 3: little bit weird, right, And again I didn't I didn't 34 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 3: want to jump to conclusions because I mean, it could 35 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 3: be anything, could be work, it could be whatever. But 36 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:40,039 Speaker 3: it was still bothering me the next day, so I 37 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 3: got a brainwave and I don't know if it was 38 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 3: a good idea, but it was definitely an idea that 39 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 3: I ran with and I went ahead and I downloaded 40 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 3: Tinder onto my own phone and I made fake profile picture. 41 00:01:57,880 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 3: I said my name was Bailey, and I found Chris 42 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:11,519 Speaker 3: he was on Tinder matched. Yeah, so I matched with him, 43 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 3: as you know, Bailey. And at first I didn't do 44 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:17,800 Speaker 3: anything about it. It was just sort of like you know, 45 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 3: a gotcha moment, Like I was like, okay, he was 46 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 3: on here and he matched with me. So finally though, 47 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 3: I mustered up the strength to message him, and he 48 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 3: was honestly just really nice. He wasn't weird, he wasn't aggressive, 49 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 3: he was just super kind. He didn't ask me for nudes, 50 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 3: he didn't like be like, you know, let's hook up 51 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 3: or anything. He did. It seemed like he just wanted 52 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:44,359 Speaker 3: to talk. So as Bailey, we start talking together, and 53 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 3: I knew that I should be like super pissed about this, 54 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 3: as as Laura, as now my two personalities, like as myself, 55 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 3: he should have been pissed, and I kind of was, 56 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 3: but I really just wanted to see where this was going. 57 00:02:57,240 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 3: So you know, I go into Bailey mode and started 58 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 3: talking back to him and the truths. I kind of 59 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:05,920 Speaker 3: got addicted to it, like that little adrenaline rush, you know. 60 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 3: And after a while of chatting over like the period 61 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 3: of a couple of weeks, I knew when he'd leave 62 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 3: the room to message her as me Bailey, you know, 63 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:19,679 Speaker 3: and I you know, kind of wait for the look 64 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 3: on his face after he read whatever eye slash Bailey 65 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 3: had sent him, and it was you know, it was 66 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 3: a little bit cute. 67 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:26,639 Speaker 4: It kind of. 68 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 3: Felt like that new relationship, like you know, when you're 69 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 3: excited to talk to somebody, Like that's that's how he 70 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 3: appeared a little bit. That's kind of how I felt. 71 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 3: But you know, at the end of the day, it's 72 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 3: still it's cheating. He doesn't know that it's me. 73 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 2: If someone else though, I mean. 74 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 3: That doesn't exactly exactly, and so that's my dilemma. Like 75 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 3: I realized that I let it go too far, but 76 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 3: like it was just really nice to kind of see 77 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 3: my husband in a new light that wasn't and it 78 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 3: wasn't like I said, it wasn't super gross or predatory. 79 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 3: It seems like he just really does like talking to Bailey, 80 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 3: but I don't know what he's doing with other people 81 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 3: on Twitter and that. 82 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, that sounds very, very accepting of it. 83 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 5: I think there's really one big takeaway here, honestly, is 84 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 5: that I think roleplay maybe something that is exciting for you. 85 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 5: I mean, I'm serious, it sounds like that's something that 86 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 5: may work for you guys, once you get to the 87 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 5: bottom of what's actually happening. 88 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 3: Well, I hope we get to the bottom of it. 89 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:23,599 Speaker 3: I mean I'm it kind of depends on what else 90 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 3: is going on on there. You know what I mean. 91 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 1: You already told us what grocery store you guys are 92 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:29,359 Speaker 1: Rewards card members at. So we'll call him and pretend 93 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:30,840 Speaker 1: to be from the grocery store and say that he's 94 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:33,679 Speaker 1: this month's big winner of flowers from our Florida apartment 95 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 1: to be sitting to wherever he wants. 96 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:36,040 Speaker 2: We'll see if he sends us to you or to 97 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 2: somebody else. 98 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, all right, place, don't come back get your 99 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 1: to Catch a Cheater next if you're just joining us 100 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 1: for today's to Catch a Cheater. Laura is on the 101 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 1: phone and she thinks that her husband of five years, Chris, 102 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 1: might be messing around. So in a few minutes, we're 103 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:51,280 Speaker 1: gonna call him and see if we can catch him 104 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:53,359 Speaker 1: by pretending to be from the grocery store that they 105 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 1: are reward card members at and say that every single month, 106 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 1: we choose one Rewards Card member who gets free flowers 107 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 1: delivered from our Florida department. We'll see if he sends 108 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 1: those to his wife, Laura or to somebody else. Before 109 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 1: we do that, Laura, why don't you catch everybody up 110 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 1: on your situation. 111 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 3: I think that my husband may be cheating on me 112 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:14,839 Speaker 3: because I saw a Tinder notification on his phone, and 113 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 3: in order to find out, I made a fake profile. 114 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 3: I said my name was this girl Daily, she doesn't 115 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:22,720 Speaker 3: need TIS. I made her up and he started chatting 116 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:25,719 Speaker 3: with her. But it hasn't gone beyond just talking. So 117 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 3: I don't know if he's doing anything else on Tinder. 118 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 3: I don't know what's going on. I just know that 119 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 3: he's been talking to me as a girl named Dailey, 120 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 3: and I want to figure out what's going on. 121 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 2: All right? You ready for us to call on? 122 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:37,920 Speaker 3: Yeah? 123 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:51,559 Speaker 2: I guess, so here we go. Hello. 124 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:54,359 Speaker 1: Hi, my name is Gorvin calling from SIRS. I was 125 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:56,719 Speaker 1: looking for our rewards card member named Chris. 126 00:05:57,440 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, speak Chris. 127 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 1: Please don't hang up. This is not a marketing phone call. 128 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:04,040 Speaker 1: I'm actually calling to say congratulations. You're the most big winner. 129 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:06,039 Speaker 1: Thank you very much for shopping with us. 130 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 4: All right, well, what does that mean? 131 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 1: Every single month, we choose one rewards card member who 132 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 1: gets free flowers delivered from our floural department. 133 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:15,480 Speaker 2: It's our way of saying thank you for shopping. 134 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 1: You've won thirty six long sim red roses, a box 135 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:19,840 Speaker 1: of chocolate or candy, and a card to be delivered 136 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 1: to anybody that you want within the fifty United States 137 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 1: of America. 138 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 2: It's absolutely free. Oh wow, okay cool. Yeah. So here's 139 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:28,040 Speaker 2: how it works. 140 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:29,479 Speaker 1: If you know who you want to send the flowers 141 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:32,040 Speaker 1: to right now, I can take the information down over 142 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 1: the phone in a matter of minutes. 143 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 4: Well, we can knock it out right now. Oh, I 144 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 4: got you? 145 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:37,479 Speaker 2: All right? Great? 146 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 1: So what's the first and last name of the person 147 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 1: you'd like to see them too? 148 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 4: It's the same last name. It's just my wife, Laura. Okay, 149 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 4: you have the address, but with the account. 150 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 2: Uh, yes, I too. Do you want to put anything 151 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 2: on a card? 152 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 3: Well, just tell her. 153 00:06:55,400 --> 00:07:00,360 Speaker 4: I love you very much and you're you're you're my one. Yeah, 154 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 4: you're my one? Does that make sense? 155 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 3: Yeah? 156 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:03,920 Speaker 2: Got it. How long you guys been married? By the way, 157 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:07,800 Speaker 2: five years? Oh boy, that's a long time. Do you 158 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 2: ever have another one? 159 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 3: Oh? 160 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 1: No, Chris, this is actually the Jubil Show. It's a 161 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 1: radio show. My name is Jubeil. 162 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, Hi, Chris, I'm mean. Also on the show, Hi 163 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 2: and I'm Victoria. 164 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 1: We do a segment call to catch a cheater and 165 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 1: your wife, Laura is actually on the other line, and 166 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 1: she has some questions for you. 167 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 6: Hey, baby, Hi missed, took the right turn. 168 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 3: What's happening. I just want to know if you've been 169 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 3: with other women, or if you've thought about it, or 170 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 3: if you're kind of leaning in that direction. 171 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 4: I'm like on the radio right now. 172 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 3: Well, the answer, regardless. 173 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 4: Of whether I'm on the radio or not, is no, 174 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 4: I've never been with anybody but you. 175 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 3: In our marriage. Do you want to be with somebody else? 176 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 3: Is there anybody else that you've been like thinking about 177 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 3: getting together with? 178 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 4: No, No, I haven't. 179 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 3: If I ask someone named Bailey, what would she say? 180 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 3: Do you know who I'm talking about? Do you know 181 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 3: who Bailey is? 182 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 4: No? 183 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, you do, because I'm Bailey. I'm Bailey. I made 184 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 3: that account and I've been messaging you. I saw, I saw, 185 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 3: I saw a tender on your phone. I saw a 186 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 3: notification come up. So I made the Bailey profile. That's 187 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 3: that's just a random photo of a random girl I 188 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 3: found online. 189 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:32,840 Speaker 4: Okay, so we should probably like talk, Yeah. 190 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, can we please talk right now? Because like, as 191 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 3: long as we've done this much on the radio, I 192 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:39,719 Speaker 3: just like to wrap this up so I don't go 193 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 3: through like humiliated. 194 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:46,560 Speaker 6: Yeah, well you shouldn't be humiliated. I did something very stupid. This, 195 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:50,679 Speaker 6: this character you created was the only person I've been 196 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:54,479 Speaker 6: in contact with, which is you, which. 197 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:58,440 Speaker 2: Is probably in my mind, was kind of blown right now. 198 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:03,079 Speaker 6: I mean, as you can see, since you were very 199 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 6: much in on this, like I wasn't. I crossed the 200 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 6: line by opening it, but I wasn't like being inappropriate. 201 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 6: I've talked to no one else, no one sent anything inappropriate. 202 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 6: I've not gotten anything inappropriate from anybody. I was just 203 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 6: chatting and I, you know, i'd like to ironically this 204 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:25,560 Speaker 6: Dailey was and I just wanted to talk. It kind 205 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 6: of like felt like we were just things are stale 206 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 6: with us or something, and I wasn't looking to cheat. Look, 207 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 6: I'm I'm really sorry. I that was extremely stupid. But 208 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 6: I can promise you that I'm not cheating or doing 209 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 6: anything like that. 210 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 4: Not that this wasn't wrong, but like I didn't I 211 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 4: didn't step out in a way that was physical or 212 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:52,199 Speaker 4: even or even like well hopefully you can attest to 213 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 4: like wasn't even like inappropriately conversing with. 214 00:09:56,040 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 3: Anybody, you know, all right, Well, I mean clearly there 215 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 3: was something we both got from this, Like it was 216 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 3: thrilling for me in a certain way. It seems like 217 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:08,199 Speaker 3: it was thrilling for you to be able to talk 218 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 3: to somebody else. But I feel like that's something we 219 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 3: can work on in our relationship. Like I'm still kind 220 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 3: of mad, but I can see what has been lacking, 221 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 3: and I hope we can work through it. 222 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:20,680 Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm sorry. 223 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 4: I'll show you all of it. 224 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 2: You'll at least be. 225 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 4: Somewhat self assured by that, but I'm really sorry. 226 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 3: Thank you. 227 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it sounds like he wasn't cheating, but 228 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 1: at least if he was going to, it would be 229 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 1: with you. 230 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:34,080 Speaker 3: Yeah. 231 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, you guys obviously got some stuff to work out, 232 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 2: so good luck. Good luck is right. 233 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 3: Thanks guys, This was actually really helpful. I really appreciate 234 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 3: you helping me out with this. The double shows to 235 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:49,200 Speaker 3: Catch and Cheater