Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to coast am on iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2: And we are back with author, speaker, researcher, educator Gerard Artsen.
Speaker 2: And the book is called Adam The Adamski Book of UFO,
Speaker 2: UAP disclosure, early evidence and answers now confirmed by science.
Speaker 2: So let's get to perhaps what Adamski is best known for,
Speaker 2: and that is his contact with a Venusian entity or
Speaker 2: Venusian alien that went by the name of Orthon, taking
Speaker 2: place back in nineteen fifty two. Walk us through what
Speaker 2: happened in the Colorado Desert.
Speaker 3: It was actually Adamski who called him Orthon. He gave
Speaker 3: names to his contacts, who he said did not use
Speaker 3: names themselves, but for easy reference in his books describing
Speaker 3: his encounters and what they were telling him. He gave
Speaker 3: these human beings, he called them human beings, his own
Speaker 3: names for his readers. And what happened Adamski described it
Speaker 3: begins this episode in his part of the book, Flying
Speaker 3: Sources have landed by saying, it was about twelve thirty
Speaker 3: in the noon hour on Thursday, twenty November nineteen fifty
Speaker 3: two that I first made personal contact with a man
Speaker 3: from another world. He came to earth in his spacecraft,
Speaker 3: a flying saucer. He called it a scout ship. And
Speaker 3: so it was on the twentieth to November when Adamski,
Speaker 3: with a group of six friends and students, set out
Speaker 3: for a picnic lunch in the California desert. They went
Speaker 3: into the Coxcomb Mountains and just before noon they parked
Speaker 3: the cars. They traveled in two cars. Adamski had also
Speaker 3: brought his telescope and he had a Brownie camera. And
Speaker 3: after they parked the cars, they first saw a cigar
Speaker 3: shaped ship that was also entered in Project Blue Book
Speaker 3: as a special Report number fourteen. Not long afterwards, they
Speaker 3: saw what we know as flying sources of scoutcraft emerged
Speaker 3: from the mother ship, and apparently one of these seemed
Speaker 3: to have landed or was gone to land in the
Speaker 3: nearby foothills. So Adamski went over and to explore, and
Speaker 3: he felt himself in awe of being so near a
Speaker 3: craft obviously from another world, until he says his red
Speaker 3: was was broken when he suddenly realized there was a
Speaker 3: man standing and not far from him, about a quarter
Speaker 3: a mile from away from him, and he said he
Speaker 3: his trousers were different like Ski trousers and he had
Speaker 3: long hair reaching his shoulders, so it felt it was
Speaker 3: it was he looked like, you know, a perfectly normal
Speaker 3: human being, although his fingers were tapered. He said, and
Speaker 3: he felt. Yeah, he clearly felt in the presence of
Speaker 3: a very wise being, someone who could see through him
Speaker 3: and you know, in their in their exchange, Adamski later
Speaker 3: explained that the being was testing his telepathic abilities because
Speaker 3: later on it turned out that he could speak. But
Speaker 3: on his first in the first moments of their encounter,
Speaker 3: they you know, they they were exchanging, trying to exchange
Speaker 3: thoughts and ideas through gestures and and yeah, not being
Speaker 3: able to or seemingly not able to speak the same language.
Speaker 3: But later on during his later contact he uh and
Speaker 3: and not just the dam Ski, many many of the
Speaker 3: contact he have said that the visitors from space are
Speaker 3: very very good at picking up languages of the countries
Speaker 3: that they visit, and they also have a translation device.
Speaker 2: And did Orthon communicate to a dam Ski that he
Speaker 2: was from the planet Venus.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, he This was in the initial stages of
Speaker 3: their exchange. A Damski asked where he was from, by
Speaker 3: first pointing to himself and then to to the ground
Speaker 3: planet Earth, and then pointing to to Orthon where you're from,
Speaker 3: and Orthon point uh sort of yeah, pointed at the
Speaker 3: Sun and then made an orbit the gesture of an orbit,
Speaker 3: and a second orbit, and then uh pointed to himself.
Speaker 3: And from that Damski concluded that he was from Venus,
Speaker 3: which was later confirmed in you know, in in in words,
Speaker 3: so yes he was. He was from Venus.
Speaker 2: And did a dam Sky try and take a photograph
Speaker 2: of Worthon?
Speaker 3: He mhm, I don't remember if he tried to take
Speaker 3: I don't think in the moment he had the presence
Speaker 3: of mind too to ask him for for what do
Speaker 3: we now would do? Ask for a selfie? But he
Speaker 3: did take a photograph of the foothills on his way there,
Speaker 3: and recent enhancements of that photograph, which was made by
Speaker 3: a simple brownie camera Swedish Swedish photographer and Renee eric Olsen.
Speaker 3: He enhanced these photographs and this particular one showed a
Speaker 3: part of the sourcers sticking out from behind one of
Speaker 3: the hills and a yeah, a figure not very clear
Speaker 3: obviously because there was a significant distance from which the
Speaker 3: photograph was taken, but there was the clear silhouette and
Speaker 3: features of a man standing standing nearby the saucer, so
Speaker 3: there's no clear photograph of what Auten looks like.
Speaker 2: I understand that there were plaster casts taken a word
Speaker 2: on shoe imprints.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, when when Orthon had left a Damsky noticed
Speaker 3: also because Orthon made a point of showing that he
Speaker 3: was leaving these imprints in the in the sand, in
Speaker 3: the in the in the ground where they had met,
Speaker 3: and Damsky noticed the strange symbols in the in the footprints,
Speaker 3: and one of his one of his friends that was
Speaker 3: with him, George Hunt Williamson himself also an author and
Speaker 3: a researcher and did the extensive research in among the
Speaker 3: Native Americans in South America. He was he had a
Speaker 3: what do you call that a plaster with him so
Speaker 3: they could make a plaster cast of of the of
Speaker 3: the footprints.
Speaker 2: Anything else unusual about him or do they just look
Speaker 2: like shoe shoe prints in the sand or is there
Speaker 2: anything unusual about these plaster casts?
Speaker 3: Well, they had strange symbols, and these symbols, if I'm
Speaker 3: not mistaken, were also found by George Hunt Williamson on
Speaker 3: one of his expeditions in South America. I'm not entirely
Speaker 3: sure if these these were the ones, but it was, yeah,
Speaker 3: some kind of uh attempt at at letting us know
Speaker 3: certain things. But I must say I haven't. I haven't
Speaker 3: really studied this particular part of the account because for
Speaker 3: me Adamski, Adamski's significance is much more in what he
Speaker 3: understood of life. And you know, he was aware that
Speaker 3: consciousness is fundamental to to our objective reality. So I've
Speaker 3: never been too much into the physicality of flying sorcer
Speaker 3: or of spacecraft. You know, how long were they what
Speaker 3: was the asthma of where they were cited? It's about
Speaker 3: why are they here? And if Adamski was teaching about
Speaker 3: the fundamental nature of consciousness in the nineteen thirties and
Speaker 3: continued to do so throughout his life, despite critics saying
Speaker 3: that he came into the flying sourcer business because that's
Speaker 3: where the money was to be made. That's complete nonsense,
Speaker 3: because in his books, or his book Inside the Spaceships
Speaker 3: that relates many more of his later encounters from nineteen
Speaker 3: fifty three onward, he is told by his extrateractive contacts
Speaker 3: also about the fundamental of consciousness being fun mental to
Speaker 3: to reality, and in his even in his latest books,
Speaker 3: Cosmic Philosophy and the Science of Life Study Course, he
Speaker 3: continues to talk about consciousness and the need for for
Speaker 3: humanity to expand its consciousness and it's and it's understanding
Speaker 3: of life if we are to survive. He even said
Speaker 3: in a talk in nineteen fifty five, the main thing
Speaker 3: is not you know about about It's not about flying
Speaker 3: sources or about me or any any other phenomenon. The
Speaker 3: main thing is what is transpiring in this world today,
Speaker 3: and what is transpiring now is that humanity and the
Speaker 3: coming of the visitors from space is to do or
Speaker 3: is causing or and should be causing an expansion of
Speaker 3: our awareness of life and the and the nature of life.
Speaker 3: So I'm you know, I'm sorry, but I'm not really
Speaker 3: into the specifics of the things that many critics because
Speaker 3: you know, all these physical things can be disputed and
Speaker 3: have been disputed, especially if you don't read what Damski
Speaker 3: said about it himself. You know, so many of the
Speaker 3: critics are just parratting the the initial so called analysis
Speaker 3: by by Jim mostly and when you go when you
Speaker 3: go into it, it doesn't just doesn't hold up the criticism.
Speaker 3: And that's why for me, the main part is is
Speaker 3: the his his vision is the visionary quality of Adamski.
Speaker 3: He was aware of what is going on in the world.
Speaker 3: He was aware that we're at the at the you know,
Speaker 3: a critical moment in in our history. And as I said,
Speaker 3: he he knew that there's more to life than just
Speaker 3: being born and dying, and that see, and we have
Speaker 3: to make the best.
Speaker 2: Of it, Like, right, can you tell me?
Speaker 3: I'm sorry? Science? And that's I think what I've tried
Speaker 3: to do in my book Science is confirming these very
Speaker 3: fundamental notions that Adampski has been putting forward throughout his
Speaker 3: life and his career.
Speaker 2: Okay, so, but can we just if we could just
Speaker 2: go back to Orthon for a moment, because what was
Speaker 2: can you share what Orthon's I guess primary message to
Speaker 2: Adamski was.
Speaker 3: Hm, hm, yes. That's another interesting aspect of this first
Speaker 3: account when Adamski asked him why are you coming? Why
Speaker 3: when's your visits or why are you coming here? And
Speaker 3: Orton then gestured made just of the atomic clouds and
Speaker 3: a dampsely check are you here because of the you know,
Speaker 3: the atomic bomb explosions. So and it was also in
Speaker 3: the first report about this desert encounter in November fifty two.
Speaker 3: Four days later there was a report in the Phoenix
Speaker 3: Gazette and it actually headlined let's see if I can
Speaker 3: Yeah here, we are here, we are flying is also
Speaker 3: passenger declares a bomb last reason for visits. So it
Speaker 3: was it was the one of the main reasons for
Speaker 3: for the visitors from space to come at this particular
Speaker 3: time in our history. And of course this has been
Speaker 3: supported by many other many other contactees who were told
Speaker 3: the same thing. The same time. There's plenty of other
Speaker 3: UFO researchers who have come to the same conclusion that
Speaker 3: you know, we started noticing FOO fighters on the tales
Speaker 3: of fighter jets in World War Two, especially after after
Speaker 3: the atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. And there have
Speaker 3: been numerous sightings of UFOs over nuclear nuclear arm bases
Speaker 3: and testing grounds starting in the nineteen fifties or maybe
Speaker 3: even the nineteen forties. And of course we're all I'm
Speaker 3: sure most listeners are aware of the press conference organized
Speaker 3: and the documentary made by Richard what's his name, Robert Sallas,
Speaker 3: Robert Shallas sorry, Yeah, Robert Hastings, Robert Hays, Robert in
Speaker 3: twenty ten.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the UFO incursion over Malmstrom Air Force Base that
Speaker 2: took place in nineteen sixty seven and where they shut
Speaker 2: down a bunch of ICBM missiles took them offline exactly.
Speaker 2: And there were others in sixty seven as well, Malmstrom
Speaker 2: and Minute Air Force Base as well.
Speaker 3: Yeah. And Robert Hastings for his documentary brought together a
Speaker 3: group of one hundred and twenty former and active military
Speaker 3: officers who were based at these nuclear missile facilities US
Speaker 3: military facilities, and they all witnessed the same thing of
Speaker 3: missile shutdowns involving UFO sightings. And his documentary from twenty
Speaker 3: ten documents the same thing from unsuspected in or unsuspicious
Speaker 3: what do you call that? You know, sources that are reliable,
Speaker 3: these these military men who haven't trained thoroughly.
Speaker 2: Right, unimpeachable.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the same thing was already told to George Dampski
Speaker 3: and reported by George Dampsky in nineteen fifty two.
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