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Speaker 1: Hawks Live here before we get into Uh got Paul

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Speaker 1: Moyer and Michael Bumpus, I'm Dave Wyman, and well we're

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Speaker 1: gonna get into. We're gonna do our own opponent preview

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Speaker 1: this time. I like it. We don't need anybody, we

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Speaker 1: don't need no stinkin preview. I like that. I like that.

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Speaker 1: Later on we're gonna talk on the phone with Cody Barton.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk to Professor John Clayton, of course, and then

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Speaker 1: Paul Gallant from the Morning show. Uh. He ad a

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Speaker 1: little video game NBA two K twoy twenty with George Fan.

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Speaker 1: He tapes that and uh, you know, they play a

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Speaker 1: little video game and have a little chat. What's the

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Speaker 1: last video game you played? Day? Um? It was called

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Speaker 1: Age of Empires on my computer about ten or twelve

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Speaker 1: years ago. I would spend like four or five hours

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Speaker 1: on that and I'm like, you know, the time I

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Speaker 1: spent this year playing that video game, I could have

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Speaker 1: learned another language. I could have learned how to play

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Speaker 1: the guitar. I could have done all kinds of things.

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Speaker 1: So I made myself stop. But how about you? Um?

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Speaker 1: I had to whoop my son and Madden last night.

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, we're gonna he and I just did a

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Speaker 1: little fist pump there because for those of you that

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Speaker 1: are listening on radio, what about you? God, this isn't

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Speaker 1: I was praying you guys wouldn't even ask me this

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Speaker 1: because I used to be a video key. No, I

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Speaker 1: was a video guy that my kids. I would come

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Speaker 1: home from work or I'd be traveling, and back then

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Speaker 1: it was a lot of Nintendo and and I would

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Speaker 1: always I would stay up till two o'clock in the morning.

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Speaker 1: I would beat the levels. They would come down the

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Speaker 1: next morning and and oh dad, I can't believe he

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Speaker 1: did that, But I kid you not. It was it

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Speaker 1: was like Super Mario Kart. Is how long ago it's been? Oh?

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Speaker 1: I mentioned Hong because that came out by it and

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Speaker 1: that was really just a paddle down and a ball

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Speaker 1: that and that was like fascinating to everyone, but you know,

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Speaker 1: a one. As much as I would like to talk

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Speaker 1: about Paul's keeping video games, let's get into what happened

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Speaker 1: last week. Yeah, all about that against the Minnesota Vikings,

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Speaker 1: and listen, I thought the most important thing coming out

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Speaker 1: of that game was, first of all, putting two hundred

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Speaker 1: and eighteen yards once again on a top ten run defense.

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Speaker 1: And that's a physical front seven. I mean Linval, Joseph, Shamar,

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Speaker 1: Steve and Griffin, I mean their linebacker corps really good

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Speaker 1: to Neil Hunter Kendrick, they yeah, they punched him in

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Speaker 1: the mouth and you know, put two hundred and eighteen

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Speaker 1: yards on him. And then you know, pretty hard hitting

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Speaker 1: defensive performance. And my favorite play, guys was Quandre Diggs

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Speaker 1: coming up and smoking Irv Smith junior, who's there tied in.

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Speaker 1: But uh, what was the thing for you guys that

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Speaker 1: was the most impressive about that win? Um? I think

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Speaker 1: for me it was that we I felt like we

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Speaker 1: score ended up being much closer than it was, and

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Speaker 1: even at halftime and Bump you and I talked about it,

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Speaker 1: I felt like we were in control of that game,

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Speaker 1: even though we were down seventeen to ten. I felt

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Speaker 1: we gave them everything. That first drive we missed two tackles.

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Speaker 1: That was sixty seven yards with our eighty three. I

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Speaker 1: thought there was three. There could have been. Jared Reid

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Speaker 1: but you know they were too big because the first

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Speaker 1: shoulder tackle, and that was for thirty seven yards. The

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Speaker 1: next one was Diggs on Diggs and that was about twenty. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And then I just thought the way we played the

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Speaker 1: thought we didn't manage the clock. Sorry, Pete, very well.

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Speaker 1: We we could have easily have gotten that well under

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Speaker 1: a minute when we went into that final two or

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Speaker 1: I felt like we were in control. I felt like

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Speaker 1: me is I thought we made a really good football

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Speaker 1: got I think we beat them eight nine ten out

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Speaker 1: that's what impressed me. It was that to me, a

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Speaker 1: signature win that I felt we dominated. And we've had

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Speaker 1: some good signature wins. You go the Rams, you know,

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Speaker 1: San Francisco certainly, and then in Minnesota game all three

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Speaker 1: you know, barn Burners to an extent. I just feel

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Speaker 1: we're peeking at the right time. Yeah. I look back

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Speaker 1: at that game and I think that impressed me the most.

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Speaker 1: Are the names that are popping up. Rashim Green made

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Speaker 1: a play, McDougal had had a fumble that he scooped up.

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Speaker 1: Tyler Lockett didn't have his best game. I think he's

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Speaker 1: still affected by the injury and the illness. So dk

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Speaker 1: Metcalf steps up with six catches, seventy five yards at

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Speaker 1: Jacob Hollister at that tight end spot where the Hawks

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Speaker 1: have lost three tight ends this year. Jacob Hallister steps

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Speaker 1: up with six catches for forty four and then you

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Speaker 1: look at that backfield. You got a two headed monster now.

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Speaker 1: And now only did Rashaw Penny help in the run game,

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Speaker 1: he helped in the past game too. He had four

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Speaker 1: just the way that they're producing. Now. They're producing on

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Speaker 1: defense by causing turnovers, making plays, and now on the

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Speaker 1: offensive side, gods are stepping up. Now you feel like

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Speaker 1: you can rely on a Penny, You can rely on

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Speaker 1: a dk Medcalf, even though he still had his fumble.

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Speaker 1: Want to get rid of that. Um Josh Gordon, he's

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Speaker 1: just mister slant. All he does run a slant these

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Speaker 1: days is a third down. You want to isolate him,

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Speaker 1: you gotta slant there. So it's just I like seeing

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Speaker 1: different names pop up on the stat sheet. It's nice

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Speaker 1: to have your your goal to guys, your lockets. You're

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Speaker 1: carsting your Russell. But when everyone starts to join the party.

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Speaker 1: When Trey Flowers has two weeks in a row where

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Speaker 1: he has a pig, that's awesome. So the more names

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Speaker 1: that fill up the stat sheet the better. When you

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Speaker 1: it plays, you're gonna rely on your goal tows. But

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Speaker 1: every now and then you need a David Moore to

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Speaker 1: a touchdown. It's all about those twos and three is

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Speaker 1: contributing early so that later in the playoffs you know

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Speaker 1: you can count on him. That's Michael Bumpus where it's

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Speaker 1: Moyer also, you know, I thought the thing about Rashad

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Speaker 1: Penny is he's starting to get confidence now and he's

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Speaker 1: very physical player. He's very interesting to watch because he

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Speaker 1: got great feet. He runs away from people. That two

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Speaker 1: that group where you know Rashad Penny now coming on,

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Speaker 1: to find more playing time for him. The first series,

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Speaker 1: ask you guys this take away, Russell Wilson, which position

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Speaker 1: right now is playing the best and it's it's one

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Speaker 1: of those I've been racking my brain about and based

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Speaker 1: on the last games. Let's just go the last four games.

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Speaker 1: Let's put things out into quarters. I'd say, you know,

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Speaker 1: it comes to past defenses. Um and Google's making plays.

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Speaker 1: the secondary is tied uncoverage. They're now making the quarterback

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Speaker 1: coming from that. And we've seen that over the last

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Speaker 1: three games. The offensive line is starting to ware teams down.

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Speaker 1: light years ahead of us. You know, a year ago

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Speaker 1: they were better than us. Now you know that's crossed

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Speaker 1: the line again, we're better than they are. I'll tell

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Speaker 1: you later on we'll talk about Clayton and I have

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Speaker 1: to have him remind me. I think they're without a

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Speaker 1: first round pick for like three five five years. Goodness,

431
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Speaker 1: maybe percent of their salary cap are to ten players. Wow.

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Speaker 1: And then you know, they they felt like they had

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Speaker 1: a window here and it was a short window and

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Speaker 1: it looks like it's closing now. So they're not exactly

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Speaker 1: built for the future. Well, coming up next, speaking of

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Speaker 1: players that are built for the future, Cody Barton, and

437
00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:35,720
Speaker 1: he's not gone on the field a lot because he's

438
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Speaker 1: got some pretty good linebackers in front of him. But

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Speaker 1: coming up next on Hawks Live, we'll talk to rookie

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Speaker 1: linebacker Cody Barton. Hawks Slive every Thursday from seven to

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Speaker 1: nine live at snow Qualmy Casino on seven ten ESPN Seattle.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back, it's Hawks Live here at the snow Qualmy Casino.

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Speaker 1: Paul Moyer, Michael Bumpus, Dave Wyman, and we got on

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Speaker 1: the phone Cody Barton. Cody, thanks for joining us. How

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00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:08,080
Speaker 1: are you doing, dude? How are you guys? We're doing great? Man. Hey,

446
00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:11,679
Speaker 1: tell us as a rookie coming into town, did you

447
00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:14,520
Speaker 1: have family in town for Thanksgiving or what did you

448
00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:20,600
Speaker 1: do for Thanksgiving? Well, my my mom had a family

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Speaker 1: friend that lived up here, so I went to their

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Speaker 1: cabin for a couple hours and they went to kJ

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00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:29,800
Speaker 1: Rights house actually for the evening and all right, so

452
00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:33,040
Speaker 1: the veterans took care of you. Let me feel like

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Speaker 1: as at home. It was nice. Yeah. Yeah, it just

454
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Speaker 1: seems like were you kind of surprised by that because

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00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:41,040
Speaker 1: you know, like we talked to Ugo Amadi and he said,

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Speaker 1: you couldn't believe that Bobby Wagner came up and talked

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Speaker 1: to him, you know, when he first got there and

458
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Speaker 1: introduced himself. And it just seems like the veterans, you know,

459
00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:51,920
Speaker 1: in my day, you used to get hazed. And I'm

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Speaker 1: sitting next to Paul Moyer, who was a veteran when

461
00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:56,520
Speaker 1: I came in, and he treated me terrible. Well, you

462
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Speaker 1: deserve it. No, No, that's not right, total line back. Oh,

463
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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Cody, I didn't mean. Yeah. Yeah, So anyway,

464
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Speaker 1: I mean, it just seems like, were you kind of

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Speaker 1: surprised by the way that this team, kind of the

466
00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:12,160
Speaker 1: veterans really take the young guys in. Yeah, I mean,

467
00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:15,040
Speaker 1: going in, i'd heard that, you know, the rookies get

468
00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:17,199
Speaker 1: it pretty bad, this and that, But then I was

469
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Speaker 1: actually surprised at how welcoming they were and how helpful,

470
00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:23,439
Speaker 1: you know, on and off the field they were with

471
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Speaker 1: everything from day to day. And so, I mean, it

472
00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:29,560
Speaker 1: definitely makes you life easier. It makes you feel more welcome,

473
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Speaker 1: that's for sure. And just you know, I'm grateful for that.

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Speaker 1: Cody Brighton High School, Cottonwood Heights, Utah, My son went

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Speaker 1: on a recruiting trip trip to Utah really really liked it.

476
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Speaker 1: But talk about that, just how special Utah. And you know,

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Speaker 1: are you surprised the success they have right now? Um? No,

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Speaker 1: not at all. I Mean they're just you know, under

479
00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:55,080
Speaker 1: Winnie hammis is the things he preaches, a toughness, you know,

480
00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:56,800
Speaker 1: and just great and stuff like that, some of the

481
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Speaker 1: things that the Seahawks and so just being a tough,

482
00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:05,760
Speaker 1: physical team, you know, every single week, and just I mean,

483
00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:08,040
Speaker 1: you know, not the offense and balling out too. You know,

484
00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:09,879
Speaker 1: it just comes him to him. Utah has always been

485
00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:11,760
Speaker 1: known for their defense, and now that the offensive scoring

486
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Speaker 1: points are just it's finally starting to light up. I mean,

487
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Speaker 1: you're only a year removed from that. And you know,

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Speaker 1: I hate listening to the ESPN sccing net work, which

489
00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:25,000
Speaker 1: is one and the same. But talk about are they legit?

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Speaker 1: I mean, if they went up against you know, Clemson

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Speaker 1: or Ohio State, do they have the players to compete

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Speaker 1: and still win that thing? Yeah? I believe so, I

493
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Speaker 1: really I think so. And you know, especially on the

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Speaker 1: defensive side. I'm a defensive guy, so I'm always rooting

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Speaker 1: for the defense. I think I think Utah defense is

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Speaker 1: just as good as the defense. Well, we're three packed

497
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Speaker 1: twelve ten guys. I'm a ten Arizona State Stanford in

498
00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:53,160
Speaker 1: Washington State, so we're definitely pulling for Utah on this one.

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Speaker 1: Cody appreciate that. After training camp, you know, coaches were

500
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Speaker 1: talking about is how smart you are hiking play every

501
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Speaker 1: linebacker position. If you were to start a game next week,

502
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Speaker 1: where would you prefer to play? Inside? Outside? What do

503
00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:11,400
Speaker 1: you like? I like inside better just is only being

504
00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:13,680
Speaker 1: off the ball and being able to you know, dissect

505
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Speaker 1: and read my key and just shoot gaps and stuff

506
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,960
Speaker 1: like that. But at the end of the day, um,

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Speaker 1: you know, being outside, you know, playing outside backer tows

508
00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:23,480
Speaker 1: has its pros and stuff like that, being able to

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Speaker 1: hold edge and come off the edge, um, defend the

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Speaker 1: path on the perimeter and stuff. And so I mean

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Speaker 1: I just like playing To be honest, I did love

512
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Speaker 1: playing football. I liked you know, I played Mike and

513
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Speaker 1: Will in a three four and then also in a

514
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Speaker 1: four to three, and I always thought Will was like

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Speaker 1: kind of carefree, Like you know, the mic has to

516
00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:45,560
Speaker 1: make all the calls everything, but you get to just

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Speaker 1: run around and make plays on the backside. And is

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Speaker 1: that is that the same case? In your defense. I

519
00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:58,600
Speaker 1: mean I think I think every position, any linebacker position,

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Speaker 1: that's where you can run around in and be able

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Speaker 1: to just make plays. I mean, obviously at the my position,

522
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:06,240
Speaker 1: you got to get the calls, but then once that

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Speaker 1: ball snapped, I think all the backers have, you know,

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Speaker 1: a great chance to fly around and make their plays.

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean? So, Cody, the last three

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Speaker 1: games of defense is that's been playing lights out and

527
00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:20,960
Speaker 1: against three good offensive teams, and you know, we're all

528
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:23,920
Speaker 1: trying to finger point you know what what is it

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Speaker 1: is you're watching? You know, is it tighter secondary play,

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00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:29,600
Speaker 1: is a better pass rush? But what do you think

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Speaker 1: it is? I mean, I'm assuming you're not really calling

532
00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:35,000
Speaker 1: different plays. But why do you think such a drastic,

533
00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:40,359
Speaker 1: you know, success the last three weeks? I think, to me,

534
00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:44,399
Speaker 1: it's just everyone just realized the importance of just doing

535
00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:46,000
Speaker 1: your job and how it all fits together like a

536
00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:49,080
Speaker 1: big puzzle pieces doing doing your one eleventh and how

537
00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:53,840
Speaker 1: it all just fits together, you know, just um, you know,

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00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:56,159
Speaker 1: whether it's just standing being true to your gap and

539
00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:58,399
Speaker 1: not doing not making stuff up and trying to do

540
00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:00,240
Speaker 1: the extra to go make a crazy play, to doing

541
00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:04,080
Speaker 1: your job and it just it just looks really good

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00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:07,919
Speaker 1: on film. Hey, Cody, Um, during camp, you and Bur

543
00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:11,960
Speaker 1: Curving were roommates and obviously he went to dub your you. Um,

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Speaker 1: is there any smack talking going on now? I mean,

545
00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:16,080
Speaker 1: you know the youths are balling, the U dub is down.

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00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:19,360
Speaker 1: How are you guys handling that situation? Oh? We hate

547
00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:25,080
Speaker 1: each other? Um, notts kid. Now Ben's my good buddy. Um.

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Speaker 1: I mean we had first we were talking smack, like

549
00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:29,359
Speaker 1: the training camp and this and that, and as a

550
00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:31,359
Speaker 1: season went on a chorus and then obviously when you

551
00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:35,200
Speaker 1: talk played Washington, you were talking smack and and so

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00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:37,879
Speaker 1: I mean it's kind of it's kind of set down now,

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00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:40,400
Speaker 1: just because you know, Washington hasn't been doing as good

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00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:42,920
Speaker 1: this year as Utah. But at the same time they'll

555
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:47,359
Speaker 1: always be like, well you never beat me. So, Cody,

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Speaker 1: who else were you recruited by? I mean, you're a

557
00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:52,080
Speaker 1: Utah kid who grew up there and went to high school.

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00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:53,920
Speaker 1: I'm sure it's a place you wanted to go. But

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00:26:53,960 --> 00:27:00,960
Speaker 1: where where else were you recruited? I briefly talked to Washington,

560
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:04,080
Speaker 1: stayed at one point. I believe Colorado came and talk

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00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:07,240
Speaker 1: to me one time. We were stayed one time. But

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Speaker 1: besides that, just like I think you talked, my only

563
00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:14,320
Speaker 1: official scholarship off for I ever got and so but

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00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:16,280
Speaker 1: then again that was my dream school. My parents played there,

565
00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:20,080
Speaker 1: my brother was playing there, my uncle's played there, and

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00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:21,760
Speaker 1: so that was just that was my dream school. So

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00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:23,960
Speaker 1: once they offered me going to my senior season, I committed,

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00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:26,399
Speaker 1: And so any any school that wanted to come and

569
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Speaker 1: recruit me after that, I just I would just let

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00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:32,440
Speaker 1: it know. Hey, I'm I'm going to Utah. Yeah, you

571
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:37,080
Speaker 1: pretty much had no choice there with your parents everything. Yeah, yeah,

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00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:41,160
Speaker 1: Cody is my sister was broken. Go ahead, no, no,

573
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:44,440
Speaker 1: you go ahead. I'm saying my sister was broken the streets.

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00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:46,879
Speaker 1: She was actually committed to USC from volleyball for a

575
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Speaker 1: little bit, and then family ties got during the end,

576
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:51,960
Speaker 1: the guilt or something I was trying to flip, and

577
00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:56,040
Speaker 1: so she came back to Utah. Hey, we were talking

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00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:58,600
Speaker 1: to Ben Burke Curvin the other day, and you know,

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Speaker 1: I was asking him, you know, about how much there's

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Speaker 1: probably a point where you don't want to bother Bobby

581
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:08,600
Speaker 1: and kJ and Michael. But I mean as a rookie

582
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:11,000
Speaker 1: and you seem like a pretty curious guy. And I

583
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:14,120
Speaker 1: see you're a great communicator. You talk about you're obviously

584
00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:16,159
Speaker 1: trying to soak up as much as you can. And

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00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:19,480
Speaker 1: Ben said, yeah, we asked him. We ask them lots

586
00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:22,200
Speaker 1: of questions, but we try not to be too annoying.

587
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:25,960
Speaker 1: But tell us about how much those guys have helped

588
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:28,320
Speaker 1: you as far as stuff on the field, and what

589
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:30,240
Speaker 1: are some of the things that you've learned from kJ,

590
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:34,680
Speaker 1: Michael h and Bobby. Yeah, I mean all three of

591
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:37,080
Speaker 1: these guys that helps out a ton. And I know Jim,

592
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:40,840
Speaker 1: you know, like Ben's right about, you know, we try

593
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:44,040
Speaker 1: to ask me as many questions as possible without bothering him,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Because if someone's asking you

595
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:48,200
Speaker 1: questions every minute, every day, I mean I'd get old.

596
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:52,960
Speaker 1: So you know, we try to be careful with it.

597
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 1: But at the same time, you know, I'm trying to

598
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 1: I'm trying to get as much as I can. And

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00:28:56,920 --> 00:29:00,320
Speaker 1: just all three of these guys, you know, just taught

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00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:03,200
Speaker 1: me just little little secrets here and there, just little

601
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:06,840
Speaker 1: styles of how you know, we all three different playing thousands,

602
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:09,280
Speaker 1: how what works for them, what doesn't work for them?

603
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:11,320
Speaker 1: And so I'm just I just trying to nitpick every

604
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:13,800
Speaker 1: little thing they do and just see what works for

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00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:15,000
Speaker 1: me and what doesn't. You know what I mean, It's

606
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 1: just find my own style. Hey, Cody, in college, you

607
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 1: typically play about ten to twelve games, So you're entering

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00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 1: your twelfth week in the NFL. Does it seem like

609
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:27,600
Speaker 1: it's dragging on that it's long? Um, how's that adjustment

610
00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:30,719
Speaker 1: going for you? No, I think it's it's actually going

611
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:33,480
Speaker 1: by really fast. I've heard, you know, some of the guys,

612
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:36,280
Speaker 1: the older guys, were telling me that, you know, there's

613
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Speaker 1: this thing called the rookie wall or whatever it's called,

614
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:41,400
Speaker 1: and some guys, you know, get burnt out this and that.

615
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 1: But you know, for me, I feel great. I feel

616
00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 1: like the seasons just flying by, were already already have

617
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:50,160
Speaker 1: four more games left flying by. Yeah, I always felt

618
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:52,200
Speaker 1: like it. It's great because you just play football. You

619
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:54,480
Speaker 1: don't have to do any homework. The only thing is

620
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:57,920
Speaker 1: you gotta pay bills. Now that's that's different than college.

621
00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 1: But homework you're getting trade. I just played football homework.

622
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 1: I don't remember homework, so I no, I had a

623
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Speaker 1: lot of girlfriends that did my homework. Come, Cody, what

624
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Speaker 1: do you like to do in your day off, especially

625
00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:14,000
Speaker 1: Monday nights, so you go into Tuesday, you finally get

626
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:16,320
Speaker 1: something to relax. What what keeps you busy on your

627
00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 1: day off night? Back when it was warm, on my

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Speaker 1: day offs, I would, you know, all my day offs.

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Speaker 1: You know, we're going in the mornings, I do MANI workout,

630
00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:27,880
Speaker 1: then we'll do some little bit of film, just like

631
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Speaker 1: just the players, and then we're typically downe by like

632
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Speaker 1: nowt one, So we had the rest of the day

633
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Speaker 1: just do whatever we want. Um when it was and

634
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:39,200
Speaker 1: when it was warm, I would go, I've got towards

635
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Speaker 1: like snow Qualmie somewhere over there's some big river down there.

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Speaker 1: I just go try to find fishing holes for a

637
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Speaker 1: few hours and then come back and watch film. But

638
00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:49,000
Speaker 1: I was getting colder. I just you know, I might

639
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:52,200
Speaker 1: lay around watch TV, just watched a lot of film.

640
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Speaker 1: To be honest, Hey, it sounds like my life. Yeah,

641
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Speaker 1: your linebacker stick together. Hey, Cody, thanks so much for

642
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Speaker 1: taking the time. Brother. I appreciate you coming on with us,

643
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 1: and uh, keep doing what you're doing and have a

644
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 1: great rest of the season. We'll do. Thanks for having

645
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Speaker 1: me on. Thanks Cody. There he goes Cody Barton Rookie Sensation.

646
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Speaker 1: I'm really looking forward to to Friday Night. I am too. Yeah,

647
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Speaker 1: and I think you. I really think they're physical, and

648
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 1: I do think they can compete. It'll be a battle,

649
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 1: but I think they got that moxie. Yea, Well it's

650
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 1: in Santa Clair. Yeah, you've never been to that. No,

651
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:33,240
Speaker 1: there was no chance. Now there was the championship for me.

652
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 1: Let's not throw shots at each other right before the break.

653
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 1: We got to go to break. Oh yeah, when we

654
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:41,160
Speaker 1: come back, you can give him a hard time. All right.

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Speaker 1: Coming up next, we got the Professor John Clayton. That's

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Speaker 1: next on Hawk Live. Hawks's Live every Thursday from seven

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Speaker 1: to nine live. It's snow Qualmy Casino on seven ten ESPN, Seattle. Hey,

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Speaker 1: thousands of fans here. Yeah, it's Paul Moyer, Michael Bompa's

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Speaker 1: day Woman. And now we got the professor John Clayton. John,

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Speaker 1: how you doing. I'm doing great. Now you can boogie

665
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Speaker 1: on down, book down. What do you mean about that

666
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Speaker 1: was the last song? Yeah, John, you guys are so hip. Yes, yeah,

667
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Speaker 1: it's like I'm in the funk. So it's like, I'm

668
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Speaker 1: sorry you are a funk guy. Makes my funks of

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Speaker 1: p funks because I want to get funkst up. Whoa Clayton,

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Speaker 1: You were making me really nervous there for a second.

671
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 1: You were so you were, John, you should have come

672
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Speaker 1: up here. They've got a great steak place here. They've

673
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 1: got a great wine selection. If you were drinking a wine,

674
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Speaker 1: what's your favorite one. It's weird because I had to

675
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 1: change in the last couple of years because I'm a

676
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 1: big cabernet guy, particularly California cabernet, and for whatever reason,

677
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:58,239
Speaker 1: for lighter reasons, and I guess maybe to you know,

678
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 1: kind of keep my weight down. I've been aking more cabernet. Why.

679
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:05,320
Speaker 1: I have no idea. Yeah, John, you really have a

680
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:07,680
Speaker 1: weight problem. Come on, yeah, I mean my one hundred

681
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 1: and sixty five pounds is really causing a big tissue. Well, no,

682
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 1: you're going up and down the sidelines and avoiding like

683
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 1: Xavier Rhodes, throwing his helmet on the sidelines. You saw

684
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson throwing his wristband from the sidelines. What'd you

685
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 1: see from what stood out to you? John? We answered

686
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 1: this question that win over Minnesota, you know, and even

687
00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:31,960
Speaker 1: though it turned out to be thirty seven thirty, I

688
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 1: just thought that there was it was much more of

689
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 1: a dominant win than that score indicated. But what was

690
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:38,720
Speaker 1: the thing that stood out to you in that game?

691
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 1: It just stood out that, you know, the the Vikings

692
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 1: aren't and again when we saw them in the preseason

693
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Speaker 1: and we were there in Minnesota, you know, I thought

694
00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 1: Minnesota had the better team, and because I didn't know

695
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Speaker 1: where the pass rush of Seattle was going to be.

696
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 1: And what's evolved is now Seattle getting a better pass rush.

697
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 1: They've become the better team. Getting Quandre Digs at the

698
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 1: safety positions made him a better team. Certainly getting Jadevian Clowne,

699
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:04,760
Speaker 1: he's made him a better team. And so you know,

700
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:07,760
Speaker 1: it's like they're all both playoff teams, and they're both

701
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:10,319
Speaker 1: good teams. I mean, each of those teams are among

702
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:12,920
Speaker 1: the best five teams in football. But I think Seattle

703
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:15,719
Speaker 1: has come out better. But Minnesota is still good. Don't

704
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 1: count them out for the division because again they can

705
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Speaker 1: still compete against Green Bay, maybe be able to get

706
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Speaker 1: Green Bay. But they were good. But I'll tell you

707
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:27,720
Speaker 1: the one guy that was absolutely and horrible is Xavier Rhods.

708
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Speaker 1: And you know, it was funny because we were remarking

709
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:34,360
Speaker 1: about it, and he's had a bad season. He's twenty

710
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:36,719
Speaker 1: nine years old, he's a two time pro bowler, he's

711
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:39,080
Speaker 1: making a big amount of money. He won't be back

712
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 1: with the team next year. I can guarantee that because

713
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:43,200
Speaker 1: he's in a couple of years of his contract and

714
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:46,320
Speaker 1: he's going to be let go. But I'm just amazed

715
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Speaker 1: how bad he was. It got to the point where

716
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:50,479
Speaker 1: one of the guys over in the sideline says, you watch,

717
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:53,200
Speaker 1: if they put roads back in the game, he's gonna

718
00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:55,600
Speaker 1: get They're gonna throw on him and beat him. Well,

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00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 1: fortunately for I guess maybe it was because of the

720
00:34:57,600 --> 00:34:59,480
Speaker 1: incident with the throwing of the helmet. You know, they

721
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:01,520
Speaker 1: didn't put it back in the game for one series

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00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 1: and then they came back and I think they know

723
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 1: DK Metcalf caught a short pass on him and they

724
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:08,279
Speaker 1: didn't get it first down. But I mean Rhodes has

725
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:10,799
Speaker 1: been terrible, and honestly, what it came down to is

726
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 1: that his speed is gone and he didn't want to produce.

727
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:18,840
Speaker 1: He didn't seem to want to care. Yeah, it was

728
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,400
Speaker 1: you know, because there are some games where I you know,

729
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 1: I thought he was tight in coverage on the short routes.

730
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 1: But they've got beat what for nineteen touchdowns going into

731
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:29,360
Speaker 1: that game. Here's what we do know, John, the wild

732
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:32,320
Speaker 1: card team is not coming out from the NFC East.

733
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 1: I mean, this is shocking. I'm shocked again. You know,

734
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:39,840
Speaker 1: you think that you know, the Cowboys would rally, you

735
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:42,560
Speaker 1: get a little vote of confidence for Garrett from Jones,

736
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:46,120
Speaker 1: but you know, how do you think this thing's playing idea?

737
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:48,920
Speaker 1: I mean, Jones has already said he's not gonna fire Garrett,

738
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:51,040
Speaker 1: you know in the in the season. But you know,

739
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 1: this game here, you shocked how bad they're getting beat Well,

740
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 1: you know, one hundred percent, because they come out, they

741
00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:59,359
Speaker 1: get the good like it did in the Thursday and

742
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 1: the Thanks game, got the opening drive and you figure, okay,

743
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:05,720
Speaker 1: they're back to being the Cowboys. Remember they got fifteen

744
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl caliber team or fifteen guys who have been

745
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 1: to the Pro Bowl under roster, not saying that there

746
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 1: are fifteen Pro Bowl caliber teams currently under roster. But

747
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:16,840
Speaker 1: they come out with all this talent, they get the

748
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:19,719
Speaker 1: opening touchdown drive like they did in the Thanksgiving game,

749
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 1: and now they were down twenty four to seventeen, down

750
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:25,920
Speaker 1: twenty four to fourteen, but they just look awful. I mean,

751
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 1: it took them until this game, over two hundred and

752
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:31,839
Speaker 1: twenty six plays to get a turnover with all the

753
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:34,000
Speaker 1: talent that they have on defense. I mean, this is

754
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:37,359
Speaker 1: one of the most underachieving teams in football. And I'm

755
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 1: stunned because you got Dak Prescott with a number one offense.

756
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 1: You know, they kind of went against the grain, not

757
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 1: running the ball as much. Was Ezekiel Elliott making more

758
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:48,920
Speaker 1: of a passing team, which is probably a mistake. But

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00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 1: I am just absolutely stunned. And remember this now, the

760
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:56,800
Speaker 1: NFC East is the worst of vision since two thousand

761
00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 1: and eight, where you saw the Seahawks, you saw the

762
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,720
Speaker 1: NFC West. You know, they were a three forty one

763
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:06,240
Speaker 1: team in out of division games. This team entering tonight,

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00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:10,120
Speaker 1: the NFC East was three thirty three and they're losing

765
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:13,440
Speaker 1: right now in this game. Hey, John Obviously we're gonna

766
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 1: watch the Rams versus Seahawks when they go down to LA.

767
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:18,919
Speaker 1: But the next big game Mosthawks fans will be looking

768
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:22,320
Speaker 1: at is the nine is versus the Saints. Who should

769
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Speaker 1: the twelves be rooting for in that game? Absolutely, it's

770
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 1: got to be New Orleans. I don't care about the

771
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:29,720
Speaker 1: number one seed. Make sure you get into the number

772
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 1: one or number two seed, and you do that by

773
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Speaker 1: winning a division. If you wrote for San Francisco, you

774
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:38,120
Speaker 1: leave yourself no room for error, and if you do that,

775
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 1: you're hurting yourself. Sure, you can lose this game, still

776
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 1: be able to win in the last game of the

777
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 1: season against San Francisco, but what if you lose to

778
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Speaker 1: the Rams. What if you lose in an upset to

779
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:51,319
Speaker 1: one of the other two teams coming up? It would

780
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 1: be horrible. And so you take care of business and

781
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:57,279
Speaker 1: the most important thing. And Michael Bombas you know as

782
00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:00,319
Speaker 1: a coach, what are you going to preach? When? Did

783
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:03,280
Speaker 1: the worry about the rest? Later? And sort New Orleans

784
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:05,400
Speaker 1: may get the number one seed and maybe you have

785
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 1: to travel to New Orleans to try to get to

786
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:09,799
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. But make sure you can get some

787
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:12,960
Speaker 1: kind of a bye week and by winning against the Rams,

788
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:15,600
Speaker 1: winning against you know, whatever it's going to be. You know,

789
00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 1: make sure that San Francisco doesn't win this division. And

790
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 1: with New Orleans is not guaranteed, they're not going to

791
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 1: win the division. But if New Orleans wins this game,

792
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:26,439
Speaker 1: it hurts the chances of the forty nine ers winning

793
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:28,879
Speaker 1: a division. Yeah, I mean, I could see it playing out.

794
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:32,279
Speaker 1: We get to seed and you know San Francisco has

795
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:34,439
Speaker 1: to go to New Orleans. You know, in the second round,

796
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:37,880
Speaker 1: you know we would host potentially Green Bay, and you know,

797
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 1: I see it playing out we host San Francisco again

798
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:45,240
Speaker 1: if we were the number two seeds. So I agree, John,

799
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 1: you've got to take care of your division. But we're

800
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:51,560
Speaker 1: tendant too. It's only happened three times, nineteen eighty four,

801
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:55,839
Speaker 1: twenty thirteen, I believe. And this year. How many Pro

802
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 1: bowlers though, are we going to have normally a Tendant

803
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Speaker 1: two team? You're looking at six seven, eight guys, I

804
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:07,240
Speaker 1: mean one two? How many guys volting up? Because again

805
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:09,400
Speaker 1: I think you can see Jadevi and Clowney should be

806
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:12,440
Speaker 1: a Pro Bowl guy. Uh, Bobby Wagner should be a

807
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:15,160
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl guy. I think you can see the Chris Carson,

808
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson Pro Bowl guys. And it was interesting because

809
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:20,800
Speaker 1: you know, I track all the voting on the fans

810
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 1: and for the first time an offensive lineman UH emerged

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Speaker 1: in the top ten for voting UH in the fans

812
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:33,359
Speaker 1: this week. And you know who it is, Joey Hunter, No,

813
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:37,759
Speaker 1: unbelievable in the top ten. Joey Hunter's only sort of

814
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:41,120
Speaker 1: three games came out as number ten And it's like,

815
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Speaker 1: how about that? And so fan voting, yess correct? How

816
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:49,279
Speaker 1: I mean, everybody's jumping on the bandwagon. And again you

817
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:51,480
Speaker 1: know how it goes because you know you've got the

818
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:55,160
Speaker 1: like San Francisco. It's funny because it's almost two to

819
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Speaker 1: one with the NFC leading the AFC. As far as

820
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:01,719
Speaker 1: the voting for the fan vote in the top ten,

821
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Speaker 1: I mean, it's like a it's ridiculous number. It's like

822
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Speaker 1: one forty six too, was at one forty six to

823
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Speaker 1: one h It's like one fifty six to one thirty

824
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 1: four something like that. It's ridiculous for one hundred and

825
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:16,799
Speaker 1: ninety votes. But it's amazing to think that, you know,

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Speaker 1: you can see that uh, you know, Seattle is now

827
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 1: gaining more momentum, and the NFC teams are gaining more

828
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:25,879
Speaker 1: momentum because you know they're all eight, nine, ten win

829
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 1: teams and they're just like dominating the voting. And so

830
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:32,000
Speaker 1: Seattle is now up to twelve as far as the

831
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Speaker 1: voting in the All Star Game by the fans. But

832
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Speaker 1: you know, you can you can see that. You know,

833
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:40,920
Speaker 1: Wagner's gonna make it without question. Russell Wilson's gonna make

834
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:43,760
Speaker 1: it without question, Chris Carson's gonna make it without Russians

835
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:45,919
Speaker 1: because he's more at nineteen yards away, eleven yards away

836
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:48,440
Speaker 1: from a thousand yards season. And you know, you know,

837
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 1: dud Tyler Lockett's going to be in the mix, but

838
00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:53,359
Speaker 1: he had to be maybe more of a alternate than

839
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:56,320
Speaker 1: anything else. But you know, the two guys that aren't

840
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:59,040
Speaker 1: going to get in there are playing now at a

841
00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:01,600
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl alert level like they did last year, and

842
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:06,360
Speaker 1: that's Quandre Diggs and Bradley McDougall. Speaking of Pro Bowl

843
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:08,920
Speaker 1: m I looked up the stats in kJ is like

844
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 1: number six or eight in tackles them in the NFL.

845
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Speaker 1: What are the chances that he gets in? He started

846
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:17,120
Speaker 1: his own campaign and try to get guys. Definitely, what

847
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:19,480
Speaker 1: do you think about kJ? It's gonna be tough because

848
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:21,920
Speaker 1: what happens now is that you got kJ. Right, It's

849
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:23,960
Speaker 1: kind of like Thomas Davis who had to wait to

850
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:26,359
Speaker 1: his like thirty one, thirty two years old to get

851
00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 1: into his first Pro Bowl. I mean, Kj's playing great,

852
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:31,440
Speaker 1: and he is playing at a Pro Bowl level. But

853
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 1: now you're going against the three four outside linebackers, and

854
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 1: those are the guys that tend to get in. And

855
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 1: you look over at Green Bay, I mean you got

856
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 1: the two Smiths that they signed and both in you know,

857
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:45,800
Speaker 1: double digits as far as where they are as sacks,

858
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 1: and so that's gonna make it tough because you know,

859
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:50,759
Speaker 1: outside linebackers have a tougher time. I mean, you know,

860
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:54,080
Speaker 1: the top two whatever year it's going to be is Luke,

861
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:57,360
Speaker 1: Keekley and Bobby Wagner. Bobby Wagner I think has a

862
00:41:57,400 --> 00:41:59,319
Speaker 1: little bit of a lead over Luke as far as

863
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:02,360
Speaker 1: a fan boat, and ultimately it'll probably be Bobby Wagner.

864
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:05,440
Speaker 1: But you know, it's a The outside linebacker spot is

865
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:09,759
Speaker 1: tough mainly because you're going against the pass rushing outside linebackers.

866
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:13,839
Speaker 1: All right, Professor, Well, we appreciate it. You enjoy your

867
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:19,439
Speaker 1: next cabernet. Okay, boogie down. We'll talk to you tomorrow. Thanks.

868
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 1: Hi John, There he goes the Professor John Clayton coming

869
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 1: up next. We were talking about awards and things like that.

870
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 1: How about Coach of the Year, GM of the Year.

871
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:30,759
Speaker 1: You know, we're going down the closing stretch here with

872
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 1: the Rams on Sunday, so we thought it'd be good

873
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Speaker 1: to take a look back at all the players and

874
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 1: the plays that stood up over the past four games.

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Speaker 1: There's there's nothing nothing better than a good old fashioned

884
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:17,920
Speaker 1: concussion story. Yeah, you know what they're they're not as

885
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 1: back in the day we called them. And you got

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00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:22,160
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888
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:27,120
Speaker 1: if you got a concussion. I mean that's what it's

889
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:29,279
Speaker 1: about today, you know, it's a little more serious. And

890
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:32,399
Speaker 1: Dave was there. One of my last actually was really

891
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 1: my last game I ever played. And I'm I'm knocked out, man,

892
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:40,360
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm I'm snoring. They told me I was snoring.

893
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:42,840
Speaker 1: I think I'm the only one that reported that. The

894
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 1: trainers came. But I was like dropping into my hook

895
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:47,440
Speaker 1: zone and Paul made a hit and I was like

896
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 1: the first guy on the scene, and I'm like, how

897
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:51,640
Speaker 1: does that happen? Man? Like from the time that you

898
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:55,640
Speaker 1: were in the air to hitting the ground, You're like, like,

899
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 1: I had a guy named Ben Manoah, we're playing Cleveland.

900
00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 1: I can't And I hit him really yes, Oh his

901
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:07,880
Speaker 1: name was Tim Tim Manila. Yeah, okay, I get it,

902
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:12,480
Speaker 1: you know, Steve Steve, Steve Wyman over there, um and

903
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:15,960
Speaker 1: and I because I watched it afterwards and I said, wow, okay,

904
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:17,719
Speaker 1: it was good hit. But I caught him in the

905
00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:22,400
Speaker 1: knee and I really got the temple and you know,

906
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:25,400
Speaker 1: the funny part, this was about the only funny part

907
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:27,800
Speaker 1: because I couldn't remember my daughter being born, and I

908
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:31,719
Speaker 1: remember Kurt Warner. It was my good buddy. Was running back, goes,

909
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:35,359
Speaker 1: what what else don't you remember? And I'm like, I don't.

910
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 1: He goes, do you know you're married? I go what?

911
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:40,960
Speaker 1: I don't even know I was married. But I remember

912
00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:44,320
Speaker 1: Jimmy Weitzel, our trainer at the time, who's you know,

913
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:47,719
Speaker 1: recently passed the God bless him. And all of a sudden,

914
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 1: I wake up and I see Jimmy. I go, Jimmy,

915
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:53,400
Speaker 1: I had the weirdest dream. I dreamt it. I was

916
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:56,440
Speaker 1: knocked out in the game and he starts laughing, and

917
00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:58,520
Speaker 1: you know, then you go back and you watch the

918
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:01,719
Speaker 1: TV part of it. I'm walking to their sideline and

919
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:05,440
Speaker 1: yeah it was bad. Yeah. Some people find that disturbing.

920
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 1: We find it humor. Yes, let's what we do, all right? Uh,

921
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:12,080
Speaker 1: what do you guys think about We were talking about

922
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 1: Pro Bowlers and things like that, but what about for

923
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 1: the Seahawks. I think we all would agree that as

924
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 1: far as the Seahawks at the three quarters poll here

925
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:24,879
Speaker 1: that Russell Wilson's the MVP and he's in the race

926
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:27,960
Speaker 1: for it. If it wasn't for you know, Lamar Jackson

927
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:33,880
Speaker 1: certainly NFL, certainly he's the Seahawk MVP offensively, but you

928
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:36,440
Speaker 1: guys still think he has a chance. I mean because

929
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:39,319
Speaker 1: you know, he just pulls out game after game after game.

930
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:42,960
Speaker 1: He never does it in super dazzling ways, but like

931
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:46,080
Speaker 1: he does in you know, little chunks, like every once

932
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:47,959
Speaker 1: in a while you see him make this amazing throw,

933
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:49,840
Speaker 1: like the last time they played the Rams, the on

934
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:53,040
Speaker 1: the run throw to Tyler Lockett. Nobody makes that throw

935
00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 1: but Russell. But do you think he seriously has a

936
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:58,480
Speaker 1: chance to be MVP this year? I think for him

937
00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:02,160
Speaker 1: to stay in the Racemar would have to you know

938
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 1: what in the bed a game and Russell would need

939
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:08,520
Speaker 1: a four touchdown, zero pick game. Again at this point,

940
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:11,880
Speaker 1: that Monday night football game where Lamar beat the you

941
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:14,719
Speaker 1: know what out of who they play on Monday Night, Um, uh,

942
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:17,880
Speaker 1: well it was the Rams, the Rams. Yeah, just just

943
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 1: destroyed them, did his thing, and Russell had his worst

944
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:23,680
Speaker 1: game of the season. That's where Lamar got the separation.

945
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:27,080
Speaker 1: So at this point, like Russell can keep pacing and

946
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:29,600
Speaker 1: keep the like two steps behind him, but Lamar has

947
00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:31,719
Speaker 1: to do something that kind of uh, he just needs

948
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:33,319
Speaker 1: to play a bad game, maybe lose a couple of games.

949
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:37,239
Speaker 1: That's the only way I see Russell realistically getting back

950
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:39,879
Speaker 1: in this thing. But he's uh, the clear number two

951
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:41,520
Speaker 1: at this point. You know, I hate to say it

952
00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:44,480
Speaker 1: because I love Russell. I've made a case for him,

953
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:46,600
Speaker 1: you know, Rookie of the Year. And you know I

954
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 1: had a battle with John Clayton that you know they

955
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:52,520
Speaker 1: had Andrew Luck and I it doesn't even make sense

956
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:54,800
Speaker 1: that you would pick Andrew Luck. I mean, the numbers

957
00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:58,440
Speaker 1: don't that don't warrant it. And there were some reasons why.

958
00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:00,880
Speaker 1: And there's been you know, couple of years ago when

959
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:02,520
Speaker 1: he led the league, two years ago, when he led

960
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:06,200
Speaker 1: the league in touchdowns, I thought he had a chance there.

961
00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:09,400
Speaker 1: But you know, they didn't have a great record if Russell.

962
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:12,640
Speaker 1: They finished fourteen and two, and he leads the league

963
00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:16,200
Speaker 1: and touchdowns and it's gonna have to fall down. We

964
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:19,480
Speaker 1: got four games left. There's no question Lamar Jackson and

965
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:21,480
Speaker 1: the Ravens are gonna have to take a step back.

966
00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 1: But the reason why I started off like I hate

967
00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:27,359
Speaker 1: to even say this, Lamar Jackson is so special, you guys.

968
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:29,800
Speaker 1: I mean I've never seen anything like him. You know,

969
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:32,360
Speaker 1: he not he can throw it, he can run it,

970
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 1: and he's so successful, he's so confident. Now we'll see

971
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:38,640
Speaker 1: what happens in the next four games. I mean, that's

972
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:41,120
Speaker 1: that's the first twelve. You never know the next four.

973
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:43,840
Speaker 1: The Seahawks have the Rams, We've got Carolina, we got

974
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 1: we end up in San Francisco. That's gonna be a

975
00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 1: huge game. It can. I also could not care less

976
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:55,600
Speaker 1: about the MVP other than if it's Russell Wilson. I

977
00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:58,560
Speaker 1: think he deserves his due as one of the great

978
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:02,840
Speaker 1: quarterbacks in the history of the NFL. Yeah, and it's amazing.

979
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:05,959
Speaker 1: Every week we look at a different stat and Rabel

980
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:07,560
Speaker 1: and I do this and keys to the game. Now

981
00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:10,279
Speaker 1: where you can get a Russell stat, you know, whether

982
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:15,400
Speaker 1: it's thirty two overtime and fourth quarter comeback wins, you know,

983
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:18,960
Speaker 1: three thousand yards and twenty plus tds in their first

984
00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:22,120
Speaker 1: eight seasons. He's up there with Peyton Manning. I mean,

985
00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 1: it's just it's ridiculous the company he keeps in the

986
00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 1: in the records that he has. So, yeah, MVP fine

987
00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:30,960
Speaker 1: if he never gets it, you know, And the same

988
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 1: thing with Pete Carroll and John Schneider Schneider should be

989
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:37,799
Speaker 1: m or you know, GM of the Year this year,

990
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:41,439
Speaker 1: considering what he's done the last couple of years, trading away,

991
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:44,520
Speaker 1: what about getting clowney, you know, losing Earl Thomas and

992
00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:47,319
Speaker 1: Richard Sherman, all that same thing with Pete. But if

993
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:49,560
Speaker 1: we don't get those but we're going to the playoffs

994
00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:54,080
Speaker 1: and we're possibly winning another super Bowl. Who cares. An

995
00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:57,480
Speaker 1: MVP winner has not won a super Bowl in over

996
00:48:57,600 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 1: twenty years. So give it to Lamar Jackson. I'll take

997
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 1: this way. Here's what I do know. Russell is gonna

998
00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:06,439
Speaker 1: be a Hall of Famer. Lamar Jackson. Time will tell

999
00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:10,759
Speaker 1: right now, He's he's a really special patch. I mean

1000
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:13,360
Speaker 1: it's you know, he does so many good things, and

1001
00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:16,759
Speaker 1: that's why rarely do I defend. You know, if this

1002
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:21,920
Speaker 1: was Aaron Rodgers or Drew Brees or or even Tom Brady,

1003
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:25,000
Speaker 1: I'd say they can't do what Russell Wilson can do.

1004
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:28,560
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson can do things that Russell can't do, and

1005
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:30,480
Speaker 1: that's one of the first times I've seen that, and

1006
00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:33,480
Speaker 1: he is a very special player. I'm interested if if

1007
00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:37,960
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson can develop a deep ball like Russell Wilson

1008
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:40,600
Speaker 1: could you imagine a good point the damage that he's

1009
00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:42,359
Speaker 1: already doing damage in the league. But if he can

1010
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:44,239
Speaker 1: develop them, I'm gonna sit back here, I'm gonna toss

1011
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:46,239
Speaker 1: his ball twenty five thirty yards in the air and

1012
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:49,799
Speaker 1: drop a dime. That's his next step. And I think

1013
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 1: that's what he's gonna have to do to save his career,

1014
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:54,279
Speaker 1: because right now he's just young man. Young you can

1015
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:57,120
Speaker 1: take these hits, you can move Father Time's undefeated. So

1016
00:49:57,200 --> 00:49:59,680
Speaker 1: eventually he's gonna slow down. If he can develop that

1017
00:49:59,840 --> 00:50:01,840
Speaker 1: in to his game, he may be one of the

1018
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:04,279
Speaker 1: greatest quarters can do whatever he wants. And here's the

1019
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:07,719
Speaker 1: other reason why Lamar is in the MVP race. It's

1020
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:10,080
Speaker 1: not what he's done. They're they're ten and two. They're

1021
00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:12,479
Speaker 1: they're the best team right now in football. They've beaten

1022
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:15,520
Speaker 1: New England, they've beaten the Seahawks, they've crushed the Rams,

1023
00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:18,320
Speaker 1: They've beat San Francisco. You're the best team in the

1024
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:22,759
Speaker 1: NFL and your quarterbacks having a special year. Again. All

1025
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:26,000
Speaker 1: you out there who love Russell, I'm the biggest Russell

1026
00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:28,640
Speaker 1: fan in the world. Lamar Jackson right now deserves it

1027
00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:32,160
Speaker 1: over Russell. All right, Defensive MVP for the Seahawks. Just

1028
00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:34,279
Speaker 1: on this team, who do you think has had so

1029
00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:38,800
Speaker 1: far the biggest impacts on this team defensively? You know,

1030
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:41,080
Speaker 1: and it's funny Quandre Digs you might say that, but

1031
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:43,840
Speaker 1: he's only been here for what he's played in three games,

1032
00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:47,880
Speaker 1: though still have the biggest He still had the biggest

1033
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:51,279
Speaker 1: impact though. I think the addition of him changed the

1034
00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:54,120
Speaker 1: identity of his team. Like the last three weeks, they've

1035
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:56,520
Speaker 1: been playing their best ball and that's when Quandre has

1036
00:50:56,560 --> 00:50:59,120
Speaker 1: been making plays. Now, you can't give him the MVP

1037
00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:01,120
Speaker 1: because he's been there for three games, but I think

1038
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:04,880
Speaker 1: he has made uh the biggest impact as far as

1039
00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:07,879
Speaker 1: game by game for He's three for three. Um, we've

1040
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:10,280
Speaker 1: waited on jadeveon a little bit, We've waited on Hans.

1041
00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:13,960
Speaker 1: Bobby's been super consistent. UM. I would vote for Quandities

1042
00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:16,960
Speaker 1: because I think he's made the biggest impact. But overall,

1043
00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:19,239
Speaker 1: I think you gotta go with Clowney. I gotta Yeah,

1044
00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:21,560
Speaker 1: I gotta go to with Clowney too. He's just been

1045
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:26,360
Speaker 1: out there. He has three sacks right now, right so

1046
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:28,239
Speaker 1: you know, if you just said, hey, you're gonna be

1047
00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:31,040
Speaker 1: tended too. And in that week, this guy has three sacks.

1048
00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:33,840
Speaker 1: Is he worth it? You'd probably say no, But you

1049
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:36,600
Speaker 1: know he's got the forced fumbles, he's got the two touchdowns,

1050
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:40,640
Speaker 1: he's got the countless holding penalties against him. How disruptive

1051
00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:43,160
Speaker 1: he is in the run game. And you know, I

1052
00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:45,560
Speaker 1: just I love here in this week that he wants

1053
00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:48,000
Speaker 1: to play. He's playing through some pain right now, and

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00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:51,400
Speaker 1: he wants to play for his teammates, so he brings

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00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:54,400
Speaker 1: that element too. So yeah, I gotta I gotta definitely

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00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:57,759
Speaker 1: give it to Jadeveon Clowney. Who else are you thinking about? Well,

1057
00:51:57,760 --> 00:52:01,160
Speaker 1: I think Shack Griffin. I mean he is playing. To me,

1058
00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:03,480
Speaker 1: there's three guys have been the most consistent. It's been

1059
00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:06,320
Speaker 1: shat Griffin, It's been McDougald, and it's been Clowney. And

1060
00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:09,600
Speaker 1: you're right, Clowney, his stats mean nothing. What he does

1061
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:12,719
Speaker 1: in the run game is ridiculous. He's the best run

1062
00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:16,120
Speaker 1: defensive end I've seen in the NFL right now. His

1063
00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:19,080
Speaker 1: motor is off the charts, what he does to free

1064
00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:21,720
Speaker 1: up other guys. I'm gonna give it to Clowney because

1065
00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:26,160
Speaker 1: he's so disruptive. But Shaq Griffin, to me, has been

1066
00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:29,160
Speaker 1: the most consistent player on the defensive. It's funny, I'd

1067
00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:30,920
Speaker 1: take the other corner. If I was going to pick

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00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:33,840
Speaker 1: a corner, I said, I said most consistent. Yeah, I

1069
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:36,960
Speaker 1: like Trey. I love the way he plays. One thing

1070
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:39,279
Speaker 1: he needs to do, though, is trust himself because there's

1071
00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:43,280
Speaker 1: times where he hooks a guy. But yeah, I agree,

1072
00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:45,600
Speaker 1: getting he is and he realizes that and he talks

1073
00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:47,840
Speaker 1: about it. But I love our corners. Right now, you

1074
00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:50,840
Speaker 1: don't like Shack Griffin, Okay, go ahead. He might be

1075
00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:53,239
Speaker 1: the nicest guy on the team, and he's also maybe

1076
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:55,120
Speaker 1: the best you know, as far as he gave himself

1077
00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:57,719
Speaker 1: a D plus as far as his grade last year

1078
00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:01,200
Speaker 1: and the way he's come back and played this season,

1079
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:03,400
Speaker 1: it's it's been fantastic to watch. Well. Coming up next,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna go inside the film room breakdown some of

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Speaker 1: A lot of really cool plays to go through. One

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00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:38,839
Speaker 1: of the guys I mentioned earlier, the twenty eighteen draft,

1089
00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:41,200
Speaker 1: and how fond I am of that draft. I just

1090
00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:45,000
Speaker 1: think it's it's gonna be one of those that rebuilds

1091
00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:47,360
Speaker 1: this team and the time when they really needed it.

1092
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:51,160
Speaker 1: And one of those guys that was drafted that year

1093
00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:53,239
Speaker 1: was a pretty young guy, Rashime Green. I don't even

1094
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:56,120
Speaker 1: think he was twenty one when he got drafted out

1095
00:53:56,200 --> 00:53:59,040
Speaker 1: of USC but he came up big the other night.

1096
00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:02,319
Speaker 1: It was first and ten at the Minnesota twenty two

1097
00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:06,040
Speaker 1: and he delivered. Now motion across the formation is Johnson

1098
00:54:06,120 --> 00:54:08,360
Speaker 1: to turn in hand at Dalvin Cook. He fumbles a

1099
00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:12,480
Speaker 1: foot call, the Seahawks come up with it. McDougall recovers

1100
00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:17,320
Speaker 1: at the twenty seventy yard line. Calvin Cook put it

1101
00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:21,000
Speaker 1: on the ground. Bradley McDougall rolled over and said, look

1102
00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:24,560
Speaker 1: what I found. And the Seahawks in great position, and

1103
00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:27,680
Speaker 1: there are two Vikings down on the field, but the

1104
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:31,920
Speaker 1: Seahawks defense were racing both the field with the football.

1105
00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:36,080
Speaker 1: It was Rasheem Green getting his arm in there and

1106
00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:39,759
Speaker 1: knocking that ball loose and macdouga rolled up on it,

1107
00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:44,080
Speaker 1: Seahawks in position to take a lead. Here a couple

1108
00:54:44,120 --> 00:54:48,000
Speaker 1: of things about this play. Number One, Bradley McDougall comes

1109
00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:50,000
Speaker 1: running up to the pile and it's like I remember

1110
00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:53,439
Speaker 1: this one, Like, there's the football and nobody knows it's

1111
00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:55,920
Speaker 1: there except for the running back and he's getting, you know,

1112
00:54:56,120 --> 00:54:58,239
Speaker 1: pulled into a pile and you're just like, oh, it's

1113
00:54:58,280 --> 00:55:00,719
Speaker 1: like finding a pot of gold. The football is there

1114
00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:03,560
Speaker 1: and so rather McDougall's scooping it up. But the other

1115
00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:06,400
Speaker 1: thing the scene after this, like, not only do they fumble,

1116
00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:11,320
Speaker 1: Dalvin Cooks laying on the field. Yeah, Stefan Diggs is

1117
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:13,120
Speaker 1: laying on the field, and you know that had to

1118
00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:16,160
Speaker 1: have been pretty disheartening for the Vikings. Yeah, what I like,

1119
00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:19,600
Speaker 1: I gotta give credits to Norton here. It seems like

1120
00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:22,600
Speaker 1: he saw a formation, he saw a personnel and it

1121
00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:24,640
Speaker 1: looked like he put his d line on a slant

1122
00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:27,480
Speaker 1: which allowed Green to get in that position right there

1123
00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:30,319
Speaker 1: and make that play. And you're right, you do your job,

1124
00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:32,080
Speaker 1: You get in the right place at the right times.

1125
00:55:32,200 --> 00:55:34,760
Speaker 1: Good things happened, and McDougall did exactly it was supposed

1126
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:36,960
Speaker 1: to do, and that was just a clean How often

1127
00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:39,680
Speaker 1: can you scoop up a football that cleanly? Though the

1128
00:55:39,719 --> 00:55:41,840
Speaker 1: way that thing is shape, it bounces around, it doesn't

1129
00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:44,080
Speaker 1: happen like that, but he picks it up nice and clean.

1130
00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:46,880
Speaker 1: Big ups King Norton, Big ups Green, and big us

1131
00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:48,719
Speaker 1: McDougall for doing what he's supposed to do. Yeah, not

1132
00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:52,239
Speaker 1: much to add, you know. The MacDougall part is, this

1133
00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:56,120
Speaker 1: is where fundamentals coming to play. The way he scraped

1134
00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:58,320
Speaker 1: down the line and kept it so tight, you know,

1135
00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:01,279
Speaker 1: it allowed him to get that fumble. And I'm gonna

1136
00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:04,120
Speaker 1: throw this one out there because I heard people say, well,

1137
00:56:04,239 --> 00:56:07,560
Speaker 1: Cook got hurt, that's why you got That's why you won. Well,

1138
00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:09,919
Speaker 1: first of all, it's in the second half. We kept

1139
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:12,880
Speaker 1: him to three point one yards per carry. His backup

1140
00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:15,319
Speaker 1: actually had a higher yards per carry. But I don't

1141
00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:17,320
Speaker 1: want to hear any of that crudit. You know, we

1142
00:56:17,560 --> 00:56:20,879
Speaker 1: we shut him down. He and he's a fantastic running back,

1143
00:56:21,160 --> 00:56:23,279
Speaker 1: but there was no reason to think he was all

1144
00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:25,000
Speaker 1: of a sudden going to go from three point one

1145
00:56:25,080 --> 00:56:28,359
Speaker 1: yards per carry to six. And that was his last

1146
00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:30,799
Speaker 1: play of the game, and you know it came off

1147
00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:34,760
Speaker 1: a great play, all right. The next play, Russell Wilson

1148
00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:39,040
Speaker 1: finds a wide open David Moore for a sixty yard touchdown.

1149
00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:42,880
Speaker 1: The Seahawks blue a coverage also, And this is what

1150
00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:45,520
Speaker 1: happens in the NFL every once in a while. And uh,

1151
00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:48,280
Speaker 1: you know, I try not to point fingers whenever the Seahawks,

1152
00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:51,640
Speaker 1: you know, blow a coverage. But you know it's the Vikings.

1153
00:56:51,719 --> 00:56:54,080
Speaker 1: And as soon as we hear this clip, we'll point fingers.

1154
00:56:54,640 --> 00:56:59,120
Speaker 1: Penny in the backfield, medcalf far side wide. Russell's got time.

1155
00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:04,560
Speaker 1: He's got David wide open. I could get ten touchdown

1156
00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:12,120
Speaker 1: Seahawks from sixty yards. Russ looked up, saw David Moore

1157
00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:16,000
Speaker 1: running right past Savior Roads and said, here you go.

1158
00:57:16,720 --> 00:57:19,680
Speaker 1: Serves it up on a platter, and the Seahawks are

1159
00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:24,120
Speaker 1: on top twenty six to seventeen and they're doing the

1160
00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:28,800
Speaker 1: hula in the end zone the Seahawks receivers. Wow, what

1161
00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:33,040
Speaker 1: a big play for Seattle. That was not the hula

1162
00:57:33,160 --> 00:57:38,800
Speaker 1: rabel anybody that swings their hips or whatever. Rablue, yeah, hula,

1163
00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:45,280
Speaker 1: it's like Hawaiian. Yeah, but they were doing something from

1164
00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:49,560
Speaker 1: new edition. Yeah, so I wasn't entirely familiar with it.

1165
00:57:49,720 --> 00:57:52,200
Speaker 1: But by the way hula bump, you know, because mostly

1166
00:57:52,320 --> 00:57:54,320
Speaker 1: wide receivers for the Seahawk. I mean it's kind of

1167
00:57:54,360 --> 00:57:56,640
Speaker 1: their you know stick what would you have liked that

1168
00:57:56,760 --> 00:58:00,440
Speaker 1: back in the day. I would participate part of it,

1169
00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:03,720
Speaker 1: I think. I mean, I'm I was kind of low key.

1170
00:58:03,920 --> 00:58:05,920
Speaker 1: I mean they would have to convince me a little bit.

1171
00:58:06,920 --> 00:58:08,560
Speaker 1: You have rhythm like them, because here's the one. I

1172
00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:11,440
Speaker 1: got rhythm. I just look, I mean, not to offend

1173
00:58:11,480 --> 00:58:14,280
Speaker 1: you or anything. Yeah, you have to ask what's let

1174
00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:16,800
Speaker 1: you see it? Look, I just wanted to hear it.

1175
00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:20,200
Speaker 1: I already know he does. He's got charisma. But they

1176
00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:23,680
Speaker 1: practice it, and the three of them, you know, I

1177
00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:26,880
Speaker 1: think it was more it was a locket and uh

1178
00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:34,280
Speaker 1: jb okay, but it build they have it's one of them.

1179
00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:36,800
Speaker 1: They were on stage. I would stop to watch them

1180
00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:38,600
Speaker 1: because I think they're that good. They put in the

1181
00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:40,680
Speaker 1: words pretty cool and people talk about it's kind of

1182
00:58:40,760 --> 00:58:43,560
Speaker 1: corny as far as the the you know, practicing and everything,

1183
00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:47,160
Speaker 1: but yeah, it just builds a little camaraderie between the guys.

1184
00:58:47,240 --> 00:58:49,439
Speaker 1: All right, who blow it on that one? More? Well,

1185
00:58:50,360 --> 00:58:53,880
Speaker 1: it's got to be Rhoads on this one. However, I mean,

1186
00:58:54,280 --> 00:58:56,760
Speaker 1: if you go back and look at this play, Russell

1187
00:58:56,800 --> 00:59:00,400
Speaker 1: Wilson immediately sees a free safety jump hard over the

1188
00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:04,280
Speaker 1: top to the their left Russell's right, and he comes

1189
00:59:04,360 --> 00:59:06,800
Speaker 1: backside and says, I got a one on one situation

1190
00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:09,160
Speaker 1: here with David Moore. But I will say this, he

1191
00:59:09,200 --> 00:59:11,800
Speaker 1: could have picked his poison. Tyler Lockett runs just a

1192
00:59:11,840 --> 00:59:14,560
Speaker 1: little stutter go. He could have hit him for a

1193
00:59:14,640 --> 00:59:16,800
Speaker 1: touchdown too, So he could have hit one of two

1194
00:59:16,880 --> 00:59:21,120
Speaker 1: guys there, David Moore obviously because of the blown coverage.

1195
00:59:21,280 --> 00:59:23,360
Speaker 1: Rhodes thinking, I don't know what he's thinking. He must

1196
00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:25,080
Speaker 1: have thought the safety was coming to his side. Well

1197
00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:27,560
Speaker 1: that's what I don't understand, Like, why would he think

1198
00:59:27,600 --> 00:59:29,920
Speaker 1: the safety's coming to his side? They got two receivers

1199
00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:32,160
Speaker 1: to the right. It's a one high look, so that

1200
00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:35,000
Speaker 1: means it's a deep zon towards a man. Essentially it

1201
00:59:35,080 --> 00:59:37,400
Speaker 1: becomes the man defense on that end. Like so there

1202
00:59:37,440 --> 00:59:39,480
Speaker 1: must have been some kind of miscommunication or something going on.

1203
00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:42,560
Speaker 1: Why I know it's Rhodes, sorry, David. The reason why

1204
00:59:42,560 --> 00:59:45,000
Speaker 1: I know it's Rhodes because the other corner let his

1205
00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:50,560
Speaker 1: receiver get outside and Rhodes was sitting inside, so I'm like, okay,

1206
00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:53,600
Speaker 1: I'm not letting a guy get outside and play that

1207
00:59:53,720 --> 00:59:56,040
Speaker 1: type of technique the other side of the corner. But

1208
00:59:56,360 --> 00:59:59,560
Speaker 1: it again, it doesn't matter, honestly, if he had to

1209
00:59:59,600 --> 01:00:02,520
Speaker 1: play the right Tyler Lockett's gonna have a touchdown, all right.

1210
01:00:02,560 --> 01:00:04,959
Speaker 1: With the game on the line, a Keem King makes

1211
01:00:04,960 --> 01:00:07,880
Speaker 1: a huge play on fourth and three to seal the

1212
01:00:07,960 --> 01:00:12,520
Speaker 1: deal for Seattle. From the shotgun, Rudolph is slotted on

1213
01:00:12,680 --> 01:00:16,280
Speaker 1: the left side. Cousins takes the snap, he's looking that way.

1214
01:00:16,320 --> 01:00:21,120
Speaker 1: He throws falls incomplete, fall in complete, intended for Herb

1215
01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:24,320
Speaker 1: Smith Junior at the forty five yard line at a

1216
01:00:24,480 --> 01:00:29,680
Speaker 1: Keem King, the nickelback who they put on tight ends

1217
01:00:29,800 --> 01:00:33,160
Speaker 1: because of his size and his coverage skills. They all

1218
01:00:33,320 --> 01:00:36,600
Speaker 1: paid off on that fourth down. The ball goes over

1219
01:00:36,680 --> 01:00:40,400
Speaker 1: to the Seahawks with two twenty seven left. Now Minnesota

1220
01:00:40,520 --> 01:00:44,080
Speaker 1: has three timeouts left, and you know Mike Zimmer's gonna

1221
01:00:44,160 --> 01:00:47,920
Speaker 1: use everyone, maybe even before the two minute warning. We

1222
01:00:48,040 --> 01:00:50,000
Speaker 1: talked to a chem King today and he was out

1223
01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:52,520
Speaker 1: there in that nickel package and he said he likes it.

1224
01:00:52,640 --> 01:00:54,680
Speaker 1: You know, he likes to drop into his own play

1225
01:00:54,760 --> 01:00:57,440
Speaker 1: a man do different things. He kind of faked a blitz,

1226
01:00:57,520 --> 01:01:00,280
Speaker 1: and he also mentioned blitzing, but he fakes the blitz

1227
01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:03,000
Speaker 1: and then buzz is basically out to the flat. And

1228
01:01:03,320 --> 01:01:05,360
Speaker 1: he said, you know, we were talking about the window

1229
01:01:05,480 --> 01:01:07,800
Speaker 1: dressing something, which means, you know, before the play starts.

1230
01:01:08,160 --> 01:01:10,440
Speaker 1: Sometimes you you fake a blitz, but you don't ever

1231
01:01:10,520 --> 01:01:12,120
Speaker 1: want to do that that it's going to take away

1232
01:01:12,160 --> 01:01:14,960
Speaker 1: from you your ability to cover. And he did it

1233
01:01:15,080 --> 01:01:17,160
Speaker 1: just right and uh and made a big play that

1234
01:01:17,240 --> 01:01:20,080
Speaker 1: sealed the deal on this game. Yeah. I like what

1235
01:01:20,200 --> 01:01:23,080
Speaker 1: he did his body language before the play. Um, if

1236
01:01:23,120 --> 01:01:24,680
Speaker 1: you look at you look at the bottom of the

1237
01:01:25,200 --> 01:01:27,680
Speaker 1: of the the play with Kim in then up top

1238
01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:29,960
Speaker 1: the other guy in the slot, they're both giving him,

1239
01:01:30,040 --> 01:01:31,920
Speaker 1: giving cousins the same look. So now he's kind of

1240
01:01:31,960 --> 01:01:33,920
Speaker 1: decipher who's coming, who's night, who's coming, who's a night.

1241
01:01:34,120 --> 01:01:37,200
Speaker 1: And what I think a king does best, and Paul,

1242
01:01:37,240 --> 01:01:39,160
Speaker 1: you probably know better than I do, is he gets

1243
01:01:39,280 --> 01:01:43,080
Speaker 1: hands on Rudolph immediately. If you let a receiver free release,

1244
01:01:43,120 --> 01:01:44,840
Speaker 1: you don't press him, you don't make him a jest.

1245
01:01:45,160 --> 01:01:47,280
Speaker 1: Um will manipulate you. But what he does, he kind

1246
01:01:47,320 --> 01:01:49,160
Speaker 1: of manipulates Kyle rude up there, gets his hands on

1247
01:01:49,240 --> 01:01:51,200
Speaker 1: him and then makes a good play on the ball. Well,

1248
01:01:51,320 --> 01:01:53,000
Speaker 1: and if you go look at every other guy in

1249
01:01:53,040 --> 01:01:56,800
Speaker 1: the route, there's nobody open. You guys. Now, the reason

1250
01:01:56,840 --> 01:02:00,400
Speaker 1: why I kind of giggled this, why you taking a

1251
01:02:00,440 --> 01:02:03,680
Speaker 1: blitz if you're a quick there's who's gonna pick that

1252
01:02:03,800 --> 01:02:07,120
Speaker 1: guy up? There's no one there. And that's fine. And

1253
01:02:07,240 --> 01:02:09,080
Speaker 1: actually the way he came back to it, in the

1254
01:02:09,120 --> 01:02:11,640
Speaker 1: way he played it. The strength of that is King's

1255
01:02:11,680 --> 01:02:13,920
Speaker 1: a big guy and he got his hands on him

1256
01:02:13,960 --> 01:02:16,720
Speaker 1: and he took one step and he immediately, you know,

1257
01:02:16,880 --> 01:02:19,400
Speaker 1: drove to the out. So great playing. And that's what

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Speaker 1: we're seeing more and more, Dave, is we're seeing all

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01:02:22,440 --> 01:02:24,360
Speaker 1: the dvs. If you go look at every guy in

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01:02:24,440 --> 01:02:27,280
Speaker 1: the route, every one of those would have had been

1261
01:02:27,360 --> 01:02:31,560
Speaker 1: a perfect contested throw. And so we're forcing quarterbacks to say,

1262
01:02:31,920 --> 01:02:34,760
Speaker 1: you have to be so good to beat us, and

1263
01:02:34,880 --> 01:02:36,600
Speaker 1: in this case, they weren't good enough to beat us.

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01:02:36,960 --> 01:02:38,800
Speaker 1: All right, just three plays there. We probably could have

1265
01:02:38,800 --> 01:02:42,160
Speaker 1: gone through ten different plays in that game. Seahawks coming

1266
01:02:42,240 --> 01:02:44,720
Speaker 1: up with a huge win against the Vikings. Well, coming

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Speaker 1: up next, Paul Gallant from the Morning Show with Danny

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01:02:48,040 --> 01:02:52,080
Speaker 1: and Danny and Gallant. He's gonna play NBA two K

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01:02:52,440 --> 01:02:55,640
Speaker 1: twenty and twenty with George Fanton. They'll have a little

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01:02:55,680 --> 01:02:59,240
Speaker 1: bit of a chat. That's next right here on Hawks Live.

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Speaker 1: It is Hawks Live Gaming. I am Paul Gallant and

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01:03:03,680 --> 01:03:05,600
Speaker 1: with me as a man who played forty two snaps

1273
01:03:05,680 --> 01:03:08,080
Speaker 1: Monday night against the Minnesota Vikings and was just mauling people.

1274
01:03:08,120 --> 01:03:10,520
Speaker 1: It's George fan George, what's up on a doing? I'm

1275
01:03:10,560 --> 01:03:13,120
Speaker 1: doing well. You're ready to probably destroy me in NBAUK.

1276
01:03:13,880 --> 01:03:16,400
Speaker 1: You're oh, oh, okay, give me is this is this

1277
01:03:16,520 --> 01:03:18,400
Speaker 1: trying to lull me into a false sense of security

1278
01:03:18,440 --> 01:03:21,440
Speaker 1: because it's almost working. Please be a good team. The

1279
01:03:21,640 --> 01:03:25,760
Speaker 1: Orlando Magic and you got the Rockets. Get out. We

1280
01:03:25,840 --> 01:03:28,200
Speaker 1: were just talking about this going in. He's just gonna

1281
01:03:28,240 --> 01:03:32,200
Speaker 1: bomb me with threes. Okay, okay. Uh So basketball? Was

1282
01:03:32,240 --> 01:03:36,320
Speaker 1: that that's your first passion? Yes? Yes, that's gonna love it?

1283
01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:38,080
Speaker 1: You know. So I started to watch it him play.

1284
01:03:38,160 --> 01:03:41,560
Speaker 1: So when did you start playing? I started playing basketball?

1285
01:03:42,160 --> 01:03:45,720
Speaker 1: Uh by seventh grade? Seriously, seventh grade something like that.

1286
01:03:46,000 --> 01:03:49,640
Speaker 1: What was your playing style? A right? Seventh grade man?

1287
01:03:49,720 --> 01:03:53,439
Speaker 1: I was like it was hilarious. I was like Chubby paint. God,

1288
01:03:53,520 --> 01:03:56,920
Speaker 1: bro like, couldn't doing being really skill? I was like

1289
01:03:57,040 --> 01:03:59,439
Speaker 1: six foot doesn't like that? Okay, it's kind of toss

1290
01:03:59,480 --> 01:04:01,000
Speaker 1: seven grade, I was a little taller than six foot.

1291
01:04:01,040 --> 01:04:03,640
Speaker 1: Probably when when did you grow? I had my gross

1292
01:04:03,680 --> 01:04:06,280
Speaker 1: word going into my freshman year, like my eighth grade.

1293
01:04:07,040 --> 01:04:09,000
Speaker 1: After ed grade, I went, I was like I went

1294
01:04:09,000 --> 01:04:10,800
Speaker 1: from like six one too, like six four or six

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01:04:10,920 --> 01:04:12,280
Speaker 1: five or something like that. So I was like six

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01:04:12,400 --> 01:04:14,800
Speaker 1: five as a freshman. There you go. Yeah, well I

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01:04:14,880 --> 01:04:16,520
Speaker 1: love how you're talking about it. You know, I was

1298
01:04:16,600 --> 01:04:19,520
Speaker 1: only six feet tall going into I was four foot eleven,

1299
01:04:19,560 --> 01:04:22,600
Speaker 1: six foot five and basketball. I was like, look like yeah,

1300
01:04:22,680 --> 01:04:24,480
Speaker 1: but you I mean you still you got So you

1301
01:04:24,560 --> 01:04:27,080
Speaker 1: got to Western Kentucky and you're you're playing basketball and

1302
01:04:27,120 --> 01:04:29,760
Speaker 1: you're from Kentucky. What a ridiculous state in terms of

1303
01:04:29,840 --> 01:04:32,520
Speaker 1: college basketball in basketball in general. I mean it's just

1304
01:04:32,640 --> 01:04:35,480
Speaker 1: like I tell people all the time, like there's not

1305
01:04:35,600 --> 01:04:38,560
Speaker 1: a lot of states that have one state championship, Like yeah,

1306
01:04:38,680 --> 01:04:41,000
Speaker 1: only one state championship is no, that's it. It's just

1307
01:04:41,120 --> 01:04:45,560
Speaker 1: like Ohl State Sweet sixteen, you played basketball Western Kentucky

1308
01:04:45,880 --> 01:04:47,760
Speaker 1: and now you're in the NFL. Right, how do we

1309
01:04:47,800 --> 01:04:50,560
Speaker 1: get here? I had a friend who played for my

1310
01:04:50,600 --> 01:04:54,040
Speaker 1: college football team, and they were just they were always

1311
01:04:54,080 --> 01:04:56,000
Speaker 1: telling me to try to come play football, and I

1312
01:04:56,120 --> 01:05:00,400
Speaker 1: was always turned down. Had you have you ever played before? U? No.

1313
01:05:00,600 --> 01:05:02,400
Speaker 1: I played like in seventh grade. But it wasn't like

1314
01:05:02,480 --> 01:05:06,320
Speaker 1: anything too crazy. I wasn't really like, I wasn't taking

1315
01:05:06,320 --> 01:05:08,680
Speaker 1: it too series. I feel like okay, and then um,

1316
01:05:10,080 --> 01:05:11,760
Speaker 1: I came out one year. I was a funny story

1317
01:05:11,880 --> 01:05:15,600
Speaker 1: I did one year where I, UH, my senior year,

1318
01:05:15,640 --> 01:05:18,920
Speaker 1: I already signed to go to play college basketball, and uh,

1319
01:05:19,320 --> 01:05:22,000
Speaker 1: I went to one of my coach, the new football

1320
01:05:22,040 --> 01:05:24,720
Speaker 1: coach and my high school was like, hey, I come out, Like,

1321
01:05:24,920 --> 01:05:26,440
Speaker 1: just just come out for one day and if you

1322
01:05:26,440 --> 01:05:28,760
Speaker 1: don't like it, then, you know, just give it up.

1323
01:05:29,160 --> 01:05:31,720
Speaker 1: So I came out there. I didn't tell my parents anything.

1324
01:05:33,040 --> 01:05:34,640
Speaker 1: I don't know who it was my high school coach,

1325
01:05:34,680 --> 01:05:37,760
Speaker 1: that wasn't him, but somebody saw me called my parents.

1326
01:05:38,040 --> 01:05:40,920
Speaker 1: My mom literally drove for a car on the football field.

1327
01:05:41,480 --> 01:05:45,320
Speaker 1: I came and got me the football field, really onto

1328
01:05:45,400 --> 01:05:48,280
Speaker 1: the field, put me off the field. What everyone did

1329
01:05:48,320 --> 01:05:52,040
Speaker 1: you get? Yeah? Last man, Like it's one of the

1330
01:05:52,080 --> 01:05:54,720
Speaker 1: crazy stories people still talk about it. You were a

1331
01:05:54,800 --> 01:05:57,240
Speaker 1: huge part of that Monday night performance. What does it

1332
01:05:57,360 --> 01:05:59,320
Speaker 1: mean when you guys go into the locker room and

1333
01:05:59,360 --> 01:06:02,160
Speaker 1: you run two hundred plus yards on the ground. I

1334
01:06:02,200 --> 01:06:04,400
Speaker 1: mean it's a lot. I mean, especially for it to

1335
01:06:04,520 --> 01:06:07,160
Speaker 1: have two backs like we do that can just uh,

1336
01:06:07,720 --> 01:06:10,520
Speaker 1: you know, do so many different things. Like you got

1337
01:06:11,240 --> 01:06:13,960
Speaker 1: Penny who can just you know, stretcher field and just

1338
01:06:14,160 --> 01:06:17,760
Speaker 1: run uh you know, got some speed to him, just

1339
01:06:17,920 --> 01:06:20,080
Speaker 1: you know, Gloria's shoulder that you got Chris who just

1340
01:06:20,560 --> 01:06:22,320
Speaker 1: you know, he wants to contact, he wants to run

1341
01:06:22,400 --> 01:06:25,640
Speaker 1: through people and embarrass you. So and it makes it

1342
01:06:25,880 --> 01:06:27,560
Speaker 1: it's like a one three punch man. And we got

1343
01:06:27,640 --> 01:06:29,280
Speaker 1: those two guys like that, It makes everything a lot

1344
01:06:29,360 --> 01:06:31,440
Speaker 1: easier for us. Is it weird you're you're one of

1345
01:06:31,480 --> 01:06:34,880
Speaker 1: the veterans now, yeah, that's crazy, right, yeah, he's laughing

1346
01:06:34,920 --> 01:06:37,680
Speaker 1: at jokes about that. So so right right now, like

1347
01:06:37,840 --> 01:06:42,360
Speaker 1: you've experienced a dramatic change in the locker room where

1348
01:06:42,520 --> 01:06:45,160
Speaker 1: like it's gone from all those legion of Boom players

1349
01:06:45,560 --> 01:06:48,520
Speaker 1: to now the identity of the team. What is it?

1350
01:06:48,600 --> 01:06:51,520
Speaker 1: What is it centered around? I don't even I don't

1351
01:06:51,560 --> 01:06:53,440
Speaker 1: even know what to say. I guess I would say, uh,

1352
01:06:53,760 --> 01:06:57,880
Speaker 1: you know, we just our leaders Russ, Bobby and of

1353
01:06:57,960 --> 01:07:01,120
Speaker 1: course nine those guys would know. We don't. It's not

1354
01:07:01,320 --> 01:07:03,160
Speaker 1: kind of how it was. I mean, just being in

1355
01:07:03,240 --> 01:07:06,000
Speaker 1: the locker room with LB and stuff like that. Man,

1356
01:07:06,040 --> 01:07:07,760
Speaker 1: you could just feel it was them, you know, it

1357
01:07:07,880 --> 01:07:10,520
Speaker 1: was it was there. It was there's you know, um.

1358
01:07:12,240 --> 01:07:14,440
Speaker 1: But once they're you know, after they left, then you know,

1359
01:07:14,600 --> 01:07:18,320
Speaker 1: right away Bobby and UH and Russ just kind of

1360
01:07:18,360 --> 01:07:20,720
Speaker 1: took over things in Dwayne and yeah, you know we

1361
01:07:20,800 --> 01:07:22,960
Speaker 1: set a tempo. You know, they set a tempo in

1362
01:07:23,000 --> 01:07:25,160
Speaker 1: the first meeting, just telling people exactly what we're doing.

1363
01:07:25,240 --> 01:07:26,920
Speaker 1: This is everybody know your road, everybody know what we

1364
01:07:27,000 --> 01:07:29,040
Speaker 1: gotta do. And those about I didn't get to work.

1365
01:07:29,160 --> 01:07:31,320
Speaker 1: What's it like being in all these close games? Because

1366
01:07:31,400 --> 01:07:33,920
Speaker 1: they're all close games, you know what, man, nobody's folded.

1367
01:07:33,960 --> 01:07:36,920
Speaker 1: Nobody's folded. Man Like, nobody's like even like when some

1368
01:07:37,040 --> 01:07:39,680
Speaker 1: of those plays where you know, they go down and

1369
01:07:39,760 --> 01:07:42,560
Speaker 1: we might give up a score up on offense or

1370
01:07:42,640 --> 01:07:44,720
Speaker 1: something like that. Don't want panics. That's one thing I

1371
01:07:44,760 --> 01:07:47,440
Speaker 1: can say about this team. And nobody panics. They get

1372
01:07:47,480 --> 01:07:50,920
Speaker 1: back to it, man, and then you know, get back

1373
01:07:50,960 --> 01:07:53,480
Speaker 1: on the field and we try to get the points back. Man,

1374
01:07:53,480 --> 01:07:55,040
Speaker 1: and try to get our stuff back on the back

1375
01:07:55,080 --> 01:07:57,800
Speaker 1: in the game. Is there a reason that nobody panics?

1376
01:07:57,920 --> 01:07:59,959
Speaker 1: Is there? Is there? What? What? What is it? Because

1377
01:08:00,200 --> 01:08:01,840
Speaker 1: I think that's a lot of battle tests of guys

1378
01:08:01,960 --> 01:08:06,840
Speaker 1: man up front, of course. And also you know Russ

1379
01:08:07,040 --> 01:08:10,120
Speaker 1: is huge. Russ and Bobby both Man, Dwayne, they're huge

1380
01:08:10,200 --> 01:08:12,000
Speaker 1: for us. Man, they don't they don't let anybody you don't.

1381
01:08:12,320 --> 01:08:14,120
Speaker 1: We look at your leaders and you know you see

1382
01:08:14,160 --> 01:08:15,720
Speaker 1: no panic or no where in their eyes. And then

1383
01:08:17,040 --> 01:08:20,160
Speaker 1: it's big for the teams, I can imagine. And yeah,

1384
01:08:20,240 --> 01:08:24,200
Speaker 1: you guys have so many players like that and ten

1385
01:08:24,280 --> 01:08:27,400
Speaker 1: and two. Man, it's been a really impressive season thus far.

1386
01:08:28,040 --> 01:08:29,960
Speaker 1: How about how about running the ball? Like, how about

1387
01:08:29,960 --> 01:08:32,479
Speaker 1: you becoming backfield? Yeah, you're the fridge. You don't want

1388
01:08:32,479 --> 01:08:37,080
Speaker 1: to do that? Why not? You're good, You're get some space,

1389
01:08:37,120 --> 01:08:39,760
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Riding maneuver around. Hey, you

1390
01:08:39,800 --> 01:08:42,439
Speaker 1: can write down here, but I don't care. Man, whatever

1391
01:08:42,479 --> 01:08:43,880
Speaker 1: I can do to help us win, that's you know,

1392
01:08:44,680 --> 01:08:46,639
Speaker 1: that's what we need to win. And of course I'll

1393
01:08:46,680 --> 01:08:49,000
Speaker 1: do it for sure. I'm sure. Like you when you're

1394
01:08:49,040 --> 01:08:51,519
Speaker 1: downfield blocking one of these defensive backs, yeah, I mean

1395
01:08:51,640 --> 01:08:53,880
Speaker 1: like they're they're they're bigger than me. But like if

1396
01:08:53,920 --> 01:08:56,040
Speaker 1: I'm in those shoes, I'm I mean, I'm I'm not

1397
01:08:56,120 --> 01:08:58,680
Speaker 1: feeling so I'm not need to change my pants for sure.

1398
01:08:58,840 --> 01:09:01,840
Speaker 1: Not it's fun him at day. It's even funnier like

1399
01:09:01,920 --> 01:09:04,679
Speaker 1: when sometimes they have to split out while like I'm

1400
01:09:04,680 --> 01:09:07,040
Speaker 1: like out why and received the DB's like what are

1401
01:09:07,080 --> 01:09:10,360
Speaker 1: you doing out? What are you doing out here? But

1402
01:09:10,520 --> 01:09:13,559
Speaker 1: it's fun, shoddy and uh Pete, you know they're making fun.

1403
01:09:14,640 --> 01:09:16,439
Speaker 1: They locked me up different places and I get to

1404
01:09:16,479 --> 01:09:19,080
Speaker 1: do different different things, so it's a it's just fun

1405
01:09:19,160 --> 01:09:20,519
Speaker 1: to be you. I was like that man for them

1406
01:09:20,560 --> 01:09:21,800
Speaker 1: to find a way to put me on the field

1407
01:09:21,840 --> 01:09:24,800
Speaker 1: some house away and just a blessing being a situation. Yeah,

1408
01:09:24,880 --> 01:09:27,559
Speaker 1: and and and you're you're on this great team again.

1409
01:09:27,720 --> 01:09:29,960
Speaker 1: And I was curious now that you've been in the

1410
01:09:30,040 --> 01:09:32,760
Speaker 1: locker room for a while, Like I'm imagine it's not

1411
01:09:32,840 --> 01:09:35,439
Speaker 1: exactly like a sitcom where every single person is a character,

1412
01:09:35,600 --> 01:09:37,719
Speaker 1: but I imagine there are certain guys that you identify

1413
01:09:37,800 --> 01:09:40,040
Speaker 1: with certain things. So who would you say is the

1414
01:09:40,200 --> 01:09:44,320
Speaker 1: most serious, like the strong, silent type of the locker room,

1415
01:09:46,080 --> 01:09:49,800
Speaker 1: serious strong type of locker room. And that's tough. It's

1416
01:09:49,840 --> 01:09:51,760
Speaker 1: nobody really liked that, honestly, I don't think really. So

1417
01:09:51,840 --> 01:09:54,120
Speaker 1: every everyone talks a little bit. Everybody talks a little bit.

1418
01:09:54,840 --> 01:09:58,320
Speaker 1: That's Bobby sometimes Bobby, Bobby, Bobby. He turns it on

1419
01:09:58,400 --> 01:10:00,479
Speaker 1: and off. You know, you play around, up around, but

1420
01:10:00,520 --> 01:10:02,080
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, you also know you're serious.

1421
01:10:02,840 --> 01:10:08,200
Speaker 1: You mentioned jokes, which the funniest uh, not even trying,

1422
01:10:08,280 --> 01:10:12,920
Speaker 1: but fluke man, he's a little like comedy here, comedy man.

1423
01:10:13,000 --> 01:10:14,479
Speaker 1: He just just some of the stuff, you know, he

1424
01:10:14,600 --> 01:10:17,000
Speaker 1: just says. And he's just a good dude. He's funny.

1425
01:10:17,240 --> 01:10:21,519
Speaker 1: Who's the toughest person in the locker room? Dbrown fars

1426
01:10:21,520 --> 01:10:24,240
Speaker 1: like nobody wants to mess with you, like just playing through,

1427
01:10:24,360 --> 01:10:27,200
Speaker 1: like just being nick up or not even nicked up man,

1428
01:10:27,320 --> 01:10:29,800
Speaker 1: just being you know, at his age, he's a little older,

1429
01:10:29,920 --> 01:10:31,880
Speaker 1: you know, and and you know he doesn't he doesn't

1430
01:10:31,920 --> 01:10:35,160
Speaker 1: miss a lot, man, he really doesn't. Yeah, and you know,

1431
01:10:35,360 --> 01:10:38,559
Speaker 1: just just watch him take care of himself. And he's

1432
01:10:38,600 --> 01:10:40,360
Speaker 1: a tough dude. Man, he's really good to have in

1433
01:10:40,400 --> 01:10:43,920
Speaker 1: the locker room. Who talks the lost me A lot

1434
01:10:43,920 --> 01:10:46,160
Speaker 1: of guy in the locker room, though, I'm like, and

1435
01:10:46,320 --> 01:10:49,200
Speaker 1: I do it. You know for another reason. Well, that's

1436
01:10:49,240 --> 01:10:51,080
Speaker 1: how I kid myself going. You know, Like I like

1437
01:10:51,120 --> 01:10:53,080
Speaker 1: if I don't talk to people or just talking something

1438
01:10:53,120 --> 01:10:55,679
Speaker 1: like that, like I lose a lot of interest and stuff. Gotcha. Okay,

1439
01:10:56,120 --> 01:11:00,320
Speaker 1: So I'm like constantly talking, like constantly doing something, joking

1440
01:11:00,360 --> 01:11:03,559
Speaker 1: with somebody. I probably am the clowns too good. Okay,

1441
01:11:04,160 --> 01:11:07,040
Speaker 1: I like that constantly doing something. Do you do you

1442
01:11:07,120 --> 01:11:09,479
Speaker 1: talk trash during the game. No, Now, let's might say anthing.

1443
01:11:09,520 --> 01:11:11,920
Speaker 1: You say something new, so you're a retaliator. Okay, that's

1444
01:11:12,000 --> 01:11:13,519
Speaker 1: I think that's always the best way to go. Yeah,

1445
01:11:13,520 --> 01:11:15,880
Speaker 1: if you say something neat and I'll definitely say something back.

1446
01:11:15,960 --> 01:11:18,639
Speaker 1: But no, I'm not. I'm not the trash talking site.

1447
01:11:18,720 --> 01:11:20,720
Speaker 1: Who's who's the best trash talker on the team? The

1448
01:11:20,760 --> 01:11:23,880
Speaker 1: best trash talker? Does anyone talk trash on the team? Yeah?

1449
01:11:23,920 --> 01:11:27,400
Speaker 1: For sure, Bobby talks about trash. Bobby interesting I when

1450
01:11:27,560 --> 01:11:30,240
Speaker 1: we guess that one. Yeah, man, he's uh, but it's

1451
01:11:30,280 --> 01:11:32,320
Speaker 1: good stuff. You know. It's not like he ain't saying

1452
01:11:32,560 --> 01:11:34,479
Speaker 1: crazy about you, but you know, he'll let you know

1453
01:11:34,600 --> 01:11:40,920
Speaker 1: your trash like that's awesome. You're married to an ex

1454
01:11:41,000 --> 01:11:43,519
Speaker 1: college basketball player and you have you have two kids,

1455
01:11:43,640 --> 01:11:45,800
Speaker 1: or do you do you expect one of them to

1456
01:11:45,880 --> 01:11:49,360
Speaker 1: be a professional athlete? So they both profession they're both

1457
01:11:49,400 --> 01:11:53,120
Speaker 1: abouted out? Oh my god, what's what's what's what's sports?

1458
01:11:53,120 --> 01:11:54,360
Speaker 1: Do you think of the people aying, I don't know,

1459
01:11:54,760 --> 01:11:56,960
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm trying to keep him waiting football.

1460
01:11:57,040 --> 01:12:00,120
Speaker 1: But my youngest, my oldest loves football so far all

1461
01:12:00,200 --> 01:12:05,599
Speaker 1: right now, and my youngest like baseball baseball? Yeah, so interesting,

1462
01:12:05,760 --> 01:12:08,600
Speaker 1: Yeah it go listen, baseball, baseball is a sport. I

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Speaker 1: feel like I'm fine with that. I'm fine with what

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Speaker 1: he Hopefully he doesn't get me. I think he would

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Speaker 1: be really tall too. It didn't looking like they're being

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Speaker 1: really really tall, be a big giant pitcher on the mound, yeah,

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Speaker 1: or smashing dingers all over the place. We can get him,

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Speaker 1: but you know, I'm obviously not gonna push it on him.

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Speaker 1: You know, it'll happened away, It should happened. Yeah, you

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Speaker 1: know they'll fall in love with the sport, and um,

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Speaker 1: you know, it doesn't really matter where you started. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: I'm testing too that. You know, I never ball, really

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Speaker 1: I never. I hated football. You hated it. I hated it,

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Speaker 1: And look at you now now you're the Seattle Seahawks smaller,

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Speaker 1: the wrecking dudes downfield and helping them run for all

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Speaker 1: sorts of yards. Yeah, that's it, man. We just we

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Speaker 1: just need to get you the ball. I'm telling you

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Speaker 1: you need you need to get a hand off. George

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Speaker 1: the refrigerator fan to get a touchdown. Caner mash them

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Speaker 1: through guys at the very end of the game. He's

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Speaker 1: George Fan. George, best of luck the rest of the way.

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Speaker 1: Clearly you are good at MBA two Cam. I would

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Speaker 1: love to see you play against Dwayne Brown. He might

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Speaker 1: bend me to happen. I like it. I like it,

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Speaker 1: all right, It's got to happen, Dwayne. Come on, look

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Speaker 1: thoughts tonight. I think I'd probably say this every week, like,

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01:14:21,560 --> 01:14:24,960
Speaker 1: I'm really curious to see what happens, maybe before Minnesota.

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01:14:25,320 --> 01:14:27,000
Speaker 1: You know what kind of team. I guess I'm more

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01:14:27,040 --> 01:14:29,960
Speaker 1: curious to see what the Rams are about. I feel

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01:14:30,000 --> 01:14:32,519
Speaker 1: like I know what the Seahawks are about. The last

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01:14:32,640 --> 01:14:35,640
Speaker 1: three games. Their offensive line and their running game is

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01:14:35,680 --> 01:14:38,400
Speaker 1: stepped up to the challenge that they've played against top

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01:14:38,479 --> 01:14:42,559
Speaker 1: ten run defenses and performed really well, especially last week

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01:14:42,600 --> 01:14:45,559
Speaker 1: with two and eighteen yards on the ground. But we've

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01:14:45,920 --> 01:14:49,080
Speaker 1: become accustomed to over the last three games the defense

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01:14:49,200 --> 01:14:51,960
Speaker 1: playing really well. The thing I can't figure out and

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Speaker 1: going into this game, is which Los Angeles Ram team

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Speaker 1: is going to show up the one that killed the

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Speaker 1: number thirty two defense Arizona or is it going to be,

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01:15:02,800 --> 01:15:05,720
Speaker 1: you know, the team that kind of struggles and got

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Speaker 1: shut down by the Baltimore Ravens. Yeah. I think obviously

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01:15:10,560 --> 01:15:14,240
Speaker 1: you respect every opponent in the NFL. The Rams are

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01:15:14,360 --> 01:15:17,639
Speaker 1: coming off a good game. They beat the Arizona Cardinals,

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01:15:17,680 --> 01:15:20,240
Speaker 1: so their confidence is high. And I think McVeigh has

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01:15:20,280 --> 01:15:22,200
Speaker 1: kind of changed his game playing a little bit. He's

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01:15:22,240 --> 01:15:24,800
Speaker 1: more on the deacon dunk, the short stuff. As long

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01:15:24,880 --> 01:15:27,920
Speaker 1: as the Seattle Seahawks tackle and wrap up, just do

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01:15:28,120 --> 01:15:31,960
Speaker 1: not miss tackles and allow these Spasas to get ten

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01:15:32,120 --> 01:15:35,479
Speaker 1: fifteen yard yaks after they cast the rock, I think

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01:15:35,520 --> 01:15:37,920
Speaker 1: they'll be fine. Now the Rams are six in the

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01:15:38,000 --> 01:15:40,559
Speaker 1: league with about thirty eight thirty nine sacks, so they

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01:15:40,920 --> 01:15:43,040
Speaker 1: have shown they'll get after the quarterback. You're dealing with

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Speaker 1: Aaron Donald, the best player in the NFL depending on

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Speaker 1: who you talk to. M clay Matthews is having a

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01:15:48,240 --> 01:15:51,080
Speaker 1: decent season. He has about I think seven or eight

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01:15:51,120 --> 01:15:55,439
Speaker 1: sacks himselfs So that defense on paper and statistically it's

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01:15:55,560 --> 01:15:57,960
Speaker 1: better than the Hawks. Defense. Are they playing that way?

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01:15:58,080 --> 01:15:59,840
Speaker 1: I don't think so. I think the Hawks defense is

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01:16:00,200 --> 01:16:02,640
Speaker 1: at a high level right now. It's long as the

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01:16:02,680 --> 01:16:05,519
Speaker 1: Hawks are able to run the football tackle, I think

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01:16:05,560 --> 01:16:07,760
Speaker 1: they'll be fine. I think it's gonna be a close game,

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01:16:07,800 --> 01:16:11,639
Speaker 1: like Mostawks games are. Yeah, I look at the Seahawks

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01:16:11,640 --> 01:16:14,040
Speaker 1: are on a playoff run right now. You know they've

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01:16:14,040 --> 01:16:18,560
Speaker 1: played San Francisco, played Philadelphia, and then last week against Minnesota.

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Speaker 1: How did we do against three playoff teams? Well, we

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01:16:22,160 --> 01:16:27,680
Speaker 1: won and I would say two pretty convincingly, Philadelphia and Minnesota.

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Speaker 1: I look at San Francisco they let's look at their

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Speaker 1: playoff run. Well, they've played Arizona twice, probably should have

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Speaker 1: lost twice, lost to US, lost to the Ravens. In between,

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Speaker 1: they beat Green Bay, I believe. And there's some teams

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Speaker 1: from a matchup standpoint that San Francisco is gonna do

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01:16:45,840 --> 01:16:48,280
Speaker 1: exceptionally well against and other teams that can throw that

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01:16:49,040 --> 01:16:51,400
Speaker 1: live off throwing the football at Green Bay, and I

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01:16:51,479 --> 01:16:53,600
Speaker 1: actually think they're gonna whoop up on New Orleans. I

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01:16:54,160 --> 01:16:57,800
Speaker 1: just got a feeling that that matchup favors San Francisco.

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01:16:58,360 --> 01:17:01,080
Speaker 1: Now let's go look at the Rams. The Rams are struggling.

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01:17:01,240 --> 01:17:04,200
Speaker 1: I mean, you know they beat Arizona. Well, guess what

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01:17:04,439 --> 01:17:06,400
Speaker 1: if you got time to throw and you play against

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01:17:06,439 --> 01:17:08,800
Speaker 1: the worst defense in the league, you're gonna have a

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01:17:08,880 --> 01:17:11,280
Speaker 1: lot of success. I'm gonna go with bump Us on

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01:17:11,400 --> 01:17:13,960
Speaker 1: this one. We need to tackle. Well, we can't give

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01:17:14,040 --> 01:17:16,759
Speaker 1: up any long touchdowns. We can give up a twentieth

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01:17:16,920 --> 01:17:19,559
Speaker 1: yard throw here and there. But if you go look

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Speaker 1: at Goth, if Goth doesn't have time, he's gonna dink it.

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01:17:22,760 --> 01:17:25,160
Speaker 1: He's only been sacked nineteen times this year. I mean

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01:17:25,200 --> 01:17:27,200
Speaker 1: it's not or maybe he's twenty two. I mean it's

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01:17:27,280 --> 01:17:30,760
Speaker 1: not very much. It's nineteen. So what does that mean. Well,

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01:17:30,880 --> 01:17:32,760
Speaker 1: he's going to get rid of the ball quick. So

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01:17:33,000 --> 01:17:35,000
Speaker 1: one or two things is gonna happen. He's gonna dink it,

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01:17:35,160 --> 01:17:37,840
Speaker 1: or he's gonna throw an interception if he has time.

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01:17:38,080 --> 01:17:40,280
Speaker 1: They keep eight guys in and we're not, you know,

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01:17:40,840 --> 01:17:42,839
Speaker 1: like we did a couple of year. Agos aren't prepared

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01:17:42,960 --> 01:17:46,680
Speaker 1: for that, which I think we will be, and we

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01:17:46,800 --> 01:17:48,720
Speaker 1: give up those big plays. That's bad and too if

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01:17:48,760 --> 01:17:51,160
Speaker 1: we don't get pressure on them when they do decide

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01:17:51,200 --> 01:17:53,200
Speaker 1: to go and put four or five guys out, that

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01:17:53,320 --> 01:17:56,080
Speaker 1: would be bad. I think we will. Their offensive line

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01:17:56,160 --> 01:17:58,840
Speaker 1: is nowhere near like they were two years ago and

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01:17:59,000 --> 01:18:01,680
Speaker 1: even last year. We are a better football team. But

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01:18:01,760 --> 01:18:04,040
Speaker 1: this team's dangerous. I mean, they have to win. There're

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01:18:04,080 --> 01:18:06,920
Speaker 1: seven and five. They lose are probably out of the

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01:18:07,000 --> 01:18:10,320
Speaker 1: playoff hunt, and we clinch a playoff spot if we win.

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01:18:10,680 --> 01:18:12,439
Speaker 1: I think the best team wins this game, and I

1581
01:18:12,520 --> 01:18:15,439
Speaker 1: think that's a Seahawks. I think communication on defense is

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01:18:15,479 --> 01:18:17,920
Speaker 1: going to be huge too this week, because they're gonna

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01:18:17,960 --> 01:18:20,240
Speaker 1: line up in their tight formation, that tight bunch, that

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01:18:20,360 --> 01:18:23,120
Speaker 1: tight twins that they're gonna motion guys over. That guy

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01:18:23,160 --> 01:18:26,320
Speaker 1: who motions is gonna come right across back across the formation,

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01:18:26,400 --> 01:18:28,880
Speaker 1: So they have to be able to communicate and pass

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01:18:28,960 --> 01:18:31,080
Speaker 1: things off as well. Yeah, and I think it's gotten

1588
01:18:31,120 --> 01:18:34,120
Speaker 1: so much better for the defense with Quandre Diggs back there.

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01:18:34,200 --> 01:18:38,160
Speaker 1: Bradley McDougald has played so much better. And Yeah, it's

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01:18:38,240 --> 01:18:40,960
Speaker 1: it's interesting to see this their offense and how they're

1591
01:18:41,000 --> 01:18:43,439
Speaker 1: going to react because I guess I don't see a

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01:18:43,560 --> 01:18:47,280
Speaker 1: Todd Gurley that's limping around necessarily out there. I just

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01:18:47,400 --> 01:18:50,640
Speaker 1: see a Todd Gurley that doesn't have huge holes to

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01:18:50,800 --> 01:18:53,920
Speaker 1: run through and the way that offense has been operating

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01:18:53,960 --> 01:18:56,439
Speaker 1: over the last couple of years. That's what it's been for. Yeah,

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01:18:56,640 --> 01:18:59,200
Speaker 1: the one concern I have is the matchup on Cup,

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01:18:59,479 --> 01:19:02,920
Speaker 1: and it's probably gonna be King in that situation, So

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01:19:03,200 --> 01:19:05,200
Speaker 1: that will be interesting to see what we do there.

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01:19:05,360 --> 01:19:08,240
Speaker 1: Think we're gonna see more Nickel in this game. I

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Speaker 1: think you have to. I mean they've got woods, they've

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Speaker 1: got cooks, they have a cup. I mean, girl, Yeah,

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01:19:14,400 --> 01:19:16,879
Speaker 1: we got a match up with in that this situation.

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01:19:16,960 --> 01:19:19,840
Speaker 1: And on top of that, you've got Kendricks, who's who's

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01:19:19,920 --> 01:19:22,080
Speaker 1: nursing a hamstring, So that means you got, you know,

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01:19:22,240 --> 01:19:25,320
Speaker 1: Barton out there. I think Barton's a fantastic linebacker, but

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01:19:25,400 --> 01:19:27,240
Speaker 1: I don't think I want to see him against a

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Speaker 1: couple all day long. Yeah, one and then a rookie

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01:19:30,240 --> 01:19:32,519
Speaker 1: Hugo Amadi. We've keep waiting to see him, and I'm

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01:19:32,600 --> 01:19:35,040
Speaker 1: not sure if they trust him enough to get him

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01:19:35,040 --> 01:19:37,560
Speaker 1: out there. Certainly he's a great player, but h but

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01:19:37,680 --> 01:19:40,120
Speaker 1: we'll see. How about the receiver's Michael It's it's interesting

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01:19:40,160 --> 01:19:43,040
Speaker 1: to see like Tyler Lockett, you know, he's just not

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01:19:43,160 --> 01:19:44,960
Speaker 1: been himself. I guess the last couple of weeks he

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01:19:45,040 --> 01:19:47,960
Speaker 1: was targeted three times, had zero catches. I felt like

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Speaker 1: Russell has found a new best buddy in Jacob Hollister.

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01:19:51,840 --> 01:19:54,280
Speaker 1: He is. Yeah, there was a couple of times where

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01:19:54,960 --> 01:19:57,800
Speaker 1: there was one throw to Hollister where I thought, uh,

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01:19:57,920 --> 01:19:59,960
Speaker 1: Tyler Lockett was he was hooked up a little bit

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01:20:00,080 --> 01:20:02,840
Speaker 1: further down field and he had found a spot in

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01:20:02,920 --> 01:20:06,280
Speaker 1: the zone and Russ was focused in on Hollister. But

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01:20:07,040 --> 01:20:09,000
Speaker 1: you think we're gonna see all of a sudden Tyler

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Speaker 1: Lockett get back on track with Russ and have that

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01:20:11,520 --> 01:20:13,880
Speaker 1: connection that they had prior to his injury. I think so,

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01:20:14,120 --> 01:20:16,479
Speaker 1: because there's an injury one week and then there's a

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01:20:16,560 --> 01:20:19,200
Speaker 1: sickness the next week. And I was talking to my buddy,

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Speaker 1: and my football is not like hoop well where you

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Speaker 1: can kind of find you you can play sick Jordan

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Speaker 1: drop fifty on whoever, when he was sick, you find

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Speaker 1: your spot. You're getting football. Every play is so it's

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01:20:28,400 --> 01:20:31,320
Speaker 1: so explosive, like you have to be explosive every single player,

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01:20:31,560 --> 01:20:33,519
Speaker 1: and when you're sick, it's just hard to do that.

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01:20:33,640 --> 01:20:35,720
Speaker 1: And I look at Lockett and he just didn't look

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01:20:35,760 --> 01:20:38,200
Speaker 1: really explosive. It looked like he's doing his job. He's

1634
01:20:38,240 --> 01:20:39,880
Speaker 1: in the right spot. He's where he's supposed to be,

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01:20:40,280 --> 01:20:42,720
Speaker 1: but he just wasn't the same. So I think that

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01:20:43,160 --> 01:20:46,120
Speaker 1: he'll be healthy, he'll be ready to go, and we'll

1637
01:20:46,160 --> 01:20:47,880
Speaker 1: see the good old number sixteen. Yeah, I'd like to

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01:20:47,920 --> 01:20:50,519
Speaker 1: see a different Yak. I don't want him yacking from

1639
01:20:50,520 --> 01:20:55,560
Speaker 1: the flu. After catch. I think he's gonna have a

1640
01:20:55,720 --> 01:20:58,120
Speaker 1: huge game because he hasn't been on film really the

1641
01:20:58,200 --> 01:21:01,200
Speaker 1: last two weeks, and you you game plan on what

1642
01:21:01,320 --> 01:21:03,800
Speaker 1: you see on film, so we'll see what happens here.

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01:21:03,880 --> 01:21:05,400
Speaker 1: He could have a big game. You guys feel good

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Speaker 1: about this game. I hate it because whenever I feel

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01:21:08,280 --> 01:21:10,920
Speaker 1: good about it, like the last two weeks, Ah, we won, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: all right, then we'll still I'm always always gonna be

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Speaker 1: nervous with this team. They seem to always play it tight.

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