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Speaker 1: We have Iowa Caucus talk.

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Speaker 2: Megan Kelly, Sean Spicer, James Lindsay's gonna join us and

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Speaker 2: talk about communism.

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Speaker 1: My goodness, there's so much to do. I don't know

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Speaker 1: how we're gonna do it all.

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Speaker 3: And I'm right.

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Speaker 1: Last night was the Iowa caucus.

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Speaker 2: Maybe you weard it was the first GOP primary state.

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Speaker 2: And I'm gonna go to Megan Kelly here in a minute,

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Speaker 2: and we're gonna go to Sean Spicer. We're gonna have

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Speaker 2: all kinds of Iowa Caucus talk tonight. I just want

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Speaker 2: to I just want to say this. Remember there's only

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Speaker 2: one winner. I've lost two congressional races. I won two

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Speaker 2: primaries and then lost both general elections, And so I

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Speaker 2: know the elation of victory, Knight, and I know the

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Speaker 2: agony of defeat.

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Speaker 1: I salute the winners.

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Speaker 2: I sympathize with the losers, even the ones I don't wipe,

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Speaker 2: the ones who it didn't work out for. But Donald

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Speaker 2: Trump blew everyone out and they were going all in

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Speaker 2: in Iowa. I know it hurts. Donald Trump's going to

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Speaker 2: be the Republican nominee. I shouldn't say I know it hurts.

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Speaker 1: It hurts. For about half of you. He got half

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Speaker 1: the vote.

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Speaker 2: Half the people love Trump, half the people want something else.

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Speaker 2: Trump fans are thrilled today, Trump Peters or in agony today.

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Speaker 2: And there's no way I can make any of that

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Speaker 2: any better for anybody. There's only one winner. There's only

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Speaker 2: one winner. I salute the people who got involved. And

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Speaker 2: let's be honest. It's over now.

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Speaker 1: It is Trump's going to be the nominee. We marched forward.

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Speaker 1: You do with that what you will. I wonder what

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Speaker 1: Megan Kelly has to say about that. I wonder if.

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Speaker 2: Megan Kelly is going to even agree with me that

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Speaker 2: it's over. I suppose she will, but let's find out.

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Speaker 2: But first let's hear what the candidates had to say.

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Speaker 2: Nikki Haley's part in this little stippet absolutely murdered me.

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Speaker 2: This is the first because the big night is going

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Speaker 2: to be in nova when we take back our country.

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Speaker 4: The media was against us. They were writing our obituary

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Speaker 4: months ago. They even called the election before people even

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Speaker 4: got a chance to vote.

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Speaker 5: I can safely say tonight Ala made this Republican primary

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Speaker 5: a two person race.

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Speaker 1: And earlier tonight I called Donald Trump to.

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Speaker 6: Tell him that I congratulated him on his victory and

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Speaker 6: now going forward he will have my full endorsement for

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Speaker 6: the presidency, and I think we're going to do the

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Speaker 6: right thing for this country.

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Speaker 2: Pretty telling responses, but you never know. It is the

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Speaker 2: night there was one loser, well, one winner, I'm sorry,

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Speaker 2: and a whole bunch of losers. Somebody who's very much

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Speaker 2: not a loser, who knows a lot more about this

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Speaker 2: stuff than I do. Megan Kelly is joining me now

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Speaker 2: the great journalist host of The Megan Kelly Show, which

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Speaker 2: I love. You can watch it listen to it serious

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Speaker 2: XEM Triumph Channel one eleven. It's also on YouTube YouTube

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Speaker 2: dot com slash Megan Kelly, Okay, Meghan Vvek drops out

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Speaker 2: Nikki Haley somehow calls it a two person race after

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Speaker 2: finishing third. Desantus is man at the media, and Trump's

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Speaker 2: talking about November.

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Speaker 1: What's the Megan Kelly take.

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Speaker 7: All of that is irrelevant other than Trump.

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Speaker 3: It's over.

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Speaker 7: I'm sorry, with all due respect. Yes, there's like the

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Speaker 7: you know, slim little chance somebody could pull a rabbit

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Speaker 7: out of a hat, but realistically it's done. Trump crushed

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Speaker 7: in Iowa. Trump is going to probably win New Hampshire.

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Speaker 7: It's feasible that he could lose to Nicki Haley, where

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Speaker 7: she is devoted all of her time and resources. But

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Speaker 7: he's already crushing her in South Carolina, her home state,

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Speaker 7: which comes right after that. And he's already not only

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Speaker 7: crushing in the ballots that come on Super Tuesday in March,

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Speaker 7: but he's actually kind of rigged it legally a lot

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Speaker 7: of those elections such that it's going to be almost

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Speaker 7: impossible for somebody else to win just with the party rules.

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Speaker 7: So Trump's in a great position going into March. These

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Speaker 7: If somebody else wins, it's not going to stop Trump.

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Speaker 7: I really kind of think I agree with those Republicans

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Speaker 7: who are online right now saying, can we just focus

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Speaker 7: the money and the resources behind Trump right now? Because

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Speaker 7: we're going to need every dollar we have because half

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Speaker 7: our money's going to go to his legal defense fund,

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Speaker 7: and Joe Biden is the best funded candidate in generations.

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Speaker 7: So I'm not sure exactly why the Republican Party needs

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Speaker 7: to keep playing this out, but I guess it's just

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Speaker 7: that's the way the election ball rolls.

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Speaker 1: Megan I had a talk last night.

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Speaker 2: I have a bunch of Trump friends, a bunch of

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Speaker 2: DeSantis friends, and I don't have any Nicky Haley friends anyway,

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Speaker 2: but I have a bunch of friends in both camps.

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Speaker 2: So one of my DeSantis loving friends was despondent last night.

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Speaker 2: We were texting back and forth and he was crushed

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Speaker 2: about this whole thing. Jesse, what do we do wrong?

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Speaker 2: Do you think we did anything wrong? And I'll tell you, Megan,

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Speaker 2: I'll put this out there, and I know you'll argue

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Speaker 2: with me if I'm wrong, because you don't care about that.

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Speaker 1: And I love that.

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Speaker 2: This is this something DeSantis could ever won anyway. I

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Speaker 2: told him, listen, you can't fight the ocean. You can't

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Speaker 2: fight the times. Donald Trump's already the former president, already popular,

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Speaker 2: He's being indicted. The indictments essentially cinched it for him.

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Speaker 2: If you had run the best campaign in history, and

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Speaker 2: maybe you did, it wouldn't have mattered because you can't

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Speaker 2: fight the ocean.

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Speaker 1: Was I wrong?

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Speaker 3: No, You're not wrong.

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Speaker 7: This is like let's say they're, you know, having a

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Speaker 7: contest to see who is going to get this ten

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Speaker 7: million dollar house for free. We need, you know, a

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Speaker 7: saucy blonde woman, and I'm like, I'm saucy and I'm blonde,

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Speaker 7: and I would love a ten million dollar house. I'm

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Speaker 7: gonna go out there. I'm gonna put on my bathing suit.

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Speaker 7: When you get my hair did, I'm gonna do my hair,

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Speaker 7: my makeup, try to look my best, and I saunter

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Speaker 7: ten million dollar house. I'm having great sheep right now,

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Speaker 7: Boom out comes El McPherson with blonde highlights.

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Speaker 1: I'm e ft. It doesn't work that way. Life's not fair.

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Speaker 1: It's just Trump is el McPherson.

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Speaker 7: Ron DeSantis is extremely talent and extremely smart and would

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Speaker 7: be an excellent leader, but he is not a walking

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Speaker 7: ball of charisma, and Trump is, for all of his faults,

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Speaker 7: he is. And so while the true Ron DeSantis would

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Speaker 7: have been enough, would have been more than enough in

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Speaker 7: any previous election cycle, to go up against Trump, you're

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Speaker 7: gonna need something close to another walking ball of charisma.

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Speaker 7: Not to mention the celebrity factor, which Trump had before

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Speaker 7: he became president and has exponentially since becoming president. It

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Speaker 7: just was an impossibly difficult task. It wasn't particularly well

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Speaker 7: executed in DeSantis's case, but even had he executed it perfectly, I.

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Speaker 3: Think we'd be looking at the same result right.

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Speaker 2: Now, Megan, let's talk Nicki Hayley for a second. I

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Speaker 2: have a few sources. You're an actual journalist, so you

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Speaker 2: have a whole bunch more than I do. And I

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Speaker 2: am hearing things that I don't love. You See, I'm

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Speaker 2: going to vote for the GOP nominee, unless, of course,

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Speaker 2: Nicky Haley is anywhere on that ticket. And I keep

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Speaker 2: hearing things about Nicky Haley being on a Trump ticket.

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Speaker 2: Explain that have you heard this? And why in the

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Speaker 2: world would he do it?

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Speaker 7: Well, I understand why he'd do it, so I'll take

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Speaker 7: that next. But here's what I heard, so Jason Miller,

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Speaker 7: who works for Trump, and trying to pull up the

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Speaker 7: text so I can just read it to you. Jason

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Speaker 7: Miller apparently gave an interview to the New York Post.

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Speaker 7: He works very closely with Trump. He was the guy

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Speaker 7: we dealt with when I interviewed Trump. He's this sort

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Speaker 7: of lead man on this stuff. And they were asked

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Speaker 7: about who might be Trump's vice presidential pick. And the

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Speaker 7: quote is pretty safe to say it won't be Forvke.

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Speaker 7: Okay Miller, reading from the Post, asked about the possibility

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Speaker 7: of another GOP presidential contender. Nicki Haley said he would

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Speaker 7: let Trump speak about his decision, so he wasn't as

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Speaker 7: explicit in shooting down that possibility as he was about

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Speaker 7: the Vake. I'll make two arguments. People like Tucker I've said,

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Speaker 7: not only would he not support that ticket, but he

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Speaker 7: would actively campaign against it. Trump's got to be considering

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Speaker 7: that because he does. He follows Tucker, He's given him

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Speaker 7: many interviews. He won't like that pushback. But Trump also

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Speaker 7: wants to win and needs to win this election. A

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Speaker 7: Republican must win the election, and it looks like Trump's

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Speaker 7: going to be the nominee.

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Speaker 3: So Trump must win.

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Speaker 7: This election, and so the vice presidential choice just got

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Speaker 7: a lot more important. And if Nicky Haley can help

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Speaker 7: him win, he might actually choose her because he's banking

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Speaker 7: on people like you and Tucker eventually coming into the

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Speaker 7: vote for Joe Biden, and you're probably not going to

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Speaker 7: stay home when you realize Trump could go to prison

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Speaker 7: if you do, and we're going to get another four

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Speaker 3: Make it five years. He could be banking on that.

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Speaker 7: If he doesn't win Jesse, he's going to He can't

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Speaker 7: pull back the DOJ off of that January sixth prosecution,

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Speaker 7: state prosecution in New York.

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Speaker 3: He's not going to jail for that one.

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Speaker 7: The one down in George is bad, but is having

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Speaker 7: he's in good stead, and that means he needs to win.

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Speaker 3: So you could see the argument.

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Speaker 7: That if she puts him in the best position and

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Speaker 2: Okay, Megan, so whip me here. Does she help him?

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Speaker 2: I know she doesn't help him with me. It disgusts

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Speaker 2: I value in life. But I'm one person. I'm not important.

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Speaker 2: Does she help him win?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, I see, I hear everything you just said, bully.

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Speaker 7: She does. I mean, just yesterday, she can say whether

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Speaker 7: lot of us on our favorite issues. You know, whether

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Speaker 7: a woman and whether you can stay and will and

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Speaker 7: must stay one. However, the moderates like her. They like

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Speaker 7: the GOP's big achilles heel. For the past couple of years,

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Speaker 7: since Roe was overturned, it has been abortion, and she's

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Speaker 7: saying closer to the right things on that issue for moderates,

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Speaker 7: for liberals, for centrist people who are upset with the Democrats,

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Speaker 7: who have had it with wokeism. Joe Biden stands on

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Speaker 7: Israel whatever. They're playing foot seat with the right now

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Speaker 7: and considering coming over. I know a lot of his

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Speaker 3: Stand the left.

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Speaker 2: Let's understand something. It is cost cutting time for all us, you, me, everybody.

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Speaker 3: I'm relieved. I think it might be.

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Speaker 8: I'm relieved with Sean Spicer because I didn't when I

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Speaker 2: Sean, Okay, can you explain from a thirty thousand foot

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Speaker 8: A guy that's saying I want to be that guy

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Speaker 2: Now, anybody looking at this race subjectively knows that this

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Speaker 3: Something's going to happen to Trump.

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Speaker 8: Now, if you look at the legal cases, nothing is

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Speaker 8: I think it's not just donors, but for some of

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Speaker 8: these people, it's a passion project. Either they really hate

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Speaker 8: Trump or they really believe in DeSantis or Haley. And also,

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Speaker 8: you know, the one thing that I have found is

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Speaker 8: to your point about being a capitalist, like I am

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Speaker 8: a New England frugigal guy, like you know, if I

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Speaker 8: can find something that's going to give me a coupon

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Speaker 8: and I can save five bucks and go do it.

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Speaker 8: But when you're a billionaire and saying, hey, i'll keep

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Speaker 8: I'll throw a couple extra million at this campaign that

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Speaker 8: I really like.

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Speaker 3: You know, that's sort of like the tip when I

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Speaker 3: go out to dinner.

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Speaker 8: It's they don't really look at that as some huge

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Speaker 8: amount of money. The people that are funding these people

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Speaker 8: have serious cash.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I'm glad you brought that up. I swear my life.

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Speaker 2: I didn't plan this, Sean, but I nerd out.

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Speaker 1: On the details because details matter, and I'm very, very, very.

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Speaker 2: Concerned about the GOP's cash situation going into this election.

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Speaker 2: Donald Trump has to use half of his cash whatever

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Speaker 2: that number is, for his legal fees. Joe Biden, because

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Speaker 2: he's a communist and backed by communists, will have unending

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Speaker 2: amounts of money. If we're going to be outspent two

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Speaker 2: to one, Sean, how do we win?

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Speaker 1: Well?

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Speaker 8: First of all, I would I would suggest to you that,

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Speaker 8: I mean, if you go back historically and look the

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Speaker 8: last cycle. Trump raised one hundred and fifty four million

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Speaker 8: in the first quarter. As soon as we settle on

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Speaker 8: a nominee, money is not going to be a problem.

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Speaker 3: Everybody.

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Speaker 8: Money, Look you look at Iowa, Tell me what Ron

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Speaker 8: DeSantis did with what eighty million dollars. I think the

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Speaker 8: difference is that you're talking about a finite number of states,

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Speaker 8: eight states. With this race is going to be run

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Speaker 8: in We're not going to have a problem with money.

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Speaker 3: It's just a fact.

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Speaker 8: You're going to have super packs, outside groups blah blah

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Speaker 8: blah blah blah all the way down. Money is not

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Speaker 8: going to be an issue in this campaign. Trust me

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Speaker 8: when I say that Trump's got a super pack. They've

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Speaker 8: got a lot of people around him. The RNC will

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Speaker 8: do very well once we coalesce around candidate and they

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Speaker 8: can form what they call it joint fundraising agreement. Right now,

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Speaker 8: a lot of the donors, small donors and large donors

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Speaker 8: as well are holding back giving to the party because they.

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Speaker 3: Want to see who the nominee is.

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Speaker 8: Once that nominee is able to form that joint fundraising committee, historically,

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Speaker 8: it raises plenty of money. I get your point, it's

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Speaker 8: well taken. There's a lot of money that's going to

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Speaker 8: lawyers that should be used on the ground and for

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Speaker 8: other you know, digital and data efforts. But it is

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Speaker 8: what it is. And the nice thing as I said,

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Speaker 8: is that these are not unknown people, right, Dollard Trump

490
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Speaker 8: is well known, Joe Biden is well known.

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Speaker 3: There's only so much you can do at this point.

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Speaker 8: And as I said, I mean, you go back and

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Speaker 8: look at Hillary Clinton on the DEM side, you look

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Speaker 8: at Jeb Bush and now run DeSantis. Money can only

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Speaker 8: take you so far. Trump wasn't the big spender in

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Speaker 8: Iowa by any means, and I think so. Look, money helps,

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Speaker 8: especially early on for first time candidates. Trump has an

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Speaker 8: infrastructure together, he's got the data list. There's a lot

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Speaker 8: of things that he has that by having run twice before,

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Speaker 8: they're sort of an economy scale there. I think your

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Speaker 8: point is well taken, and it is ridiculous that he's

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Speaker 8: having to bleed so much money on legal fees.

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Speaker 3: But I don't think we're going to suffer from a

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Speaker 3: lack of money.

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Speaker 2: All right, Well, let's cross our fingers on that one. Sean,

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Speaker 2: you are the best, my man. I appreciate you very much.

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Speaker 2: Let's talk to James Lindsay and some World Economic Forum

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Speaker 2: talk next. Before we talk to James, you know all

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Speaker 2: we're going to talk about World Economic Forum. You understand.

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Speaker 2: It's just it's so horrible. It's unbelievable that we live

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Speaker 2: in a world where this is real. This should be

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Speaker 2: some online conspiracy theory. As we speak, the men who

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Speaker 2: run the world, they're meeting at the World Economic Forum

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Speaker 2: to discuss how to destroy your money. They are digital currency.

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Speaker 2: They love talking about that, so they can track your

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Speaker 2: every move, every bit of spending.

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Speaker 1: You.

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Speaker 2: Sorry, that gun purchase has been denied.

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Speaker 1: So what are normal people do? How do you fight

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Speaker 1: back against that?

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Speaker 2: Billionaires and presidents and prime ministers. You get gold man

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Speaker 2: gold or silver, I don't care what color it is.

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Speaker 2: Get it delivered to your home. You don't have to

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Speaker 2: go crazy. This is for normal people. Oxford Gold Group

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Speaker 2: will send gold or silver to your front door, anonymous, insured.

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Speaker 1: You don't need a bank vault. They're not gold bars.

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Speaker 2: It's little coins that you can use if you need

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Speaker 2: to one day. They'll also get it in your four

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Speaker 2: oh one K in your IRA. But they can't do

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Speaker 2: any of this if you don't call the number. Don't

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Speaker 2: wait until the value of your dollar completely disappears. You've

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Speaker 2: already seen it go down twenty percent. You're gonna wait

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Speaker 2: till that number gets to fifty before you call Oxford

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Speaker 2: Gold Group. Then you can buy even that's gold eight

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Speaker 2: three three nine Gold. Tell them I told you to call,

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Speaker 2: take care of you. I promise eight three three goal.

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Speaker 1: We'll be back.

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Speaker 9: Trust is a fundamental pillar of our social, economic, and

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Speaker 9: political lives. It is vital for cooperation, social cohesion, and

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Speaker 9: effective free functioning institutions. To rebuild trust, there's a fundamental

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Speaker 9: need to embody trusteeship, which means to care for the

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Speaker 9: greater good. Let's use this annual meeting to rebuild trust

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Speaker 9: by exercising our trusteeship individually and collectively for safeguarding the

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Speaker 9: future of humanity and nature.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's like great news.

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Speaker 2: Klaus Schwab and the World Economic Forum they want.

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Speaker 1: To rebuild trust. That's awesome.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure James is excited about it too. Joining me now,

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Speaker 2: my friend, the wonderful anti communist James Lindsay, author of

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Speaker 2: the book The Marxification of Education Race Marxism. You should

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Speaker 2: read everything, James Lindsay writes to be Frank James.

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Speaker 1: I'm excited.

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Speaker 2: I've previously been against these people, and now.

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Speaker 1: I find out they want to earn my trust back.

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Speaker 1: That's good, isn't it. Yeah?

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Speaker 10: Actually, I am truly and genuinely excited about this because

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Speaker 10: it means that they are starting to recognize that we

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Speaker 10: don't trust them. They have lost our trust, and they

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Speaker 10: can try all of their stunts to rebuild it. But

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Speaker 10: trust is one of those funny things that once you

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Speaker 10: it takes a lot of work to gain in. Once

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Speaker 10: you lose it, you don't just get it back. So

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Speaker 10: these people saying, Klaus standing there, saying that they're going

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Speaker 10: to regain our trust collectively for the good of humanity

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Speaker 10: and nature does nothing but turn us off him even

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Speaker 10: more so. I'm actually pretty excited that they are getting

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Speaker 10: the message that people are pissed off at them.

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Speaker 2: Okay, James, I've used this horribly lame example, but I'm uneducated,

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Speaker 2: as you know. But it's something I've talked about many

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Speaker 2: times before. Thinking about the people and the elites is

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Speaker 2: one big ball of Plato, and the elites are kind

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Speaker 2: of pulling away from it a little bit. They don't

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Speaker 2: want to pull away, but they are. Every time they

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Speaker 2: try to come down on us, they pull away and

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Speaker 2: pull away and pull away, and they're losing our trust

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Speaker 2: and now they clearly see they want it back. What

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Speaker 2: concerns me, James is these people in the little ball

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Speaker 2: are not exactly wonderful people who will be honest with

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Speaker 2: us now to earn that trust back, what's the plan

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Speaker 2: for the little ball to bring the big ball back

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Speaker 2: into the fold, Because I promise it's not telling us

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Speaker 2: the truth or letting us be free.

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Speaker 11: Well, it's going to be a lot of lying.

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Speaker 10: And this is actually it is an important and positive

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Speaker 10: turn that they're at this position, but it's also a

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Speaker 10: dangerous turn be immense amounts of lying. It's going to

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Speaker 10: be mask back on for the most part. I hope

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Speaker 10: we're going to have some nice revealing video. But the

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Speaker 10: last couple of years they've just been kind of landed

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Speaker 10: all out there and scaring the crap out of everybody.

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Speaker 10: And so they're going to tuck back into the little

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Speaker 10: turtle shell and say, no, no, we're just here for

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Speaker 10: good things. We've made some mistakes, we're going to try

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Speaker 10: to do better. That's how they're going to try to

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Speaker 10: get back in the trust. You know, we've came on

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Speaker 10: too hard with ESG. We have to use a different approach.

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Speaker 10: Of course, they know in their back pocket they have

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Speaker 10: the ace of natural asset companies which could replace ESG. Completely,

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Speaker 10: so they don't abandon the agenda. They just changed the

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Speaker 10: program and try to say that they're doing better when

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Speaker 10: in fact they're doing worse. But the reason this is

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Speaker 10: truly dangerous is because communism always works by deception, including

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Speaker 10: deceiving people into trusting them, well, specifically deceiving people into

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Speaker 10: trusting them until the moment it can no longer do that,

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Speaker 10: at which point they start to use force and crisis

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Speaker 10: and calamity and destruction to create crises and urgencies that

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Speaker 10: have to be responded to immediately and with their policies

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Speaker 10: and their agendas.

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Speaker 2: Okay, we'll get back to the natural asset companies here

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Speaker 2: in a moment, but that's just too good of a

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Speaker 2: segue into disease X.

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Speaker 1: They're at the World.

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Speaker 2: Economic Forum right now talking about disease X twenty times

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Speaker 2: more deadly than COVID. James, I just heard you say

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Speaker 2: they want a crisis. They're at the World Economic Forum

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Speaker 2: talking about disease X. I don't want to be a

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Speaker 2: deranged online conspiracy theorist. Please tell me these people wouldn't

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Speaker 2: do something as terrible as that.

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Speaker 10: Well, I would love to tell you that, Jesse. But

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Speaker 10: the question is why wouldn't they It worked so well

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Speaker 10: four years ago. Disease election season is what it should

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Speaker 10: really be called, and it works so so well four

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Speaker 10: years ago. It allowed them to set up all their

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Speaker 10: drop boxes and things. Of course, they're not really calculating

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Speaker 10: what's going on on the ground because conservatives are setting

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Speaker 10: up drop boxes and churches and gun stores completely legally,

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Speaker 10: and might just beat them at their own game this time.

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Speaker 10: But it was so successful to control the population, and

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Speaker 10: the big weakness a lot of people said was, well,

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Speaker 10: if COVID nineteen was deadly or we might have fallen

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Speaker 10: for it. So I don't see what real impediment they

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Speaker 10: have to stopping doing this. Accept the impediment that even

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Speaker 10: if a natural disease ex were to break out, we're

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Speaker 10: all going to blame them for it, and it's not

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Speaker 10: going to be a happy time for them because they're

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Speaker 10: not going to regain our trust.

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Speaker 11: And I hope they get the message.

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Speaker 2: James, you've been talking a lot about natural asset companies.

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Speaker 1: In fact, you just brought it up again here.

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Speaker 2: And this is a concept that goes way beyond most

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Speaker 2: people's heads. When I say most people, I'm talking about me.

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Speaker 1: What are these things what do they want.

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Speaker 10: Well, they're actually companies that can be set up to

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Speaker 10: be traded publicly traded.

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Speaker 11: On the New York Stock Exchange.

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Speaker 10: They were developed and funded in their creation by the Rockefellers,

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Speaker 10: of course, so you know that they're a great idea.

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Speaker 10: But basically it's the idea that you can create a

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Speaker 10: new kind of company called a natural asset company. And

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Speaker 10: the natural asset company is there to manage natural assets,

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Speaker 10: and so they are by law unable to make money.

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Speaker 11: They're not allowed to.

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Speaker 10: Do any unsustainable activity, but they use a new voodoo

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Speaker 10: kind of economics called ecological accounting to where they will determine.

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Speaker 10: For example, if you go fishing and you pull a

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Speaker 10: big fish out of the lake, you don't have to.

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Speaker 1: Pay the lake for the fish.

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Speaker 10: But if that lake is under the management of a

659
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Speaker 10: natural asset company, they'll use this ecological accounting to decide

660
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Speaker 10: how much the fish was worth to the lake to

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Speaker 10: stay alive, and so then you would be able to

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Speaker 10: extract value out of that. Think of it as the

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Speaker 10: carbon credit scheme put on steroids to the tune of

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Speaker 10: maybe one hundred and fifty trillion dollars a year worth

665
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Speaker 10: of fabricated value, to take productive land and make it unproductive,

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Speaker 10: productive waters and make it unproductive, and to put it

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Speaker 10: under the management and control of whoever happens to own

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Speaker 10: these natural assist companies with no penalty whatsoever if they

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Speaker 10: decide to use it as a big squeeze in a

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Speaker 10: land grab, and then to violate their policies of no

671
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Speaker 10: mining or energy extraction or whatever later except to be

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Speaker 10: delisted as a back to a normal kind of company.

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Speaker 10: So you can see that as a big scam to

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Speaker 10: control people, control resources, and eventually to acquire all of

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Speaker 10: those resources by making things like farming, mining, and so

676
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Speaker 10: on too expensive for anybody to actually participate in.

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Speaker 2: James, stepping away from all the specifics here, I want

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Speaker 2: to just ask you a couple of things because I

679
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Speaker 2: have a concern. I think it's a concern you probably share.

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Speaker 2: But we as the American people, and I could use

681
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Speaker 2: all the people so to the west, But we as

682
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Speaker 2: an American people in my view, and you can disagree.

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Speaker 2: I don't view us as being a people ready for freedom.

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Speaker 2: I wish we were. I do not think we're.

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Speaker 1: Ready for it. I wish we were.

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Speaker 2: And I don't want to dictator, James, I don't want

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Speaker 2: a dictator on the left. I don't want a dictator

688
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Speaker 2: on the right. I, however, don't think we're made for freedom.

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Speaker 1: So where do we end up here?

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Speaker 2: There's going to be a pushback on the right and

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Speaker 2: it's not going to be a hardcore freedom movement. As

692
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Speaker 2: much as I would I would like that, I think

693
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Speaker 2: that we're going to be left with crap and crappier

694
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Speaker 2: and I hate that. Am I wrong about the people?

695
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Speaker 2: Are they ready for freedom?

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Speaker 10: They are in my assessment traveling around these fifty states

697
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Speaker 10: an awful lot and talking to people all over this country.

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Speaker 10: They are preparing for freedom. They are not currently ready.

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Speaker 10: But it's not freedom that they're not ready for. Jesse

700
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Speaker 10: what they're not ready for his responsibility. And it is

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Speaker 10: going to be a matter of remembering that we're individuals

702
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Speaker 10: who do best. That the so called invisible hand of

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Speaker 10: the market is the magic if you want.

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Speaker 11: It's not magic. It's called emergence that.

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Speaker 10: Occurs once you have lots of people close to the

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Speaker 10: problems that they're solving taking responsibility for those problems. When

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Speaker 10: I see this pendulum swing, the big angry right coming

708
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Speaker 10: back and is going to take over, and you said,

709
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Speaker 10: it's not just going to be crap, but crappier the

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Speaker 10: fashion to return to fight off the communist provocation. What

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Speaker 10: I see is more people who don't want to take responsibility.

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Speaker 10: They want the government to solve their problems for them.

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Speaker 10: But as long as it's their government, it's great. And

714
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Speaker 10: we need to get back as a people to people

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Speaker 10: who say, hey, you know what, somebody needs to do that,

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Speaker 10: and I'm somebody. In other words, I'm ready to take

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Speaker 10: personal responsibility. That means people are going to want to

718
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Speaker 10: go back to ownership. They're going to want to take

719
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Speaker 10: responsibility for their lives and the direction of their lives.

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Speaker 10: And it's time for us to start calling from the

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Speaker 10: rooftops that it's time for us to start taking responsibility

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Speaker 10: and stop looking for big government saviors.

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Speaker 2: How do we get to people ready for that, because

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Speaker 2: we're not, but you're absolutely not. How do we make

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Speaker 2: sure they're ready for that?

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Speaker 11: Well, it's a matter.

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Speaker 10: Actually, there are a lot of matters on a kind

728
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Speaker 10: of I don't want to say the word spiritual out

729
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Speaker 10: of context, but in that kind of realm, it is

730
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Speaker 10: going around and talking about the value of personal responsibility

731
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Speaker 10: and the blessings of liberty and kind of a conceptual,

732
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Speaker 10: kind of very American spirit sort of way. But practically speaking,

733
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Speaker 10: there are other matters involved. We have to encourage. We

734
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Speaker 10: have to start pushing for policies that encourage ownership, that

735
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Speaker 10: encourage we have to fix, for example, right to fix

736
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Speaker 10: for the farmers. We've got to start pulling back from

737
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Speaker 10: entitlement programs and showing that they aren't helping people. In fact,

738
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Speaker 10: they're causing damage. It's going to be a very difficult,

739
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Speaker 10: very arduous process to get people ready for the kind

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Speaker 10: of responsibility to take command back over their own lives,

741
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Speaker 10: especially people in cities where things are more complicated with

742
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Speaker 10: vertical integration and all of that. But it's going to

743
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Speaker 10: start by screaming about the blessings of freedom and the

744
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Speaker 10: value of responsibility. How much better your life gets, and

745
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Speaker 10: how much better your neighborhood gets, and how much better

746
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Speaker 10: your community and eventually your state and nation get when

747
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Speaker 10: the people are taking responsibility for themselves, their lives, their children,

748
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Speaker 10: and what comes in and out of their minds and bodies.

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Speaker 1: Let's hope they do it. James, appreciate you as always,

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Speaker 1: my brother.

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Speaker 2: All right, Look, I know there's a lot of domestic news,

752
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:14,319
Speaker 2: but the foreign affairs out there are getting spicy, dangerous.

753
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Speaker 2: Lisa Daftari is going to join us next to talk

754
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Speaker 2: about all this Iran, Ukraine, China, hang On.

755
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Speaker 9: I've already delivered the message to man.

756
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Speaker 8: They know not to.

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Speaker 2: What's going on in Iran, Iraq, Ukraine, China, Taiwan. Are

758
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Speaker 2: all these things connected? You wake up one day Iran

759
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:48,279
Speaker 2: is doing military drills with Russia, China, so on and

760
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Speaker 2: so forth.

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Speaker 1: Now everything's blowing up.

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Speaker 2: We need Lisa in here joining me now, the wonderful

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Speaker 2: Lisa Daftari, Editor in chief of the Foreign Desk.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Lisa, I wake up. I see Ron's dropping missiles

765
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Speaker 1: in Iraq on US, and I.

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Speaker 2: Can't help but think, Man, it sure seems like everything's

767
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Speaker 2: connected right now?

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Speaker 5: Oh yes, absolutely everything is connected. The puppeteer being a

769
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Speaker 5: RAN's regime that has been emboldened by our administration. It's

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Speaker 5: ironic to hear President Biden say that Iran has gotten

771
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Speaker 5: the message.

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Speaker 3: Well, the only message.

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Speaker 5: Ron got from President Biden is that they can do

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Speaker 5: whatever they want. There will be no consequences.

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Speaker 9: Right.

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Speaker 5: So, for three years, the Biden administration went back to

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Speaker 5: the table begging for a deal even when it made

778
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Speaker 5: no sense first in terms of national security or Iran's weapons.

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Speaker 5: We watched Ron's protesters on the streets and didn't give

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Speaker 5: them the support that they wanted for regime change. When

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Speaker 5: the Biden administration removed a sanction from Iran's regime, enabling

782
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Speaker 5: them to make revenue sixty billion dollars on their own

783
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Speaker 5: in spelling oil to partners like China, to sell weapons

784
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Speaker 5: to Russia, continue on with funding. Their proxies are now

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Speaker 5: firing and provoking the United States. So this only goes

786
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Speaker 5: to show us how in the matter it's more than

787
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Speaker 5: three years, but how they have expedited in three years

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Speaker 5: to put money to all their proxies, whether it's has Blain,

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Speaker 5: Lebanon we see and past Islamic jihad in Gaza, in

790
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Speaker 5: the West Bank, I mean, in Rock and the Housis

791
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Speaker 5: and Yemen. And of course now we're playing the consequences

792
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Speaker 5: where the Biden administration is to play blackamall and try

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Speaker 5: to deter them strike at the time absolutely not working.

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Speaker 2: Lisa, Okay, so you mentioned Iran, They're obviously controlling a

795
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Speaker 2: lot of things when it comes to the huties and otherwise,

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Speaker 2: is there a Russia connection. Is there a Chinese connection?

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Speaker 2: And how close are these countries? I know they've done

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Speaker 2: military drills together, but that can be a lot of

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Speaker 2: That can mean a lot of things. Either that means

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Speaker 2: we're best these or hey, every now and then we'll

801
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Speaker 2: fight together.

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Speaker 1: What does it mean.

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Speaker 5: Well, thus, the world we're living in right now, nobody

804
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 5: is really besties, meaning the word ally the way we

805
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 5: know it in traditional form policy is not the case anymore.

806
00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:02,080
Speaker 5: We have interest aligned initiatives, and so that's why you're

807
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Speaker 5: seeing China worked very closely together with Iran in the

808
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Speaker 5: endeavor of you know, really sticking it to the United States.

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Speaker 5: You see Russia coming to Iran to buy weapons. You

810
00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:12,640
Speaker 5: see Russia going to North Korea to buy weapons. So

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Speaker 5: there are countries that are these strange bedfellows working together

812
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Speaker 5: because they have interests right now that are aligned. And

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Speaker 5: then when it comes to other places competing for influence

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Speaker 5: in the continent of Africa, for example, they will be

815
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Speaker 5: competing against each other, both Around's regime and China, and

816
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Speaker 5: again in other cases working together.

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Speaker 3: So we should absolutely be fearful.

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Speaker 5: That our enemies are emboldened to work with each other

819
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Speaker 5: to evade the United States, whether it's in sanctions, whether

820
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Speaker 5: it's on policy, whether it's finding new trade partners.

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Speaker 3: And of course, if you've been.

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Speaker 5: Following the Bricks Convention, they are trying to even replace

823
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Speaker 5: the US dollars so completely working around the United States,

824
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Speaker 5: trying to find again partners where they can to again

825
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Speaker 5: empower themselves the way that they can can. We're also looking,

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Speaker 5: you know, at a time in history where the United

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Speaker 5: States is not the world leader when it comes to.

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Speaker 3: You know, so many things.

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Speaker 5: So we have these countries working together just to evade

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Speaker 5: the United States, work behind their back. Replace the dollar,

831
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Speaker 5: you know, in terms of replacing the economy, replacing you know,

832
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Speaker 5: that supremacy that the United States had on the world stage.

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Speaker 3: It is no longer.

834
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Speaker 5: And you also have countries that absolutely want.

835
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Speaker 3: That position in leadership.

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Speaker 5: If the United States doesn't want that, they see it

837
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Speaker 5: as up for grabs.

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Speaker 3: And of course we're getting that.

839
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Speaker 5: Sentiment from a Roun's regime, and of course China competing

840
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Speaker 5: with us in every which way, whether it's in terms

841
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Speaker 5: of military technology and of course calling the shots of

842
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Speaker 5: the region.

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Speaker 1: Lisa Zelenski.

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Speaker 2: There are reports that he's asking for some sort of

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Speaker 2: a peace conference in Switzerland.

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Speaker 1: What are we supposed to make of this? Is it

847
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Speaker 1: over for Ukraine? Is it? What's going on here?

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Speaker 7: Yah?

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Speaker 5: It seems like the money is dried out. I mean,

850
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Speaker 5: how much more money can can?

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Speaker 3: Can? You know?

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Speaker 1: The West give him? Uh?

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Speaker 3: And he's got, he's got. He's got to figure out

854
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Speaker 3: some sort of end to this.

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Speaker 5: Everyone wants to see an end to this, of course,

856
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Speaker 5: but we just don't know what that end will be.

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Speaker 5: What exit ramp we can take or have the ability

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Speaker 5: to take. Of course, Russia calling the shots here. They

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Speaker 5: have the upper hand militarily. They have been some gains

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Speaker 5: made by Ukraine, but not enough.

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Speaker 3: To sustain them in this war.

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Speaker 5: And if there's no more money coming in, then den

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Speaker 5: Zelensky is smart to move to now you know, some

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Speaker 5: sort of end to this entire wards, it's it's raged

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Speaker 5: on for more time than anybody would will like, billions

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Speaker 5: and billions going towards something that inevitably we would have

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Speaker 5: to come to this discussion.

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Speaker 8: Right.

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Speaker 3: So here we are, h Lisa, thank you so much.

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Speaker 2: You were the best. All right, we have light in

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Speaker 2: the mood. Next, all right, let's lighten the mood. And

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Speaker 2: you know what I appreciate you know. It lightens my

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Speaker 2: mood when journalists do their due diligence. You shouldn't just

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Speaker 2: report on a story. Track people down. Track people down

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Speaker 2: with knowledge of it. Reach out to everyone you can

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Speaker 2: for comment.

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Speaker 12: And since December, the chief says, the department has enhanced

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Speaker 12: its training and de escalation, tactical tactical communication, and crisis intervention.

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Speaker 12: We tried to reach out to the man who died

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Speaker 12: in this pursuit. They were unavailable for comment. Mich go

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Speaker 12: back to you.

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Speaker 1: They reached out, what do you want to do? God

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Speaker 1: didn't say anything. That's his problem. I'll see it them

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Speaker 1: on