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Speaker 1: Pats from the Past. Tune in is Matt Smith and

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Speaker 1: Paul Perilla offer in depth interviews with some of the

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Speaker 1: greatest players and coaches in New England Patriots history.

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Speaker 2: Joined by the newitch member of the Patriots Hall of Fame,

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Speaker 2: Mike Raybold.

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Speaker 1: Find out what led to some of the greatest moments

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Speaker 1: in franchise history and unique behind the scenes insight.

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Speaker 3: And please to be joined by former Patriot quarterback Brian

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Speaker 3: hoy Or.

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Speaker 4: Joined by number thirty seven on your scorecard, but number

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Speaker 4: one in our hearts at least Rodney Harrison.

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Speaker 5: Good to be home, Good to see you, guys.

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Speaker 6: And sets a high standard, you know, just like Doug does.

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Speaker 7: He has a high standard for himself in meetings on

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Speaker 7: the fields, and that creates urgency for everyone else when

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Speaker 7: they see him do it that way.

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Speaker 6: So every time he's around it helps us.

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Speaker 8: You've had some help from guys who kind of filled

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Speaker 8: in over the course, dear, But what does it mean

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Speaker 8: to use the position.

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Speaker 2: Coach to be able to have those two guys together

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Speaker 2: finally for maybe an extended period of time.

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Speaker 7: You're then the season, Yeah, I mean I can only

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Speaker 7: control what I can control, and Tungue and Pepper great players,

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Speaker 7: So you want great players. We have a lot of

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Speaker 7: great players on this team. And credit to the guys

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Speaker 7: you know, everything and been accountable. That's it's been a

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Speaker 7: great room to work with all year. And you know,

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Speaker 7: obviously adding players that you have at the roster at

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Speaker 7: the beginning of the season is always a good thing.

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Speaker 6: Because you expect them to be there. So it's exciting.

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Speaker 6: You know. Yeah, I love the whole room and I'm glad,

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Speaker 6: you know, we have the guys that we have. I'm

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Speaker 6: really lucky to work with these guys every day.

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Speaker 9: He's been he's been great for me and a lot

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Speaker 9: of things that we're able to do right now. Ah,

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Speaker 9: you know goes through him like he's done a great

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Speaker 9: and you know he's worked, he's worked to get that,

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Speaker 9: brings a great attitude, very tough kid.

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Speaker 8: Sorry coming late, but just how much of a problem

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Speaker 9: A big one about as big as he is, big dude, speed, smart,

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Speaker 9: I mean they come out in the middle of the

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Speaker 8: How helpful is that you have a guy like melting

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Speaker 9: Joe's been quick for us all year, really emulating a

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Speaker 9: I guess you never want to get used to, you know,

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Speaker 9: saying that, but at the same time, I take it,

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Speaker 5: Not letting that be the mindset.

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Speaker 9: But at the same time, the leaders and the catalysts

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Speaker 5: Like it is all about the process.

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Speaker 9: I mean, obviously the execution on Sundays have a key

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Speaker 7: A lot of these young guys, they're not used to

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Speaker 4: But what's what's some of the keys you think, especially

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Speaker 9: You know, we talked talk about it a lot of

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Speaker 9: so the same the same mindset, same matter too, the

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Speaker 5: But you know, at the end of the day, it's

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Speaker 9: You know, when you wake up and you think about,

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Speaker 9: Those are the same aspirations and mentality that you take

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Speaker 9: And you know, I don't think that that's a question

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Speaker 5: What have you seen from Christian Elis? Uh?

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Speaker 4: You know you talked to him, that's such a passion

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Speaker 9: And then again, those are the guys that you talk

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Speaker 9: about as far as being a catalyst. You know, Ellis

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Speaker 9: whether it's him being out earlier practice and you know,

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Speaker 9: But those are the guys that you want to have

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Speaker 10: So it's just another athletic quarterback. Seeing more and more

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean, just again, anytime you play an athletic quarterback,

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Speaker 10: I mean, it's no different than probably facing you know, Drake.

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Speaker 10: So we just got to do a good job, do

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Speaker 7: How much does that help just going up against Drake

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Speaker 3: Comes in with the white expectations. Obviously off the field.

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Speaker 5: How is Keon grown off the field? Yeah?

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Speaker 10: I'm with him when he's in the building. I Mean,

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Speaker 10: He's a pro. He comes in, he prepares, you know,

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Speaker 10: I couldn't tell you what he's doing outside of the building.

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Speaker 5: Absolutely, I feel.

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Speaker 3: Like maybe more so in terms of you know, meeting

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Speaker 10: I think he's accepted his role and has stepped up.

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Speaker 10: We just you know, there's still improvement that everybody can make.

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Speaker 10: And it's so different than with.

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Speaker 11: Him because run from right here, I don't really have

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Speaker 11: I really got to stop these routes because my help's there,

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Speaker 11: Like understanding where my help is and thinking big picture.

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Speaker 11: That's where guys get. That's the hardest thing from a

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Speaker 11: There's a little bit of that. There's a little bit

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Speaker 2: And then getting with the coles. Eli Peerston one of

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Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean, you saw Peers as second, the second

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Speaker 5: It was great.

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Speaker 11: It was a great catch. He's got poise at the

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Speaker 11: you know, he caught a great the exact same pass

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Speaker 5: Is their step.

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Speaker 11: You know, he's a talented receiver. Probably doesn't get enough credit.

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Speaker 11: You know, he definitely does some really good things out

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Speaker 5: He covers, So what do you see from him? I also,

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Speaker 11: Well, how to get in better in terms of covering

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Speaker 5: His first year.

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Speaker 11: You know, just try to stay away from the contact

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Speaker 11: So I'm a quick guy, small, quick guy, and you

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Speaker 11: try to use my closing speed, that play speed we

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Speaker 11: You just gotta win and to have that dog mentality

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Speaker 2: And what does it say about Marcus that against like

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Speaker 5: By the end of it.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, no, proud of his fight. He's got a lot

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Speaker 11: I don't I ask these guys when we're playing man

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Speaker 11: We run into it like that's that's what we do.

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Speaker 11: You just gotta make it contested, make them make great plays.

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Speaker 11: If they make great plays, right, tip the hat, right,

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Speaker 11: good player, I'm gonna go get you on the next one.

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Speaker 6: What changes for your group if anything at all.

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Speaker 7: When you play a design quarterback run game and a

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Speaker 11: Richardson, man, you see him running guys over. Yeah, he's

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Speaker 11: running some big guys over too.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 11: That was when I saw him hit Branch, and I

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Speaker 11: know Branch is strong. I was like, okay, yeah, this

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Speaker 9: Yeah.

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Speaker 11: Plus all the other tape, that was just the first

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Speaker 11: bunch of factors, right, That's what I talked about before

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Speaker 2: It seemed like last week Christian was shadowing Tyreek Kill

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Speaker 5: That seemed like a pretty unique wrinkle. What maybe went

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Speaker 11: That's an excellent observation, But yeah, no, just game planning

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