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Speaker 2: And how the hell.

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Speaker 1: We feel in here on this morning?

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Speaker 1: Everybody fired up? Sure?

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Speaker 1: Pre season action? Good coming up later on tonight.

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Speaker 3: We got preseason action, all right?

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Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, once an LB, always a LB.

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you that, that's right. Yeah, man, people getting hippy.

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Speaker 3: I bet you this music was playing when that was

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what kind of music are they firing up in

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Speaker 4: I'm telling you that was playing this song right here.

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Speaker 4: It was playing. Well, that was taking place so little Pantera?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, why not?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, get everybody, Get everybody to let.

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Speaker 2: This is the right about the time in training camp

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Speaker 2: or people have just about had to camp at.

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Speaker 3: Camp camp by time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but I was told by by somebody in the know.

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Speaker 3: That you can have camp by any time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the camp I starts almost immediately that that's what

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Speaker 4: It kind of does start immediately. Does It's like, dang,

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Speaker 4: I'm in camp like some people more than others though,

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Speaker 4: Like some people, it's like you feel more bolder about

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Speaker 4: you know, when you have camp. I like, I'm want

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Speaker 4: you don't. That's camp. I now the ones that the

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Speaker 5: Them, like dogs in heat.

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Speaker 4: That's yeah, I mean yes, kind of what it is.

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Speaker 4: You know, you're you're there to hunt, You're you're there. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: you're there to get out there. And sometimes you see

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Speaker 4: they just look way better. It's like gas station proposition

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Speaker 3: You know, here we go.

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Speaker 6: I'm just saying, it's a gas station food.

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Speaker 2: You know, sometimes you gotta do it. You don't want to,

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Speaker 2: but if there's nothing within one hundred miles is what

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Speaker 3: Crazy. I've never really been in the gas station food.

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Speaker 5: Say, I've actually never eaten gas station food either.

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Speaker 1: It's a terrible analogy. Oh that's right. You drive a Tesla.

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Speaker 4: Got it got to be rich to not want to

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Speaker 5: Who drives a Tesla? Do you drive a Tesla?

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Speaker 1: Sorry for speaking, I don't hear for the common man,

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Speaker 1: I drive a Ford.

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Speaker 5: I'm not like one of those guys drives a Toyota.

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Speaker 5: I'm more I'm more American in that sense.

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Speaker 5: Well, if this would be the type of guy who

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Speaker 1: Oh no, No, I played in high school.

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Speaker 5: I mean how that? Howd the training camp go for you?

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Speaker 1: What do you what do you mean? I got lit up?

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Speaker 3: You guys didn't haze in high school. We haze. We

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Speaker 3: You know, I could never tell you some of the stories.

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Speaker 4: I told you one last week, important enough a player

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Speaker 4: You know, you got to risk it on thus players.

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Speaker 4: You was going nowhere fast. Third and then one's going

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Speaker 1: Damn.

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Speaker 3: What position did you play?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well you had to play it was wide receiver,

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Speaker 4: Let me see your stance. Let me see I do.

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Speaker 4: I want to see your stance. You're on the line

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, it wasn't that was That was kind of

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Speaker 4: I'm getting canceled if I say what that looked like.

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Speaker 4: You know, I'm doing the beating up, bowling the ring.

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Speaker 4: You guys would last ten seconds in my world who.

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Speaker 3: Were getting beat up?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: That The only thing idea is training camps is.

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Speaker 1: Not what it used to be. You know.

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Speaker 3: We were in high school, Like.

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Speaker 6: I remember going away for a week to a D

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Speaker 5: I got cool enough. At night you could fall asleep.

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Speaker 6: But like I remember those days of like just training camp,

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Speaker 5: Training camp was drastically different.

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Speaker 6: I mean, I mean, I remember going to training camp

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Speaker 6: you know, they're so obsessed with hydration. Every time you're

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Speaker 4: Just I'm gonna tell you an opportunity. I want to

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Speaker 4: what it probably was then for us is that camp

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Speaker 4: I was purely based off of what was in front

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Speaker 4: I'm away from normal society, so whatever, Like if it's

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Speaker 4: that's that's printing dittos and and and papers, is is

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Speaker 4: it the photographer, Like at some point cats be ready

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Speaker 4: Like I think I would give her a compliment. Hey, buddy,

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Speaker 3: It's camp I.

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Speaker 4: Then. The reason why I think CAMPI is worse now

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Speaker 4: is because it's not limited to what's right in front

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Speaker 4: of your face. You probably get you probably get social

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Speaker 4: slide in DMS, you'll make poor decisions on what you're

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Speaker 4: doing with your social because great point.

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Speaker 3: You got CAMPI.

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Speaker 5: That's a great point.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I wasn't.

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Speaker 6: I wasn't factoring the the ease of you know that,

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Speaker 5: The yep swipe here.

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Speaker 4: Yeah YEAHM here watching watching Jonas and and and lead

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Speaker 4: play around with that that whole site. The other day

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Speaker 4: I was like, man, that's a camp I site. That's

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Speaker 4: one hundred percent of camps wipe. Like, imagine if you

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Speaker 4: had a readily available dating app or let's let's what

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Speaker 4: y'all call it, let's hook up app, and you're in

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Speaker 4: training camp. Oh your your camp your camp I is

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Speaker 4: you're in danger if you're a camp I type of guy.

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Speaker 4: There's an app called that what can.

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 4: Let's hook up should be a should be a site,

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Speaker 4: and camp I should be also should be a site.

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Speaker 3: They should both be dating site.

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Speaker 4: Don't you start that up? A campus I can't do everything, man,

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Speaker 4: why not? That's just camp I don't have the bandwidth

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Speaker 4: to do all of these things. But that is a

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Speaker 4: hell of a concept, and somebody's probably writing it down

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Speaker 4: right now, like they're right, we should do an app

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Speaker 4: called CAMPI because all across America you will have football

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Speaker 2: And then Camp I turns in the Camp D. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: there you go.

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Speaker 1: Well, and Camp D is way more dangerous than camp.

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Speaker 3: Camp. Camp is all about the action of looking and wondering.

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Speaker 6: Camp D is like, yeah, it's like it's like windows shopping.

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Speaker 6: That's the closest thing. It's two. It's like windows shopping

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Speaker 6: where it's close to Christmas. You gotta you gotta make

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Speaker 2: Well Station food Yeah, well, well listen, I do know

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Speaker 1: That's what we're trying to build, I think.

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Speaker 7: And to start with the coach starts to the head coach,

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Speaker 1: But for mentality, I like it. I think that's what

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Speaker 2: So se uh, Mike Rabel is going to end up

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Speaker 2: He's everything has changed there. You don't feel different about that.

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Speaker 1: He didn't get blooded up.

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Speaker 6: think Mike Rabel's different because he's had success, He's won

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Speaker 6: And that's an example of that is him jumping in

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Speaker 6: Maybe he was looking for something too, you know, maybe

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Speaker 5: You know, turned up there.

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Speaker 2: He's the best hire of the off season. Everyone's talking

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Speaker 2: Stefan Diggs, can you know, stay off the two C

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Speaker 2: and you know this?

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Speaker 4: Wow, Well we find out more and more dudes was

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Speaker 3: Why why stay off of it?

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Speaker 3: Really, yeah, I just saw it. I just saw clip.

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Speaker 6: Like I knew a guy who was habitually high, practice

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Speaker 6: I'm not advocating for this in any fashion or form,

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Speaker 3: Play Matt was stepping sixty thousand people.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you got it or yeah, and and maybe it

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Speaker 5: And it sounds completely completely.

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Speaker 6: Jacked up, but if if that's how they get there

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Speaker 3: So that's out the Brailen Edwards. Uh, you know, I'm joking.

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Speaker 4: But but here's what I will say, just cribs man, Well,

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Speaker 4: Just I said he was always high, but I'm just

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Speaker 1: I love you, man.

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Speaker 3: I mean, Joe could have been Joe definitely.

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Speaker 4: Joe might have been extra extra curricular from from that anyways,

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Speaker 4: A we had a ton of characters on on that

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Speaker 4: Kurt I saw him recently, did you.

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Speaker 5: He's in South Florida.

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Speaker 4: Big dude, now, bro, Like you'd be like, hey, so

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Speaker 4: Big Kirk got a little bit bigger. But let me

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Speaker 4: That dude looked like that somebody went up to a

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Speaker 4: maybe you're right, you know, Jerraimeo may have been trying

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Speaker 4: you do have to find a way to make that connection.

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Speaker 4: the same exact things Gerii Mayor is doing. I mean,

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Speaker 4: Gerrod spent time coaching with Bill Belichick. I almost feel like,

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Speaker 4: it up. He comes out bloody. It's a great feel

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Speaker 4: good story. But I just think that I think it's better.

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Speaker 4: I think it's based in context and context.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Then T toes down this team.

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Speaker 5: I bet this team finishes second the division.

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Speaker 4: I bet you this team finishes with less than double

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Speaker 4: digit wins.

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Speaker 1: It sticks picked.

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Speaker 5: That's so that's such a bad deal.

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Speaker 1: But let's pick with it in the division.

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Speaker 3: So you got Miami, you got.

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Speaker 4: Tennessee over under draft.

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Speaker 5: Jets, Miami and Buffalo and New England.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Buffalo will win it, Miami will come in second.

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Speaker 1: Okay, there you got who's those third? It's you for

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Speaker 1: you to pick. That's you know, I'm saying Tennessee and

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Speaker 1: the Jets. Yeah, I mean come on.

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Speaker 4: No, who is it? New England and the Jets? Right,

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Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying. That's those are the last two remaining.

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Speaker 5: You keep saying Tennessee. Tennessee's Nancy.

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Speaker 3: I keep saying Tennessee. I meant to say, no.

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Speaker 5: The af C South is the division you did not

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Speaker 5: pick last year.

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Speaker 2: The division picks Nashville is a suburb right outside Boston.

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Speaker 1: All right, everybody relaxing.

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Speaker 4: I'm meant to say New England. But they're both irrelevant,

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Speaker 4: and one is connected to the other because rabel is

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Speaker 4: the head coach of both teams. Some hump, here's where

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Speaker 4: my my head is. Put some pol humps. I have

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Speaker 4: no problem putting it on pole humps. Y'all won't do

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Speaker 4: you go, y'all won't y'all would have been some pump

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Speaker 4: old humping mother efforts if y'all took the bet right now?

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Speaker 4: I gave y'all right now, okay, we did that. They

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Speaker 4: finished second, Jets. I'm betting they finished second. They will finish.

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Speaker 4: Pull humps on it.

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Speaker 1: Here's what's crazy. They will finish. Put five on it.

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Speaker 4: They will finish last, because I think the Jets will

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Speaker 4: actually be somewhat better.

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Speaker 1: Put five on it.

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Speaker 3: Okay, five.

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Speaker 1: You think the Patriots is going to be last in

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Speaker 1: that division? I'll take that.

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Speaker 3: Okay, there we go.

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Speaker 5: Now we're talking.

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Speaker 3: Okay, now we're talking. I think they end up last.

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Speaker 6: So all the all the Pats have to do is

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Speaker 6: finish better than last.

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Speaker 4: No, No, the bet is is that they won't finish. Second,

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Speaker 4: the bet is that they won't. Hold on, hold on,

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Speaker 4: I'm making the bowl. They'll probably finished last, but they're not.

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Speaker 1: Make sure. Second, let's make sure we get this right.

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Speaker 6: I'm not betting that they won't finish because if they

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Speaker 6: finished first some in some world where they would beat Buffalo,

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Speaker 6: then that also would fall in the category of you

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Speaker 6: wouldn't win that.

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Speaker 1: That's well. Listen, yeah, we're going to bridge.

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Speaker 6: We'll figure this out. We're gonna break, We'll figure this

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Speaker 6: out on the other side of it.

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Speaker 1: Does that sound good? That's fine?

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Speaker 3: All right, let's do it.

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Speaker 1: Let's get bloody, let's let's get let's get into the scrown.

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Speaker 1: So camps.

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Speaker 2: So what started out is a camp I ended up

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Speaker 2: in sticks picks.

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Speaker 1: Ah. This is a hell of a segment here. It

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Speaker 1: is two pros and a cup of Joe.

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Speaker 2: turns towards the optimism around the Patriots. I'm optimistic, Rady's optimistic.

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Speaker 2: LaVar Arrington says they're gonna be one of the worst

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Speaker 2: teams in them.

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Speaker 3: Skeptical.

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Speaker 4: I'm just always skeptical about quick changes without without real

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Speaker 4: what what is the proof? What was the reasoning behind

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Speaker 4: saying that there's just going to be this, you know,

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Speaker 4: dramatic shift, and and what their achievements and what their

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Speaker 4: accomplishments are. Some of the elements are too much the same,

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Speaker 4: Drake Main your two they went out and got aggressive

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Speaker 4: and free ad but you got a new you got

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Speaker 4: a new coach.

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Speaker 3: He's with a new coaching staff.

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Speaker 1: Josh McDaniels.

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Speaker 5: He's really good offensive coordinator.

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Speaker 4: He's really good as a coordinator. That's that's fine, and

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Speaker 4: and has done well in Newing.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so what's the bet then? What's the bet?

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Speaker 4: I'll say the safer bet for me is they won't

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Speaker 4: finish second second.

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Speaker 3: I do believe that you can't.

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Speaker 1: You can't phrase it that way, well like you have

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Speaker 1: to phrase it in a way.

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Speaker 6: Where like if they finished first, we can't be penalized

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Speaker 6: for being like, no, we do think they'll finish second

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Speaker 6: or better.

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Speaker 3: No, so what are you saying second?

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Speaker 1: Second?

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Speaker 6: Is I think they'll finish second. I'll put it this way.

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Speaker 6: The way you're saying it doesn't work for betting. So

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Speaker 6: how I'd say it is they will finish second or better.

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Speaker 1: Twins whenst that is great, that might be the bettest

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Speaker 1: one that that might be the best one.

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Speaker 4: And it totally caught me off guard that as totally

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Speaker 4: who was responsible. They will be second or better from Quinn,

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Speaker 4: Brady Quinn, that was my.

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Speaker 1: Twins Whens, way way more relevant. That just gave me camp.

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Speaker 1: That's way better than any other.

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Speaker 3: Ever had in the history.

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Speaker 4: Revant your mic off during breaks next time? Jeez, so

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Speaker 4: relevant must be hard looking like Brady Quinn. All right,

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Speaker 4: So so I'm taking I'm taking the under on that, right,

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Speaker 4: So let me just damn.

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Speaker 3: There we go. You're saying the finished third or fourth?

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Speaker 6: Yes, okay, I do want to throw on some stats,

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Speaker 6: just as I like doing stats. Right, Okay, Uh, they've

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Speaker 6: lost I want to say six or seven games last

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Speaker 6: year as a four win team, Number one score games.

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Speaker 6: Jonas talked about some of the additions they made. Obviously

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Speaker 6: Stefan Diggs. We'll see if two C plays a factor

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Speaker 6: or not, whatever the case may be. Adding him to

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Speaker 6: that wide receiver corps is much needed and it'll compliment

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Speaker 6: some young guys they've got who are still kind of

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Speaker 6: blossoming right tomorrow. Douglas has flashed, Kayshawn Bouett has been

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Speaker 6: you know, he's been a part of that. This is

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Speaker 6: a team though, with Hunter Henry and some other pizza

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Speaker 6: tight end too. They've got enough and with McDaniel's calling plays,

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Speaker 6: this would be a better offense defensively. Last year bottom

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Speaker 6: half of the league. It's tough too though, when you're

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Speaker 6: playing with an offense that's really struggling to score and

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Speaker 6: where the writing feels like it's on the wall. It

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Speaker 6: felt like that team was at a state of disarray

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Speaker 6: at times without drawd mail handle things.

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Speaker 1: So to me, I look at it, I think this will.

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Speaker 6: Be a team that's much improved, not only in the roster,

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Speaker 6: but not only the management of the team, but then

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Speaker 6: how this team is going to operate and how this

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Speaker 6: team is going to perform. And by the way, the

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Speaker 6: last thing I'd say is they have the third easiest

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Speaker 6: schedule in the entire NFL.

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Speaker 1: San Francisco is the easiest. They're right there at number three.

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Speaker 6: So that sets up for me for the Patriots to

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Speaker 6: be a team that finishes second and does take that

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Speaker 6: leap compared to the Jets, compared to the Dolphins.

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Speaker 4: Somebody got it out for you. Bruh, what's happening right,

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Speaker 4: Somebody's got it out for you, Brady.

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Speaker 2: Quick special, because it's all it's the way to not

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Speaker 2: absolutely not Lorena, bre Do I have anything?

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Speaker 3: Lorenda?

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Speaker 5: Who comes up with this?

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Speaker 1: I believe I do. According to the text chain it

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Speaker 1: was ve there's some options. Miss one is payback, there's more,

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Speaker 1: there are more? Oh how many?

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Speaker 4: Oh we're not telling you today. All right, let's do it.

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Speaker 4: Let's spind the chain. Let's let's make a bet on this.

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Speaker 4: How many more do you think there are? There are

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Speaker 4: plus one? Plus one is the it's the number for betting,

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Speaker 4: saure do you think never would.

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Speaker 5: Venture down the stroad? I'm scared at this point.

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Speaker 2: I would say both of those are the are better

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Speaker 2: than the original.

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Speaker 1: The original that had the Mario Brothers theme. It just

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Speaker 1: didn't terrible it just wasn't wins wist.

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Speaker 4: I mean, it just seems so generical now looking back

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Speaker 4: on it. From the first we've got, from the last

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Speaker 4: two that we're just played, we've got rating men and

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Speaker 4: that was the best one. Multiple moans, the moans and

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Speaker 4: groans is good just because you know, that's how these

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Speaker 4: girls be looking at Brady and guys. I'm sure, but

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Speaker 4: that last one was kind of relevant in context. That

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Speaker 4: is true. Hey, a great point. It must be nice

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Speaker 4: to be Brady quick. All I'm gonna say here is

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Speaker 4: a lot of the things that that you said are

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Speaker 4: based off of hope, so's.

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Speaker 6: You know, this is you know, actually it's actually all factual,

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Speaker 6: Like no, it's schedules, not like an opinion, that's just

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Speaker 6: the reality of how they construct.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but but based off of if Stefan Diggs will

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Speaker 4: be this, and if they manage the team and if

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Speaker 4: McDaniel McDaniels calls the games.

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Speaker 6: When you say that's the case with every team when

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Speaker 6: you're predicting something in the future.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, sure, but but some more than others. All right,

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Speaker 4: So someone in Miami right now with the Jets, go

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Speaker 4: with the Jets of my Yeah, but I would say

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Speaker 4: that there's still more stability and familiarity that's that exists

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Speaker 4: in Miami than what exists in New England.

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Speaker 1: So I'm Daniel's make or break years it could.

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Speaker 4: Be and and once you have that that awareness of

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Speaker 4: where you're at and what your accomplishment level is, their

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00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 4: make or break season is based off of them getting

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Speaker 4: further along in the season, most likely more than likely

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Speaker 4: the playoffs. So if you are if, I just I

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00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 4: think it's different as hypotheticals that got to play out

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Speaker 4: for New England, and that leaves skepticism for me because

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Speaker 4: I just don't feel like ifs I got to see

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Speaker 4: IFS play out before I'm a believer of what they're

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00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:41,360
Speaker 4: going to do all right.

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Speaker 2: On DraftKings Division Winner odds for the AFC East, the

686
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:49,240
Speaker 2: Bills are a minus three ten So that's the biggest favorite.

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Speaker 1: In the league. Uh and and for good reason.

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00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 2: The Patriots are second at plus four seventy five. Oh wird,

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Speaker 2: The Dolphins are third at plus nine hundred ridden and

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Speaker 2: the Jets are fourth at plus eighteen hundred.

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Speaker 4: I think I think the Dolphins pick is a money pick.

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Speaker 1: Sticks pick, that's a money pick.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's a money pick. I I certainly

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Speaker 4: will not win the Oh gosh, why do you do

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Speaker 4: that every time? It happens to because in your mind

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Speaker 4: it's you cocking a rifle? Huh cocking?

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Speaker 5: When's the last time you even shot a gun?

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Speaker 3: Jonas? Have you ever shot a gun?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Every time I do curls. Oh gosh, what type of

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Speaker 4: gun is that? What type of guns?

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Speaker 1: All right?

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Speaker 4: Get a nosebleedy climb up here that when you flex

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Speaker 4: both of your muscles, it kind of just stole my buddy,

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Speaker 4: you look like a hanger.

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Speaker 3: He definitely, it.

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Speaker 4: Looked like that a memorial I can't buy. No, I

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Speaker 4: don't you killed it? You killed the whole entire move well,

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00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:08,799
Speaker 4: third place or worse. It is two pros and a

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Speaker 4: cup of joe.

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Speaker 2: Here on Fox Sports Radio, LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas

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Speaker 2: Knox with you here. By the way, can we just

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00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:16,760
Speaker 2: copy and paste this when we're doing our season picks

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00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 2: for the AFC East so.

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Speaker 1: That we woul don't have to redo it again. Let's

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Speaker 1: just do that. Let's get creating, and I'd.

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Speaker 5: Like to go to my records and everything and take it.

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00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:26,920
Speaker 4: Who will have the better record, Bill Belichick or Mike Rabel.

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Speaker 5: Well, the tough thing is one team plays seventeen games.

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Speaker 3: One doesn't.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, but in kind of you know, context, like

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00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 4: or in proportion's sake, whatever, the college season represents very able.

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Speaker 4: What the NFL season? Their wind titles the hundred, like

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00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:48,320
Speaker 4: you know the percentile, like will they be over fifty percent?

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00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 4: Their win totals sixty win totals eight and a half?

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00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 4: What is Carolinas? Do we know?

727
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:56,840
Speaker 5: If I had a guess, I bet it's also at

728
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Speaker 5: eight and a half.

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00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:01,240
Speaker 3: So they're predicting them to have a better season.

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Speaker 6: Then I actually think he's got a very winnable schedule.

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Speaker 6: It's gonna come down to quarterback plays. It mostly does,

732
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:13,319
Speaker 6: but the kickoff versus at home, versus TCU, then they

733
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:15,920
Speaker 6: play at Charlotte, it's a winnable game. I mean TCU

734
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 6: should be a winnable game too, especially if their quarterbacks

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00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:23,600
Speaker 6: distracted by anything furry. Let's see Richmond. I mean again,

736
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:26,880
Speaker 6: should win that game at UCF Week four, that's probably

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00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:29,359
Speaker 6: the toughest game to start off. They've got to buy

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Speaker 6: before Clemson that they host, and that's by far and

739
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:32,759
Speaker 6: away the.

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00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 5: Most difficult game.

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Speaker 6: They should at cal Virginia at Syracuse. That'll be a

742
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:41,760
Speaker 6: tough one. Even though they've kind of had the retool

743
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 6: rebuild Stanford, same thing they've laid down at Wake, Duke

744
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 6: at UNC. I mean it, it really sets up Duke was

745
00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:51,480
Speaker 6: good last year. They you know, like the kid they

746
00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 6: brought in from Totlanta quarterback. That'll be another tough one.

747
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:56,160
Speaker 6: They've got three tough games. They've got to buy before one.

748
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:59,480
Speaker 6: And yeah, I think there they could be a eight

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00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:00,319
Speaker 6: to nine one team.

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Speaker 1: Quinn sweats, You'll be a Winn Chappelle.

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Speaker 5: It's my favorite one.

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Speaker 1: I thought it was Obama.

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Speaker 5: No, it's Ve Chappelle.

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Speaker 1: Quinn Swetts, You'll be a winner. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Uh Well their wind total North Carolina seven and a

756
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:25,719
Speaker 2: half on DraftKings, So okay, I.

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00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 4: Think that's on that. Yeah, I think it's a good number,

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00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:30,440
Speaker 4: but I'm I will take the over on that.

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Speaker 1: I actually believes.

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00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:36,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, I actually believe Carolina will have a respectable year.

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00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:38,719
Speaker 3: I really do.

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00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:42,840
Speaker 4: Just all that young energy that that Bill Belichick is bringing,

763
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:45,319
Speaker 4: that aura, I just think that that's what it's going

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00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 4: to be.

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Speaker 1: Great call.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, two pros and a cup of Joe Fox Sports Radio,

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Speaker 2: LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here. Coming

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Speaker 2: up next though, we are going to tell you about

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Speaker 2: some good news in the NFL right here on FSR.

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Speaker 2: an opportunity presented to an NFL player this weekend.

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Speaker 8: sports or entertainment. Good thing the guys are here to

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Speaker 8: bring you in case you missed.

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Speaker 2: executive producer bre miro In for a lead to LA.

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Speaker 1: Guys excited to be here.

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Speaker 10: I always had a lot of fun with the smelling

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Speaker 10: salts controversy.

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Speaker 1: Yesterday I listened to it. That was really good.

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Speaker 10: But the NFL p A clarified the league's new rule

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Speaker 10: and actually said that they're not prohibited from They're prohibited

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Speaker 10: from using it and supplying it, but it doesn't actually

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Speaker 10: stop players from actually using it or buying it themselves.

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Speaker 3: So as long as you bring your own right, that's

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Speaker 3: what it is. Why oh ye.

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Speaker 10: B y s s polog.

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Speaker 5: By awesome, bye awesome.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure it's important like that for some people to.

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Speaker 5: Do it, Like what by awesome?

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Speaker 1: I don't be I just don't. I don't understand. So

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Speaker 1: they just don't want to be held accountable.

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Speaker 10: For responsible, like held responsible like.

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Speaker 2: If some guy has a seizure, they're gonna be hey,

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Speaker 2: not our salts.

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Speaker 5: It's all about liability, man.

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Speaker 6: Like at some point you're gonna realize attorneys have ruined

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Speaker 6: this world, all right. Everything that we have to do

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Speaker 6: for precautionary reasons is from some attorneys.

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Speaker 5: Like you know, you could you could lose your you

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Speaker 5: could get sued.

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Speaker 6: You you better, you better think about putting a clause

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Speaker 6: in here, you better think about changing that contract.

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Speaker 1: You better adjust something here in the collective.

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Speaker 4: Bargaining agreement, or somebody's already sued over some type of

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Speaker 4: some side effect or something and they're like, oh, here's you.

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Speaker 6: Better not get hostile to seven on seven tournament with

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Speaker 6: the guy with an oh.

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Speaker 1: No what that

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Speaker 4: Very passive, aggressive, horrible Brady Quinn horrible