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Speaker 1: Smell us now, lady, Welcome to Meet Eater Trivia the

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Speaker 1: Meta podcast. Welcome to Meet Eater Radio Live. It's eleven

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Speaker 1: am Mountain Time. That's also eleven am for our friends

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Speaker 1: in Poplar, Montana, on Thursday February twenty sixth, and we're

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Speaker 1: live from Meat Eater Hqan Bozeman. I'm your host, Spencer,

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Speaker 1: joined today by Randall and Seth, as well as the

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Speaker 1: Poplar Middle School from Fort Peck Reservation in northeast Montana.

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Speaker 1: They are here to see how a media company. You

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Speaker 1: can see them live. We're live our YouTube channel right now.

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Speaker 1: You guys are really nervous.

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Speaker 2: Right, you guys should wave to our viewers. No, okay,

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Speaker 2: so hi.

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Speaker 1: We told them they couldn't cost live on air, so

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Speaker 1: they got all their cussing out right before we went live,

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Speaker 1: and I'll do some more later.

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Speaker 2: It was shocking to be frank all right.

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Speaker 1: On today's show, we'll interview Sergeant Ian van Ness about

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Speaker 1: Canada's Polar Bear Jail. After that, we have a hot

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Speaker 1: tip off about PBC rod holders and finding lost arrows,

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Speaker 1: followed by a review of the legacy of a white

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Speaker 1: tail deer hunter for Meat Eater Movie Club. And finally

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Speaker 1: we'll interview Emilia Delbero about winning gold at the Cheesemonger Olympics.

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Speaker 1: But first we have a few programming notes. Our first

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Speaker 1: video of meat Eaters twelve and twenty six is live

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Speaker 1: on the Meat Eater YouTube channel right now. Giannis goes

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Speaker 1: on his first baited bear hunt and encounters more bears

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Speaker 1: than you can shake an arrow at. It's a one

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Speaker 1: hour film that's presented by Moultrie and on x. You

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Speaker 1: can see it on our YouTube channel right now. Phil,

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Speaker 1: you have some details about another podcast coming out that

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. Giannis is going to be doing a

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Speaker 2: Q and A and fielding questions about that episode. So

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Speaker 2: you have any any burning questions for Yannis about about

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Speaker 2: the hunt or his experiences there, get him in. That's

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Speaker 2: going to be dropping next Tuesday, which is the the third,

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Speaker 2: March third. Check that out March third. He's little camera,

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Speaker 3: Cut it off the corner. He's leading, uh the tour

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Speaker 1: And they're joining us for our second to last episode

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Speaker 1: of Media Radio Live. Next week is the finale, and

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Speaker 1: Seth won't be joining us.

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Speaker 4: This is my last episode ever of Media Radio Live.

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Speaker 4: My wife is going to have a kid next Thursday.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, congratulations.

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Speaker 1: Not very good planning on your part though to put

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Speaker 1: it during the Meat Eater Radio.

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Speaker 5: Wow.

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Speaker 4: You know, it wasn't supposed to be, but one thing

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Speaker 4: led to another. The little dude does not want to

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Speaker 3: And I'm hopeful that if everything goes well and we

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Speaker 3: Seth maybe for our very last, our very last report.

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Speaker 2: Baby's actually coming out early in the morning.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, good time, still make it in so.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, Seth, some cultures believe in reincarnation, you know,

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Speaker 1: like the Pope dies and then Cardi B has a

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Speaker 1: baby and it's like, welcome back to Pope. The same

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Speaker 1: day that Media Radio Live dies, your son is going.

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Speaker 2: To be borne.

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Speaker 1: Maybe I'm going to call that baby little meat e

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Speaker 1: to Radio Live for the rest of its life.

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Speaker 3: You can do it a rough go.

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Speaker 1: No, I don't.

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Speaker 2: Virgil, Virgil, Virgil is his name, Virgil.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to call it radio or Yes, it's exactly

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Speaker 4: This is Spencer. He's gonna call you radio. He'll be

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Speaker 3: Yeah, just let them. But we're all thinking it.

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Speaker 1: That'd be an interesting child if it comes out, is

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Speaker 1: For our finale, we have something very special planned. Randall,

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Speaker 1: fill some folks in and what's going to happen next Thursday.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think everybody here is eagerly awaiting the Meet

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean, you know, with mixed emotions, of course.

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Speaker 2: And that's not that's not a joke.

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Speaker 3: That's not a joke. We have guest hosts lined up

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Speaker 6: A music video, a music video Phil Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I mean there's a lot to look forward to.

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Speaker 2: And because it's six hours, we're not expecting everyone to

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Speaker 2: We're gonna play some play some games, play some games

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Speaker 1: That's right. We will talk to the chat all day,

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Speaker 1: when you're a kid, to be like, oh you like that. Huh, well,

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Speaker 1: One week, Yeah, there's going to be a movie club

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Speaker 1: for that. When do we know what movie it'll be yet?

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Speaker 3: Yes, we'll be reviewing the film of Congo.

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Speaker 3: It's one of my favorite movies. It involves not necessarily hunting,

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Speaker 3: And it's actually the adaptation is remarkably faithful.

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Speaker 1: Joining us on the line first is Sergeant Ian van Nest.

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Speaker 1: He's a Manitoba conservation officer in the polar bear capital

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Speaker 1: of the world. Ian, welcome to the show.

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Speaker 1: We're excited to have you that.

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Speaker 1: You live and work in a place that has as

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Speaker 5: So I'm in charge of the Polar Bear Alert program,

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Speaker 1: Can you explain what the polar bear alert program is?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's an APEX predator co management program where the

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Speaker 5: And it's the bears that are hanging around town that

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Speaker 1: What's the closest that you've come to being attacked.

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Speaker 5: And we have our protocols where we've got somebody with

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Speaker 1: And what kind of boomstick do you carry for the

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Speaker 5: Great question, you know, I got a bunch. I mean,

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Speaker 1: So loaded to the t. I mean you said that

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Speaker 1: Have you ever drawn a gun ready to use lethal force?

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Speaker 5: Yeah? Lots. I mean if I'm in that close, I'm

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Speaker 1: Okay, now, if the polar bears aren't running around biting

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, it's pretty rare for them to bite people,

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Speaker 4: How often are you getting those calls in the middle

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Speaker 5: Yeah, the poor bar holding facility. Again, it's a world

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Speaker 5: lose that much weight. But anyways, they are an incredible

438
00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:14,400
Speaker 5: speedie and it's just amazing how they've adapted to live.

439
00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:17,880
Speaker 1: Here's a dumb question. How pissed are they when they're

440
00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:18,400
Speaker 1: locked up?

441
00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:25,080
Speaker 5: Oh so mad? Yeah, they like they'll pound those bars.

442
00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:27,879
Speaker 5: It's incredible their strength, Like they'll bow the bars, Like

443
00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:34,520
Speaker 5: those bars are just solid steel and concrete cylinder block cells.

444
00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:38,000
Speaker 5: So we've never had one escape other than we did

445
00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:42,080
Speaker 5: actually have a little cub escape one time, but it

446
00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:45,320
Speaker 5: got through the trough where we feed them or where

447
00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:48,960
Speaker 5: we give them water. Sorry, it's so part of me

448
00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:50,639
Speaker 5: that we don't feed them, but we give them water,

449
00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:52,600
Speaker 5: and they got through that trough. So now we've got

450
00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:55,080
Speaker 5: a special insert that goes in there so that the

451
00:24:55,080 --> 00:25:01,000
Speaker 5: little cubs can't squeeze through the trough. So yeah, and

452
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:05,320
Speaker 5: it's in a very powerful they hiss at. Yeah, they

453
00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:08,320
Speaker 5: they give you the side eye. They got a really

454
00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:13,919
Speaker 5: mean deep growl. There's a like it's pretty eerie sounding.

455
00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:17,480
Speaker 5: It's good and you can yeah, it's you can hear it.

456
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:20,719
Speaker 5: There's nothing else like it, Like, I've never experienced thing

457
00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:23,439
Speaker 5: else like that. But yeah, incredible.

458
00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:26,200
Speaker 1: What's the most bears you've ever had locked up at once?

459
00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:28,480
Speaker 1: You said you have twenty eight holding facilities. Do you

460
00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:32,000
Speaker 1: ever get to max capacity?

461
00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:36,120
Speaker 5: Yes, we have done that and back back in back

462
00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:38,920
Speaker 5: in the day when it first started in the nineteen eighties,

463
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:43,480
Speaker 5: they feel that that's those cells over and over again.

464
00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:48,440
Speaker 5: It was a rotating door, revolving door, Now I've put

465
00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:51,920
Speaker 5: twenty in a season, so a fraction of that. We're

466
00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:55,000
Speaker 5: not handling them as much anymore. And that's because we've

467
00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:57,479
Speaker 5: changed our tactics. We don't want to have to handle

468
00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:06,199
Speaker 5: them unless we absolutely have to. So, yeah, back in

469
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:08,480
Speaker 5: the eighties, they put a lot of bears through there.

470
00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:14,200
Speaker 5: Now in twenty twenty six, we're a little more selective

471
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:16,879
Speaker 5: on the bears we put in there. And on average,

472
00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:19,480
Speaker 5: i'd see we probably put twenty per year in there.

473
00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:21,760
Speaker 1: All right, So walk us through the process of what

474
00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:23,600
Speaker 1: happens when you go to let them go.

475
00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:29,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, so once we get all the data off them, weight,

476
00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:32,520
Speaker 5: their length, their girth, make sure we got their numbers,

477
00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:35,560
Speaker 5: what male female, are they pregnant, stuff like that. You

478
00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:37,720
Speaker 5: gotta watch, you gotta pay attention to stuff like that.

479
00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:42,080
Speaker 5: Then we're gonna we're gonna put them in a cargo

480
00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:45,880
Speaker 5: net and basically helicopter and sling them out to their

481
00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:50,399
Speaker 5: habitat to the north. We put them to the north

482
00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:55,119
Speaker 5: because these bears are naturally migrating from east to west

483
00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:57,879
Speaker 5: and then north again, so we want to follow their

484
00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:02,240
Speaker 5: natural migration. And essentially, yeah, we just throw we get

485
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:04,320
Speaker 5: them in the in the cargo nets and put them

486
00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:06,920
Speaker 5: in the in a remote area to the north, away

487
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:09,600
Speaker 5: from people. That's essentially all it is.

488
00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:12,679
Speaker 1: And if folks want to come visit Churchill, the polar

489
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:14,760
Speaker 1: bear capital of the world, what advice do you have

490
00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:18,920
Speaker 1: for them.

491
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:20,320
Speaker 5: Well, come check out the poor Bear Holding Facility because

492
00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:23,919
Speaker 5: there's no other place like it in the world. You

493
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:25,920
Speaker 5: might even be able to hear the loud growl if

494
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:27,639
Speaker 5: you put if you put your ear close to the

495
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:31,920
Speaker 5: door and listen, and and ask some questions about Poor

496
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:34,359
Speaker 5: Bear Alert program. Google it, check it out. Not a

497
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:37,639
Speaker 5: lot of people actually know about it, and it's it's

498
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:43,760
Speaker 5: a success story. It's protecting humans and protecting bears, and

499
00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:46,000
Speaker 5: and come to Churchill and just it's the poor bear

500
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:48,359
Speaker 5: capital of the world. There's no other place where you

501
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:53,960
Speaker 5: can easily access basically while they viewing areas where it's

502
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:56,679
Speaker 5: very likely you're going to see a poor bear. So

503
00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:01,360
Speaker 5: book through a guide, though a licensed guide is your

504
00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:04,880
Speaker 5: way to go. There are restrictions on how to view bears,

505
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:07,119
Speaker 5: and so the guides all know how to do that,

506
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:09,399
Speaker 5: and you don't because you don't want to get yourself

507
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:12,480
Speaker 5: in a bad situation. I've seen people five feet away

508
00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:14,240
Speaker 5: from these things. They think it's the zoo, and it's

509
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:19,520
Speaker 5: just it's so incredible how fast they can move, and

510
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:22,639
Speaker 5: people just sometimes don't realize they get caught in a

511
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:25,720
Speaker 5: moment like all this magnificent creature and yet they're only

512
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:27,760
Speaker 5: five to ten feet away from the thing. It's just

513
00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:31,960
Speaker 5: it's it's not ideal. But again, go through a guide

514
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:32,879
Speaker 5: and they'll keep you safe.

515
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:36,400
Speaker 1: So have you gotten any emergency calls while doing this interview?

516
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:41,520
Speaker 5: No? So Luckily right now those bears are out on

517
00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:43,440
Speaker 5: the sea ice and there they're going to be there

518
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:46,800
Speaker 5: till probably June July eight and ring seal that's their

519
00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:50,480
Speaker 5: primary diet, and so I get to rest right now.

520
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 1: Okay, good, good for you, Thanks for joining us, and

521
00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:54,560
Speaker 1: stay safe out there.

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00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:57,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, thanks guys, been a pleasure.

523
00:28:57,600 --> 00:28:59,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, like thanks, Ian.

524
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:02,840
Speaker 1: I noticed you boys perk up when he talked about

525
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:06,480
Speaker 1: what he carries for protection. Did anything surprise you about

526
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:07,720
Speaker 1: what he has on him?

527
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:09,040
Speaker 2: Oh? I mean shotgun.

528
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:11,600
Speaker 4: I feel like it's pretty run of the mill protection

529
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 4: weapon for bears, but the Daniel defense, Yeah, did that

530
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:17,800
Speaker 4: makes sense?

531
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 7: Yeah?

532
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:22,960
Speaker 3: I mean I'd assume they're just trying to put one

533
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:29,920
Speaker 3: in the central nervous system. So probably a bullet.

534
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:29,280
Speaker 1: Just be accurate.

535
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:35,120
Speaker 3: Bullet. We get Randall a pack of smokes from Steve.

536
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 1: Popular Middle school brought gifts to the met Beater office.

537
00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:42,200
Speaker 1: One of them was tobacco.

538
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 3: It's a traditional it's a traditional gifting. Uh, you know,

539
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:48,920
Speaker 3: culture of gifting, and so tobacco is one of the

540
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:54,480
Speaker 3: gifts and gifted he just gifted me a hard pack

541
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:56,920
Speaker 3: of Marlborough Smooth Originals.

542
00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:58,000
Speaker 1: I thought Steve said.

543
00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:02,680
Speaker 3: There were yeah, gold, it's a gold pack, but these,

544
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 3: I mean, don't don't do that. Don't smoke cigarettes.

545
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:09,560
Speaker 1: We could bust him out when baby Radio was born.

546
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:13,080
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, that's how we will celebrate.

547
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:18,120
Speaker 3: Yeah. I love that guy.

548
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:22,360
Speaker 6: That was one of the best incers, throwing heat all

549
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:25,280
Speaker 6: the way to the end with his guest recruitment and

550
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:29,000
Speaker 6: uh yeah, man, we're probably the only Americans that guy's

551
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 6: going to talk to for the next year that won't

552
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:32,400
Speaker 6: mention the hockey gain.

553
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, don't worry that that the chat has been on it.

554
00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:37,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, so hopefully he doesn't look back and feel bad

555
00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:40,440
Speaker 1: about that silver medal because the chat was really poking him.

556
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:44,120
Speaker 3: Man, that guy was great. That was a great spencer.

557
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 2: That that just who would have thought bear prison, Bear

558
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:49,400
Speaker 2: prison for thirty days.

559
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:51,840
Speaker 3: I want to go twenty reoffenders.

560
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:53,800
Speaker 1: They've been doing this since the eighties, so that's that's

561
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:57,160
Speaker 1: pretty incredible. It's like that successful at keeping these bears

562
00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 1: out of the way of humans.

563
00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:02,000
Speaker 2: That was great. Gosh all right.

564
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 1: Our next segment is Hot tip Off.

565
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 3: That's saltyt that's salty.

566
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 1: Hot tip Off is where two listeners go head to

567
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:24,920
Speaker 1: head with competing pieces of advice and after we hear

568
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 1: each tip, we'll declare which one is hotter. This week

569
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:32,239
Speaker 1: it's Dalton Bicard versus Marshall Loftis, and they're competing for

570
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:35,280
Speaker 1: a one hundred dollars Meat Eater store gift card. Take

571
00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:38,720
Speaker 1: it away, Phil Marshall Loftis.

572
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:45,480
Speaker 7: Hey guys, Marshall here and I have an extremely simple

573
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:50,239
Speaker 7: tip for finding your arrows. I know most of your

574
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 7: listeners probably don't actually ever miss, but I do, so

575
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:55,400
Speaker 7: I had to come up with a creative solution. Number one,

576
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:59,280
Speaker 7: I use i viz wrap some veins. Nothing new there.

577
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 7: But number two, I utilize a uv Or black light flashlight.

578
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 7: These are like ten fifteen bucks on Amazon, So you know,

579
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 7: anytime you shoot, don't know where your arrow goes, it

580
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 7: goes into something like this.

581
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 2: This is kind of standard. What you see.

582
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:15,720
Speaker 1: Here's one of my arrows.

583
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:18,240
Speaker 7: You know, it gets buried in the grass, it gets

584
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:21,920
Speaker 7: buried in the leaves. It's very difficult to find. But

585
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:26,080
Speaker 7: I actually utilize this to find the arrows in the dark.

586
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 7: So I'm back at that same area, but in the

587
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 7: dark here obviously, I have my black.

588
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 3: Light obviously, and I'm gonna walk up to.

589
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 7: That general area of where the arrow is.

590
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:41,480
Speaker 4: And we'll see if it'll show up on here.

591
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:42,720
Speaker 5: Boom, there you.

592
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:43,320
Speaker 2: Can see it.

593
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:47,160
Speaker 3: Oh, it's wild, looks like a paid light out there

594
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:47,960
Speaker 3: in the dark.

595
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:53,720
Speaker 7: This makes finding your arrows a thousand times easier and

596
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:55,840
Speaker 7: it saves you a lot of money on having to

597
00:32:55,840 --> 00:33:01,480
Speaker 7: buy new arrows.

598
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:07,400
Speaker 8: At Hello, meat eater, I got a hot tip here

599
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 8: for you, and a great project to do if you

600
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 8: with your kids, if you've got them. This is my

601
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:14,800
Speaker 8: homemade jaw jacker, as my buddy likes to call it

602
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 8: the ghetto jacker. I just built this at a inch

603
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:21,719
Speaker 8: and a half TVC pipe. You could build it with

604
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 8: a block of wood and a pipe angled in the

605
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:27,480
Speaker 8: back of it to hold the rod. The main thing

606
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:30,520
Speaker 8: is this trigger mechanism which you just got to do

607
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:34,000
Speaker 8: a hook and I built this out of a paint

608
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 8: can handle. You could use the coat hanger or whatever

609
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:41,040
Speaker 8: you've really got laying around. I use a zip tie

610
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:43,960
Speaker 8: here to connect it to the rod. Ran it through

611
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:48,960
Speaker 8: an islet and you just run your line up through

612
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 8: the hook end of it. My fish grabs. It works

613
00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:59,840
Speaker 8: pretty good, sets up nice. Can fit a couple of

614
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 8: in a bucket. I keep these feet where they can

615
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 8: just come off, so you can put a couple in

616
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 8: a bucket. And Shirley beats the sixty dollars price tag.

617
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:14,880
Speaker 1: All right, those are our two hot tips. The chat

618
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 1: is going to decide who the winner is of the

619
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 1: one hundred dollars Meat Eater store gift card. Phil is

620
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:22,480
Speaker 1: going to give you a couple of minutes to vote.

621
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 1: All right, Seth, which one do you like? Dalton's hot

622
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:30,719
Speaker 1: tip about the PVC jaw jacker or Marshals of the

623
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 1: UV light aerowfinder.

624
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:33,920
Speaker 2: Well, I don't know who pixies.

625
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:36,120
Speaker 4: I don't want to call anyone out, but the the

626
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:38,520
Speaker 4: era one has been has been done before.

627
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:41,719
Speaker 2: On this show, on this show. Oh no, Well, I

628
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:43,920
Speaker 2: just got a better memory than me because I have

629
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:45,319
Speaker 2: no recollect I did not know.

630
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:47,719
Speaker 3: Sorry, you began that by saying you don't mean to

631
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:50,440
Speaker 3: call anybody out.

632
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:52,759
Speaker 2: No, okay, okay, which one do you like better? Was

633
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 2: that felt? Was that you phil? No? No, okay, sorry,

634
00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:58,400
Speaker 2: I don't mean, but I should have.

635
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 3: Let's just go to the.

636
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 4: Ice fishing one for me. The homemade jawjacker. Jawn jackers

637
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 4: aren't are not. They're not cheap.

638
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:10,120
Speaker 1: Sixty dollars he said.

639
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:12,959
Speaker 4: Yeah, so the homemade stuff is fantastic. And I didn't

640
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 4: mention the or I did mention. I didn't notice he

641
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:18,879
Speaker 4: had Buddy Ja Siemens in the background on the television.

642
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 1: I wondered if it was, but I couldn't identify just

643
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:23,960
Speaker 1: from that quick shot. But Seth has his ice fishing

644
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:24,400
Speaker 1: eyes on.

645
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, you knew it was Jay. I like that one,

646
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:26,920
Speaker 2: all right.

647
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:29,960
Speaker 1: Seth is voting for the PVC jaw jacker Randall. What

648
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:33,120
Speaker 1: do you think the UV light arrow finder from Marshall

649
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:34,760
Speaker 1: or the jaw jacker from Dalton?

650
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:38,799
Speaker 3: I mean to be these two tips, embody. Some of

651
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:44,040
Speaker 3: the finest traditions of tipping one is just getting some

652
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 3: device that's useful for one thing and applying it to another.

653
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:50,759
Speaker 3: As we remember from the air compressor blowing out the

654
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:55,840
Speaker 3: brains of the deer skull, and the other is just

655
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:58,759
Speaker 3: going to Ace hardware and buying a bunch of shit

656
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:05,000
Speaker 3: and building your own like little device. So I appreciate

657
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 3: both of them in different ways. But man, I do

658
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 3: like that that homemade. I mean anytime you can just

659
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:14,400
Speaker 3: make a mess of PVC. I was a big potato

660
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 3: cannon kid. We made a battery gun one time that

661
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:20,880
Speaker 3: just shot double A batteries and we were punching holes

662
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:21,719
Speaker 3: in plywood with it.

663
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:23,719
Speaker 1: Oh okay, we moved on.

664
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Speaker 3: From the hair spray to dry ice and water.

665
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:28,880
Speaker 1: We should do that for a meat eater video. I

666
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:31,319
Speaker 1: don't know how it applies to what this company does,

667
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 1: but yeah, Randall making a potato cannon.

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Speaker 3: The nice thing about the hairspray, though, is if you

669
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:40,239
Speaker 3: want to launch an indiary round of some sort, you

670
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 3: know you have that ignition source from the hair spray.

671
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Speaker 3: But yeah, I'm going to vote for the jaw jacker.

672
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:46,960
Speaker 1: Okay, that's two votes for the job.

673
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:48,360
Speaker 3: That was a long winded answer.

674
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:48,800
Speaker 5: Sorry.

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00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:51,880
Speaker 1: Yeah. Both of these again, like mini hot tips, it's

676
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:54,440
Speaker 1: about how to save some money. One is you're going

677
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:56,319
Speaker 1: to recover more errors than the other is. You don't

678
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 1: have to buy a sixty dollars jaw jacks. Yes, I'm

679
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Speaker 1: going to vote. Vote for the u v light arrowfinder.

680
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:04,960
Speaker 1: You should go watch this video on our podcast YouTube

681
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:09,279
Speaker 1: channel because that thing lit up like somebody turned on

682
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 1: a light switch on the back of that arrow is

683
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:13,839
Speaker 1: so easy to find. Here's the other thing. I love

684
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Speaker 1: having a UV light with me when I go camping.

685
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:19,759
Speaker 1: There's like, I don't know, probably twenty things that just

686
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 1: stay in my camping kit that no matter what kind

687
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:24,880
Speaker 1: of camping I'm doing, they're coming with me. One of

688
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 1: them is a UV light that I look for UV

689
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:32,640
Speaker 1: I look for rocks that show up under UV light.

690
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 1: So if you've got that with you turn that on

691
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 1: at night, you can recover some very cool rocks. You'll

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00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 1: find other uses for that UV light. It's only like

693
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:43,360
Speaker 1: fifteen bucks from Amazon besides just recovering arrows.

694
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:46,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's making me think I should attach arrow fletchings

695
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:48,799
Speaker 3: to my car keys and my earbuds.

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00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 1: That'd be good. Phil. What does the chat think.

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00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:54,880
Speaker 2: It's been a pretty decisive lead this entire time, So

698
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:56,759
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go ahead and end the poll and with

699
00:37:56,800 --> 00:38:03,319
Speaker 2: sixty four percent of the vote. Winner is Marshall with

700
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 2: the black lie.

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00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:07,399
Speaker 4: Oh all right, Oh he didn't win the last time,

702
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 4: so he won this time.

703
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:11,239
Speaker 3: That's a real dark horse, get it.

704
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:13,960
Speaker 1: Marshall did one, Randall, he gets a one hundred dollars

705
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:16,400
Speaker 1: media to gift card next week for the finale. We

706
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:19,040
Speaker 1: are just going to empty the clip for all of

707
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:20,799
Speaker 1: the hot tips that we have left.

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00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 3: Indeed, indeed, all.

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00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:24,400
Speaker 1: Right, let's take a break for some listener feedback. Phil,

710
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 1: what's the chat apt to say?

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00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:28,320
Speaker 2: Let's see here, this is from Nate, He says, Randall,

712
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 2: are you going turkey hunting this spring? Or was last

713
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 2: year a one and done and you're back to bears forever?

714
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 3: No, I'd like to I enjoy eating wild turkeys, so

715
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:42,360
Speaker 3: I'd like to shoot another turkey or two. It's just

716
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:44,279
Speaker 3: a just a question of getting on someone's dance card.

717
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:49,320
Speaker 3: Max Barta is a busy guy, busy guy in the spring.

718
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:52,359
Speaker 3: I was talking to col last night and we were

719
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:57,239
Speaker 3: discussing a little turkey family camp. Family turkey camp, I

720
00:38:57,239 --> 00:39:01,560
Speaker 3: should say, so that that's in the cards as well.

721
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 3: But definitely going to go ahead and look for some bruins.

722
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 3: I already have one of those trips on my calendar.

723
00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:10,719
Speaker 2: The question for Seth from Coda, what's your go to

724
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:13,920
Speaker 2: razor for a clean shade? I too have a mustache,

725
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 2: but find it hard to keep up with a clean cut.

726
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:17,520
Speaker 2: Like you razors give me razor burn on my neck

727
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 2: and jawline.

728
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 3: Well, you need the jawline first. That's my problem with

729
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:23,960
Speaker 3: with trimming facial hairs. I don't have anything like what

730
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:24,799
Speaker 3: Seth has there.

731
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:30,720
Speaker 4: I the ones I buy from the store are often different.

732
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:35,400
Speaker 4: I look at price more than Yeah, I look at

733
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:38,920
Speaker 4: price more than the actual razor itself. A few blades

734
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:42,759
Speaker 4: is good, although I recently was given one of those

735
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:47,360
Speaker 4: proof raisors. It's made in Belgrade. It's like a machined

736
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 4: all machined aluminum razor, has that one blade replaceable.

737
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 2: It's it works great.

738
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like it's like a razor that you'll just

739
00:39:58,640 --> 00:39:59,880
Speaker 4: have for the rest of your life.

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00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 3: Okay, So, and then an aftershave or something like that. Now,

741
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:05,399
Speaker 3: as long as we're leaning into this.

742
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 2: No, I don't use an aftershave.

743
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:10,400
Speaker 4: I use the shaving cream I use is like a

744
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 4: they call it like a It's it's like one of

745
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:14,120
Speaker 4: those healthy kinds.

746
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:17,880
Speaker 1: It's not edge best kept mustache in the company. What

747
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:18,680
Speaker 1: else you got? Phil?

748
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:23,480
Speaker 2: Question for King Randamal himself, if he only had to

749
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 2: choose one of the rest of his life, would it

750
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:26,040
Speaker 2: be dogs or brots?

751
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:27,160
Speaker 1: Oh?

752
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 3: I think I know, man, it's probably dogs.

753
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:33,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, Just what's.

754
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:38,200
Speaker 3: Just for the emotional factor. I just don't give the

755
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:41,319
Speaker 3: same feelings for eating abroad at a ball game. But

756
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:44,120
Speaker 3: I do find brots. I find myself cooking brots more

757
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:48,080
Speaker 3: at home, and I feel like it's a more versatile

758
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:52,880
Speaker 3: tube meat. But yeah, I can't make a cheese coney

759
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:53,440
Speaker 3: with a brod.

760
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:55,560
Speaker 1: Phil. Let's do a couple more and then after that.

761
00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:57,759
Speaker 1: I think we put movie Club at the end of

762
00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 1: the show because our next guest is eating. So we'll

763
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:01,239
Speaker 1: do that last year.

764
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:01,960
Speaker 3: It's a great idea.

765
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 2: Who knows how long that'll take. Any of the crew

766
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 2: from from Valancourt Hopeful for a sheep or goat tag

767
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 2: this year? Do you guys put in for yes?

768
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:10,719
Speaker 3: Every year?

769
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:11,239
Speaker 4: Ye?

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00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:15,320
Speaker 1: Not hopeful though hopeful in putting in her two different things.

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00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I'll I probably will have a sheep tag,

772
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 3: just an unlimited sheep tag.

773
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:22,719
Speaker 1: Oh.

774
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:24,600
Speaker 2: Oh, they changing that this year?

775
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 3: I saw, Yeah, I just whatever.

776
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:30,719
Speaker 1: Okay, Randall's going to be the sheep hunter.

777
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:34,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, we'll see. We'll see my calendar's lining so

778
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:35,719
Speaker 3: that I might be able to get out there for

779
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 3: the unit that I want to get out there.

780
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:39,759
Speaker 2: Let's see one more, Phil, Sure, I'm going to be

781
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:42,080
Speaker 2: selfish with this one. Phil, how's cast and chill treating you?

782
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:44,400
Speaker 2: That was that low five fishing game that I've been

783
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:44,879
Speaker 2: talking about.

784
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:45,400
Speaker 1: I have it.

785
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:47,799
Speaker 2: So I just got myself a better monitor for my

786
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:51,920
Speaker 2: the room where I stream and I stream. But tomorrow,

787
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 2: tomorrow is a big day because there Nintendo is in

788
00:41:56,680 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 2: game Freak are releasing Pokemon fire Red Leaf creen for

789
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:02,440
Speaker 2: the Nintendo Switch. I'll been picking that up. But more

790
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:06,719
Speaker 2: importantly for my streaming purposes, Resident Evil nine comes out tomorrow.

791
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:09,440
Speaker 2: I'm a big fat baby, and so I'm thinking about

792
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:12,720
Speaker 2: and here's the scariest one so far. I'm thinking about

793
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:16,120
Speaker 2: streaming it. If you guys want to watch that, I.

794
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 3: Do so gun taking a sick day too.

795
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Speaker 2: When did the original Resident Evil come out? Oh like

796
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:24,439
Speaker 2: nineteen ninety eight or something. Did you play that one? No?

797
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 2: I didn't. I've only been starting. I've been dipping my

798
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:29,319
Speaker 2: toe into horror stuff over the last couple of years.

799
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Speaker 2: But I've over the last year, I've played Resident Evil two, four, seven,

800
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:36,920
Speaker 2: and I'm almost done with eight, and I've been really

801
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:39,440
Speaker 2: enjoying them. The writing is is god awful. The plot

802
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:42,439
Speaker 2: makes no sense, but that's kind of part of the charm.

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00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:44,719
Speaker 3: So you don't like the films, then I assume.

804
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:47,560
Speaker 2: The films are are the films are bad? Like It's

805
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:49,400
Speaker 2: like if you took the dialogue and plot from the

806
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:51,560
Speaker 2: Games where it's kind of camping and fun, and you

807
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 2: put it into a movie format, it just it doesn't translate.

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00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:55,680
Speaker 1: So how do I tune into this? Phil taylored Life.

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00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 2: Oh, oh god, that's a great that's a great question.

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00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:01,200
Speaker 2: I'll put I don't think this is self promotion because

811
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:02,520
Speaker 2: I make no money off of this. In fact, I

812
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:04,839
Speaker 2: think I lose money with the equipment that I've bought.

813
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:07,680
Speaker 2: But I'll put my I'll put my YouTube handle up

814
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:12,319
Speaker 2: here because it's stupid and nonsensical. I'll spill it out here.

815
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:13,920
Speaker 2: This is a good program.

816
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:17,319
Speaker 1: Maybe Phil will tell us on his Instagram story how

817
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:17,959
Speaker 1: we can watch.

818
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:20,399
Speaker 2: So that's my YouTube handle and my Twitch handle Phil

819
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Speaker 2: a Buster Sword Phil. It's my name Philip Buster with

820
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:25,600
Speaker 2: a pH, because that's what people call me in high school.

821
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Speaker 2: Buster Sword, as we all know, is the iconic sword

822
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:32,480
Speaker 2: that Cloud Strife wields in Final Fantasy seven. So it's

823
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:34,120
Speaker 2: a portmanteau of kinds.

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00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 3: I'm sure our next guest head is spinning good. Still,

825
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 3: we've gone from shaving products to golden sheep tags to

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Speaker 3: phil buster sor.

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Speaker 2: So you were doing that this Friday or Saturday, so

828
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:48,239
Speaker 2: tune in for you can watch me Pema pants. You

829
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:49,319
Speaker 2: never know what you'll get here.

830
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:53,799
Speaker 1: Yep, let's go to our last interview. Joining us on

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Speaker 1: the line next is Amelia Delbero, who won the gold

832
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Speaker 1: medal at the twenty twenty five cheese Monger Olympics. She's

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00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:05,280
Speaker 1: here to educate us on pairing cheeses with wild game. Amelia,

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Speaker 1: welcome to the show.

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Speaker 9: Hey, thanks so much for having me on the show.

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Speaker 9: Super stoked to be here in chat Cheese great.

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Speaker 1: First thing, what are the Cheesemonger Olympics.

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00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:20,279
Speaker 9: I'm happy to explain. So the Mondel de Fromage, which

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Speaker 9: is the Cheesemonger Olympics. It happens every two years in

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Speaker 9: France and champion cheesemongers from all over the world compete

841
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Speaker 9: against each other in this like grueling eight hour day

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00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:34,279
Speaker 9: of cheesemonger challenges with the goal of being crowned the

843
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 9: world's best cheesemonger for that year. So the challenges span

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Speaker 9: everything from general knowledge written tests to blind tasting pairing challenges.

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Speaker 9: Cheese sculpture, a one square meter themed, absolutely massive cheese

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Speaker 9: display made with like one hundred mystery cheeses that they

847
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:55,359
Speaker 9: just put down in crates behind you. So it was

848
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Speaker 9: obviously very difficult, but it is also as much about

849
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Speaker 9: like stamina and time management as it was about cheese

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00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:04,520
Speaker 9: knowledge and longer skill and technique.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I want to be there. What's the most difficult

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Speaker 1: part of the competition?

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Speaker 9: I would say that all of the challenges that were

854
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:18,400
Speaker 9: equally difficult in terms of execution and preparation. But for

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00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:22,480
Speaker 9: me personally, truthfully, the hardest part of the entire experience

856
00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 9: was just finding the guts to show up. I have

857
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 9: like crazy imposter syndrome, so I actually did a lot

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Speaker 9: of work with my therapist in the months leading up

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00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:33,799
Speaker 9: to the competition, so I helped manage that so that

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Speaker 9: I could like show up, be fully present and just

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00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:40,160
Speaker 9: do my best. And I actually think that aspect of

862
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:42,839
Speaker 9: the preparation is super important to talk about openly because

863
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:44,319
Speaker 9: I know a lot of people struggle with this.

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Speaker 1: And then you went there and won the gold medal.

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Speaker 1: Congratulations for that. Tell us about your background? How does

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Speaker 1: one become such an accomplished cheese monger.

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Speaker 9: So I actually have a degree in Italian. I went

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Speaker 9: to college for Italian studies, and after that I was

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00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:07,320
Speaker 9: working a kind of a corporate job just managing a

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00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:09,480
Speaker 9: cooking school. It was a cooking school and educational space,

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00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:11,440
Speaker 9: so I was seeing a lot of these classes and

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00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:15,440
Speaker 9: events that were happening, everything from like obviously cheese tastings

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Speaker 9: to butchering demonstrations to pizza making, pasta making dinners, things

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Speaker 9: like that. So there's a lot of really cool stuff

875
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:24,719
Speaker 9: that I was experiencing for the first time. And then

876
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:28,160
Speaker 9: after a couple of years of managing that particular space,

877
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:30,520
Speaker 9: I decided I wanted to kind of make a switch

878
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:33,880
Speaker 9: and learn a craft. Hope, like probably one of the

879
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:36,960
Speaker 9: things that I had witnessed in the school. And I

880
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:38,960
Speaker 9: also had a little bit of a like a run

881
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:42,319
Speaker 9: in let's call it with an animal rights group and

882
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:45,719
Speaker 9: that kind of changed the trajectory of my career. So

883
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 9: I decided I really wanted to learn butchery. That's what

884
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:49,919
Speaker 9: I was going to focus on. But at the time

885
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:51,479
Speaker 9: I was like a little twenty three year old girl

886
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:54,400
Speaker 9: with no knife skills, So nobody was going to hire

887
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:57,440
Speaker 9: me for a butcher job, obviously, so I was advised

888
00:46:57,560 --> 00:46:59,279
Speaker 9: to take a job at a cheese counter for a

889
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:01,719
Speaker 9: few months, learn how to handle knives, and then try

890
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:05,640
Speaker 9: to make that transfer. Obviously, I ended up loving cheese

891
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:09,760
Speaker 9: so much that it won and I pursued the career

892
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:13,640
Speaker 9: in cheese quite successfully. I might add, but I did

893
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:16,000
Speaker 9: actually stay at the counter part time while I was

894
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:20,960
Speaker 9: doing a butcher apprenticeship for a while. It ended up

895
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 9: being a really fun combination because I was managing a

896
00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:27,279
Speaker 9: cheese counter in Brooklyn during the pandemic and there was

897
00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:31,080
Speaker 9: a nose to tail butcher in the same grocery store.

898
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:33,400
Speaker 9: So during the pandemic, I was able to kind of

899
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 9: like pop over there when they needed some help and

900
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:38,560
Speaker 9: like make sausages, trim pork chops, that kind of thing.

901
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:41,600
Speaker 9: So since then I have been the cheese manager and

902
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:44,759
Speaker 9: buyer of that grocery store. I'm currently the sales and

903
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:48,520
Speaker 9: marketing manager for Formaticum. We are the country's premier importer

904
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:52,840
Speaker 9: of cheese, paper, packaging tools, all the professional quality items

905
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:55,319
Speaker 9: that you need to run a cheese department. And that

906
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:57,000
Speaker 9: is a really cool role that allows me to do

907
00:47:57,040 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 9: a lot of travel and educate both cheesemongers and consumers

908
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:04,080
Speaker 9: alike about how to properly take care of cheese and

909
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:07,720
Speaker 9: taste cheese and just you know, sharing the love and

910
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:10,040
Speaker 9: encouraging enthusiasm for cheese.

911
00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:13,640
Speaker 1: Okay, you were the first American to win gold at

912
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:17,600
Speaker 1: the Cheesemonger Olympics. Congrats for that. There were fourteen countries

913
00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:21,239
Speaker 1: represented at last year's competition. What kind of reputation does

914
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:24,920
Speaker 1: America have when it comes to cheeses and cheesemongers?

915
00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:30,080
Speaker 9: So obviously the United States does not have a great

916
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:33,759
Speaker 9: reputation globally when it comes to cheese, and like all

917
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:34,960
Speaker 9: other food and.

918
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:37,040
Speaker 3: Some American cheese.

919
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:40,919
Speaker 9: I actually I'm going to talk about that, but some

920
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:44,239
Speaker 9: of that is completely justified. But we actually do have

921
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:48,840
Speaker 9: a pretty thriving cheese culture here pun intended. There is

922
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:52,880
Speaker 9: a lot of misconception about the term American cheese and

923
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:55,440
Speaker 9: what that means. And when you say that, most people

924
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:58,560
Speaker 9: think of the like plastic eat orange slices, which totally

925
00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:01,399
Speaker 9: do have their time and place. But when I think

926
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:03,839
Speaker 9: of American cheese, I think about all of the amazing

927
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:06,920
Speaker 9: cheese producers that we have all across the country, in

928
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:11,120
Speaker 9: every state, who are making absolutely incredible cheese every single day.

929
00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:16,080
Speaker 9: They're winning awards, they are focusing on regenerative agriculture, They're

930
00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:18,719
Speaker 9: giving back to their communities, and I like to say,

931
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:21,879
Speaker 9: good American cheese is everywhere for those with eyes to see.

932
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:25,160
Speaker 9: So being able to show up at this competition and

933
00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:30,400
Speaker 9: represent the United States in my own way, and to

934
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:32,440
Speaker 9: be able to prove on the world stage that American

935
00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:37,040
Speaker 9: cheese mongers are skilled and talented and creative was just amazing.

936
00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:39,840
Speaker 9: And especially to be surrounded by so many other wonderfully

937
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:43,520
Speaker 9: talented cheesemongers, just being inspired by them and being able

938
00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:45,920
Speaker 9: to learn from them. We left France with a lot

939
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:47,239
Speaker 9: of new friends. I am happy to.

940
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:50,400
Speaker 1: Say that's great. Our audience eats a lot of wild games,

941
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:53,160
Speaker 1: so we want your advice on how to pair cheeses

942
00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:56,279
Speaker 1: with different wild food. Let's start with medison. Please give

943
00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:59,360
Speaker 1: us some recommendations on what cheese is pair well with

944
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:00,680
Speaker 1: dear meat.

945
00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:04,800
Speaker 9: First of all, I love venison, but with these types

946
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:08,560
Speaker 9: of unconventional pairings, let's say, instead of focusing on like

947
00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:12,000
Speaker 9: the pairing exclusively, I try to think about, like who

948
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:14,560
Speaker 9: would be eating these things and how they would be prepared,

949
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:17,000
Speaker 9: and like what those people might have access to. So

950
00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:20,279
Speaker 9: in the cheese industry we have this this saying that's

951
00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:23,640
Speaker 9: what grows together goes together, and that basically means that

952
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:26,560
Speaker 9: products from the same region will likely be a good pairing.

953
00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:33,040
Speaker 9: So for venison, I'm thinking like like braised venison, roasted meat, stew,

954
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:35,360
Speaker 9: ragou things that would likely be found in like a

955
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:39,239
Speaker 9: mountain region like the Alps of Italy or Switzerland, things

956
00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:42,480
Speaker 9: like that. So that automatically takes me over to like

957
00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:47,720
Speaker 9: a funky oniony mountain cheese like griere or fontina, something

958
00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:50,600
Speaker 9: that really melts well. But on the other side of things,

959
00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:54,320
Speaker 9: specifically smoky Blue, which is a really cool blue cheese

960
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:57,520
Speaker 9: made by Rogue Creamery in Oregon, I think would pair really.

961
00:50:57,400 --> 00:50:57,839
Speaker 3: Well with that.

962
00:50:58,160 --> 00:51:01,360
Speaker 1: Okay, Randall is shaking his head and what about phil

963
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:04,000
Speaker 1: hogsh I love this question.

964
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:06,800
Speaker 9: I got so excited. I immediately was like This reminds

965
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:10,000
Speaker 9: me of Chinialle, which is Italian wild boar ragu from

966
00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:12,879
Speaker 9: Tuscany specifically makes me want to do a little bit

967
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:16,120
Speaker 9: of like grated parmigiano reggiano on top, give it a

968
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:19,840
Speaker 9: little bit of a salt, kick, a little umami, or

969
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:21,880
Speaker 9: specifically a Tuscan peccorino.

970
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:25,360
Speaker 1: Okay, how about small game like squirrels and rabbits.

971
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:28,759
Speaker 9: I'm gonna be really honest. I didn't know that you

972
00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:33,200
Speaker 9: could eat squirrel, but rabbit is one of my grandfather's

973
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:36,360
Speaker 9: favorite foods. I have this like distinct memory of special

974
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:38,480
Speaker 9: ordering a whole rabbit to bring to their house and

975
00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:41,360
Speaker 9: cook for him. So we did that. We did a

976
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:45,319
Speaker 9: rabbit ragu with some tomatoes and fresh handmade pasta. So

977
00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:47,560
Speaker 9: I'm gonna go with peccorino romano for this one because

978
00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:50,080
Speaker 9: that's what my grandparents always have in their fridge for

979
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:51,280
Speaker 9: putting on top of pasta.

980
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:54,919
Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about cheese pairings with fish. Let's

981
00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:57,640
Speaker 1: start with fish that have a white flesh, like walleye

982
00:51:57,719 --> 00:52:02,560
Speaker 1: or perch or crappie. What cheese is pair well with them?

983
00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:06,040
Speaker 9: Cheese and fish is a hot topic. A lot of

984
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:09,640
Speaker 9: people think that like, eating cheese with fish is kind

985
00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:12,200
Speaker 9: of sacrilege, but I think that there's definitely a right

986
00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:15,800
Speaker 9: way to do it. I'm gonna say peccorino romano again,

987
00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:17,520
Speaker 9: that is just kind of a go to when it

988
00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:20,960
Speaker 9: comes to fish that it has this really beautiful like brininess,

989
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:24,400
Speaker 9: the saltiness that goes well with a lot of fish dishes.

990
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:28,439
Speaker 1: How about fish that that have some color in their meat,

991
00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:29,600
Speaker 1: like a trout or salmon.

992
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:36,880
Speaker 9: HM. For this, I'm thinking like smoked trout, smoked salmon.

993
00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:42,719
Speaker 9: I'm gonna go peccorino fiore sardo, which is specifically a

994
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:47,520
Speaker 9: smoked pecorino. It's a little bit drier. I think that

995
00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:49,520
Speaker 9: that might be nice with a more oily fish.

996
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:52,520
Speaker 1: Okay, final one, what cheese is paar well with wild

997
00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:55,120
Speaker 1: mushrooms like morales, Chantrell's and bullettes.

998
00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:59,719
Speaker 9: Yum, Immediately, Oumammy, I want to go for a new

999
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:02,560
Speaker 9: mommy bomb here. One of my favorite dishes to make

1000
00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:05,600
Speaker 9: is a mushroom risotto with some melted to ledgio. To

1001
00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:09,760
Speaker 9: Ledgio is a kind of stinky washtrine cheese from northern Italy.

1002
00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:12,320
Speaker 9: I think that that pairs really well with those mushrooms.

1003
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:15,399
Speaker 9: But also if we're like, you know, on the Umami train.

1004
00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:18,520
Speaker 9: We can do something with truffle, and I know that

1005
00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:22,040
Speaker 9: truffled to ledgio is a thing that exists, So if

1006
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:24,239
Speaker 9: you can find it, I think that that would be wonderful.

1007
00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:28,480
Speaker 1: Last question, I assume that boutique grocers and markets are

1008
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:31,680
Speaker 1: the best place is defined a really good selection of cheeses,

1009
00:53:31,719 --> 00:53:34,200
Speaker 1: But what about the chain options when it comes to

1010
00:53:34,239 --> 00:53:38,160
Speaker 1: places like Costco, Whole Foods, Trader Joe's, Kroger's, Elberton's. Who

1011
00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:39,360
Speaker 1: has the best cheeses?

1012
00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:44,040
Speaker 9: That's a good question. I get that a lot, so

1013
00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:47,040
Speaker 9: of course, like a dedicated cheese shop or a special

1014
00:53:47,080 --> 00:53:50,400
Speaker 9: che cheese counter is my first recommendation, but I know

1015
00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:54,160
Speaker 9: that not everyone has the access physically or financially to

1016
00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:59,080
Speaker 9: you know, frequent those places, and like, while my job

1017
00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:03,840
Speaker 9: is partially to promote these high quality cheeses, it's also

1018
00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:06,480
Speaker 9: part of my job to just encourage people to eat

1019
00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:09,759
Speaker 9: cheese in general. So whatever cheese is that you choose

1020
00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:12,239
Speaker 9: to enjoy, no matter where they come from, I'm just

1021
00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:14,759
Speaker 9: happy that you're eating it, because what I like to

1022
00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:17,520
Speaker 9: say is that cheese is for everyone, and everyone deserves

1023
00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:20,880
Speaker 9: to enjoy it. I can't personally speak to the selection

1024
00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:24,400
Speaker 9: of cheese and everyone's local grocery store, but I can

1025
00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:28,400
Speaker 9: encourage you to branch out, try something new, and just

1026
00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:33,239
Speaker 9: most importantly keep cheese on your table physically and metaphorically.

1027
00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:36,719
Speaker 1: Okay, and our chat has two things that they want

1028
00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:39,920
Speaker 1: your take on. One is cheese curds and the other

1029
00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:42,440
Speaker 1: is Valveda. Please tell us what you think of cheese

1030
00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:43,759
Speaker 1: curds and Velveta.

1031
00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:47,319
Speaker 9: I love them. I love both of those things. I

1032
00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:49,879
Speaker 9: love a fried cheese curd. I love a fresh cheese curd,

1033
00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:54,319
Speaker 9: very squeaky. I love a flavored cheese curd. Valveda, i

1034
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:56,880
Speaker 9: am told, is like one of the best cheeses to

1035
00:54:56,920 --> 00:55:00,000
Speaker 9: make macaroni and cheese with. I personally, I didn't grow

1036
00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:03,040
Speaker 9: up with it. I am a Cooper Sharp girly. I

1037
00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:06,560
Speaker 9: live in Philly. Absolutely love Cooper Sharp. But my my

1038
00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:10,560
Speaker 9: partner loves Belvida. So a lot of those cheeses are

1039
00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:16,600
Speaker 9: like chemically designed to melt beautifully. They're they're specifically meant

1040
00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:19,160
Speaker 9: for that, and that's what they do. So that's why

1041
00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:20,880
Speaker 9: I like. That's why I say that they have a

1042
00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:23,799
Speaker 9: place and a time. And I would say that mac

1043
00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:25,359
Speaker 9: and cheese is the place and time for that.

1044
00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:28,279
Speaker 1: So okay, thanks for your time and wisdom, Amelia, and

1045
00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:35,799
Speaker 1: congrats again on winning gold at the Cheese Olympics Flash gold.

1046
00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:38,520
Speaker 5: Great.

1047
00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:41,440
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for having me.

1048
00:55:42,560 --> 00:55:42,799
Speaker 5: Wow.

1049
00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:46,560
Speaker 1: Seth was nodding his head about the velveta and mac

1050
00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:47,040
Speaker 1: and cheese.

1051
00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:51,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, it does make a good cheese for mac and cheese.

1052
00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:54,239
Speaker 4: I haven't had velveta though in long time.

1053
00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:57,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think of childhood. Yeah, I heard a lot

1054
00:55:57,640 --> 00:55:59,440
Speaker 1: of names and cheeses am not familiar with. I need

1055
00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:00,480
Speaker 1: to go back and listen to this.

1056
00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:02,960
Speaker 2: We had Boondog in the chat saying his girlfriend is

1057
00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:05,120
Speaker 2: the cheesemonger at Smith's here in Bozeman, and that this

1058
00:56:05,239 --> 00:56:09,160
Speaker 2: lady is he That's amazing nice. So Amelia's still here

1059
00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:09,600
Speaker 2: she heard that.

1060
00:56:09,719 --> 00:56:11,759
Speaker 3: That's it's amazing good good.

1061
00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:15,440
Speaker 1: I saw another person say that she could lead Wisconsin

1062
00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:19,240
Speaker 1: into battle. It would work.

1063
00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:21,560
Speaker 2: All right.

1064
00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:23,800
Speaker 1: For our last segment of the day, we have the

1065
00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:26,840
Speaker 1: Meat Eater Movie Club. This week, we're reviewing the twenty

1066
00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:30,080
Speaker 1: eighteen comedy The Legacy of a White Tailed Deer Hunter.

1067
00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:41,240
Speaker 2: Coincidentally enough, as a conversation about American versus other cheeses

1068
00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:42,200
Speaker 2: in this film.

1069
00:56:42,280 --> 00:56:45,560
Speaker 1: There is Yeah. I watched that last night. I was like, oh,

1070
00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:47,000
Speaker 1: they we got to bring that up tomorrow.

1071
00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:49,040
Speaker 3: Boy, I haven't heard that that jingle in a while.

1072
00:56:49,120 --> 00:56:49,640
Speaker 3: Thank you film?

1073
00:56:49,719 --> 00:56:50,080
Speaker 5: Oh yeah?

1074
00:56:50,239 --> 00:56:52,480
Speaker 2: Should I begin happy to play? Oh? Please do okay.

1075
00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:57,480
Speaker 3: On February fifteenth, two thousand and nine, I fell in

1076
00:56:57,600 --> 00:57:00,879
Speaker 3: love with a man. I was home for my first

1077
00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:03,000
Speaker 3: year at college. I was at a friend's house. Across

1078
00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:04,919
Speaker 3: the room, I caught a glimpse of a face unlike

1079
00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:07,640
Speaker 3: any I had seen before. I heard his voice, and

1080
00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:10,960
Speaker 3: I was transfixed. He told me, in no uncertain terms

1081
00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:13,560
Speaker 3: that he had a mind for victory in an arm

1082
00:57:13,719 --> 00:57:16,840
Speaker 3: like an eff and cannon. His name was Kenny Powers,

1083
00:57:17,080 --> 00:57:20,240
Speaker 3: the maladjusted protagonist of the HBO series Eastbound and Down.

1084
00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:23,200
Speaker 3: In the years that followed, I came to know and

1085
00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:26,200
Speaker 3: to love many other characters in the Danny McBride Jody

1086
00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:29,680
Speaker 3: Hill universe who resemble Kenny Powers. These men are not villains,

1087
00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:33,800
Speaker 3: They're not even precisely fools. Each is simply a man

1088
00:57:33,880 --> 00:57:36,640
Speaker 3: who has confused his own success in one domain of

1089
00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:40,760
Speaker 3: life for mastery in all domains. The inevitable consequence of

1090
00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:44,280
Speaker 3: this mindset is an existence punctuated by eruptions of frustration

1091
00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:47,200
Speaker 3: at the world around him. The expected results of his

1092
00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:50,960
Speaker 3: actions never quite align with his delusions of grandeur. These

1093
00:57:51,040 --> 00:57:55,680
Speaker 3: are men undone by their own mythologies. Josh poland Josh

1094
00:57:55,760 --> 00:57:58,560
Speaker 3: Bollen plays just such a man in the twenty eighteen

1095
00:57:58,600 --> 00:58:03,280
Speaker 3: Netflix original Legacy of a White Tailed Deer Hunter. Despite

1096
00:58:03,320 --> 00:58:06,600
Speaker 3: the provocative opening sentence of this review, what follows is

1097
00:58:06,640 --> 00:58:09,640
Speaker 3: not a celebration of my favorite comedic catalog. This is

1098
00:58:09,720 --> 00:58:12,320
Speaker 3: Meat Eater Movie Club, where a focus has always remains

1099
00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:15,040
Speaker 3: laser focused on the film at hand. Yes, but I

1100
00:58:15,080 --> 00:58:16,800
Speaker 3: thought it was too good of a cold open, so

1101
00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:19,480
Speaker 3: I kept it in there, And that detail explains the

1102
00:58:19,560 --> 00:58:22,000
Speaker 3: lack of a decent transition at this point in the review.

1103
00:58:23,080 --> 00:58:26,200
Speaker 3: The plot of Legacy is relatively simple. Man loves hunting,

1104
00:58:26,360 --> 00:58:29,560
Speaker 3: Man ignores son. Man attempts to force son to love hunting,

1105
00:58:29,720 --> 00:58:33,400
Speaker 3: Son declines. Josh Brolin stars as Buck Ferguson, the host

1106
00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:36,240
Speaker 3: of a successful hunting video series, who takes his a

1107
00:58:36,320 --> 00:58:38,960
Speaker 3: strange son into the wilderness to shoot his first deer,

1108
00:58:39,480 --> 00:58:42,400
Speaker 3: a ritual Buck believes will forge the bond their fractured

1109
00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:47,160
Speaker 3: relationship has lacked. Jaden, predictably would rather be elsewhere Buck

1110
00:58:47,240 --> 00:58:50,840
Speaker 3: Ferguson wants his son to want a deer, and beneath that,

1111
00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:53,480
Speaker 3: he wants his son to want him to see in

1112
00:58:53,560 --> 00:58:56,240
Speaker 3: his father, not a man his mother divorced, not a

1113
00:58:56,320 --> 00:58:59,400
Speaker 3: stranger who shows up with camera equipment and a bumbling sidekick,

1114
00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:03,479
Speaker 3: but a living repository of masculine wisdom. This is, of course,

1115
00:59:03,560 --> 00:59:06,800
Speaker 3: not how children work. Children are not vessels waiting to

1116
00:59:06,840 --> 00:59:10,440
Speaker 3: be filled with their father's hobbies. They're already full of

1117
00:59:10,480 --> 00:59:13,280
Speaker 3: their own desires, most of which involve a guitar practice

1118
00:59:13,320 --> 00:59:16,880
Speaker 3: and texting their girlfriends. Here's another spot where I could

1119
00:59:16,880 --> 00:59:20,560
Speaker 3: have come up with a better transition. In nineteen fifty six,

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00:59:20,680 --> 00:59:24,240
Speaker 3: the sociologist Irving Goffman published the Presentation of Self in

1121
00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:27,080
Speaker 3: an Everyday Life, in which you argue that human social

1122
00:59:27,120 --> 00:59:30,760
Speaker 3: interaction is essentially theatrical, that we are all at times

1123
00:59:30,840 --> 00:59:34,160
Speaker 3: performing versions of ourselves for audiences we have consciously or

1124
00:59:34,320 --> 00:59:38,880
Speaker 3: unconsciously assembled. Goffman did not mean this point cynically. The performance,

1125
00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:40,960
Speaker 3: he suggested, is not a distortion of the self, but

1126
00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:43,840
Speaker 3: an expression of it. We become, in some meaningful sense,

1127
00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:48,760
Speaker 3: what we repeatedly enact. The costume becomes the skin. Buck

1128
00:59:48,840 --> 00:59:52,840
Speaker 3: Ferguson does not merely hunt. He films himself hunting. Every

1129
00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:56,280
Speaker 3: descent into the wilderness is simultaneously a descent into the

1130
00:59:56,360 --> 01:00:00,080
Speaker 3: role of Buck Ferguson, legendary outdoorsman, as mediated through the

1131
01:00:00,160 --> 01:00:03,840
Speaker 3: lens of Don, a role masterfully inhabited by Danny McBride.

1132
01:00:04,560 --> 01:00:08,200
Speaker 3: The film's sharpest Excuse me, this is the film's sharpest

1133
01:00:08,280 --> 01:00:12,000
Speaker 3: and most under explored insight. The camera does not actually

1134
01:00:12,120 --> 01:00:17,160
Speaker 3: capture authenticity, it replaces it. The moment Buck raises his rifle,

1135
01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:19,200
Speaker 3: he is no longer a man in the woods. He

1136
01:00:19,320 --> 01:00:21,720
Speaker 3: is a man in the woods being watched, which is

1137
01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:25,680
Speaker 3: an entirely different psychological condition, one that forecloses the very

1138
01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:28,000
Speaker 3: intimacy with nature and with his son that Buck so

1139
01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:31,920
Speaker 3: desperately desires. This is a I've apologize, is going on

1140
01:00:32,040 --> 01:00:33,040
Speaker 3: longer than I thought.

1141
01:00:33,240 --> 01:00:34,640
Speaker 2: No, you we all expect.

1142
01:00:35,640 --> 01:00:38,080
Speaker 3: There is a cruelty to this arrangement that the film

1143
01:00:38,160 --> 01:00:42,040
Speaker 3: only partially acknowledges. Buck wants to give him. Buck wants

1144
01:00:42,080 --> 01:00:44,960
Speaker 3: to give his son something real, a memory, a tradition,

1145
01:00:45,240 --> 01:00:48,000
Speaker 3: a moment of shared significance. But he has invited a

1146
01:00:48,120 --> 01:00:51,080
Speaker 3: camera to witness it, which means he has already converted

1147
01:00:51,120 --> 01:00:54,800
Speaker 3: the moment from experience into content. The dear if shot

1148
01:00:54,920 --> 01:00:57,720
Speaker 3: will not be a private communion between father and son,

1149
01:00:58,320 --> 01:01:01,720
Speaker 3: it will be episode forty seven buck Fever. The memory

1150
01:01:01,800 --> 01:01:04,960
Speaker 3: will be archived before it is even formed. This is not,

1151
01:01:05,120 --> 01:01:07,520
Speaker 3: it should be noted, an affliction unique to men named

1152
01:01:07,560 --> 01:01:10,920
Speaker 3: Buck Ferguson. We live now in a civilization that has

1153
01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:14,360
Speaker 3: developed an extraordinary and insatiable appetite for the documentation of

1154
01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:19,360
Speaker 3: its own significant moments, births, deaths, proposals, first steps, last words.

1155
01:01:20,000 --> 01:01:23,440
Speaker 3: All of it fed into the great digital maw, transforming

1156
01:01:23,520 --> 01:01:27,440
Speaker 3: from experience into artifact, from felt into filmed. It is

1157
01:01:27,560 --> 01:01:32,160
Speaker 3: widely acknowledged that writing restructures consciousness. One shudders to contemplate

1158
01:01:32,240 --> 01:01:34,680
Speaker 3: what the selfie lens on an iPhone camera has done

1159
01:01:34,720 --> 01:01:37,640
Speaker 3: to it, Or I might add a set of three

1160
01:01:37,720 --> 01:01:41,000
Speaker 3: cameras on tripods used to live stream a podcast every Thursday,

1161
01:01:41,080 --> 01:01:44,520
Speaker 3: during which occasionally a man reviews films. It is not

1162
01:01:44,680 --> 01:01:47,240
Speaker 3: lost on your reviewer that this segment is itself a

1163
01:01:47,320 --> 01:01:50,600
Speaker 3: performance during which Randa Williams movie critic is as much

1164
01:01:50,640 --> 01:01:54,960
Speaker 3: a constructed identity as Buck Ferguson Outdoorsman. The difference, perhaps

1165
01:01:55,160 --> 01:01:58,560
Speaker 3: is one of self awareness. Buck never quite grasps that

1166
01:01:58,680 --> 01:02:01,360
Speaker 3: the camera has replaced the excis experience he was chasing,

1167
01:02:02,080 --> 01:02:05,160
Speaker 3: whereas I know that I'm full of shit. A meaningful

1168
01:02:05,240 --> 01:02:07,280
Speaker 3: conclusion to this review was hard to come up with.

1169
01:02:09,320 --> 01:02:12,520
Speaker 1: Okay, Randall, you're a really good writer out there.

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01:02:14,040 --> 01:02:17,040
Speaker 4: Someone says you're in the chat that Randall writes, well,

1171
01:02:17,240 --> 01:02:19,000
Speaker 4: oh thank you, rights so well, thank you?

1172
01:02:19,200 --> 01:02:21,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Irving Goffman, that was the text that I

1173
01:02:22,000 --> 01:02:26,040
Speaker 3: read in probably my worst series of classes in college.

1174
01:02:26,880 --> 01:02:30,120
Speaker 3: It's terrible, and I've skipped two of them to watch

1175
01:02:30,640 --> 01:02:33,800
Speaker 3: some of my favorite teams lose in NCAA championship games

1176
01:02:33,800 --> 01:02:34,120
Speaker 3: that year.

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01:02:34,480 --> 01:02:36,919
Speaker 1: Okay, but only to Florida. If I recall, you must

1178
01:02:36,960 --> 01:02:39,440
Speaker 1: have been a good student. If missing two classes was no.

1179
01:02:39,640 --> 01:02:41,360
Speaker 3: No, no, I missed more than that, But two of

1180
01:02:41,440 --> 01:02:44,560
Speaker 3: them were specifically to watch Ohio based sports teams lose

1181
01:02:44,640 --> 01:02:45,480
Speaker 3: in college. Got it?

1182
01:02:45,680 --> 01:02:46,000
Speaker 1: Okay?

1183
01:02:46,360 --> 01:02:47,200
Speaker 2: Hopefully it depends on.

1184
01:02:49,000 --> 01:02:52,200
Speaker 3: Guys. I think if you go to this film wanting

1185
01:02:52,280 --> 01:02:57,320
Speaker 3: to see a great hunting film, you're you're missing the point. Yeah.

1186
01:02:57,840 --> 01:03:03,400
Speaker 3: I think that the you know, like, nobody watches Ricky

1187
01:03:03,480 --> 01:03:07,240
Speaker 3: Bobby Talladega Knights and says that's not how sports cars were, right,

1188
01:03:07,600 --> 01:03:13,320
Speaker 3: nobody watches so throw Away, the Weird Camo, the CGI,

1189
01:03:13,520 --> 01:03:17,840
Speaker 3: dear Yea, all that stuff. I enjoyed this film, not

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01:03:18,000 --> 01:03:19,960
Speaker 3: as much as I enjoyed the rest of his catalog,

1191
01:03:20,040 --> 01:03:22,840
Speaker 3: but I thought it it. I mean, the reviews I

1192
01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:25,840
Speaker 3: read were terrible, but I thought it was good twenty

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01:03:25,920 --> 01:03:27,560
Speaker 3: five percent on Rotten Tomatoes.

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01:03:27,640 --> 01:03:30,400
Speaker 1: I think I saw another IMDb had it like two

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01:03:30,520 --> 01:03:33,840
Speaker 1: point eight out of ten stars. So not a well

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01:03:33,920 --> 01:03:35,440
Speaker 1: received straight to streaming.

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01:03:35,720 --> 01:03:36,439
Speaker 2: I think that's fair.

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01:03:36,840 --> 01:03:38,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would agree with that.

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01:03:38,520 --> 01:03:38,720
Speaker 5: Yeah.

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01:03:39,080 --> 01:03:42,840
Speaker 3: And if you see the title, what's wrong? Oh, just

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01:03:43,120 --> 01:03:45,000
Speaker 3: you guys, didn't you guys didn't enjoy it.

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01:03:45,680 --> 01:03:47,840
Speaker 1: I'm glad I got to watch it. I imagine there's

1203
01:03:47,880 --> 01:03:49,760
Speaker 1: some point in my life I would have needed to

1204
01:03:49,880 --> 01:03:53,200
Speaker 1: have turned this on. But if you're like, if you

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01:03:53,280 --> 01:03:55,040
Speaker 1: see the title and you're like, this is a movie

1206
01:03:55,120 --> 01:03:59,440
Speaker 1: for deer hunters, that would be incorrect. It's not like

1207
01:04:00,080 --> 01:04:04,040
Speaker 1: Anie McBride's catalog. You wouldn't watch Righteous Gemstones if you

1208
01:04:04,200 --> 01:04:07,600
Speaker 1: attended a megachurch in the South, like it's it's just

1209
01:04:07,720 --> 01:04:10,000
Speaker 1: not for you, yes, and this film isn't really for

1210
01:04:10,240 --> 01:04:12,840
Speaker 1: someone you know who really loves the outdoors.

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01:04:12,880 --> 01:04:14,600
Speaker 3: Although there's a lot of stuff in there that you

1212
01:04:14,640 --> 01:04:17,520
Speaker 3: wouldn't pick up on if you didn't live in this space.

1213
01:04:17,680 --> 01:04:20,160
Speaker 3: That's true when he when he wrecks the ATV and

1214
01:04:20,240 --> 01:04:22,439
Speaker 3: he's like, now I have to pay for that. Yeah,

1215
01:04:22,560 --> 01:04:25,960
Speaker 3: it's great. When he says the air mattress, he's like,

1216
01:04:26,080 --> 01:04:27,800
Speaker 3: he's like, they sent me this, you know, like to

1217
01:04:27,920 --> 01:04:30,040
Speaker 3: test this out. And he just reads like the product

1218
01:04:30,120 --> 01:04:33,880
Speaker 3: description to his son, like it's very in conversation with

1219
01:04:34,080 --> 01:04:34,880
Speaker 3: the real uh.

1220
01:04:35,600 --> 01:04:37,680
Speaker 2: And Jody Hill and Danny mcbrid broth grew up in

1221
01:04:37,720 --> 01:04:40,400
Speaker 2: North Carolina, like really inundated in this culture, and so

1222
01:04:40,680 --> 01:04:42,720
Speaker 2: I think they bring a lot of affection for it

1223
01:04:42,800 --> 01:04:46,240
Speaker 2: while also you know, kicking it on a little bit.

1224
01:04:46,560 --> 01:04:51,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I liked that while he is talking about getting

1225
01:04:51,240 --> 01:04:54,200
Speaker 1: the air mattress for free, you have a well placed

1226
01:04:54,360 --> 01:04:57,840
Speaker 1: Ozark Trail logo on the tent, and my wife and

1227
01:04:57,920 --> 01:05:01,400
Speaker 1: I disagreed on if Ozark Trail paid for that placement

1228
01:05:01,680 --> 01:05:04,160
Speaker 1: or not. I said, there's no way that Ozark Trail

1229
01:05:04,280 --> 01:05:07,720
Speaker 1: has that budget to do that. And then also the

1230
01:05:07,800 --> 01:05:10,280
Speaker 1: tent was like just kind of loose and sloppy, like

1231
01:05:10,360 --> 01:05:13,480
Speaker 1: they wouldn't be satisfied with seeing their tent like that,

1232
01:05:14,200 --> 01:05:16,400
Speaker 1: but you could see it and you know feel either

1233
01:05:16,440 --> 01:05:19,640
Speaker 1: way they're like, Oh, he's talking about a sponsorship thing

1234
01:05:20,040 --> 01:05:22,720
Speaker 1: while there's a sponsorship thing happening on this movie. It

1235
01:05:22,840 --> 01:05:25,040
Speaker 1: was like breaking the fourth wall in a way.

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01:05:25,720 --> 01:05:25,959
Speaker 5: Yeah.

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01:05:26,560 --> 01:05:29,280
Speaker 3: I mean, I think for me, I have a hard

1238
01:05:29,360 --> 01:05:32,200
Speaker 3: time coming into this and judging it on its merits

1239
01:05:32,320 --> 01:05:36,160
Speaker 3: because there's so many elements of a classic Danny McBride

1240
01:05:37,240 --> 01:05:43,360
Speaker 3: product in it. There's the lackey McBride plays essentially Stevie

1241
01:05:43,480 --> 01:05:46,880
Speaker 3: Janowski from East Bound and Down. He's he's the man

1242
01:05:47,000 --> 01:05:51,120
Speaker 3: who wants to be the great man, who really cares

1243
01:05:51,400 --> 01:05:55,120
Speaker 3: nothing about his welfare, and in fact he suffers disfigurement

1244
01:05:55,640 --> 01:06:02,640
Speaker 3: for that man several times, this several times saying inappropriate

1245
01:06:02,720 --> 01:06:07,960
Speaker 3: things to children. When he describes parkour as gymnastics, I

1246
01:06:08,000 --> 01:06:10,080
Speaker 3: couldn't help but think of the classic line I'm not

1247
01:06:10,160 --> 01:06:13,320
Speaker 3: trying to be the best at exercising to describe a triathlon.

1248
01:06:15,120 --> 01:06:17,960
Speaker 3: He has like a very precise understanding of behaviors that

1249
01:06:18,080 --> 01:06:21,920
Speaker 3: make characters look like losers, like when the stepdad is

1250
01:06:21,960 --> 01:06:28,120
Speaker 3: riding the hoverboard right, and then the guy taking pleasure

1251
01:06:28,320 --> 01:06:32,720
Speaker 3: in secretly sabotaging like one of his rivals when he's

1252
01:06:32,760 --> 01:06:34,640
Speaker 3: deleting the pictures off the phone like these are a

1253
01:06:34,720 --> 01:06:36,640
Speaker 3: classic Kenny Powers motifs.

1254
01:06:37,920 --> 01:06:39,960
Speaker 1: Do you think do you think if someone loved Kenny Powers,

1255
01:06:39,960 --> 01:06:40,560
Speaker 1: they would love this.

1256
01:06:40,920 --> 01:06:42,640
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't want to go I don't want

1257
01:06:42,640 --> 01:06:44,120
Speaker 3: to go overboard here. I don't I wouldn't say that

1258
01:06:44,160 --> 01:06:46,240
Speaker 3: I loved it. I enjoyed it. I don't know that

1259
01:06:46,320 --> 01:06:49,919
Speaker 3: I'll watch it again. I won't revisit it. But given

1260
01:06:50,000 --> 01:06:55,000
Speaker 3: the state of comedy movies in the two, I guess

1261
01:06:55,040 --> 01:06:57,280
Speaker 3: this is twenty eighteen, so sort of coming out of

1262
01:06:57,320 --> 01:07:00,760
Speaker 3: the tail end of that era. But I don't know.

1263
01:07:00,840 --> 01:07:03,360
Speaker 3: I enjoyed watching something that I had never seen before,

1264
01:07:03,400 --> 01:07:06,120
Speaker 3: and it kind of tickled my tickled the right notes

1265
01:07:06,160 --> 01:07:06,400
Speaker 3: for me.

1266
01:07:07,360 --> 01:07:10,320
Speaker 1: I there's certain times when we're making a piece of

1267
01:07:10,440 --> 01:07:13,040
Speaker 1: content at Meat Eater, and you know when you're doing it,

1268
01:07:13,200 --> 01:07:16,160
Speaker 1: like this is really good or this kind of sucks.

1269
01:07:16,360 --> 01:07:19,600
Speaker 1: We like didn't hit our marks. I'm certain they knew

1270
01:07:19,600 --> 01:07:21,840
Speaker 1: when they were making this movie that they were making

1271
01:07:22,600 --> 01:07:24,440
Speaker 1: a movie that was going to get twenty five percent

1272
01:07:24,520 --> 01:07:26,640
Speaker 1: on rot Tomatoes. Yeah, I'm sure that they felt it

1273
01:07:26,920 --> 01:07:30,760
Speaker 1: and were very aware, and that probably was a little

1274
01:07:30,800 --> 01:07:33,640
Speaker 1: freeing for them that, like, boy, this is just a

1275
01:07:33,680 --> 01:07:37,360
Speaker 1: steaming pile we've made. Oh yeah, and that's okay because

1276
01:07:37,400 --> 01:07:38,280
Speaker 1: that's that's what it is.

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01:07:38,360 --> 01:07:38,520
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1278
01:07:38,520 --> 01:07:42,840
Speaker 2: I don't think it's a good movie, but it's very watchable,

1279
01:07:43,080 --> 01:07:45,560
Speaker 2: mostly because of Brolin and Danny McBride. I think they're

1280
01:07:45,600 --> 01:07:49,600
Speaker 2: just very compelling, fun actors to watch. And it does have,

1281
01:07:49,760 --> 01:07:52,520
Speaker 2: like Randall said, most of the hallmarks of a McBride

1282
01:07:52,560 --> 01:07:54,640
Speaker 2: like Jody Hill thing, which is like a guy who

1283
01:07:54,680 --> 01:07:57,200
Speaker 2: wears his fragile ego just like all plastered right there.

1284
01:07:58,640 --> 01:08:01,680
Speaker 3: Brolin's great. Yeah, there's just like the moments where he's

1285
01:08:01,760 --> 01:08:05,920
Speaker 3: like not on camera and he's like quietly sad or desperate.

1286
01:08:08,280 --> 01:08:11,800
Speaker 3: He the other The other thing I enjoyed was ending

1287
01:08:11,920 --> 01:08:17,240
Speaker 3: with a climactic like Whitewater negotiating the rapids. How many

1288
01:08:17,280 --> 01:08:19,000
Speaker 3: movies have ended with that. I'd like to think that

1289
01:08:19,120 --> 01:08:20,800
Speaker 3: they didn't know how to end the movie and they

1290
01:08:20,840 --> 01:08:21,960
Speaker 3: were just like, let's just do it.

1291
01:08:24,400 --> 01:08:27,400
Speaker 1: Yeah. Another thing I enjoyed was that they had a

1292
01:08:27,560 --> 01:08:31,840
Speaker 1: Mary Poppins backpack. Were like, it didn't matter the size

1293
01:08:31,840 --> 01:08:34,040
Speaker 1: of the backpack they had. Any piece of gear could

1294
01:08:34,040 --> 01:08:34,840
Speaker 1: have come out of that thing.

1295
01:08:35,040 --> 01:08:38,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, at any time. And the guitar I did enjoy,

1296
01:08:39,680 --> 01:08:42,719
Speaker 3: like the vo mid sequence in the film he talks

1297
01:08:42,760 --> 01:08:44,800
Speaker 3: about he has like the vo where he's like Buck

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01:08:44,840 --> 01:08:48,960
Speaker 3: Ferguson goes always gets his deer and that was dead on. Yeah.

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01:08:49,200 --> 01:08:53,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, those those videos are great. I specifically flagged the

1300
01:08:53,680 --> 01:08:57,000
Speaker 2: soundtrack of of of those those hunting videos, which was

1301
01:08:57,120 --> 01:09:01,840
Speaker 2: very like Mannheim Steamroller likes jangly synth stuff like it,

1302
01:09:02,120 --> 01:09:04,040
Speaker 2: but it fits so well. I thought that was like

1303
01:09:04,120 --> 01:09:06,120
Speaker 2: a really inspired decision.

1304
01:09:06,160 --> 01:09:09,000
Speaker 1: Phil. I saw the Mannheim Steamroller in Bozeman a couple

1305
01:09:09,000 --> 01:09:09,280
Speaker 1: of years.

1306
01:09:09,320 --> 01:09:10,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, remember you tell me about that.

1307
01:09:10,400 --> 01:09:12,880
Speaker 1: And then they played Convoy while they were there, even

1308
01:09:12,880 --> 01:09:14,840
Speaker 1: though it was a Christmas show. They said they can't

1309
01:09:14,840 --> 01:09:15,919
Speaker 1: do a show without playing.

1310
01:09:15,800 --> 01:09:18,280
Speaker 2: Sure, you gotta do the hits. I've got some questions

1311
01:09:18,320 --> 01:09:20,960
Speaker 2: for you, guys, because you know, I'm not really I'm

1312
01:09:21,000 --> 01:09:23,240
Speaker 2: new to this whole world, but just just some vernacular.

1313
01:09:23,400 --> 01:09:27,320
Speaker 2: Have you ever before shooting an animal said referred to

1314
01:09:27,840 --> 01:09:32,400
Speaker 2: shooting it as punching a time card? No, okay. One

1315
01:09:32,400 --> 01:09:34,120
Speaker 2: of my favorite lines too, was I'm gonna honor this

1316
01:09:34,240 --> 01:09:37,000
Speaker 2: deer by splitting its dang eyebrows? Have you ever said

1317
01:09:37,040 --> 01:09:41,200
Speaker 2: that that? I was just wondering if those were common phrases.

1318
01:09:41,400 --> 01:09:43,160
Speaker 2: I'm just not not privy too, Okay.

1319
01:09:43,880 --> 01:09:47,080
Speaker 1: The other one was that people will joke about other

1320
01:09:47,200 --> 01:09:49,960
Speaker 1: people saying catch a deer, and I personally never heard

1321
01:09:50,040 --> 01:09:52,240
Speaker 1: someone say catch a deer. Yeah, and so it feels

1322
01:09:52,280 --> 01:09:56,240
Speaker 1: like it's like being overplayed that someone who's out of

1323
01:09:56,240 --> 01:09:57,720
Speaker 1: the loop would say catch a deep But they say

1324
01:09:57,840 --> 01:09:59,479
Speaker 1: multiple times in this movie.

1325
01:09:59,640 --> 01:10:02,200
Speaker 3: Ye make I mean they make like hats that are

1326
01:10:02,360 --> 01:10:04,880
Speaker 3: say catching deer. Yeah, you know, it's like a joke.

1327
01:10:05,040 --> 01:10:08,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, Seth watched this movie back during COVID. Seth, what

1328
01:10:08,120 --> 01:10:08,640
Speaker 1: did you think of it?

1329
01:10:08,720 --> 01:10:08,880
Speaker 5: Then?

1330
01:10:11,280 --> 01:10:14,000
Speaker 2: Well, I don't remember a whole lot.

1331
01:10:13,920 --> 01:10:14,599
Speaker 3: Of it, to be honest.

1332
01:10:14,760 --> 01:10:16,519
Speaker 4: Yep, But it was one of those movies like when

1333
01:10:16,520 --> 01:10:19,240
Speaker 4: you guys said you're gonna review them, I'll review this movie.

1334
01:10:19,280 --> 01:10:20,880
Speaker 2: I was like, I'm not gonna watch it again. Like

1335
01:10:21,120 --> 01:10:22,000
Speaker 2: I feel like that's fair.

1336
01:10:22,160 --> 01:10:24,479
Speaker 4: I feel like what I've seen and remember is like

1337
01:10:24,640 --> 01:10:27,080
Speaker 4: enough to get through this segment of the show that

1338
01:10:27,600 --> 01:10:31,439
Speaker 4: I just didn't want to spend any more time watching

1339
01:10:31,520 --> 01:10:34,080
Speaker 4: it again because what I remember was that it was

1340
01:10:34,560 --> 01:10:38,320
Speaker 4: it was. It had its funny moments, but overall it

1341
01:10:38,479 --> 01:10:41,440
Speaker 4: was you know, I'm with the folks on Rotten Tomatoes.

1342
01:10:41,520 --> 01:10:41,720
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1343
01:10:42,200 --> 01:10:45,839
Speaker 1: Seth had observed that it was like watching Jackie Bushman

1344
01:10:46,479 --> 01:10:48,280
Speaker 1: portrayed in a movie, and I said, well, actually, it's

1345
01:10:48,280 --> 01:10:52,120
Speaker 1: about Roger Regland. That's who Josh Brolin's character was based on.

1346
01:10:52,280 --> 01:10:55,160
Speaker 1: So if you're a fan of Roger Regland, then maybe

1347
01:10:55,160 --> 01:10:56,120
Speaker 1: you need to watch this movie.

1348
01:10:56,320 --> 01:10:59,280
Speaker 2: It did have one of my favorite sort of tropes

1349
01:10:59,320 --> 01:11:03,840
Speaker 2: of a Danny mcride project, which was genuine emotional sweetness

1350
01:11:03,880 --> 01:11:08,240
Speaker 2: that's punctuated by something like horribly explicit. When he's telling

1351
01:11:08,320 --> 01:11:10,479
Speaker 2: the story to the Sun about his girlfriend, he's like,

1352
01:11:10,640 --> 01:11:12,479
Speaker 2: I got this girlfriend, Kim. Did you know she was

1353
01:11:12,520 --> 01:11:15,800
Speaker 2: a registered nurse and a mechanic. Yeah, and so I

1354
01:11:15,960 --> 01:11:17,720
Speaker 2: told her that I had a broken truck and a

1355
01:11:17,760 --> 01:11:18,960
Speaker 2: heart condition and she liked that.

1356
01:11:19,320 --> 01:11:19,479
Speaker 4: You know.

1357
01:11:20,320 --> 01:11:22,320
Speaker 2: It's like a genuinely sweet moment. And he's like, and

1358
01:11:22,439 --> 01:11:26,240
Speaker 2: check these out. Then he pulls out the cuckold polaroid pictures.

1359
01:11:26,520 --> 01:11:26,720
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1360
01:11:26,760 --> 01:11:30,400
Speaker 3: I apologize to anybody that watched this. I didn't realize

1361
01:11:30,400 --> 01:11:32,040
Speaker 3: that scene was in there. I'd never seen it.

1362
01:11:32,400 --> 01:11:33,920
Speaker 2: It was great. He's got one where he's on his

1363
01:11:34,320 --> 01:11:36,280
Speaker 2: foot with the missing toe. He's like, see that, that's

1364
01:11:36,320 --> 01:11:36,639
Speaker 2: my foot.

1365
01:11:36,720 --> 01:11:40,840
Speaker 3: The missing toe is so good. I don't know how

1366
01:11:40,920 --> 01:11:42,639
Speaker 3: much more we want to I liked the kids playing

1367
01:11:42,720 --> 01:11:46,439
Speaker 3: Redemption song and the dad. The dad compliments it and

1368
01:11:46,560 --> 01:11:48,439
Speaker 3: he's like, I didn't understand any of the lyrics, but

1369
01:11:48,520 --> 01:11:51,120
Speaker 3: it sounded good. The dad not knowing that his son

1370
01:11:51,200 --> 01:11:54,000
Speaker 3: has been playing guitar for two years is great. And

1371
01:11:54,120 --> 01:11:57,479
Speaker 3: then my last note is one of my favorite all

1372
01:11:57,600 --> 01:12:01,559
Speaker 3: time lines from a film. Oh from this film, Yes,

1373
01:12:03,479 --> 01:12:07,639
Speaker 3: when he begins to tell the story to the kid

1374
01:12:07,920 --> 01:12:11,439
Speaker 3: of him splitting up with the kid's mom, and he

1375
01:12:11,520 --> 01:12:15,400
Speaker 3: goes it started at own nine DVD sales were down slightly,

1376
01:12:18,160 --> 01:12:22,559
Speaker 3: and then proceeds to say that, uh, the he had

1377
01:12:22,880 --> 01:12:25,560
Speaker 3: he had to prevent the kid's mom from going to

1378
01:12:25,640 --> 01:12:27,759
Speaker 3: the mall. After that, that was great.

1379
01:12:28,640 --> 01:12:30,519
Speaker 2: Sorry, if you heard some static on this stream here,

1380
01:12:30,960 --> 01:12:32,439
Speaker 2: I don't know where it's coming from. It doesn't sound

1381
01:12:32,479 --> 01:12:34,200
Speaker 2: like cell phone stuff. I've never heard this sound before,

1382
01:12:34,280 --> 01:12:36,200
Speaker 2: so it's probably a good thing the show's ending. Yeah,

1383
01:12:36,439 --> 01:12:37,920
Speaker 2: I just want to throw out one a couple, a

1384
01:12:37,960 --> 01:12:40,559
Speaker 2: couple of lines that I really enjoyed. When when when

1385
01:12:40,720 --> 01:12:43,960
Speaker 2: Brolin finds him with the pictures and he's kind of

1386
01:12:44,040 --> 01:12:45,719
Speaker 2: yelling at the kid even though it's not his fault

1387
01:12:45,720 --> 01:12:48,519
Speaker 2: at all, and and he says, I'm not a kid anymore.

1388
01:12:48,520 --> 01:12:49,800
Speaker 2: He goes, you are a kid when it comes to

1389
01:12:49,920 --> 01:12:53,519
Speaker 2: nudeness and sexual relations. Ye, I did.

1390
01:12:53,680 --> 01:12:54,759
Speaker 3: I did love nudeness.

1391
01:12:55,160 --> 01:12:57,040
Speaker 2: There's one where he's talking to his girlfriend on the

1392
01:12:57,080 --> 01:12:59,000
Speaker 2: phone and it's clear that there's some like that the

1393
01:12:59,080 --> 01:13:01,880
Speaker 2: kid is the twelve year old kid and uh, and

1394
01:13:02,040 --> 01:13:03,840
Speaker 2: he says, you know, I he's something about how his

1395
01:13:03,920 --> 01:13:05,800
Speaker 2: girlfriend is hanging out with another boy that he found

1396
01:13:05,840 --> 01:13:08,320
Speaker 2: that peculiar. And there's some silence on the other line

1397
01:13:08,320 --> 01:13:11,040
Speaker 2: and he goes, I know, life's peculiar. I'm the one

1398
01:13:11,080 --> 01:13:11,760
Speaker 2: who taught you that.

1399
01:13:13,680 --> 01:13:13,800
Speaker 5: Uh.

1400
01:13:14,320 --> 01:13:18,080
Speaker 2: And then when when when when he shoots, don you

1401
01:13:18,240 --> 01:13:21,320
Speaker 2: see like an explosion of blood and Josh Brillen goes, shit,

1402
01:13:21,479 --> 01:13:26,080
Speaker 2: it's done. Those are those some of my favorites.

1403
01:13:26,240 --> 01:13:28,679
Speaker 1: Not strong mussle control in this movie.

1404
01:13:28,840 --> 01:13:30,760
Speaker 3: I mean, the big question for me is did he

1405
01:13:30,800 --> 01:13:35,160
Speaker 3: shoot at the end down then he brings it back up?

1406
01:13:35,720 --> 01:13:37,760
Speaker 3: That was great? Yeah, that was great, but it wasn't

1407
01:13:37,800 --> 01:13:38,519
Speaker 3: gonna be on camera.

1408
01:13:39,200 --> 01:13:41,720
Speaker 1: I bet this looked very familiar to you Big Buck

1409
01:13:41,800 --> 01:13:44,560
Speaker 1: Hunter boys, because that's like how the deer looked the

1410
01:13:44,680 --> 01:13:48,200
Speaker 1: sega was as though they just pulled them from a

1411
01:13:48,240 --> 01:13:49,479
Speaker 1: Big Buck Hunter video game.

1412
01:13:49,680 --> 01:13:51,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, I liked how bad the deer looked.

1413
01:13:51,439 --> 01:13:51,639
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1414
01:13:51,680 --> 01:13:53,280
Speaker 1: Oh, and they're always around like they're always in the

1415
01:13:53,320 --> 01:13:55,920
Speaker 1: most picturesque they're always at the water at the waterfall.

1416
01:13:56,120 --> 01:13:58,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was like they found a beautiful place and

1417
01:13:58,520 --> 01:13:59,920
Speaker 3: they're like, we know that Buck will be here.

1418
01:14:00,439 --> 01:14:00,679
Speaker 5: Great.

1419
01:14:00,920 --> 01:14:01,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's how it works.

1420
01:14:02,320 --> 01:14:05,240
Speaker 1: All right Again, our last episode next week with the

1421
01:14:05,400 --> 01:14:09,599
Speaker 1: movie club topic being Congo Randall's favorite movie.

1422
01:14:10,200 --> 01:14:10,840
Speaker 3: It's one of them.

1423
01:14:10,960 --> 01:14:14,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's top ten, top ten, Yeah for show. All right, Phil,

1424
01:14:14,479 --> 01:14:15,920
Speaker 1: let's get some final feedback from the chat.

1425
01:14:17,080 --> 01:14:19,200
Speaker 2: This is from Chase. Phil. You got to ask Randall

1426
01:14:19,200 --> 01:14:21,760
Speaker 2: what led to his trivia beatdown for Steve. Oh.

1427
01:14:22,880 --> 01:14:27,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, sometimes you just don't have it tough time killed me.

1428
01:14:28,200 --> 01:14:31,840
Speaker 3: That question. I will say that question is is an

1429
01:14:31,880 --> 01:14:35,800
Speaker 3: experience that I haven't had before. In the room where

1430
01:14:35,960 --> 01:14:40,400
Speaker 3: Steve was just talking and talking and there was there's

1431
01:14:40,520 --> 01:14:43,479
Speaker 3: nothing that could happen in my head, I just blew up.

1432
01:14:45,280 --> 01:14:47,760
Speaker 3: It's like playoff. It's like Game six Harden, you know,

1433
01:14:48,439 --> 01:14:51,080
Speaker 3: man in the arena. Yeah, yeah, I don't know. I

1434
01:14:51,600 --> 01:14:57,080
Speaker 3: like it's fun to have competition sometimes, So we'll be

1435
01:14:57,200 --> 01:14:58,320
Speaker 3: back sometimes.

1436
01:14:58,800 --> 01:14:59,639
Speaker 1: What else you got, Phil?

1437
01:15:00,080 --> 01:15:02,599
Speaker 2: Uh, throw this one to seth If you've got something

1438
01:15:02,640 --> 01:15:04,880
Speaker 2: to say. It's from Sarah. What's a good steelhead fishing

1439
01:15:04,960 --> 01:15:07,080
Speaker 2: tip Midwestern or fishing off the Great Lakes? And I'm

1440
01:15:07,120 --> 01:15:09,520
Speaker 2: new to the method, so any tip would be appreciated.

1441
01:15:09,720 --> 01:15:12,760
Speaker 2: Oh I'm not the right person now. I've never caught

1442
01:15:12,760 --> 01:15:14,719
Speaker 2: a steel I've never steal ahead fished before.

1443
01:15:14,840 --> 01:15:16,120
Speaker 1: I never touched one in my life.

1444
01:15:16,320 --> 01:15:19,000
Speaker 2: I'm not a big trout guy. Oh that sounded it

1445
01:15:19,080 --> 01:15:19,800
Speaker 2: sound kind of angry.

1446
01:15:20,040 --> 01:15:21,240
Speaker 3: Sarah, find.

1447
01:15:22,640 --> 01:15:26,400
Speaker 2: Find a buddy, just like warm, warm water stuff. YouTube.

1448
01:15:26,439 --> 01:15:30,200
Speaker 1: Go to YouTube type in steel head fishing, Great Lakes.

1449
01:15:29,960 --> 01:15:31,160
Speaker 2: Message Chester Floyd.

1450
01:15:31,320 --> 01:15:31,640
Speaker 1: There you go.

1451
01:15:31,800 --> 01:15:34,439
Speaker 2: On Instagram a couple of shout outs here. I thought

1452
01:15:34,479 --> 01:15:36,519
Speaker 2: this was fun. This is from Tyler. If any listeners

1453
01:15:36,600 --> 01:15:39,200
Speaker 2: of the or of the Meat Eater Squad or ever

1454
01:15:39,280 --> 01:15:42,240
Speaker 2: in southern Indiana, check out Old Homestead Distilling Company at

1455
01:15:42,280 --> 01:15:45,200
Speaker 2: Potoka Lake. We are sportsman friendly and out and they

1456
01:15:45,240 --> 01:15:48,560
Speaker 2: have outlets to charge boat batteries. Oh that's fantastic.

1457
01:15:48,600 --> 01:15:49,000
Speaker 3: That's good.

1458
01:15:49,600 --> 01:15:54,080
Speaker 2: I love that. And then uh, Jay Seuss is asking

1459
01:15:54,160 --> 01:15:56,360
Speaker 2: for a shout out from Randall for his daughter, who's

1460
01:15:56,360 --> 01:15:59,800
Speaker 2: probably one of his biggest little fans. Shout out to

1461
01:15:59,840 --> 01:16:01,880
Speaker 2: your daughter or or her looks like it might be

1462
01:16:01,920 --> 01:16:02,760
Speaker 2: a woman in the picture there.

1463
01:16:02,840 --> 01:16:05,479
Speaker 3: Shout out to your daughter, Jay Seuss two one four five.

1464
01:16:06,640 --> 01:16:08,320
Speaker 3: I don't know what it is that she sees in me,

1465
01:16:08,479 --> 01:16:10,760
Speaker 3: but it's good to have that support out there.

1466
01:16:12,080 --> 01:16:12,439
Speaker 1: What else?

1467
01:16:13,080 --> 01:16:15,200
Speaker 3: I don't think I played to a young crowd. Maybe

1468
01:16:15,240 --> 01:16:18,360
Speaker 3: I do. I've always thought I skewed older.

1469
01:16:18,960 --> 01:16:19,960
Speaker 2: What do you think?

1470
01:16:20,120 --> 01:16:22,000
Speaker 1: What do you think a randomal demographic is?

1471
01:16:22,960 --> 01:16:24,120
Speaker 5: Uh? I don't know.

1472
01:16:25,200 --> 01:16:28,960
Speaker 3: Guys watching east bounding down a lot? Yeah, history buffs

1473
01:16:29,080 --> 01:16:30,080
Speaker 3: maybe what what.

1474
01:16:30,160 --> 01:16:32,320
Speaker 1: Would he walk out of a gas station with he

1475
01:16:32,439 --> 01:16:33,840
Speaker 1: goes in there for beer and something?

1476
01:16:34,240 --> 01:16:35,800
Speaker 2: Roller dog, roller dog?

1477
01:16:35,880 --> 01:16:39,360
Speaker 3: Okay, cooler ranch, Dorito's cooler?

1478
01:16:40,360 --> 01:16:40,559
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1479
01:16:40,720 --> 01:16:43,400
Speaker 3: Didn't they change the more cool there? No, they're they're

1480
01:16:43,439 --> 01:16:45,720
Speaker 3: not cool ranch, am I right? It's all it's all

1481
01:16:45,800 --> 01:16:50,640
Speaker 3: cooler and and not nachio cheesier. Didn't they change that?

1482
01:16:51,080 --> 01:16:53,040
Speaker 2: Yeah? It used to be nacho cheesier and I think

1483
01:16:53,280 --> 01:16:56,040
Speaker 2: cooler ranch. But then they they made them all simplified

1484
01:16:56,080 --> 01:16:57,720
Speaker 2: because everyone was used saying cooler ranch.

1485
01:16:57,720 --> 01:17:00,560
Speaker 3: Anyway, I might be they made them all compare. Oh no,

1486
01:17:00,680 --> 01:17:02,160
Speaker 3: maybe they did go back to cool ranch.

1487
01:17:02,320 --> 01:17:06,360
Speaker 1: Okay, real random, I think walks into a game, random

1488
01:17:06,520 --> 01:17:09,519
Speaker 1: would know that he gets a roller hot dog.

1489
01:17:09,560 --> 01:17:10,479
Speaker 3: I feel like a fool.

1490
01:17:12,760 --> 01:17:16,960
Speaker 2: What else is I'll press the cut button. A couple of.

1491
01:17:18,920 --> 01:17:22,800
Speaker 3: A couple of brew dogs, yeah, some bruskies, yeah, maybe

1492
01:17:22,840 --> 01:17:23,640
Speaker 3: some nightcrawlers.

1493
01:17:24,160 --> 01:17:24,360
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1494
01:17:25,840 --> 01:17:28,760
Speaker 3: And he's got weird. He's got something weird that he's

1495
01:17:28,760 --> 01:17:29,280
Speaker 3: thinking about.

1496
01:17:30,160 --> 01:17:30,920
Speaker 2: Maybe some zin.

1497
01:17:31,520 --> 01:17:34,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's not going home to like a traditional I

1498
01:17:34,640 --> 01:17:36,760
Speaker 3: feel like he's not going home to like a traditional

1499
01:17:37,360 --> 01:17:42,519
Speaker 3: like uh, you know, like happy family sitting around the

1500
01:17:42,760 --> 01:17:44,920
Speaker 3: dinner table. I feel like he's kind of a loose cannon.

1501
01:17:45,479 --> 01:17:49,160
Speaker 1: And the cigarettes are speaking to him, but he doesn't listen.

1502
01:17:50,840 --> 01:17:57,080
Speaker 3: Usually sometimes he listens, but if he's not buying them,

1503
01:17:57,640 --> 01:17:59,000
Speaker 3: it's like he never smoked them.

1504
01:18:01,040 --> 01:18:04,160
Speaker 2: Favorite smoked trout recipes or techniques from Lane.

1505
01:18:05,080 --> 01:18:06,560
Speaker 3: I like them gifted to me.

1506
01:18:06,840 --> 01:18:09,880
Speaker 2: I like the I like to turn into smoke trout dip.

1507
01:18:11,200 --> 01:18:13,880
Speaker 1: Anybody will enjoy even if they're like I don't enjoy fish,

1508
01:18:14,240 --> 01:18:16,240
Speaker 1: they can enjoy a smoked fish dip.

1509
01:18:16,439 --> 01:18:16,639
Speaker 2: Yep.

1510
01:18:16,760 --> 01:18:19,559
Speaker 3: God, I'm totally shaken by the doritos thing. I always

1511
01:18:19,600 --> 01:18:21,200
Speaker 3: thought that was like a fun nugget that I had

1512
01:18:21,240 --> 01:18:21,639
Speaker 3: in my head.

1513
01:18:21,760 --> 01:18:25,200
Speaker 2: Oh man, sorry, last Oh, I don't even know if

1514
01:18:25,200 --> 01:18:25,840
Speaker 2: I have last one.

1515
01:18:26,360 --> 01:18:28,720
Speaker 1: Okay, that's all right. We will be back for the

1516
01:18:28,840 --> 01:18:30,240
Speaker 1: finale next week.

1517
01:18:30,320 --> 01:18:35,040
Speaker 2: Yes, six hour, mega stream, lots of stuff happening every segment.

1518
01:18:35,120 --> 01:18:38,200
Speaker 2: You could imagine. It's gonna be fun and us. This

1519
01:18:38,360 --> 01:18:39,639
Speaker 2: is me signing out for good.

1520
01:18:39,920 --> 01:18:42,800
Speaker 1: Oh well, you're gonna call in and deliver the happy

1521
01:18:43,000 --> 01:18:44,840
Speaker 1: It's true of the baby Radio.

1522
01:18:45,760 --> 01:18:46,200
Speaker 2: That's true.

1523
01:18:46,760 --> 01:18:50,600
Speaker 3: Did you know that internationally they're called cool American doritos.

1524
01:18:50,960 --> 01:18:51,519
Speaker 9: I like that.

1525
01:18:52,080 --> 01:18:52,800
Speaker 2: That's way cooler.

1526
01:18:53,880 --> 01:18:54,560
Speaker 5: So it was, it was.

1527
01:18:54,840 --> 01:18:56,040
Speaker 1: It was cooler from.

1528
01:18:56,080 --> 01:18:59,280
Speaker 3: Nineteen ninety five to two thousand and five. Two thousand

1529
01:18:59,280 --> 01:19:01,479
Speaker 3: and six, the day of my Derita's consumption.

1530
01:19:02,080 --> 01:19:04,680
Speaker 1: There's your flavor text in the future. All right, we'll

1531
01:19:04,720 --> 01:19:07,320
Speaker 1: see you back here for one last time next week,

1532
01:19:07,439 --> 01:19:08,760
Speaker 1: same time and place by now