WEBVTT - Jason Derulo 0:00:02.080 --> 0:00:05.720 Hey, guys, welcome to I've never said this before with me, 0:00:06.080 --> 0:00:09.680 Tommy Di Dario, I am pretty confident in saying that 0:00:09.720 --> 0:00:12.879 you have jammed out to today's guest while either driving 0:00:12.880 --> 0:00:15.840 in your car, or maybe working out and breaking a sweat, 0:00:16.040 --> 0:00:18.880 or while just dancing with your friends. I'm raising my 0:00:18.960 --> 0:00:21.680 hand because I am in the category of accomplishing all 0:00:21.720 --> 0:00:27.120 three of those. The award winning singer, songwriter, entrepreneur, and 0:00:27.160 --> 0:00:31.680 now author Jason Derulo is hanging out with me today now. 0:00:31.880 --> 0:00:35.479 Jason is easily one of the most dynamic forces on 0:00:35.520 --> 0:00:39.280 the global pop landscape. Period. He has sold over two 0:00:39.400 --> 0:00:43.839 hundred and fifty million singles worldwide and achieved fifteen platinum 0:00:43.880 --> 0:00:46.960 singles since the start of his solo recording career back 0:00:46.960 --> 0:00:50.240 in two thousand and nine. His music has earned get 0:00:50.280 --> 0:00:54.840 ready for It over eighteen point two billion streams. He 0:00:54.840 --> 0:00:58.000 has even become one of TikTok's biggest superstars, currently the 0:00:58.080 --> 0:01:01.240 fourth most followed mail on the entire platform, which I 0:01:01.320 --> 0:01:03.680 think is pretty damn cool because it's really become a 0:01:03.720 --> 0:01:06.320 place where he can connect with his fans, and he 0:01:06.400 --> 0:01:09.520 prioritizes that time. It's very important to him. Now on 0:01:09.560 --> 0:01:12.440 top of all of his musical brilliance. Jason has a 0:01:12.480 --> 0:01:15.720 new book out, part self help, part memoir called Sing 0:01:15.760 --> 0:01:18.880 Your Name Out Loud, in which he shares his fifteen 0:01:18.959 --> 0:01:22.400 rules for finding success in any pursuit, and he invites 0:01:22.440 --> 0:01:27.600 everyone yourself included, especially artists and creators and creative minds alike, 0:01:27.959 --> 0:01:30.959 to start on their path to greatness. As he says, 0:01:31.360 --> 0:01:34.600 and let me tell you, Jason has some incredible pieces 0:01:34.600 --> 0:01:36.920 of advice to share that are going to just leave 0:01:36.959 --> 0:01:40.440 you feeling so inspired and ready to take on the world. 0:01:41.040 --> 0:01:44.200 So let's see if today we can get Jason to 0:01:44.280 --> 0:01:50.960 say something that he's never said before. Jason, my man, 0:01:51.000 --> 0:01:52.000 how you doing today? 0:01:52.600 --> 0:01:54.680 Oh man, amazing, amazing? How about yourself? 0:01:54.960 --> 0:01:58.240 I'm awesome. Thank you for joining the show. Listen before 0:01:58.280 --> 0:02:00.280 we dive in, I have got to tell you that 0:02:00.760 --> 0:02:03.320 you are responsible for two years of my life making 0:02:03.360 --> 0:02:05.240 me feel like I was in a music video every 0:02:05.280 --> 0:02:06.160 day that I woke up. 0:02:06.920 --> 0:02:08.679 Oh word, how so well? 0:02:08.760 --> 0:02:11.760 Two thousand and nine Gossip Girl like the show that 0:02:11.800 --> 0:02:14.600 took over the world. Your first smash hit. What you 0:02:14.680 --> 0:02:18.120 say was in this like epic dramatic Thanksgiving scene where 0:02:18.160 --> 0:02:21.360 everybody was fighting and you know, throwing fists on the 0:02:21.400 --> 0:02:23.560 table and pushing their chair out to the beat of 0:02:23.600 --> 0:02:26.040 your music. And I went to bed that night and 0:02:26.080 --> 0:02:28.520 I woke up the next day like imagining myself in 0:02:28.560 --> 0:02:31.680 ten million scenarios thinking I'm in a music video. So 0:02:31.760 --> 0:02:34.600 thank you for that. You clouded my mind for two years. 0:02:34.880 --> 0:02:37.840 I love it, love it. 0:02:37.840 --> 0:02:40.720 It was awesome. So humble, brag on your behalf. Okay, 0:02:40.840 --> 0:02:43.920 you have sold over two hundred and fifty million singles. 0:02:44.360 --> 0:02:47.320 You are one of is it six artists that have 0:02:47.360 --> 0:02:49.880 had a number one hit in three different decades? Is 0:02:49.880 --> 0:02:50.280 that right? 0:02:51.040 --> 0:02:51.519 That's right. 0:02:52.600 --> 0:02:55.359 I mean the accolades, they go on and on and 0:02:55.400 --> 0:02:59.040 on and fast forward to today. You have a brand 0:02:59.040 --> 0:03:02.639 new book out that is absolutely fantastic. It's called Sing 0:03:02.760 --> 0:03:05.960 Your Name Out Loud. Tell me about this book. 0:03:07.800 --> 0:03:11.799 Really exciting, man. I wanted to write this book because 0:03:11.800 --> 0:03:12.959 there's a lot of dreamers. 0:03:12.680 --> 0:03:16.000 Out there that are giving up their dreams for what 0:03:17.440 --> 0:03:19.520 they feel like they should be doing. 0:03:19.680 --> 0:03:23.200 You know, I feel like we have this kind of 0:03:24.680 --> 0:03:26.640 we built the system where. 0:03:26.520 --> 0:03:29.560 We're supposed to, you know, go to high school, then 0:03:29.800 --> 0:03:31.880 you know, go to college and get a trade, and 0:03:32.680 --> 0:03:34.720 you know, it's that that's kind of like the norm 0:03:35.520 --> 0:03:37.160 and there's a lot of dreamers. There's a lot of 0:03:37.200 --> 0:03:40.600 creative people out there. There's just so many talented people 0:03:40.720 --> 0:03:42.600 out there that are just giving up their dream because 0:03:42.600 --> 0:03:44.320 they feel like they have to do a specific thing. 0:03:45.760 --> 0:03:47.440 So I wanted to write some sort. 0:03:47.160 --> 0:03:50.360 Of of handbook, you know, that could be an aid, 0:03:50.960 --> 0:03:55.480 you know, that could be a support system to these 0:03:55.560 --> 0:03:58.600 dreamers out there, because I mean, for myself, if I 0:03:58.640 --> 0:03:59.400 would have had. 0:03:59.240 --> 0:03:59.880 Some sort of. 0:04:01.480 --> 0:04:03.440 Handbook myself, if I would have bought my head a 0:04:03.440 --> 0:04:07.240 lot less times, and you know, if I was ever 0:04:07.280 --> 0:04:09.240 feeling a certain kind of way, I could turn to 0:04:09.320 --> 0:04:12.400 this you know, handbook and you know, get some help 0:04:12.520 --> 0:04:14.680 or try to figure out a question that I had 0:04:15.080 --> 0:04:19.000 by looking within this book. So I, you know, took 0:04:19.000 --> 0:04:21.080 a part in my life and tried to figure out 0:04:21.440 --> 0:04:24.960 what I thought were the fifteen rules that. 0:04:25.839 --> 0:04:28.080 Got me to be successful, you know, got me to 0:04:28.080 --> 0:04:29.360 where I am today, you. 0:04:29.240 --> 0:04:33.120 Know, not just in music, but in business and with 0:04:33.240 --> 0:04:36.480 social media as well. What are those fifteen rules that 0:04:36.600 --> 0:04:41.080 apply to success in all facets, you know, and not 0:04:41.200 --> 0:04:42.400 just one. 0:04:43.040 --> 0:04:46.599 And I don't know if there's been really any other 0:04:46.920 --> 0:04:49.360 musicians who have come out with this sort of self 0:04:49.400 --> 0:04:53.240 help book, right Uh no, not that I know of. 0:04:53.960 --> 0:04:56.760 So was that something that just felt really natural for you? 0:04:58.000 --> 0:05:00.920 It did, man, and it was it was a very 0:05:02.360 --> 0:05:05.279 selfless actor. I didn't do it for anybody else but 0:05:06.000 --> 0:05:07.039 young Jason Derulo. 0:05:07.279 --> 0:05:11.360 You know. I went that that young dreamer. 0:05:11.040 --> 0:05:13.479 Out there to be able to have something to hold 0:05:13.520 --> 0:05:16.680 on to, and not just young, right. I mean, I 0:05:16.680 --> 0:05:18.840 think there's also a lot of older dreamers that feel 0:05:18.839 --> 0:05:21.600 like it's too late, you know. And I don't think 0:05:21.640 --> 0:05:23.760 that's the fact that that's the fact of the matter 0:05:23.800 --> 0:05:27.240 at all. It's never too late to start, especially in 0:05:27.240 --> 0:05:30.680 twenty twenty three with how socials has kind of changed 0:05:30.680 --> 0:05:31.080 the world. 0:05:31.960 --> 0:05:35.920 So you just kind of beat this ball, right, it's 0:05:35.960 --> 0:05:36.440 my dog. 0:05:38.279 --> 0:05:44.760 We love a dog, cameo. Sure, this is Ice Ice. 0:05:45.600 --> 0:05:48.640 He's literally right right next to me, just just chomping 0:05:48.680 --> 0:05:49.440 on his book ball. 0:05:50.440 --> 0:05:54.320 That's amazing. Well, I love that you just hit on 0:05:54.320 --> 0:05:56.680 that too, man, because a lot of people think your 0:05:56.760 --> 0:06:00.280 dreams and your successes have to be twenties thirties. But 0:06:00.320 --> 0:06:03.320 there's so many people CEOs, billionaires, I mean, the list 0:06:03.360 --> 0:06:06.120 goes on and on that hit their sweetest success fifty 0:06:06.160 --> 0:06:06.600 and above. 0:06:07.440 --> 0:06:09.200 Yeah, I mean a lot of times you don't even 0:06:09.240 --> 0:06:11.240 know who we are or what we want to do 0:06:11.320 --> 0:06:14.120 until later in life. So I mean, you know, there's 0:06:14.200 --> 0:06:18.560 definitely time. You know, it's not something that you have 0:06:18.760 --> 0:06:21.560 had to figure it out when you were young. You know, 0:06:21.600 --> 0:06:25.200 it's just literally no rules, especially nowadays. 0:06:25.600 --> 0:06:28.920 Well you talk about the fifteen tried and true rules 0:06:29.000 --> 0:06:32.720 to success, right, So what are one or two that 0:06:32.800 --> 0:06:34.920 like really quickly came to you when you were writing 0:06:34.960 --> 0:06:35.400 this book. 0:06:39.160 --> 0:06:42.200 One that came really quickly was the power of the time. 0:06:42.440 --> 0:06:48.080 You know, when I was a kid, my mom used 0:06:48.120 --> 0:06:50.880 to always tell us, you know, be very mindful of 0:06:50.960 --> 0:06:51.560 the days. 0:06:51.360 --> 0:06:53.800 That you say, you know, and she was practiced what 0:06:53.880 --> 0:06:54.320 she preaves. 0:06:54.360 --> 0:06:57.280 Instead of saying, you know, this desert is to die 0:06:57.360 --> 0:07:00.279 fortune to say this desert is to live for so 0:07:00.440 --> 0:07:05.040 very early on I adopted that and started to speak 0:07:05.480 --> 0:07:08.520 my truths and my future into existence. 0:07:08.640 --> 0:07:08.800 You know. 0:07:08.800 --> 0:07:12.440 It was not life, uh, I you know, really want 0:07:12.480 --> 0:07:14.080 to be this singer one day. It was like when 0:07:14.120 --> 0:07:16.680 I become a singer and then that's just how I 0:07:16.800 --> 0:07:20.560 learned to speak. So that was something that came from 0:07:20.600 --> 0:07:24.160 from my upbringing, you know, being uh you know, a 0:07:24.200 --> 0:07:26.400 young Christian man. I mean, it was it was something 0:07:26.440 --> 0:07:30.600 that we were brought up on, so that was was 0:07:30.640 --> 0:07:32.840 a really easy one. 0:07:33.240 --> 0:07:36.840 But I adopted it so much so that I started 0:07:36.840 --> 0:07:39.160 to believe it myself, you know. And you have a 0:07:39.160 --> 0:07:39.960 trillion cells in. 0:07:39.960 --> 0:07:43.200 Your body, and when you speak to your to your body, 0:07:43.240 --> 0:07:46.320 your body really listens. So I'm going to act differently, right, 0:07:46.400 --> 0:07:48.240 and when I wake up in the morning, I'm gonna 0:07:48.280 --> 0:07:50.680 wake up as somebody who was on the on the 0:07:51.800 --> 0:07:53.640 journey of someone who's gonna be on the. 0:07:53.840 --> 0:07:55.440 Most successful musicians of all time. 0:07:55.760 --> 0:07:59.040 I'm going to uh make sure that I'm practicing the 0:07:59.120 --> 0:08:02.000 amount of hours that one of the most successful musicians 0:08:02.040 --> 0:08:04.880 about time practice. I'm going to take all of those 0:08:04.880 --> 0:08:09.680 steps because it's no longer just a dream. It is 0:08:09.720 --> 0:08:12.920 something that is going to be in my future. And 0:08:13.000 --> 0:08:16.160 you know, it's one of those those, uh those things 0:08:16.160 --> 0:08:18.160 that I learned very early on about one of those 0:08:18.200 --> 0:08:20.240 ones that I feel like is very very. 0:08:21.600 --> 0:08:22.320 Necessary. 0:08:23.800 --> 0:08:25.400 And how do you believe it? 0:08:25.520 --> 0:08:25.640 Right? 0:08:25.680 --> 0:08:27.240 It's one thing to say it. It's one thing to 0:08:27.280 --> 0:08:29.640 put it out there and and think you believe it. 0:08:29.680 --> 0:08:32.320 But I mean, I truly, honestly feel in your core 0:08:32.360 --> 0:08:34.880 when you were growing up, you believed that you would 0:08:34.920 --> 0:08:36.720 become this huge success. 0:08:37.080 --> 0:08:39.960 I really did, man, I really did. I think it 0:08:40.120 --> 0:08:43.319 starts with just saying. 0:08:43.000 --> 0:08:47.960 It starts with just saying it. I tell people all 0:08:48.000 --> 0:08:52.400 the time. So I just had a show about four 0:08:52.480 --> 0:08:55.360 days ago, and I was a little under the weather, 0:08:55.440 --> 0:08:58.200 and you know, it was really tough to get out 0:08:58.240 --> 0:09:00.960 of bed even what I was thinking about. 0:09:01.040 --> 0:09:02.400 You know, all the people that. 0:09:02.640 --> 0:09:05.439 You know spent all their hard earned money and wanted 0:09:05.480 --> 0:09:07.040 to come to the show. So there was no way 0:09:07.080 --> 0:09:11.400 I was going to cancel the show. But the simple 0:09:11.480 --> 0:09:16.880 thing as putting a smile on my face, even when 0:09:16.880 --> 0:09:20.120 I did not want to smile, I started to just smile, 0:09:20.520 --> 0:09:24.040 and instantly my body started to react to that smile 0:09:24.559 --> 0:09:27.760 and I started to feel different, you know. So it's 0:09:28.000 --> 0:09:30.320 one of those things like you when you start to 0:09:30.640 --> 0:09:31.400 speak something. 0:09:31.720 --> 0:09:33.840 When you start to say. 0:09:33.640 --> 0:09:38.160 It, you'll eventually start to move it, you know, but 0:09:38.240 --> 0:09:40.400 you have to keep on doing it over and over 0:09:40.559 --> 0:09:41.559 and over and over again. 0:09:41.760 --> 0:09:45.240 It's not going to happen overnight, but it will happen 0:09:45.240 --> 0:09:45.720 to visually. 0:09:46.080 --> 0:09:48.120 So you start to see it and you start to 0:09:48.160 --> 0:09:50.839 do the things within your life that is leading to 0:09:51.320 --> 0:09:55.840 wherever that that end goal is, and you know your 0:09:55.880 --> 0:09:58.040 body will start to slowly believe. 0:09:57.720 --> 0:10:08.760 It and getting out of bed. That story of you 0:10:08.880 --> 0:10:11.400 having to push through not feeling great to deliver that 0:10:11.480 --> 0:10:14.840 show reminds me of something else you said, which was 0:10:14.920 --> 0:10:19.040 that obstacles are a chance for opportunities, right for sure? 0:10:19.120 --> 0:10:19.480 For sure? 0:10:20.240 --> 0:10:22.880 I mean, can you get any more poetic than that? 0:10:22.880 --> 0:10:24.079 That's freaking brilliant. 0:10:25.240 --> 0:10:25.480 Yeah. 0:10:25.520 --> 0:10:29.400 Man, I think at my in my lowest moments, where 0:10:29.440 --> 0:10:32.960 the moments where I thrived the most, you know, thinking 0:10:32.960 --> 0:10:36.560 back by moments like when I broke my neck in 0:10:36.600 --> 0:10:42.200 two thousand and fourteen, fifteen one of the two I 0:10:42.240 --> 0:10:44.280 broke my c two vertebrate and it was. 0:10:44.240 --> 0:10:44.920 A very. 0:10:46.320 --> 0:10:48.680 Could have been a very dark moment, as you can imagine. 0:10:48.760 --> 0:10:52.120 It was a Hayman's break. So most of the time 0:10:52.160 --> 0:10:55.760 when somebody has that break is you know, you end 0:10:55.840 --> 0:11:01.160 up being a preparaplegic or worse. And for me, I 0:11:01.679 --> 0:11:07.680 came out very different, thankfully. But I couldn't time I 0:11:07.679 --> 0:11:10.880 owned shoe, I couldn't bathe myself. 0:11:10.720 --> 0:11:12.119 I couldn't clothe myself. 0:11:12.679 --> 0:11:16.040 It was a very strange time and a very you know, 0:11:16.480 --> 0:11:20.439 very I would say, a dark time. Yeah, But in 0:11:21.160 --> 0:11:25.920 that time I started to rely on. 0:11:28.679 --> 0:11:33.040 Started to rely on my routine, you know. 0:11:33.120 --> 0:11:35.960 So instead of being down on myself, I woke up 0:11:35.960 --> 0:11:37.440 at the same time every single day. 0:11:38.000 --> 0:11:39.559 I tried to do what. 0:11:39.760 --> 0:11:44.800 Little physical therapy that I could do at the same 0:11:44.880 --> 0:11:47.240 time for the same amount of time every day. Then 0:11:47.840 --> 0:11:51.120 then I wrote music for the same amount of time 0:11:51.160 --> 0:11:53.240 every single day. So it was like that was my 0:11:53.360 --> 0:11:56.280 craft and I was going to work from this time 0:11:56.320 --> 0:11:59.280 for this time every single day. It didn't matter if 0:11:59.320 --> 0:12:01.600 I felt good, if I didn't feel good, I had 0:12:01.600 --> 0:12:03.680 to put in those amount of hours. So it was 0:12:03.720 --> 0:12:06.000 not about if I felt prolific that day or if 0:12:06.040 --> 0:12:08.400 I felt like down. I was going to do my 0:12:08.480 --> 0:12:10.600 hours and I went to bed at the same time 0:12:10.960 --> 0:12:12.280 and did rent repeat. 0:12:12.320 --> 0:12:13.959 It is the same thing over and over and over 0:12:14.000 --> 0:12:18.240 and over and over. But when I looked up one day, 0:12:18.400 --> 0:12:25.000 I had written one of my most famous projects. You know. 0:12:25.000 --> 0:12:27.920 It was a tough, dirty album and that album have 0:12:28.000 --> 0:12:31.280 flat five platinum songs on there, and it was in 0:12:31.360 --> 0:12:32.160 a time. 0:12:31.960 --> 0:12:34.840 Where it was a very dark time in my life, 0:12:35.200 --> 0:12:35.440 you know. 0:12:35.520 --> 0:12:38.640 So I say that to say that obstacles sometimes, you know, 0:12:38.800 --> 0:12:40.040 can be that blessing. 0:12:41.240 --> 0:12:43.920 I think that's such a cool way to look at life, right. 0:12:43.920 --> 0:12:47.120 We all go through really tough times in our lives, 0:12:47.120 --> 0:12:50.320 and some people by default kind of crawling the ball 0:12:50.400 --> 0:12:52.480 and cave and they're not sure how to put one 0:12:52.520 --> 0:12:55.319 foot in front of the other. For those kinds of 0:12:55.320 --> 0:12:57.400 people who are listening and say, man, I want to 0:12:57.400 --> 0:13:00.320 be more like Jason, like that is such a badass mentality. 0:13:00.600 --> 0:13:01.480 How do you get there? 0:13:03.160 --> 0:13:07.920 It's just by creating your routine, you know. And sometimes 0:13:07.960 --> 0:13:09.600 you don't want to get up and go do what 0:13:09.640 --> 0:13:12.040 you're supposed to do, right, And sometimes you do. You're like, 0:13:12.120 --> 0:13:14.640 this is my passion. I love to do this, That's 0:13:14.679 --> 0:13:15.640 why I want to do it. 0:13:15.840 --> 0:13:21.960 But you can't. The problem sometimes is that we're start. 0:13:21.800 --> 0:13:25.440 Negotiating with ourselves, right, and it's like, Okay, if I don't, 0:13:25.480 --> 0:13:27.440 if I don't go get up and work out today, 0:13:27.559 --> 0:13:30.480 tomorrow gonna go twice as hard, you know what I'm saying. 0:13:30.640 --> 0:13:31.240 But you can't. 0:13:31.320 --> 0:13:35.160 You can't have those negotiations. It has to be non negotiable. 0:13:35.520 --> 0:13:38.599 So like when you set your routine, your routine is 0:13:38.640 --> 0:13:41.400 your routine, no matter what you know, and you cannot 0:13:41.600 --> 0:13:41.960 miss it. 0:13:42.080 --> 0:13:42.640 You can't. 0:13:42.840 --> 0:13:45.920 You can't sway from it. Your routine is your routine. 0:13:46.040 --> 0:13:47.920 You can't say I'm going to just go twice as 0:13:47.960 --> 0:13:50.400 hard tomorrow. No, you got to do it today because 0:13:50.440 --> 0:13:53.920 it's a non negotiable. And when you when you lean 0:13:54.200 --> 0:13:56.520 on the routine, when you look up one day, it's 0:13:56.520 --> 0:13:58.720 it's gonna be like, damn, I'm so much closer to 0:13:58.760 --> 0:14:00.600 my goal than when I started. 0:14:00.800 --> 0:14:02.760 So that was one of your lows to tell me 0:14:02.800 --> 0:14:05.719 about one of your all time highs. And then what 0:14:05.720 --> 0:14:06.520 did I feel like? 0:14:13.760 --> 0:14:16.920 My favorite moments, man, are are moments in the grind? 0:14:17.080 --> 0:14:21.200 You know? I wish I could be like it was 0:14:21.280 --> 0:14:22.120 like when I got this. 0:14:22.120 --> 0:14:24.360 Accolade or when I sold this in my I mean, 0:14:24.400 --> 0:14:27.880 it's really not anything like that. My favorite moments in 0:14:27.920 --> 0:14:32.360 the world is writing music. So I remember, uh. 0:14:32.000 --> 0:14:32.640 It being. 0:14:33.960 --> 0:14:37.400 Four in the morning and I wanted to go to bed, 0:14:37.480 --> 0:14:38.800 and my friend that I was with it. 0:14:38.880 --> 0:14:41.600 Was like, let's write one more song. I was like, man, 0:14:41.600 --> 0:14:42.960 I'm trying. I'm trying to go to bed. 0:14:43.240 --> 0:14:45.720 I don't think I'm gonna be worth anything if I 0:14:45.760 --> 0:14:47.119 write another song is probably. 0:14:46.880 --> 0:14:49.080 Not gonna be good. So it's like we might voice 0:14:49.120 --> 0:14:52.280 go to bed. It was like, come on, man, one more. 0:14:52.640 --> 0:14:55.080 Four in the morning, and I'm like, a cool So 0:14:55.120 --> 0:15:01.239 we're going through the beats, and I'm like, these basic trash, 0:15:01.800 --> 0:15:06.640 So we picked the beat that, uh we thought it 0:15:06.720 --> 0:15:13.080 was least trash. And and then I ended up writing 0:15:13.120 --> 0:15:17.120 a song called writing Solo, and it a song. 0:15:17.560 --> 0:15:18.200 Thank you Man. 0:15:18.240 --> 0:15:21.360 And it was a song that had really real meaning 0:15:21.400 --> 0:15:25.080 in my life, and it was it was something that 0:15:25.120 --> 0:15:27.080 I didn't think was going to happen because I was 0:15:27.080 --> 0:15:31.720 so tired, you know. And and in that moment, I learned 0:15:31.720 --> 0:15:38.440 that the non negotiables matter because I could have missed 0:15:38.440 --> 0:15:40.200 out on that blessing. I could have missed out on 0:15:40.240 --> 0:15:43.120 that opportunity if I was like, oh, I'm just gonna 0:15:43.160 --> 0:15:43.600 go to bed. 0:15:44.080 --> 0:15:48.560 But thank god my friend was there because. 0:15:48.440 --> 0:15:52.040 You know, he he uh, he pushed, He pushed the envelope, 0:15:52.080 --> 0:15:54.000 you know. And that's the reason why I stayed. It 0:15:54.040 --> 0:15:58.520 wasn't it wasn't myself. It was honestly him and. 0:15:59.840 --> 0:16:00.080 I. 0:16:00.200 --> 0:16:02.400 But from that moment on, I learned that I can't 0:16:02.640 --> 0:16:05.600 only just work when I feel up to it, you know. 0:16:05.760 --> 0:16:09.400 I have to work because it's an amount of time 0:16:09.680 --> 0:16:11.960 that I set for myself. This is I'm gonna work 0:16:11.960 --> 0:16:14.480 from this time to this time. So it's not like 0:16:14.760 --> 0:16:17.680 only when I feel like, oh, this is good. You know, 0:16:17.720 --> 0:16:20.160 this is a good time to work. But those are 0:16:20.160 --> 0:16:21.800 one of my favorite stories. You know, this is one 0:16:21.840 --> 0:16:25.520 of my highlight moments, you know, Like I mean, I 0:16:25.560 --> 0:16:27.920 have all sorts of those, but my favorite moments are 0:16:27.960 --> 0:16:30.240 in the grind, especially when I'm making music. 0:16:31.040 --> 0:16:33.240 Something tells me it's very hard for you to turn 0:16:33.320 --> 0:16:36.120 off your mind, your I feel like your creativity is 0:16:36.120 --> 0:16:37.160 always going. 0:16:38.240 --> 0:16:41.400 For sure, for sure. Man, I love creating. I love 0:16:41.760 --> 0:16:43.000 creating something from nothing. 0:16:43.080 --> 0:16:48.360 So whether it's uh, you know, interior design for real estate, 0:16:48.440 --> 0:16:53.360 whether it's content for socials, whether it's music, I just 0:16:53.400 --> 0:16:54.000 love creating. 0:16:54.720 --> 0:16:57.920 Well in this book gives you the tools to be 0:16:58.000 --> 0:17:00.520 able to be your best creator, which I think is 0:17:00.560 --> 0:17:04.080 so cool. It's also part memoir. Was there something that 0:17:04.240 --> 0:17:07.600 was harder than other areas of the book for you 0:17:07.640 --> 0:17:09.840 to write down and actually like put out in vapor 0:17:09.880 --> 0:17:18.640 and put out into the world. 0:17:18.440 --> 0:17:21.119 I talk about some of my failures within the book, 0:17:21.160 --> 0:17:23.560 and I don't think that's a very normal thing to 0:17:23.680 --> 0:17:27.960 have done. I debated on putting certain things in there, 0:17:28.000 --> 0:17:30.560 but I wanted to be as real as possible, you know, 0:17:30.800 --> 0:17:36.400 And I talked about failures of businesses that I had, 0:17:36.480 --> 0:17:39.439 you know, two companies in particular that I had that 0:17:39.480 --> 0:17:41.280 didn't work out. You know, I was following in the 0:17:41.280 --> 0:17:45.639 footsteps of people who musicians before me and trying to 0:17:45.720 --> 0:17:48.760 do the business things that they did, and just because 0:17:48.800 --> 0:17:50.520 it was successful for them, this doesn't mean it was 0:17:50.520 --> 0:17:53.000 going to be successful for me. But I thought it 0:17:53.040 --> 0:17:56.320 was important for me to put my failure, my failures 0:17:56.359 --> 0:17:59.439 in there so that people understand that it's you know, 0:17:59.480 --> 0:18:01.000 it's not happy days. 0:18:01.200 --> 0:18:03.600 You know. I have very successful companies. 0:18:03.240 --> 0:18:06.399 Now that that thrive, but I have been through the 0:18:06.560 --> 0:18:10.800 failure after failure as well, and I think it's important 0:18:10.800 --> 0:18:11.560 to know both sides. 0:18:11.600 --> 0:18:11.760 You know. 0:18:11.800 --> 0:18:14.560 I think far too often when we see people that 0:18:14.600 --> 0:18:18.280 are successful in business or anything else, right, we think 0:18:18.320 --> 0:18:21.320 that the road is just like smooth sailing, but not 0:18:22.840 --> 0:18:26.119 I have had failures that I've learned from so that 0:18:26.200 --> 0:18:28.719 I can be the success that I am today, because 0:18:29.000 --> 0:18:30.920 I don't think without those failures, if like I would 0:18:31.240 --> 0:18:34.600 like hit it big from from the from the top, 0:18:34.760 --> 0:18:35.000 you know. 0:18:34.960 --> 0:18:36.840 As a businessman, I don't think I would I would 0:18:36.880 --> 0:18:37.720 know these tools. 0:18:37.880 --> 0:18:40.240 So I had to fail to kind of you know, 0:18:40.480 --> 0:18:42.920 understand the landscape of business. 0:18:43.520 --> 0:18:45.320 But you're not afraid to fail. You don't strike me 0:18:45.359 --> 0:18:46.600 as someone afraid to do that. 0:18:47.560 --> 0:18:48.080 Definitely not. 0:18:48.280 --> 0:18:50.919 And I think once you once you failed, you know, 0:18:51.359 --> 0:18:53.679 you get you get a little less afraid of it. 0:18:53.880 --> 0:18:54.080 You know. 0:18:54.320 --> 0:18:56.119 You you kind of got to prepare. You got to 0:18:56.200 --> 0:18:58.040 kind of prepare for the for the worst as well. 0:18:59.680 --> 0:19:11.800 Hm, You've had such a insanely brilliant career. You put 0:19:11.800 --> 0:19:14.280 in the work, You deserve everything that's come your way. 0:19:14.760 --> 0:19:17.560 How is the Jason Derulo from two thousand and nine 0:19:17.640 --> 0:19:20.399 when that first smash hit what you say came out 0:19:20.440 --> 0:19:23.040 different from the Jason today. 0:19:23.880 --> 0:19:27.760 I think the biggest change is me growing up as 0:19:27.800 --> 0:19:28.120 a man. 0:19:28.280 --> 0:19:29.639 You know, I was, I was a kid in that 0:19:29.760 --> 0:19:31.280 song came out, and I was trying to figure out 0:19:31.320 --> 0:19:34.320 my way, and I was trying to do anything to 0:19:34.400 --> 0:19:38.119 be successful, you know whatever it was like, I was 0:19:38.160 --> 0:19:42.240 going to do that, like whatever it took, and even 0:19:42.240 --> 0:19:45.600 if it meant me not being myself necessarily. And I 0:19:45.640 --> 0:19:48.159 talked about that in the book as well, and trying 0:19:48.200 --> 0:19:54.399 to follow in other people's footsteps to try to to 0:19:54.480 --> 0:19:58.760 try to see what success was exactly right when Yeah, 0:19:58.760 --> 0:20:02.840 when you're a teenager man, you don't know the proper 0:20:02.880 --> 0:20:03.720 steps to take. 0:20:04.320 --> 0:20:05.480 So my. 0:20:07.160 --> 0:20:11.520 Instinct was to look at other successful people and see 0:20:11.600 --> 0:20:13.520