1 00:00:02,080 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: Hey, guys, welcome to I've never said this before with me, 2 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 1: Tommy Di Dario, I am pretty confident in saying that 3 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:12,879 Speaker 1: you have jammed out to today's guest while either driving 4 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 1: in your car, or maybe working out and breaking a sweat, 5 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:18,880 Speaker 1: or while just dancing with your friends. I'm raising my 6 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 1: hand because I am in the category of accomplishing all 7 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 1: three of those. The award winning singer, songwriter, entrepreneur, and 8 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 1: now author Jason Derulo is hanging out with me today now. 9 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:35,479 Speaker 1: Jason is easily one of the most dynamic forces on 10 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:39,280 Speaker 1: the global pop landscape. Period. He has sold over two 11 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:43,839 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty million singles worldwide and achieved fifteen platinum 12 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 1: singles since the start of his solo recording career back 13 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:50,240 Speaker 1: in two thousand and nine. His music has earned get 14 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 1: ready for It over eighteen point two billion streams. He 15 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 1: has even become one of TikTok's biggest superstars, currently the 16 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 1: fourth most followed mail on the entire platform, which I 17 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 1: think is pretty damn cool because it's really become a 18 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:06,320 Speaker 1: place where he can connect with his fans, and he 19 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 1: prioritizes that time. It's very important to him. Now on 20 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 1: top of all of his musical brilliance. Jason has a 21 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 1: new book out, part self help, part memoir called Sing 22 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 1: Your Name Out Loud, in which he shares his fifteen 23 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:22,400 Speaker 1: rules for finding success in any pursuit, and he invites 24 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 1: everyone yourself included, especially artists and creators and creative minds alike, 25 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:30,959 Speaker 1: to start on their path to greatness. As he says, 26 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 1: and let me tell you, Jason has some incredible pieces 27 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 1: of advice to share that are going to just leave 28 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 1: you feeling so inspired and ready to take on the world. 29 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 1: So let's see if today we can get Jason to 30 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 1: say something that he's never said before. Jason, my man, 31 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 1: how you doing today? 32 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 2: Oh man, amazing, amazing? How about yourself? 33 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 1: I'm awesome. Thank you for joining the show. Listen before 34 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 1: we dive in, I have got to tell you that 35 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 1: you are responsible for two years of my life making 36 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 1: me feel like I was in a music video every 37 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 1: day that I woke up. 38 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:08,679 Speaker 2: Oh word, how so well? 39 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 1: Two thousand and nine Gossip Girl like the show that 40 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 1: took over the world. Your first smash hit. What you 41 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 1: say was in this like epic dramatic Thanksgiving scene where 42 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:21,360 Speaker 1: everybody was fighting and you know, throwing fists on the 43 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 1: table and pushing their chair out to the beat of 44 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 1: your music. And I went to bed that night and 45 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:28,520 Speaker 1: I woke up the next day like imagining myself in 46 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 1: ten million scenarios thinking I'm in a music video. So 47 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 1: thank you for that. You clouded my mind for two years. 48 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 2: I love it, love it. 49 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 1: It was awesome. So humble, brag on your behalf. Okay, 50 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:43,920 Speaker 1: you have sold over two hundred and fifty million singles. 51 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 1: You are one of is it six artists that have 52 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 1: had a number one hit in three different decades? Is 53 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 1: that right? 54 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:51,519 Speaker 2: That's right. 55 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:55,359 Speaker 1: I mean the accolades, they go on and on and 56 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 1: on and fast forward to today. You have a brand 57 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:02,639 Speaker 1: new book out that is absolutely fantastic. It's called Sing 58 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:05,960 Speaker 1: Your Name Out Loud. Tell me about this book. 59 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:11,799 Speaker 2: Really exciting, man. I wanted to write this book because 60 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:12,959 Speaker 2: there's a lot of dreamers. 61 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 3: Out there that are giving up their dreams for what 62 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:19,520 Speaker 3: they feel like they should be doing. 63 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 2: You know, I feel like we have this kind of 64 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:26,640 Speaker 2: we built the system where. 65 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 3: We're supposed to, you know, go to high school, then 66 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 3: you know, go to college and get a trade, and 67 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 3: you know, it's that that's kind of like the norm 68 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 3: and there's a lot of dreamers. There's a lot of 69 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 3: creative people out there. There's just so many talented people 70 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 3: out there that are just giving up their dream because 71 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 3: they feel like they have to do a specific thing. 72 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 2: So I wanted to write some sort. 73 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 4: Of of handbook, you know, that could be an aid, 74 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 4: you know, that could be a support system to these 75 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 4: dreamers out there, because I mean, for myself, if I 76 00:03:58,640 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 4: would have had. 77 00:03:59,240 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 2: Some sort of. 78 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 3: Handbook myself, if I would have bought my head a 79 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 3: lot less times, and you know, if I was ever 80 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 3: feeling a certain kind of way, I could turn to 81 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 3: this you know, handbook and you know, get some help 82 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 3: or try to figure out a question that I had 83 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 3: by looking within this book. So I, you know, took 84 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 3: a part in my life and tried to figure out 85 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 3: what I thought were the fifteen rules that. 86 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 2: Got me to be successful, you know, got me to 87 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 2: where I am today, you. 88 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 3: Know, not just in music, but in business and with 89 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:36,480 Speaker 3: social media as well. What are those fifteen rules that 90 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 3: apply to success in all facets, you know, and not 91 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 3: just one. 92 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:46,599 Speaker 1: And I don't know if there's been really any other 93 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:49,360 Speaker 1: musicians who have come out with this sort of self 94 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 1: help book, right Uh no, not that I know of. 95 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 1: So was that something that just felt really natural for you? 96 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:00,920 Speaker 3: It did, man, and it was it was a very 97 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:05,279 Speaker 3: selfless actor. I didn't do it for anybody else but 98 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:07,039 Speaker 3: young Jason Derulo. 99 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:11,360 Speaker 2: You know. I went that that young dreamer. 100 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:13,479 Speaker 3: Out there to be able to have something to hold 101 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 3: on to, and not just young, right. I mean, I 102 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:18,840 Speaker 3: think there's also a lot of older dreamers that feel 103 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:21,600 Speaker 3: like it's too late, you know. And I don't think 104 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 3: that's the fact that that's the fact of the matter 105 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:27,240 Speaker 3: at all. It's never too late to start, especially in 106 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 3: twenty twenty three with how socials has kind of changed 107 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 3: the world. 108 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:35,920 Speaker 2: So you just kind of beat this ball, right, it's 109 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 2: my dog. 110 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 1: We love a dog, cameo. Sure, this is Ice Ice. 111 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 3: He's literally right right next to me, just just chomping 112 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 3: on his book ball. 113 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 1: That's amazing. Well, I love that you just hit on 114 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:56,680 Speaker 1: that too, man, because a lot of people think your 115 00:05:56,760 --> 00:06:00,280 Speaker 1: dreams and your successes have to be twenties thirties. But 116 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 1: there's so many people CEOs, billionaires, I mean, the list 117 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 1: goes on and on that hit their sweetest success fifty 118 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:06,600 Speaker 1: and above. 119 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean a lot of times you don't even 120 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 3: know who we are or what we want to do 121 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 3: until later in life. So I mean, you know, there's 122 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 3: definitely time. You know, it's not something that you have 123 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 3: had to figure it out when you were young. You know, 124 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 3: it's just literally no rules, especially nowadays. 125 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:28,920 Speaker 1: Well you talk about the fifteen tried and true rules 126 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:32,720 Speaker 1: to success, right, So what are one or two that 127 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:34,920 Speaker 1: like really quickly came to you when you were writing 128 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 1: this book. 129 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 2: One that came really quickly was the power of the time. 130 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 3: You know, when I was a kid, my mom used 131 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 3: to always tell us, you know, be very mindful of 132 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 3: the days. 133 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 2: That you say, you know, and she was practiced what 134 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 2: she preaves. 135 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:57,280 Speaker 3: Instead of saying, you know, this desert is to die 136 00:06:57,360 --> 00:07:00,279 Speaker 3: fortune to say this desert is to live for so 137 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:05,040 Speaker 3: very early on I adopted that and started to speak 138 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 3: my truths and my future into existence. 139 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:08,800 Speaker 2: You know. 140 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 3: It was not life, uh, I you know, really want 141 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 3: to be this singer one day. It was like when 142 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 3: I become a singer and then that's just how I 143 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 3: learned to speak. So that was something that came from 144 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 3: from my upbringing, you know, being uh you know, a 145 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 3: young Christian man. I mean, it was it was something 146 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 3: that we were brought up on, so that was was 147 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 3: a really easy one. 148 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 2: But I adopted it so much so that I started 149 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 2: to believe it myself, you know. And you have a 150 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 2: trillion cells in. 151 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 3: Your body, and when you speak to your to your body, 152 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 3: your body really listens. So I'm going to act differently, right, 153 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 3: and when I wake up in the morning, I'm gonna 154 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 3: wake up as somebody who was on the on the 155 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 3: journey of someone who's gonna be on the. 156 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 2: Most successful musicians of all time. 157 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 3: I'm going to uh make sure that I'm practicing the 158 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 3: amount of hours that one of the most successful musicians 159 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 3: about time practice. I'm going to take all of those 160 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 3: steps because it's no longer just a dream. It is 161 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 3: something that is going to be in my future. And 162 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 3: you know, it's one of those those, uh those things 163 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 3: that I learned very early on about one of those 164 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 3: ones that I feel like is very very. 165 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 2: Necessary. 166 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 1: And how do you believe it? 167 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 2: Right? 168 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 1: It's one thing to say it. It's one thing to 169 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 1: put it out there and and think you believe it. 170 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:32,320 Speaker 1: But I mean, I truly, honestly feel in your core 171 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 1: when you were growing up, you believed that you would 172 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 1: become this huge success. 173 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:39,960 Speaker 2: I really did, man, I really did. I think it 174 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:43,319 Speaker 2: starts with just saying. 175 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:47,960 Speaker 3: It starts with just saying it. I tell people all 176 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 3: the time. So I just had a show about four 177 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 3: days ago, and I was a little under the weather, 178 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:58,200 Speaker 3: and you know, it was really tough to get out 179 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:00,960 Speaker 3: of bed even what I was thinking about. 180 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 2: You know, all the people that. 181 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:05,439 Speaker 3: You know spent all their hard earned money and wanted 182 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 3: to come to the show. So there was no way 183 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 3: I was going to cancel the show. But the simple 184 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 3: thing as putting a smile on my face, even when 185 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 3: I did not want to smile, I started to just smile, 186 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 3: and instantly my body started to react to that smile 187 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 3: and I started to feel different, you know. So it's 188 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:30,320 Speaker 3: one of those things like you when you start to 189 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 3: speak something. 190 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:33,840 Speaker 2: When you start to say. 191 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 3: It, you'll eventually start to move it, you know, but 192 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 3: you have to keep on doing it over and over 193 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:41,559 Speaker 3: and over and over again. 194 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 2: It's not going to happen overnight, but it will happen 195 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 2: to visually. 196 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 3: So you start to see it and you start to 197 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:50,839 Speaker 3: do the things within your life that is leading to 198 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:55,840 Speaker 3: wherever that that end goal is, and you know your 199 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 3: body will start to slowly believe. 200 00:09:57,720 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 1: It and getting out of bed. That story of you 201 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 1: having to push through not feeling great to deliver that 202 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:14,840 Speaker 1: show reminds me of something else you said, which was 203 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 1: that obstacles are a chance for opportunities, right for sure? 204 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 2: For sure? 205 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 1: I mean, can you get any more poetic than that? 206 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:24,079 Speaker 1: That's freaking brilliant. 207 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 2: Yeah. 208 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 3: Man, I think at my in my lowest moments, where 209 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:32,960 Speaker 3: the moments where I thrived the most, you know, thinking 210 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:36,560 Speaker 3: back by moments like when I broke my neck in 211 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:42,200 Speaker 3: two thousand and fourteen, fifteen one of the two I 212 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 3: broke my c two vertebrate and it was. 213 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 2: A very. 214 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:48,680 Speaker 3: Could have been a very dark moment, as you can imagine. 215 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 3: It was a Hayman's break. So most of the time 216 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 3: when somebody has that break is you know, you end 217 00:10:55,840 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 3: up being a preparaplegic or worse. And for me, I 218 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:07,680 Speaker 3: came out very different, thankfully. But I couldn't time I 219 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 3: owned shoe, I couldn't bathe myself. 220 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:12,119 Speaker 2: I couldn't clothe myself. 221 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 3: It was a very strange time and a very you know, 222 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:20,439 Speaker 3: very I would say, a dark time. Yeah, But in 223 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 3: that time I started to rely on. 224 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 2: Started to rely on my routine, you know. 225 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:35,960 Speaker 3: So instead of being down on myself, I woke up 226 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:37,440 Speaker 3: at the same time every single day. 227 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:39,559 Speaker 2: I tried to do what. 228 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 3: Little physical therapy that I could do at the same 229 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 3: time for the same amount of time every day. Then 230 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 3: then I wrote music for the same amount of time 231 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 3: every single day. So it was like that was my 232 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 3: craft and I was going to work from this time 233 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 3: for this time every single day. It didn't matter if 234 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:01,600 Speaker 3: I felt good, if I didn't feel good, I had 235 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:03,680 Speaker 3: to put in those amount of hours. So it was 236 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 3: not about if I felt prolific that day or if 237 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 3: I felt like down. I was going to do my 238 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 3: hours and I went to bed at the same time 239 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 3: and did rent repeat. 240 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:13,959 Speaker 2: It is the same thing over and over and over 241 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 2: and over and over. But when I looked up one day, 242 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 2: I had written one of my most famous projects. You know. 243 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 3: It was a tough, dirty album and that album have 244 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 3: flat five platinum songs on there, and it was in 245 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 3: a time. 246 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:34,840 Speaker 2: Where it was a very dark time in my life, 247 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:35,440 Speaker 2: you know. 248 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 3: So I say that to say that obstacles sometimes, you know, 249 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 3: can be that blessing. 250 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 1: I think that's such a cool way to look at life, right. 251 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 1: We all go through really tough times in our lives, 252 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:50,320 Speaker 1: and some people by default kind of crawling the ball 253 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 1: and cave and they're not sure how to put one 254 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:55,319 Speaker 1: foot in front of the other. For those kinds of 255 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 1: people who are listening and say, man, I want to 256 00:12:57,400 --> 00:13:00,320 Speaker 1: be more like Jason, like that is such a badass mentality. 257 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 1: How do you get there? 258 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 3: It's just by creating your routine, you know. And sometimes 259 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 3: you don't want to get up and go do what 260 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 3: you're supposed to do, right, And sometimes you do. You're like, 261 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 3: this is my passion. I love to do this, That's 262 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 3: why I want to do it. 263 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:21,960 Speaker 2: But you can't. The problem sometimes is that we're start. 264 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:25,440 Speaker 3: Negotiating with ourselves, right, and it's like, Okay, if I don't, 265 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:27,440 Speaker 3: if I don't go get up and work out today, 266 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 3: tomorrow gonna go twice as hard, you know what I'm saying. 267 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 2: But you can't. 268 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 3: You can't have those negotiations. It has to be non negotiable. 269 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:38,599 Speaker 3: So like when you set your routine, your routine is 270 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 3: your routine, no matter what you know, and you cannot 271 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:41,960 Speaker 3: miss it. 272 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 2: You can't. 273 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 3: You can't sway from it. Your routine is your routine. 274 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 3: You can't say I'm going to just go twice as 275 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 3: hard tomorrow. No, you got to do it today because 276 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 3: it's a non negotiable. And when you when you lean 277 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 3: on the routine, when you look up one day, it's 278 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:58,720 Speaker 3: it's gonna be like, damn, I'm so much closer to 279 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 3: my goal than when I started. 280 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 1: So that was one of your lows to tell me 281 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:05,719 Speaker 1: about one of your all time highs. And then what 282 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 1: did I feel like? 283 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 3: My favorite moments, man, are are moments in the grind? 284 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 2: You know? I wish I could be like it was 285 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 2: like when I got this. 286 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 3: Accolade or when I sold this in my I mean, 287 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 3: it's really not anything like that. My favorite moments in 288 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 3: the world is writing music. So I remember, uh. 289 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 2: It being. 290 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 3: Four in the morning and I wanted to go to bed, 291 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 3: and my friend that I was with it. 292 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 2: Was like, let's write one more song. I was like, man, 293 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 2: I'm trying. I'm trying to go to bed. 294 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 3: I don't think I'm gonna be worth anything if I 295 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:47,119 Speaker 3: write another song is probably. 296 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 2: Not gonna be good. So it's like we might voice 297 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 2: go to bed. It was like, come on, man, one more. 298 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 3: Four in the morning, and I'm like, a cool So 299 00:14:55,120 --> 00:15:01,239 Speaker 3: we're going through the beats, and I'm like, these basic trash, 300 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 3: So we picked the beat that, uh we thought it 301 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:13,080 Speaker 3: was least trash. And and then I ended up writing 302 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 3: a song called writing Solo, and it a song. 303 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 2: Thank you Man. 304 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 3: And it was a song that had really real meaning 305 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:25,080 Speaker 3: in my life, and it was it was something that 306 00:15:25,120 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 3: I didn't think was going to happen because I was 307 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:31,720 Speaker 3: so tired, you know. And and in that moment, I learned 308 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 3: that the non negotiables matter because I could have missed 309 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 3: out on that blessing. I could have missed out on 310 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 3: that opportunity if I was like, oh, I'm just gonna 311 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 3: go to bed. 312 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:48,560 Speaker 2: But thank god my friend was there because. 313 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 3: You know, he he uh, he pushed, He pushed the envelope, 314 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 3: you know. And that's the reason why I stayed. It 315 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 3: wasn't it wasn't myself. It was honestly him and. 316 00:15:59,840 --> 00:16:00,080 Speaker 2: I. 317 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 3: But from that moment on, I learned that I can't 318 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 3: only just work when I feel up to it, you know. 319 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 3: I have to work because it's an amount of time 320 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 3: that I set for myself. This is I'm gonna work 321 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 3: from this time to this time. So it's not like 322 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 3: only when I feel like, oh, this is good. You know, 323 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 3: this is a good time to work. But those are 324 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 3: one of my favorite stories. You know, this is one 325 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 3: of my highlight moments, you know, Like I mean, I 326 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 3: have all sorts of those, but my favorite moments are 327 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 3: in the grind, especially when I'm making music. 328 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 1: Something tells me it's very hard for you to turn 329 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 1: off your mind, your I feel like your creativity is 330 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:37,160 Speaker 1: always going. 331 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 2: For sure, for sure. Man, I love creating. I love 332 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 2: creating something from nothing. 333 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 3: So whether it's uh, you know, interior design for real estate, 334 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 3: whether it's content for socials, whether it's music, I just 335 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 3: love creating. 336 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:57,920 Speaker 1: Well in this book gives you the tools to be 337 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 1: able to be your best creator, which I think is 338 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 1: so cool. It's also part memoir. Was there something that 339 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 1: was harder than other areas of the book for you 340 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 1: to write down and actually like put out in vapor 341 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:18,640 Speaker 1: and put out into the world. 342 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:21,119 Speaker 3: I talk about some of my failures within the book, 343 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 3: and I don't think that's a very normal thing to 344 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 3: have done. I debated on putting certain things in there, 345 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 3: but I wanted to be as real as possible, you know, 346 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:36,400 Speaker 3: And I talked about failures of businesses that I had, 347 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:39,439 Speaker 3: you know, two companies in particular that I had that 348 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 3: didn't work out. You know, I was following in the 349 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:45,639 Speaker 3: footsteps of people who musicians before me and trying to 350 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 3: do the business things that they did, and just because 351 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 3: it was successful for them, this doesn't mean it was 352 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 3: going to be successful for me. But I thought it 353 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 3: was important for me to put my failure, my failures 354 00:17:56,359 --> 00:17:59,439 Speaker 3: in there so that people understand that it's you know, 355 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 3: it's not happy days. 356 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 2: You know. I have very successful companies. 357 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:06,399 Speaker 3: Now that that thrive, but I have been through the 358 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 3: failure after failure as well, and I think it's important 359 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 3: to know both sides. 360 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:11,760 Speaker 2: You know. 361 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:14,560 Speaker 3: I think far too often when we see people that 362 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 3: are successful in business or anything else, right, we think 363 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 3: that the road is just like smooth sailing, but not 364 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:26,119 Speaker 3: I have had failures that I've learned from so that 365 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:28,719 Speaker 3: I can be the success that I am today, because 366 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:30,920 Speaker 3: I don't think without those failures, if like I would 367 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 3: like hit it big from from the from the top, 368 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:35,000 Speaker 3: you know. 369 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 2: As a businessman, I don't think I would I would 370 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:37,720 Speaker 2: know these tools. 371 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:40,240 Speaker 3: So I had to fail to kind of you know, 372 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:42,920 Speaker 3: understand the landscape of business. 373 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 1: But you're not afraid to fail. You don't strike me 374 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 1: as someone afraid to do that. 375 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 2: Definitely not. 376 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:50,919 Speaker 3: And I think once you once you failed, you know, 377 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:53,679 Speaker 3: you get you get a little less afraid of it. 378 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:54,080 Speaker 4: You know. 379 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:56,119 Speaker 2: You you kind of got to prepare. You got to 380 00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 2: kind of prepare for the for the worst as well. 381 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:11,800 Speaker 1: Hm, You've had such a insanely brilliant career. You put 382 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 1: in the work, You deserve everything that's come your way. 383 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 1: How is the Jason Derulo from two thousand and nine 384 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:20,399 Speaker 1: when that first smash hit what you say came out 385 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 1: different from the Jason today. 386 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:27,760 Speaker 2: I think the biggest change is me growing up as 387 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:28,120 Speaker 2: a man. 388 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:29,639 Speaker 3: You know, I was, I was a kid in that 389 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 3: song came out, and I was trying to figure out 390 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 3: my way, and I was trying to do anything to 391 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:38,119 Speaker 3: be successful, you know whatever it was like, I was 392 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 3: going to do that, like whatever it took, and even 393 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 3: if it meant me not being myself necessarily. And I 394 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:48,159 Speaker 3: talked about that in the book as well, and trying 395 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:54,399 Speaker 3: to follow in other people's footsteps to try to to 396 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:58,760 Speaker 3: try to see what success was exactly right when Yeah, 397 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 3: when you're a teenager man, you don't know the proper 398 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:03,720 Speaker 3: steps to take. 399 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:05,480 Speaker 2: So my. 400 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:11,520 Speaker 3: Instinct was to look at other successful people and see 401 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 3: what they did and kind of. 402 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:20,440 Speaker 2: Do my version of that. And I think I I'm 403 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 2: in a place now within my life that I've learned 404 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:27,560 Speaker 2: so much from from so many other people that now 405 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 2: I really pull for myself a lot. 406 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:33,399 Speaker 3: I really pulled from my own ideals as opposed to 407 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 3: pulling from other people so much. 408 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 1: As a kid. Did you want to be one of 409 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:39,960 Speaker 1: the biggest pop stars in the world. 410 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:43,240 Speaker 2: For sure? Undoubtedly. 411 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 3: I wanted to be able to share my music with 412 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:46,679 Speaker 3: the world right. 413 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:49,359 Speaker 2: Not just specific marketed people. 414 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:53,359 Speaker 3: I wanted to be able to go to Germany and 415 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:56,880 Speaker 3: have a concert, and be able to go to China 416 00:20:57,280 --> 00:21:00,400 Speaker 3: a concert. And that was the goal, to to make 417 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:04,080 Speaker 3: music that spoke to to the globe. 418 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:07,400 Speaker 1: And it still brings you that same excitement and then 419 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 1: same joy as when you started out. 420 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:12,960 Speaker 2: That's for sure. Man, I'm a music lover. I'm obsessed 421 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:14,040 Speaker 2: with my craft, for sure. 422 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:16,720 Speaker 1: Well, you've had so much great music coming out, even 423 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:19,920 Speaker 1: over the last you know, year, a few months for you, 424 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:22,920 Speaker 1: I imagine it's fun to see a song and put 425 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 1: it out in the world and see how the world reacts. 426 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:28,359 Speaker 1: I loved one of your most recent songs one love Sucks. 427 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:30,960 Speaker 1: That's awesome. How did that song come about with such 428 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:32,160 Speaker 1: a great collaborator. 429 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:37,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, man, so I wanted to tell this story about 430 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:44,520 Speaker 3: a toxic relationship and I wanted to utilize diitos thank you, 431 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 3: And I was like, who who could do this? This 432 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 3: whole justice, you know, And I thought of doing it 433 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 3: myself and I was like, no, I think the male 434 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 3: voice is right boom, and I thought what female could 435 00:21:57,560 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 3: do it? 436 00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:01,920 Speaker 2: And I was like, damn night, why don't I. 437 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:03,640 Speaker 3: Just actually died of it, like it, like she would 438 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:06,439 Speaker 3: like redo it, you know and do it in twenty 439 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:11,199 Speaker 3: twenty three fashion, and yeah, and hit her up and 440 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:12,520 Speaker 3: then she was all for it. 441 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 2: Man. 442 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 3: So being a huge fan of thank you, and what 443 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:21,159 Speaker 3: also what she did with uh Stan, you know, is 444 00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:23,960 Speaker 3: an honor to be able to to to work or that. 445 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 1: And it's such a catchy song. But you have this 446 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:30,200 Speaker 1: gift of being able to make something that's so meaningful 447 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 1: in a topic that so many people can relate to 448 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:34,000 Speaker 1: into a bop. 449 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:38,480 Speaker 3: Appreciate it, man, Thank you. And I was going to 450 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:42,880 Speaker 3: say is one of my favorites too, And I'm. 451 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:45,200 Speaker 2: Glad that you that you fighted about appreciate it. 452 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:47,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's awesome. So what's next for you? 453 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:47,480 Speaker 4: Man? 454 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 1: I mean, it seems like you've done it all. You've 455 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 1: you've checked it all off the list. What do you 456 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 1: want to keep doing? What's next? 457 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 2: I'm doing a lot of really cool things. 458 00:22:56,560 --> 00:23:01,960 Speaker 3: In a bit on the business side, uh So, I 459 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:06,440 Speaker 3: purchased a volleyball team in Omaha called the Supernovas and 460 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 3: this first season is coming up, which I'm really excited about. 461 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:16,879 Speaker 3: Because women's volleyball, like if you played college volleyball you 462 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:19,200 Speaker 3: have to go overseas, you would have to go overseas 463 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:20,720 Speaker 3: to play professionals. 464 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 2: We had no professional league until now. 465 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:29,480 Speaker 3: Pro Volleyball Federation is brand new, and I think it's 466 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:34,679 Speaker 3: going to be massive, man, because this is one of 467 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:38,720 Speaker 3: the sports where women are the leaders, right, and I 468 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 3: think I think that's important. Especially in today's day and age, 469 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:48,640 Speaker 3: women are proving to be as as powerful as as. 470 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:50,119 Speaker 2: Imaginable, you know. 471 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:54,879 Speaker 3: So I think having this sport on television with women 472 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:57,240 Speaker 3: leading the charge, I think it's going to be really 473 00:23:57,280 --> 00:23:59,440 Speaker 3: really important for all women's sports. 474 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:04,520 Speaker 2: So doing that, I have. 475 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:09,480 Speaker 5: A car wash company called Rocket car Wash with my 476 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:13,960 Speaker 5: partner Danny White, that we have hundreds of locations across 477 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:17,600 Speaker 5: the country, and that's really thriving and doing really well. 478 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:23,240 Speaker 3: And music music is on the horizon. Man, I have 479 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:26,320 Speaker 3: an album coming out. It's been a very long time 480 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:29,520 Speaker 3: since I've put an album out, but the album is 481 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:33,720 Speaker 3: coming in November, available for pre order in October, and 482 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:35,879 Speaker 3: it's coming alongside with a podcast. 483 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 2: I did a podcast with. 484 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:46,719 Speaker 3: Warner Brothers and the producers of Twilight Clamor, and it's 485 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:52,159 Speaker 3: really exciting because I wanted to take this album experience 486 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:55,439 Speaker 3: and turn it into something totally different this time, because 487 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:58,239 Speaker 3: I feel like a lot of people are They're just 488 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 3: waiting for the next one song, one song, and song 489 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:03,639 Speaker 3: and so onto the next song for the next. So 490 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:05,159 Speaker 3: I was like, if I'm gonna do an album, I 491 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:07,679 Speaker 3: want to do something that's gonna be totally different and 492 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 3: give some and give an experience. 493 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:15,280 Speaker 2: So uh, in me. 494 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:19,200 Speaker 3: Working out, you know, I like to watch Netflix while 495 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:22,680 Speaker 3: I'm on the treadmill, just kind of pass the time, right, 496 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:26,280 Speaker 3: But like when I start to like lift weights, I 497 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:29,080 Speaker 3: can't I can't get that same cinematic experience because I 498 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 3: obviously can't do something and then get a cinematic experience. 499 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 3: I was like, what if I created a similar experience 500 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 3: but just audio, and you can hear the experience as 501 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:44,440 Speaker 3: opposed to having to watch it. You can see it 502 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:48,720 Speaker 3: with your ears. So it was using ASMR and these 503 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:54,840 Speaker 3: incredibly talented people that I've partnered up with, We've created 504 00:25:55,200 --> 00:26:01,960 Speaker 3: an audio an audio TV show so to speak, that 505 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:07,120 Speaker 3: is I think going to change the way people, UH 506 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 3: experience music. So my music will be the backdrop to 507 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:13,880 Speaker 3: this TV show that is Ah, that is a thriller. 508 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:15,240 Speaker 2: It's a romantic thriller. 509 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:18,120 Speaker 1: Due, that's sick, and I feel like that hasn't even 510 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 1: been done before. 511 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:21,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, not, it hasn't, man. 512 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 3: And I have fantastic actors and actresses that have you know, 513 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:30,440 Speaker 3: graced us, you know with with their talents and brilliant, 514 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:34,679 Speaker 3: brilliant writers. So it was just a project that was 515 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:37,560 Speaker 3: brought on together by all of these amazing people that 516 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:42,240 Speaker 3: were like minded and shared in this this this this 517 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:44,440 Speaker 3: you know, you know, trying to change the world, you 518 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying and give people something totally different. 519 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:49,720 Speaker 1: That's awesome, man, Well we look forward to that for sure. 520 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:53,520 Speaker 1: And you know it's that time in the show. The 521 00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:56,040 Speaker 1: show was called I've never said this before, so I 522 00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 1: asked all of my guests to share something could be silly, 523 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,439 Speaker 1: would be deep, could be anything you want. But what 524 00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:03,800 Speaker 1: is something that you've never. 525 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:09,320 Speaker 2: Said before, something that I never said before. 526 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:11,680 Speaker 1: I know it's a tough one because you're an open book, 527 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:12,879 Speaker 1: but there's got to be something. 528 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:17,640 Speaker 2: I never said this before. 529 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:22,480 Speaker 3: But I'm a little nervous of my album coming out 530 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:26,679 Speaker 3: in November. It's been a very long time and I 531 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:31,840 Speaker 3: really want to make this project something that will be remembered, 532 00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 3: you know, and be something that people can really sink 533 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:38,440 Speaker 3: their teeth into and appreciate. So yeah, I think I'm 534 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 3: nervous for this new upcoming out. 535 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:45,239 Speaker 1: I love that you said that because people listening are 536 00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:48,440 Speaker 1: going to think, WHOA Jason Durro gets nervous too. 537 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:52,280 Speaker 2: I should do for sure. For sure. 538 00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:54,719 Speaker 1: I love that man. We look forward to the album. 539 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:57,920 Speaker 1: You got so many great things going on. We're here 540 00:27:57,960 --> 00:27:59,960 Speaker 1: to support you in any way we can and keep rock. 541 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:01,800 Speaker 1: It's been a pleasure chatting with you. 542 00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:04,080 Speaker 2: Ah pleasures, MOML thanks so much. 543 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:10,240 Speaker 1: I've never said this before. Is hosted by me Tommy Didario. 544 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:14,119 Speaker 1: This podcast is produced and edited by Mike Coscarelli, and 545 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:18,760 Speaker 1: executive producers are Andrew Piglici, and Katrina Norvel at iHeartRadio. 546 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:21,280 Speaker 1: I've Never Said This Before is part of the Elvis 547 00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:25,719 Speaker 1: Durant podcast Network on iHeart Podcasts. For more, rate, review 548 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 1: and subscribe to our show and if you liked this episode, 549 00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:32,359 Speaker 1: tell your friends. Until next time, I'm Tommy Dedario.