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Speaker 2: John Middlecoff three in our podcast live here from Indianapolis,

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Speaker 2: where it was freezing. You know what, when I got

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Speaker 2: him yet other stuff to do. But I did get

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Speaker 2: two guys, Howie Roseman. We will play that today now,

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Speaker 2: we'll probably open the show with that. And I had

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Speaker 2: We're gonna go through all the breaking news. I haven't

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Speaker 2: the game plan. And then tomorrow I talk to John Schneider,

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Speaker 2: Well Schneider on and probably do something similar with the

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Speaker 2: the combine for the next couple of days. See if

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Speaker 2: I get more sleep than I normally would. But a

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Speaker 2: the NFL, and that's where you get the good gossip

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Speaker 2: that I kind of give back on this podcast without

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Speaker 2: and it makes for good content. So that will be

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Speaker 2: the game plan over the course of the next week.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, so let's you guys know the drill. Subscribe

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Speaker 2: to the podcast wherever you listen Apple Spotify all of

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Speaker 2: our videos, the interview with Howie, the interview with John,

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Speaker 2: check that as well. Appreciate everyone that has Let's just

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Speaker 2: uh's just dive right into a two time Super Bowl

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Speaker 2: champ Hi Roseman. Okay, I have my former boss here,

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Speaker 2: multiple times super Bowl champion. I'd say future Hall of Famer,

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Speaker 2: but after Belichick, you never know. Uh Hwy Roseman, Howie,

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Speaker 1: Do you want to pull Dave Dombrowski right now? No?

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Speaker 3: I mean Dave dem Browski is a Hall of Fame

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Speaker 4: With which he doesn't deserve.

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Speaker 3: Don't deserve because he is a great GM, a great person,

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Speaker 3: and you know, I do miss having you man. You

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 3: You were a good scout. You had a lot of passion.

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Speaker 3: I think we should tell your viewers you know how

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Speaker 3: you were. You were persistent. You know, you would not

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Speaker 1: An aggressive human. Were same. We're on Netflix. Same same.

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Speaker 3: We're on Netflix right now.

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Speaker 2: No, my whole podcast on Netflix. Really yeah, so we

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Speaker 3: What does that go for?

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Speaker 1: What combine is this for you?

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Speaker 1: No I said, I could think I'm old at all.

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Speaker 2: One thing I remember is every team we'd play, you'd

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Speaker 1: I know, you got to run, So I did. I've

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you got You got me.

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Speaker 2: The league when I was with you was much more

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Speaker 1: I mean your friends at least baseball and basketball. GM.

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Speaker 3: I haven't thought about it like that, you know. I

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Speaker 1: Good GM talk right there.

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Speaker 2: But what's the area that you're going to attack right

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Speaker 3: Hi, Howry Roseman, John, Nice to meet you. You think I'm

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Speaker 1: Okay, we can.

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Speaker 2: We got a standing tea time, Robert Sala Arizona owners meetings.

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Speaker 3: Do you want to Well, you got one kid, I

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Speaker 3: Well, I was hoping more that you were going to

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Speaker 3: give me your Remember when you go on the road

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Speaker 2: I go Dominic's the steakhouse, so you've probably eaten there before.

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Speaker 2: I would say the mast.

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Speaker 3: Doing you're doing this on on your podcast.

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Speaker 1: You know you're gonna there. That's pretty good. Yeah, that's good. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I would say, dominance, call.

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Speaker 3: You up to get me a reservation because I know

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Speaker 3: you got ends with all those people. Yeah. Good to

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Speaker 3: see you, brother, Good to see you, Ali, Thanks for

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Speaker 2: Okay, let's fire over to uh To. Some thoughts from

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Speaker 4: I just gotta ask for a podcaster like yourself full time.

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Speaker 1: But if you do it a lot I can see

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Speaker 2: Your social battery can just my social batteries Again, I'm

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's takes a lot of energy. And I

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Speaker 1: At least ten thousand steps today.

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Speaker 2: So what uh I mean part of today? You know,

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Speaker 2: what I thought, Let's get Jackson, get the top stories

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Speaker 4: Yeah, let's start with the top one. This one happened

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Speaker 4: later in the day. Five time All Pro left tackle

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Speaker 4: Trent Williams schedule to carry a thirty nine million dollars

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Speaker 4: According to Adam Schefter, it's not an offseason without a

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Speaker 2: Mister Middlecoff, Well, their offensive line is not good, and

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Speaker 2: recording this before John Lynch is talking like midnight, I'm like,

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Speaker 2: I'm not waiting for John Lynch stock And I'm sure

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Speaker 2: they don't want to cut Trent Williams. No, but Trent

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Speaker 2: I don't even blame him, Like he's got leverage in

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's a Kyle's guy. You just can't cut

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Speaker 2: So it's like the story's cool and I understand it,

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Speaker 1: Like josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, Mahomes.

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Speaker 4: Does this ponder of the fact they drafted twenty seventh

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Speaker 2: Nine ers don't draft offensive linement. They've done it like mcglinchy.

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Speaker 2: When they first got there. They got very lucky that

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Speaker 2: They were the Redskins or the football team at the time.

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Speaker 4: Right, Paris Johnson, DJ Humphries round where those guys draft

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Speaker 2: you just naturally when you don't sign read a new

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Speaker 2: So but that's the part of like he ain't alone,

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Speaker 2: Money's all relative whether you make thirty grand a year

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Speaker 1: So you got.

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Speaker 4: Sirianni that says he can't guarantee anything. You got Roseman

439
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Speaker 4: that it's hard to improve when you subtract great players.

440
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Speaker 4: Thoughts on that and what's gonna happen with AJ Brown,

441
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Speaker 4: who I thought, like a couple of weeks ago it

442
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Speaker 4: might be hard to trade for.

443
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Speaker 2: Him because he's like a little older, but he's not

444
00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:55,840
Speaker 2: that always like twenty eight twenty nine makes a lot

445
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Speaker 2: of money.

446
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Speaker 1: I'm I don't think that's I was wrong.

447
00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:02,080
Speaker 2: I actually think it would be pretty easy for them

448
00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:04,600
Speaker 2: to trade him. They definitely get a second round pick,

449
00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:07,480
Speaker 2: but you know, you know, putting my ear to the

450
00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:10,439
Speaker 2: ground talking to some people, they're not just gonna give

451
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Speaker 2: him away for like pick fifty. I don't think, like,

452
00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:14,240
Speaker 2: I don't think they're desperate to give him away, like

453
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Speaker 2: I thought, like people on the outside think, so could

454
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Speaker 2: they get the Patriots' thirty first pick or something like

455
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Speaker 2: that if they would have to think about it.

456
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Speaker 1: But I don't think.

457
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Speaker 2: I originally thought he was gonna be somewhat of a

458
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Speaker 2: bargain if a team was willing to take a salary,

459
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Speaker 2: maybe give him extension. I don't think Eagles is just

460
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Speaker 2: gonna hand him off. So my guess would be we're

461
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Speaker 2: gonna see a lot of different stories come out about

462
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Speaker 2: like the conference, like Eagles want more. I think that's

463
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Speaker 2: gonna be a lot Eagles want more. Okay, second, I

464
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Speaker 2: want your second this year, your second next year. Like,

465
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Speaker 2: I think he's gonna ask for a lot because I

466
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Speaker 2: don't have to give him away.

467
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Speaker 4: Do you think the Raiders that I'm going to have

468
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Speaker 4: the second round thirty six or Giants at thirty seven

469
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Speaker 4: would get one of those or is that too valuable

470
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Speaker 4: on their end where they're trying to get things going.

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Speaker 1: I think for the Raiders, I don't that would be.

472
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Speaker 1: I think you gotta use that. It's like you gotta

473
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Speaker 1: get some linemen. Yeah, they've done that.

474
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Speaker 2: Remember they traded for DeVante Adams and it blew up

475
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Speaker 2: in their face. I I do not think the Raiders

476
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Speaker 2: can be in that business. I mean a lot of

477
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Speaker 2: people think that Max Crosby mean, I might not even

478
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Speaker 2: get traded. So if you're gonna keep Max Crosby, could

479
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Speaker 2: you entertain bringing a J. Brown to go with Fernanda Mendoza,

480
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Speaker 2: but then your offensive line sucks? Yeah, I mean I

481
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Speaker 2: would say the Giants would be a team that would

482
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Speaker 2: sniff around. But Kwie Roseman gonna trade him to John

483
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Speaker 2: Harbaugh and the New York Giants that.

484
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Speaker 1: There always forget about.

485
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Speaker 2: There are certain trades like Veach would love to get

486
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Speaker 2: Max Crosby, but that's it's a non starter. Remember how

487
00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:44,760
Speaker 2: he was like sniffing around Micah Parsons last year, was

488
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Speaker 2: like it just doesn't happen, which I understand.

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Speaker 1: You.

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Speaker 2: You cannot to me trade superstar players. They'd have to

491
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Speaker 2: give you, like you know, of value on an individual

492
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Speaker 2: to make it worth it.

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Speaker 4: Speaking of star players, John spy Tech was asked today

494
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Speaker 4: about star defensive end Max Crosby and he expects him

495
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Speaker 4: to play in twenty twenty six. Amid the trade speculation,

496
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Speaker 4: I mean, that's typical GM talk. I'm assuming the fact

497
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Speaker 4: that he's gonna probably go out and at least hear

498
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Speaker 4: from the outside noise. What are your thoughts on on

499
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Speaker 4: spy Tech in the whole.

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Speaker 1: Say it again, I wasn't really listening. We're in a

501
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Speaker 1: days right now. You bet he's since like nine text

502
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Speaker 1: from my wife and I couldn't tell it, but it

503
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Speaker 1: was stupid.

504
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Speaker 4: Spy Tech expects Crosby basically be on the team this

505
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Speaker 4: next year amid the trade talk.

506
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Speaker 1: That's kind of what you expect him to say, right Yeah.

507
00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:41,240
Speaker 2: I think he's got to say that now, and I

508
00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:44,399
Speaker 2: think he does believe like he does want it to

509
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Speaker 2: work out. I was talking to someone and I'm in

510
00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:51,359
Speaker 2: total agreement, Like Max Crosby is everything you'd want in

511
00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:55,040
Speaker 2: a high end player. He's a great player, plays his

512
00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:59,920
Speaker 2: ass off, He'll play injured. He is now like married kid,

513
00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,520
Speaker 2: a sober for years. You don't have to worry about

514
00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:05,360
Speaker 2: any of that crap. He's in the facility constantly. He's

515
00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:08,040
Speaker 2: an all in guy. Like to me, I think the

516
00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:10,480
Speaker 2: more quote unquote all in guys you can have like

517
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Speaker 2: part of the forty nine ers.

518
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Speaker 1: They had no business being that good this year, but.

519
00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:17,160
Speaker 2: They got a lot of all in guys like George

520
00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:19,840
Speaker 2: Kittle's all his feet like he ain't jumping out the boat,

521
00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:23,680
Speaker 2: you know. McCaffrey's like that, Fred Warner's like that. Max

522
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Speaker 2: Crosby is wired like dudes that would play for the Chiefs,

523
00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:30,320
Speaker 2: Dudes that would play for the New England Patriot. Brady Belt, like,

524
00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:35,040
Speaker 2: that's who you want. So to me, I mean, I'm

525
00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:38,040
Speaker 2: asking for a lot now. I would trade him because

526
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Speaker 2: I do think it's time to kind of blow it

527
00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:41,600
Speaker 2: up start over. But like when I hear you know

528
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Speaker 2: you're not gonna get as much of Michael Parsons, then

529
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Speaker 2: you're not getting Max Crosby, And I know you want

530
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Speaker 2: Max Crosby's under contract. One thing I heard is, like

531
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Speaker 2: the injuries. He's been injured the last couple of years

532
00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:53,040
Speaker 2: at the end of the season, but even this year

533
00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:54,920
Speaker 2: he could have kept playing. It's not like there's one

534
00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:56,480
Speaker 2: thing if you're injured and you, oh, he only played

535
00:23:56,480 --> 00:24:00,399
Speaker 2: seven games. He plays in games. So I think you

536
00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:01,840
Speaker 2: get two first round picks for him. And I think

537
00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:03,800
Speaker 2: if you get two first round picks for him, if

538
00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:06,879
Speaker 2: you're the Raiders, I think you got to think about it.

539
00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:08,760
Speaker 2: The problem I been he's saying is like, then we

540
00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:11,639
Speaker 2: get Fernando on this awful team, our defense is worse.

541
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Speaker 2: Even if we draft offensive lineman, they're young, It's probably

542
00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:16,520
Speaker 2: gonna be a long year.

543
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Speaker 1: No matter what. I'm a spy tech fan. I'm rooting

544
00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:20,320
Speaker 1: for this raider operating.

545
00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:23,679
Speaker 2: I like Fernando Mendoza but eventually got to pull off

546
00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:27,160
Speaker 2: the band aid, and he is How often you get

547
00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:29,439
Speaker 2: guys twenty eight, twenty nine with the lead value like

548
00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:30,960
Speaker 2: Miles Garrett was rare last year.

549
00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:32,320
Speaker 1: He was like over thirty.

550
00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:34,440
Speaker 2: It was like the whole league would have traded two

551
00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:36,520
Speaker 2: first round picks and two second round picks for him.

552
00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:39,639
Speaker 2: Pretty rare, right, And he's but he's like one of

553
00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:42,280
Speaker 2: the great talents of all time. Max isn't as talented

554
00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:44,160
Speaker 2: as Miles, but like.

555
00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:46,280
Speaker 1: Miles, like shows up late to meetings and shit, but

556
00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:48,000
Speaker 1: no one cares. He's so good. He's kind of like

557
00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:49,200
Speaker 1: an NBA player.

558
00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:51,879
Speaker 2: Where Max is more wired like an NFL guy, like

559
00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:53,960
Speaker 2: an all in guy or just I guess there are

560
00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:56,119
Speaker 2: a lot of drama guys in the NFL too, but

561
00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:58,600
Speaker 2: you don't. There's not much drama there, so to me,

562
00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:04,040
Speaker 2: I think you would get You know, Mike is a

563
00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:07,240
Speaker 2: better player because he's younger, but he also cost them

564
00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:10,120
Speaker 2: one hundred and eighty eight million dollars. Max doesn't cost

565
00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:12,400
Speaker 2: you anything because he's already under contract at a relatively

566
00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:12,920
Speaker 2: low number.

567
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Speaker 1: You just have to give the draft capital. So I

568
00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:17,199
Speaker 1: think I think there are gonna be a lot of

569
00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:18,520
Speaker 1: stories about offers.

570
00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:19,399
Speaker 2: And I think a lot of people are gonna come

571
00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:20,760
Speaker 2: in like we'll give you a first and a second,

572
00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:23,359
Speaker 2: and I think they're gonna get nos. But I do

573
00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:25,720
Speaker 2: think they'll end up getting a two ones and a

574
00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:26,560
Speaker 2: player or something.

575
00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:27,520
Speaker 1: Well, you spoke to.

576
00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:32,199
Speaker 4: Howie Roseman, John Schneider Eagle Seahawks rumored to be with

577
00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:34,800
Speaker 4: some of those teams to go after Max, Crosby and

578
00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:36,520
Speaker 4: Bears two. Do you kind of expect them to be

579
00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:38,040
Speaker 4: more of an NFC team or you think it's kind

580
00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:40,880
Speaker 4: of like we're gonna open the book to anybody, even

581
00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:45,120
Speaker 4: the AFC itself. But if I'm spy Tech, I'm apparently

582
00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:46,679
Speaker 4: what he said, and he's gonna try to keep him

583
00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:49,480
Speaker 4: and kind of get that leader moving forward in this

584
00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:51,520
Speaker 4: new regime with Koobiak, I think.

585
00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:54,280
Speaker 2: Two teams that would want him would be the Chiefs

586
00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:57,800
Speaker 2: and the Chargers. They ain't trade him there. No, I'm

587
00:25:57,800 --> 00:25:59,800
Speaker 2: sure Denver be interested too, so like three of the

588
00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:01,840
Speaker 2: teams I don't know, The Chiefs didn't make the playoffs

589
00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:04,840
Speaker 2: this year, but like Denver charged playoff teams, Chiefs five

590
00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:07,159
Speaker 2: last six Super bowls. Those are like three of the

591
00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:10,000
Speaker 2: best teams in the AFC that aren't even available because

592
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:13,080
Speaker 2: they would never even they were not even talking. The

593
00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:17,320
Speaker 2: Bills would be an interesting team Raven's new coach.

594
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:19,240
Speaker 1: I don't know so.

595
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:22,840
Speaker 2: But but Matt Naggie's first year with the with the Bears,

596
00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:23,880
Speaker 2: they traded for Khalil Mack.

597
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:27,280
Speaker 1: So a lot of teams will be sniffing around like

598
00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:29,119
Speaker 1: the Bengals. Why wouldn't they be all over them? Oh

599
00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:30,919
Speaker 1: my gosh, that'd be a great thing.

600
00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:36,800
Speaker 2: The NFC teams make more sense, Niners, Rams, Bears, Lions, Eagles, Seattle,

601
00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:39,400
Speaker 2: like all the heavy hitters would be interested in them.

602
00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:41,400
Speaker 4: When's the last time the Bengals been a big trade?

603
00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:43,800
Speaker 1: Yeah they won't. They're cheap, No chance.

604
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:44,639
Speaker 3: Uh.

605
00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:48,560
Speaker 4: Texas GM Nick Casserio called trade speculation about his quarterback

606
00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:52,720
Speaker 4: CJ Stroud moronic and insisted the team is not trading CJ.

607
00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:56,520
Speaker 1: Is there trade speculation? Is that out there? I guess well.

608
00:26:56,560 --> 00:27:00,879
Speaker 2: I think part of it is he's going into his

609
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:02,680
Speaker 2: fourth year, so they'll pick up his fifth year option.

610
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:08,280
Speaker 2: His agent is Mulgeta, the heavy hitter. They like getting

611
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:10,360
Speaker 2: their guys paid. But it's like you don't have as

612
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:12,399
Speaker 2: much juice right now, like you're not gonna get a

613
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:16,040
Speaker 2: big quarterback contract. And we've been talking about this of

614
00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:19,040
Speaker 2: like if you pay Josh Allen, if you pay Lamar,

615
00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:21,520
Speaker 2: if you pay Patrick, it's like, okay, well once you

616
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:23,960
Speaker 2: like CJ. Shroud has proven like he's in like the

617
00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:26,480
Speaker 2: dak Her cousins. When he's good and he you know,

618
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:28,480
Speaker 2: he's kind of been hit or miss, like he's had

619
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:31,760
Speaker 2: some Tua Kyler. You get in a weird spot when

620
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:34,280
Speaker 2: you pay the wrong guy the crazy amount of money.

621
00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:38,240
Speaker 2: So to me, the move's easy. We're not trading CJ. Shroud.

622
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:40,720
Speaker 2: But he's also just gonna be on his rookie contract.

623
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 2: He was the second pick in the draft, so he

624
00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:45,159
Speaker 2: ain't making pretty money.

625
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:46,359
Speaker 1: He's making millions of.

626
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:48,720
Speaker 2: Dollars and it'll be all started quarterback nature, and if

627
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:50,560
Speaker 2: he crushes it, we'll gi himwo hundred million dollars.

628
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:53,560
Speaker 1: But if he doesn't, I would say next year would

629
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:54,280
Speaker 1: be a pivot point.

630
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:58,040
Speaker 2: Next year's a you could argue in terms of money,

631
00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:01,320
Speaker 2: next year's he's got more on the table, because it

632
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:02,840
Speaker 2: could go like if you told me the Texans are

633
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:05,520
Speaker 2: in the AFC Championship Game and he throws thirty five touchdowns, He'll.

634
00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:06,240
Speaker 1: Get a huge contract.

635
00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:08,679
Speaker 2: Do you tell me, it's goes a little weird. The

636
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:11,480
Speaker 2: Texans are not doing that now, he would have trade value.

637
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:16,919
Speaker 2: But I think Casario I introduced myself to him this

638
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 2: today because when I was at Fresident State, the Patriots

639
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:24,480
Speaker 2: always took a bunch of our players. Is his interviews

640
00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:28,520
Speaker 2: are some of the best GM interviews today because he's

641
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:31,400
Speaker 2: like confident, he's not like insecure about what he's saying.

642
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:34,320
Speaker 2: He just talks football, and he's good at like kind

643
00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 2: of gets nerdy football, but like in a very digestible way.

644
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:40,880
Speaker 1: You know how he's good at like avoiding. It's like

645
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:43,000
Speaker 1: how he but I get.

646
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:46,440
Speaker 2: It because you know Philly, they will it's crazy casarri

647
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:50,480
Speaker 2: Or in Houston. He's been trained by Belichick, but he's

648
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:52,520
Speaker 2: his own guy. I'm telling you, I think his GM

649
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:56,520
Speaker 2: press conferences are awesome, and I agree he's not getting traded, but.

650
00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:57,640
Speaker 1: He's also not gett an extension.

651
00:28:57,680 --> 00:28:59,560
Speaker 4: It's kind of good timing for the Texans, though, because

652
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:02,400
Speaker 4: everyone talks about the twenty twenty seven quarterback class and

653
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:03,840
Speaker 4: I don't want to give it too much hype because

654
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:05,920
Speaker 4: we did have hype on the twenty twenty six draft class.

655
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:10,480
Speaker 4: I don't know we had a ton alerk or Alur Kubiak,

656
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 4: Aler Club, Nick nuss Meyer Beck All will be here

657
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 4: this week, but all will be projected later on.

658
00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 1: Don't you think it's kind of good timing.

659
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:19,600
Speaker 4: I guess the fact that like, you're gonna have to

660
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 4: pay Will Anderson soon CJ shredd if he does, think

661
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:25,440
Speaker 4: you do have I don't want to say Davis mill

662
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 4: is gonna be the future, but just a manageable quarterback

663
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 4: like a Sam Darnol.

664
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:29,680
Speaker 1: You don't need a guy that's gonna go out there.

665
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:31,280
Speaker 4: It's a guy that doesn't turn the ball.

666
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:34,240
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying that they need, because clearly Casario

667
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:37,240
Speaker 2: one thing he learned from Bill. Remember when he took Stingley,

668
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 2: people thought he was crazy, seeing he was like the

669
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:41,280
Speaker 2: best corner in the league or one of them. Will

670
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:43,760
Speaker 2: Anderson move was pallsy. Even Woody marks this year was

671
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:46,440
Speaker 2: a good pick Caseiro's really good at his job. That

672
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:48,960
Speaker 2: team is gonna be well run for a while. The

673
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:52,040
Speaker 2: only way you can derail a well run team is

674
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:56,040
Speaker 2: by giving a quarterback who is not worth because again cj.

675
00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:59,360
Speaker 2: Ain't signed in like two years forty million dollars, so

676
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:01,160
Speaker 2: it's like he's kind of in the no man's land

677
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:04,600
Speaker 2: right now. And he to me, my biggest beef with

678
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 2: him is like, bro, just right now you can develop

679
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:10,960
Speaker 2: into this play more. They hate the term game manager,

680
00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:14,640
Speaker 2: but just play more like fucking Ryan Tannehill did for

681
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 2: Vray Bowl and the Titans. If he had done that

682
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 2: or what Alex did for they could have won the

683
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:23,520
Speaker 2: Super Bowl. Kyle Shanahan said there were two teams that

684
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:26,040
Speaker 2: could have won the Super Bowl if their offense and

685
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 2: special teams didn't screwed up. It was Seattle and Sam

686
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:33,560
Speaker 2: played better than that in Houston, and CJ was because

687
00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:36,480
Speaker 2: he is talented, but he is closer like his style

688
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:40,600
Speaker 2: to Goff than he is like Lamar and Josh and Patrick,

689
00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:42,480
Speaker 2: and sometimes I think he's like, well.

690
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:43,400
Speaker 1: I'm fucking those guys.

691
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:47,040
Speaker 2: It's like Bro, I mean, the playoffs was it was outrageous,

692
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:49,120
Speaker 2: so bad it was, and I was rooting for.

693
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:51,120
Speaker 1: I had money on them to make them a Super Bowl,

694
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:51,840
Speaker 1: a huge.

695
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:53,840
Speaker 2: Future bet that was kind of like a long shot,

696
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:55,640
Speaker 2: and it was like I didn't have a chance, honestly

697
00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:58,440
Speaker 2: if their defense wasn't as good. Remember how bad that

698
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:02,520
Speaker 2: the playoff game was in Pittsburgh. And to me, coming

699
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:07,520
Speaker 2: from New England, part of their operation was like Brittie's

700
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 2: the greatest quarterback ever, but bring in a lot of

701
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 2: like and this is gonna sound like a I don't know,

702
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 2: negative dunkin duncan, Like, hey, my best option is just

703
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 2: a little check down. Do you know what doesn't win

704
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 2: you games? Is like throwing a pick in a tight

705
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 2: game in the third quarter on the road in the

706
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 2: playoffs and CJ through like seven of them that game.

707
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:32,080
Speaker 2: So to me, that was That's where Demiko is probably

708
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:34,960
Speaker 2: Taylor made for this like modern day kind of sport

709
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:37,000
Speaker 2: because it is a lot of people talking about him.

710
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:39,600
Speaker 1: He's from Ohio state. He's just a lot of people are.

711
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 2: Paying attention to him, and typically Texans like kind of

712
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 2: an under the radar team. It's on Demico to kind

713
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:48,440
Speaker 2: of work with him. And that's Tomko's personalities. He's like

714
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 2: him and Solo. They're just great with players. They really

715
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:53,880
Speaker 2: just got to kind of like, bro we don't need

716
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 2: you to like carry the franchise. Will Anderson and those

717
00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:00,800
Speaker 2: guys have that cover. Yeah, you know, let's face it.

718
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:03,960
Speaker 2: Will is the star of their team by a mile.

719
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:05,440
Speaker 2: I mean, he's one of the best players in the league.

720
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:08,800
Speaker 2: But in fairness to CJ on the second overall pick,

721
00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 2: I'm for a while I'll say I'm the quarterback.

722
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 1: I don't.

723
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:13,320
Speaker 2: I'm telling you, I don't think the players sometimes, which

724
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:15,040
Speaker 2: can be scary.

725
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 1: I think next year, I'm.

726
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 2: More fascinated to watch DJ Stroud than most players because, like,

727
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:21,200
Speaker 2: is he cool with like taking a little bit of

728
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 2: a step back.

729
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 1: I'm sure they're gonna have a better running game.

730
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:26,760
Speaker 2: They have the Washington Commander second round pick, which is

731
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:30,280
Speaker 2: like pick thirty seven, Like the Texans could be even

732
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 2: better from a roster standpoint next year, Yeah thirty eight.

733
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 1: So it's like, GJ just play like Dak did five

734
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:41,080
Speaker 1: years ago. I feel like the game manager role or term.

735
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:44,560
Speaker 4: It was Kim Newton that made it not appealing when

736
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 4: he called out Brock, wasn't it.

737
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:50,320
Speaker 2: And now everyone talking because Alex, like Alex Smith, used

738
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 2: to get called that a lot.

739
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 1: I don't get the forty niners in the Chiefs. They

740
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:55,720
Speaker 1: were going the playoffs every year.

741
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, like not everyone can be like John Elway or

742
00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 2: pre far. Most people aren't Aaron Rodgers twenty fourteen. Like,

743
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:06,000
Speaker 2: if your team legit as Sam Donold, what it was

744
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:07,480
Speaker 2: like managing a lot of those games this year?

745
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:08,760
Speaker 1: Pretty cool? He super Bowl champ.

746
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they're gonna be a game or two if

747
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:15,560
Speaker 2: your team's loaded or they're gonna need you. Okay, that

748
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 2: playoff game for CJ, they did not need them. It's like, bro,

749
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 2: play under control, you will win this game. The Texans

750
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 2: are better in the Patriots if you remove the quarterbacks.

751
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:28,720
Speaker 2: I don't even think it's close. I mean, I like,

752
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:31,720
Speaker 2: I respect for Abel and what they've done. Patriots are

753
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 2: one of the worst Super Bowl teams of all time.

754
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:35,640
Speaker 4: I do think the Texas receiver group got better towards

755
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 4: the back end, like both the rookies. Christian Kirk broke out.

756
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:40,960
Speaker 4: Nico Collins I think was hurt during the playoffs two.

757
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:45,240
Speaker 2: But moving on to a bigger story, I think if

758
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:47,720
Speaker 2: this exact team the Texans the way, how good they are,

759
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:50,920
Speaker 2: or the Eagles were the Niners were the Packers because

760
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 2: like they are that good non quarterbacks not and then

761
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 2: just events how the quarterback play, Yeah, they're just I

762
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:58,000
Speaker 2: mean they play in the State of Texas and the Cowboys.

763
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 4: There two teams that are planning the tag players. Let's

764
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:05,960
Speaker 4: go Falcons playing to tag Kyle Pitts, Jets playing to

765
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:10,560
Speaker 4: tag Breeze Hall and alongside the Falcons tagging Kyle Pitts.

766
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:13,239
Speaker 4: They're set to release Kirk Cousins, which doesn't seem like

767
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 4: a shock, but it's like, I wonder what they're gonna

768
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:16,720
Speaker 4: do a quarterback for the foul.

769
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:21,640
Speaker 2: That didn't go well, that was a Cousins. You think

770
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:24,400
Speaker 2: Trent Screedy. You know, Cousins made a hundred million dollars.

771
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:26,279
Speaker 2: I don't know if he won many games the last

772
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:28,719
Speaker 2: couple of years. I see him doing pot We need

773
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:29,640
Speaker 2: to have him on the podcast.

774
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 1: He's great.

775
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 4: Oh he's great on TV. The CBS coverage he did

776
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:33,360
Speaker 4: for the AFC champions.

777
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 2: I think he's making that transition and he'll be you

778
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:36,480
Speaker 2: watched like three years, he'll get like a.

779
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:37,400
Speaker 1: Tony Rommel contract.

780
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:39,880
Speaker 2: People like Cousins, how's he doing this? He's like the

781
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:43,840
Speaker 2: Warren Buffett of football. I think a lot of people

782
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:45,440
Speaker 2: were like, Kyle Pitts is gonna be one of the

783
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 2: main targets you know this free agency, but he would

784
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:52,279
Speaker 2: look pretty sweet last year. And to me, uh, Stefanski,

785
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:57,239
Speaker 2: they had what's his name Najoku, Like you get that

786
00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:01,080
Speaker 2: tight end with that running back like pretty nasty. So

787
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 2: I think you don't really have a choice.

788
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:07,400
Speaker 1: Who is the other guy bres Hall for the Jets? Crazy?

789
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:12,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I think, to me, running backs, he better

790
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 2: be like Bijon in this pride I mean, specially guy injured.

791
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:16,400
Speaker 1: All the time.

792
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:18,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think people think he's like a well rounded

793
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:21,399
Speaker 2: catches the ball well hot take.

794
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:24,319
Speaker 1: And again I've heard him interview. It seems like a

795
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:24,839
Speaker 1: great guy.

796
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:28,240
Speaker 2: Perty's teammate resurrected Iowa State with Matt Campbell.

797
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 1: Honestly, those two guys help put Matt Campbell on the map, right.

798
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:34,919
Speaker 1: I just think he got talked about.

799
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:36,799
Speaker 2: And I'm not a big fantasy guy, but I felt

800
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:39,960
Speaker 2: like all the fantasy guys were like next to Marshall Folk,

801
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:43,319
Speaker 2: I was like, could be the Jets if he goes

802
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:46,080
Speaker 2: somewhere else, And it's like Christian McCaffrey.

803
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 1: It's truly a Jets.

804
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 4: I thought he was gonna come to Arizona. That was

805
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:51,920
Speaker 4: the whole speculation, is that Arizona was gonna cut James

806
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:53,240
Speaker 4: Connor and go after.

807
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:54,719
Speaker 1: Coach him when he was young.

808
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:57,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, but it's just paying the running back like that.

809
00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:58,879
Speaker 4: I would rather go out in the draft and get

810
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:01,440
Speaker 4: somebody or trust Trey Benson.

811
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 2: Solid now Tennessee, they don't. I'm trying to think Brian Callahan.

812
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:10,720
Speaker 2: I don't even know where he's. Oh he's a quarterback

813
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:11,759
Speaker 2: coach at New York.

814
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:27,560
Speaker 1: A couple more two guys that. You know.

815
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:30,280
Speaker 4: What's the funniest part about I wish people could see

816
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:33,360
Speaker 4: us walking around on this radio row is you do

817
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:34,840
Speaker 4: have a lot of hot takes, a lot of fiery

818
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 4: takes about some people. We would these two guys I'm

819
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 4: about to break up would walk by it and you're like, oh.

820
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:39,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, that guy.

821
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:40,920
Speaker 4: I said a lot of meat stuff about him, like

822
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 4: I don't like that guy.

823
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:42,400
Speaker 1: That guy is like me.

824
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:45,400
Speaker 4: One of those guys being Andrew Berry, the general manager

825
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 4: for the Browns, was asked about his belief in quarterback

826
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:51,719
Speaker 4: Deshaun Watson competing for the quarterback one spot, and he said,

827
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:54,920
Speaker 4: any player on a roster. We would want to compete.

828
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 4: We believe in competition. Thoughts on Deshaun Watson competing for

829
00:36:58,680 --> 00:36:59,560
Speaker 4: the quarterback one.

830
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 1: Andrew Berry is always this personally hard. He's a great guy,

831
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:05,360
Speaker 1: clearly very.

832
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:08,799
Speaker 2: Intelligent as someone who's intelligence is probably in the lower end.

833
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:11,120
Speaker 1: And Ivy League guy sharp.

834
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:15,440
Speaker 2: I do think if he coached or i mean was

835
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:20,719
Speaker 2: the GM of again the bigger brands, bigger media markets,

836
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:24,799
Speaker 2: his team always loses. And for this, like Ivy League

837
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:27,239
Speaker 2: smart guy, they have more I'm not even counting to

838
00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:32,280
Speaker 2: Sean Watson. They've had multiple guys they've drafted immediately get arrested.

839
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 2: If that happened to like John Lynch or Howie, it

840
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 2: would be a fucking war zone.

841
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:39,239
Speaker 1: But it's like he media likes him because I've said

842
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 1: this forever.

843
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:42,240
Speaker 2: Media is well read with a lot of these guys,

844
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:45,840
Speaker 2: good good, high level institutions, and they like kind of

845
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:49,080
Speaker 2: get to pass Stefanski kind of get did too Savansky

846
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:49,759
Speaker 2: ava League guy?

847
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:52,239
Speaker 1: But like how much?

848
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:54,879
Speaker 2: And maybe Andrew Berry would tell me when Nolan's looking,

849
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:57,880
Speaker 2: my owner's crazy. Probably true. Did Andrew Berry wanted to

850
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:00,440
Speaker 2: Sean Watton? Who wanted to Sean Watson? Somebody needs to

851
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:02,880
Speaker 2: write a book on that, because he didn't want to

852
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:05,239
Speaker 2: go to Cleveland, and the only way you can give.

853
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:06,920
Speaker 1: Him that much money is the owners gonna sign the check.

854
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 2: So that's that's the owner clearly heavily involved last year,

855
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 2: the Dylan Gabriel thing, then taking Shador. I mean, it's

856
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:19,080
Speaker 2: just they do a lot of stuff that other teams

857
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:24,080
Speaker 2: would get crucified, players going to jail, losing all the time,

858
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 2: taking two quarterbacks in the third and fifth round when

859
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 2: one quarterback who I don't think could hit the wall

860
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:32,880
Speaker 2: over there. I mean, most people had Dylan Gabriels and

861
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:36,120
Speaker 2: undrafted free agent and that might have been Stefanski, which

862
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:39,200
Speaker 2: I don't even blame. A lot of coaches don't evaluate well.

863
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 2: I'll even give Andrew Berry a pass on that one.

864
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 2: Like I think this is a terrible pick, but my

865
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 2: coach wants him. He's a quarterback guy. I just think

866
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 2: the Browns got a lot going on.

867
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:47,879
Speaker 1: He did.

868
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:49,759
Speaker 4: He did draft the defensive reck of the year too

869
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:53,879
Speaker 4: in the second round, Carson Sleschinger, Sweachinger, good pick.

870
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:55,760
Speaker 1: They had a good draft. That guy.

871
00:38:56,120 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 4: The even Shador with the value is good. Samson Judkins right,

872
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 4: jud Kinson was a monster before he broke his Like

873
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:07,000
Speaker 4: like their draft, that's see, that's what happens.

874
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:11,040
Speaker 1: They're fucking terrible. They're awful, and then people are like, well,

875
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 1: this draft class was incredible. You''re paid to win games.

876
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 1: The Browns are always suck. They're just so bad.

877
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:22,239
Speaker 2: And I just think that, like think of Tomlin and

878
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 2: Harbaugh got crucified. I mean, Tomlin is taking shit now

879
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:28,279
Speaker 2: for like a decade, and that's why he's the one

880
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:30,879
Speaker 2: was minimums going nine to eight every year.

881
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:33,440
Speaker 1: If he had one of those years, which I respected

882
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:36,200
Speaker 1: this year. This is where I where I Andrew would

883
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 1: stay on Andrew Berry.

884
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:40,360
Speaker 2: When they traded Flacco and Tomlin came out, He's like,

885
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:43,440
Speaker 2: what a fuck are we doing here? You would trade

886
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 2: a guy inside because like the analytics, like, I just

887
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:51,480
Speaker 2: I'm not into it. I'm not And I just think

888
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:56,319
Speaker 2: these Brown stories just exhaust me. I feel for their

889
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:59,320
Speaker 2: fans because they clearly love football. Luckily a lot of

890
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:01,480
Speaker 2: them have. Ohiouse, I just think they get a pass.

891
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:04,759
Speaker 2: I'll give them a pass on to Sean Watson, but

892
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:07,600
Speaker 2: the whole thing, because again, it's like their draft class,

893
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:09,839
Speaker 2: the Travis Hunter trade. They get credit for that, right,

894
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:10,760
Speaker 2: they got two.

895
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:13,400
Speaker 1: First round picks. It's like, see, well they got all

896
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 1: the they never win. I mean they just the whole

897
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:19,480
Speaker 1: point is to win, Like Howie and John Shnier. They

898
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:21,800
Speaker 1: do some stupid hit too, but miss some drafting.

899
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 2: The point is to win every Sunday, Like that's that's

900
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:24,920
Speaker 2: what they're paid to do.

901
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:27,200
Speaker 4: Especially, I felt like this was like the worst year

902
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:28,680
Speaker 4: of that division in a while.

903
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:31,960
Speaker 2: They hired Todd Munkin like that's the craziest, weirdest hire

904
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 2: of all time. And it was pretty clear people were

905
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 2: taking their job.

906
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 1: And here's the thing. The other thing, the forced guys

907
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:44,320
Speaker 1: just write essays. I'm a football coach. These guys are football.

908
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:47,319
Speaker 2: Coaches as they have a whistle around their neck, like

909
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:50,319
Speaker 2: at the end of the day that they are. Even

910
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 2: if we want to dive in, these are billion dollar businesses.

911
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:58,279
Speaker 2: Can the guy, I don't I communicate verbally with you, right,

912
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:03,880
Speaker 2: It's it's the medium of the communication in the in

913
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:06,720
Speaker 2: the role in which you play. You never write besides

914
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 2: maybe some powerpoints or stuff to Tiger deam, why would

915
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:10,240
Speaker 2: I need to write an essay?

916
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:13,480
Speaker 1: What I'm sorry? I just think it's kind of a

917
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 1: clown show.

918
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:18,400
Speaker 4: And the second guy, Panthers head coach Dave Canalis. We

919
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 4: walked by and we talked about how he ran a

920
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 4: flee flicker in the rain against Tampa Bay. He said

921
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:26,400
Speaker 4: that as offensive coordinator, Brad Idzick will call plays in

922
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:29,480
Speaker 4: twenty twenty six so he could take a more global

923
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 4: approach to the team.

924
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:34,880
Speaker 1: Jealous of Canalis is waistline. He's skinny man. He's just

925
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:37,600
Speaker 1: a good shape. He's a good shape man. See some

926
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 1: of these guys like, god, how do you say? So fit?

927
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:41,840
Speaker 1: There's a lot of I'm not gonna lie, this is

928
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:42,840
Speaker 1: super off topic.

929
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:45,120
Speaker 4: A lot of NFL network insider guys and a lot

930
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 4: of people I see on TV are a lot shorter

931
00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:48,880
Speaker 4: than I thought coming into this.

932
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:51,319
Speaker 1: Well, it's like I feel tall. It's like five ten.

933
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:52,239
Speaker 1: It's like Hollywood.

934
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:54,560
Speaker 2: You know if you went Tom Cruise like five four.

935
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 2: You know, I was just happy. I'm taller than rap sheet.

936
00:41:57,080 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 2: That was my biggest compared yourself to rape Chefter combined

937
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 2: like six eight.

938
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 1: You know. So yeah, it's not let's face it, this

939
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:10,959
Speaker 1: this group the media, you know, they like to eat.

940
00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:13,279
Speaker 2: That food comes out of that food's gone. You know,

941
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 2: we we missed that. We missed the run. All of

942
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 2: a sudden, we're starving.

943
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 1: Not a lot of former athletes. Yeah, force fast on us,

944
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:20,440
Speaker 1: but it is what it is.

945
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:25,480
Speaker 2: Uh, Canalis, I forgot what we were talking about.

946
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 1: They made the playoffs this year. That's pretty crass. They

947
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 1: did at eight nine.

948
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:34,640
Speaker 2: The playoff game, I saw, I don't know, were you

949
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:36,919
Speaker 2: gonna talk anything about Aaron Glenn because I did see

950
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 2: Aaron was I saw he must have said this.

951
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:41,960
Speaker 1: He was pretty fired up. Of all the people in here,

952
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:43,560
Speaker 1: the one I felt the worst for. It's like, God,

953
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:44,080
Speaker 1: so I've.

954
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:46,399
Speaker 4: Getting up on that podium and talking next to John

955
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 4: Harball too.

956
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:49,399
Speaker 1: I was like, Ah, that's that's a tough gig right now.

957
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:52,040
Speaker 2: Not all your fault. I mean, last year was bad,

958
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 2: but like you inherited the Jets like it's not. I

959
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:56,880
Speaker 2: don't put that on Aaron Glenn, but he said today

960
00:42:56,880 --> 00:43:00,400
Speaker 2: that calling plays in my superpower. I never dersod this

961
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 2: why you didn't call plays last year? Now, the team

962
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:05,400
Speaker 2: wasn't gonna be good, but I think if you're a

963
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:08,880
Speaker 2: head coach and you can do it, Like clearly Canalo's

964
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:11,440
Speaker 2: a pretty good play caller. Was good with Baker, like

965
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:13,360
Speaker 2: they had a lot of I mean, didn't Ted McMillan.

966
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:15,799
Speaker 2: Wasn't he the offensive rookie of the year. Yep, Like

967
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:18,640
Speaker 2: he's good at it. I would never as a head coach.

968
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:22,080
Speaker 2: If I'm talented at it, I would never give that up.

969
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:26,479
Speaker 2: Like I get it. The Tomlins, the Hardballs brothers, they're

970
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:28,719
Speaker 2: good at Like they can do the CEO thing really well.

971
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:31,920
Speaker 2: Sirian is good at it when he has the right coordinators.

972
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 2: You gotta call the place if you're like Canalis, to me,

973
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 2: should be calling plays. And it might be his dad

974
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:41,480
Speaker 2: used to be the GM of the Jets back in

975
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:43,720
Speaker 2: the day, back in the day, probably ten years ago.

976
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:47,719
Speaker 2: But to me, I'm not big on giving up the

977
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:49,560
Speaker 2: play calling because that's where things get weird. They start

978
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 2: blaming people, start firing people. Aaron Glenn was like solid

979
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:56,719
Speaker 2: last two years ago, they had no players. They go

980
00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:59,919
Speaker 2: into the Minnesota Viking game and Aaron Glenn, like saw

981
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 2: this year won a game with me, you and seven

982
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:03,960
Speaker 2: other media members like how.

983
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:04,880
Speaker 1: Did he just do it? Like?

984
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:06,560
Speaker 2: And that's why he got hired because he was like

985
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:09,879
Speaker 2: this fiery relates to the players and he's great schematically

986
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:12,920
Speaker 2: getting guys to play above I think I heard Tomlin

987
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:17,799
Speaker 2: say this, like, my job is not getting you know

988
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:21,880
Speaker 2: whoever my Troy Paula Maol or something in his prime,

989
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 2: like at the end of the day, once he gets

990
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:26,799
Speaker 2: to a certain level, like your mom can coach that guy.

991
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:29,160
Speaker 2: It's finding like the C players and making him a B.

992
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:31,600
Speaker 2: It's finding the B minus guy and making him a

993
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:34,319
Speaker 2: B plus A minus. It's finding a random like D

994
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:36,799
Speaker 2: plus C minus guy and like, shit, you made that

995
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 2: guy a B.

996
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:38,560
Speaker 1: That's coaching.

997
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:40,880
Speaker 2: What Aaron Glenn and Robert Saul It's like they can

998
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:44,600
Speaker 2: kind of take anybody when they're coordinators, Like that's impressive

999
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:46,560
Speaker 2: because clearly if I give them, like what do you

1000
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:49,200
Speaker 2: think it's gonna look like? If I give Aaron Glenn,

1001
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:52,560
Speaker 2: Miles Garrett, Max Crosby and Aaron Donald, this defense gonna

1002
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:54,719
Speaker 2: be awesome. But I've seen him like take random guys,

1003
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:57,440
Speaker 2: seen Robert Sala take random guys, so you know you

1004
00:44:57,480 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 2: can do it and then you just become the CEO.

1005
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:02,960
Speaker 1: Like it's gotta be a weird feeling for those guys.

1006
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:05,600
Speaker 2: I think kind of just sitting there like during the week,

1007
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:07,560
Speaker 2: I know they're probably going to meetings and stuff, but

1008
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 2: I think that's just where you get you're typically taking

1009
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:12,920
Speaker 2: a head coaching job on a bad team.

1010
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 1: You're gonna lose that.

1011
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:16,520
Speaker 2: People start pointing fingers, Your owner gets pissed, the fans

1012
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:19,399
Speaker 2: get loud. This league has never been louder. I mean

1013
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:22,920
Speaker 2: one thing, talking to someone who was I talking to

1014
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:27,400
Speaker 2: about this? I asked a coach earlier today, Like, what's changed?

1015
00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:32,440
Speaker 2: We're now football is the number one television show in America,

1016
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:34,640
Speaker 2: not the number one we talked about the number one sport.

1017
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:36,759
Speaker 2: It's the number one television show. And it's like a

1018
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 2: lot of this, a lot of social media that gets

1019
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:42,239
Speaker 2: put on the players and it becomes content. It's all

1020
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:45,920
Speaker 2: like under the same umbrella. That world can overwhelm you

1021
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:49,279
Speaker 2: when you're losing. And when you're like Aaron Glenn you

1022
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:50,040
Speaker 2: go to the Jets.

1023
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 1: It's already negative.

1024
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 2: It's not his fault, he didn't do all the previous crap,

1025
00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:56,880
Speaker 2: but like he has to deal with that like tsunami

1026
00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:58,560
Speaker 2: and negativity and fend it off.

1027
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 1: So you have no equity with them as.

1028
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:05,279
Speaker 2: A coach because you've never coached there, right, you've just

1029
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 2: been an assistant coach.

1030
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:08,799
Speaker 1: Then you get there, and my if I was a

1031
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:10,560
Speaker 1: just fan to be like, well, why didn't these call

1032
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:11,839
Speaker 1: plays last year? Like what are we doing?

1033
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:14,480
Speaker 2: You already got to deal with Woody, we don't have

1034
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:15,200
Speaker 2: a quarterback.

1035
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:16,640
Speaker 1: It just gets weird.

1036
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:19,440
Speaker 2: And I think that's the thing in the NFL why

1037
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:21,000
Speaker 2: the good teams stay good and it's hard for the

1038
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:22,640
Speaker 2: bad teams to get out because it's hard to get

1039
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:24,040
Speaker 2: from like weird to just normal.

1040
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:25,279
Speaker 1: It's really hard to get.

1041
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:27,040
Speaker 2: Like it's gonna be a hard job for solving those

1042
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 2: guys in Tennessee just to get the train back on

1043
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:31,480
Speaker 2: the tracks, Like spy TeX's number one job is just

1044
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:35,040
Speaker 2: to get the train back on the tracks. You look

1045
00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:39,120
Speaker 2: at like McVeigh or John Schneider or Howie like they're like,

1046
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:41,360
Speaker 2: how do we win three playoff games? Like that's what

1047
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:43,800
Speaker 2: they're thinking. So other teams are like, how do we

1048
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:44,720
Speaker 2: win eight games?

1049
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:47,360
Speaker 1: How do we win? That's that's why John Harbaugh got

1050
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:51,320
Speaker 1: one hundred dollars or one hundred million dollars, one hundred dollars.

1051
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:54,279
Speaker 2: Because the Giants go, you know what John Harbaugh minimum, like,

1052
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:57,799
Speaker 2: worst case scenario next year, we're probably like eight wins, and.

1053
00:46:57,840 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 1: If it goes decent and we stay kind of healthy,

1054
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:01,880
Speaker 1: we're like ten or eleven and we feel great.

1055
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:04,759
Speaker 2: And when you hire some of these coordinators who have

1056
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:07,279
Speaker 2: never been coaches, even you know, Aaron Glenn's former high

1057
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:08,160
Speaker 2: end player.

1058
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:11,879
Speaker 1: You played dB. Yeah, the finished with zero picks this year, right,

1059
00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:16,000
Speaker 1: that's a hit. That record will never be broken. One.

1060
00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:19,400
Speaker 1: It's impossible with the extra games. It's crazy. I remember

1061
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:25,359
Speaker 1: hearing Richard Sherman talk, See, that's like impossible, that's impossible.

1062
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:27,360
Speaker 1: Like think of the balls in football.

1063
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:29,239
Speaker 2: If we just went out and played a pickup game,

1064
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:32,239
Speaker 2: balls get tip, balls hit in the air, and they

1065
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:35,120
Speaker 2: had sauce for enough. Sauce isn't exactly Dione when it

1066
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:37,680
Speaker 2: comes to picks, but still I felt like the Texans

1067
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:41,839
Speaker 2: had like three picks a game. I just think that

1068
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:45,160
Speaker 2: I remember telling Coward this last year after coming here.

1069
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:47,799
Speaker 1: Is the difference of just like.

1070
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:50,400
Speaker 2: The well run button up operations, like the one thing

1071
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:52,520
Speaker 2: the Eagles are good at, like there's always drama, but

1072
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:54,680
Speaker 2: like how he kind of likes that. But they're just

1073
00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:57,200
Speaker 2: like they're a well run button up machine Seattle. It's

1074
00:47:57,200 --> 00:47:59,960
Speaker 2: like a well run button ub machine. I think the

1075
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:01,880
Speaker 2: I think part of the reason Tomlin got out was

1076
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:03,920
Speaker 2: like we're no longer that like things.

1077
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:08,480
Speaker 1: Are weird, you know, and the Ravens they're just mintory.

1078
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:11,520
Speaker 1: You see him, he's tiny. I missed him. Oh he's tiny.

1079
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:15,759
Speaker 1: I was like that guy's head coach. But he's clearly good.

1080
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:17,200
Speaker 1: But the Ravens are a good example.

1081
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:20,240
Speaker 2: They're just like well run, you know, they're just really

1082
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:21,279
Speaker 2: really well run.

1083
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:23,799
Speaker 1: And when you just will really well run.

1084
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:28,279
Speaker 2: Weird stories when someone gets in trouble, it doesn't like

1085
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:31,000
Speaker 2: derail your franchise when you're bad like that stuff can

1086
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:31,480
Speaker 2: just like.

1087
00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:35,640
Speaker 4: Does it kind of put appreciation on how fast Chicago

1088
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:36,320
Speaker 4: flipped it around.

1089
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:37,920
Speaker 1: Obviously it was the Ben Johnson higher, but.

1090
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:40,279
Speaker 4: The guys want to I mean go to go from

1091
00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:44,160
Speaker 4: Eberflus to Ben Johnson and then the progress that they

1092
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 4: had you talk about all these other organizations that can't

1093
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:49,319
Speaker 4: make that progress. I think it just tip the cap

1094
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:52,000
Speaker 4: of It was the obvious choice, but the selling point

1095
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:53,200
Speaker 4: of them to get Ben Johnson.

1096
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:55,359
Speaker 2: You got to give credit for Ryan, but there aren't

1097
00:48:55,360 --> 00:49:01,120
Speaker 2: that many Ben Johnson every year, right like obviously Harbaugh

1098
00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:04,000
Speaker 2: this year, Tomlin next year. You have the guys that

1099
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:06,840
Speaker 2: are established, guys have been head coaches, and then people

1100
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:11,200
Speaker 2: want to hire. But anytime you get like McVeigh and

1101
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:14,640
Speaker 2: Shanahan years ago, Ben Johnson now some of the Kevin

1102
00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:17,960
Speaker 2: O'Connell you don't know, you hope, and now that some

1103
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:19,480
Speaker 2: of them have done it, you think everyone's gonna be

1104
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:22,480
Speaker 2: the next one, and they're not. So I think part

1105
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:26,920
Speaker 2: of it was Ben was just gonna be great where here,

1106
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:28,719
Speaker 2: Like he's just legit, you know.

1107
00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:30,760
Speaker 1: And Caleb.

1108
00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:36,239
Speaker 2: His physical skills, like part of the reason you saw

1109
00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:38,560
Speaker 2: as the year went on, White got drafted number one overall.

1110
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:41,600
Speaker 2: He could do things that like Josh Allen only could.

1111
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:44,719
Speaker 2: So it's like they had this magic and Caleb because

1112
00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:46,680
Speaker 2: they weren't losing a lot of these games. You know,

1113
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:48,960
Speaker 2: they were down in a lot of these games and

1114
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:49,960
Speaker 2: pulling them out.

1115
00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:54,279
Speaker 1: And like most of their games were not the.

1116
00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:56,759
Speaker 2: Eagles on Black Friday where they just beat the shit

1117
00:49:56,800 --> 00:49:58,200
Speaker 2: out of them. They ran a lot of their games.

1118
00:49:58,239 --> 00:49:59,440
Speaker 2: I felt like they were down ten points in the

1119
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:01,879
Speaker 2: fourth quarter and Caleb like he's playing the best throw

1120
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:03,879
Speaker 2: of the year, and then he'd watch again next year

1121
00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:05,480
Speaker 2: or next week he'd be like, oh no, that's a

1122
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:07,640
Speaker 2: better throw and then he'd do it over and over.

1123
00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:09,960
Speaker 2: So like they had the magic, but they had a

1124
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:12,600
Speaker 2: guy that was drafted number one overall, and with that

1125
00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:15,120
Speaker 2: trade they also had DJ Moore and because they were

1126
00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:18,040
Speaker 2: shitty last year they had they were able to get

1127
00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:19,960
Speaker 2: leveling at ten, So I mean they did have some

1128
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:23,640
Speaker 2: good talent. I talked to Poles today. Poles had a

1129
00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:26,920
Speaker 2: good point. He's like, like, did you know Caleb? He

1130
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:29,480
Speaker 2: loves Caleb, right, those articles have come out like he

1131
00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:32,040
Speaker 2: was saved his job. I said, did you know he

1132
00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:35,400
Speaker 2: was that fast? He's like, I knew it was really fast,

1133
00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:38,239
Speaker 2: but he's like the one his best skill, because I

1134
00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:39,759
Speaker 2: was like, how fast do you think he is? If he

1135
00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:42,080
Speaker 2: just ran a forty? And he was started telling me like,

1136
00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:43,920
Speaker 2: we didn't even look at forties anymore because we look

1137
00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:47,200
Speaker 2: at play speed on like the GPS stuff, and we

1138
00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:49,319
Speaker 2: have enough years of data now to know like what

1139
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:52,279
Speaker 2: it means. Because before, like when at first year one,

1140
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:54,320
Speaker 2: if a guy runs twenty miles an hour, like what

1141
00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:57,160
Speaker 2: does that mean? It's twenty fast twenty slow? But now

1142
00:50:57,200 --> 00:50:59,400
Speaker 2: you know like twenty one, twenty two. He's like Tyreek

1143
00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:02,880
Speaker 2: ran a number than No. One Eclipse, right, But Caleb's

1144
00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:06,040
Speaker 2: best skill, he was saying, it's clear when you watch

1145
00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:10,480
Speaker 2: him is like the ten yard bursts, so it feels

1146
00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:14,840
Speaker 2: like he's Lamar because he can he can stop and

1147
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:16,920
Speaker 2: then just accelerate like an F one car. And that's

1148
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:19,960
Speaker 2: why he doesn't get sacked because it's like someone's around him.

1149
00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:23,319
Speaker 2: And then his bursts like seven to twelve yards, he's

1150
00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:25,080
Speaker 2: like shot out of rocket ship, and all of a sudden,

1151
00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:27,680
Speaker 2: it's like he's way away from this guy. So he's

1152
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:31,080
Speaker 2: not then running probably like Saquon Barkley, but he's so

1153
00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:33,600
Speaker 2: quick in that short area that he feels like he's

1154
00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:35,000
Speaker 2: because I was like, does he running like a four

1155
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:37,760
Speaker 2: to four flat? It's like no, but he's His short

1156
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:42,360
Speaker 2: area quickness and change the direction is pretty elite would

1157
00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:42,759
Speaker 2: be it.

1158
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:44,440
Speaker 1: Would have to. I don't think. I don't think he

1159
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:45,439
Speaker 1: did any of nine.

1160
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:49,800
Speaker 2: No, But that's where it's like, that's why this week,

1161
00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:52,640
Speaker 2: and people push back, right like what does it mean?

1162
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:56,520
Speaker 2: Like what does it matter? Like the times you're paid

1163
00:51:56,520 --> 00:52:01,479
Speaker 2: to play football, not short shuttle lift, But that shit

1164
00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:04,120
Speaker 2: does come up in big moments in big games. So

1165
00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:07,399
Speaker 2: like Caleb's explosion and his arm strength, how many times

1166
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:08,600
Speaker 2: that matter for the Bears this year?

1167
00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:10,600
Speaker 1: One hundred and fifty times?

1168
00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:14,359
Speaker 2: Yeah? Oh yeah, Like you know certain guys that have

1169
00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:18,920
Speaker 2: short arms. Last year, what's his name from the LSU Campbell?

1170
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:23,719
Speaker 2: He got destroyed in every game. Like Will Anderson looked

1171
00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:26,960
Speaker 2: like Lawrence Taylor in his prime. Now was he injured?

1172
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:29,239
Speaker 2: Like there are more variables that we don't know, but

1173
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:31,400
Speaker 2: like the arm length.

1174
00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:33,600
Speaker 1: The speed, the explosion.

1175
00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:35,880
Speaker 2: Arm strength when you're playing in these freezing cold games.

1176
00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:40,440
Speaker 2: Far have played in the frozen tundra. Do you know

1177
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:42,120
Speaker 2: how hard it is to throw a ball.

1178
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:44,160
Speaker 1: When it's that cold. Well, when your arm strength is elite,

1179
00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:45,200
Speaker 1: you need it.

1180
00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:47,800
Speaker 2: So why a lot of the cold weather quarterbacks mcnap

1181
00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:50,960
Speaker 2: cold weather quarterback Eli Manning, cold weather quarterback Brady cold

1182
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:51,919
Speaker 2: weather quarterback.

1183
00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:53,920
Speaker 1: Roethlisberg or Flacco? What are they all have in common?

1184
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:55,120
Speaker 1: Big arms?

1185
00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:57,480
Speaker 2: Philip Rivers did not have a big arm, could not

1186
00:52:57,520 --> 00:52:59,000
Speaker 2: have played in the prime of his career and been

1187
00:52:59,040 --> 00:52:59,600
Speaker 2: the same player.

1188
00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:01,600
Speaker 1: And like Cincinnati, the.

1189
00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:03,320
Speaker 2: Burrow's kind of an outlier because he doesn't have a

1190
00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:04,760
Speaker 2: huge arm, but he's.

1191
00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:06,319
Speaker 1: Like Joe Montana's feel his touch.

1192
00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:08,600
Speaker 2: But like to me to play in a lot of

1193
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:11,680
Speaker 2: these places, Chicago Tryo had multiple games. It was like

1194
00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:13,480
Speaker 2: that looks like the coldest game in the history of

1195
00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:15,880
Speaker 2: cold games and they're like, yeah, it's like the seventeenth

1196
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:17,719
Speaker 2: coldest game in the history of the Bears. I'm like, yeah,

1197
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:21,920
Speaker 2: that's a gold So Josh Allen, he plays in Buffalo,

1198
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:23,960
Speaker 2: like perty can get away with it. In San Francisco

1199
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:26,759
Speaker 2: they play in a lot of warmer weather games. They

1200
00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:30,160
Speaker 2: play La Seattle's not that cold. You can't get away

1201
00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:33,000
Speaker 2: with it. Like they play a dome here. Imagine they

1202
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:35,040
Speaker 2: didn't play a dome here. This plays to be fucking freezing,

1203
00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:35,400
Speaker 2: wouldn't it.

1204
00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:38,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, you text me when you landed in at eleven pm,

1205
00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:39,840
Speaker 4: You're like, this is ant Arniga.

1206
00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:41,040
Speaker 1: You know what they called this place? Right?

1207
00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:44,359
Speaker 2: No, the house Peyton built because this did not when

1208
00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:48,600
Speaker 2: he got here this, I mean this franchise. He made

1209
00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:52,280
Speaker 2: them like you guys know the Midwest, Like he turned

1210
00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:54,640
Speaker 2: this thing in like what Jordan did to the bulls.

1211
00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:56,960
Speaker 1: What you know, Midwest? He fucking put this place on

1212
00:53:57,000 --> 00:53:57,560
Speaker 1: the map.

1213
00:53:57,600 --> 00:53:59,000
Speaker 4: Did they have Lucas oil before?

1214
00:53:59,280 --> 00:53:59,320
Speaker 3: No?

1215
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:00,200
Speaker 1: Oh?

1216
00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:04,120
Speaker 2: No, I think it was like two ninety nine, two

1217
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:09,840
Speaker 2: thousand range he got drafted like ninety seven ninety eight,

1218
00:54:10,719 --> 00:54:12,319
Speaker 2: You guys, was there another shit?

1219
00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:13,080
Speaker 1: Was it indoors?

1220
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:16,320
Speaker 2: It was crappy indoors stadium, like Peyton, Manning is a

1221
00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:19,000
Speaker 2: good but Peyton's a good example. If I put if

1222
00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:25,920
Speaker 2: I flip flop Peyton and Tom. Tom was not as

1223
00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:28,680
Speaker 2: good early, he got way better and then became like dominant.

1224
00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:32,719
Speaker 2: But who knows Peyton could coach himself immediately. Peyton never

1225
00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:35,399
Speaker 2: had a big arm, so he's more in that Drew

1226
00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:38,480
Speaker 2: Brees category of like you play in the dome, Look

1227
00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:41,000
Speaker 2: how much easier it is. We're in a place that

1228
00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:43,480
Speaker 2: I don't It's not as cold today, but yesterday, let's

1229
00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:46,279
Speaker 2: say it was twenty degrees. Playing a game in this

1230
00:54:46,719 --> 00:54:48,480
Speaker 2: or going outside and playing a game in that, It's like,

1231
00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:51,040
Speaker 2: it's not even relatable. And I'm a West Coast guy.

1232
00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:52,160
Speaker 1: I fucking hate the cold.

1233
00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:53,640
Speaker 2: But I lived in Philly for a couple of years,

1234
00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:56,560
Speaker 2: and I remember my first year in Philly, right around November.

1235
00:54:56,640 --> 00:54:59,200
Speaker 1: Even once it gets to like thirty, you're like you

1236
00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:00,360
Speaker 1: start playing a different sport.

1237
00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:06,000
Speaker 2: The offensive and defensive lineman unfaced, the quarterback dramatically faced,

1238
00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:07,239
Speaker 2: and the wide receivers are too.

1239
00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:08,960
Speaker 1: Like the Bears drop a lot of balls.

1240
00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:11,920
Speaker 2: You know, hard is to catch a ninety nine mile

1241
00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:15,160
Speaker 2: hour fastball from Caleb far a bunch of good draws.

1242
00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:17,359
Speaker 1: In the freezing. I can't. I don't even I don't

1243
00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:18,040
Speaker 1: even blame him.

1244
00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:20,920
Speaker 2: So people like he dropped it him, Like, yeah, Jerry

1245
00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:22,040
Speaker 2: Rice might catch that.

1246
00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:24,480
Speaker 4: Maybe there's so many like five yard outs on like

1247
00:55:24,520 --> 00:55:27,080
Speaker 4: third and six or third and four or whatever, and

1248
00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:29,640
Speaker 4: Luther Burden's running or a dunees they or DJ Moore

1249
00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:32,399
Speaker 4: and he's just slinging it right past their hands.

1250
00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:35,920
Speaker 2: I can't even imagine the feeling on those guys hands,

1251
00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:41,640
Speaker 2: Like it has to be they have to dread wide

1252
00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:42,840
Speaker 2: receivers like playing in warm.

1253
00:55:42,680 --> 00:55:45,680
Speaker 1: Weather places right or domes. Yeah, like if you're a

1254
00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:46,240
Speaker 1: wide receiver.

1255
00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:49,200
Speaker 2: I mean, let's face the Patriots sitting exact and they

1256
00:55:49,239 --> 00:55:51,160
Speaker 2: had a little Randy Mossley traded for him at the

1257
00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:53,799
Speaker 2: you know when he was worth a fourth round pick.

1258
00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:56,520
Speaker 2: Most of these guys, you know want I mean, look

1259
00:55:56,520 --> 00:56:00,080
Speaker 2: at the best receivers, Puka Jasam and.

1260
00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:05,080
Speaker 1: Jamar Chase. Somewhat of an outlier. He would translate.

1261
00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:08,759
Speaker 2: His style translates anyway, justin Jefferson, you know, indoor guy.

1262
00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:11,040
Speaker 1: They've had great receivers from Minnesota.

1263
00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:14,359
Speaker 2: Indoor Randy, You're just gonna dominate if if you put

1264
00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:18,320
Speaker 2: Jamar Chase in like the Rams, CD and Piggins. It's

1265
00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:21,600
Speaker 2: it's incredible place to play in a dome. Look at

1266
00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:23,840
Speaker 2: all the stats that Breeze put up forever, Mike Evans

1267
00:56:23,840 --> 00:56:27,600
Speaker 2: Hall of Famer. It's waser to play in seventy five degrees.

1268
00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:31,000
Speaker 2: You think Mike evis free agent, You think.

1269
00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:31,840
Speaker 1: He's gonna go to New England?

1270
00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:33,200
Speaker 2: Like fuck that?

1271
00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:35,439
Speaker 1: Well, what did see?

1272
00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:38,400
Speaker 2: Jason Light said that we want to do everything possible

1273
00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:39,600
Speaker 2: to make him retire a buck.

1274
00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:44,319
Speaker 1: And this is I was having a long conversation at

1275
00:56:44,320 --> 00:56:46,719
Speaker 1: the Volume party with Sherman.

1276
00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:51,520
Speaker 2: And I was talking to Uh, you know, they took

1277
00:56:51,560 --> 00:56:54,600
Speaker 2: a lot of pride, that whole crew like resurrected Seattle

1278
00:56:55,640 --> 00:56:57,799
Speaker 2: and they were Johnson. I didn't ask him this, but

1279
00:56:58,040 --> 00:57:00,440
Speaker 2: I saw john say on something recently. He's like the

1280
00:57:00,440 --> 00:57:04,719
Speaker 2: difference of that group and my group now was like

1281
00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:08,040
Speaker 2: that group hated everybody, like they had a chip on

1282
00:57:08,080 --> 00:57:11,759
Speaker 2: their shoulder a mile like they were fucking angry. They

1283
00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:14,880
Speaker 2: had an edge to them, which kind of old school NFL.

1284
00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:18,040
Speaker 2: Those guys in like this modern internet era, they were

1285
00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:19,680
Speaker 2: kind of like more of a team like I grew

1286
00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:22,520
Speaker 2: up on like nineteen eighty four. He said, my team

1287
00:57:22,560 --> 00:57:24,440
Speaker 2: now is like happy, they're all good buddies. Like that

1288
00:57:24,520 --> 00:57:27,000
Speaker 2: team Richard Sherman, like four all.

1289
00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:28,720
Speaker 1: Pros, still had a chip on his shoulder, like you

1290
00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:29,440
Speaker 1: passed on me.

1291
00:57:29,560 --> 00:57:32,040
Speaker 2: It's like Richard, you're making like twenty million dollars a year,

1292
00:57:32,080 --> 00:57:33,320
Speaker 2: your best corner in the league.

1293
00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:34,680
Speaker 1: But that's just how they were all camped.

1294
00:57:34,680 --> 00:57:42,720
Speaker 2: They were edgy, and I think there is just as

1295
00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:45,480
Speaker 2: you get older, you know, and you come into the

1296
00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:49,480
Speaker 2: league and you're a stud and you start getting bad,

1297
00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:51,160
Speaker 2: it can be hard to handle.

1298
00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:51,920
Speaker 1: You know.

1299
00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:55,160
Speaker 2: I think a lot of players, you know, you come in,

1300
00:57:55,280 --> 00:57:56,840
Speaker 2: it's like the Sam Darnold thing.

1301
00:57:57,520 --> 00:57:58,560
Speaker 1: He went through a lot of shit.

1302
00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:02,680
Speaker 2: And back to my original point is like talking to

1303
00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:06,560
Speaker 2: Richard about it, all those guys Bobby Wagner, Cam Chancellor,

1304
00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:09,800
Speaker 2: Earl Thomas flipped off Pete as he was getting like,

1305
00:58:10,320 --> 00:58:11,960
Speaker 2: uh carted off the field.

1306
00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:14,040
Speaker 1: I think it's harder for them to accept.

1307
00:58:14,040 --> 00:58:16,960
Speaker 2: Like the NFL, like everyone fall great, Peyton Manning was

1308
00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:20,920
Speaker 2: cut twice technically, you know, it's just like this league's

1309
00:58:20,920 --> 00:58:23,760
Speaker 2: pretty cutthroat, and you know you can fall off the cliff.

1310
00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:26,880
Speaker 2: Some guys like Rogers can play to the forty. Some

1311
00:58:26,920 --> 00:58:30,280
Speaker 2: guys like Peaking like twenty seven and it can end immediately,

1312
00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:32,640
Speaker 2: and it's back to the Trent Williams thing that we

1313
00:58:32,680 --> 00:58:35,360
Speaker 2: open with, So why don't blame Trent? Like Trent could

1314
00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:38,200
Speaker 2: Shatter's legging game one, his career could be over. So

1315
00:58:38,240 --> 00:58:41,520
Speaker 2: it's like you gotta you don't get these like Steph

1316
00:58:41,560 --> 00:58:43,600
Speaker 2: Curry three hundred million dollars max content. That's not really

1317
00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:46,640
Speaker 2: how football works. Most of these contracts are fake. And

1318
00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:50,400
Speaker 2: I just think that that's Seattle team back. I mean

1319
00:58:50,440 --> 00:58:51,280
Speaker 2: I saw them live.

1320
00:58:51,360 --> 00:58:54,560
Speaker 1: They would it was not a safe environment to be

1321
00:58:54,640 --> 00:58:55,200
Speaker 1: running around.

1322
00:58:56,240 --> 00:58:59,360
Speaker 2: Really, I think you would. Vernon Davis was massive, that

1323
00:58:59,520 --> 00:59:02,840
Speaker 2: historic Cam Chancellor. Vernon Davis is not like size of

1324
00:59:02,920 --> 00:59:05,600
Speaker 2: me or you like this guy's like six. Vernon Davis

1325
00:59:05,640 --> 00:59:07,680
Speaker 2: was tight end who ran a four to two and

1326
00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:09,080
Speaker 2: was the fifth pick in the draft.

1327
00:59:09,320 --> 00:59:12,479
Speaker 1: Six six, five two fifty can run like Tyreek Hill

1328
00:59:13,040 --> 00:59:17,440
Speaker 1: and Cam Chansllor ended his career. I mean most people.

1329
00:59:18,440 --> 00:59:21,120
Speaker 2: There was a famous Brian Dawkins hit where Brian Dawkins

1330
00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:25,280
Speaker 2: hit I think Algie Crumpler on the Falcons. But they

1331
00:59:25,320 --> 00:59:28,360
Speaker 2: both went like that, you know, even you know Algie

1332
00:59:28,400 --> 00:59:32,240
Speaker 2: was bigger than Dawkins, like Cam went that way and Davis.

1333
00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:33,440
Speaker 1: I think he's still flying.

1334
00:59:34,080 --> 00:59:36,760
Speaker 2: I missed the violence of football as someone that you

1335
00:59:36,760 --> 00:59:37,840
Speaker 2: know got flagged.

1336
00:59:38,120 --> 00:59:53,120
Speaker 1: I just I just missed that level. Let me add

1337
00:59:53,200 --> 00:59:53,600
Speaker 1: this one.

1338
00:59:53,720 --> 00:59:57,680
Speaker 4: Last one just happened while we're recording. Broncos head coach

1339
00:59:57,680 --> 01:00:01,080
Speaker 4: Sean Payne announced that new offensive coordinator Davis Webb will

1340
01:00:01,080 --> 01:00:02,800
Speaker 4: call offensive plays in twenty twenty six.

1341
01:00:04,800 --> 01:00:06,800
Speaker 1: So I think it's fair too glean.

1342
01:00:07,960 --> 01:00:10,600
Speaker 2: That there was a decent chance of Davis Webb leaving

1343
01:00:10,680 --> 01:00:12,480
Speaker 2: last year getting a head coaching job, even if he

1344
01:00:12,520 --> 01:00:14,560
Speaker 2: had to take one of the crappy ones, the Browns,

1345
01:00:14,600 --> 01:00:20,400
Speaker 2: the Cardinals. Sean fires his best friend. I can't even

1346
01:00:20,440 --> 01:00:22,720
Speaker 2: think of his name, but remember the dude went on.

1347
01:00:24,320 --> 01:00:25,960
Speaker 2: He was quoted like the next day He's like, yeah,

1348
01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:27,640
Speaker 2: I thought we were just in the AFC Championship game.

1349
01:00:27,640 --> 01:00:28,920
Speaker 2: I thought we were pretty good this year. The night

1350
01:00:29,000 --> 01:00:31,760
Speaker 2: Shaan's pissed off and fired me, it'd be like best friend.

1351
01:00:31,800 --> 01:00:33,600
Speaker 2: They worked together for like twenty years. I can look

1352
01:00:33,640 --> 01:00:36,040
Speaker 2: it up, but I bet Davis is like, I don't

1353
01:00:36,040 --> 01:00:37,720
Speaker 2: want to take the Cardinal job or the Browns job,

1354
01:00:37,880 --> 01:00:39,960
Speaker 2: but it's the head coaching job. They'll pay me a

1355
01:00:39,960 --> 01:00:43,000
Speaker 2: bunch of money. Sean's like you call place here and

1356
01:00:43,280 --> 01:00:45,360
Speaker 2: they got Walmart money. He's probably making a lot of money.

1357
01:00:45,880 --> 01:00:51,920
Speaker 2: But Joe Lombardi, Yeah, Joe Lombardi, I think it's pretty

1358
01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:56,000
Speaker 2: clear that they there were some concessions there with we

1359
01:00:56,040 --> 01:00:59,480
Speaker 2: don't want you to leave, you probably kind of want

1360
01:00:59,520 --> 01:01:03,680
Speaker 2: to stay. Hear, But like they're again, money's all relative.

1361
01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:05,760
Speaker 2: If you're making fifty grand, if someone offers you two

1362
01:01:05,800 --> 01:01:07,880
Speaker 2: hundred grand, or you're like Davis Webb making a million

1363
01:01:07,880 --> 01:01:10,640
Speaker 2: and someone offers you six, it's like, yeah, man, what

1364
01:01:10,680 --> 01:01:11,680
Speaker 2: am I supposed tell my wife?

1365
01:01:11,800 --> 01:01:11,920
Speaker 1: Uh?

1366
01:01:12,840 --> 01:01:15,760
Speaker 2: You know this that how our house could quadruple in size?

1367
01:01:15,760 --> 01:01:18,640
Speaker 2: And the private school is no longer an issue. So

1368
01:01:19,040 --> 01:01:21,960
Speaker 2: I just think that they didn't have a choice. I

1369
01:01:22,200 --> 01:01:25,400
Speaker 2: think that was one of those where Davis was almost

1370
01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:26,040
Speaker 2: like a player.

1371
01:01:26,880 --> 01:01:30,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, how is it? What is he thirty? I remember

1372
01:01:30,160 --> 01:01:31,640
Speaker 1: when he was at cow Do you remember he was

1373
01:01:31,680 --> 01:01:35,920
Speaker 1: like the first transfer. Yeah, he was at like SMU

1374
01:01:36,200 --> 01:01:37,880
Speaker 1: or Texas Tech. Texas Tech.

1375
01:01:38,160 --> 01:01:40,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, Sonny Dykes was the coach and he was a

1376
01:01:40,560 --> 01:01:43,640
Speaker 2: grad transfer, and people for a lot of yards, people

1377
01:01:43,680 --> 01:01:46,280
Speaker 2: thought because he's tall. I think people thought like this

1378
01:01:46,280 --> 01:01:48,040
Speaker 2: guy could be like a top twenty pick, and then

1379
01:01:48,080 --> 01:01:50,800
Speaker 2: he was I think he went like the third, fourth,

1380
01:01:50,840 --> 01:01:53,360
Speaker 2: fifth round somewhere, played in the league for like three

1381
01:01:53,400 --> 01:01:55,800
Speaker 2: or four years. I think he's a lot like Sean Manning.

1382
01:01:55,800 --> 01:01:58,880
Speaker 2: You see a lot of these quarterbacks that played in

1383
01:01:58,960 --> 01:02:02,280
Speaker 2: like the late two thousands, early twenty tens, or like

1384
01:02:02,440 --> 01:02:05,640
Speaker 2: calling plays. Sean Manion played at Oregon State not that

1385
01:02:05,720 --> 01:02:08,800
Speaker 2: long ago. Davis Webb was in college in the twenty tens.

1386
01:02:09,000 --> 01:02:12,000
Speaker 2: Him and Brandon Cooks were so sweet packed twelve after dark.

1387
01:02:12,200 --> 01:02:12,880
Speaker 1: Sean Maney in.

1388
01:02:12,880 --> 01:02:15,600
Speaker 2: A year before they had Wheaton two. So when Cooks

1389
01:02:15,680 --> 01:02:17,520
Speaker 2: was a sophomore and Wheaton who got.

1390
01:02:17,440 --> 01:02:19,960
Speaker 1: Drafted in the third round the Steelers or State, it

1391
01:02:20,000 --> 01:02:21,160
Speaker 1: was pretty nasty for Governor.

1392
01:02:21,360 --> 01:02:24,240
Speaker 2: On offense, they had thet uh the little brothers, the

1393
01:02:24,360 --> 01:02:26,240
Speaker 2: running backs, little twins, remember those.

1394
01:02:26,400 --> 01:02:27,760
Speaker 1: I know what you're talking about. I don't know the name.

1395
01:02:27,880 --> 01:02:29,480
Speaker 1: I want to say Rodriguez, but it's not.

1396
01:02:31,320 --> 01:02:34,160
Speaker 2: Jack Quz is two of them, you know what I'm

1397
01:02:34,160 --> 01:02:37,080
Speaker 2: talking about, James and jack Ques. Jack Ques I think

1398
01:02:37,160 --> 01:02:38,720
Speaker 2: was the better one. One of them was better than

1399
01:02:38,720 --> 01:02:40,360
Speaker 2: the other one, but they were both kind of sick.

1400
01:02:40,880 --> 01:02:43,840
Speaker 2: They their offenses at Oregon State. Honestly, it pissed me

1401
01:02:43,840 --> 01:02:50,120
Speaker 2: off even talking about the littles, Yeah, Rogers, yeah, Jock.

1402
01:02:50,360 --> 01:02:50,880
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1403
01:02:50,920 --> 01:02:56,320
Speaker 2: So Oregon State always got like uh pre nil and

1404
01:02:56,360 --> 01:02:59,560
Speaker 2: probably like thirty years ago, Fristen State did this a

1405
01:02:59,600 --> 01:03:03,440
Speaker 2: lot too. To get into like play at USC or

1406
01:03:03,520 --> 01:03:08,360
Speaker 2: UCLA or Washington. There were minimum requirements academically, like you

1407
01:03:08,400 --> 01:03:10,480
Speaker 2: had to hit something. Frislee State could do this thing,

1408
01:03:10,480 --> 01:03:12,160
Speaker 2: and Oregon State did it too, called like a prop.

1409
01:03:12,240 --> 01:03:14,439
Speaker 2: I think it was like Prop forty nine. I don't

1410
01:03:14,480 --> 01:03:17,160
Speaker 2: think Logan Mankins might not have graduated high school, but

1411
01:03:17,240 --> 01:03:18,920
Speaker 2: Forrest State would be like, you just come to school here.

1412
01:03:19,000 --> 01:03:22,880
Speaker 2: Ryan Matthews when I was there, he couldn't like they

1413
01:03:22,920 --> 01:03:26,080
Speaker 2: could take these exceptions. Oregon State did it forever, Chad Johnson.

1414
01:03:26,200 --> 01:03:28,880
Speaker 2: You get guys into school obviously, all the.

1415
01:03:28,880 --> 01:03:29,720
Speaker 1: Like Ryan Matthews.

1416
01:03:29,720 --> 01:03:31,960
Speaker 2: Pete Carroll wanted Ryan Mathews out of high school, but

1417
01:03:32,040 --> 01:03:36,440
Speaker 2: he like academically didn't qualify. Now it's like, I swear

1418
01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:38,320
Speaker 2: to God, no one goes to school in college because

1419
01:03:38,320 --> 01:03:41,120
Speaker 2: you can't tell me all these transfers as any you

1420
01:03:41,160 --> 01:03:43,120
Speaker 2: ever look at your your transcript when you're in college,

1421
01:03:43,200 --> 01:03:44,480
Speaker 2: like this would never transfer.

1422
01:03:44,880 --> 01:03:47,280
Speaker 1: I don't even think do transcripts even exist if you.

1423
01:03:47,240 --> 01:03:49,520
Speaker 2: Play college football, they cannot know this dude will go

1424
01:03:49,600 --> 01:03:53,120
Speaker 2: from like Stanford or like Texas Tech to Stanford to

1425
01:03:53,240 --> 01:03:54,640
Speaker 2: Vanderbilt Tobama.

1426
01:03:54,760 --> 01:03:58,360
Speaker 1: It's like, how resol these classes? Some of these people are.

1427
01:03:58,240 --> 01:04:02,040
Speaker 2: In quarters and semesters? Like what is when I was

1428
01:04:02,040 --> 01:04:08,040
Speaker 2: a GA at present state? Transcripts and test scores? Can

1429
01:04:08,080 --> 01:04:10,160
Speaker 2: you imagine the last time Kirby Smart asked, like his

1430
01:04:10,240 --> 01:04:12,520
Speaker 2: recruiting coordinator, what's his test score?

1431
01:04:12,760 --> 01:04:12,840
Speaker 3: Like?

1432
01:04:13,000 --> 01:04:18,480
Speaker 2: Sat No fucking chance anyone in the SEC has ever uttered,

1433
01:04:18,520 --> 01:04:21,840
Speaker 2: like what's his transcript look like? In the last seven years?

1434
01:04:21,840 --> 01:04:23,960
Speaker 2: Maybe ever, but definitely in the transfer portal era.

1435
01:04:25,840 --> 01:04:29,320
Speaker 1: That's so funny. I can't like the Bailey guy. I

1436
01:04:29,360 --> 01:04:31,840
Speaker 1: didn't realize is David Bailey. Yeah, a Stanford.

1437
01:04:32,240 --> 01:04:35,240
Speaker 2: He's an easy one because you're at Stanford. They have

1438
01:04:35,320 --> 01:04:36,480
Speaker 2: academic requirements.

1439
01:04:38,040 --> 01:04:39,919
Speaker 4: Louvebay, Texas definitely doesn't.

1440
01:04:40,200 --> 01:04:41,800
Speaker 1: He could get right in with all that money.

1441
01:04:41,920 --> 01:04:44,680
Speaker 2: But I'll give you one that flipped safe to say,

1442
01:04:44,720 --> 01:04:48,120
Speaker 2: diego Pavia isn't going to Vanderbilt of high school right,

1443
01:04:48,720 --> 01:04:52,520
Speaker 2: So as an academic student, I'm not talking football. But

1444
01:04:52,800 --> 01:04:56,440
Speaker 2: what was Clark Lee's big thing was we got to

1445
01:04:56,440 --> 01:04:57,800
Speaker 2: open this up a little bit if we want to,

1446
01:04:57,880 --> 01:04:59,919
Speaker 2: And he got him to and now diego work.

1447
01:05:01,040 --> 01:05:02,640
Speaker 1: Vader Bill ain't gonna look at a transcript.

1448
01:05:02,720 --> 01:05:04,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, they just got a five star quarterback out of

1449
01:05:04,320 --> 01:05:04,720
Speaker 4: high school.

1450
01:05:04,760 --> 01:05:06,160
Speaker 1: Do you see the dude? What was a guy's name

1451
01:05:06,240 --> 01:05:08,640
Speaker 1: of Notre Dame? What did he say? The wide receiver?

1452
01:05:09,440 --> 01:05:11,439
Speaker 1: The difference between going to Notre Dame in Ohio State?

1453
01:05:11,480 --> 01:05:14,080
Speaker 4: Oh, yeah, Mile and Graham. Yeah, you said you actually

1454
01:05:14,120 --> 01:05:16,680
Speaker 4: have to go to classes in person. You can go

1455
01:05:16,680 --> 01:05:18,200
Speaker 4: to them online at Ohio State.

1456
01:05:18,320 --> 01:05:19,960
Speaker 1: I looked at the comments and a bunch of people

1457
01:05:19,960 --> 01:05:20,560
Speaker 1: at Ohio State.

1458
01:05:20,680 --> 01:05:22,640
Speaker 2: Was he You still got to go to class online

1459
01:05:22,760 --> 01:05:25,240
Speaker 2: if your classes are online, or in Ohio State playing football,

1460
01:05:25,280 --> 01:05:27,960
Speaker 2: you're never fucking logging onto anything. That's what he essentially

1461
01:05:28,000 --> 01:05:30,320
Speaker 2: just said. You have to go to class at Notre Dame.

1462
01:05:30,560 --> 01:05:32,520
Speaker 2: You do not have to do anything in Ohio State,

1463
01:05:32,560 --> 01:05:33,600
Speaker 2: which I got no problem with.

1464
01:05:34,120 --> 01:05:35,600
Speaker 1: But that's what he said. Now was awesome.

1465
01:05:35,600 --> 01:05:37,280
Speaker 4: That's what Carlo Jones said. He said, I ain't coming

1466
01:05:37,320 --> 01:05:40,000
Speaker 4: here to play school, But back then you were supposed to.

1467
01:05:40,360 --> 01:05:44,840
Speaker 2: Now no one even cares. Yeah, back then they pretended are.

1468
01:05:44,800 --> 01:05:46,680
Speaker 4: So many years now they're giving So it's like Carson

1469
01:05:46,720 --> 01:05:48,240
Speaker 4: Becksen is like six years Like yeah, I haven't been

1470
01:05:48,280 --> 01:05:49,480
Speaker 4: to school in like two or three weeks.

1471
01:05:49,520 --> 01:05:51,320
Speaker 2: And in fairness, like when I was in college, Matt

1472
01:05:51,360 --> 01:05:55,000
Speaker 2: Liner remember his last year he had graduated. He took

1473
01:05:55,040 --> 01:05:57,840
Speaker 2: one class and it was like golf. Is that all

1474
01:05:57,960 --> 01:05:59,920
Speaker 2: that's always happened a little bit if you like graduated?

1475
01:06:00,360 --> 01:06:03,040
Speaker 2: But now, like, what year is the Notre Dame wide?

1476
01:06:03,240 --> 01:06:05,480
Speaker 1: Was he how long? He's like a red shirt freshman? Yeah,

1477
01:06:05,480 --> 01:06:06,000
Speaker 1: so he's young.

1478
01:06:06,280 --> 01:06:09,120
Speaker 2: So usually as a freshman, if you read sir, you'd like,

1479
01:06:09,240 --> 01:06:12,480
Speaker 2: go bang out some basic classes. And do you think

1480
01:06:12,520 --> 01:06:14,400
Speaker 2: that guy went to one class O house state? No

1481
01:06:14,440 --> 01:06:17,160
Speaker 2: freaking chance, which I respect, and that is why I

1482
01:06:17,160 --> 01:06:19,840
Speaker 2: think Michigan people get mad at ohiouse ate I do

1483
01:06:19,880 --> 01:06:22,720
Speaker 2: you think Michigan has some more academic requirements that I

1484
01:06:22,880 --> 01:06:27,880
Speaker 2: was saying? And it's easier for Ohio State to dominate

1485
01:06:27,920 --> 01:06:29,919
Speaker 2: because they can't get anyone they want at any moment

1486
01:06:30,000 --> 01:06:31,200
Speaker 2: in school, and no one has to go to a

1487
01:06:31,200 --> 01:06:32,760
Speaker 2: class ever ever.

1488
01:06:33,280 --> 01:06:34,720
Speaker 1: Like you cannot play at Notre Dame.

1489
01:06:34,840 --> 01:06:37,160
Speaker 2: Look at Notre Dame though, in fairness, like most of

1490
01:06:37,160 --> 01:06:38,640
Speaker 2: their guys when you hear him talking like that guy's

1491
01:06:38,640 --> 01:06:41,480
Speaker 2: a high level guy. I remember when the volume first started,

1492
01:06:41,600 --> 01:06:43,439
Speaker 2: Kyle Hamilton that crew. Do you ever listen to that show?

1493
01:06:43,480 --> 01:06:44,240
Speaker 2: They're like four of them.

1494
01:06:44,320 --> 01:06:47,919
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's watching the Echoes or something.

1495
01:06:48,000 --> 01:06:49,880
Speaker 1: Yes, some other random guys on the team. But it

1496
01:06:49,920 --> 01:06:53,400
Speaker 1: was like some player college podcast. I would rather like

1497
01:06:53,720 --> 01:06:55,680
Speaker 1: look at the wall than listen to it. But it's

1498
01:06:55,720 --> 01:06:57,360
Speaker 1: like those guys are just high level of dudes.

1499
01:06:57,840 --> 01:06:59,520
Speaker 2: Stanford would be the Saint like back in the day,

1500
01:06:59,640 --> 01:07:02,440
Speaker 2: like when Caffrey was on the team with like the

1501
01:07:02,440 --> 01:07:05,640
Speaker 2: Shriman era, Like those guys are just high light. There's impressive,

1502
01:07:05,800 --> 01:07:09,360
Speaker 2: Like if football didn't exist, they would all be going

1503
01:07:09,400 --> 01:07:12,840
Speaker 2: to school and getting good grades and listen, I'm anti academia,

1504
01:07:12,960 --> 01:07:14,320
Speaker 2: like I fucking hate class.

1505
01:07:14,480 --> 01:07:16,240
Speaker 1: I think class it did serve me well.

1506
01:07:16,600 --> 01:07:19,760
Speaker 2: But the Stanford guy was always I remember even a

1507
01:07:19,760 --> 01:07:22,680
Speaker 2: scouting like these guys are smart, you know, and you

1508
01:07:22,720 --> 01:07:24,960
Speaker 2: go sometimes you go to the SEC like they're but

1509
01:07:24,960 --> 01:07:27,080
Speaker 2: they're smart at football, but they don't have to go

1510
01:07:27,160 --> 01:07:27,560
Speaker 2: to class.

1511
01:07:27,600 --> 01:07:30,680
Speaker 1: So it's like you go to you know, Ole miss

1512
01:07:30,720 --> 01:07:33,080
Speaker 1: like none of those dudes are going to class.

1513
01:07:33,120 --> 01:07:36,760
Speaker 4: When was the last time all academic teams for football

1514
01:07:36,960 --> 01:07:40,320
Speaker 4: were published presented? I felt like maybe it was maybe

1515
01:07:40,320 --> 01:07:41,560
Speaker 4: it was only in high school, or maybe It was

1516
01:07:41,560 --> 01:07:43,320
Speaker 4: like when I was in high school, I would see

1517
01:07:43,360 --> 01:07:45,040
Speaker 4: him for the Big ten and stuff. It feels like

1518
01:07:45,040 --> 01:07:47,800
Speaker 4: nowadays you don't even see that anywhere unless it's old

1519
01:07:47,840 --> 01:07:49,760
Speaker 4: school magazine website.

1520
01:07:49,960 --> 01:07:52,800
Speaker 1: Hey congrat Sharon Myias Smith. You made You're too young.

1521
01:07:52,840 --> 01:07:56,600
Speaker 2: But they used to have the Playboy All American College Playboy.

1522
01:07:56,680 --> 01:07:58,560
Speaker 2: Yeah that the college players would go to the model

1523
01:07:58,600 --> 01:08:04,520
Speaker 2: magazine Playboy, Yes, Newty magazine. My son Jack will never

1524
01:08:04,920 --> 01:08:08,720
Speaker 2: even understand when what a magazine was and understand how

1525
01:08:08,760 --> 01:08:10,560
Speaker 2: big of a deal it was to see just like

1526
01:08:10,640 --> 01:08:14,280
Speaker 2: a boob in a magazine like his life. I mean,

1527
01:08:14,320 --> 01:08:17,960
Speaker 2: the access he's gonna have, well, I gotta deny it

1528
01:08:18,000 --> 01:08:18,760
Speaker 2: when he gets old enough.

1529
01:08:19,240 --> 01:08:20,960
Speaker 1: You know, he can't see his first boob early.

1530
01:08:21,040 --> 01:08:23,400
Speaker 2: But any kid worth their salt figures out a way

1531
01:08:23,439 --> 01:08:26,320
Speaker 2: to get around I mean restrictions. He'll know my passwords,

1532
01:08:26,320 --> 01:08:29,800
Speaker 2: I mean he'll but it's like the world is. I

1533
01:08:29,800 --> 01:08:31,840
Speaker 2: remember when I worked for the Eagles, Duce Staley was

1534
01:08:31,880 --> 01:08:33,559
Speaker 2: telling me one time he went to a Playboy party

1535
01:08:33,560 --> 01:08:34,240
Speaker 2: when he was playing.

1536
01:08:34,920 --> 01:08:37,280
Speaker 1: I just remember describing, like god, that sounds pretty sweet.

1537
01:08:38,200 --> 01:08:40,160
Speaker 1: And he walked in there and like McNab's heyday, like

1538
01:08:40,200 --> 01:08:41,320
Speaker 1: two of them. I was like.

1539
01:08:41,520 --> 01:08:42,960
Speaker 4: Pre fat McNabb.

1540
01:08:44,120 --> 01:08:47,519
Speaker 1: This was like prime Pro Bowl. Yeah he's not.

1541
01:08:49,160 --> 01:08:51,760
Speaker 4: There's Todd Bowles. You gotta talk about Todd Bowles today.

1542
01:08:51,760 --> 01:08:55,160
Speaker 4: When he saw Todd Bowles, he's.

1543
01:08:55,000 --> 01:08:56,519
Speaker 1: Been big for a while, Todd.

1544
01:08:57,200 --> 01:09:00,559
Speaker 2: The thing is when you get I was telling you this,

1545
01:09:01,120 --> 01:09:03,599
Speaker 2: I ask you what position Todd Bowles played in the league.

1546
01:09:03,640 --> 01:09:05,040
Speaker 1: What'd you say? I said, de tackle?

1547
01:09:06,040 --> 01:09:10,040
Speaker 2: He played safety. Because back in the day, safeties used

1548
01:09:10,080 --> 01:09:12,920
Speaker 2: to be like six'. Three like we were talking To

1549
01:09:13,040 --> 01:09:16,040
Speaker 2: Jordan reed About Lewis riddick who played who know? Him

1550
01:09:16,080 --> 01:09:18,840
Speaker 2: and Todter Buddies lewis same. Way lewis like six'. To Two,

1551
01:09:18,960 --> 01:09:21,439
Speaker 2: john lynch there's like. Sixty three you meet safeties now

1552
01:09:21,439 --> 01:09:24,360
Speaker 2: they look like, little corners. Those guys todd in his

1553
01:09:24,400 --> 01:09:27,920
Speaker 2: prime was probably like two hundred thirty pounds and Would

1554
01:09:28,240 --> 01:09:30,439
Speaker 2: Remember jack. Hughes's face, after that you got the, high

1555
01:09:30,479 --> 01:09:32,360
Speaker 2: stick that's what your teeth would look like.

1556
01:09:32,280 --> 01:09:33,559
Speaker 1: Going over across. The middle back IN.

1557
01:09:33,600 --> 01:09:36,559
Speaker 2: The Nfl damn NOW the nfl like that's doesn't. EVEN

1558
01:09:36,560 --> 01:09:39,760
Speaker 2: exist i didn't think you can. Tackle anymore you can't

1559
01:09:39,760 --> 01:09:41,599
Speaker 2: put your weight on the. Quarterback, anymore no we can't

1560
01:09:41,600 --> 01:09:43,439
Speaker 2: put your weight. On players you gotta, go down you.

1561
01:09:43,479 --> 01:09:46,840
Speaker 2: CAN'T slam i remember Talking To john lynch when he

1562
01:09:46,840 --> 01:09:49,479
Speaker 2: first got, the job kind. OF bsing i was kind,

1563
01:09:49,520 --> 01:09:50,800
Speaker 2: of kidding but kind, Of not like do you think

1564
01:09:50,840 --> 01:09:51,839
Speaker 2: you could play IN the nfl?

1565
01:09:52,560 --> 01:09:54,360
Speaker 1: Right now he would have.

1566
01:09:54,360 --> 01:09:57,080
Speaker 2: To, be linebacker like he couldn't Like his if you

1567
01:09:57,160 --> 01:10:03,920
Speaker 2: go Watch Like peak bucks highlights With Like Sap, derek brooks.

1568
01:10:05,360 --> 01:10:07,200
Speaker 1: Their front was You know Sap.

1569
01:10:07,040 --> 01:10:09,960
Speaker 2: And brooks, were elite but if you got free over

1570
01:10:10,000 --> 01:10:12,840
Speaker 2: the middle forty seven was you were gonna you.

1571
01:10:12,840 --> 01:10:17,160
Speaker 1: Could die he would like you. Watch highlights remember when

1572
01:10:17,200 --> 01:10:18,680
Speaker 1: we went to See the Thing Of. Ronnie lott they

1573
01:10:18,680 --> 01:10:22,720
Speaker 1: would like leave their feet from like seven yards away like.

1574
01:10:22,760 --> 01:10:26,360
Speaker 1: A torpedo do they keep their? Eyes open do they cleanse?

1575
01:10:26,400 --> 01:10:28,880
Speaker 2: THEIR teeth i, don't know but they were trying to

1576
01:10:29,000 --> 01:10:32,280
Speaker 2: like shatter every bone inside. Your body you just don't

1577
01:10:32,280 --> 01:10:35,519
Speaker 2: even see that. Hit anymore, in fairness go guys's. Coached

1578
01:10:35,560 --> 01:10:38,799
Speaker 2: out no one does it like The Sport todd bowles

1579
01:10:38,800 --> 01:10:42,439
Speaker 2: played in, the eighties for Like The joe gibbs commanders.

1580
01:10:43,400 --> 01:10:44,640
Speaker 1: Can't even relate to on.

1581
01:10:44,760 --> 01:10:46,680
Speaker 4: The, field now does that mean in twenty years we're

1582
01:10:46,720 --> 01:10:49,160
Speaker 4: gonna see a Bunch Of romeo dobbs In the Guardian

1583
01:10:49,320 --> 01:10:51,160
Speaker 4: caps is that gonna become a thing where people are

1584
01:10:51,200 --> 01:10:52,240
Speaker 4: required to?

1585
01:10:52,280 --> 01:10:52,439
Speaker 3: Wear?

1586
01:10:52,479 --> 01:10:55,400
Speaker 2: THEM uh i think a lot more guys are gonna

1587
01:10:55,400 --> 01:10:57,880
Speaker 2: wear it because they're, Gonna WANT like i don't want

1588
01:10:57,880 --> 01:11:00,400
Speaker 2: to get, a cushion not. Get paid you don't get

1589
01:11:00,400 --> 01:11:03,880
Speaker 2: paid when you're on. THE sideline i, just, think like,

1590
01:11:03,880 --> 01:11:05,200
Speaker 2: all right it's gonna be more of a seven to.

1591
01:11:05,200 --> 01:11:13,240
Speaker 2: Seven game it's definitely become more. Quarterback, centric yeah.

1592
01:11:11,320 --> 01:11:11,479
Speaker 1: But.

1593
01:11:13,800 --> 01:11:17,679
Speaker 2: Yeah so other, Than that. I'm starving it's. FIVE o'clock

1594
01:11:17,720 --> 01:11:18,320
Speaker 2: i haven't eaten.

1595
01:11:18,840 --> 01:11:24,000
Speaker 1: Six o'clock what's actually four o'clock? Our time is that

1596
01:11:24,040 --> 01:11:28,680
Speaker 1: a twelve hour fast? For? YOU fifteen I ate i

1597
01:11:28,760 --> 01:11:30,720
Speaker 1: had some snacks last NIGHT when i. Got here, but

1598
01:11:30,800 --> 01:11:31,240
Speaker 1: yes it's been.

1599
01:11:31,280 --> 01:11:34,679
Speaker 4: A while i'm just. Telling y'all, right now we got

1600
01:11:34,680 --> 01:11:35,160
Speaker 4: a lot.

1601
01:11:35,000 --> 01:11:39,200
Speaker 1: Coming because this guy. Cooked today this man. Cooked today we.

1602
01:11:39,320 --> 01:11:42,280
Speaker 1: Got cool the plans will, fall through but you never know.

1603
01:11:42,840 --> 01:11:46,040
Speaker 2: The key and this is Another thing i'm, Bad at like,

1604
01:11:46,520 --> 01:11:48,000
Speaker 2: one thing networkers and this Is where.

1605
01:11:48,040 --> 01:11:51,240
Speaker 1: I'm at are great at. Follow up so like in, Two,

1606
01:11:51,320 --> 01:11:53,560
Speaker 1: days hey nice. SEEING you i.

1607
01:11:53,640 --> 01:11:56,840
Speaker 2: Appreciate that it's easy to, Do it Like If john

1608
01:11:56,880 --> 01:12:00,360
Speaker 2: harbaugh gave me, his number but LIKE his, pr guy, you, know,

1609
01:12:00,479 --> 01:12:01,519
Speaker 2: HEY man i appreciate.

1610
01:12:01,560 --> 01:12:03,000
Speaker 1: The time thanks.

1611
01:12:03,000 --> 01:12:05,120
Speaker 2: For everything like we almost had a disaster where we

1612
01:12:05,120 --> 01:12:09,360
Speaker 2: didn't have a table, and share which would have been,

1613
01:12:09,400 --> 01:12:12,920
Speaker 2: a problem but like we went out of our way

1614
01:12:12,920 --> 01:12:14,720
Speaker 2: to tell the guy AT, the nfl like he took care,

1615
01:12:14,720 --> 01:12:17,080
Speaker 2: of us like he made. It happen it, was Like

1616
01:12:17,960 --> 01:12:20,960
Speaker 2: thank God for matt McCarthy works IN the nfl.

1617
01:12:21,040 --> 01:12:21,840
Speaker 1: Right now he's. A man.

1618
01:12:21,880 --> 01:12:24,679
Speaker 4: Shout out matt McCarthy called me at eleven pm. Last

1619
01:12:24,760 --> 01:12:26,960
Speaker 4: night we got a. Damn table it's.

1620
01:12:27,000 --> 01:12:29,760
Speaker 2: Pretty, Sweet okay well that'll wrap it up for day

1621
01:12:29,760 --> 01:12:31,320
Speaker 2: one and let's go get.

1622
01:12:31,360 --> 01:12:31,759
Speaker 1: Some food

1623
01:12:35,040 --> 01:12:35,759
Speaker 3: The volume