1 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 1: Iheartradios Live coverage out twenty twenty five Steelers Training Camp 2 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:16,400 Speaker 1: is presented by FedEx where Now meets Next and also 3 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:20,640 Speaker 1: brought to you by bud Light, Independence Health System, by 4 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:26,240 Speaker 1: Pennsylvania One Call System, by Live Casino, Calciente Pizza and Drafthouse, 5 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 1: by Tom's Appliances, South Hills Auto, Laurel Highlands Visitors Bureau, Wemax, 6 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 1: Select Realty, the Pittsburgh Steelers Pro Shop, and by US Steel. 7 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 2: Welcome back to campus, Pittsburgh Steelers Training Camp twenty twenty 8 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:46,520 Speaker 2: five edition. It's another special edition of the Drive. Here 9 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 2: West Schuler and Matt Williamson with you for the next 10 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 2: three hours. It is Training Camp number three, Well practice 11 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 2: day number three. I should say yeah yeah for your 12 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 2: Pittsburgh Steelers. As Chris Boswell is out here early drilling 13 00:00:59,080 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 2: him as he always does. 14 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 3: Matt, you'll get a specialists have been out there for 15 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 3: a while. 16 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 2: They have Yeah, you'll get a kick out of this 17 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 2: Chris Boswell kick. See what you get right this This 18 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 2: morning during walkthrough, you know, there was some some rain 19 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:14,040 Speaker 2: and some things like that this morning. At one point 20 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 2: Chris Boswell came over here with his I believe it 21 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 2: was his son, and that's what that's what Max thought 22 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 2: as well too, and was kicking field goals with his 23 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 2: son and was making his son go and retrieve like 24 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 2: like elementary school. His son's down there running balls back 25 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:30,320 Speaker 2: and forth. 26 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:33,119 Speaker 4: A good n fifty yard john with a big, heavy 27 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:35,679 Speaker 4: football for a little kid, the balls are bigger anything. 28 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 2: It's also like, I can't wait to get to that 29 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 2: point where I can start having my kids, you know, 30 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:42,680 Speaker 2: take tasks off the list for me when they get 31 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 2: a few years older, you know. But you know, like 32 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 2: the classic you know, basketball player going out to the 33 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 2: park to work on their jump shot and they bring 34 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 2: a rebounder. Chris Boswell had his son out there with 35 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 2: him today, so that was a lot of fun. Matt, 36 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 2: this is a. 37 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 3: Big deal, real quick. Just kids. 38 00:01:57,160 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 4: I just noticed, you know that he's kicking these field 39 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 4: goals and a lot of them are going into the 40 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 4: you know, the crowd and whatnot. But the huge crowd 41 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 4: of kids that are just fighting for balls like it's 42 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 4: a you know, a foul ball that the right. 43 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 2: Like when you play five hundred in recesses that you 44 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:15,119 Speaker 2: know you throw up the ball. Yeah, Jack Putt, Yeah, 45 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 2: they're all down there try to catch the ball and 46 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:19,360 Speaker 2: throw back. Those are the cool things that you come 47 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 2: out the training camp for. 48 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 3: This place could be packed today, by the way. 49 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 2: And that's where I was going next. For a lot 50 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 2: of different reasons. Uh, you know, Matt. Throughout training camp, 51 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 2: there's like milestones. It feels like in the ramp up process. Absolutely, 52 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 2: you've got the first day, You've got the day that 53 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 2: pads go on, You've got Friday night lights, you've got 54 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 2: preseason game. You know, you know, there's there's that ramp 55 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 2: up process. I think kind of the first other than 56 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 2: report day obviously in the first practice, I think kind 57 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 2: of the first real milestone of camp is this first. 58 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:48,800 Speaker 3: Saturday for the weekend. 59 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 2: You know, for three different reasons. One, like you just mentioned, 60 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 2: it's the first weekend practice, first Saturday practice, and that 61 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 2: always draws a huge crowd. Summertime Saturday, people aren't working 62 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 2: all those different things. Second reason is today is the 63 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:04,239 Speaker 2: NFL's Welcome Back to Football day that they do across 64 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 2: all the teams in the National is like I think 65 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 2: the third straight, fourth straight year since post COVID they've 66 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 2: been doing that. They call the first Saturday of training 67 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 2: camp welcome back to Football That's why Mike Tomlin at 68 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 2: this practice always gets on the microphone and addresses the 69 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 2: crowd for a. 70 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 3: Minute if you remember that, yeah, right, yep. And then 71 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:22,919 Speaker 3: for that that's coming when they hit. 72 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:25,359 Speaker 2: The So that's coming today, I would I would imagine 73 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:27,959 Speaker 2: pretty soon here actually once they once they move over 74 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 2: from that far field. And then for the third and 75 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:33,800 Speaker 2: maybe biggest reason is today is also the day we 76 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 2: get the induction of the newest Steelers Hall of Honor 77 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 2: class twenty twenty five. Addition, and I tell you what 78 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 2: this and there's been. The first class was all the 79 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 2: Hall of Famers, you know, and so that was obviously 80 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 2: a crazy class. 81 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 4: And that's one of the qualifications if you go to 82 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 4: the Pro Football Hall. 83 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 3: Of Fame, you're in. 84 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 2: You're in. 85 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 3: Yeah right, yeah, I. 86 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 2: Think that was that was like the first blanket induction. 87 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 2: I think it was like the Pro Football Hall of Famers. 88 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 2: You know, last year Hampton, Jason gild and Dick Lebou, 89 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 2: Willie Parker a great class last year. This one met 90 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 2: pretty special. First time they've only inducted three, so they've 91 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 2: done four, the huge one to start and then it 92 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 2: had been four for a few years. Yeah, this year 93 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 2: the trio of Super Bowl champions of right in my 94 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:20,920 Speaker 2: millennial wheelhouse of growing up a Staler fan, of course, 95 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:24,359 Speaker 2: number seven Ben Roethlisberger in his first year eligible for introduction. 96 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:26,919 Speaker 2: Seven is in as is the guy who played in 97 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:28,160 Speaker 2: front of him as one of the best in the 98 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 2: National Football League for nine years in Marquise Pouncey. Awesome 99 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:34,840 Speaker 2: and then perhaps one of the greatest personalities, one of 100 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 2: the greatest characters in franchise history. Super Bowl Champion. They 101 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 2: shot him in Denver, Joey. 102 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:46,040 Speaker 3: Porter, father of current Steeler as well, absolutely. 103 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 2: Former Steelers coach as well too for four years. 104 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 3: Yep. It is a very cool thing. I mean, it's 105 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 3: sort of a new occurrence. 106 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 4: Like, you know, the whole of honor didn't exist when 107 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:55,360 Speaker 4: I was a kid, even when we were a kid, 108 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 4: Like this has been and we've talked about it a 109 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:01,120 Speaker 4: lot over the years, and I I mean, there's so 110 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 4: many to pick from, so many Like I'm not making 111 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 4: fun of the Bengals, but like their list isn't anything like. 112 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 3: That, or you know what I mean, Like, there's very 113 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 3: hall of honor. 114 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 2: Might be twenty people, right. 115 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 4: You would be putting pumping in four every year and 116 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 4: leaving great candidates off, you know. I mean, and most 117 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 4: teams are more that way. I mean, the history is 118 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 4: so strong, so that is super cool. Got to pull 119 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 4: back the curtain notes. I'm sure we have a lot 120 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 4: of listeners from yesterday. We missed Ben. 121 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 2: We missed Ben. We were talking about all the people 122 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 2: who who could be included, and we and I and 123 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 2: that was on me because I put the list together. 124 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 2: I forgot that it was the first year that Ben 125 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:38,360 Speaker 2: was eligible. Yeah, that's that's kind of like you're you're 126 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 2: as soon as you're done, you hang up your helmet, 127 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 2: you walk right into the Hall of Honor. 128 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:42,920 Speaker 3: Right right. 129 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 4: I mean, like you probably should have caught that one. 130 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:46,600 Speaker 4: You know, we totally missed it. 131 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:48,600 Speaker 2: We were we were laughing at ourselves. Max and I 132 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:50,719 Speaker 2: kind of did like a little lead into it. That was, 133 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 2: you know, I was laughing with him, like I forgot 134 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:56,720 Speaker 2: to say Ben yesterday with Matt. Yeah, pretty pretty big omission. 135 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 3: There, and I think he's gonna make it. 136 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 2: I mean, Matt, that's that's obvious. The big one this is, 137 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 2: you know, I believe the ninety third season of Pittsburgh 138 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:06,279 Speaker 2: Steelers football, if I am correct, ninety third to ninety 139 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 2: fourth season of Pittsburgh Steelers football. You've won six championships 140 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 2: in those ninety plus years with two quarterbacks. 141 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:14,160 Speaker 3: Right, and Ben and Ben were responsible, right. 142 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 2: Ben is one of them, you know, when you get 143 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 2: from outside of that seventies Steelers era, I mean, Troy, Paulamalu, 144 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 2: a lot of other guys that are right there in 145 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:26,159 Speaker 2: the conversation, but it's that era, is the Ben Roethlisberger era, 146 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:26,600 Speaker 2: That's right. 147 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 4: That's what we called a point right, right. I mean 148 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 4: there were two head coaches during that stint. I mean 149 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 4: it's not like one was better than the other, verse 150 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:35,840 Speaker 4: or whatever, and we could battle Ben versus Bradshaw. But 151 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:37,920 Speaker 4: I mean they're both going to be in the Hall 152 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:43,360 Speaker 4: of Fame. They're both multiple super Bowl champions now they're 153 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 4: also Hall of Honor guys together, of course. And he's 154 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 4: as easy as it comes. I mean, I don't think 155 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 4: we've spent a whole lot of time. We should have 156 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 4: spent some time yesterday. 157 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:52,360 Speaker 3: We can h that's right. 158 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 4: And frankly, I mean this is more Dale's gig than me. 159 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:57,600 Speaker 4: I didn't even know the qualifications. You know, how many 160 00:06:57,839 --> 00:07:01,720 Speaker 4: years yet three that's the Kevin Green Okay, yep, so 161 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 4: that adds up obviously, but great candidates. I mean, Porter's 162 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 4: a tremendous football player. Pouncey was truly one of the best, 163 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 4: maybe the best center of his. 164 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 2: Generation the day that he stepped into the league, right right. 165 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 4: So I know your buddies with Adam Crawley and back 166 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 4: in the day Pouncey's rookie year, Adam and I did 167 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 4: the Steeler post game show in the preseason, just preseasons. 168 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 3: You know. 169 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 4: And I did it with Mike Pursuda last year. I've 170 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 4: done it since then. I've done all the postal games. 171 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 2: You do some pregame stuff as well too. 172 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, And I remember pretty much as the 173 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 4: game ended, He's the first round pick and he's out 174 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 4: there at the starters right away, and Adam's like, what 175 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 4: do you think of this pouncy dude? You know, and 176 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 4: now we're seeing him in the game. We'd seen him 177 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 4: in practice. I'd obviously watched Florida tape and all that stuff, 178 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 4: and I went, well, he's their best lineman already, right, Like. 179 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 3: He's unbelievable. 180 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 4: And people might remember early Pouncy because, to his credit, 181 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 4: late in his career he had some lower balls, audy injuries, ankles, 182 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 4: and things where he was not the movement player he 183 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 4: was as a rookie. I mean him coming out of 184 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 4: his stance as an athlete and low and pulling and 185 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 4: getting in space, just in that preseason game. I'll never 186 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 4: forget it. I'm like, Adam, He's already better than any 187 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 4: lineman in that room. I mean, he is a special specimen. 188 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 4: And to his credit, even when he lost some of 189 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 4: the elite movement skills, he was still one of the 190 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 4: best centers in the league. And we often refer to 191 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:34,839 Speaker 4: Pro Football Focus on this show, and I go to 192 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:37,720 Speaker 4: that site every day, and I think it's a wonderful resource. 193 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 4: I urge everyone that's into football to check it out. 194 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 4: But by no means of their grades, gospel or anything 195 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:46,280 Speaker 4: like a tool to have. And I don't even know 196 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:49,439 Speaker 4: how they come up with their their grades. But day 197 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:52,559 Speaker 4: and I laugh to this day, they wrote up Pouncy 198 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:54,840 Speaker 4: and gave him a bad grade. They called him like 199 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 4: the twentieth best center in the league or something. You 200 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 4: mean towards the end of his career, yeah, I mean, 201 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 4: he was still easily a top five center. I mean, 202 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 4: it was ridiculous that anyone would even have him in 203 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:07,680 Speaker 4: that neighborhood. But I will never forget the write up 204 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:09,840 Speaker 4: because we put referenced it all the time, and there 205 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:14,320 Speaker 4: basically was no one asks more from their center, or 206 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:16,960 Speaker 4: no one has more one on one blocks in the 207 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 4: entire league than Pouncy. 208 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:21,439 Speaker 2: Like the dexter Lawrences of the world. He's going one 209 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:22,320 Speaker 2: on one with them. 210 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 3: Right, or the speed guys. 211 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 4: You know, like there's a wide variety of defensive linemen 212 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 4: that line up in the a gaps or over the 213 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:31,200 Speaker 4: center on third downs. Sometimes you might get justin Tuck 214 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:32,560 Speaker 4: in the NASCAR package, you know what I. 215 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:34,080 Speaker 2: Mean, Max Crosby exactly. 216 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, all these guys and and we just found it funny, 217 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:40,079 Speaker 4: like so he's asked to do way more than any 218 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 4: other center, but you're giving him a worse grade. You 219 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:44,360 Speaker 4: know those guys, most of those guys ahead of him 220 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 4: got help all the time, right, you know. I mean 221 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 4: it's just a great example of when you have a 222 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 4: special player, and like TJ wats this kind of guy too, 223 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:53,680 Speaker 4: you know, like, oh he's having a down year. 224 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 3: He didn't have a down year. 225 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:57,400 Speaker 2: His down year is a career year for. 226 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:01,199 Speaker 4: The other ten play I mean He's such a force 227 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 4: multiplier because schematically you do so much different with a 228 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 4: pouncy or the attention what demands that you're getting one 229 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:12,439 Speaker 4: on ones for high smith or your left guard, right 230 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 4: guard or able to double you know things like that. 231 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:20,440 Speaker 4: I mean, so a magnificent player. Think about those three positions. Though, 232 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 4: just dawned on me, like you know, the center legacy 233 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 4: here is in san We just talked about two easy 234 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 4: Hall of Fame quarterbacks, But how about the edge rushers. 235 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 4: I mean, I think Wat's the best of all of them, 236 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 4: And that's crazy to say. Some people would be like, oh, 237 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 4: come on, Green Lloyd. I mean, you go on and on. 238 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 2: Green is a is a unique case because he was 239 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 2: only here for three years drafted by him, right, But 240 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 2: but if you talk about in terms of their absolute peak, 241 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 2: you know, he's he's he might be at the forefront 242 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 2: tremendous player when he was here. But I'm with you 243 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:51,960 Speaker 2: on that, and it's it's one of the things that 244 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 2: like I enjoy finding nuance in in those you. 245 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:57,680 Speaker 4: Mentioned Guilden last year, Like how many edge pass rushers 246 00:10:57,679 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 4: are going to be in a ring of Hall of 247 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 4: On three years after what retire a ton yeah, absolutely. 248 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 2: And then even guys you know that that are were 249 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 2: like the the Larry Foots and the and the lamar Woodleys, 250 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:13,080 Speaker 2: you know, guys like that. But yeah, it is a 251 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 2: like that will be you know these. I think a 252 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 2: conversation that we'll be having at Sharky's Late Night ten 253 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:22,079 Speaker 2: years from now is like Debo, Kevin Green, t J 254 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 2: Watt and yeah, yeah, value do you value the the 255 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:28,520 Speaker 2: absolute peak of Debo and Kevin Green, who might have 256 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:31,320 Speaker 2: been a little bit more destructive than the absolute peak 257 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 2: of TJ. 258 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 3: But Harrison won Defensive Player of the Year, the best 259 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 3: defensive player on the planet. 260 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 5: Kevin Green is. 261 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 2: What I think fifth or sixth all time in sacks 262 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:41,920 Speaker 2: something like that, seventh all time in sacks. 263 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:43,680 Speaker 3: He's in the Hall of Fame. I don't know that 264 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:44,840 Speaker 3: Harrison will, but. 265 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:48,479 Speaker 2: My goodness, in terms of longevity, in terms of consistency, 266 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:51,440 Speaker 2: TJ's incredible, Yeah, absolutely incredible. 267 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:54,959 Speaker 4: So the historian of the Steelers just walked in over 268 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:58,440 Speaker 4: our shoulder and edge rushers. We were talking about Joey 269 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:01,439 Speaker 4: obviously Labs and I'm taking Watton. 270 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:07,560 Speaker 2: Harrison, Labriola. 271 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:13,319 Speaker 4: I mean, that's not disparaging Lloyd Green, Porter Guilden who's 272 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:15,719 Speaker 4: in the ring the Hall of Honor. But I think 273 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:21,080 Speaker 4: I'm going Watt and Harrison. Okay, yeah, I mean it's 274 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 4: and there's no wrong answer, but let me let me 275 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:27,680 Speaker 4: just tell you this though. There are some guys who 276 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 4: edge rushers and some guys though, who played the position 277 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 4: and did other things. Porter has other things, Lloyd did 278 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:43,679 Speaker 4: other things. Jason Gildlin a lot of respect for him. 279 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:48,079 Speaker 4: Couldn't cover. They didn't try to make him cover. I mean, 280 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 4: that just wasn't his thing. He was a defensive end 281 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 4: at Oklahoma State. So you know, that's that's to me 282 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 4: is the difference. 283 00:12:54,840 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 6: There's not that that's different levels of ability, but there 284 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 6: are different levels of skill sets and responsibility. Yeah, and 285 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 6: I'll tell you what if Lloyd doesn't tear his pateller 286 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 6: tendon in nineteen ninety six, he was on track, in 287 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 6: my opinion, to a Hall of Fame worthy. 288 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 3: Thought he was. 289 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:19,680 Speaker 6: He was first team All Pro I think three years 290 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 6: in a row. 291 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 3: And he was a force like Harrison. 292 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, well he was an attitude. 293 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:26,960 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, Yeah. 294 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 2: He's not here for his disposition. 295 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:35,560 Speaker 6: Because I remember talking to Mark Malone after he got 296 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:38,040 Speaker 6: traded to the Jets or ended up with the Jets 297 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 6: or whatever. And then he got into the media business 298 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 6: and I asked him about the the concept of intimidation. 299 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:52,840 Speaker 5: I said, really, I mean he said no. 300 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 6: He said, take a guy like Greg Lloyd, he said, 301 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 6: who plays like that and is willing to accept and 302 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 6: pay the fine. You got to keep that in the 303 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:05,439 Speaker 6: back of your mind. 304 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 4: Him and Harrison kind of were that same mold. Yes, 305 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 4: you know, they would have been seventy Steelers all day. 306 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 6: Long, right, and I mean the whole you know, James 307 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 6: Harrison's career I believe was unjustly characterized by the player 308 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 6: Safety initiative. James Harrison never had a un sportsmanlike conduct 309 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 6: or penalty in his life until the NFL changed the 310 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 6: rules in the middle of the twenty ten season and 311 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 6: things that he had been doing all to that point 312 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 6: now were now illegal. It's penalties that he's getting suspended. 313 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 6: I mean one year it was dirty. One the year 314 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 6: before it wasn't. 315 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 2: Right Defensive Player of the Year the year before, two 316 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 2: years before. 317 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm glad you brought responsibility though, because edge pass 318 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 4: rusher really doesn't do that that position credit because there's 319 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 4: a lot I mean, Harrison could set the edge in 320 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 4: the run. What was unbelievable against the run this past 321 00:14:58,000 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 4: You know. 322 00:14:58,120 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 2: I also think about like a play that t J 323 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 2: Watt made two years ago out in LA that game. 324 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 5: Against the Rams, the interception. 325 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 2: The interception where the Steelers offense had nothing the first half, 326 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 2: nothing first series, the second half, TJ gets an interception, 327 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 2: takes it all the way down inside the five yard line. 328 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 2: Steelers punch it in two plays later, offense comes to life. Yeah, 329 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 2: like TJ made that happen. 330 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 6: And Joey Porter's let's see ninety ninety two thousand and one, 331 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 6: Joey Porter's fourth season, fourth season in the NFL. Bill 332 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:25,800 Speaker 6: Kauer put him in the middle of the defense in 333 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 6: the dine and that was the six defensive backs things. 334 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 6: You know, you have four guys in the front, one 335 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 6: linebacker in the middle, and the defensive backs. 336 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. 337 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 6: And then Sunday night game against Oakland, he had two interceptions. 338 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 6: He returned one of them maybe four yards. I mean, 339 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 6: this guy was you know, he could cover, he was 340 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:46,560 Speaker 6: making plays on the ball, he could drop. Yeah, Lloyd 341 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 6: when he was his first play. You know, there wasn't 342 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:55,760 Speaker 6: a lot of off season practice or anything, but there 343 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 6: was mini camp and Lloyd was a six round pick 344 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 6: from Fort Valley State. First play ran like a flat 345 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 6: pass to the running back. Lloyd got out there from 346 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 6: alside linebacker intercepted it with his hand. I mean, you know, 347 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 6: reaching get away from the audio. 348 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, so yeah, he was. 349 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:21,880 Speaker 6: Yeah, he was like, there's there are adjectives I could use, 350 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 6: but I can't use them with this set. But yeah, 351 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 6: I mean you did not he did. You know, he 352 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 6: asked for no quarter and gave none. 353 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 4: And Wes you mentioned TJ's interception on that play. And 354 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 4: he'll still drop into coverage once or twice a game, 355 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:41,280 Speaker 4: you know. I mean he's adequate at it. I mean 356 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 4: he can do it. He'll find I did a little 357 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 4: homework on it. I mean he didn't play in the 358 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 4: Lebau defense. You know Lebo's defense. He never knew who 359 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 4: was coming zone blitz. So those edge guys there were 360 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 4: about one third of the actual drop back snaps, but 361 00:16:58,040 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 4: they didn't get a chance to rush the pass. Sure, 362 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:03,320 Speaker 4: if Porter would have had had ten sacks at the 363 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 4: end of the year, Mighty had fifteen. If he rushes 364 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 4: every time, there's a lot of opportunities where they're going 365 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 4: backwards and forward. 366 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:12,920 Speaker 6: Yeah, and in the term in terms of not knowing 367 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:16,480 Speaker 6: who's coming. That's Kurt Warner about that. That's Kurt Warner 368 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:19,360 Speaker 6: about that seriously when he and and to me that 369 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 6: was that was such a weak excuse when he said 370 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:26,240 Speaker 6: he wasn't supposed to be rushing or no, he wasn't 371 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 6: supposed to drop it. Yeah, he wasn't supposed to be dropping. Man, 372 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:32,399 Speaker 6: it's you want to be the MVP. You're supposed to 373 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:34,439 Speaker 6: read that, You're supposed to know where he is. 374 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 3: There's no rules. I have to write this guy, this guy, 375 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:36,960 Speaker 3: this guy. 376 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:38,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, right, so. 377 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:41,880 Speaker 6: Yeah, that that that that to me, I think they're 378 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:48,119 Speaker 6: just not necessarily tears of ability, but uh skill set differentiation. 379 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:49,920 Speaker 3: If you don't know this off the top of your head, 380 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:50,640 Speaker 3: I apologize. 381 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:53,840 Speaker 4: But how many are in the Hall of Honor now 382 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 4: that played that position? And I guess we couldn't really 383 00:17:56,920 --> 00:17:59,919 Speaker 4: include Dwight White and Nelson. It was a little bit different, 384 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 4: how you that was a four to three. It's a 385 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:04,880 Speaker 4: pure four three. It's a different position really, Yeah. 386 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:08,040 Speaker 6: I mean the Steelers didn't go to the UH three 387 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 6: four until mid eighties. 388 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:12,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, mid eighties. Yeah, And like. 389 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 3: Joel Steed is the nose and that era. 390 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:20,240 Speaker 6: Yeah right, well, you know, uh, Lloyd and Green they're 391 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:25,280 Speaker 6: both in Guilden. Golden was last year, right order, Now. 392 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:33,439 Speaker 4: Harrison's not right, No, Harrison is Okay, that's five at 393 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 4: one position. 394 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:35,119 Speaker 3: That's pretty well with. 395 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:39,600 Speaker 2: A another lock who's out here. Yeah, right now, Labs, 396 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:42,440 Speaker 2: I want to know from you because I mean, I 397 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:44,679 Speaker 2: don't know if I'm like a young pup anymore. I'm 398 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 2: in my mid thirties, but I've got a you look 399 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 2: younger I've got I've got a bit of a base 400 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:55,199 Speaker 2: of experience. But Joey Porter Senior, this is a franchise 401 00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:58,600 Speaker 2: littered with Hall of Famer Super Bowl champions. Matt and 402 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:00,240 Speaker 2: I were laughing when we started, like a you're the 403 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:02,360 Speaker 2: Cincinnati Bengals. You can't do this Hall of Honor thing 404 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 2: every year and have all these amount of guys in put. 405 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 3: For it every year. You drive it pretty quick in Cincinnati, 406 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:07,879 Speaker 3: you know. 407 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 6: Well, in that first class was a lot more than four, 408 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:12,439 Speaker 6: right right, everybody in the Hall of Fame once in 409 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:17,119 Speaker 6: the inaugural class of twenty thirteen, there. 410 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:19,720 Speaker 3: Living several owners and coaches and every organization we. 411 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 2: Do that contributors a lot of great personalities too, obviously 412 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 2: in the history of this franchise. But does does p 413 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:27,919 Speaker 2: Z rank towards the top or at the top of 414 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 2: the list. 415 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:30,600 Speaker 5: Oh, he's up there. I mean, certainly he's up there. 416 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:32,119 Speaker 5: You know. 417 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 6: And you mentioned James Harrison. Joey Porter gave him his start, Yeah, 418 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:46,120 Speaker 6: with William Green. You know, I was teasing Joey after 419 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 6: we got off the stage today. I said, you know, 420 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:50,320 Speaker 6: I didn't bring that one up when you're talking about Harrison. 421 00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:53,959 Speaker 6: I said, you know, but I mean, yeah, that was 422 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 6: that was Joey. I mean again, you know, the whole 423 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:02,639 Speaker 6: the whole Super Bowl forty thing, that Jeremy Stevens thing. 424 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:05,520 Speaker 6: I mean, he he detailed that pretty pretty well, I 425 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 6: think for the the Hall of Honor announcement thing today. 426 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:12,439 Speaker 6: He said, you know, Cower had told him when they 427 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 6: went down to the Super Bowl, you're not allowed to 428 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:17,120 Speaker 6: talk just because Yeah. 429 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:19,520 Speaker 2: I guess he was talking before the Colts game. 430 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:24,880 Speaker 6: He was talking, yeah, right, And so Joey said, he said, 431 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:27,920 Speaker 6: you know, Jeremy Stevens didn't say anything. He said, he 432 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:30,920 Speaker 6: said what you're supposed to say. Somebody asked him about, 433 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:34,280 Speaker 6: you know, Jerome coming back to Detroit or something for 434 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:36,320 Speaker 6: a Super Bowl and he said, yeah, I'm sorry he 435 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:38,400 Speaker 6: came all the way out here because you know, we're 436 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 6: gonna we're gonna spoil his party. You know, we're gonna 437 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 6: win the game or something, you know, And Joey just 438 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:54,159 Speaker 6: went off and again, I well, beyond that took the 439 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 6: pressure off everybody else. Nobody was asking Ben, hey, this 440 00:20:57,640 --> 00:21:00,879 Speaker 6: is your first super Bowl. Hey, this a right point. 441 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:03,480 Speaker 6: Nobody else had to answer any questions. 442 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:06,639 Speaker 7: It was all Joey, all the arrows all day long, 443 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:09,879 Speaker 7: right right right, And I you know, I think that 444 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 7: was a part of that week, keeping everything I won't 445 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:19,360 Speaker 7: say lose, but you know, nice and calm and as 446 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:21,880 Speaker 7: normal it can't as it can be for a team 447 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:23,200 Speaker 7: about to play in the Super Bowl. 448 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:25,880 Speaker 3: Very cool. Yeah, that is a pretty great group that's going. 449 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:29,200 Speaker 2: Oh it's a it's a fantastic group. I was joking 450 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 2: with Matt like it touches my millennial heart because these are, 451 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 2: you know, three that were front and center of my 452 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:37,240 Speaker 2: best Steelers memories growing up as a kid and a 453 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 2: teenager here in western Pennsylvania. You know, Joey Porter in 454 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:43,159 Speaker 2: that Super Bowl forty was my freshman year of high school. 455 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 2: You know, Ben and and those guys in Super Bowl 456 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:47,960 Speaker 2: forty three was my senior year of high school. 457 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:50,960 Speaker 3: So talking about your fanboy walking past Troy and the. 458 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 2: Max Troy and the Cafteria that was that was very 459 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:58,240 Speaker 2: that was very humbling to have it high nice. 460 00:21:58,040 --> 00:21:58,399 Speaker 3: To meet you. 461 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:00,960 Speaker 6: The same thing to me a couple of years ago. 462 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:05,360 Speaker 6: I told this story on the stage. Today, I'll tell 463 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:07,399 Speaker 6: it to you guys right now, because we're looking at 464 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:10,960 Speaker 6: where it happened. Ben's rookie year two thousand and four. 465 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:15,360 Speaker 6: He was still, you know, just a rookie night. So 466 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:19,639 Speaker 6: he's playing. There was a Saturday afternoon practice, Saturday practice 467 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:22,280 Speaker 6: in the afternoon, and I was standing down on the 468 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 6: right on the sideline with Touch. And I always like 469 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:28,440 Speaker 6: to watch practice with Touch because you know, he would 470 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 6: either give you little tips or point little things out 471 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:33,959 Speaker 6: of some insight, and I would take all of his 472 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 6: insight and intelligence and I would either re say it 473 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:43,080 Speaker 6: on the radio myself or write it and I'd sound 474 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 6: like I knew what I was talking about. 475 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 2: Same thing. 476 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:49,520 Speaker 6: So we're standing down there, it's eleven on eleven, and 477 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:55,000 Speaker 6: you know, quarterbacks cannot get tackled during drills, but what 478 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:57,560 Speaker 6: they would do is if the pressure got close, to 479 00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:01,159 Speaker 6: blow the whistle and stopped the play. So okay, So 480 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:05,359 Speaker 6: it's as I said, eleven on eleven bends back to pass, 481 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:07,639 Speaker 6: and he was getting a little pressure, and before he 482 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:10,440 Speaker 6: let him get too close, he ducks out and he's 483 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:12,080 Speaker 6: sprinting right. 484 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:13,200 Speaker 5: At us. 485 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 6: At that age, right, Yeah, He's sprinting right at us. 486 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 6: And then all of a sudden, he torqued his body 487 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:21,879 Speaker 6: a little bit and he threw a laser. He was 488 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:25,960 Speaker 6: outside the numbers. He threw a laser about twenty twenty 489 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:29,679 Speaker 6: five yards down the field to the opposite hash to 490 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:34,880 Speaker 6: a free agent rookie named Zamar Zamir cob ok He's 491 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:38,199 Speaker 6: stuck in Zamir coboard nineteen put it right between the 492 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:41,720 Speaker 6: one and the nine, okay, and I, you know, my 493 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 6: eyes got big, and I just looked at Touch and 494 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:47,160 Speaker 6: Tounch looked at me and said, Brett Farv. 495 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 5: And Touch, you know, ended his career. 496 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:52,360 Speaker 3: People walking the planet makes that the threat, Yeah. 497 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:54,359 Speaker 6: Right, Touch ended his career in Green Bay. So he 498 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:57,639 Speaker 6: got to see that up close in nineteen ninety three. 499 00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:03,000 Speaker 6: So yeah, that was I mean, that's still something I'll 500 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:06,480 Speaker 6: never forget. But just you know, it was wow, look 501 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:09,440 Speaker 6: at look at that. I don't know anything about playing quarterback, 502 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:10,480 Speaker 6: but I think that was good. 503 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:11,560 Speaker 3: Yeah. 504 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:14,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I could take eighteen years of that going forward here. 505 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 4: And it's a lot different. But even just mini camp 506 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 4: a couple of weeks ago. You know, like you're watching 507 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 4: Rudolph and you're watching Howard and they look fine, they're 508 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:23,679 Speaker 4: throwing the fall the ball fine, and then Roger shows up. 509 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:25,119 Speaker 3: It's like bo that looks a lot different. 510 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:30,760 Speaker 6: Yeah, yesterday, I mean just yeah, yeah, the two screen passes. 511 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:34,159 Speaker 6: He threw one sideline screen to Metcalf and one regular 512 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:39,680 Speaker 6: screen to Caleb Johnson. The arm angles that he used 513 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:43,359 Speaker 6: to get them the ball cleanly when you know a 514 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:45,600 Speaker 6: traditional thrower might have gotten it batted down, or you 515 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:47,919 Speaker 6: might have had the loft or too high, you know, 516 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:49,240 Speaker 6: and then the defense can get that. 517 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 4: You're right. 518 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:51,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just it's again, it's different. 519 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 5: As I said, you just mentioned it again. 520 00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:57,159 Speaker 6: I don't know a whole lot about anything, but when 521 00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 6: they're the quarterbacks, all four of them were doing the 522 00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:01,840 Speaker 6: same thing. Those drills where they all do the same 523 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:03,800 Speaker 6: thing at the same time, I could tell you it's 524 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:04,120 Speaker 6: the best. 525 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 3: Absolutely. 526 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 2: You don't have to in that moment. I tell that 527 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:08,440 Speaker 2: that one looks different. 528 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:10,720 Speaker 4: There's a lot of value, Like at the combine, just 529 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:13,320 Speaker 4: watching all ten guys do the exact same drill and 530 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:15,600 Speaker 4: like that guy's better than all right, yeah, just assembly 531 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:18,400 Speaker 4: line scouting, I call it, you know, labs. 532 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:20,399 Speaker 2: Last one, I've got for you to kind of put 533 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 2: a bow on this, and thanks for joining us here 534 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 2: for this first segment. 535 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:25,880 Speaker 3: It is nice here. 536 00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 2: You're welcome to hang all you want. Just for people 537 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:31,400 Speaker 2: who are curious, like, when does the twenty twenty six 538 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:33,400 Speaker 2: Hall of Honor process start for you all? Now? Twenty 539 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:35,160 Speaker 2: twenty five classes inaugurated today. 540 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:36,480 Speaker 3: May okay, next May? Okay? 541 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:40,880 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean there will be uh, you know, there's 542 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:45,520 Speaker 6: a fan component of it. H Fans. Nominations are solicited 543 00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 6: at some point. I don't know when it is or 544 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:51,400 Speaker 6: you know, the organization handles that. And when we have 545 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:54,160 Speaker 6: the when the committee as its first meeting, it's usually 546 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 6: in May sometime. You know, we're giving the the numbers 547 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:03,119 Speaker 6: from the fan pull and you know that's that's considered 548 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:07,600 Speaker 6: and everybody makes their nominations. You know, you nominate four 549 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 6: or five people and uh, then you're. 550 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:13,600 Speaker 3: Gonna start lobbying for Craig wolf leet. 551 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 5: Then you get. 552 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:17,320 Speaker 2: Another I think plenty of people will. 553 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:22,000 Speaker 6: Be another three weeks or so, and then we come 554 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:25,439 Speaker 6: back and vote, and that's pretty much it. 555 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:26,800 Speaker 3: That's cool, very cool. 556 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:29,640 Speaker 6: How many voters? Six or six people on the committee? 557 00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:33,320 Speaker 6: Art Runey the Second and let me calm him on 558 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:34,760 Speaker 6: my finger so I don't leave anybody out. 559 00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 5: Art Runey the. 560 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 6: Second, Andrew Stocky, Mike Pursuda, Tony Quatrin, longtime marketing director, 561 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:44,720 Speaker 6: Joe Gordon, Uh, the best PR guy in the history 562 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:48,440 Speaker 6: of Pittsburgh sports, and me And that's awesome. 563 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:50,119 Speaker 3: Wow, that's cool, labs. 564 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:51,960 Speaker 2: Thanks for taking the time to join us here. We 565 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:54,159 Speaker 2: have got to get to a break. But more on 566 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:57,680 Speaker 2: Hall of Honor, more on practice. Welcome back to football Saturday. 567 00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:00,280 Speaker 2: Here Mike, Tom and will take the microphone at some 568 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:03,040 Speaker 2: point on this first weekend practice, big crowd, great weather, 569 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:05,200 Speaker 2: Matt and I will be with you here to describe 570 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 2: it all until five o'clock. It's all part of our 571 00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:09,880 Speaker 2: ongoing training camp coverage. Special edition of The Drive here 572 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:13,000 Speaker 2: on Steelers Nation Radio on the Steelers Audio Network. 573 00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:22,159 Speaker 1: Iheartradios. 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As 582 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:04,000 Speaker 2: we are just getting things underway here for this practice, 583 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 2: first Saturday, first weekend practice for your Pittsburgh Steelers, big 584 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:10,240 Speaker 2: crowd out here with the weekend, the weather and all 585 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:12,960 Speaker 2: of the different moving and shaking on campus today. But 586 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 2: right now in front of us, Matt, you know, we 587 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:17,680 Speaker 2: talked a little bit, I think on the first day 588 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:21,240 Speaker 2: about Cam Johnson and just his recovery and you know, 589 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:24,119 Speaker 2: ten months ish about out from that injury and the 590 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 2: opener down in Atlanta. And I tell you what, he 591 00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:28,119 Speaker 2: does not look like a guy who's coming off of 592 00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:30,520 Speaker 2: a major injury. He is just out there booming the 593 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 2: ball in front of us. 594 00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:31,959 Speaker 5: He really is. 595 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:35,120 Speaker 4: And we started this conversation off the air, going man 596 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:38,440 Speaker 4: weightman looks really good. Yeah, and he does. And you 597 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:40,400 Speaker 4: love the lefty punter thing too. I don't know if 598 00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:43,000 Speaker 4: we've ever had this conversation. It's like the Belichick thing. 599 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:45,200 Speaker 4: Just because the ball spinds different, it's a little harder 600 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:47,840 Speaker 4: on the returners. So he is that going for him. 601 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:53,040 Speaker 4: But Johnson's just better and he's really really impressive in person. 602 00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:57,760 Speaker 4: We touched on this yesterday. Harvin was impressive here. You know, 603 00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 4: it would boom off. His foot had some stinkers. But 604 00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:03,760 Speaker 4: late in the year when the weather hit and he 605 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:05,240 Speaker 4: only had a fastball. 606 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:06,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what I mean. 607 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:08,080 Speaker 2: He could throw one hundred and three miles an hour 608 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:09,360 Speaker 2: right or nothing. 609 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:11,640 Speaker 4: And sometimes he hit the mask ont you know, but 610 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:14,640 Speaker 4: here is like, whoa, that guy is impressive and he 611 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 4: has a big, thick lower body and all that one 612 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:19,800 Speaker 4: punt aside, and I'm gonna give Johnson the benefit of 613 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:21,400 Speaker 4: the doubt on this one. Maybe he was trying something 614 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:24,400 Speaker 4: goofy because it went like fifteen yards on the next field. 615 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:25,520 Speaker 4: I don't know if he was trying to throw a 616 00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:27,440 Speaker 4: screwball and doesn't know how to do that or whatever. 617 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:30,720 Speaker 4: But he's been really impressive. And I'm not sitting here 618 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:34,520 Speaker 4: with the Stopwatch doing hangtime, but it's legit hangtime. And 619 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:38,440 Speaker 4: they're consistently falling right around the five. And we talked 620 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:41,040 Speaker 4: to us yesterday. I mean, like a golfer, he has 621 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:42,480 Speaker 4: a lot of clubs in his bag. 622 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:43,680 Speaker 3: It's like, yeah. 623 00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:45,080 Speaker 2: You might be able to drive, but can you chip? 624 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:45,400 Speaker 5: Yeah? 625 00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:46,960 Speaker 2: Right, you know you might be able to putt, but 626 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:48,640 Speaker 2: can you hit it out of the sand or the rough. 627 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 4: I'm not a punning expert. I'll never watch Special Teams tape. 628 00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:55,400 Speaker 4: I'll never pretend to know hardly anything more than most 629 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:56,920 Speaker 4: people listening about Special teams. 630 00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:58,800 Speaker 3: But punting's come a long. 631 00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:02,680 Speaker 4: Way, you know, like there's a a heavy Australian influence now, 632 00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:05,479 Speaker 4: you know where they'll drop it differently, and rugby punting 633 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:08,600 Speaker 4: styles and knuckleballs and they'll punt the middle of the 634 00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 4: ball or the you know, there's all these different just 635 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:15,000 Speaker 4: like a golfer, and Johnston has it. I mean he 636 00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:18,800 Speaker 4: can spiral it and spin it with a lot of velocity, 637 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:20,800 Speaker 4: or he can deaden it, or he can you know, 638 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 4: knuckle it or you know, all these different things. 639 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:24,520 Speaker 3: It's fun to watch. 640 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:27,080 Speaker 4: I mean again, if you're here, don't just ignore the 641 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:29,640 Speaker 4: punting stuff because there's something to gain by it. 642 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:33,000 Speaker 2: No, there absolutely is. And if you're out here, listen. 643 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:35,280 Speaker 2: I think there's a lot of casual Steelers fans who 644 00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:37,360 Speaker 2: come out here because it's a fun day, it's nice weather, 645 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:39,240 Speaker 2: it's a summertime, it's a chance to see the team. 646 00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:40,720 Speaker 2: But I think most of the people that make the 647 00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:42,760 Speaker 2: drive and sit out here for hours in this weather, 648 00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:44,600 Speaker 2: like you do want to see this kind of stuff 649 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:46,360 Speaker 2: because when else are you going to get to see 650 00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:49,240 Speaker 2: the punters ever out here working on their craft. 651 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:51,560 Speaker 3: Absolutely, you know, absolutely, it's very impressive. 652 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:52,320 Speaker 5: It is. 653 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:53,239 Speaker 2: It really is. 654 00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:55,000 Speaker 3: And yeah, pet Peeve. 655 00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:56,760 Speaker 4: I'm not pet Peeve because actually I'm gonna do to 656 00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:59,680 Speaker 4: the opposite. There's several young men out here fielding the 657 00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:03,080 Speaker 4: punt that are twelve, I'm guessing something like that. 658 00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:04,640 Speaker 2: They're young middle schoolish shades. 659 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:07,400 Speaker 4: Middle schoolish age, and it always makes me crazy as 660 00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:09,720 Speaker 4: a parent. I'm like, man, they should wear a helmet. 661 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:11,200 Speaker 4: I mean, like, you know how hard it is to 662 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:13,080 Speaker 4: field a punt. The hard death thing comes down. 663 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:15,320 Speaker 2: It feels like you drop it a bowling ball from 664 00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:16,080 Speaker 2: you know, the top of. 665 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:16,800 Speaker 3: A roof, right. 666 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:19,680 Speaker 4: I mean, I've had this conversation so many times with 667 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:22,400 Speaker 4: many co hosts in different areas, like, oh, I could 668 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:25,320 Speaker 4: catch a punt, No way, you'd break your teeth, your 669 00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:28,720 Speaker 4: nose would be bloody. Let alone it's raining or dark 670 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:31,200 Speaker 4: out or the lights. But these young men are good. 671 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:33,760 Speaker 4: I'm not worried about him. I'm usually I'm. 672 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:35,200 Speaker 3: Scared to death that they're going to get their face 673 00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:37,240 Speaker 3: smashed in by These guys are good. 674 00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:40,600 Speaker 2: They are, there's no problem. They've got some practice that 675 00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:41,160 Speaker 2: is impressive. 676 00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:41,640 Speaker 3: But you're right. 677 00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:44,160 Speaker 2: I think the average person thinks that they could do 678 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:46,800 Speaker 2: pretty decently at it. No, if I could go down 679 00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:49,560 Speaker 2: there and I could catch one out of ten Cam 680 00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:50,520 Speaker 2: Johnson punts. 681 00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:52,280 Speaker 3: I'll buy all your drinks. And I think that's one. 682 00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:55,360 Speaker 4: Let alone have it, even if he kicks it right 683 00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:58,360 Speaker 4: to you. I'm not even saying like a center fielder 684 00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:00,880 Speaker 4: right right, And I'm not even talking about eleven angry 685 00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:03,080 Speaker 4: people screaming at you while you're keeping your eyes and 686 00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:05,680 Speaker 4: the and the sun's up in the air and today's 687 00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:06,320 Speaker 4: a beautiful day. 688 00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:08,120 Speaker 3: I still don't think you catch one out of ten, 689 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:08,840 Speaker 3: I don't either. 690 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:10,680 Speaker 2: That's what I was saying, Like, I would be excited 691 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:12,320 Speaker 2: if I could catch one out of tight you know what. 692 00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:13,240 Speaker 3: I mean, civilians. 693 00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:14,920 Speaker 4: I mean, I'm sure so people out there that played 694 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:16,640 Speaker 4: in high school, like I could catch of course you could. 695 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:17,320 Speaker 3: I mean I get that. 696 00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:19,720 Speaker 2: Maybe you're still college age and you're in really good shape. 697 00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:21,880 Speaker 3: Right right, or you did it when you were a 698 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:23,720 Speaker 3: freshman in high school, so you at least have. 699 00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:25,560 Speaker 2: Some experience college football or something. 700 00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:27,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, but if I just grab Joe blow out of 701 00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:30,560 Speaker 4: the stands catching one out of ten, let alone in 702 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:32,960 Speaker 4: the stadium on Monday night football with the rain falling 703 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:36,680 Speaker 4: in your eyes and seventy coming down to destroy. 704 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:37,320 Speaker 3: Right. 705 00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:43,000 Speaker 4: So a lot of coaches will even be like, I 706 00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:45,680 Speaker 4: don't really care what we get in punt return the yards, 707 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:47,000 Speaker 4: just don't mess it up. 708 00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:48,880 Speaker 3: And especially situationally. 709 00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:51,560 Speaker 4: We got a big lead here, you know, and once 710 00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:53,440 Speaker 4: in a while you put Antonio Brown out there when 711 00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:55,920 Speaker 4: you needed one back there when. 712 00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:57,920 Speaker 2: You needed one. But yeah, I'm with you. It is 713 00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:01,680 Speaker 2: a more of a minimize minimalizing miss as if you're. 714 00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:04,800 Speaker 3: Going to muff one out of twenty, you can't do 715 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:05,320 Speaker 3: this job. 716 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:09,360 Speaker 2: No, absolutely not. Absolutely not. Still now on the opposite 717 00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:11,040 Speaker 2: side of the field here, Now see that that's interesting. 718 00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:13,320 Speaker 3: That's like a knuckleball, right, that's an end over ender. 719 00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:17,600 Speaker 2: It's not spiral it, it's end Yeah, that's maybe. 720 00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:21,120 Speaker 4: Sometimes every which way a ball can spin. That's why 721 00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:23,080 Speaker 4: I gave Johnston the benefit of the dow for that 722 00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:25,479 Speaker 4: awful shank. I wonder if he was just trying. I'm 723 00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:27,600 Speaker 4: gonna try to kick this thing barely, you know, you know. 724 00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:30,360 Speaker 2: And again, this is the type of place to do it, right, right. 725 00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:32,040 Speaker 4: Don't do it against the Bengals in Week ten, you know, 726 00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:33,840 Speaker 4: but right, but if you can add one more club 727 00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:34,600 Speaker 4: to your bag, why not. 728 00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:36,600 Speaker 2: And it is like that. I think the golf analogy 729 00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:39,800 Speaker 2: really works like a pitcher in baseball, you know what, Yeah, yeah, 730 00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:41,600 Speaker 2: like the guys like the Paul Skins types, you know 731 00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:43,160 Speaker 2: what I mean that can throw one hundred and two 732 00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:45,240 Speaker 2: mile an hour fastball and then hit you with a 733 00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:47,840 Speaker 2: sixty eight mile an hour curveball, you know what I mean, 734 00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:50,440 Speaker 2: out of your shoe. Good luck, good luck trying to 735 00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:52,480 Speaker 2: hit that. There's that that rookie picture. 736 00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:56,320 Speaker 4: Just the way the ball they don't always nail at 737 00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:59,520 Speaker 4: one hundred percent, but just the way the ball rotates 738 00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:02,160 Speaker 4: in the air is all by design, you know. 739 00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:05,360 Speaker 2: It's the same difference of a fastball, of a curve 740 00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:08,480 Speaker 2: all of a splitter of a thousand and Again, I 741 00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:11,640 Speaker 2: don't think you and I were not I'm not gonna. 742 00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:13,560 Speaker 2: I can't be the baseball announcer that can sit there 743 00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:17,040 Speaker 2: and go, ah, curveball just outside just by looking at it, 744 00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:18,560 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. But you can see when 745 00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:19,040 Speaker 2: it's different. 746 00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:20,719 Speaker 3: That one's for distance, like that one he just killed. 747 00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:22,759 Speaker 2: He just killed that one out of the back of 748 00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:23,359 Speaker 2: the end zone. 749 00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:26,160 Speaker 4: There's that one's no touch. That one's all gas and 750 00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:28,440 Speaker 4: he's just killing it. And he crushed it like seventy 751 00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:29,520 Speaker 4: yards or something like that. 752 00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:30,440 Speaker 2: Impressive. 753 00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:33,480 Speaker 4: I have summer for hangtime, summer for placements. Some are 754 00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:37,080 Speaker 4: for difficulty in catching, you know what I mean, depending 755 00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:38,280 Speaker 4: what the situation needs. 756 00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:39,080 Speaker 3: And he's got them all. 757 00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:41,080 Speaker 2: That's a hangtime one, right, that's a hangtime one. 758 00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:45,400 Speaker 3: That just kept climbing and climbing and climbing right, caught it. Body. 759 00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:46,239 Speaker 3: These kids are pretty good. 760 00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:48,400 Speaker 2: I wonder if those two kids down there are sons 761 00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:50,480 Speaker 2: of a former Steeler who are maybe. 762 00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:51,200 Speaker 3: I bet they play foot. 763 00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:54,440 Speaker 2: I bet they play. I always worry about that too. 764 00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:56,359 Speaker 2: It like the home run derby during the All Star Games. 765 00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:58,560 Speaker 2: They've got forty kids in the outfield, like. 766 00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:01,280 Speaker 4: They trip over each other, right, all right, that baseball 767 00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:05,680 Speaker 4: Aaron Judge smash Right, Yeah, come on, man, maybe I'm 768 00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:07,360 Speaker 4: just not a good athlete, which I'm not, and I 769 00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:08,880 Speaker 4: would get hurt, but maybe they wouldn't. 770 00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:11,680 Speaker 2: They're doing a good job. They're doing a good job 771 00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:13,439 Speaker 2: down there in the end zone. You gotta you gotta 772 00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:14,880 Speaker 2: love it. We got another break a. 773 00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:16,799 Speaker 3: Small portion of training camp. But it's a fun one. 774 00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:20,520 Speaker 2: Hey, It's all I do too, because again, like how 775 00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:21,960 Speaker 2: often do we don't? We don't ever do this? 776 00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:24,279 Speaker 4: No, you know, like I'm hoping the team comes back 777 00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:25,640 Speaker 4: to one of these fields one of these days. 778 00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:28,120 Speaker 2: I'm assuming they will because they've got everybody on the 779 00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:30,400 Speaker 2: sidelines down here. And again, like I know, Mike Tomlin's 780 00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:32,800 Speaker 2: going to address the crowd at some point. Joey Porter 781 00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:37,399 Speaker 2: pr is on campus today, so I'm imagining that they'll 782 00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:40,080 Speaker 2: probably do a like congratulations to haul of honor and 783 00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:43,920 Speaker 2: duck the you know, Joey Porter and Smith. Yeah, and 784 00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:45,799 Speaker 2: they did it with Heath Miller a couple of years ago, 785 00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:48,640 Speaker 2: which was really cool because Mike Tomlin introduced him, and 786 00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:53,520 Speaker 2: you know, ten thousand people here going. So so we'll 787 00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:55,440 Speaker 2: we'll keep you, we'll keep you posted with everything. 788 00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:57,880 Speaker 3: Ben's here, but the other two are correct. 789 00:35:58,000 --> 00:35:59,759 Speaker 2: I don't know, if I know, I'm not sure what 790 00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:04,520 Speaker 2: Ben is not here he is, yes, not sure about 791 00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:06,840 Speaker 2: fifty three, but I haven't seen him yet to this point. 792 00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:10,000 Speaker 3: So but we will, Uh, they will be at some point, yes. 793 00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:11,960 Speaker 2: Absolutely, And then they'll have the game where where they 794 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:14,520 Speaker 2: all get honored obviously as well to the Hall of 795 00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:16,759 Speaker 2: Honor game, which I think maybe is in December if 796 00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:19,479 Speaker 2: I'm remembering correctly. And then what's also gonna be pretty 797 00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:21,440 Speaker 2: cool Matt. Before we go to break here, Max was 798 00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:23,919 Speaker 2: reminding me today it's the twentieth anniversary of that Super 799 00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:27,440 Speaker 2: Bowl forty team, so they are having a reunion celebration 800 00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:29,640 Speaker 2: for one of the games. So that'll be I mean, 801 00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:33,280 Speaker 2: that'll be Max and Willie and Casey Hampton thereon Smith 802 00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:37,239 Speaker 2: and Paulamalu and Paz and Ben and Hines Ward and 803 00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:40,880 Speaker 2: Bussy and all these guys Alan Fanica. I mean, that'll 804 00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:43,040 Speaker 2: be that'll be a fun game when those guys. Max 805 00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:46,319 Speaker 2: was like, I already told because he does the college 806 00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:48,360 Speaker 2: football stuff for ESPN on Saturdays. He was like, I 807 00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:51,239 Speaker 2: already told my bosses whenever that Steelers game is, I'm 808 00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:53,600 Speaker 2: not working a college game that Saturday, because. 809 00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:57,640 Speaker 3: We'll have a big we'll have a big get together somewhere. 810 00:36:57,520 --> 00:36:59,640 Speaker 2: On Saturday night that I'm sure that'd be one of 811 00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:01,120 Speaker 2: those things you'd love to be a fly on the 812 00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:02,440 Speaker 2: wall for that, without a doubt. 813 00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:04,080 Speaker 3: Does look like they're heading this way. 814 00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:05,759 Speaker 2: By the way, they're heading this way, I think here 815 00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:07,839 Speaker 2: pretty soon. So we'll take it time, take a good time 816 00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:09,440 Speaker 2: to take a break. We'll keep you posted with everything 817 00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:11,560 Speaker 2: that's going on in front of us as practice rolls along. 818 00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:14,319 Speaker 2: West Schuler Matt Williamson's special edition of the Drive Here 819 00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:17,880 Speaker 2: Training Camp Edition on Steelers Nation Radio on the Steelers Audio. 820 00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:26,400 Speaker 1: Network, Iheartradios. Live coverage o'b not twenty twenty five Steelers 821 00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:30,840 Speaker 1: Training Camp is presented by FATX where Now meets Next 822 00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:35,120 Speaker 1: and also brought to you by bud Light, Independence Health 823 00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:40,640 Speaker 1: System by Pennsylvania One Call System by Live Casino, Calciente Pizza, 824 00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:44,880 Speaker 1: and Draft House by Don's Appliances. 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So and this is actually a good 833 00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:12,279 Speaker 2: follow up from yesterday too, because remember we were kind 834 00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:14,000 Speaker 2: of confused because we were like, it looked. 835 00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:14,759 Speaker 3: Like eight shots. 836 00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:18,000 Speaker 2: They called a mullet. They called that bad snap, just 837 00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:20,600 Speaker 2: a mullegan, you know what I mean. They didn't count it. 838 00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:23,320 Speaker 2: I think they're doing the same thing. Here, Zach Fraser 839 00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:27,080 Speaker 2: comes out for a play. C J McCollum in Aaron 840 00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:29,440 Speaker 2: Rodgers over the middle of DK metcalf for a touchdown. 841 00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:31,640 Speaker 2: Then that was nice, Yeah, that was zen. Zach Fraser 842 00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:34,600 Speaker 2: came back in for for well what was the second 843 00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:38,960 Speaker 2: counted rep? Third one overall, and Aaron Rodgers found Darnell 844 00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:42,680 Speaker 2: Washington in the back of the end zone as a 845 00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:45,920 Speaker 2: nice pitch and catch there from honor But I don't know, 846 00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:47,239 Speaker 2: it looked close to the line. 847 00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:48,919 Speaker 3: It was hard to see. 848 00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:52,000 Speaker 2: Shocker, but defensive saying he was out offensive saying. 849 00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:55,279 Speaker 4: He was in I don't know what they're gonna call 850 00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:56,600 Speaker 4: that one. 851 00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:58,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I have it, I haven't I haven't seen I 852 00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:02,200 Speaker 2: haven't seen anything yet. But yeah, So the offense started 853 00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:05,399 Speaker 2: with two touchdowns, a little bit of a pushback from 854 00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:09,279 Speaker 2: the defense here, and now it looks like we are 855 00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:12,840 Speaker 2: going to have Will Howard under center here for the Steelers. 856 00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:16,640 Speaker 4: A couple of small observations, again, super small sample size, 857 00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:19,160 Speaker 4: and I don't think I'm like breaking secrets here because 858 00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:21,719 Speaker 4: you're allowed to talk about it. But seem to be 859 00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:26,040 Speaker 4: just the practices I've seen so far featuring Darnell Washington 860 00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:28,160 Speaker 4: a little bit more in these situations, which I love, 861 00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:33,200 Speaker 4: and not a lot of condensed formations, you know, spreading 862 00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:36,480 Speaker 4: the field horizontally a little bit more, you know, some 863 00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:39,239 Speaker 4: three receiver stuff. Maybe it's just what they're working on. 864 00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:41,040 Speaker 4: That doesn't mean they're gonna do these things in the 865 00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:44,080 Speaker 4: regular season, but they're not coming out with like condensed 866 00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:46,360 Speaker 4: you know, a bunch of tight ends out there, you know, 867 00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:48,120 Speaker 4: tight formations. 868 00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:51,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, And it looks like seven shots. 869 00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:54,120 Speaker 3: Is uh letting Rodgers kind of pick and choose, Yeah. 870 00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:56,319 Speaker 2: Letting him maybe get a couple more reps in here. 871 00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:58,680 Speaker 2: Looks like they might take a see the first team 872 00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:01,600 Speaker 2: offensive line going back in. It looks like Aaron Rodgers 873 00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:06,920 Speaker 2: running up to the line of Scribbatu here, So it 874 00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:08,840 Speaker 2: looks like we might have the offense going once again. 875 00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:14,400 Speaker 4: That is the ones across the board. It looks like, yeah, 876 00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:18,440 Speaker 4: Austin's out there. I think they got three receivers on 877 00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:18,840 Speaker 4: the field. 878 00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:19,560 Speaker 3: I think they do. 879 00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:21,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, it looks like they might be They trying to 880 00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:24,560 Speaker 2: huddle up again here to to figure this out. Or 881 00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:29,239 Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers has the boys. Yeah, Pat Myers in there 882 00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:32,200 Speaker 2: barking some signals around. It looks like we might finally 883 00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:34,399 Speaker 2: get a rep here. 884 00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:38,600 Speaker 4: Metcalfaloone on the left side. Who's the corner he's up against? 885 00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:39,200 Speaker 4: Is that Porter? 886 00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:43,040 Speaker 2: I believe so Rogers in the shotgun. 887 00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:47,560 Speaker 3: It's an interesting one on one. He's just staring him down, looking. 888 00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:50,200 Speaker 2: Just kind of Yeah. That one batted down might have 889 00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:53,040 Speaker 2: been a sack there. Good pressure from the defense. 890 00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:57,440 Speaker 4: Pressure from Harmon, I think a batted ball from herbig gotcha, yeah, 891 00:40:57,440 --> 00:40:59,040 Speaker 4: got you in a stunt. 892 00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:02,080 Speaker 2: Well, madam. Getting messages from from the PR team. They 893 00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:04,319 Speaker 2: want me to they want me to to make a 894 00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:08,719 Speaker 2: to make a to make a announcement here. Yeah, they're 895 00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:10,160 Speaker 2: they're waving at me from down on the field. I 896 00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:11,640 Speaker 2: don't think they realize them on air, but we need 897 00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:13,439 Speaker 2: to go to break here anyways. Uh So I could 898 00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:15,120 Speaker 2: get back on the microphone to tell these people to 899 00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:17,880 Speaker 2: put their cameras away and we will be back to 900 00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:20,400 Speaker 2: continue to break down practice for you. Two more hours 901 00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:23,560 Speaker 2: to go. Special edition of The Drive here on Steelers 902 00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:27,560 Speaker 2: Nation Radio live from training camp on the Steelers Audio Network.