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Speaker 1: Welcome back to Why to Open. I'm your host, Ashlyn Harris,

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Speaker 1: and today's guest is someone who has made a career

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Speaker 1: out of telling the truth before we're ready to hear it,

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Speaker 1: and somehow making us laugh while she does it so beautifully.

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Speaker 1: Chelsea Handler is a comedian, writer, activist, and one of

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Speaker 1: the sharpest cultural voices we have today. She's fearless, she's smart.

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Speaker 1: She's never been interested in playing small or making herself

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Speaker 1: more comfortable or digestible for other people. But what I

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Speaker 1: really really appreciate about Chelsea is how much she's evolved

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Speaker 1: out loud. She's hilarious, she's unapologetic, but there's also a

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Speaker 1: depth and an honesty and a real self awareness that

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Speaker 1: feels especially powerful in this moment. Today, we're talking about

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Speaker 1: what's new, what's coming, what she cares about now, and

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Speaker 1: how humor, freedom and growth all coexist when you stop

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Speaker 1: pretending you have it all figured out. Let's get into it.

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Speaker 1: This is Chelsea Handler on Wide Open with Ashlin Harris.

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Speaker 1: All right, welcome back to Wide Open with Ashlin Harris.

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Speaker 1: We are joined today by the Queen of blunt honesty, comedian, author, entrepreneur,

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Speaker 1: and adventure of Antarctica. I mean, I don't know what's

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Speaker 1: going on there, but we're going to dive in. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to the show, Chelsea Handler. We're so happy you joined us.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Hi, Ashlin I am. I love that intro.

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Speaker 2: I love having Antarctica. By the way, I learned in

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Speaker 2: Antarctica that the correct correct pronunciation is antarcticut. And I'm like, God,

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Speaker 2: that's too many we're not talking about. That's exactly what

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Speaker 2: I said. I go, I can't really, but once I

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Speaker 2: know that I'm mispronouncing something or missaying something, then I

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Speaker 2: really have to fix it. So now I just keep

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Speaker 2: saying Antarctica as many times a day as I can

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Speaker 2: for it to become malifluous.

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Speaker 1: But you know what, this is very American of me

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Speaker 1: to just, you know, I'm gonna say Antarctica. Here we are,

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Speaker 1: I know, I.

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Speaker 2: Think anyways all day long. Anyways, anyways, anyways.

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Speaker 1: Any tomato, Tomato. I mean, I don't know Jersey language.

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Speaker 1: You probably do more than I'm just a resident, So you're.

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Speaker 2: Right, right, well, way to try to separate yourself from

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Speaker 2: the state Ashland. You're you're you're choosing to live in

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Speaker 2: New Jersey, which is a lot different than what happened

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Speaker 2: to me.

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Speaker 1: Okay, well, let me be clear. She's raising two beautiful babies,

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Speaker 1: and the cost of New York City is outrageous, So

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Speaker 1: I'm just like, it's principal for me. I'm like, I'm

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Speaker 1: not paying those prices. We would live in a shoe box.

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Speaker 1: And you know, my partner, she needs seventeen closets, and

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Speaker 1: we're not going to New York City to get bedrooms

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Speaker 1: for the kids and bedrooms as her wardrobe. It's not

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Speaker 2: So I understand. I understand.

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Speaker 1: We're in Jersey, So I hope here's still hoping for

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Speaker 1: winning for you.

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Speaker 2: Guys, yep. And I mean I'm glad that you're being responsible, pragmatic, economical,

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Speaker 2: all the things.

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Speaker 1: I know or that we've laughed about this. If you

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Speaker 1: that makes no sense, just know where it's going.

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Speaker 2: Oh please listen. I have been I have been building

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Speaker 2: a house for four years. So if you see me

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Speaker 2: doing some ads that you don't make a lot of

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Speaker 1: Oh what did you say at dinner? You said, if

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Speaker 1: I'm on a hot air balloon, selling velvet to cheese.

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Speaker 1: Don't fucking ask questions. Just know it's going towards the house.

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Speaker 2: Going towards my house in LA that I still have

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Speaker 2: not lived in.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, oh, oh my god. It kills me. So where

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Speaker 1: are you? You're you're in Whistler today, what's going on?

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Speaker 2: I come to Whistler. I came with to Whistler December first,

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Speaker 2: so I'm here until I come back January first. I'm

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Speaker 2: hosting the Critics' Choice Awards, which is on January fourth,

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Speaker 2: So I'm here for about a month. I'm halfway through

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Speaker 2: my month alone, which has been my niece shows up

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Speaker 2: and then I've had some little visitors, but local visitors,

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Speaker 2: you know, nothing crazy. I like to be alone. I've

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Speaker 2: Christmas is I don't like that. I don't want to

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Speaker 2: I didn't marry these people. I am a grown one.

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Speaker 2: I'm grown ass woman, and I decide what I fucking

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Speaker 1: Hey wait, we have to talk about this because it's

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Speaker 1: so good. You just hit a massive milestone birth like

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Speaker 1: you are. You just turned fifty, by the way, but

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Speaker 1: look in incredible.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: But I do think well, besides your tour throughout I

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Speaker 2: But I'm starting a new tour. So my new tour

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Speaker 2: starts in February this twenty twenty six. So I just

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Speaker 2: announced it. Tickets are now on sale. I am coming

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Speaker 2: to a city near you. It is called the Hight

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Speaker 2: and Mighty Tour. High and Mighty because I will be

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Speaker 2: very high and most of us will be mighty, and

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Speaker 2: together we're going to be higher and mightier. I'm going

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Speaker 2: to regale all of my audience with all of my

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Speaker 2: travel stories this year. It has been ridiculous the amount

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Speaker 2: I've been to, like forty seven countries this year. I've

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Speaker 2: done drugs and probably I've done drugs now on every continent.

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Speaker 2: I've also vomited on every continent, and now I've had

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Speaker 2: sex on every continent. Like I am for you, rushing traveling.

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Speaker 2: I love it.

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Speaker 1: I went to your fiftieth birthday in La and I

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Speaker 1: was a little fearful. I'm going to say. I was like, well,

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Speaker 1: I heard about your birthday party in Whistler, and I

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Speaker 1: and then hearing the stories, I was like, this could

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Speaker 2: It was tame that my La christ I mean my

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Speaker 2: LA birthday party this year was tame. It was tame

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Speaker 2: because I had a party in Whistler. I had won

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Speaker 2: was really nice. Actually way to spend my birthday. I

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Speaker 2: should need that again.

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Speaker 1: This you really should. And I don't know if this

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Speaker 1: is a rumor. I love us. We do. We just

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Speaker 1: totally go off script often. Did I hear that you

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Speaker 2: I have taken parenting classes. I have taken I don't

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Speaker 2: take them currently, but yes, I took some parenting classes

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Speaker 2: because I had some poopsie whoopsies. I'll call them in

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Speaker 2: my life. If you read my last book, then you

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Speaker 2: know what I'm talking about. But for the for anyone

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Speaker 2: who's listening that doesn't know my stuff, I have like

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Speaker 2: these two, well three girls of my life that are

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Speaker 2: now one's thirty four. But yeah, they're like my little babies,

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Speaker 2: and I have to take care of them. So they

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Speaker 1: Well, what did you learn that you want to tell

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Speaker 2: That when children are angry, they are scared, So like

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Speaker 2: you never meet anger with anger. That was important, Never

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Speaker 2: meet anger with anger. So if you're frustrated and you

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Speaker 1: Got it? You do you do that in your relationships? Yeah, yes,

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Speaker 2: that somebody will show up and like you know, reliable

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Speaker 2: on time. I represent that part of their life that

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Speaker 2: they probably need more of, just real like and also

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Speaker 1: It's a lot of pressure that. Yeah, it feels like

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Speaker 2: A lot of pressure to be in high school.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of pressure to do anything these days

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Speaker 1: with social media. So here we are. Good luck to

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Speaker 1: all of us, my poor children. I'm like the things

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Speaker 2: I still can't believe I'm out free right now. While

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Speaker 2: there's social media, and while I talk about how much

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Speaker 1: It feels like this one out you actually touched on

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Speaker 1: love about you, Chelsea is you're insanely smart. You're not

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Speaker 1: just funny. It's not a gimmick. There's so much truth

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Speaker 1: to your like it's you're actually like super super intelligent.

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Speaker 2: I'm smart. I do think that a comedians in general

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Speaker 2: but definitely in Antarctica for sure. That was a psychedelic

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Speaker 2: and I'm not joking. It was a psychedelic conference. So

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Speaker 1: This I like, I need, I need to land the

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Speaker 1: plane about the book, and then we have to get

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Speaker 1: to redefine yourself relationships, choose your own happiness. But like

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Speaker 1: the freedom in which you live for someone like me,

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Speaker 1: Antarctica. Sure, so I saw him in every fucking picture,

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Speaker 2: Everyone loved him. We loved him, and we hung out

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Speaker 1: Here we are. But the real question is have you

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I understand what you're saying.

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Speaker 2: Not that you were intimating that, but to me, that

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Speaker 1: But we have we have him now now I need

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Speaker 2: But that's his name now, Cowboy.

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Speaker 1: Oh so we don't even have a name. We just

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Speaker 2: That's yeah, he's got a name, but Cowboys.

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Speaker 1: His name, Cowboys is name. So tell me about the

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Speaker 2: happened in the last year, a lot of fun dalliances, romances,

431
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Speaker 2: countries I've never been to, continents I've never been to.

432
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Speaker 2: So I'm going to really bring everyone through my life

433
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Speaker 2: and just kind of share all of the place, the

434
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Speaker 2: craziest places I've been to, the craziest places i've brought

435
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Speaker 2: LSD two, the craziest people I've given LSD two, and

436
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Speaker 2: the ways in which I've been able to bop around

437
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Speaker 2: the world and just kind of spread share my medicine

438
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Speaker 2: with people who I knowar medicine. I just want everyone

439
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Speaker 2: to have a little bit of what I'm having, you know,

440
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Speaker 2: what I mean.

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Speaker 1: Well, that's probably why you know you named your book.

442
00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:02,240
Speaker 1: It's like, you know what I really want to have

443
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Speaker 1: what you're having most I'm fucking.

444
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Speaker 2: It so badly that I wanted for everyone else.

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Speaker 1: What would you say, like, because I do think a

446
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Speaker 1: lot of people are now coming around to like microdo scene,

447
00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:21,720
Speaker 1: because I do there's so much trauma and there's so

448
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Speaker 1: much grief, and there's so much shit as humans, like

449
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Speaker 1: it's hard to unpack. And you do talk about therapy

450
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Speaker 1: and you're very open about it and you're an incredible activist,

451
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Speaker 1: But what do you think people are really missing? You know,

452
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Speaker 1: because it is funny when you talk about microdocene, because

453
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Speaker 1: you are fucking funny and you can use it as

454
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Speaker 1: in many different forms and ways. But for someone who's

455
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Speaker 1: like such a little straight needle, what what would you

456
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Speaker 1: tell to people that is really misunderstood about what type

457
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Speaker 1: of breakthroughs it actually can give you?

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Speaker 2: Well, A, it's very therapeutic, So like there's all this

459
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Speaker 2: science and in seriousness, this boat did talk a lot

460
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Speaker 2: about the research that different psychedelics. Paul Stammets, who's a

461
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Speaker 2: lead researcher with psilocybin, and then Rick Goblin who's or

462
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Speaker 2: Doblin is Doblin not Goblin. He's with MDMA. He does

463
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Speaker 2: a lot of research and it is it's just there's

464
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Speaker 2: a healing component to it. And first of all, if

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Speaker 2: you're doing a sit, like a real sit with a

466
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Speaker 2: with a therapist. I have a friends up here who

467
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Speaker 2: are real therapists who do that work. They'll do like

468
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Speaker 2: a four gram mushroom sit or a mushroom or MDMA

469
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Speaker 2: or a ketemine or whatever your drug of choices. Those

470
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Speaker 2: are very very therapeutic for people who have suffered from PTSD,

471
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Speaker 2: whether you're a veteran or whether you were severely traumatized,

472
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Speaker 2: like that helps. It helps with death, It helps in

473
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Speaker 2: finding you have like a terminal diagnosis of some sort

474
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Speaker 2: of you know, disease, Like it helps you confront death,

475
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Speaker 2: it helps you accept death. So there's all these benefits

476
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Speaker 2: to it. But on a microdose level, I would just

477
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Speaker 2: say like that it makes the world a brighter place.

478
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Speaker 2: You a have to be. You can't be on antidepressants.

479
00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:04,400
Speaker 2: It's the same receptor. So like if you're on antiberdepressants,

480
00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:06,560
Speaker 2: microdosing probably isn't going to be the thing for you,

481
00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:11,640
Speaker 2: but you know and obviously you some people don't like drugs.

482
00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:14,600
Speaker 2: I love drugs drugs, and I have a very very

483
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Speaker 2: open dialogue and outstanding So when I talk about like

484
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Speaker 2: microdosing LSD, it's like an eighth of what I would

485
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Speaker 2: take if I were macrodising. Do you know what I mean? Yeah,

486
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Speaker 2: you're taking an eighth so you have the ability to

487
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Speaker 2: charge up and like, Okay, in two hours, I take

488
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Speaker 2: another one and if I'm having But it's it's all

489
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Speaker 2: about being outside and nature. Like MDMA is a huge

490
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Speaker 2: heart opener. If you can microdose MDMA, or you could

491
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Speaker 2: go to like couples counseling with MDMA, you will probably

492
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Speaker 2: have a very happy ending to your marriage or continue

493
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Speaker 2: your marriage. Like it just takes the ego out of

494
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Speaker 2: everything and you are fullulfilled with love. Every time I

495
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Speaker 2: do MDMA, I'm like, why are we not all on MDMA.

496
00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:55,520
Speaker 2: It's so much fun and like, you don't have to

497
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Speaker 2: do it to the degree where it is depleting your serotonin.

498
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Speaker 2: That's not even an iss you like, I don't do

499
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Speaker 2: it like that. I just like I'll go skiing and

500
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Speaker 2: take a little LSD, or I'll go out with my

501
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Speaker 2: friends to a club in New York and take a

502
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Speaker 2: little MDMA. I'm not out of my mind. I'm just vibing,

503
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Speaker 2: and like.

504
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Speaker 1: It makes me.

505
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Speaker 2: See the nature and things that I normally wont when

506
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Speaker 2: it see whatever you're cut off to. It opens like

507
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Speaker 2: I don't appreciate nature the way that I do now

508
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Speaker 2: because of drugs. I didn't appreciate the trees or the

509
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Speaker 2: sky or the stars, or going outside and looking at

510
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Speaker 2: the moon. I'm like, why are we outside? We can

511
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Speaker 2: see the moon from inside, you know, like those kinds

512
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Speaker 2: of things. It really opened me up to to where

513
00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:39,200
Speaker 2: I can slow down and actually take in a vista,

514
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Speaker 2: or I go on a hike and I stop and

515
00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:44,240
Speaker 2: I look, and I'm not just trying there. I'm not

516
00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:46,960
Speaker 2: just there to exercise. So it's kind of whatever you're

517
00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:50,800
Speaker 2: deficient in, it will fill up the whole. And also

518
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Speaker 2: it just makes you so much softer with people, Like

519
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Speaker 2: you know now when I like, I understand people who

520
00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:01,680
Speaker 2: are not smart much better. Okay I did before.

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Speaker 1: That's a break.

522
00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:05,280
Speaker 2: I used to have no patience for people who were

523
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Speaker 2: stupid or did stupid things. I'd be like, that's just

524
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Speaker 2: too dumb. Not that I don't do stupid things. But

525
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Speaker 2: I I just had no patience for others, and now

526
00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:15,560
Speaker 2: I do. I understand now that everyone is dealing with

527
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:18,040
Speaker 2: something and there's a reason why some people are acting

528
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Speaker 2: more stupid than others, like and to be to be

529
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Speaker 2: compassionate about it instead of judgmental, you know. So that's

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Speaker 2: something I'm always I'm always working on my judgment because

531
00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:30,159
Speaker 2: I have I'm a harsh critic and of myself and

532
00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:33,160
Speaker 2: of others, So I really like to just drop the judgment.

533
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Speaker 2: I'm always looking for whatever drug helps me do that.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Well that's great. What would you say is the

535
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Speaker 1: most overrated adult achievement we're all pretending is amazing? Like,

536
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Speaker 1: for example, Trump just got a participation award from FIFA.

537
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Speaker 1: That's like this peace prize some bullshit, and everyone's thinking

538
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Speaker 1: he did it was definitely.

539
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Speaker 2: Approach to shitting his pants. What did he get an

540
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Speaker 2: award for?

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Speaker 1: No one fucking knows way to go.

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00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:07,320
Speaker 2: We know that he should. First of all, FIFA is

543
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:09,400
Speaker 2: like one of the most corrupt organizations of all time,

544
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Speaker 2: isn't it.

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00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:10,520
Speaker 1: Please?

546
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:12,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, so well there you go.

547
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:15,600
Speaker 1: Well, what you say is the most overrated achievement as

548
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:19,959
Speaker 1: an adult that we all keep pretending is amazing getting married.

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00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:24,719
Speaker 2: It's like, you know, that's not I learned that. Congratulations,

550
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:28,040
Speaker 2: you know, and you're it's just all so gross. I love,

551
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:30,280
Speaker 2: like when people want to be together and celebrate and

552
00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:32,359
Speaker 2: they want to get married, that's fine. It's it's what

553
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:35,159
Speaker 2: comes with a wedding. The idea that you have to

554
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:40,040
Speaker 2: put on this hard registering for gifts and that this

555
00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:43,359
Speaker 2: and all these it's just a it's a total capitalistic

556
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:46,880
Speaker 2: shit show. And they've like maybe they make so much,

557
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:49,240
Speaker 2: we're just giving away. Like if you want to be

558
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:52,400
Speaker 2: married to someone, go get married and in the woods

559
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:55,720
Speaker 2: and just the two of you know, like, isn't that

560
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Speaker 2: sexier than a fucking renting out of VFW? And like

561
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:03,199
Speaker 2: dancing in a white dress. It just is so silly

562
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:07,280
Speaker 2: to me. It feels very antiquated, like the whole idea

563
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Speaker 2: of it, Like I can't watch, I'll end up getting married.

564
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:13,120
Speaker 2: But you know, like who knows. Every time I say

565
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Speaker 2: something's gross, I end up doing it.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, so fucking it's so true. And trust me,

567
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:21,880
Speaker 1: nowadays people keep receipts. It's like God forbid if anyone's

568
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Speaker 1: willing to fucking change their mind, they'll hold you to it,

569
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Speaker 1: to your grave, so you know now it's coming for

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Speaker 1: you now, Chelsea.

571
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Speaker 2: And also marriage, Oh god, god, can you imagine after

572
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Speaker 2: all of this, I get married and then I have

573
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Speaker 2: a baby. Chelsea Handler delivers twins. Chelsea Handler's delivers twins

574
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Speaker 2: at age fifty one. I'm gonna be fifty one in February.

575
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Speaker 2: Hopefully I can squeeze them in this year.

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Speaker 1: This is wide open and I'm your host, Ashlyn Harris.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for listening. We'll be right back. We've really we

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Speaker 1: we've really seen it all. But what I do love

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Speaker 1: most and admire most about you is your ability to

580
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 1: speak up with things that matter. I love your activism

581
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:13,080
Speaker 1: like I think than I do, because I do think

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Speaker 1: it's important. I think people who have a lot to lose,

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Speaker 1: which I would consider you as like someone who's built

584
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 1: this beautiful life, and like, you have a lot to lose,

585
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:26,240
Speaker 1: and you don't fucking care, and you're very clear about

586
00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:29,320
Speaker 1: things that matter to you, whether it's politics, women's rights,

587
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:34,000
Speaker 1: my queer community, Like you really don't hide from it,

588
00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:37,520
Speaker 1: and you really stand up for the things you believe in.

589
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 1: And I'm like, what makes you feel that this is

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Speaker 1: so important to speak about these things, especially in the

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Speaker 1: chaos and the political climate that's going on. First, just

592
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:53,040
Speaker 1: like fucking kicking rocks and doing your own shit and

593
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Speaker 1: not worrying about it, Like it takes a lot of

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Speaker 1: vulnerability and bravery to choose that, and not every person

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Speaker 1: in Holly what.

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Speaker 2: Does No, no, and thank you. I just I, you know,

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Speaker 2: I do what I what I can't, what I have

598
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:10,400
Speaker 2: to do, what I think I have to do. I

599
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:13,280
Speaker 2: don't do a lot of overthinking about I mean, I

600
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:18,280
Speaker 2: think about elegant not elegant ways, you know. Discerning. I'm

601
00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:21,960
Speaker 2: very discerning, more discerning about when to say something and

602
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:25,720
Speaker 2: how to say it instead of screaming and yelling and crying.

603
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:28,280
Speaker 2: Isn't the way to get a message across. It's being

604
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:31,040
Speaker 2: calm and happy and joyful, you know, Like that's the

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00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:33,280
Speaker 2: best way to get a message across. Is actually not

606
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:35,800
Speaker 2: being threatening to another person. So that took me a

607
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:38,080
Speaker 2: few years because I used to just like go off

608
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Speaker 2: on things all the time without really having any circumspect

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Speaker 2: about it or being circumspect about it. And so I

610
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Speaker 2: think I've learned over the years that it's like important

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Speaker 2: when you do weigh in what you're saying and how

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Speaker 2: you're saying it. So I just I take that into consideration.

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Speaker 2: But I'm never going to be a person that doesn't

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Speaker 2: stand up for I mean I was like that in

615
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Speaker 2: third grade when a girl had to like eat by

616
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Speaker 2: yourself in a corner. I mean I remember her name,

617
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:04,320
Speaker 2: you know. I was like, there's no way we're allowing

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Speaker 2: that to happen, you know, like we're not going to

619
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Speaker 2: leave some girl alone in a corner, you know, Like

620
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Speaker 2: I've always been like that. I just don't want That's

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Speaker 2: It's the most natural human instinct is like would I

622
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Speaker 2: like that? No, So this person probably doesn't like being

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Speaker 2: targeted and discriminated against because they've chosen to be public

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Speaker 2: about feeling like a human being. You know what it makes,

625
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 2: what it takes. So I think being supportive of others

626
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:35,040
Speaker 2: is really just like the main ingredient in any person

627
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Speaker 2: I would ever have in my life. Like I couldn't

628
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Speaker 2: be friends with people who who don't know what's going

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Speaker 2: on or don't care well.

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Speaker 1: I mean not these days, like it just has gotten

631
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Speaker 1: to be so hateful and so unhinged and people like

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00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 1: there is no in between. It's very It's how do

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Speaker 1: you protect your joy and boundaries in this because of work,

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Speaker 1: because your work does overlap with in politics and totally.

635
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Speaker 2: But I'm I'm pretty like I'm in Canada now. I

636
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Speaker 2: come for a month. I'm not on social media. I'm

637
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:10,960
Speaker 2: not reading the news every day. I read the news

638
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:13,280
Speaker 2: once a week because I don't need to be fired

639
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 2: up every single day and have it steal my joy.

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Speaker 2: I already did that for one term, and I'm not

641
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:20,960
Speaker 2: doing it this time. But I definitely am, you know,

642
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:25,640
Speaker 2: link a clue in to the healthiest in the healthiest

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Speaker 2: way that I can be instead of like, you know,

644
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Speaker 2: scrolling all day.

645
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 1: Long on my phone.

646
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:30,920
Speaker 2: I don't do that anymore.

647
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 1: Crazy.

648
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:33,760
Speaker 2: I don't read the news all day long. I don't

649
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 2: look for updates. It's easier being in Canada. That's why

650
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 2: I remove myself. You know, it's one of the greatest

651
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:42,120
Speaker 2: things about being up here. And nobody's talking. I mean,

652
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 2: people are talking about it, but they're not talking about

653
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:46,560
Speaker 2: it to the extent that I'm living in it. So

654
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:48,920
Speaker 2: I find that that's a healthy balance for me. I

655
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:50,760
Speaker 2: did the same thing this year in Spain. I went

656
00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:52,600
Speaker 2: to Spain for three weeks. I didn't I didn't look

657
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:55,240
Speaker 2: at the news. I listened to a bunch of political podcasts,

658
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:57,520
Speaker 2: but I did not read the news, yeah, for about

659
00:32:57,560 --> 00:32:59,479
Speaker 2: a week and a half at one point, And I

660
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:02,360
Speaker 2: just think that those breaks make it easier to understand

661
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 2: and be calm, Like I really feel like the most

662
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:09,720
Speaker 2: important disposition is to maintain some a state of like equanimity,

663
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:13,280
Speaker 2: to know, like, Okay, I'm safe, everyone that I love

664
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:16,560
Speaker 2: is safe. This is a terrible situation. This man is crazy.

665
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:19,520
Speaker 2: The system is about to collapse. It is how I feel. Yes,

666
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 2: our governmental political situation is going to collapse, and this

667
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 2: is the break that we need to rebuild. And unfortunate

668
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 2: as it is and how many people are suffering through

669
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:33,000
Speaker 2: this makes me sick to my stomach. So we have

670
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 2: to rebuild and figure out what our plan is going

671
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:38,280
Speaker 2: to be when this magashit is over.

672
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:39,840
Speaker 1: Because it's going to be. Yeah, it is.

673
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:40,760
Speaker 2: I agree with you.

674
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:43,760
Speaker 1: I do think it's collapsing. And you're seeing this in

675
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 1: the way people are voting right now, and yeah, all

676
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:48,720
Speaker 1: the shit that's actually just unfolding.

677
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:51,640
Speaker 2: And also, you know, I want I'm sure there's a

678
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:54,920
Speaker 2: ton of women listening to this podcast, so like I

679
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:57,200
Speaker 2: just you know, this is to me, is just all

680
00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 2: just a referendum on women's power, women's empowerment, and men

681
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:05,719
Speaker 2: being fucking scared of what women are gonna do because

682
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:08,520
Speaker 2: because we're not going anywhere, like you guys have been

683
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 2: trying to erase, like erase our history, you know, from

684
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 2: centuries and millions and of years ago. We are still

685
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:19,360
Speaker 2: not giving credit, you know, like why is every famous

686
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:22,319
Speaker 2: artist a man? Why is every It's such bullshit, It's

687
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:25,759
Speaker 2: like that's not true. There are millions of books about it,

688
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:28,319
Speaker 2: art history, books about you know, all the women that

689
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 2: contributed to the Renaissance, all the women that are contributed

690
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:36,239
Speaker 2: to you know, writing that don't get credit for all

691
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:38,319
Speaker 2: these men that gets credit, all these world leaders that

692
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:40,759
Speaker 2: get credit when they're women or their wives, you know,

693
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:48,400
Speaker 2: even like Clementine Churchill's wife, everything she did behind the scenes,

694
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 2: she was his advisor. Like just like men now are

695
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:55,200
Speaker 2: at a place where they're like fuck fuck fucked. Yeah.

696
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:58,600
Speaker 2: Women are now talking about not having children, they're talking

697
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:01,400
Speaker 2: about not getting married, and they if they want a baby,

698
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:04,799
Speaker 2: they don't even need us. No, So of course this

699
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:08,440
Speaker 2: is like the death cof of white supremacy and male patriarchy.

700
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:11,160
Speaker 2: Of course, that's what's happening. But I don't know if

701
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 2: this is just the next twenty years or the next

702
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 2: two hundred years, you know, like in the in the

703
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 2: the whole long lens of history where we just might

704
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:23,759
Speaker 2: be in the middle of it. I don't know we're

705
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 2: at the end of it.

706
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 1: So what you're saying is you protect your peace by

707
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:33,240
Speaker 1: going to Whistler to ski and all the all the

708
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 1: fucking chaos the system in politics in the US are

709
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:41,200
Speaker 1: creating for us, Like I I yeah, I couldn't agree more.

710
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:44,319
Speaker 1: Is that Is that a big reason when you go

711
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 1: there and shut off, Like, is skiing your therapy and

712
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:51,839
Speaker 1: your way to just fucking cut the noise of all

713
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:55,240
Speaker 1: the bullshit going on right now? Or has this always

714
00:35:55,320 --> 00:36:00,080
Speaker 1: been skiing? Have you? Because you're very athletic like you, you're.

715
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:02,360
Speaker 2: F I'm a professional athlete.

716
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 1: I really apprear you. Forty spice. I see you at

717
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:06,920
Speaker 1: all those You are a forty spice.

718
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:09,920
Speaker 2: You should have seen me yesterday. My friend Christine, Okay,

719
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 2: she's the one who came with me to Antarctica. My

720
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:13,880
Speaker 2: friend Christine takes me on a hike. We go for

721
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:15,719
Speaker 2: a dog walk in the afternoon, right we go in

722
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 2: the woods off the in the back of her house.

723
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:19,840
Speaker 2: We go for and there's all these trees and and

724
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 2: and there's a and it's been raining non stop here,

725
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:24,920
Speaker 2: so there's these huge puddles and our dogs are like

726
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:26,600
Speaker 2: in the puddles. And she's like, I don't even think

727
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 2: we can cross through that puddle. And I'm like no,

728
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:30,360
Speaker 2: and she goes, let's just climb up this way. And

729
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 2: it was like a moss moss wall, like a ninety

730
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 2: degree vertical angle. And I'm like, uh, I have fucking

731
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 2: rain boots on. And so we start climbing and I'm

732
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:44,440
Speaker 2: like basically holding onto trees as I'm climbing, and I'm like, Christine,

733
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 2: are you being serious right now? Is this the hike?

734
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:48,840
Speaker 2: And I mean, like we were going for a walk,

735
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:51,319
Speaker 2: And she's like, well, you're in Canada, now, you can

736
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:53,840
Speaker 2: handle it. I get to the top. I get to

737
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:56,719
Speaker 2: the top, and by the way, like this was not

738
00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,480
Speaker 2: like a beginner like you needed a fucking hiking booths

739
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:03,359
Speaker 2: and crampons probably Anyway, I get to the top, she goes,

740
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:05,839
Speaker 2: it's so windy up here, and We're like whoo. And

741
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 2: I got up and it was like they said don't

742
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:09,760
Speaker 2: go on the mountain yesterday because it was one hundred

743
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 2: and eighty kilometer winds. You can translate that to America,

744
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:16,840
Speaker 2: which is probably like ninety miles an hour or something. Jesus, yeah,

745
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:21,200
Speaker 2: fucking crazy. So I'm like, uh, more than that. So

746
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 2: we get up to the top of this like wooded

747
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:27,800
Speaker 2: area and it was so windy, and it was so windy,

748
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:31,840
Speaker 2: and then we start going, we start descending, and we

749
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:33,839
Speaker 2: just kind of sat and looked at the wind because

750
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 2: it was so beautiful, you know. And we started descending

751
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:40,000
Speaker 2: and she goes, Chelsea, there's a tree, and a tree

752
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:43,839
Speaker 2: behind me snaps falls over in the forest. And then

753
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:46,719
Speaker 2: I look and I see another one snap fall over.

754
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:48,560
Speaker 2: And then we both looked to our right and we

755
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 2: see one snap. So three trees fell in the woods

756
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:55,160
Speaker 2: like we're whipped by the wind that they broke them.

757
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:57,680
Speaker 2: They fell in the forest. And I looked at you.

758
00:37:57,840 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 2: I looked at Christina. I go what to wait?

759
00:37:59,680 --> 00:37:59,839
Speaker 1: Eight?

760
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:03,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm like, where do we hide? She's like, we

761
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:06,240
Speaker 2: have to get the lower ground. I'm like, no, we can't.

762
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:08,799
Speaker 2: The trees are like I thought for that moment, the

763
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:11,920
Speaker 2: trees were just coming out like a horror movie and

764
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:14,040
Speaker 2: we were going to get eaten by trees.

765
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:17,080
Speaker 1: It feels very final destination for me right now.

766
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:20,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was very It was very and Christine is calm.

767
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:23,200
Speaker 2: And then as soon as we got to safety, we

768
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:25,719
Speaker 2: got down. We got down. We're just like sliding down

769
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 2: the moss, sliding down the moss, and my dog is

770
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:31,800
Speaker 2: sliding down with me. You know, I'm like, stay with me, Doug, Doug,

771
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:34,920
Speaker 2: of course. And then and then we got down and

772
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:36,800
Speaker 2: I was like, it was two thirty in the afternoon.

773
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:38,600
Speaker 2: I was like, we're going to need a stiff cocktail.

774
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:40,480
Speaker 2: And that's what we did. We went back to our

775
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:41,760
Speaker 2: house and had a gin and soda.

776
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 1: I feel like you've been preparing for this with Ben

777
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 1: for quite some time. And for those of you who

778
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:51,759
Speaker 1: don't know who Ben is, Chelsea, please please give us

779
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 1: a short little snip of your trainer. Ben. You guys

780
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 1: have been together for like ten years.

781
00:38:57,200 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 2: Right, The longest relationship I've ever had is with my trainer.

782
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 2: I'm not joking. It's ridiculous. We've been together for I

783
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:05,720
Speaker 2: don't know how many years. It's been a long time.

784
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:08,839
Speaker 1: That is a comedy show in itself. You two think

785
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:13,880
Speaker 1: out it's fucking it is hilarious, It really is. Come on,

786
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 1: be honest, you're here. Dynamic, he's like.

787
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:19,279
Speaker 2: Dealing with an eight year old boy like a br

788
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:22,759
Speaker 2: like he is like a brh. He's not even a bro,

789
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 2: he's a br He's just so dense and he has

790
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 2: like no nuance. It's just like dealing with It's like

791
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:33,920
Speaker 2: being in New Jersey at a gym with a trainer

792
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:36,879
Speaker 2: from New Jersey. That's what Ben and I are like.

793
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:40,799
Speaker 1: Do you feel that his job is training you or

794
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:43,640
Speaker 1: is been being your like emotional handler?

795
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 2: No, doesn't have emotions. He is not. He's definitely dealt

796
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:51,720
Speaker 2: with my emotions at certain points throughout our relationship. Because obviously,

797
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 2: after twelve years or however long you said it was,

798
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 2: which is probably true, we've been through a lot together, marriages, babies, dogs, death,

799
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:04,120
Speaker 2: blah blah, friendship, ending stuff with our friends and and

800
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:08,200
Speaker 2: but so, yes, I have leaned on him before, but

801
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:10,359
Speaker 2: that's only because like I had to, I had an

802
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:13,279
Speaker 2: outburst or I was overcome with emotion, I had no

803
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 2: one else, you know, he was just there. I would

804
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:18,600
Speaker 2: never seek him out for emotional support. He's just not

805
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:19,600
Speaker 2: the guy.

806
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:22,680
Speaker 1: He's he makes you know you're looking you're that body

807
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:24,720
Speaker 1: is really snack body.

808
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:27,120
Speaker 2: It is because of Ben Bruno and I'm pretty pretty.

809
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:30,120
Speaker 2: My messuse last night she took a picture goes, oh

810
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:31,640
Speaker 2: my god, you have to see your back and I

811
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 2: was like why, and she goes, it's so muscular. So

812
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:36,920
Speaker 2: she took a picture of my back and sent it

813
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:38,640
Speaker 2: to me and I just looked at it. I'm like,

814
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:39,479
Speaker 2: I wish there was someone.

815
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:43,680
Speaker 1: Well, hello, all your sporty spice girls. We need to

816
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:44,759
Speaker 1: have our own chat.

817
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:47,200
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, she get on a lesbo chat.

818
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 1: That's what I need to get in the lesbo chat.

819
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:51,000
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know what is wrong with you

820
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 1: that you're not that Please okay, I will, So just

821
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 1: to tie this up in a bow, I'm going to

822
00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:59,440
Speaker 1: do some rapid fire questions for you, which I'm okay,

823
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:03,720
Speaker 1: You're gonna have no problem with. What's something you're obsessed

824
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:04,319
Speaker 1: with right now?

825
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 2: My dog, I'm pretty I'm just into his mane. He

826
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:12,440
Speaker 2: has this lion's mane around him, and he comes in

827
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:14,799
Speaker 2: from the rain like he has this dog walker takes

828
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 2: him on these big hikes and then he comes home

829
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 2: and he's fucking so already looks like thirty pounds later.

830
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:23,919
Speaker 2: Every and then somehow in the morning his lion's mane

831
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:26,880
Speaker 2: has just sprung right back up, it looks like. And

832
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:28,719
Speaker 2: in the morning he comes in and he comes to

833
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:30,360
Speaker 2: my bed, and he's like, come on, let's do a

834
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 2: little cuddle. He's just so good looking.

835
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 1: It's his tongue for me too. The tongue is yummy.

836
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 1: It's like black spots or something purple purple up there

837
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:41,880
Speaker 1: it is.

838
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:43,319
Speaker 2: He's such a love.

839
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:45,360
Speaker 1: That was a very gay thing I said, and you

840
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 1: didn't even catch it. I'm actually sorry.

841
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 2: Well that means I'm gay, probably.

842
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:59,720
Speaker 1: One thing you'll never apologize for, just being myself. Yeah,

843
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:02,880
Speaker 1: that's fair. I like that. What's a habit you're trying

844
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:03,919
Speaker 1: but failing to quit?

845
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:13,399
Speaker 2: Trying to quit? I'm trying to form a habit. I'm

846
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:15,879
Speaker 2: trying to form a couple habits that I'm not really

847
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:18,959
Speaker 2: being successful at. But what habit am I trying to quit?

848
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:21,879
Speaker 2: I mean, I prefer not to smoke cigarettes. Every once

849
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:24,440
Speaker 2: in a while I have a cigarette, and I just

850
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:27,239
Speaker 2: I don't want to be somebody who smokes cigarettes. But

851
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:30,760
Speaker 2: sometimes I do. I don't know, so I'm not happy

852
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:31,279
Speaker 2: about it.

853
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:34,479
Speaker 1: That's okay. We all have our you know, our thing.

854
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:36,840
Speaker 2: But what else to be something I would like to do?

855
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's a that's a good one, especially

856
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:42,719
Speaker 1: how let's keep you healthy and around forever. I like that.

857
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:45,959
Speaker 1: What's something people because you are so open, what's something

858
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:47,680
Speaker 1: that people get totally wrong about you?

859
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Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know what people think about me.

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Speaker 2: I stopped thinking about that a long time ago, So

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Speaker 2: I don't know what they get wrong about me. I

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Speaker 2: mean it's pretty much out there, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but you're supplyed surprisingly way warmer than you you

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Speaker 1: make your self health out to be well.

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Speaker 2: Then that's probably it. They probably think I'm a bitch,

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Speaker 2: you know.

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Speaker 1: And you're very gracious like you, like you were just saying,

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Speaker 1: you bring like all of your people with you. I

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Speaker 1: mean there was like a whole posse of people on

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Speaker 1: this ant Arcaica trip, So I do think that that's

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Speaker 1: a special quality.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, thank you. I like to I like to

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Speaker 2: have a good time with my friends.

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Speaker 1: I'd like to know how to make that list next time.

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Speaker 1: That's what I want to know. What's what's the criteria

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Speaker 1: to be?

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Speaker 2: You know what I mean? The travelers this is what

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Speaker 2: I'm going to do this year. I'm going to put

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Speaker 2: together an actual list of all the people in my

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Speaker 2: life that I haven't been on vacation with so we

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Speaker 2: can make that happen in the coming year. That's what

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Speaker 2: I want to do.

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Speaker 1: Done will count me in. You don't have to twist

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Speaker 1: my own I will hold down. I will check the

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Speaker 1: queer box for you of the group, so you have

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Speaker 1: plenty of gay friends. That really means nothing. But what's

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Speaker 1: your most high and mighty moment of this year for

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Speaker 1: a woman who lives a full fucking life. You tell me.

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Speaker 2: I guess.

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Speaker 3: Cruising into Antarctica, Like you see this massive iceberg that

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Speaker 3: is like a scene out of Titanic, and they tell

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00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:36,640
Speaker 3: you when you can see it and you've crossed sixty

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Speaker 3: degrees latitude.

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Speaker 2: And we were outside on the boat in a snowstorm

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Speaker 2: on MDMA and that moment of seeing that iceberg, which

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00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:50,399
Speaker 2: was like a day away but because of and it

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00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:53,279
Speaker 2: was light the entire time. It never got dark because

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Speaker 2: we were in the Southern Hemisphere's their summer, so it

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Speaker 2: just got a little bit like, you know, a little

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Speaker 2: darker out, but not dark. It was just like, you know,

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Speaker 2: kind of mid afternoon sun. But seeing that image and

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00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:09,480
Speaker 2: being high and being with all these people, we just

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00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:12,480
Speaker 2: was like it was like a magical moment where you

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Speaker 2: believe in God. You're like something something.

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Speaker 1: Oh, now I get it, Yes, that moment. Okay, I

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Speaker 1: can fuck with this. Well, Chelsea, thank you so much

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Speaker 1: for coming on. I appreciate you so so so much,

908
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 1: and the way you show up, the way you use

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00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:32,560
Speaker 1: your voice, and you know your comedy actually fucking kills

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Speaker 1: me most days. So I appreciate you coming on. Wide open,

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00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 1: all of you listening and watching. Make sure you check out.

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Speaker 1: Chelsea has five more dates in Vegas twenty twenty six

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Speaker 1: and the High and Mighty tour. You don't want to

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Speaker 1: miss it.

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Speaker 2: So Chelsea, I meant see me. Go to Chelsealler dot

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Speaker 2: com for your tickets. I'm coming to a city near you.

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Speaker 2: My tour starts in February.

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Speaker 1: Great.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Ashland. I love you.

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Speaker 1: I love you.

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Speaker 2: I can't wait to see you soon.

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Speaker 1: Well you are because I've been knocking on that fucking

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Speaker 1: whistler door. Chelsea. Thank you for being here. Thank you

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Speaker 1: for the laughter, the honesty, and for reminding us that

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00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:18,160
Speaker 1: growth doesn't mean losing your edge. There's something really powerful

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Speaker 1: about watching someone continue to evolve without apologizing for who

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Speaker 1: they've been or who they're becoming. You've built a life

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Speaker 1: where humor and truth can sit side by side, and

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of people feel seen because of that.

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Speaker 1: To everyone listening, thank you for spending this time with us.

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Speaker 1: If this conversation made you laugh, think, or feel a

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Speaker 1: hear it.

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Speaker 1: This is Wide Open with Ashlin Harris and we'll see

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