Speaker 1: Crime. Hello everyone, and welcome back to Real Time Crime.
Speaker 1: I'm your host le Lamar, and I have with me
Speaker 1: today my friend sometimes Dmitri. Hello Dmitri. I want it
Speaker 1: clear that you said my friend sometimes have the title,
Speaker 1: not my sometimes friends. So at least we got that
Speaker 1: out of the the way. That's official. Well, when you think
Speaker 1: about it that way, I mean, I guess you are
Speaker 1: sometimes my friends. Oh, I appreciate that too. I'll take it.
Speaker 1: Hello and you guys. Today we're going to be discussing
Speaker 1: a lot of hot topics. You already know how hot
Speaker 1: they are. One is and it's weird for me to
Speaker 1: say hot before I read this one, but Colorado passing
Speaker 1: a law about children playing outside alone based on maturity level.
Speaker 1: L O L. Sony and Netflix halting Will Smith projects
Speaker 1: yea A, an author of How to Murder Your Husband,
Speaker 1: goes to trial for allegedly killing her husband, and then,
Speaker 1: of course the case that everyone's talking about, the Sacramento shooting,
Speaker 1: and joining us today, I have with me one of
Speaker 1: my favorite human beings. He's a stand up comedian. You
Speaker 1: know him from work on Holics, from I'm Dying up here,
Speaker 1: Mike and Dave need wedding dates from Riffin with Griffin.
Speaker 1: He's a star, he's my friend, He's hilarious. Eric Griffin
Speaker 1: go on, I'm going to his wedding for sure. Confirmed?
Speaker 1: Oh is it? I think I think it is. I
Speaker 1: went on a date with his fiance last night. And think,
Speaker 1: by the way, Eric, thanks for dinner. Yeah, that's how
Speaker 1: you get into invited to a wedding. You go out
Speaker 1: with the with the significant other alone when you get it.
Speaker 1: I just had to get them in a a in
Speaker 1: a in a group chat and just know Jewish girls unite,
Speaker 1: and then now they were like besties. Yeah. And then
Speaker 1: we face timed him and Eric was like, have my
Speaker 1: back and I was like, sorry, I met Rachel and
Speaker 1: now I got Rachel's back. So by Eric. Also, before
Speaker 1: we talk about me and Eric for a second, I
Speaker 1: just want to address a new Hollywood crime that's come out.
Speaker 1: It's called my spray tan. Yeah, okay, so if you
Speaker 1: can't see it, uh, Leah has those your finger There
Speaker 1: will be a clip of this. Would you say, are
Speaker 1: those your fingerprints? Yes, you tanned with somebody. Here's the
Speaker 1: do you guys think I did it? I mean called
Speaker 1: bronze handed. Yeah, I have your first time doing it.
Speaker 1: Um no, this is the first time I had someone
Speaker 1: else do it for me. And let me say mistake.
Speaker 1: Letting someone else see my naked body without receiving a
Speaker 1: compliment was so odd. We didn't even have sex. It
Speaker 1: was like what am I paying for? Anyway? Um, welcome
Speaker 1: back to Okay, Eric, Are you so glad you agreed
Speaker 1: to do this? Oh my god, this is early in
Speaker 1: the morning to even think about your pale, pink naked body.
Speaker 1: And and the best part, let me just tell you this.
Speaker 1: When I was drying myself off after I looked in
Speaker 1: the mirror and I was like, damn, I look so good.
Speaker 1: And I looked at myself in the backside and I
Speaker 1: bent over and when you like, my butt cheeks spread apart,
Speaker 1: just like white down the cray Like, I can't have
Speaker 1: sex with anyone. This is embarrassing. I don't even know
Speaker 1: what to deal with this, Like I have a white crack.
Speaker 1: Good morning. So this is what we do here, We
Speaker 1: go through crimes and connect dots. So you were out
Speaker 1: with Eric's fiance last night and somebody gave you a
Speaker 1: naked spray tan. This was this all on the same yes,
Speaker 1: And then I woke up a loan officer. Okay, so, um, Eric,
Speaker 1: before we get into the crime, the people want to
Speaker 1: know how we know each other. Um, what do you mean?
Speaker 1: We can do comedy, but not everyone knows that. I
Speaker 1: opened on the road for Eric. We've gone to many
Speaker 1: a city together. Um. I torture Eric with my guy issues,
Speaker 1: and we spend most of our meals discussing all the
Speaker 1: problems that I have. Crack. Well, this is why, don't
Speaker 1: worry Rachel. Rachel came home and was like all she
Speaker 1: did was talking about her ex. Yeah, Lee is one
Speaker 1: of those man just you have to hear about her
Speaker 1: terrible choice in man anytime you go out with her. Well,
Speaker 1: what else am I gonna talk about my career? Which
Speaker 1: that or your apparently that or your butt? Crack? So
Speaker 1: thank you? Yeah, I mean so really we've so anyway, Um, Eric, Eric,
Speaker 1: people want to know what made you want to be
Speaker 1: a comedian. This is what we're gonna talk about. What
Speaker 1: we just have to introduce you to the world. Nobody cares.
Speaker 1: Let's get to the crimes. You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: They you know what I mean, Come on, let's here
Speaker 1: for it. They don't need a weird bio about me.
Speaker 1: I was funny. I became a comic. Here we are
Speaker 1: your god. This is gonna be a great episode. So,
Speaker 1: by the way, this is what he does on stage two.
Speaker 1: He's like, I got a bunch of setups and some punchlines.
Speaker 1: All right, thanks for coming everybody. Thanks set up, set up, laugh, laugh, laugh,
Speaker 1: where's my check? I love? Rachel told me last night.
Speaker 1: I mean, you've told me a version of this, but
Speaker 1: I heard it from Rachel's mouth last night about how
Speaker 1: you guys met h the laughs of stuff. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's all the same, yeah, but it was. It was funny.
Speaker 1: She was like on a date and brought him to
Speaker 1: the comedy store. Yeah, well she told me that anyway. No,
Speaker 1: she went to the improv like yeah, yeah. But as
Speaker 1: I was talking to her, she was like, I want
Speaker 1: to come to the show because I want to come
Speaker 1: to your show. Then she's like, well, I'm kind of
Speaker 1: I'm already going to be with someone, you know, who's
Speaker 1: gonna buy my drinks. This is exactly how she said it,
Speaker 1: you know. And I was like, I'll get you in.
Speaker 1: It's fine. So then I see her in the crowd.
Speaker 1: I'm doing my jokes and I had I have particular
Speaker 1: jokes perfect for this situation. So I have jokes about
Speaker 1: like I'm not going to be your friend, and that
Speaker 1: this poor idiot is sitting behind her, you know, you know,
Speaker 1: like just an idiot, you know what I mean, Like
Speaker 1: I'm clear, you know. And then but then I didn't
Speaker 1: wait to say hi to her after the show, and
Speaker 1: she was like you didn't wait? Why could you didn't
Speaker 1: say hi to me? I was like, you're on a date,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like, what do you I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna say. I don't care, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: And then I went and then she invited me to
Speaker 1: another place, Delilah's, where she was on another date again,
Speaker 1: but she was but she was mad at the guy
Speaker 1: because she was watching him sing. He was a singer
Speaker 1: and he invited a bunch of girls and her to
Speaker 1: watch him sing. So she got mad and was like, well,
Speaker 1: I'm in inviting somebody over, you know. So I came
Speaker 1: and the guy just happened to be a fan of me.
Speaker 1: He was like, oh, wow, sit here at our table,
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, that's great, and then I
Speaker 1: took her out. We went out and we went talking,
Speaker 1: and then the next thing we started hanging out and
Speaker 1: the next thing you know, we're dating and then now
Speaker 1: years later we're engaged. So I gotta pull Rachel and
Speaker 1: somehow what does that even mean? What does that mean
Speaker 1: to you? Pull a Rachel? Do you have to pay
Speaker 1: for everything? Okay? Well, hey yes, Eric, can I get
Speaker 1: a credit card? This is the weird time for publicly
Speaker 1: would be better than privately? And then okay, alright, so
Speaker 1: just bring dates to places where the guy I actually
Speaker 1: like might be. Yeah, you'd be surprised how that of effects.
Speaker 1: It sparks the it's spark the competition in a man.
Speaker 1: You're also pathetic. Well, it sparks competition with with a man,
Speaker 1: except for you, because you were like, I'm not sticking
Speaker 1: around and say hi, screw that. But then that made
Speaker 1: her be like, you know, now I flipped the script,
Speaker 1: that's what. Yeah, you flipped in and she was like, hey,
Speaker 1: why don't you come to this place where my other boyfriend? Exactly?
Speaker 1: All right, a man? So I stole her from two men?
Speaker 1: How about that? When when two oh, Eric, watching the
Speaker 1: men laugh at this is very discomforting. Discomforting. It's too
Speaker 1: early to do anything. All right, let's get into the
Speaker 1: hot topics. Thanks for sharing your love life with us, Eric,
Speaker 1: because mine it's not fun to listen to. It is
Speaker 1: not trust everyone's cool case right now? It was d
Speaker 1: O A cool. It's actually open it It's actually an
Speaker 1: open and shut case. The guys are just gone, I think, yeah,
Speaker 1: if they're just like who murdered Lee? Is love life?
Speaker 1: Leah did it's self inflicting dead? All right, you guys,
Speaker 1: let's hop into these hot topics. The first one is
Speaker 1: Colorado passes law allowing children to play outside alone based
Speaker 1: on maturity level. Okay. A Colorado governor signed a bill
Speaker 1: into law on Wednesday allowing children to play outside independently
Speaker 1: without it being labeled abuse or neglect. The state's previous
Speaker 1: law caused as spike and complaints towards parents who are
Speaker 1: accused of neglect whenever their children were seen playing outside
Speaker 1: or walking to school alone. Two one thousand calls to
Speaker 1: the state's child abuse hotline in one and only thirteen
Speaker 1: thousand calls were actually accurate. The bill states that a
Speaker 1: child is not neglected when allowed to participate in certain
Speaker 1: independent activities that are reasonable and prudent parent, guardian or
Speaker 1: legal custodian would consider safe. Given the child's maturity, condition
Speaker 1: or abilities. Uh yeah, what this makes a perfect sense
Speaker 1: to me. I used to walk to you. So a
Speaker 1: kid can't walk to school, they can't ride their bike
Speaker 1: to school without their parents like that? What what kind
Speaker 1: of nonsense is this? This is some woke policing bullshit. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is this is what the problem is is they
Speaker 1: need to like, the law should be if you call
Speaker 1: the police unwarrantedly, you should be fined. That's the law
Speaker 1: they need to put into If you're a Karen looking
Speaker 1: outside and you see a kid and you're like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, I see a child by themselves, you should
Speaker 1: be fined. That's what should happen. They should be a
Speaker 1: fifty dollar fine every time you call the cops stupidly.
Speaker 1: I used to walk to school by myself. I used
Speaker 1: to go to the the park by myself. Yeah, what are
Speaker 1: we talking about? How I turned out? I'm just fine.
Speaker 1: Kids can't. Kids can't play in the yard, they can't
Speaker 1: Like what are you what are we talking about right now?
Speaker 1: I mean living living in fear? Just it sounds really stupid.
Speaker 1: I think that the law that, like I said, the
Speaker 1: law that should go into a place right now is
Speaker 1: if you call the cops unjustly or uh for a
Speaker 1: ridiculous reason, you should be fined. Yeah, I feel bad.
Speaker 1: Thirteen thousand of them were accurate, but you know, so
Speaker 1: it's nice that whatever situation that was brought attention to it.
Speaker 1: But that's out of two thousand. That's I agree, that's
Speaker 1: just people like seeing something and calling it. But also
Speaker 1: it's like based on the maturity level, that's not going
Speaker 1: to fix it, right, because if I say my kids
Speaker 1: old enough to walk to school alone, it's not like
Speaker 1: I'm not going to stop by the neighbors and be like,
Speaker 1: just so you know, I have okay, this is they're
Speaker 1: mature enough. And also people's gauge of how mature people
Speaker 1: are it's always off anyway, So yeah, that's always like right,
Speaker 1: it's and it's also like do you just put a
Speaker 1: label on their backpack like mature a fright? You know.
Speaker 1: That's like that's like when I was eighteen and I
Speaker 1: remember all these like much older men and would be like,
Speaker 1: you're so wise beyond your years. It's like, no, I'm eighteen,
Speaker 1: just so you're aware. I I'm definitely just turned eighteen.
Speaker 1: That's like the that's the predator tagline well also Dmitri
Speaker 1: as the only parent of the three of us. How
Speaker 1: do you feel about this? I mean, I think, like
Speaker 1: I said, I appreciate people somewhat looking out, but I
Speaker 1: think people are too quick to judge and too quick
Speaker 1: to like raise a red flag and try and get
Speaker 1: parents in trouble. Like kids, we did a lot of
Speaker 1: ship when we're young, Like I didn't get now I
Speaker 1: bring my kids, you know, driving to practice. I used
Speaker 1: to go home to an empty house, get my baseball
Speaker 1: met and go to baseball practice, like like there's stuff
Speaker 1: that goes on. But I was I was a singer.
Speaker 1: My mom was a single parent. I was an only child,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I had to go do
Speaker 1: I had to do stuff on my own, you know.
Speaker 1: And and how about and how about just look out
Speaker 1: for the kids instead of calling you're looking out, you
Speaker 1: see something funky that you come out there. It takes
Speaker 1: a village, they say, you know what I mean. So
Speaker 1: now the village there's no village anymore. It's just Karen's like,
Speaker 1: you know, being like, you know, thinking they're doing something,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It's like, why aren't we
Speaker 1: calling in the white vans? Like why are we Why
Speaker 1: are we calling in the children? You know, it's like
Speaker 1: this random guy's offering people M and m's like, maybe
Speaker 1: we should be like that guy. Seems a little off putting. Yeah,
Speaker 1: weird society we live in right now. You knows, this
Speaker 1: is the first time I'm hearing you're an only child,
Speaker 1: and it actually makes a lot of sense. Now, so
Speaker 1: thanks for sharing that detail. I don't even know what
Speaker 1: that means, and I'm not I'm not even going to
Speaker 1: I'm not going to acknowledge. I'm not even going to
Speaker 1: acknowledge this part of the show. Let's move on to
Speaker 1: the next topic. Thank you. The next time. How to
Speaker 1: murder your opener, sorry, I mean husband. How to Murder
Speaker 1: your husband writer goes on trial for but on drum roll,
Speaker 1: allegedly killing her spouse. All right, you guys, this is
Speaker 1: already like open and shut case. But an Oregon romance
Speaker 1: novelist who once penned an essay titled how to Murder
Speaker 1: Your Husband, will face trial on Monday for allegedly shooting
Speaker 1: dead her spouse for a one point five million life
Speaker 1: insurance payout. Nancy Crampton Brophy. She even she even took
Speaker 1: his last name and hyphenated it, so she must have
Speaker 1: loved him a little bit. Now seventy one has pleaded
Speaker 1: not guilty to gunning down her husband of twenty five years,
Speaker 1: Daniel Brophy, and in Portland, Okay, this was in Daniel
Speaker 1: was found with gunshot wounds to his back chest and
Speaker 1: at his place of work, the Oregon Culinary Institute where
Speaker 1: he taught, shortly after arriving. So she told police that
Speaker 1: she was at the couple's home and the shooting happened,
Speaker 1: and then she was arrested months later after detective said
Speaker 1: she had been in the vicinity of the crime scene.
Speaker 1: It took them months to find that out. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: And then days after the shooting, she allegedly asked cops
Speaker 1: to provide her with a letter saying she wasn't a
Speaker 1: suspect in her husband's murder so she could collect on
Speaker 1: his life insurance policy worth Yeah, let's hold on a second,
Speaker 1: Hold on a second, Hold on a second. We don't
Speaker 1: know their financial situation. We don't know like what the
Speaker 1: bills need to be paid, you know, like was he
Speaker 1: in charge of the money? Was she like that? You know,
Speaker 1: like if she's just sitting there and all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: now her husband's dead and like the lights get turned off.
Speaker 1: Because we don't know what their agreement was. I don't
Speaker 1: think we should just assume that just because she was
Speaker 1: trying to get this life insurance done, because life moves on.
Speaker 1: They've been married twenty five years, like it is what
Speaker 1: it is. I mean, so I don't know if that
Speaker 1: should be that the damning evidence just because she's like
Speaker 1: trying to like pay some bills. I don't know. What
Speaker 1: would be One thing, if she was at a Mercedes
Speaker 1: dealership and she was like, oh, how much I gotta
Speaker 1: put down? Let me um, get me get this insurance
Speaker 1: money going, and we don't you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: it'd be different. But like, I don't think it's fair
Speaker 1: to this lady to, uh, you know, just say that. Well,
Speaker 1: first of all, I do I do agree that funerals
Speaker 1: are expensive. But the kicker is she told the police
Speaker 1: it was fort k, but it's actually one point five mil.
Speaker 1: So do you feel differently now either way? I mean,
Speaker 1: I just I still feel like either way, it's like okay, one,
Speaker 1: if she was in a if they were in an
Speaker 1: unhappy marriage and like just she's like, you know, like
Speaker 1: if you're an unhappy marriage and your husband shows up dead.
Speaker 1: I mean, how are you feeling about that? You're like, oh,
Speaker 1: it's terrible, but all right, I gotta move on with
Speaker 1: my life now, you know what I mean? I don't know.
Speaker 1: Is it is it a sign of you know, does
Speaker 1: it mean that she murdered him? You know? But she
Speaker 1: did lie about where she was, So the question is
Speaker 1: did she was she like, hey, guys, I know you're
Speaker 1: trying to solve my husband's murder. Would you just just
Speaker 1: signed that? I prewrote this letter for you, just signed
Speaker 1: it so I can get some money. So I agree
Speaker 1: with you that life goes on. But was this before
Speaker 1: or after she lied about being in the vicinity of
Speaker 1: the murder. Lets not forget she wrote a thing called
Speaker 1: how to Murder your Husband, and granted, I'll give her
Speaker 1: this much, she didn't say how to murder your husband
Speaker 1: and get away with it. It was just strictly how
Speaker 1: to murder your husband? Okay. So then my pushback on
Speaker 1: that is like, she wrote a book called how to
Speaker 1: murder your husband? So who do you think they think
Speaker 1: it's going to be? The suspect? So she could be
Speaker 1: sitting here just being like Damn, they're gonna think I
Speaker 1: did this, and so like yeah, you know, to be fair,
Speaker 1: she also wrote books such as Hell on the Heart
Speaker 1: and The Wrong Husband. That's what I'm saying. He could
Speaker 1: he could have been the inspiration for a lot of this.
Speaker 1: You know. The best part is she calls herself a
Speaker 1: romance novelist with these titles. But like, what's the facts
Speaker 1: of the case, Like, like you know, I don't know, Like,
Speaker 1: so she got a gun, it went shot her husband
Speaker 1: at work? Why would she do it like that? So
Speaker 1: like like how she wrote the book about how to
Speaker 1: murder your husband? Was it? What was it? I mean,
Speaker 1: usually you know it would be poison or I don't know.
Speaker 1: What I'm saying is in this book? Was she like
Speaker 1: a sloppy crime? Do you think that's just she's so?
Speaker 1: So she's an idiot, is what you're trying to say.
Speaker 1: She's saying she's an idiot. So she just got a
Speaker 1: gun and went and shot her husband in the back.
Speaker 1: Hey again, I'm not I'm not. What I'm saying is
Speaker 1: the things that you guys have said, like you would
Speaker 1: be terrible prosecutors. Well but no, but I agree with
Speaker 1: you that this it's not. It's obviously not cut dry,
Speaker 1: and I'm not saying that did it. But what I'm
Speaker 1: saying is, yes, we take take away the joke that
Speaker 1: she wrote that book, right, but she lied about where
Speaker 1: it is and she went while during all this, And
Speaker 1: I understand you need money, but it's I've never maybe
Speaker 1: it's happened a lot. I've never heard of someone being like, hey,
Speaker 1: can you guys just give me a letter so I
Speaker 1: can get my money while you're doing all this. And
Speaker 1: granted she may be in hard times, but we don't
Speaker 1: know that. We don't know either way. Really okay, real quick.
Speaker 1: So I also she doesn't look like somebody that's doing great.
Speaker 1: So you know, well, yeah she's in jail. Eric, Okay,
Speaker 1: So How to Murder Your Husband by Nancy Brophy. First
Speaker 1: of all, she lists up. First of all, this is
Speaker 1: less of an essay more of like a listical. As
Speaker 1: a romantic suspense writer, I spend a lot of time
Speaker 1: thinking about murder and consequently about police procedure. If the
Speaker 1: murder is supposed to set me free, I certainly don't
Speaker 1: want to spend any time in jail. And let me
Speaker 1: say clearly for the record, I don't like jumpsuits and
Speaker 1: oranges in my color. Okay. Then she lists out motives.
Speaker 1: One financial. This is big, of course, it is expensive.
Speaker 1: Do you really want to split your possessions? Or if
Speaker 1: you married for money, aren't you entitled to all of it?
Speaker 1: The drawback is the police aren't stupid. They are looking
Speaker 1: at you first, so you have to be organized, ruthless
Speaker 1: and clever. Husbands have disappeared from cruise ships before. Why
Speaker 1: not yours? My point? This is making this is all
Speaker 1: making my point. This is all making my point, Like,
Speaker 1: do you really think that someone who is this methodical
Speaker 1: about writing a book and what all this kind of
Speaker 1: stuff would just go to her husband's job and shoot
Speaker 1: him in the back. The problem is I've watched too
Speaker 1: many TV movies about this kind of stuff, So yes,
Speaker 1: I could see that happening, as she's already got her
Speaker 1: alibi for exactly why you said, why would I do that?
Speaker 1: But the other thing is I also see someone says, oh,
Speaker 1: she has a book, she looks like the perfect person.
Speaker 1: Let me go do this. I'll do this murder and
Speaker 1: it's gonna look like she did it. Do you think
Speaker 1: she was framed? But they have no other suspects well,
Speaker 1: they I think they're gonna they might find out that
Speaker 1: he is a cheating dog, lying pizza ship who knows
Speaker 1: right well she has, she leads, she writes for motives.
Speaker 1: Lying cheating bastard is one falling in love with someone
Speaker 1: else's one. You know, she's like, oh, you don't want
Speaker 1: to get stuck in a crime of passions and you
Speaker 1: got to clean up the blood and it's messy. Um.
Speaker 1: You know she has thought about it, but but maybe
Speaker 1: she was just driven to the limit. And because she
Speaker 1: also did lie. She said she was home, but she
Speaker 1: was in the vicinity of the murder, which is not
Speaker 1: lying is a kind of a big deal. And she
Speaker 1: lied about how much it was for okay, I get
Speaker 1: those two points, But like lying about being okay, So
Speaker 1: let's say you're being accused of from murder and you
Speaker 1: also happened to be in the area of that murder
Speaker 1: that you did not commit. So like, no, I straight
Speaker 1: up give if I know that I didn't do it,
Speaker 1: I straight up give all the act truthful facts, and
Speaker 1: really hope that it starts as well, because lying about
Speaker 1: it and having that found out is going to bring
Speaker 1: you ten times more towards the guild. I totally understand that.
Speaker 1: But what I'm saying is I understand why someone would
Speaker 1: lie in that in that situation. I understand why someone
Speaker 1: would like think like, you know, oh man, I was
Speaker 1: over there. I don't want that, you know, I can
Speaker 1: improve I wasn't at home. I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 1: What I'm saying is like, that's not enough for me.
Speaker 1: It's not enough for me that, like, you know, because
Speaker 1: I understand that the that reaction of being like, you know,
Speaker 1: you know, she could have just been going to this,
Speaker 1: you know, you know, she could have been going to store.
Speaker 1: But again, but again, she could have also done it.
Speaker 1: I just feel like if she did, she's like, that's
Speaker 1: just a stupid way to do it. No, no, you said,
Speaker 1: you clearly said she didn't do it. You're ready to
Speaker 1: pick her up from jail, like bail her out and
Speaker 1: get her out of jail. There's I believe in due process,
Speaker 1: is what I'm saying. I believe in the due process.
Speaker 1: You know, I believe in that. I mean, we need
Speaker 1: more of that in real society. We need we need
Speaker 1: twitter to be to have due process. Yeah, I agree
Speaker 1: with that. I'm glad Elon musk Is now the largest shareholder,
Speaker 1: and maybe he'll fix the algorithm. Maybe he'll make it
Speaker 1: so that there's less censorship. Maybe then bring you know,
Speaker 1: Kanye and Trump back, But I think they're a little
Speaker 1: too far gone. Trump already has truth Social, which I
Speaker 1: did sign up for, by the way, for pure entertainment purposes.
Speaker 1: I need to know what's happening on the other side,
Speaker 1: you know, now, we should all want to see what's
Speaker 1: happening on the other side for sure. Yeah. Thence when
Speaker 1: you know what areas of the world to avoid, because
Speaker 1: that's where the pitchforks are. Yeah. Yeah, keep your enemies close,
Speaker 1: keep your friends close, and your enemies closer. They say, well, yeah,
Speaker 1: and this is why I keep talking about my ex.
Speaker 1: Just keep it all right, let's move on. Speaking of XS,
Speaker 1: Netflix and Sony halt Will Smith. I don't know why
Speaker 1: I said that, Like I used to date Will Smith,
Speaker 1: but they halt Will Smith projects in the aftermath of
Speaker 1: the infamous Chris Rock slap. Wait, bring me up to speed.
Speaker 1: What happened with Chris Rock? Something I didn't hear about this,
Speaker 1: So I'm honestly, I'm tired of hearing about this. I'm
Speaker 1: over and I don't care anymore. No one cares anymore.
Speaker 1: Let's wait for the next new Hollywood drama. This one
Speaker 1: is tired. Yeah, I think people don't. I don't think
Speaker 1: people care anymore, especially liberals, because it points out their hypocrisy.
Speaker 1: So they don't want to see their hypocrisy and they
Speaker 1: don't want to They don't want to deal with it anymore.
Speaker 1: They don't want to deal with how like, you know,
Speaker 1: Hollywood just kind of like celebrated this guy right after
Speaker 1: he did something some toxic masculinity he did, and then
Speaker 1: like everybody wants to be like, oh, let's just move
Speaker 1: past this, and let's just move past it, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. So, yeah, I'm not surprised that people
Speaker 1: are like sick of hearing about it, sick of like
Speaker 1: wanted to deal with it. Well, what do you think
Speaker 1: is the appropriate punishment? Well, I think he's getting punished
Speaker 1: the way he should get punished. I think how anybody
Speaker 1: did assault someone should get punished, no matter what their
Speaker 1: status is in the world, they should get punished. And like,
Speaker 1: if you're like Halton Projects, because if you're on set
Speaker 1: with Will Smith, you're gonna be like, well, if he
Speaker 1: gets upset is you're gonna slap me, And what is
Speaker 1: the response going to be, Well, he would never do
Speaker 1: that on set. He can't say that anymore. He don't
Speaker 1: get the benefit of the doubt. There's no more benefit
Speaker 1: of the doubt for you. You Yeah, you might slap
Speaker 1: somebody on set because you did it in a place
Speaker 1: where no one in the world would ever think you
Speaker 1: would do it. So now he does not get the
Speaker 1: benefit of the doubt. My fear is that, Yeah, I
Speaker 1: completely agree with you. My fear is that, or my
Speaker 1: thought is that these aren't being delayed because we want to.
Speaker 1: You know, he didn't he did something wrong, and we
Speaker 1: agree with it because a lot of these people are
Speaker 1: the same people that stood up when he you know,
Speaker 1: when he won his award and gave him a standing ovation.
Speaker 1: I think this is more of a pr thing. Hey,
Speaker 1: let's lay low, we have this, we're doing the right thing,
Speaker 1: and then we'll bring back when it's when it's time.
Speaker 1: Because it's all optics. It's all optics, because that's what
Speaker 1: Hollywood is. Hollywood is just an image based place. They
Speaker 1: don't they don't come across as people they really care
Speaker 1: about morals or integrity or anything like that. It's just
Speaker 1: a place that just cares about what do people think?
Speaker 1: And let's let's deal with that and then when once
Speaker 1: this blows over and then we'll just be they'll be
Speaker 1: back with the projects and it'll be fine, right because
Speaker 1: they're not actually canceling the projects, they're just posing them.
Speaker 1: The other thing is that, like, I'm sorry, but isn't
Speaker 1: Hollywood just a microcosm for the rest of the world.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Is the finance industry really moral and filled
Speaker 1: with integrity? Like is the big pharma industry really moral
Speaker 1: and filled with integrity? Like? No, everyone acts like this.
Speaker 1: It's not just Hollywood. We just uh see this as
Speaker 1: because everyone is so public. Like I'm sure we couldn't
Speaker 1: name the first like top ten employees at Fighter you
Speaker 1: know that one Fighter guy walk up and slap the other. No,
Speaker 1: And that's the point, right, It's like there's so much
Speaker 1: glitz and glamor around this, and people care about celebrity,
Speaker 1: but no one cares about executives that you know, A
Speaker 1: T and T. Yeah, So I don't know. I mean,
Speaker 1: like I say, it is what it is hot topic
Speaker 1: right now and I totally get it. And they and
Speaker 1: and they and you know that they wanted to go
Speaker 1: away so they could be like, all right and we're back.
Speaker 1: Well just because like Louis, you know, Louis c K
Speaker 1: just want to gram me so things can change. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean. The other thing is like woke white women
Speaker 1: don't know how to weigh in on this argument. Well,
Speaker 1: they have no they have no ground to stand on.
Speaker 1: When you look at the polls, it was something like
Speaker 1: fifty women at first were supporting Will Smith. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: because he's cute, Yeah exactly, but this is yeah, this
Speaker 1: is the problems. People don't know how they and anyone. Literally,
Speaker 1: when I see comments on my Instagram posts that are like,
Speaker 1: you know, Chris Rock was out of line, that joke was,
Speaker 1: I'm like, shut up. I don't think people feel that
Speaker 1: way anymore. You know, I don't think they I don't
Speaker 1: think people really feel that way. I think people feel
Speaker 1: like that was an overreaction, and I'm actually glad that
Speaker 1: the silver lining of this happening is now I think
Speaker 1: people are looking at themselves and going, oh, we kind
Speaker 1: of are overreacting to comedy because if he hadn't have
Speaker 1: slapped him, okay, the next day, comics would have been
Speaker 1: dragged again. It would have been like, oh, she has
Speaker 1: alopecia and comics are going to and it would have
Speaker 1: been another attack on comics. He did that, and it
Speaker 1: pointed out how ridiculous it is to be this upset
Speaker 1: at a at a at a you know, but nothing joke.
Speaker 1: But if if he hadn't slapped him, no one would
Speaker 1: have even remember the joke. I think I would have
Speaker 1: been right, right right, That's that's what it would have
Speaker 1: been like. It would have supported this even more in
Speaker 1: this attack on on comedy. It would have just keep that,
Speaker 1: kept it going and going. It would have been like
Speaker 1: even more ridiculous, people being like, oh, I can't believe
Speaker 1: they did you know this this you know, this innocuous
Speaker 1: dad joke, a thirty year old reference dad joke, and
Speaker 1: and oh my god, you know who. I feel bad
Speaker 1: for Demi Moore because apparently being compared to Demi Moore
Speaker 1: is like the worst thing you could call someone, and
Speaker 1: you know, then they're talking about you know, so we're like, oh,
Speaker 1: she's bald, like you know, you know what I mean? Like,
Speaker 1: what's your excuse for being bald? You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: You know, you know, you know you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Like you're bald and it's like, you know, bald man,
Speaker 1: bald man. Short men get talked about all the time
Speaker 1: at nauseum. You know. That's it's like this's looked at,
Speaker 1: is this thing and like, you know, it's just one
Speaker 1: of these jokes, you know what I mean. So it's
Speaker 1: like should lea, should leah? She comes slap me now
Speaker 1: for your honor? You know what I'm saying. It's like,
Speaker 1: it's just say the word dri It's just ridiculous, It's
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, It's just ridiculous. I think people are
Speaker 1: aware of it now. I think people are aware of like,
Speaker 1: how what an overrea action that was to an innocuous joke.
Speaker 1: And if we're gonna react like that to a joke
Speaker 1: like that, then what is left for comedy? And I
Speaker 1: think there's been a reinvigoration of comedy, right. I think
Speaker 1: people like I had shows in San Antonio and I
Speaker 1: felt like the people are like really there for comedy now.
Speaker 1: That's why Chris Rocks Towards sold out because people are like, yeah,
Speaker 1: we want to hear what you have to say now.
Speaker 1: And I think people are I think we've been slapped
Speaker 1: out of this kind of like woke hase of of overcorrection,
Speaker 1: over sensitivity, and I mean, you know, Will Smith did that.
Speaker 1: I think he slapped America out of this nonsense of
Speaker 1: attacking comedy. It's a good point, and you give I mean, listen,
Speaker 1: Ricky Gervais has been saying this for a long time.
Speaker 1: He's been saying, Okay, if you want to say I'm
Speaker 1: offended by a joke, didn't say it. I feel like
Speaker 1: I feel, But don't say that joke is offensive because
Speaker 1: it doesn't. It's not for everybody. To me is what's
Speaker 1: missing from everyone's tweets to me. That's the real you know,
Speaker 1: instead of the me too movement, we need to start
Speaker 1: the to me movement, you know what I mean. So
Speaker 1: it's like, you know, so someone goes, oh my god,
Speaker 1: he said that, and he is racist for saying that,
Speaker 1: and then you need to add the words to me.
Speaker 1: Then the rest of us can go, Okay, that's just
Speaker 1: your opinion, the same way you're allowed to have your opinion,
Speaker 1: but it's not facts. It's just your opinion. Right. It's
Speaker 1: the same way people used to add in bed to
Speaker 1: fortune cookies, right exactly. It's the This is the R. S.
Speaker 1: T L N. And e of of of Wheel of
Speaker 1: Fortune where they just gave you those because from now on,
Speaker 1: Tweet should always say to me at the end, that's
Speaker 1: that's how I feel about it. And so so it's
Speaker 1: like it's fun. It's like you know when somebody like
Speaker 1: because you know what it's about premise. So when you're talking,
Speaker 1: if you're talking to someone about the Chris Rock situation,
Speaker 1: you have to ask them where do you stand? What
Speaker 1: do you feel? So if a person says, well, I
Speaker 1: feel he was being mean spirited and hateful and he
Speaker 1: was trying to hurt them. If that's your premise, then
Speaker 1: I know why you're arguing this. Then you also have
Speaker 1: to accept my premise that it was just an innocuous
Speaker 1: fun dad joke, that he was making poking fun because
Speaker 1: that's his job at the oscars. If you accept that premise,
Speaker 1: if you can accept that premise too, then why are
Speaker 1: we fighting? Then there's no point we could just agree
Speaker 1: to disagree because I because because I'm saying, of all
Speaker 1: the things, if he is a mean spirited, terrible person
Speaker 1: that was trying to hurt them, of all the information
Speaker 1: that is known about the Smiths, you mean to tell
Speaker 1: me that a g I Jane joke is the worst
Speaker 1: he could have done as a means, mean spirited person.
Speaker 1: I find that to be idiotic. Can we be real?
Speaker 1: The joke was funny, like they could have done so
Speaker 1: much better. I'm even surprised at that made the cutting,
Speaker 1: Like you know what I mean that that it didn't
Speaker 1: get cut. I don't think that that was like first
Speaker 1: of all, like I said, I don't think that was
Speaker 1: even a part of it. I think he just said
Speaker 1: that in a moment. I think he just said it
Speaker 1: in a moment and he thought, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: he thought it was gonna be like fun. And then
Speaker 1: that's why the crowd had a weird read. The crowd
Speaker 1: was like, ah, it was one of those like it's
Speaker 1: a dad joke. It was like Chris rock Win, pull
Speaker 1: up my finger, Jada, you know what I mean, That's
Speaker 1: exactly what that joke was. And so so that's even
Speaker 1: more reason to be like, wow, what overreaction to a
Speaker 1: comedy to a joke. But it was also just such
Speaker 1: a dated joke, you know, like why don't you just
Speaker 1: call her the rock like more? Because that would have
Speaker 1: been more insulting. I mean, that's what I'm saying again
Speaker 1: he in his mind was like, well, this is fun thing,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And it's like, you know
Speaker 1: what's really stupid about it is if there's a woman
Speaker 1: dealing with alopecia and she's bald and she's feeling terrible
Speaker 1: about herself, someone could say to her, you know, you
Speaker 1: should be like g I Jane and it would be
Speaker 1: empowering and uplifting. So it's all about intent, it's all
Speaker 1: about context. And again, this was a huge overreaction. And
Speaker 1: I think people saw themselves in Will Smith. Because if
Speaker 1: Will Smith this beacon of you know, of hope and
Speaker 1: and and a person that has transcended race and wealth
Speaker 1: and all this thing in this country, and you can
Speaker 1: see someone like that have such a stupid overreaction, I
Speaker 1: think everyone else saw themselves in that too. And and
Speaker 1: there's and I think the smart people are going, oh,
Speaker 1: I need to stop. I need to like check myself
Speaker 1: about what I think is an insult. Yeah, we need
Speaker 1: to do wellness. Check on Demi Moore, she's going through this.
Speaker 1: You know she's having a tough time right now. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she's she's having a tough week. You want to tie
Speaker 1: these things together, all these people are the people in Colorado.
Speaker 1: They're looking out their windows and they're like, oh, did
Speaker 1: you see what? He just made a joke that he
Speaker 1: shouldn't have made, you know what. And they're calling in
Speaker 1: their reporting that it was a joke, that that could
Speaker 1: have been offended, Like yeah, yeah, yes, it's exactly. It's
Speaker 1: like parents calling about the kids, like it's just like again,
Speaker 1: it's you make a joke, but it's actually very it's
Speaker 1: actually very true. Like we we are a society of overreaction,
Speaker 1: over correction, you know. Uh, And that's you know, there's
Speaker 1: no there's no nuanced common sense, there's no context, there's
Speaker 1: no it's just this overreaction. It's and it's a byproduct
Speaker 1: of the Internet. It's a byproduct of of having to
Speaker 1: make all your points in a hundred and forty characters.
Speaker 1: And on that note, we're going to take a break
Speaker 1: because that was offensive to me. We'll be right back. Yea,
Speaker 1: hello everyone, and welcome back to Real Time Crime. I'm
Speaker 1: your host, Lee Lamar. I have with me my friends
Speaker 1: Dmitri and Eric Griffin, and we are about to get
Speaker 1: into our major topic for today, which is the Sacramento shooting.
Speaker 1: I'm sure a lot of you have heard about it already,
Speaker 1: but for those of you who haven't, what happened was
Speaker 1: six people, three women, three men were killed and twelve
Speaker 1: others suffered varying degrees of injuries in a mass shooting
Speaker 1: in an area of downtown Sacramento, California, bustling with nightlife.
Speaker 1: More than one hundred shots were fired early Sunday as
Speaker 1: hundreds lined the streets leaving clubs and bars in downtown Sacramento.
Speaker 1: Investigators believe multiple shooters open fire just steps from the
Speaker 1: capital in the wake of a large fight after last
Speaker 1: call early Sunday. So one person has been arrested in
Speaker 1: connection with the shooting on Monday. As of Tuesday, April five,
Speaker 1: the older brother of the first suspect in the deadly
Speaker 1: Sacramento mass shootings was also arrested. Smiley Martin, the twenty
Speaker 1: seven year old brother of Dondre Martin, was busted in
Speaker 1: the hospital bed on charges included being in possession of
Speaker 1: a machine gun Okay. While both Martin brothers have been
Speaker 1: named as suspects, neither has been charged with homicide. There
Speaker 1: were multiple shooters involved and more arrests are expected, so
Speaker 1: apparently the investigation is highly complex, involving many witnesses, videos
Speaker 1: of numerous types, and significant physical evidence. The latest arrest
Speaker 1: came after SWAT officers and detective served search warrants at
Speaker 1: three residences seizing a handgun. Okay, so it's interesting that
Speaker 1: this happened late at night and apparently there was an argument,
Speaker 1: a fight that broke out before it. Do we think
Speaker 1: that the mass shooting stemmed from the fight? What do
Speaker 1: we think this is like gang activity? What do we
Speaker 1: think happened here? And also I'm going to share my
Speaker 1: screen again because I'll just never understand people. But one
Speaker 1: of the brothers, Dendre Martin, posted on Facebook shaking my head,
Speaker 1: I'm hit. What do you mean? He posted that he
Speaker 1: got hit during like during the shootings. Hit. Well, I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't even know what to think about any of this.
Speaker 1: And then I just think it's like, you know, this
Speaker 1: is just like some people that made some very terrible
Speaker 1: choices and law enforcement has stepped in and and you know,
Speaker 1: they got arrested. You know. Like the thing that would
Speaker 1: be bug me more about this is if if it
Speaker 1: was like there was a shooting and there's no suspects
Speaker 1: and these people are at large, no this was like
Speaker 1: swift justice. I mean, that's what we need. I mean,
Speaker 1: the swift justice needs to be the thing that has
Speaker 1: talked about the most, because that's the deterrent. You know,
Speaker 1: there's plenty of people that have guns, and there's plenty
Speaker 1: of people that you know, don't have anger management issues.
Speaker 1: There's gang violence, and there's all this stuff, But the
Speaker 1: deterrent has to be that the law enforcement is going
Speaker 1: to step in and you're not going to get away
Speaker 1: with it. And that's what's happening here. But why do
Speaker 1: you think it's okay for people to just have machine guns? Civilians? Listen?
Speaker 1: That's that's like getting into the idea of gun control
Speaker 1: and all that kind of stuff. That's not going to
Speaker 1: stop people from doing bad things, you know, I mean,
Speaker 1: I can you know, it's like the thing to me,
Speaker 1: like I I keep you know, I actually talking. I
Speaker 1: have material about this, you know, because you know, the
Speaker 1: issue to me is not the right and the left
Speaker 1: fighting about guns. The issue should be the right and
Speaker 1: the left talking to gun companies about upgrading their technology,
Speaker 1: Like why are we still using why are we still
Speaker 1: shooting pieces of metal at people with lethal force? Why
Speaker 1: is that the technology? Like I call on Elon Musk
Speaker 1: to invent an electric gun like he invented the electric car.
Speaker 1: Like like, where is the technology that is non lethal
Speaker 1: that can stop people and you know, put people down, Like,
Speaker 1: where is the like we have an advanced to the
Speaker 1: point where we're still using little pieces of metal to
Speaker 1: shoot at people Like that, to me is the issue
Speaker 1: not who has them not you know, you know all
Speaker 1: that and like taking it away from people who are
Speaker 1: obviously knows how to handle a gun and they're safe
Speaker 1: with a gun. Uh, you know the idea of that,
Speaker 1: Like we need to find make sure people are mentally stable,
Speaker 1: because that's fluid that changes over time. There's plenty of
Speaker 1: people who are very mentally stable and then they just
Speaker 1: crack and they were great with guns and now they
Speaker 1: have a bunch of guns and they went crazy. I
Speaker 1: mean that, you know. We can go on and on
Speaker 1: and on about should we have guns and should we
Speaker 1: not have guns. The question we should be asking is
Speaker 1: why is the technology still at that level? Just in
Speaker 1: the same way that we should have had electric cars
Speaker 1: thirty years ago. You know, we should have had them
Speaker 1: in thirty years weal because the oil companies put the
Speaker 1: kai Bosh On that it's the same thing with this.
Speaker 1: I'm sure that there's better technology out there, but the
Speaker 1: gun companies are making so much money and no one
Speaker 1: ever blames them, No one talks about them. It's always
Speaker 1: about like, oh, should you know? It's always about the
Speaker 1: people that have the guns as opposed to like the
Speaker 1: people that make them. So we could have Elon developed
Speaker 1: a long range taser, you know, you where it shoots
Speaker 1: out some sort of electric current that destabilizes someone versus right, Like,
Speaker 1: I think that's the sort of technology. But I think
Speaker 1: I think the issue is and also I do think
Speaker 1: the government and the army has all types of weapons
Speaker 1: like this. The public just doesn't have access to them
Speaker 1: or knowledge of them. Don't you think who knows? That's
Speaker 1: my question. That's the question I'm putting out there. The
Speaker 1: question I'm raising is why is the technology still a
Speaker 1: hundred fifty years old? You know? That's what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: even though the guns are saying they've made the guns
Speaker 1: themselves better and whatever, but it's still the same technology.
Speaker 1: It's basically a fancy slingshot, like you know what I mean, Like,
Speaker 1: we're still shooting objects at each other to penetrate the
Speaker 1: body with lethal force. Again, why is that still the
Speaker 1: technology that we're using? That should be the question. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, I think also the bigger issue is did
Speaker 1: they just get into a fight in question mark over
Speaker 1: what and they just all happen to have guns and
Speaker 1: it just turned into a shooting spree or was this
Speaker 1: some sort of planned altercation or is this some sort
Speaker 1: of gang fight where there are a lot of other
Speaker 1: players at play that are just not the people that
Speaker 1: were there shooting guns. And I think that that is
Speaker 1: now what's making the case so complex is because they're
Speaker 1: trying to figure out what the fight was about, who
Speaker 1: was involved, and if there's actually a larger issue at play,
Speaker 1: well that's the that's what the law enforcement is doing
Speaker 1: in their investigation, trying to find motive, to find out
Speaker 1: you know why, I mean, because then it would be
Speaker 1: the motively it leads to like how they can be charged.
Speaker 1: You know, it's going to be first degree murder? Is
Speaker 1: this going to be whatever? I mean, you know, the
Speaker 1: law is very complex. It's way way more complex than
Speaker 1: it is on the internet or on TV. So you know, again,
Speaker 1: get wrapped up in an hour, Yeah, I know, but
Speaker 1: I'm really glad that. You know, let's let's give kudos
Speaker 1: to law enforcement for moving swiftly, acting quick, you know,
Speaker 1: acting on this and they have people in custody, and
Speaker 1: you know that's usually that's usually the dominoes for getting
Speaker 1: everyone else, you know, because no one's gonna sit here
Speaker 1: and be like, you know, I'm faced with this crime
Speaker 1: on my own. I think it's gonna be a situation
Speaker 1: where it's like, well, what just me? It was him? Him? Him?
Speaker 1: Think they're going to wrap people out? Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1: How this is how it happens if you're face if
Speaker 1: you're faced with murder, if you're faced with twenty five
Speaker 1: to life, you know. And uh, you know, one guy
Speaker 1: is doing stick on Facebook, so I don't know if
Speaker 1: he's he's taking it too seriously yet, Yeah, right, but
Speaker 1: that but that shows somebody that is for sure going
Speaker 1: to uh you know, look, I think the justice is
Speaker 1: gonna be served, you know, hopefully, but from the sounds
Speaker 1: of it right now, I think we should applaud the
Speaker 1: law enforcement for you know, acting swiftly and getting and
Speaker 1: having people in custody. So I mean, we could sit
Speaker 1: here on this podcast and talk about why they did
Speaker 1: it and is there something more is there's some conspiracy
Speaker 1: and all that kind of stuff. I get it, I'm saying,
Speaker 1: but I'm saying, you know, I don't know all those
Speaker 1: kinds whatever that is. What you know, it's just because
Speaker 1: like people have done dumber things for less, you know,
Speaker 1: So like these people have terrible aim like I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: a hundred shots fired like did they did? Are? And
Speaker 1: none of these six people are either of the opposing team,
Speaker 1: then you you kind of question the motive. Right then
Speaker 1: it's just like, what what's the motive here? Right? I
Speaker 1: don't know, Well, the thing is like something that we're
Speaker 1: trying to make sense of, something of that doesn't make sense.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, not not everything has to make sense,
Speaker 1: but not everything has to Harry, we don't make sense.
Speaker 1: Not everything has to have a little motive that ties
Speaker 1: up into a little bow. Ah, this is why they
Speaker 1: did this. They these could just be some some dumb
Speaker 1: some dumb people that made dumb choices and now they're
Speaker 1: living with their consequences. Here's here's here's the question. And
Speaker 1: I'm not get political, you know, I don't really want
Speaker 1: to do that. But the point is there are states
Speaker 1: right now that are making it easier to get guns right.
Speaker 1: And I know people bring up, oh, well you don't.
Speaker 1: You know, you need a license to to get for
Speaker 1: a hunting license, but you don't need one to own
Speaker 1: a gun. So there are states that are making easier
Speaker 1: to get guns right. But and people are going, well whatever,
Speaker 1: But then, like we said before, not to go back
Speaker 1: to this again, but we're so focused on you know what,
Speaker 1: there's a new law about what age kids can be
Speaker 1: alone or do something outside by themselves, like golf guys, Like,
Speaker 1: look at what you're doing here. You're you're you're brushing
Speaker 1: off and like you said, Eric, is because of the money, right,
Speaker 1: you're brushing off rules about guns and and hey, listen,
Speaker 1: add that maturity level to buying a gun. Put that
Speaker 1: as one of the levels as to whether someone can
Speaker 1: buy a gun, as opposed to we're making a law
Speaker 1: as to the age that people can kids can play outside.
Speaker 1: Because a lot of people are calling in, but let
Speaker 1: me push back on this. Okay, So the people that
Speaker 1: are committing crimes and doing things, are you saying that
Speaker 1: these are people that are in states that got guns legally? No, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: I'm not saying so that. But but that's but but
Speaker 1: that's the you're inferring that, And what I'm saying to
Speaker 1: you is the pushback on that is, hey, I'm a
Speaker 1: regular citizen and criminals can get guns willie nilly, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't think. But then but then then they shouldn't
Speaker 1: be brought up in the same context. So maybe what
Speaker 1: I should have said was I think as far as
Speaker 1: gun technology, they should be focusing on that, which is
Speaker 1: what you said. They should be focusing on that because
Speaker 1: there are people that are not mature enough to have
Speaker 1: what they're being given or what they're getting access to,
Speaker 1: or what we're giving them, what we're putting out there.
Speaker 1: But but it's so weird how we want like we're like,
Speaker 1: we're we're wondering why criminals act like criminals, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean? Like it's like, why aren't criminals making sense? What?
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Like, that's the that's the
Speaker 1: thought process when you know, like's like, I don't care
Speaker 1: that they're if there's a state that's allowing people to
Speaker 1: get guns, they were allowing that because criminals can get guns,
Speaker 1: and then we're stopping regular people from getting guns. Now, Listen,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of gun related accidents that happen because
Speaker 1: people just aren't prepared. Like I say, like you have
Speaker 1: to take a driving test to get a to get
Speaker 1: a license. You know, you have to go down to
Speaker 1: the d m V, get in a car with somebody
Speaker 1: who's got a clipboard, and you have to prove that
Speaker 1: you can drive a car okay, because it's dangerous because
Speaker 1: if you're on the street, you could actually hurt someone,
Speaker 1: hurt yourself, hurt someone else. That's what we need to
Speaker 1: add to the gun process. You know, you need to
Speaker 1: have insurance. You should you have to have insurance to
Speaker 1: have a gun. You should have to have take a
Speaker 1: test to have a gun. You should have to prove
Speaker 1: that you know how to handle a gun before they
Speaker 1: give you a gun. I mean, these are the things
Speaker 1: we need to be talking about, you know, other than
Speaker 1: just like hey take guns away or why are they
Speaker 1: allowing people to get guns? I mean, I mean, it
Speaker 1: is what it is. I mean, it's you know, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. You know you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But it's like, but my main point about in the
Speaker 1: reference to this discussion is stop. We need to stop
Speaker 1: trying to have rules for criminals and wonder why they're
Speaker 1: breaking these rules and wonder why they're doing what they're
Speaker 1: doing or how why they're not breaking rules and they're
Speaker 1: not criminals. Yeah, we need to have the rules in place,
Speaker 1: but yes, I get that, but it's what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: We're we're hoping that they have better intentions or you know,
Speaker 1: it's like why did you know? It's like you know
Speaker 1: it is what it is. You know, It's like there's
Speaker 1: plenty of like the person you shouldn't be worried about
Speaker 1: is not the gun nut is not the person you
Speaker 1: should be worried about. I don't know if you've ever
Speaker 1: met a gun nut or somebody that's super into guns,
Speaker 1: like there you know, and they're like they're super into safety.
Speaker 1: Like a gun nut is somebody that's like they know
Speaker 1: everything about the gun. They got it locked up in
Speaker 1: their little cabin and they're like, oh, let me show
Speaker 1: you this gun. This is like a are blah blah blah,
Speaker 1: and they're like that, and that's you know, those aren't
Speaker 1: like that person also could go crazy, but that has
Speaker 1: nothing to do with them having access to guns. That
Speaker 1: has to do more about like what's going on with
Speaker 1: people's mental health, what's going on in like you know, society,
Speaker 1: what's going on, and you know, well, of the two
Speaker 1: guys I dated who owned guns, one of them was
Speaker 1: a gun nut and he has it locked in a
Speaker 1: case where you need to use your fingerprint to open
Speaker 1: the case, which I actually liked because it made me
Speaker 1: feel safer. But then the other guy, we'll just say
Speaker 1: he did pick me up and only let me know
Speaker 1: that he was on shrooms while driving halfway to the movies,
Speaker 1: and then on the way home showed me both of
Speaker 1: his guns in the car. He was like, check the
Speaker 1: glove compartment. Then I opened. I was like ah, and
Speaker 1: then he was like check the center console and I
Speaker 1: was like ah, and then I moved because I was
Speaker 1: scared he knew where I lived. Anyway, I'm fine, yeah,
Speaker 1: but that's somebody that's like, you know, yeah, I went
Speaker 1: on a date with the Yeah, Eric's like bad choices.
Speaker 1: Then I'm like, I went on a date with a
Speaker 1: DJ and U And it's so funny because I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: he seemed nice, and then I was like, he did
Speaker 1: give me drugs at the end of the date, but
Speaker 1: there were shrooms, So, you know, just another l a
Speaker 1: day in the books. We did go for a hike
Speaker 1: as well, if you were curious, you and your hikes.
Speaker 1: You know, I gotta get I gotta get a two
Speaker 1: for a day and workout like it think better than
Speaker 1: dating someone at the gym, are going to the gym together.
Speaker 1: So I'll give you that. I you know what I
Speaker 1: hate workout couples, you know what i mean. You know
Speaker 1: those couples that are just like they're always in sweatsuits
Speaker 1: and you see them that they're walking and they're like,
Speaker 1: hey guys, and they're like, what are you guys doing?
Speaker 1: You're just like cof you know what i mean. They
Speaker 1: have their nalgeans. You're like, yeah, they're just a plastic
Speaker 1: water bottle like the rest of us. You know, they're
Speaker 1: always on their bike. You know, their their honeymoon was
Speaker 1: like a twenty six mile marathon. Like one of those
Speaker 1: type of couples. I'm just like, get away from me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you and your abs, get the out of here. Yeah exactly.
Speaker 1: Now I'm the opposite. I'm like when my wife's like
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go for a run, I'm like, okay, you go,
Speaker 1: and then when you come back, I'll go like, I
Speaker 1: don't know, we don't need to be running next to
Speaker 1: each other. Yeah, well do you You don't sleep next
Speaker 1: to each other either, Oh, are you supposed to do that? Yeah,
Speaker 1: this would be a problem to me. Say that feels better,
Speaker 1: doesn't it, because you know what it is is you
Speaker 1: taking accountability of your own opinion. That's the thing about it.
Speaker 1: Take accountability for your opinion. Make it yours, don't make
Speaker 1: it something that you need people to say a men to. Well,
Speaker 1: and that's it. Everybody judges. So if I had said that, right,
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't like to go jogging at the
Speaker 1: same time like my wife and I don't like to
Speaker 1: run together someone. But well, that's not a healthy relationship
Speaker 1: to your exactly, thank you, Because then what people do
Speaker 1: is go, oh, this person isn't in a healthy relationship.
Speaker 1: They don't know the context, they don't know the nuance,
Speaker 1: they don't know the details of your relationship. They just
Speaker 1: made a statement and they want to make it true.
Speaker 1: It's like you, you know, that's what i'd say to that,
Speaker 1: and that and that's how and I think that that's how.
Speaker 1: I think the slap is waking us up to that fact.
Speaker 1: To you. Yeah, and ladies and gentlemen, that's the podcast today. Eric,
Speaker 1: where can we find you on the internet, Like they're
Speaker 1: not the weird stuff, just social Yeah, we don't want
Speaker 1: to know where the sex tapes are, just you know,
Speaker 1: your content whatever. But you can find me at you know,
Speaker 1: Eric Griffin dot com. You know what I mean, that's
Speaker 1: that's Eric with k people. Yeah, that this I feel
Speaker 1: about Leyah. Sometimes the amount of times Eric has called
Speaker 1: me a nightmare is I mean, I can't even count.
Speaker 1: I don't. I mean, I can't count that high. But
Speaker 1: you can find me at Eric Griffin r I K
Speaker 1: G R I F F I N at Eric Griffin.
Speaker 1: And then I'm also on Twitch a lot, Eric Griffin Gaming,
Speaker 1: and you know, I'm like on Twitch, I'm sorrying on Twitter,
Speaker 1: Instagram is at Eric Griffin, Snapchat at Eric Griffin. I'm
Speaker 1: twitching just thinking about watching you on Twitch. Yeah, well
Speaker 1: you can come watch me on Twitch. You know what
Speaker 1: I mean. I'm good, Thank you so much. Sounds really
Speaker 1: fun to you. Now. Now she's gonna be a nightmare
Speaker 1: with this, She's what I'm saying. You know, it's just
Speaker 1: this is this is oh my god, you get it.
Speaker 1: It's when you get any toy. Yeah, this is why
Speaker 1: we she can't have nice things. Wait to you. You're
Speaker 1: supposed to be on my team? Yes, right, Um, this
Speaker 1: is why she can't have nice boyfriends. People. You can
Speaker 1: find me on the internet at Leo lamar l e
Speaker 1: h l A M A r R and on TikTok
Speaker 1: with five ours again. We don't know why, it's just
Speaker 1: like that sometimes Twitter lamar five h Yeah. And um,
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