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Speaker 1: Crime. Hello everyone, and welcome back to Real Time Crime.

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Speaker 1: I'm your host le Lamar, and I have with me

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Speaker 1: today my friend sometimes Dmitri. Hello Dmitri. I want it

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Speaker 1: clear that you said my friend sometimes have the title,

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Speaker 1: not my sometimes friends. So at least we got that

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Speaker 1: out of the the way. That's official. Well, when you think

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Speaker 1: about it that way, I mean, I guess you are

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Speaker 1: sometimes my friends. Oh, I appreciate that too. I'll take it.

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Speaker 1: Hello and you guys. Today we're going to be discussing

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Speaker 1: a lot of hot topics. You already know how hot

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Speaker 1: they are. One is and it's weird for me to

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Speaker 1: say hot before I read this one, but Colorado passing

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Speaker 1: a law about children playing outside alone based on maturity level.

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Speaker 1: L O L. Sony and Netflix halting Will Smith projects

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Speaker 1: yea A, an author of How to Murder Your Husband,

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Speaker 1: goes to trial for allegedly killing her husband, and then,

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Speaker 1: of course the case that everyone's talking about, the Sacramento shooting,

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Speaker 1: and joining us today, I have with me one of

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Speaker 1: my favorite human beings. He's a stand up comedian. You

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Speaker 1: know him from work on Holics, from I'm Dying up here,

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Speaker 1: Mike and Dave need wedding dates from Riffin with Griffin.

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Speaker 1: He's a star, he's my friend, He's hilarious. Eric Griffin

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Speaker 1: go on, I'm going to his wedding for sure. Confirmed?

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Speaker 1: Oh is it? I think I think it is. I

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Speaker 1: went on a date with his fiance last night. And think,

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Speaker 1: by the way, Eric, thanks for dinner. Yeah, that's how

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Speaker 1: you get into invited to a wedding. You go out

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Speaker 1: with the with the significant other alone when you get it.

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Speaker 1: I just had to get them in a a in

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Speaker 1: a in a group chat and just know Jewish girls unite,

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Speaker 1: and then now they were like besties. Yeah. And then

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Speaker 1: we face timed him and Eric was like, have my

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Speaker 1: back and I was like, sorry, I met Rachel and

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Speaker 1: now I got Rachel's back. So by Eric. Also, before

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Speaker 1: we talk about me and Eric for a second, I

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Speaker 1: just want to address a new Hollywood crime that's come out.

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Speaker 1: It's called my spray tan. Yeah, okay, so if you

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Speaker 1: can't see it, uh, Leah has those your finger There

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Speaker 1: will be a clip of this. Would you say, are

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Speaker 1: those your fingerprints? Yes, you tanned with somebody. Here's the

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Speaker 1: do you guys think I did it? I mean called

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Speaker 1: bronze handed. Yeah, I have your first time doing it.

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Speaker 1: Um no, this is the first time I had someone

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Speaker 1: else do it for me. And let me say mistake.

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Speaker 1: Letting someone else see my naked body without receiving a

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Speaker 1: compliment was so odd. We didn't even have sex. It

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Speaker 1: was like what am I paying for? Anyway? Um, welcome

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Speaker 1: back to Okay, Eric, Are you so glad you agreed

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Speaker 1: to do this? Oh my god, this is early in

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Speaker 1: the morning to even think about your pale, pink naked body.

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Speaker 1: And and the best part, let me just tell you this.

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Speaker 1: When I was drying myself off after I looked in

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Speaker 1: the mirror and I was like, damn, I look so good.

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Speaker 1: And I looked at myself in the backside and I

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Speaker 1: just like white down the cray Like, I can't have

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Speaker 1: Good morning. So this is what we do here, We

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Speaker 1: go through crimes and connect dots. So you were out

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Speaker 1: with Eric's fiance last night and somebody gave you a

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Speaker 1: naked spray tan. This was this all on the same yes,

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Speaker 1: And then I woke up a loan officer. Okay, so, um, Eric,

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Speaker 1: before we get into the crime, the people want to

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Speaker 1: know how we know each other. Um, what do you mean?

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Speaker 1: We can do comedy, but not everyone knows that. I

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Speaker 1: opened on the road for Eric. We've gone to many

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Speaker 1: a city together. Um. I torture Eric with my guy issues,

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Speaker 1: problems that I have. Crack. Well, this is why, don't

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Speaker 1: worry Rachel. Rachel came home and was like all she

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Speaker 1: did was talking about her ex. Yeah, Lee is one

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Speaker 1: of those man just you have to hear about her

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Speaker 1: terrible choice in man anytime you go out with her. Well,

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Speaker 1: what else am I gonna talk about my career? Which

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Speaker 1: that or your apparently that or your butt? Crack? So

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Speaker 1: Let's get to the crimes. You know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: They you know what I mean, Come on, let's here

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Speaker 1: for it. They don't need a weird bio about me.

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Speaker 1: All right, thanks for coming everybody. Thanks set up, set up, laugh, laugh, laugh,

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Speaker 1: where's my check? I love? Rachel told me last night.

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Speaker 1: it's all the same, yeah, but it was. It was funny.

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Speaker 1: She was like on a date and brought him to

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Speaker 1: It's fine. So then I see her in the crowd.

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Speaker 1: like I'm not going to be your friend, and that

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Speaker 1: He was like, oh, wow, sit here at our table,

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Speaker 1: It sparks the it's spark the competition in a man.

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Speaker 1: You're also pathetic. Well, it sparks competition with with a man,

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Speaker 1: why don't you come to this place where my other boyfriend? Exactly?

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Speaker 1: All right, a man? So I stole her from two men?

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Speaker 1: How about that? When when two oh, Eric, watching the

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Speaker 1: men laugh at this is very discomforting. Discomforting. It's too

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Speaker 1: hot topics. Thanks for sharing your love life with us, Eric,

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Speaker 1: Colorado passes law allowing children to play outside alone based

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Speaker 1: So How to Murder Your Husband by Nancy Brophy. First

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Speaker 1: you know, now, we should all want to see what's

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00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:46,800
Speaker 1: happening on the other side for sure. Yeah. Thence when

425
00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:49,120
Speaker 1: you know what areas of the world to avoid, because

426
00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:52,040
Speaker 1: that's where the pitchforks are. Yeah. Yeah, keep your enemies close,

427
00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:55,360
Speaker 1: keep your friends close, and your enemies closer. They say, well, yeah,

428
00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:57,359
Speaker 1: and this is why I keep talking about my ex.

429
00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:04,840
Speaker 1: Just keep it all right, let's move on. Speaking of XS,

430
00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:07,760
Speaker 1: Netflix and Sony halt Will Smith. I don't know why

431
00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:09,719
Speaker 1: I said that, Like I used to date Will Smith,

432
00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:15,720
Speaker 1: but they halt Will Smith projects in the aftermath of

433
00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:19,320
Speaker 1: the infamous Chris Rock slap. Wait, bring me up to speed.

434
00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:21,960
Speaker 1: What happened with Chris Rock? Something I didn't hear about this,

435
00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:26,399
Speaker 1: So I'm honestly, I'm tired of hearing about this. I'm

436
00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:29,040
Speaker 1: over and I don't care anymore. No one cares anymore.

437
00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:31,920
Speaker 1: Let's wait for the next new Hollywood drama. This one

438
00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:35,280
Speaker 1: is tired. Yeah, I think people don't. I don't think

439
00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:39,280
Speaker 1: people care anymore, especially liberals, because it points out their hypocrisy.

440
00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:41,280
Speaker 1: So they don't want to see their hypocrisy and they

441
00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:43,000
Speaker 1: don't want to They don't want to deal with it anymore.

442
00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:44,760
Speaker 1: They don't want to deal with how like, you know,

443
00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:48,240
Speaker 1: Hollywood just kind of like celebrated this guy right after

444
00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:51,840
Speaker 1: he did something some toxic masculinity he did, and then

445
00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:53,760
Speaker 1: like everybody wants to be like, oh, let's just move

446
00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:55,600
Speaker 1: past this, and let's just move past it, you know

447
00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:57,960
Speaker 1: what I mean. So, yeah, I'm not surprised that people

448
00:23:58,000 --> 00:23:59,879
Speaker 1: are like sick of hearing about it, sick of like

449
00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:02,160
Speaker 1: wanted to deal with it. Well, what do you think

450
00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:05,240
Speaker 1: is the appropriate punishment? Well, I think he's getting punished

451
00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:07,440
Speaker 1: the way he should get punished. I think how anybody

452
00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:09,679
Speaker 1: did assault someone should get punished, no matter what their

453
00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:12,280
Speaker 1: status is in the world, they should get punished. And like,

454
00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:15,560
Speaker 1: if you're like Halton Projects, because if you're on set

455
00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:17,080
Speaker 1: with Will Smith, you're gonna be like, well, if he

456
00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:19,359
Speaker 1: gets upset is you're gonna slap me, And what is

457
00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:21,239
Speaker 1: the response going to be, Well, he would never do

458
00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:24,200
Speaker 1: that on set. He can't say that anymore. He don't

459
00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:26,720
Speaker 1: get the benefit of the doubt. There's no more benefit

460
00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:28,760
Speaker 1: of the doubt for you. You Yeah, you might slap

461
00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:32,000
Speaker 1: somebody on set because you did it in a place

462
00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:34,560
Speaker 1: where no one in the world would ever think you

463
00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:36,800
Speaker 1: would do it. So now he does not get the

464
00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:39,679
Speaker 1: benefit of the doubt. My fear is that, Yeah, I

465
00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:42,360
Speaker 1: completely agree with you. My fear is that, or my

466
00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:45,679
Speaker 1: thought is that these aren't being delayed because we want to.

467
00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:47,639
Speaker 1: You know, he didn't he did something wrong, and we

468
00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:49,520
Speaker 1: agree with it because a lot of these people are

469
00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:51,760
Speaker 1: the same people that stood up when he you know,

470
00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:54,199
Speaker 1: when he won his award and gave him a standing ovation.

471
00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:56,239
Speaker 1: I think this is more of a pr thing. Hey,

472
00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:59,240
Speaker 1: let's lay low, we have this, we're doing the right thing,

473
00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:01,120
Speaker 1: and then we'll bring back when it's when it's time.

474
00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:04,159
Speaker 1: Because it's all optics. It's all optics, because that's what

475
00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:07,560
Speaker 1: Hollywood is. Hollywood is just an image based place. They

476
00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:10,000
Speaker 1: don't they don't come across as people they really care

477
00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:13,919
Speaker 1: about morals or integrity or anything like that. It's just

478
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:16,480
Speaker 1: a place that just cares about what do people think?

479
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:19,080
Speaker 1: And let's let's deal with that and then when once

480
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:21,159
Speaker 1: this blows over and then we'll just be they'll be

481
00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:23,560
Speaker 1: back with the projects and it'll be fine, right because

482
00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:26,560
Speaker 1: they're not actually canceling the projects, they're just posing them.

483
00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:28,640
Speaker 1: The other thing is that, like, I'm sorry, but isn't

484
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:31,040
Speaker 1: Hollywood just a microcosm for the rest of the world.

485
00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:35,080
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Is the finance industry really moral and filled

486
00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:38,240
Speaker 1: with integrity? Like is the big pharma industry really moral

487
00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:41,320
Speaker 1: and filled with integrity? Like? No, everyone acts like this.

488
00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:45,520
Speaker 1: It's not just Hollywood. We just uh see this as

489
00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:49,439
Speaker 1: because everyone is so public. Like I'm sure we couldn't

490
00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:51,840
Speaker 1: name the first like top ten employees at Fighter you

491
00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:54,920
Speaker 1: know that one Fighter guy walk up and slap the other. No,

492
00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:57,840
Speaker 1: And that's the point, right, It's like there's so much

493
00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:00,800
Speaker 1: glitz and glamor around this, and people care about celebrity,

494
00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:03,800
Speaker 1: but no one cares about executives that you know, A

495
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:05,920
Speaker 1: T and T. Yeah, So I don't know. I mean,

496
00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:10,520
Speaker 1: like I say, it is what it is hot topic

497
00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:12,959
Speaker 1: right now and I totally get it. And they and

498
00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:14,639
Speaker 1: and they and you know that they wanted to go

499
00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:16,480
Speaker 1: away so they could be like, all right and we're back.

500
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:19,159
Speaker 1: Well just because like Louis, you know, Louis c K

501
00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:22,840
Speaker 1: just want to gram me so things can change. Yeah.

502
00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:24,800
Speaker 1: I mean. The other thing is like woke white women

503
00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:28,520
Speaker 1: don't know how to weigh in on this argument. Well,

504
00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:30,359
Speaker 1: they have no they have no ground to stand on.

505
00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:32,959
Speaker 1: When you look at the polls, it was something like

506
00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:39,680
Speaker 1: fifty women at first were supporting Will Smith. Well, yeah,

507
00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:44,280
Speaker 1: because he's cute, Yeah exactly, but this is yeah, this

508
00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:48,440
Speaker 1: is the problems. People don't know how they and anyone. Literally,

509
00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:51,320
Speaker 1: when I see comments on my Instagram posts that are like,

510
00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:54,040
Speaker 1: you know, Chris Rock was out of line, that joke was,

511
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:58,000
Speaker 1: I'm like, shut up. I don't think people feel that

512
00:26:58,040 --> 00:26:59,800
Speaker 1: way anymore. You know, I don't think they I don't

513
00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:02,400
Speaker 1: think people really feel that way. I think people feel

514
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:05,840
Speaker 1: like that was an overreaction, and I'm actually glad that

515
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:09,240
Speaker 1: the silver lining of this happening is now I think

516
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:12,840
Speaker 1: people are looking at themselves and going, oh, we kind

517
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:16,800
Speaker 1: of are overreacting to comedy because if he hadn't have

518
00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 1: slapped him, okay, the next day, comics would have been

519
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:24,120
Speaker 1: dragged again. It would have been like, oh, she has

520
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:27,159
Speaker 1: alopecia and comics are going to and it would have

521
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:30,640
Speaker 1: been another attack on comics. He did that, and it

522
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:34,640
Speaker 1: pointed out how ridiculous it is to be this upset

523
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:39,680
Speaker 1: at a at a at a you know, but nothing joke.

524
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:42,880
Speaker 1: But if if he hadn't slapped him, no one would

525
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:46,800
Speaker 1: have even remember the joke. I think I would have

526
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:51,440
Speaker 1: been right, right right, That's that's what it would have

527
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:53,639
Speaker 1: been like. It would have supported this even more in

528
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:56,800
Speaker 1: this attack on on comedy. It would have just keep that,

529
00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:58,639
Speaker 1: kept it going and going. It would have been like

530
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:02,000
Speaker 1: even more ridiculous, people being like, oh, I can't believe

531
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:05,480
Speaker 1: they did you know this this you know, this innocuous

532
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:09,400
Speaker 1: dad joke, a thirty year old reference dad joke, and

533
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:11,160
Speaker 1: and oh my god, you know who. I feel bad

534
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:15,880
Speaker 1: for Demi Moore because apparently being compared to Demi Moore

535
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:18,399
Speaker 1: is like the worst thing you could call someone, and

536
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:20,440
Speaker 1: you know, then they're talking about you know, so we're like, oh,

537
00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:22,639
Speaker 1: she's bald, like you know, you know what I mean? Like,

538
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:24,760
Speaker 1: what's your excuse for being bald? You know what I mean?

539
00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:27,240
Speaker 1: You know, you know, you know you know what I mean?

540
00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:29,360
Speaker 1: Like you're bald and it's like, you know, bald man,

541
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:32,840
Speaker 1: bald man. Short men get talked about all the time

542
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 1: at nauseum. You know. That's it's like this's looked at,

543
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:37,439
Speaker 1: is this thing and like, you know, it's just one

544
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:39,160
Speaker 1: of these jokes, you know what I mean. So it's

545
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:42,280
Speaker 1: like should lea, should leah? She comes slap me now

546
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:44,480
Speaker 1: for your honor? You know what I'm saying. It's like,

547
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 1: it's just say the word dri It's just ridiculous, It's

548
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, It's just ridiculous. I think people are

549
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:57,720
Speaker 1: aware of it now. I think people are aware of like,

550
00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:02,920
Speaker 1: how what an overrea action that was to an innocuous joke.

551
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:05,800
Speaker 1: And if we're gonna react like that to a joke

552
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 1: like that, then what is left for comedy? And I

553
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,240
Speaker 1: think there's been a reinvigoration of comedy, right. I think

554
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 1: people like I had shows in San Antonio and I

555
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:16,840
Speaker 1: felt like the people are like really there for comedy now.

556
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:20,040
Speaker 1: That's why Chris Rocks Towards sold out because people are like, yeah,

557
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:22,040
Speaker 1: we want to hear what you have to say now.

558
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 1: And I think people are I think we've been slapped

559
00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:29,200
Speaker 1: out of this kind of like woke hase of of overcorrection,

560
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:32,240
Speaker 1: over sensitivity, and I mean, you know, Will Smith did that.

561
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 1: I think he slapped America out of this nonsense of

562
00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:38,360
Speaker 1: attacking comedy. It's a good point, and you give I mean, listen,

563
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:40,320
Speaker 1: Ricky Gervais has been saying this for a long time.

564
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 1: He's been saying, Okay, if you want to say I'm

565
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 1: offended by a joke, didn't say it. I feel like

566
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:47,080
Speaker 1: I feel, But don't say that joke is offensive because

567
00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:51,840
Speaker 1: it doesn't. It's not for everybody. To me is what's

568
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 1: missing from everyone's tweets to me. That's the real you know,

569
00:29:57,920 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 1: instead of the me too movement, we need to start

570
00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:03,160
Speaker 1: the to me movement, you know what I mean. So

571
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:05,320
Speaker 1: it's like, you know, so someone goes, oh my god,

572
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:09,120
Speaker 1: he said that, and he is racist for saying that,

573
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 1: and then you need to add the words to me.

574
00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:14,280
Speaker 1: Then the rest of us can go, Okay, that's just

575
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:18,120
Speaker 1: your opinion, the same way you're allowed to have your opinion,

576
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:21,000
Speaker 1: but it's not facts. It's just your opinion. Right. It's

577
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:23,000
Speaker 1: the same way people used to add in bed to

578
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:26,400
Speaker 1: fortune cookies, right exactly. It's the This is the R. S.

579
00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:28,240
Speaker 1: T L N. And e of of of Wheel of

580
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:30,959
Speaker 1: Fortune where they just gave you those because from now on,

581
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:33,760
Speaker 1: Tweet should always say to me at the end, that's

582
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:35,600
Speaker 1: that's how I feel about it. And so so it's

583
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:37,560
Speaker 1: like it's fun. It's like you know when somebody like

584
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:41,160
Speaker 1: because you know what it's about premise. So when you're talking,

585
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:44,200
Speaker 1: if you're talking to someone about the Chris Rock situation,

586
00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:48,600
Speaker 1: you have to ask them where do you stand? What

587
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:52,000
Speaker 1: do you feel? So if a person says, well, I

588
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:57,000
Speaker 1: feel he was being mean spirited and hateful and he

589
00:30:57,040 --> 00:31:00,360
Speaker 1: was trying to hurt them. If that's your premise, then

590
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 1: I know why you're arguing this. Then you also have

591
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 1: to accept my premise that it was just an innocuous

592
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 1: fun dad joke, that he was making poking fun because

593
00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:13,520
Speaker 1: that's his job at the oscars. If you accept that premise,

594
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 1: if you can accept that premise too, then why are

595
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 1: we fighting? Then there's no point we could just agree

596
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:22,240
Speaker 1: to disagree because I because because I'm saying, of all

597
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 1: the things, if he is a mean spirited, terrible person

598
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 1: that was trying to hurt them, of all the information

599
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 1: that is known about the Smiths, you mean to tell

600
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:36,120
Speaker 1: me that a g I Jane joke is the worst

601
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:39,800
Speaker 1: he could have done as a means, mean spirited person.

602
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:43,960
Speaker 1: I find that to be idiotic. Can we be real?

603
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:46,480
Speaker 1: The joke was funny, like they could have done so

604
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 1: much better. I'm even surprised at that made the cutting,

605
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:51,520
Speaker 1: Like you know what I mean that that it didn't

606
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:54,000
Speaker 1: get cut. I don't think that that was like first

607
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 1: of all, like I said, I don't think that was

608
00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 1: even a part of it. I think he just said

609
00:31:57,480 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 1: that in a moment. I think he just said it

610
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:00,720
Speaker 1: in a moment and he thought, you know what I mean,

611
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:02,080
Speaker 1: he thought it was gonna be like fun. And then

612
00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:03,960
Speaker 1: that's why the crowd had a weird read. The crowd

613
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:05,760
Speaker 1: was like, ah, it was one of those like it's

614
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 1: a dad joke. It was like Chris rock Win, pull

615
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 1: up my finger, Jada, you know what I mean, That's

616
00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 1: exactly what that joke was. And so so that's even

617
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:17,720
Speaker 1: more reason to be like, wow, what overreaction to a

618
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:19,920
Speaker 1: comedy to a joke. But it was also just such

619
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 1: a dated joke, you know, like why don't you just

620
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:25,120
Speaker 1: call her the rock like more? Because that would have

621
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 1: been more insulting. I mean, that's what I'm saying again

622
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:31,000
Speaker 1: he in his mind was like, well, this is fun thing,

623
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:33,000
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And it's like, you know

624
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 1: what's really stupid about it is if there's a woman

625
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 1: dealing with alopecia and she's bald and she's feeling terrible

626
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 1: about herself, someone could say to her, you know, you

627
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 1: should be like g I Jane and it would be

628
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:52,760
Speaker 1: empowering and uplifting. So it's all about intent, it's all

629
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 1: about context. And again, this was a huge overreaction. And

630
00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:00,920
Speaker 1: I think people saw themselves in Will Smith. Because if

631
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 1: Will Smith this beacon of you know, of hope and

632
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:08,400
Speaker 1: and and a person that has transcended race and wealth

633
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 1: and all this thing in this country, and you can

634
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Speaker 1: see someone like that have such a stupid overreaction, I

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00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:16,720
Speaker 1: think everyone else saw themselves in that too. And and

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Speaker 1: there's and I think the smart people are going, oh,

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00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:23,040
Speaker 1: I need to stop. I need to like check myself

638
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:26,800
Speaker 1: about what I think is an insult. Yeah, we need

639
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 1: to do wellness. Check on Demi Moore, she's going through this.

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00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:34,680
Speaker 1: You know she's having a tough time right now. Yeah,

641
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:37,800
Speaker 1: she's she's having a tough week. You want to tie

642
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 1: these things together, all these people are the people in Colorado.

643
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Speaker 1: They're looking out their windows and they're like, oh, did

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Speaker 1: you see what? He just made a joke that he

645
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:47,040
Speaker 1: shouldn't have made, you know what. And they're calling in

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Speaker 1: their reporting that it was a joke, that that could

647
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Speaker 1: have been offended, Like yeah, yeah, yes, it's exactly. It's

648
00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:54,720
Speaker 1: like parents calling about the kids, like it's just like again,

649
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Speaker 1: it's you make a joke, but it's actually very it's

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Speaker 1: actually very true. Like we we are a society of overreaction,

651
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:07,320
Speaker 1: over correction, you know. Uh, And that's you know, there's

652
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:10,760
Speaker 1: no there's no nuanced common sense, there's no context, there's

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Speaker 1: no it's just this overreaction. It's and it's a byproduct

654
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:16,279
Speaker 1: of the Internet. It's a byproduct of of having to

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Speaker 1: make all your points in a hundred and forty characters.

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Speaker 1: And on that note, we're going to take a break

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Speaker 1: because that was offensive to me. We'll be right back. Yea,

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Speaker 1: hello everyone, and welcome back to Real Time Crime. I'm

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Speaker 1: your host, Lee Lamar. I have with me my friends

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Speaker 1: Dmitri and Eric Griffin, and we are about to get

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Speaker 1: into our major topic for today, which is the Sacramento shooting.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure a lot of you have heard about it already,

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Speaker 1: but for those of you who haven't, what happened was

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Speaker 1: six people, three women, three men were killed and twelve

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Speaker 1: others suffered varying degrees of injuries in a mass shooting

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Speaker 1: in an area of downtown Sacramento, California, bustling with nightlife.

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Speaker 1: More than one hundred shots were fired early Sunday as

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Speaker 1: hundreds lined the streets leaving clubs and bars in downtown Sacramento.

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Speaker 1: Investigators believe multiple shooters open fire just steps from the

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Speaker 1: capital in the wake of a large fight after last

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Speaker 1: call early Sunday. So one person has been arrested in

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Speaker 1: connection with the shooting on Monday. As of Tuesday, April five,

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Speaker 1: the older brother of the first suspect in the deadly

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Speaker 1: Sacramento mass shootings was also arrested. Smiley Martin, the twenty

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Speaker 1: seven year old brother of Dondre Martin, was busted in

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Speaker 1: the hospital bed on charges included being in possession of

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Speaker 1: a machine gun Okay. While both Martin brothers have been

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Speaker 1: named as suspects, neither has been charged with homicide. There

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Speaker 1: were multiple shooters involved and more arrests are expected, so

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Speaker 1: apparently the investigation is highly complex, involving many witnesses, videos

681
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:07,800
Speaker 1: of numerous types, and significant physical evidence. The latest arrest

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00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:11,319
Speaker 1: came after SWAT officers and detective served search warrants at

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Speaker 1: three residences seizing a handgun. Okay, so it's interesting that

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Speaker 1: this happened late at night and apparently there was an argument,

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Speaker 1: a fight that broke out before it. Do we think

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Speaker 1: that the mass shooting stemmed from the fight? What do

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00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:32,360
Speaker 1: we think this is like gang activity? What do we

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Speaker 1: think happened here? And also I'm going to share my

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Speaker 1: screen again because I'll just never understand people. But one

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Speaker 1: of the brothers, Dendre Martin, posted on Facebook shaking my head,

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Speaker 1: I'm hit. What do you mean? He posted that he

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Speaker 1: got hit during like during the shootings. Hit. Well, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I don't even know what to think about any of this.

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Speaker 1: And then I just think it's like, you know, this

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Speaker 1: is just like some people that made some very terrible

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Speaker 1: choices and law enforcement has stepped in and and you know,

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Speaker 1: they got arrested. You know. Like the thing that would

698
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 1: be bug me more about this is if if it

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00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:21,279
Speaker 1: was like there was a shooting and there's no suspects

700
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:25,279
Speaker 1: and these people are at large, no this was like

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00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 1: swift justice. I mean, that's what we need. I mean,

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00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 1: the swift justice needs to be the thing that has

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00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 1: talked about the most, because that's the deterrent. You know,

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00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 1: there's plenty of people that have guns, and there's plenty

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Speaker 1: of people that you know, don't have anger management issues.

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00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:40,800
Speaker 1: There's gang violence, and there's all this stuff, But the

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Speaker 1: deterrent has to be that the law enforcement is going

708
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 1: to step in and you're not going to get away

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00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 1: with it. And that's what's happening here. But why do

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Speaker 1: you think it's okay for people to just have machine guns? Civilians? Listen?

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00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:56,600
Speaker 1: That's that's like getting into the idea of gun control

712
00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:57,880
Speaker 1: and all that kind of stuff. That's not going to

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Speaker 1: stop people from doing bad things, you know, I mean,

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00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:02,680
Speaker 1: I can you know, it's like the thing to me,

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Speaker 1: like I I keep you know, I actually talking. I

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Speaker 1: have material about this, you know, because you know, the

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Speaker 1: issue to me is not the right and the left

718
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:14,080
Speaker 1: fighting about guns. The issue should be the right and

719
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 1: the left talking to gun companies about upgrading their technology,

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Speaker 1: Like why are we still using why are we still

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00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 1: shooting pieces of metal at people with lethal force? Why

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Speaker 1: is that the technology? Like I call on Elon Musk

723
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 1: to invent an electric gun like he invented the electric car.

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00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:37,840
Speaker 1: Like like, where is the technology that is non lethal

725
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:41,759
Speaker 1: that can stop people and you know, put people down, Like,

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00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:43,719
Speaker 1: where is the like we have an advanced to the

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00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:46,880
Speaker 1: point where we're still using little pieces of metal to

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00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:49,560
Speaker 1: shoot at people Like that, to me is the issue

729
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 1: not who has them not you know, you know all

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Speaker 1: that and like taking it away from people who are

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00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:57,719
Speaker 1: obviously knows how to handle a gun and they're safe

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Speaker 1: with a gun. Uh, you know the idea of that,

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Speaker 1: Like we need to find make sure people are mentally stable,

734
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 1: because that's fluid that changes over time. There's plenty of

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Speaker 1: people who are very mentally stable and then they just

736
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:10,839
Speaker 1: crack and they were great with guns and now they

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Speaker 1: have a bunch of guns and they went crazy. I

738
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Speaker 1: mean that, you know. We can go on and on

739
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:15,759
Speaker 1: and on about should we have guns and should we

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Speaker 1: not have guns. The question we should be asking is

741
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Speaker 1: why is the technology still at that level? Just in

742
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 1: the same way that we should have had electric cars

743
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:26,560
Speaker 1: thirty years ago. You know, we should have had them

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Speaker 1: in thirty years weal because the oil companies put the

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00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:31,560
Speaker 1: kai Bosh On that it's the same thing with this.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure that there's better technology out there, but the

747
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:36,359
Speaker 1: gun companies are making so much money and no one

748
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:39,120
Speaker 1: ever blames them, No one talks about them. It's always

749
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:41,520
Speaker 1: about like, oh, should you know? It's always about the

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Speaker 1: people that have the guns as opposed to like the

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Speaker 1: people that make them. So we could have Elon developed

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Speaker 1: a long range taser, you know, you where it shoots

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00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:57,920
Speaker 1: out some sort of electric current that destabilizes someone versus right, Like,

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Speaker 1: I think that's the sort of technology. But I think

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00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 1: I think the issue is and also I do think

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Speaker 1: the government and the army has all types of weapons

757
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:07,960
Speaker 1: like this. The public just doesn't have access to them

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00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:11,280
Speaker 1: or knowledge of them. Don't you think who knows? That's

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Speaker 1: my question. That's the question I'm putting out there. The

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Speaker 1: question I'm raising is why is the technology still a

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Speaker 1: hundred fifty years old? You know? That's what I'm saying,

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00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:25,960
Speaker 1: even though the guns are saying they've made the guns

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Speaker 1: themselves better and whatever, but it's still the same technology.

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Speaker 1: It's basically a fancy slingshot, like you know what I mean, Like,

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Speaker 1: we're still shooting objects at each other to penetrate the

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00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:43,040
Speaker 1: body with lethal force. Again, why is that still the

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00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:46,920
Speaker 1: technology that we're using? That should be the question. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think also the bigger issue is did

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Speaker 1: they just get into a fight in question mark over

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Speaker 1: what and they just all happen to have guns and

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Speaker 1: it just turned into a shooting spree or was this

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Speaker 1: some sort of planned altercation or is this some sort

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Speaker 1: of gang fight where there are a lot of other

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Speaker 1: players at play that are just not the people that

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Speaker 1: were there shooting guns. And I think that that is

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Speaker 1: now what's making the case so complex is because they're

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00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:17,719
Speaker 1: trying to figure out what the fight was about, who

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00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:21,160
Speaker 1: was involved, and if there's actually a larger issue at play,

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00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 1: well that's the that's what the law enforcement is doing

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00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:27,440
Speaker 1: in their investigation, trying to find motive, to find out

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Speaker 1: you know why, I mean, because then it would be

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Speaker 1: the motively it leads to like how they can be charged.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's going to be first degree murder? Is

784
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 1: this going to be whatever? I mean, you know, the

785
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:38,920
Speaker 1: law is very complex. It's way way more complex than

786
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:42,840
Speaker 1: it is on the internet or on TV. So you know, again,

787
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 1: get wrapped up in an hour, Yeah, I know, but

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Speaker 1: I'm really glad that. You know, let's let's give kudos

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Speaker 1: to law enforcement for moving swiftly, acting quick, you know,

790
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:57,319
Speaker 1: acting on this and they have people in custody, and

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00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:00,320
Speaker 1: you know that's usually that's usually the dominoes for getting

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00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 1: everyone else, you know, because no one's gonna sit here

793
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Speaker 1: and be like, you know, I'm faced with this crime

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00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 1: on my own. I think it's gonna be a situation

795
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:10,719
Speaker 1: where it's like, well, what just me? It was him? Him? Him?

796
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:13,479
Speaker 1: Think they're going to wrap people out? Yeah, for sure.

797
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:17,960
Speaker 1: How this is how it happens if you're face if

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Speaker 1: you're faced with murder, if you're faced with twenty five

799
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Speaker 1: to life, you know. And uh, you know, one guy

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Speaker 1: is doing stick on Facebook, so I don't know if

801
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:29,759
Speaker 1: he's he's taking it too seriously yet, Yeah, right, but

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00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:32,719
Speaker 1: that but that shows somebody that is for sure going

803
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:35,400
Speaker 1: to uh you know, look, I think the justice is

804
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:38,280
Speaker 1: gonna be served, you know, hopefully, but from the sounds

805
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 1: of it right now, I think we should applaud the

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00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:43,400
Speaker 1: law enforcement for you know, acting swiftly and getting and

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Speaker 1: having people in custody. So I mean, we could sit

808
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:47,960
Speaker 1: here on this podcast and talk about why they did

809
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:50,200
Speaker 1: it and is there something more is there's some conspiracy

810
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:56,080
Speaker 1: and all that kind of stuff. I get it, I'm saying,

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Speaker 1: but I'm saying, you know, I don't know all those

812
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:02,920
Speaker 1: kinds whatever that is. What you know, it's just because

813
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:07,719
Speaker 1: like people have done dumber things for less, you know,

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Speaker 1: So like these people have terrible aim like I'm sorry,

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Speaker 1: a hundred shots fired like did they did? Are? And

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00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:22,080
Speaker 1: none of these six people are either of the opposing team,

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00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:25,960
Speaker 1: then you you kind of question the motive. Right then

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00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:29,880
Speaker 1: it's just like, what what's the motive here? Right? I

819
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:33,919
Speaker 1: don't know, Well, the thing is like something that we're

820
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:36,600
Speaker 1: trying to make sense of, something of that doesn't make sense.

821
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:38,960
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, not not everything has to make sense,

822
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 1: but not everything has to Harry, we don't make sense.

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00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:46,640
Speaker 1: Not everything has to have a little motive that ties

824
00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 1: up into a little bow. Ah, this is why they

825
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:52,320
Speaker 1: did this. They these could just be some some dumb

826
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:55,640
Speaker 1: some dumb people that made dumb choices and now they're

827
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Speaker 1: living with their consequences. Here's here's here's the question. And

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Speaker 1: I'm not get political, you know, I don't really want

829
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Speaker 1: to do that. But the point is there are states

830
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:06,960
Speaker 1: right now that are making it easier to get guns right.

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Speaker 1: And I know people bring up, oh, well you don't.

832
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 1: You know, you need a license to to get for

833
00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:12,839
Speaker 1: a hunting license, but you don't need one to own

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Speaker 1: a gun. So there are states that are making easier

835
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Speaker 1: to get guns right. But and people are going, well whatever,

836
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:21,759
Speaker 1: But then, like we said before, not to go back

837
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Speaker 1: to this again, but we're so focused on you know what,

838
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:27,719
Speaker 1: there's a new law about what age kids can be

839
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:31,400
Speaker 1: alone or do something outside by themselves, like golf guys, Like,

840
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 1: look at what you're doing here. You're you're you're brushing

841
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:36,359
Speaker 1: off and like you said, Eric, is because of the money, right,

842
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:39,720
Speaker 1: you're brushing off rules about guns and and hey, listen,

843
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:42,120
Speaker 1: add that maturity level to buying a gun. Put that

844
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Speaker 1: as one of the levels as to whether someone can

845
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:46,279
Speaker 1: buy a gun, as opposed to we're making a law

846
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:48,920
Speaker 1: as to the age that people can kids can play outside.

847
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:51,160
Speaker 1: Because a lot of people are calling in, but let

848
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:55,600
Speaker 1: me push back on this. Okay, So the people that

849
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:59,279
Speaker 1: are committing crimes and doing things, are you saying that

850
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 1: these are people that are in states that got guns legally? No, no, no, no,

851
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 1: I'm not saying so that. But but that's but but

852
00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:09,719
Speaker 1: that's the you're inferring that, And what I'm saying to

853
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 1: you is the pushback on that is, hey, I'm a

854
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:19,959
Speaker 1: regular citizen and criminals can get guns willie nilly, Yeah,

855
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:24,720
Speaker 1: I don't think. But then but then then they shouldn't

856
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:27,920
Speaker 1: be brought up in the same context. So maybe what

857
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:30,719
Speaker 1: I should have said was I think as far as

858
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:33,279
Speaker 1: gun technology, they should be focusing on that, which is

859
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:35,880
Speaker 1: what you said. They should be focusing on that because

860
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:37,719
Speaker 1: there are people that are not mature enough to have

861
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:40,520
Speaker 1: what they're being given or what they're getting access to,

862
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:42,759
Speaker 1: or what we're giving them, what we're putting out there.

863
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:44,880
Speaker 1: But but it's so weird how we want like we're like,

864
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:50,800
Speaker 1: we're we're wondering why criminals act like criminals, you know

865
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:54,920
Speaker 1: what I mean? Like it's like, why aren't criminals making sense? What?

866
00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:57,279
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Like, that's the that's the

867
00:45:57,280 --> 00:45:59,359
Speaker 1: thought process when you know, like's like, I don't care

868
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:01,719
Speaker 1: that they're if there's a state that's allowing people to

869
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:05,720
Speaker 1: get guns, they were allowing that because criminals can get guns,

870
00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:09,120
Speaker 1: and then we're stopping regular people from getting guns. Now, Listen,

871
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 1: there's a lot of gun related accidents that happen because

872
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:14,239
Speaker 1: people just aren't prepared. Like I say, like you have

873
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:15,920
Speaker 1: to take a driving test to get a to get

874
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:18,160
Speaker 1: a license. You know, you have to go down to

875
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:19,800
Speaker 1: the d m V, get in a car with somebody

876
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:22,239
Speaker 1: who's got a clipboard, and you have to prove that

877
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:25,840
Speaker 1: you can drive a car okay, because it's dangerous because

878
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:27,480
Speaker 1: if you're on the street, you could actually hurt someone,

879
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:30,319
Speaker 1: hurt yourself, hurt someone else. That's what we need to

880
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:32,640
Speaker 1: add to the gun process. You know, you need to

881
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:34,799
Speaker 1: have insurance. You should you have to have insurance to

882
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:36,759
Speaker 1: have a gun. You should have to have take a

883
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:38,399
Speaker 1: test to have a gun. You should have to prove

884
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:40,359
Speaker 1: that you know how to handle a gun before they

885
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:42,120
Speaker 1: give you a gun. I mean, these are the things

886
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:44,399
Speaker 1: we need to be talking about, you know, other than

887
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:47,160
Speaker 1: just like hey take guns away or why are they

888
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:49,520
Speaker 1: allowing people to get guns? I mean, I mean, it

889
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:50,920
Speaker 1: is what it is. I mean, it's you know, you

890
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:52,160
Speaker 1: know what I mean. You know you know what I'm saying.

891
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:55,160
Speaker 1: But it's like, but my main point about in the

892
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:58,760
Speaker 1: reference to this discussion is stop. We need to stop

893
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:04,759
Speaker 1: trying to have rules for criminals and wonder why they're

894
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:07,640
Speaker 1: breaking these rules and wonder why they're doing what they're

895
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:09,920
Speaker 1: doing or how why they're not breaking rules and they're

896
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:12,640
Speaker 1: not criminals. Yeah, we need to have the rules in place,

897
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 1: but yes, I get that, but it's what I'm saying,

898
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:18,840
Speaker 1: We're we're hoping that they have better intentions or you know,

899
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:20,560
Speaker 1: it's like why did you know? It's like you know

900
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:22,640
Speaker 1: it is what it is. You know, It's like there's

901
00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:24,799
Speaker 1: plenty of like the person you shouldn't be worried about

902
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 1: is not the gun nut is not the person you

903
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:28,839
Speaker 1: should be worried about. I don't know if you've ever

904
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:30,959
Speaker 1: met a gun nut or somebody that's super into guns,

905
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:35,120
Speaker 1: like there you know, and they're like they're super into safety.

906
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 1: Like a gun nut is somebody that's like they know

907
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 1: everything about the gun. They got it locked up in

908
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 1: their little cabin and they're like, oh, let me show

909
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:42,319
Speaker 1: you this gun. This is like a are blah blah blah,

910
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:44,840
Speaker 1: and they're like that, and that's you know, those aren't

911
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:47,480
Speaker 1: like that person also could go crazy, but that has

912
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:49,759
Speaker 1: nothing to do with them having access to guns. That

913
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:52,120
Speaker 1: has to do more about like what's going on with

914
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:54,800
Speaker 1: people's mental health, what's going on in like you know, society,

915
00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:57,480
Speaker 1: what's going on, and you know, well, of the two

916
00:47:57,560 --> 00:48:00,320
Speaker 1: guys I dated who owned guns, one of them was

917
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:03,759
Speaker 1: a gun nut and he has it locked in a

918
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:06,240
Speaker 1: case where you need to use your fingerprint to open

919
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:09,319
Speaker 1: the case, which I actually liked because it made me

920
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:13,839
Speaker 1: feel safer. But then the other guy, we'll just say

921
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:16,440
Speaker 1: he did pick me up and only let me know

922
00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:20,640
Speaker 1: that he was on shrooms while driving halfway to the movies,

923
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:24,080
Speaker 1: and then on the way home showed me both of

924
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:25,640
Speaker 1: his guns in the car. He was like, check the

925
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:27,640
Speaker 1: glove compartment. Then I opened. I was like ah, and

926
00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:29,480
Speaker 1: then he was like check the center console and I

927
00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:31,560
Speaker 1: was like ah, and then I moved because I was

928
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:35,879
Speaker 1: scared he knew where I lived. Anyway, I'm fine, yeah,

929
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:39,680
Speaker 1: but that's somebody that's like, you know, yeah, I went

930
00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:48,280
Speaker 1: on a date with the Yeah, Eric's like bad choices.

931
00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:49,480
Speaker 1: Then I'm like, I went on a date with a

932
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:54,200
Speaker 1: DJ and U And it's so funny because I was like, oh,

933
00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:55,600
Speaker 1: he seemed nice, and then I was like, he did

934
00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:57,560
Speaker 1: give me drugs at the end of the date, but

935
00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:01,880
Speaker 1: there were shrooms, So, you know, just another l a

936
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:03,359
Speaker 1: day in the books. We did go for a hike

937
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:06,440
Speaker 1: as well, if you were curious, you and your hikes.

938
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:09,520
Speaker 1: You know, I gotta get I gotta get a two

939
00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:14,920
Speaker 1: for a day and workout like it think better than

940
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:17,320
Speaker 1: dating someone at the gym, are going to the gym together.

941
00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:20,279
Speaker 1: So I'll give you that. I you know what I

942
00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:23,239
Speaker 1: hate workout couples, you know what i mean. You know

943
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:25,480
Speaker 1: those couples that are just like they're always in sweatsuits

944
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:27,000
Speaker 1: and you see them that they're walking and they're like,

945
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:29,520
Speaker 1: hey guys, and they're like, what are you guys doing?

946
00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:34,920
Speaker 1: You're just like cof you know what i mean. They

947
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:38,120
Speaker 1: have their nalgeans. You're like, yeah, they're just a plastic

948
00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:40,479
Speaker 1: water bottle like the rest of us. You know, they're

949
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:42,600
Speaker 1: always on their bike. You know, their their honeymoon was

950
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:44,839
Speaker 1: like a twenty six mile marathon. Like one of those

951
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:47,839
Speaker 1: type of couples. I'm just like, get away from me. Yeah,

952
00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:51,480
Speaker 1: you and your abs, get the out of here. Yeah exactly.

953
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:54,040
Speaker 1: Now I'm the opposite. I'm like when my wife's like

954
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:55,520
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go for a run, I'm like, okay, you go,

955
00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:57,560
Speaker 1: and then when you come back, I'll go like, I

956
00:49:57,560 --> 00:49:59,080
Speaker 1: don't know, we don't need to be running next to

957
00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:01,759
Speaker 1: each other. Yeah, well do you You don't sleep next

958
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:07,799
Speaker 1: to each other either, Oh, are you supposed to do that? Yeah,

959
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:11,040
Speaker 1: this would be a problem to me. Say that feels better,

960
00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:13,960
Speaker 1: doesn't it, because you know what it is is you

961
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:17,640
Speaker 1: taking accountability of your own opinion. That's the thing about it.

962
00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:21,759
Speaker 1: Take accountability for your opinion. Make it yours, don't make

963
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:24,680
Speaker 1: it something that you need people to say a men to. Well,

964
00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:27,279
Speaker 1: and that's it. Everybody judges. So if I had said that, right,

965
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:29,000
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't like to go jogging at the

966
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:30,520
Speaker 1: same time like my wife and I don't like to

967
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:33,040
Speaker 1: run together someone. But well, that's not a healthy relationship

968
00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:37,799
Speaker 1: to your exactly, thank you, Because then what people do

969
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:40,360
Speaker 1: is go, oh, this person isn't in a healthy relationship.

970
00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:43,200
Speaker 1: They don't know the context, they don't know the nuance,

971
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:46,160
Speaker 1: they don't know the details of your relationship. They just

972
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:48,520
Speaker 1: made a statement and they want to make it true.

973
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:53,200
Speaker 1: It's like you, you know, that's what i'd say to that,

974
00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:55,479
Speaker 1: and that and that's how and I think that that's how.

975
00:50:56,640 --> 00:50:59,360
Speaker 1: I think the slap is waking us up to that fact.

976
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:09,000
Speaker 1: To you. Yeah, and ladies and gentlemen, that's the podcast today. Eric,

977
00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:12,439
Speaker 1: where can we find you on the internet, Like they're

978
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:16,480
Speaker 1: not the weird stuff, just social Yeah, we don't want

979
00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:18,160
Speaker 1: to know where the sex tapes are, just you know,

980
00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:21,520
Speaker 1: your content whatever. But you can find me at you know,

981
00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:29,000
Speaker 1: Eric Griffin dot com. You know what I mean, that's

982
00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:31,319
Speaker 1: that's Eric with k people. Yeah, that this I feel

983
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:35,680
Speaker 1: about Leyah. Sometimes the amount of times Eric has called

984
00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:39,239
Speaker 1: me a nightmare is I mean, I can't even count.

985
00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:40,840
Speaker 1: I don't. I mean, I can't count that high. But

986
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:44,279
Speaker 1: you can find me at Eric Griffin r I K

987
00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:47,320
Speaker 1: G R I F F I N at Eric Griffin.

988
00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:51,840
Speaker 1: And then I'm also on Twitch a lot, Eric Griffin Gaming,

989
00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:55,560
Speaker 1: and you know, I'm like on Twitch, I'm sorrying on Twitter,

990
00:51:55,800 --> 00:52:00,000
Speaker 1: Instagram is at Eric Griffin, Snapchat at Eric Griffin. I'm

991
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:03,359
Speaker 1: twitching just thinking about watching you on Twitch. Yeah, well

992
00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:05,120
Speaker 1: you can come watch me on Twitch. You know what

993
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:07,839
Speaker 1: I mean. I'm good, Thank you so much. Sounds really

994
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:13,080
Speaker 1: fun to you. Now. Now she's gonna be a nightmare

995
00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:17,279
Speaker 1: with this, She's what I'm saying. You know, it's just

996
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:19,239
Speaker 1: this is this is oh my god, you get it.

997
00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:23,319
Speaker 1: It's when you get any toy. Yeah, this is why

998
00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:26,359
Speaker 1: we she can't have nice things. Wait to you. You're

999
00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:30,120
Speaker 1: supposed to be on my team? Yes, right, Um, this

1000
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:35,839
Speaker 1: is why she can't have nice boyfriends. People. You can

1001
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:39,000
Speaker 1: find me on the internet at Leo lamar l e

1002
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Speaker 1: h l A M A r R and on TikTok

1003
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Speaker 1: with five ours again. We don't know why, it's just

1004
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:52,960
Speaker 1: like that sometimes Twitter lamar five h Yeah. And um,

1005
00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:56,279
Speaker 1: you know, guys, you know you can call in live.

1006
00:52:56,680 --> 00:53:01,400
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1009
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Speaker 1: seven four six three. Guys, Stay safe, don't commit any

1010
00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:16,560
Speaker 1: crimes before the next episode. Love you bye. It's real

1011
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Speaker 1: time grow it real time grad I mean, is it

1012
00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:25,360
Speaker 1: actually real time crime? I'm solving anything or is that

1013
00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:26,960
Speaker 1: just the thing we say it's a thing, we say,

1014
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