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Speaker 1: what a show tonight? But I'm right, okay, So let's

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Speaker 1: talk about this media settlement, ABC lies, communism, shared values.

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Speaker 1: We have so much to discuss tonight. First, let me

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Speaker 2: Them to lie?

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Speaker 1: Of course, obviously almost a stupid question. Of course, telling

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Speaker 1: This is a mistake we on the right have made

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Speaker 2: But that's where you make a mistake.

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Speaker 1: You see, there are people all across this planet, for

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Speaker 1: And the American communist most definitely does not share your values.

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Speaker 1: And that's gonna bring us to the media in this

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Speaker 9: You know, there's a big difference between the United Healthcare

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Speaker 2: It happens in societies.

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Speaker 9: Nothing wrong with the public being mad at the of

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Speaker 10: I mean, we need dramatic healthcare reform in this country.

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Speaker 9: it was a sort of a movie being scripted for us,

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Speaker 9: and we shouldn't be manipulated by it. It's very, very

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Speaker 9: dangerous and as long as you're alert to how that

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Speaker 9: manipulation takes place, then you can you can insulate yourself

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Speaker 9: from the effects of this kind of stuff. But that's

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Speaker 9: exactly what's going on right now. Luigimangioni was a tempio.

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Speaker 9: They tried to valorize him and turn him into a

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Speaker 9: hero to get rid of our other heroes in the

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Speaker 9: r FK. Junior, So that this is an attempt to

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Speaker 9: create manufacturer cobble together in a Hollywood style and new

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Speaker 9: a lot of people that are are vulnerable and easy

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Speaker 10: And it's pretty pathetic.

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Speaker 2: It is very pathetic. Jeffrey, thank you, I appreciate you

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Speaker 2: come back to You know what else is pathetic?

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Speaker 1: Not sleeping will It's awful, It's horrible, ruined life ruins

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Speaker 1: other natural things, natural things, And you just sit on

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Speaker 2: And when you wake up in.

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Speaker 1: The morning, instead of feeling groggy and grabby, and that

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Speaker 1: you feel rested, like you got perfectly natural sleep because

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Speaker 2: You want up to forty percent off.

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Speaker 1: Go to shopbeam dot com slash Jesse Kelly go get

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Speaker 1: forty percent off.

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Speaker 2: We'll be back.

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Speaker 7: All right.

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Speaker 1: What's going on with corporate transparency? Apparently there's a deadline

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Speaker 1: right around the corner. And I didn't even find my watch.

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Speaker 1: It's up in my sleep.

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Speaker 2: There's a deadline right around the corner, and it's a

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Speaker 2: really big deal, and I don't know what's going on.

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Speaker 1: So let's talk to someone who probably does a recovering

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Speaker 1: investment banker now author friend of mine, Carol Roth. She

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Speaker 1: wrote the book You Will Own Nothing and other wonderful books.

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Speaker 2: I should note.

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Speaker 1: Okay, curl, what is this Corporate Transparency Act?

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Speaker 2: What is the deadline?

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Speaker 1: All this stuff is above my balding head.

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Speaker 2: I don't understand.

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Speaker 11: So this is the rule that is targeting small business owners.

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Speaker 11: You may recall it's called the Corporate Transparency Act Beneficial

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Speaker 11: Ownership Information Rule, And basically, the Financial Crimes Division of

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Speaker 11: the Treasury would like to treat small businesses as if

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Speaker 11: they were financial criminals, and if they're not, potentially turned

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Speaker 11: them into financial criminals.

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Speaker 12: The whole reason behind this they want you to.

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Speaker 11: Register your information for everybody who's an owner in the business,

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Speaker 11: plus anybody who is a key quote decision maker whatever

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Speaker 11: that means with the Financial Crimes Enforcement Network, and they

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Speaker 11: want to have your driver's license or passport and all

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Speaker 11: kinds of personal information that they put into a database.

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Speaker 12: And their stated reason is such an amazing reason.

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Speaker 11: It's to stop Cartel's terrorists and money launderers. Because I

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Speaker 11: am certain for one that those terrorists and money launderers

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Speaker 11: are going to register their beneficial ownership information with the government.

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Speaker 11: The challenge for small businesses is that if you don't

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Speaker 11: comply that you could end up in jail. You could

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Speaker 11: end up with a fine of almost six hundred dollars

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Speaker 11: per day and growing, and millions of small businesses don't

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Speaker 11: even know about this, despite the fact that it's completely

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Speaker 11: unconstitutional and shouldn't be a thing to begin with. So

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Speaker 11: there was a lawsuit earlier this year with the NSBA

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Speaker 11: where the court found it unconstitutional, but narrowed the scope

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Speaker 11: to just the plaintiffs.

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Speaker 12: In that case, which is insane.

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Speaker 11: Because if it's unconstitutional, it should be unconstitutional for everyone. Fortunately,

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Speaker 11: earlier this month we had a Texas court that put

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Speaker 11: out an injunction and set Treasury we're sorry, this is unconstitutional.

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Speaker 11: We're going to make it so that no small businesses

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Speaker 11: who even single member LLCs, who who or or es

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Speaker 11: corpse any solopreneur that has an entity that they're not

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Speaker 11: going to have to.

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Speaker 12: Do this because we think it's ridiculous.

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Speaker 11: So small businesses have a little bit of breathing room

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Speaker 11: now because the deadline was January first. The challenge Jesse

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Speaker 11: is that now the government has appealed this injunction. So

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Speaker 11: if the injunction is quote unquote stayed, which means it's

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Speaker 11: lifted or overturned, or if the scope is somehow narrowed

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Speaker 11: again just to the plaintiffs, that means that those penalties,

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Speaker 11: those egregious penalties for non compliance can be on the

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Speaker 11: table for millions of small business owners that don't want

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Speaker 11: to comply with something on constitution, and millions more that

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Speaker 11: don't even know that this exists.

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Speaker 2: Good freaking grief.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So is there good news on the horizon. This

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Speaker 1: thing is expiring, right, I mean, there's good news coming surely.

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Speaker 11: Well, the injunction was very good news because that means

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Speaker 11: for the time being, you don't have to file, but

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Speaker 11: it does mean you have to watch and make sure

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Speaker 11: it's not overturned.

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Speaker 12: What we're trying to do, those.

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Speaker 11: Of us in the small business community, and I've testified

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Speaker 11: in front of Congress about this. We have a lot

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Speaker 11: of entities, from the NFIB who was in that last lawsuit,

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Speaker 11: to the s Corps Association, and a whole bunch of

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Speaker 11: groups who are working really hard against this. We're trying

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Speaker 11: to get Congress to add at least a delay to

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Speaker 11: the Continuing Resolution to fund the government, so that maybe

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Speaker 11: we can get at least some time to have the

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Speaker 11: Trump administration look at this. The best thing that we

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Speaker 11: could have is the Trump administration come out and say

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Speaker 11: this is ridiculous because as Trump, by the way, vetoed

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Speaker 11: the original congressional authorization for this, and Congress overwrote his veto,

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Speaker 11: so he could come out and say we're not going

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Speaker 11: to enforce any penalties, and our treasury is going to

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Speaker 11: completely jettison this. That would be the most certainty for

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Speaker 11: small businesses. Because you know, big businesses are exempt, financial

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Speaker 11: services companies are exempt. Anyone who actually might potentially launder

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Speaker 11: money and be an issue as exempt. And this is

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Speaker 11: purely targeting small businesses. So we need for our thirty

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Speaker 11: four million small businesses in this country, we need some

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Speaker 11: certainty and clarity.

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Speaker 12: So either Congress can do this or the Trump.

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Speaker 11: Administration can do this, or both, but we need that

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Speaker 11: to happen. But if in the meantime, we if you

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Speaker 11: are a small business that is not sure if you

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Speaker 11: should file or not. I am personally not filing while

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Speaker 11: there is an injunction, but I'm keeping my.

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Speaker 12: Eye on the information on a daily basis.

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Speaker 1: Okay, let's talk really quickly, Carol, before I let you

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Speaker 1: go about the stock market.

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Speaker 2: It looks to be going well.

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Speaker 1: My finance guide tells me it's going well, and it's

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Speaker 1: looking even better. Is this the Trump effect? Is there

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Speaker 1: something else going on? What's going on?

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Speaker 11: So the stock markets had a crazy year. The S

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Speaker 11: and P five hundred to date is up I think

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Speaker 11: a little over thirty percent, So it's been on a tearm.

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Speaker 11: Particularly since Trump won. There has been a lot of optimism,

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Speaker 11: and that optimism is very self fulfilling, particularly as he

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Speaker 11: embraces AI, crypto technology, less regulation, more growth.

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Speaker 12: All of those things are very good. The biggest challenge that.

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Speaker 11: We have, particularly for old school folks like myself that

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Speaker 11: used to focus on things like valuations of companies, is

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Speaker 11: that there's something called the Warren Buffett indicator. It's a

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Speaker 11: measurement that Warren Buffett came in to find out if

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Speaker 11: stocks are overvalued. And this Buffet indicator takes the entire

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Speaker 11: market cap of the stock market to the GDP and

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Speaker 11: now it is at two times.

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Speaker 12: So the market is two times.

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Speaker 11: The value of the GDP of the US and that

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Speaker 11: is the highest level it has ever been in all

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Speaker 11: of history. So if you were in a normal situation,

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Speaker 11: you would say this is very overvalued. We're probably due

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Speaker 11: for some sort of a pullback and then maybe you know,

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Speaker 11: a continued upward trend from there. But you know, we

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Speaker 11: are in this era where fiat currency and all the

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Speaker 11: spending and all the shenanigans have kind of disrupted what

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Speaker 11: it means to have valuations and common sense, and so

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Speaker 11: it's hard for us to really wrap our heads around it.

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Speaker 12: But it's definitely an interesting time.

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Speaker 11: At the same time that we have the buffet indicator

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Speaker 11: saying that, you know, it's kind of flashing a warning sign.

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Speaker 11: Consumer sentiment about the stock market is at the highest

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Speaker 11: level in forty years.

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Speaker 12: So you could say that's a great thing, or you

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Speaker 12: could say, oh no.

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Speaker 11: By the time it comes down to you know, my

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Speaker 11: taxi or uber driver, you know, maybe we're at the

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Speaker 11: top of a cycle. But you know, I do think

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Speaker 11: that it's we're probably due for some sort of a pullback,

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Speaker 11: a correction, but then probably a continued lift from there.

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Speaker 11: The biggest issue is that inflation is eating up a

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Speaker 11: lot of those of those gains, so we see the

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Speaker 11: thirty percent, but when you start to adjust that for inflation,

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Speaker 11: it doesn't look quite as great.

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Speaker 12: But you need to be invested in order to keep

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Speaker 12: pace with it.

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Speaker 1: Of course they give it and they take it away. Carol,

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Speaker 1: thank you, ma'am. As always, I appreciate you. All right,

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Speaker 1: the drones, it's not going away. What's going on? Well,

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Speaker 1: let's talk to Ross Kennedy about that next. He always

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Speaker 1: knows what's going on. Before we get to Ross, let's

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Speaker 13: There's no question that people are seeing drones. And I

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Speaker 13: want to assure the American public that we in the

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Speaker 13: federal government have deployed additional resources, personnel technology to assist

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Speaker 13: the New Jersey State Police in addressing the drone sightings.

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Speaker 13: And in September of twenty twenty three, the Federal Aviation

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Speaker 13: Administration the FAA change the rules so that drones could

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Speaker 13: fly at night, and that may be one of the

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Speaker 13: reasons why now people are seeing more drones than they

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Speaker 13: did before, especially from dawn to dusk. And it is critical,

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Speaker 13: as we all have said for a number of years,

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Speaker 13: that we need from Congress additional authorities to address the

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Speaker 13: drone situation. Our authorities currently are limited and they are

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Speaker 13: set to expire. We need them extended and expanded.

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, well, not clarified, Absolutely nothing. So what is

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Speaker 1: going on in New Jersey besides the normal people doing

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Speaker 1: New Jersey things? Are they Aliens? Is it Iranians? Is

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Speaker 1: it the CIA? Have we been knoked? What is going on?

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Speaker 1: I doubt any of those things are true, and maybe

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Speaker 1: all of them are true.

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Speaker 2: Ross will set us straight.

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Speaker 1: Joining me now, founder of Fortist Analysis, my friend Ross

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Speaker 1: Kennedy knows more about supply chains and stuff like that

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Speaker 1: than I will ever know. Okay, Ross, we don't traffic

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Speaker 1: and nutball things on the show. We try to just

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Speaker 1: focus on facts here. As you well know, you always

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Speaker 1: straighten us out what is going on in New Jersey?

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Speaker 14: Well, I think you've got you know, what started as

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Speaker 14: a you know, interesting unusual you know video somewhere of

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Speaker 14: things somebody didn't know how to identify. You know, a

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Speaker 14: book was written in the seventeen hundreds, eighteen hundreds, you know, Tulamania,

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Speaker 14: The Madness of Crowds, and it talks about the the

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Speaker 14: phenomenon of cultural and mass panic or you know, madness

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Speaker 14: type of events, you know, Ponzi schemes, market runs, things

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Speaker 14: like that. And really all we've done as humans is

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Speaker 14: we haven't really updated our understanding of how the world works,

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Speaker 14: or our ability to rationalize things we don't understand. We've

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Speaker 14: just simply accelerated our ability to share.

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Speaker 2: Things that induce panic.

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Speaker 14: Almost every one of these videos that's come out shows

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Speaker 14: very clearly FAA regulated marked navigational lights and anti collision lights.

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Speaker 14: You've got green on one wing, right on another, wide

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Speaker 14: on the tail, and so it's very clear that whatever

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Speaker 14: these are, they're not trying to hide. They're operating in

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Speaker 14: pretty clear line of sight. But the shape of them

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Speaker 14: or the orientation of them is confusing to people because

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Speaker 14: they don't really know what we have. They don't know

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Speaker 14: that we have drones that can, you know, take off

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Speaker 14: very quickly, they can hover. Some that are rotary styles,

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Speaker 14: some that are more conventional you know, fixed wing types,

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Speaker 14: or that are propeller driven that look more like regular aircraft.

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Speaker 14: Some that are hybrid, you know, like the V twenty

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Speaker 14: two Osprey, you know, as a marine something you might

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Speaker 14: know about, you know, a tilt rotor. They can change

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Speaker 14: its orientation and flight. And some of these videos are

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Speaker 14: just garden variety aircraft doing aircraft things. But we live

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Speaker 14: in an age of social media and mass media induced panic.

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Speaker 14: There's a more interesting question of if they are government

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Speaker 14: drones and not just people spreading crazy things, what are

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Speaker 14: they doing up there? Why are they operating so visibly

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Speaker 14: in a way that you know, there's just a density

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Speaker 14: of these sightings that are happening that's non typical, And

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Speaker 14: that's maybe even the more interesting question than just what

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Speaker 14: are they? What are they? They're very clearly, you know,

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Speaker 14: terrestrial based, you know, flying machines for lack.

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Speaker 2: Of a better term. But they're not aliens. They're not

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Speaker 2: UAPs or anything like that.

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Speaker 14: The question is not so much the what it's it's

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Speaker 14: more the why or the timing.

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Speaker 2: Dang it, I really wanted them to be aliens, and

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Speaker 2: I did, love I do.

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Speaker 10: I don't know how you knew.

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Speaker 1: I am an ospray fan, although if I remember, it

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Speaker 1: was a real, real fuel guzzler.

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Speaker 2: And that was a big problem. Okay, So.

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Speaker 1: If it is our government, and forgive me, but I'm

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Speaker 1: assuming it is our government, what isn't already a commercial

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Speaker 1: airliner or whatnot, because there's a lot of confusion out there.

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Speaker 1: If it is our government, doesn't it seem like maybe

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Speaker 1: they're looking for something? Would that make sense for us?

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Speaker 1: Maybe they just lost something it happens. I mean, our

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Speaker 1: government has lost nuclear weapons.

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Speaker 2: Before it happens. Did you think they maybe lost something?

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Speaker 14: Well, I think you've got two scenarios here. In a

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Speaker 14: third scenario that's really a combination of the two. The

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Speaker 14: fact that these can fully operate in the dark because

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Speaker 14: of their hyperspectual cameras, because of very advanced avionics systems.

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Speaker 14: Even the ones that are more autonomous in nature versus

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Speaker 14: you know, fully manned type of platforms like a predator.

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Speaker 2: Or a reaper drone.

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Speaker 14: The fact that they're running lights on, the fact that

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Speaker 14: they're operating over civilian areas where camera phones are very

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Speaker 14: much a thing, and the fact that they're saying nothing

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Speaker 14: indicates that it's really, you know, really could only be

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Speaker 14: one of three things. Number one is that it's a test.

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Speaker 14: You know, trust us were from the government, We're here

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Speaker 14: to help. Is not really a viable answer. And that's

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Speaker 14: kind of what we're getting from the majorcases or the

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Speaker 14: John Kirbys of the world, is you know, and it's

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Speaker 14: the reason Trump is leaning into this.

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Speaker 2: As you guys are causing panics. Something is going on, you've.

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Speaker 14: Got to be honest about it or to some degree. So,

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Speaker 14: if we are testing capabilities, you could be testing any

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Speaker 14: number of things. You know, you could have a live

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Speaker 14: material that you're training these things if they're autonomous or

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Speaker 14: semi autonomous in nature to be able to detect and follow,

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Speaker 14: to interoperate with each other, but they're also going to

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Speaker 14: have to be responsive. It an actual information gathering scenario

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Speaker 14: overseas and supportive troops or in any sort of scenario

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Speaker 14: where they have to be deployed for real. These things

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Speaker 14: will often have the ability to swarm or do leader follower,

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Speaker 14: so you have to train them in a dynamic information

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Speaker 14: environment where people aren't changing their reactions to knowing that

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Speaker 14: these are a certain thing and don't worry about it.

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Speaker 14: Pattern of life is a part of the training set

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Speaker 14: for these types of things and for the operators.

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Speaker 2: How do people respond to the unknown or the unexpected.

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Speaker 14: So you take all that data in and you can

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Speaker 14: build better mission plans around the use of these platforms

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Speaker 14: and where and how they're operated, launched, maintained.

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Speaker 2: Scenario two. Besides, this is a.

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Speaker 14: Test, you know, sort of a live fire test if

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Speaker 14: you will, over the US Population Center, which is kind

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Speaker 14: of irresponsible, but I do get it. The second scenario

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Speaker 14: is there is a rogue thing.

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Speaker 2: On the loose.

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Speaker 14: You know, drones are not just for finding people, which

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Speaker 14: is kind of how most famously we use them as

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Speaker 14: to find people in vehicles. But a lot of these

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Speaker 14: types of drones that are out there, whether they're fully

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Speaker 14: publicly disclosed and they're kind of hinted at, they do

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Speaker 14: have sea Bernie sensors on them. Some of them do

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Speaker 14: that's your chemical, biological, radiological, nuclear, and explosives detection. It

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Speaker 14: would make an awful lot of sense that these are

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Speaker 14: drones that are more oriented towards homeland defense that are

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Speaker 14: either being tested or there is a situation that for

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Speaker 14: obvious reasons a national security cannot be talked about. And

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Speaker 14: the third scenario is something akin to it's a test,

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Speaker 14: but it's an actual, real test because there is a

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Speaker 14: real situation. But we're gonna call it a test again,

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Speaker 14: a thing that has been done numerous times is concealing

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Speaker 14: actual activity behind the veil of testing.

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Speaker 2: Ross. Your hair looks fantastic. I have to tell you,

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Speaker 2: it looks beautiful. I appreciate Thank you.

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Speaker 1: My brother, look at us, Thank you, my brother. That

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Speaker 1: was extremely helpful. As always, I appreciate you. All right,

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Speaker 1: light in the mood next, all right, it is time

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Speaker 1: to lighten the mood. And I'm not even sure if

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Speaker 1: this does lighten my mood. You see Katanji Brown Jackson,

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Speaker 1: the Dei hire who sits on Scotus because as Joe

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Speaker 1: Biden announced that he would only pick a woman and

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Speaker 1: a black woman. So now he went looking and he

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Speaker 1: found one. And she's a complete Nutball and she has

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Speaker 1: a lifelong dream of performing in a Broadway play, and surprise, surprise,

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Speaker 1: she found some gay up version of Romeo and Juliet

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Speaker 1: where she plays a he. She them, I swear on

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Speaker 1: my life, I'm not making that up, and we have

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Speaker 1: the video of her performance.

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Speaker 12: Female Empowerment Sick.

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Speaker 2: I like it too.

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Speaker 7: I think what I like about it is that I

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Speaker 7: am having a very strongly negative reaction to it, like

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Speaker 7: I hate it.

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Speaker 9: Which makes me think it must be brilliant.

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Speaker 1: In gives out the feeling in the Bond kids out.

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Speaker 12: The I did it, I made it to Broadway.

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Speaker 2: I'll see them mhm