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<v Speaker 1>Guess what, mango? What's that? Will? All right? You know

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<v Speaker 1>how I love a good list, and especially when these

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<v Speaker 1>lists are about records. While I was looking over the

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<v Speaker 1>list of the world's oldest living people, and I stumbled

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<v Speaker 1>into this story of Jean Louise Coleman, and she was

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<v Speaker 1>the oldest living person on record until she died in

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<v Speaker 1>at a hundred and twenty two years and a hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and sixty four days old old. That's crazy, and it

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<v Speaker 1>was so much fun to read about her life. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>she had this really active lifestyle. She enjoyed swimming, playing tennis, cycling.

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<v Speaker 1>She decided to start fencing at the age of eighty five,

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<v Speaker 1>and in fact, she rode her bike until she turned

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<v Speaker 1>a full century old. That's incredible. Yeah, and she didn't

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<v Speaker 1>slow down much after that, so she decided to let

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<v Speaker 1>her artistic talent shine after turning a hundred. She was

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<v Speaker 1>a hundred and fourteen when she made an appearance in

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<v Speaker 1>the movie Vincent and Me, and that made her the

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<v Speaker 1>oldest actress to appear in emotion picture. Then, when she

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<v Speaker 1>was a hundred and twenty, one of four track CD

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<v Speaker 1>titled Times Mistress was released. This was a rap album

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<v Speaker 1>with Kelmen speaking over it. So she obviously lived this

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<v Speaker 1>very active and engaging life. But you want to know

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<v Speaker 1>the real reason I think she made it to a

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and twenty two. She stopped smoking when she was

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<v Speaker 1>a hundred and sixteen, after ninety six years of sucking

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<v Speaker 1>down cigarettes. That's so strange. And obviously cigarettes are one

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<v Speaker 1>of the things that are most consistently linked in earlier death.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's that's doubly crazy, right right, it really is.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, while it's certainly a bizarre case, there's

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<v Speaker 1>some really fascinating findings in the world of science that

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<v Speaker 1>are helping us understand why certain people live longer. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's what we're going to talk about today. So let's

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<v Speaker 1>get started. Hey, their podcast listeners, welcome to Part Time Genius.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Will Pearson and as always I'm joined by my

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<v Speaker 1>good friend man guest Ticketer, and today we're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>the latest research around longevity, that is, how to live

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<v Speaker 1>a super long time now, Mango. In one of our

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<v Speaker 1>earlier episodes, we talked about cryonics, you know, this effort

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<v Speaker 1>to freeze our bodies after we die, all in the

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<v Speaker 1>hopes that science will advance enough in the coming centuries

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<v Speaker 1>to be able to bring us back to life. And

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<v Speaker 1>if I remember correctly, you made it pretty clear this

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<v Speaker 1>was not something you're a fan of. You'd rather just

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<v Speaker 1>try to live longer while you're still alive the first

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<v Speaker 1>time around, right, And I totally stand by that feeling.

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<v Speaker 1>So first off, you know, I hate the cold. There's

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<v Speaker 1>no way I want to be shoved upside down into

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<v Speaker 1>a freezer. And and also I would so much rather

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<v Speaker 1>just live longer and healthier than than you've woken up

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<v Speaker 1>like two years from now. Yeah, well that's what we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna talk about today, and so we'll dive into the

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<v Speaker 1>latest research on the obvious stuff, whether that's exercise and

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<v Speaker 1>diet and all of those things, and and then some

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<v Speaker 1>of the surprising. And we've got a couple of great

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<v Speaker 1>guests on today, that's right. So one of them is

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<v Speaker 1>a total superstar to me, and I'm a little surprised

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<v Speaker 1>that we managed to get her on the program. Any

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<v Speaker 1>listeners who heard the original trailer for the show will

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<v Speaker 1>also be familiar with your ninety year old grandmother, Mama. Mama,

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<v Speaker 1>I know, and so Mamma is going to share some

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<v Speaker 1>of her tips on how she's managed to reach ninety

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<v Speaker 1>and be in better shape than either of us. And

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<v Speaker 1>we'll also be joined by Howard Friedman. He's this professor

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<v Speaker 1>and psychologist at the University of California Riverside. Friedman co

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<v Speaker 1>authored a book called The Longevity Project a few years back,

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<v Speaker 1>which followed an incredible eight decades study about the various

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<v Speaker 1>psychological factors that contribute to how long people live. It's

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<v Speaker 1>this really fascinating book, and I'm excited to hear some

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<v Speaker 1>of those updates and uh, talk to Howard. So two

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<v Speaker 1>great guests. Yeah, I can't wait to get both of

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<v Speaker 1>them on the line. So all right, well let's talk

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<v Speaker 1>about longevity. You know, when we were young, if you

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned someone had lived to be a hundred, it just

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<v Speaker 1>seemed incredible, almost impossible. And it is incredible, I know.

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<v Speaker 1>So when I was younger, I used to tell people

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<v Speaker 1>that my great grandma lived to a hundred and three,

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<v Speaker 1>and no one believed me, and I just kind of

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<v Speaker 1>took it for granted that people live at But when

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<v Speaker 1>I think about it now, I don't even understand how

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<v Speaker 1>that's possible. What's even more incredible than that is that

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<v Speaker 1>some researchers predict that half the baby is born in

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<v Speaker 1>wealthy countries after the year two thousand will live to

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<v Speaker 1>be a hundred. Half of these people, Yeah, that's unreal.

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<v Speaker 1>But I did see in a research that life expectancy

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<v Speaker 1>has been going up by nearly three months every year

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<v Speaker 1>for nearly a hundred eighty years now. And while there's

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<v Speaker 1>certainly no guarantee that the trend will continue, if it does,

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<v Speaker 1>that's where your stat really starts to click. Like I

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<v Speaker 1>read that if those numbers continue, more than half the

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<v Speaker 1>baby is born since two thousand will hit triple digits. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>and there have been so many studies done to try

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<v Speaker 1>to find some big clue or marker that lets us say, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>that's it, you know, that's why people are living this long,

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<v Speaker 1>But so far they really haven't been able to find one,

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<v Speaker 1>even for these supercentenarians. These are those incredible cases where

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<v Speaker 1>people live more than a hundred and ten years. I know.

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<v Speaker 1>So I used to read tips from old people on

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<v Speaker 1>living longer, and they see things like, uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>too much standing will kill you, or too much sitting,

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<v Speaker 1>or eat yogur but only the really sour yogurt, or

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<v Speaker 1>don't eat any dairy. I mean, everything is so conflicting,

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<v Speaker 1>And the clearest thing is that genetics obviously play a role,

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<v Speaker 1>so scientists haven't been able to figure out that like

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<v Speaker 1>one magic gene that helps people live to a hundred years.

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<v Speaker 1>But behavioral differences are something researchers know much more about

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<v Speaker 1>that we're going to talk about those, but before we

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<v Speaker 1>get into the big ones like diet and exercise, I'd

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<v Speaker 1>love to warm up a little and talk about some

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<v Speaker 1>of the surprising or interesting things that you were mentioning

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<v Speaker 1>from the research you found yesterday. All right, let's do that. Well, So,

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<v Speaker 1>so which which place do you want to start? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>what about the fact that work stress isn't nearly as

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<v Speaker 1>bad as uh as people think? Okay, well, that that

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<v Speaker 1>one actually surprised me. So we're not talking about people

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<v Speaker 1>who are miserable in their jobs. But you know, some stress,

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of stress, even consistent stress over doing

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<v Speaker 1>a good job or just being busy at work. That's

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<v Speaker 1>not going to kill you, or at least it's not

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<v Speaker 1>likely to. So we can ask Dr Freedman more about

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<v Speaker 1>this later. But the health benefits of hard work have

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<v Speaker 1>been found, and not only in young are workers, but

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<v Speaker 1>even in older people. So again, this was a little

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<v Speaker 1>surprising to me. And a certain level of stress often indicates,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, real engagement in their work, and these individuals

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<v Speaker 1>are usually more connected and happier than those co workers

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<v Speaker 1>who are not as engaged in what they're doing. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>wh which which makes a certain amount of sense to me,

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<v Speaker 1>like the pride you're taking and you know your commitment

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<v Speaker 1>to But but what about parenthood. I mean, people always

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<v Speaker 1>joke about kids taking years off their life, and it

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<v Speaker 1>seems like it would make sense if we found out

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<v Speaker 1>that being a parent made his die a little younger,

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<v Speaker 1>Like it's stressful to be a parent. They're all the

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<v Speaker 1>years of missleep and then the years of worrying about

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<v Speaker 1>those kids, and then they obviously cost a ton of money. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think you had some surprising facts for stressed

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<v Speaker 1>out parents. It turns out having kids may actually help

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<v Speaker 1>you live a little bit longer. I was reading about

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<v Speaker 1>this study out of Sweden, and these researchers looked at

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<v Speaker 1>over a million people in this study, So these were

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<v Speaker 1>people born in the early nineteen hundreds, and what the

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<v Speaker 1>study found was that those who had at least one

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<v Speaker 1>child were actually more likely to live longer. So for women,

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<v Speaker 1>it was a benefit of about a year and a half,

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<v Speaker 1>and for men it was almost two years. So I

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<v Speaker 1>lived with two tyrants. And if you'd asked me when

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<v Speaker 1>I had to toddler in the house two years ago,

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<v Speaker 1>I would have told you that that just can't be true.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, there's no coincidence that all my white hair

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<v Speaker 1>came in when I had kids. Yeah, I would have

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<v Speaker 1>said the same thing. And there's some other interesting elements

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<v Speaker 1>to the study as well. They found that there was

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<v Speaker 1>an even stronger link between parenthood and life expectancy for

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<v Speaker 1>those who weren't married. Yeah, so this is the part

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<v Speaker 1>where we tell all our single friends, like Sean Turner,

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<v Speaker 1>just go out there and have a kid. That'll solve

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<v Speaker 1>it all. Just just just go have a kid. But

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<v Speaker 1>this is where our biggest clue comes from. So it

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<v Speaker 1>suggests that these parents benefit from their adult children caring

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<v Speaker 1>for them and providing social support in their later years.

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<v Speaker 1>So you told me that yesterday. But I'm wondering, doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>matter if these parents have a boy or a girl. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>there were some earlier studies that it just had shown

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<v Speaker 1>that it was, you know, maybe more beneficial to have

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<v Speaker 1>a girl because adult daughters were more likely to be

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<v Speaker 1>helpful as their parents got older. But the more recent

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<v Speaker 1>studies have shown that it's it's pretty much equal to

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<v Speaker 1>whether you have a boy or a girl, which is

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<v Speaker 1>kind of relief. Okay, So another one that I I

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<v Speaker 1>guess isn't that shocking but is interesting to see confirmed

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<v Speaker 1>is the benefit of learning a second language and how

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<v Speaker 1>that can slow your brain from aging. Yeah, this one

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<v Speaker 1>is actually pretty cool. So you know, it's not a

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<v Speaker 1>new idea that knowing a second language might help keep

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<v Speaker 1>a mind sharp, but it's always been difficult in these

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<v Speaker 1>previous studies to try to separate out the benefits of

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<v Speaker 1>knowing a second language with you know, other contributors to this.

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<v Speaker 1>So that is until a recent study of hundreds of

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<v Speaker 1>Scottish people. And this was over a several decades span.

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<v Speaker 1>So this study tracked over a thousand people and at

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<v Speaker 1>the beginning of the study, all the participants were around

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<v Speaker 1>eleven years old, and all of them spoke only one language,

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<v Speaker 1>and that was English. Now, this was back in the

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen forties. So I've got to tell you, like, I

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<v Speaker 1>love studies like this that spans so many decades. It's

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<v Speaker 1>just amazing to me. Yeah, me too. And so you

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<v Speaker 1>can fast forward from there to over sixty years later

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<v Speaker 1>when all of them were in their seventies. And so

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<v Speaker 1>they managed to track down about eight hundred of these

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<v Speaker 1>original participants, and it just so turned out that that

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<v Speaker 1>a third of them had learned at least one more language.

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<v Speaker 1>So it really made for this pretty controlled study, huh.

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<v Speaker 1>And so what they find, well, they found that those

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<v Speaker 1>who picked up a second language scored better than they

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<v Speaker 1>would have expected when they looked back at their original scores,

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<v Speaker 1>and those that had not learned a new language performed

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<v Speaker 1>pretty much in line with what they had expected. So it's,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's pretty strong evidence that the additional language

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<v Speaker 1>actually helped them. And do you have any sense of why?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know, they can't be a d percent

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<v Speaker 1>certain as to why. But in thinking about what the

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<v Speaker 1>brain must do when speaking multiple languages, it has to

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<v Speaker 1>process words and both languages and then produce the appropriate

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<v Speaker 1>phrases and the right language. So I mean it is

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<v Speaker 1>some kind of a mental workout, all right. So one

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<v Speaker 1>more before we get to the big stuff. And this

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<v Speaker 1>one was totally shocked to me. And I think you said,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm going to paraphrase here, that the elderly, you

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<v Speaker 1>need to start taking massive bond kits every mooring just

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<v Speaker 1>to get smarter. I'm not sure that's exactly what I said,

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<v Speaker 1>but they're definitely some interesting studies around the use of

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<v Speaker 1>th HC, which is the active ingredient in cannabis. So

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<v Speaker 1>that's a little different than than what you've suggested here.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, over the years, many studies have pointed

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<v Speaker 1>to the fact that teenagers perform more poorly on memory

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<v Speaker 1>or attention tests when under the influence. But in some

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<v Speaker 1>recent studies of mice, when th HC is administered in

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<v Speaker 1>very controlled and very low doses to these elderly mice,

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<v Speaker 1>they found that these mice were able to perform certain

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<v Speaker 1>cognitive task at similar levels to those of mice that

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<v Speaker 1>were not given the substance. So this was not the

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<v Speaker 1>case when they were not given the th HC, which

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<v Speaker 1>is just crazy, and the response was very different in

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<v Speaker 1>the young mice. When they were given the THHC, they

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<v Speaker 1>actually performed much more poorly, which is which is just

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<v Speaker 1>super interesting to me. So I'm still a little baffled

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<v Speaker 1>by this idea of old people picking up this daily

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<v Speaker 1>marijuana have it, even if it's in like low doses,

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<v Speaker 1>But why does it keep younger. Well, they're focusing on

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<v Speaker 1>the endocannabinoid system, and this is what helps our bodies

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<v Speaker 1>deal with stress. So this is a system that begins

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<v Speaker 1>declining with age, but the THHC helps stimulate this system

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<v Speaker 1>and calm the mice down a little bit. So I'm

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<v Speaker 1>guessing they're gonna be trying this on people next Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and we do need to be clear yet again, this

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<v Speaker 1>does not mean that doctors are going to start prescribing

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<v Speaker 1>joints for the same benefit. Again, it's a very controlled

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<v Speaker 1>and low dosage to be administered, and so that's what

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<v Speaker 1>they're testing now, you know, to figure out how much

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<v Speaker 1>the benefit is and and at what age it's most beneficial. Okay, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I honestly feel like this changes everything. I know, Like

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<v Speaker 1>somehow we learned that being stressed at work is great,

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<v Speaker 1>being a parent, forcing yourself to learn Portuguese, and possibly

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<v Speaker 1>just possibly picking up a low dose pot habit in

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<v Speaker 1>your seventies or eighties, all of that's gonna extend your life.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right before we get to the Big East. Like

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<v Speaker 1>exercise and diet and the things that will definitely boost

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<v Speaker 1>your chances of living longer. Why don't we get them

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<v Speaker 1>on the line. All right, you better buckle up. How

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<v Speaker 1>does it feel to be ninety just like I did

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<v Speaker 1>when I was young? Yeah? Because I can do everything

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<v Speaker 1>I did when I was younger. Yeah, I love that.

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<v Speaker 1>I know you've always told us that we had to

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<v Speaker 1>stay active. Why don't you tell us a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>about you know, what you do to exercise and how

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<v Speaker 1>you stayed active all these years? Well? Right now, I

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<v Speaker 1>work with Mary Beth the trainer for three days a week,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I try to just go right on in

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<v Speaker 1>and swim. And you know what kind of swimmer I am.

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<v Speaker 1>I certified swimming structor for years and I'm still helping.

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<v Speaker 1>Always try them on boys that can't swim too well.

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<v Speaker 1>They can ride bicycles and and do all these others,

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<v Speaker 1>but they're not very good swimmers. So I helped the

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<v Speaker 1>police investigator and a senior from Sanford just lately they

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to swim. And how are you? I love how

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<v Speaker 1>many hobbies you have and and I always say you

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<v Speaker 1>play got point of fourteen? Then I'm played tennis and

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<v Speaker 1>then uh oh, model all my life. I'm modeled everywhere

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<v Speaker 1>in Birmingham. So that's a bunch of fun. And I

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<v Speaker 1>decided to want flyer planes. Well that was a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of fun. And my husband was in California and I

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<v Speaker 1>had come back, and I said, don't let him get

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<v Speaker 1>scared of this. Well he started flying and he got

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<v Speaker 1>his license and said, that's most funds they ever had

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<v Speaker 1>in his life. And the guy that taught me to

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<v Speaker 1>fly to help the blue angels in the thunderbird, So

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<v Speaker 1>he was pretty good. It was an Emery riddle, so

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<v Speaker 1>he was very good. Well, you've obviously stayed really really active.

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<v Speaker 1>I was also hoping you tell us a little bit about,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, about your healthy eating and what kinds of

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<v Speaker 1>things you try to do to stay healthy. On that side,

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<v Speaker 1>you need now Like today, while ago, I fisted some

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<v Speaker 1>chicken and some fruit, and then I keep Bold eggs

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<v Speaker 1>in the refrigerator because they're good to go. Grab one

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<v Speaker 1>out of the frigerator, get your Bold eggs. And then

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<v Speaker 1>this is like, oh, bait, you know, chicken out. Only

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<v Speaker 1>eat fried foods? You no, And I eat a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of fruits and vegetables and just be real careful what

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<v Speaker 1>I eat. Now, You've always told us, though that you

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<v Speaker 1>got to save a little bit of room every once

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<v Speaker 1>in a while for for a little tree. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm famous for banana putts. My grandson will now mind go,

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta make your banana. But we all in the

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<v Speaker 1>love those banana please man go. Yeah. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if you knew this, but when you know Michael Jordan

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<v Speaker 1>played for the Birmingham Barons when he played baseball in

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<v Speaker 1>the league for a couple of years, and Mama would

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<v Speaker 1>make Michael Jordan's bananas. Well, Michael Jordan was just a

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<v Speaker 1>or a sweet guide. Michael hit a home run when

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<v Speaker 1>my mother was ninety two. She went to the ball

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<v Speaker 1>game and she got to see if hit a home run.

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<v Speaker 1>So that was good. We'll tell us any any other

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<v Speaker 1>tips you might have about living a long, healthy life.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, I forgot to tell y'all. I was president

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<v Speaker 1>two years for the International Lady Polots. It's one of

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest organizations in the world. I am still a

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<v Speaker 1>member of him, and I meet with the ladies for

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<v Speaker 1>lunch and uh so we still see each other and

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<v Speaker 1>I like the volunteer And my favorite is Autism Society.

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<v Speaker 1>My little great grandson has autism and he's doing very well,

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<v Speaker 1>very well well that's great. Well, mamma, we uh we

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<v Speaker 1>we thought we would let you play a little quiz

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<v Speaker 1>with us if you if you don't mind, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, so mango, we're what's our quiz called today,

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<v Speaker 1>It's called did it happen in Mamma's lifetime? All right,

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<v Speaker 1>So we're gonna read you a thing, and you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have to tell us. We're gonna read you a statement,

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<v Speaker 1>and you're gonna have to tell us whether it happened

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<v Speaker 1>in your lifetime. Now, if it happened, if you're in

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<v Speaker 1>your lifetime, we want you to say, that sounds about right.

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<v Speaker 1>And if it did not happen in your lifetime, we

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<v Speaker 1>want you to say, I don't know about that. We

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<v Speaker 1>kind of use some of your phrases. All right, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>here we go, you ready, okay, all right? The invention

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<v Speaker 1>of shopping carts. Did it happen in mamma's lifetime? That

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<v Speaker 1>sounds about right? Is that true? Is she right? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>she's right. The shopping cart was invented by the owner

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<v Speaker 1>of the Humpty Dumpty grocery store in Okay. So Mamma's

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<v Speaker 1>one for one. Question number two. The invention of the

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<v Speaker 1>facts machine did it happen in your lifetime? I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know about it? Okay, is she right? Man? Yeah, she's right.

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<v Speaker 1>A fax machine was invented way back in eighteen forty

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<v Speaker 1>three by a Scottish inventor. It was actually called the

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<v Speaker 1>electronic printing telegraph. Okay, so she's got all right, I

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<v Speaker 1>got to study. Yeah, she's two out of two. Alright,

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<v Speaker 1>the next question, she got two left. Juicy fruit chewing gum?

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<v Speaker 1>Was this invented in your lifetime? I don't know about that,

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<v Speaker 1>but all right, so so is she right? Yeah, she's right.

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<v Speaker 1>Juicy fruit was introduced in eight and in case you

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<v Speaker 1>were wondering the juicy fruits to make up the flavor

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<v Speaker 1>of juicy fruit or lemon, apple, orange, and banana. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so mamma has gotten all three, right, So for the

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<v Speaker 1>last one, let's see if she can get a perfect score.

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<v Speaker 1>Chocolate chip cookies. Were they invented in your lifetime? If

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<v Speaker 1>you think so, you'll say that sounds about right, That

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<v Speaker 1>sounds about right. Yeah, four for four cookie, that's right?

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<v Speaker 1>Since so so so mango, mamma got four out of four.

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<v Speaker 1>So what she won today a whole lot of hugs

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<v Speaker 1>and kisses all right, would I have made a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of chocolate chip cookies. They're good. I agree. Thank you

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<v Speaker 1>so much for doing this with us today, and I

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<v Speaker 1>want you boys to be sweet and be good here.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, we will welcome back to part time genius.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Mango. Now that Mamma has inspired us to

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<v Speaker 1>live healthier and way more enthusiastically too. But let's let's

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<v Speaker 1>talk about the obvious reasons that we all know can

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<v Speaker 1>influence how long we live and what the latest science

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<v Speaker 1>has to say. All right, so do you want to

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<v Speaker 1>start with diet? Well, I hate to tell you this,

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<v Speaker 1>but it doesn't appear that the Raman restaurant downstairs is

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<v Speaker 1>the key to are living longer. Man. That is so good. Honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>if you guys are ever in Pond City Market, you'll

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<v Speaker 1>see us at that ram and bar wat much too much.

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<v Speaker 1>But I know you've done some reading on the latest

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<v Speaker 1>diet research and and what did you find? So you

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<v Speaker 1>know all the studies that I've looked at significant calorie

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<v Speaker 1>restriction and its relationship to a long healthy life. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's It's been a little while since I've seen at

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<v Speaker 1>some of these, but you know, I feel like I've

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<v Speaker 1>only seen ones that are about mice or worms or

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<v Speaker 1>some other small creatures. So to be honest, I really

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't sure how close we were to saying that this

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<v Speaker 1>would apply to humans. Well, lucky for you were one

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<v Speaker 1>step closer, because now we're talking primate alright, Lucky for me,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to restrict my calories. I saw a really

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<v Speaker 1>interesting story in your favorite magazine, New Scientists about how

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<v Speaker 1>a long running trial and a group of monkeys or

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<v Speaker 1>macoux specifically found that calorie restriction led to a longer life.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually it was about three years, and while that doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>seem that long, it's equivalent about nine human years. That

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<v Speaker 1>is pretty significant. I mean, I guess we can't assume

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<v Speaker 1>that would necessarily be nine years in humans. Yeah, but

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<v Speaker 1>I mean i'd also just take three extra years, right,

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<v Speaker 1>But some researchers are hopeful that as we better understand

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<v Speaker 1>what calorie restriction is doing, we might be able to

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<v Speaker 1>come up with better anti aging medicines. And the other

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<v Speaker 1>thing they found in some trials calorie restriction resulted in

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<v Speaker 1>lower rates of cancer and heart disease. Yeah, both both

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<v Speaker 1>good things obviously. And you know, as you're saying this,

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<v Speaker 1>I decided to google calorie restriction in humans, and I

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<v Speaker 1>see there's something called the calorie restriction Society. So obviously

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<v Speaker 1>there are people already subscribing to this and thinking about

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<v Speaker 1>it pretty seriously. Yeah, the New Scientists reporter Clara Wilson

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<v Speaker 1>talks about this group in our story. They're basically on

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<v Speaker 1>a permanent diet of around hundred two I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>about eighteen hundred calories per day as compared to the

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<v Speaker 1>usual recommendation of two thousand. In fact, there's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>a funny quote at the end of Claire's story, so

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<v Speaker 1>she says, quote until someone's used to it, the diet

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<v Speaker 1>involves planning every meal with precision, and side effects can

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<v Speaker 1>include feeling cold and reduced libido. And story, that's the

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<v Speaker 1>last line. I kind of wonder how many people had

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<v Speaker 1>the whole story, got all the way to that final

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<v Speaker 1>quote and they were like, Okay, I'm out. I can't

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<v Speaker 1>do this. But it is interesting and it does seem

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<v Speaker 1>like science is starting to point us in the direction

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<v Speaker 1>of calorie restriction being beneficial to humans, So it will

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<v Speaker 1>be interesting to watch where this goes. Yeah, so there

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<v Speaker 1>was this interesting thing that A. J. Jacob's our friend

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<v Speaker 1>wrote a while back where he was talking about visiting

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<v Speaker 1>some folks from the calorie restriction Society, and they basically

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<v Speaker 1>meditate on each piece of food. They like slowly meditate

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<v Speaker 1>on it to savor it. And they show him how

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<v Speaker 1>to eat a single blueberry, and first they smell it,

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<v Speaker 1>then they think about how delicious it's going to taste

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<v Speaker 1>from the scent of it, and how it's going to

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<v Speaker 1>feel in their mouth, and then they put it in

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<v Speaker 1>their mouth, but tell him not to bite until he's ready.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like tantric eating sounds like a Portland sketch, and

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<v Speaker 1>all he wants to do is bite, but they tell

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<v Speaker 1>him to consider the blueberry skin and the texture and

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<v Speaker 1>the tannins and savor every little segment of the fruit.

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<v Speaker 1>Is it burst full of flavor in his mouth? And

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<v Speaker 1>then he's supposed to chew it way more than you're

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to choose, something like forty times of side or something.

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<v Speaker 1>And they literally spend like fifteen minutes on the blueberry.

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<v Speaker 1>That just seems like way too much work. I know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd wolfed down two cartons and blueberries in that time.

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<v Speaker 1>But supposedly when you slow yourself down and eating your

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<v Speaker 1>head catches up and realizes you're fuller than you think.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, So there are obviously lots of other food

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<v Speaker 1>related studies, and you know, showing what we should and

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<v Speaker 1>shouldn't eat. And so what else did you find in

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<v Speaker 1>your research? Well, beyond the usual it's healthy to eat

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<v Speaker 1>fruits and vegetables mantra, which apparently, I'm happy to report,

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<v Speaker 1>is still healthy to do. It is interesting to see

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<v Speaker 1>the studies on populations around the world that lived the longest.

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<v Speaker 1>So in most of those you'll find people getting more

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<v Speaker 1>than their food from plants. So you think about fruits

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<v Speaker 1>or veggies, whole grains and beans, and and of course

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<v Speaker 1>you know leafy greens, which are obviously important, maybe the

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<v Speaker 1>most important. So multiple studies have shown that eating a

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<v Speaker 1>cup of cooked greens every single day significantly reduced the

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<v Speaker 1>likelihood that someone in the middle age would die in

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<v Speaker 1>the next four years. I don't know what daily leafy greens.

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<v Speaker 1>That seems a little excessive, though, So where do where

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<v Speaker 1>do biscuits fit into this? All right? Give me the

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<v Speaker 1>rundown on the rest. I know I've been waiting for

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<v Speaker 1>that all biscuit diet to come out, so but until

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<v Speaker 1>it does, here's what we do now. So one study

0:23:13.720 --> 0:23:16.800
<v Speaker 1>which followed nearly a hundred thousand Americans since two thousand two,

0:23:17.119 --> 0:23:19.280
<v Speaker 1>the ones who lived the longest were those who followed

0:23:19.280 --> 0:23:21.520
<v Speaker 1>a plant based diet and had a small portion of

0:23:21.520 --> 0:23:24.320
<v Speaker 1>fish a handful of times per week. And then the

0:23:24.320 --> 0:23:27.000
<v Speaker 1>next thing is eggs. While they're good for us, we

0:23:27.080 --> 0:23:28.919
<v Speaker 1>might be overdoing it on the number of eggs we

0:23:28.960 --> 0:23:31.119
<v Speaker 1>eat at a time, so we should probably be aiming

0:23:31.119 --> 0:23:33.560
<v Speaker 1>for more like three a week. Three a week. It's

0:23:33.600 --> 0:23:37.560
<v Speaker 1>like a meal. So we should all eat half a

0:23:37.600 --> 0:23:40.720
<v Speaker 1>cup of cooked beans each day, and a couple of

0:23:40.760 --> 0:23:43.600
<v Speaker 1>handfuls of nuts per day. And of course, uh, we

0:23:43.640 --> 0:23:45.760
<v Speaker 1>eat way too much sugar. I feel like I could

0:23:45.760 --> 0:23:47.720
<v Speaker 1>do most of those. The challenge I think for me

0:23:47.800 --> 0:23:49.760
<v Speaker 1>would be with nuts. When they say they're healthy to

0:23:49.800 --> 0:23:52.000
<v Speaker 1>eat like, I eat them by the handfuls, So I

0:23:52.000 --> 0:23:54.040
<v Speaker 1>think it'd be tough to pull that off. All right,

0:23:54.119 --> 0:23:57.680
<v Speaker 1>So what's the latest on drinking. I'm I'm still gonna

0:23:57.720 --> 0:24:00.280
<v Speaker 1>stand by the two thousand ten study from the Journal

0:24:00.320 --> 0:24:03.680
<v Speaker 1>of the American College of Cardiology, which just sounds so efficient,

0:24:03.960 --> 0:24:07.760
<v Speaker 1>very official, whatever they say, So that studies showed the

0:24:07.800 --> 0:24:10.560
<v Speaker 1>benefits of light daily drinking, which means one drink for

0:24:10.600 --> 0:24:13.560
<v Speaker 1>women and two for men, with red wine being the winner.

0:24:13.920 --> 0:24:16.719
<v Speaker 1>All right, so we've got nuts, beans, greens, and red wine,

0:24:16.840 --> 0:24:19.119
<v Speaker 1>but not too much. Got it? All right, I'm going

0:24:19.160 --> 0:24:20.800
<v Speaker 1>to be healthier from here on out. So let's let's

0:24:20.840 --> 0:24:23.639
<v Speaker 1>talk about exercise now. And again, we know that exercise

0:24:23.720 --> 0:24:26.119
<v Speaker 1>is important, that's nothing new, but let's look at what

0:24:26.160 --> 0:24:29.000
<v Speaker 1>the latest research shows and and particularly the latest on

0:24:29.040 --> 0:24:32.439
<v Speaker 1>what seems to slow down our bodies decline. Well, you

0:24:32.480 --> 0:24:34.920
<v Speaker 1>were telling you earlier this week about the studies on HIT.

0:24:35.160 --> 0:24:38.399
<v Speaker 1>That's high intensity interval training. That's right, Yeah, there's definitely

0:24:38.440 --> 0:24:41.080
<v Speaker 1>been some really interesting research on this. So so high

0:24:41.080 --> 0:24:44.160
<v Speaker 1>intensity interval training is when you exercise with the short

0:24:44.240 --> 0:24:47.440
<v Speaker 1>burst of intense activity is the name suggests, and then

0:24:47.480 --> 0:24:49.840
<v Speaker 1>you add in these recovery periods where you have you know,

0:24:49.920 --> 0:24:53.440
<v Speaker 1>more more low intensity movement. So you mean like this

0:24:54.440 --> 0:24:58.000
<v Speaker 1>and uh and then like you got it? I like

0:24:58.040 --> 0:25:00.359
<v Speaker 1>how you knocked down that miniature Snickers bar up the table.

0:25:00.359 --> 0:25:02.120
<v Speaker 1>When you did that, you kind of killed two birds

0:25:02.160 --> 0:25:04.320
<v Speaker 1>with one stone there, Good job, all right, But one

0:25:04.359 --> 0:25:07.359
<v Speaker 1>study led led by sure Kumara and Naya at the

0:25:07.440 --> 0:25:10.920
<v Speaker 1>Mayo Clinic in Minnesota had two age ranges that they

0:25:10.920 --> 0:25:13.440
<v Speaker 1>were looking at, so he was looking at eighteen to

0:25:13.560 --> 0:25:16.080
<v Speaker 1>thirty year olds and then again at sixty five to

0:25:16.200 --> 0:25:18.920
<v Speaker 1>eight year olds. And with each of these ranges they

0:25:18.920 --> 0:25:22.520
<v Speaker 1>had them do three months of exercise. So some only

0:25:22.520 --> 0:25:25.440
<v Speaker 1>did interval training, sub did weight training, and some did

0:25:25.440 --> 0:25:27.959
<v Speaker 1>a combination of both. So I think we already gave

0:25:28.000 --> 0:25:30.640
<v Speaker 1>away the punchline on this, but what they find, we did.

0:25:30.680 --> 0:25:33.159
<v Speaker 1>But it is still really interesting to see what they found.

0:25:33.160 --> 0:25:35.520
<v Speaker 1>So they found that the interval training had the greatest

0:25:35.560 --> 0:25:38.840
<v Speaker 1>impact on the mitochondria and cells and their ability to

0:25:38.960 --> 0:25:41.800
<v Speaker 1>generate energy. And we're not talking about a small amount.

0:25:41.800 --> 0:25:44.919
<v Speaker 1>We're talking nearly seventy in the older group and just

0:25:45.040 --> 0:25:47.440
<v Speaker 1>shy of fifty in the younger group. I mean that's

0:25:47.440 --> 0:25:50.679
<v Speaker 1>pretty significant. Yeah, it is. And it's extra significant because

0:25:51.080 --> 0:25:54.639
<v Speaker 1>microchondrial activity is something we see declining as we get older,

0:25:54.880 --> 0:25:57.080
<v Speaker 1>which has an effect on our muscles. Yeah, and and

0:25:57.280 --> 0:25:59.920
<v Speaker 1>that decline was not only stopped for the older group,

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<v Speaker 1>but in some it was actually reversed. Here's what Nier

0:26:03.359 --> 0:26:06.359
<v Speaker 1>said about it. He said, after three months of interval training,

0:26:06.480 --> 0:26:09.919
<v Speaker 1>everything converged towards what we saw in young people. So

0:26:09.960 --> 0:26:12.640
<v Speaker 1>in addition to those benefits, the interval trainers also saw

0:26:12.720 --> 0:26:16.480
<v Speaker 1>benefits and their lungs, their hearts, their overall circulation. So

0:26:16.640 --> 0:26:19.920
<v Speaker 1>weight training is beneficial in building muscle mass, but that's

0:26:19.920 --> 0:26:22.719
<v Speaker 1>a different benefit from what we're talking about with our mitochondria, right,

0:26:22.920 --> 0:26:24.920
<v Speaker 1>And I'm glad you clarified that, And I'm also glad

0:26:24.920 --> 0:26:27.199
<v Speaker 1>that we're talking about exercise in general. You know, a

0:26:27.240 --> 0:26:29.480
<v Speaker 1>few episodes back, we were talking about the fact that

0:26:29.600 --> 0:26:32.840
<v Speaker 1>exercise doesn't have that much of an impact on our

0:26:32.880 --> 0:26:35.400
<v Speaker 1>attempt to lose weight, and I know we were both

0:26:35.440 --> 0:26:37.240
<v Speaker 1>a little bit nervous that some might take that to

0:26:37.280 --> 0:26:40.280
<v Speaker 1>mean that there was no reason to exercise, And obviously

0:26:40.440 --> 0:26:42.680
<v Speaker 1>that's not true. I mean, there's a ton of benefit

0:26:42.720 --> 0:26:46.640
<v Speaker 1>to exercising. It's incredibly important in helping us live longer

0:26:47.040 --> 0:26:49.920
<v Speaker 1>and healthier. And you know, there's so many studies, including

0:26:49.960 --> 0:26:52.119
<v Speaker 1>this one, that backed that up. There have been multiple

0:26:52.160 --> 0:26:55.520
<v Speaker 1>studies that shown regular high intensity interval training could add

0:26:55.560 --> 0:26:57.920
<v Speaker 1>years to a person's life. So, just to be clear

0:26:57.920 --> 0:27:01.840
<v Speaker 1>for our listeners, exercises goods, smoking not so much. Yeah,

0:27:02.040 --> 0:27:03.680
<v Speaker 1>we should have saved those gems for the fact of

0:27:03.800 --> 0:27:07.320
<v Speaker 1>thing of well, we've covered the bigg ease. So we

0:27:07.320 --> 0:27:09.840
<v Speaker 1>should also talk about the latest anti aging treatments and

0:27:09.880 --> 0:27:12.199
<v Speaker 1>what their futures look like. But before we do that,

0:27:12.320 --> 0:27:14.880
<v Speaker 1>let's talk about longevity and the Longevity Project with our

0:27:14.920 --> 0:27:17.560
<v Speaker 1>next guest. He's no mammal, but all right, let's get

0:27:17.640 --> 0:27:25.760
<v Speaker 1>him on. Our guest today is the distinguished Professor in

0:27:25.800 --> 0:27:29.280
<v Speaker 1>the Department of Psychology at the University of California, Riverside,

0:27:29.560 --> 0:27:31.560
<v Speaker 1>and we're talking to him today about his book, The

0:27:31.600 --> 0:27:36.040
<v Speaker 1>Longevity Project. Howard Friedman, Welcome to Part Time Genius. Thank

0:27:36.040 --> 0:27:38.880
<v Speaker 1>it's always great to talk about promoting health and long life. Well,

0:27:38.880 --> 0:27:40.919
<v Speaker 1>it's terrific. Well, it's great to have you on, you know,

0:27:40.960 --> 0:27:44.040
<v Speaker 1>and it's really interesting to to read about this more

0:27:44.080 --> 0:27:46.560
<v Speaker 1>than two decade long journey that you and your co

0:27:46.680 --> 0:27:49.720
<v Speaker 1>author Leslie Martin took as you were looking at all

0:27:49.720 --> 0:27:52.560
<v Speaker 1>of this interesting data, and it's it's not often that

0:27:52.640 --> 0:27:57.000
<v Speaker 1>you have access to data spanning over eighty years following

0:27:57.040 --> 0:27:59.680
<v Speaker 1>the you know, the health and wellness of over a

0:27:59.760 --> 0:28:02.720
<v Speaker 1>thou and different children and their their lifespan. But for

0:28:02.760 --> 0:28:06.239
<v Speaker 1>our listeners who aren't familiar with the Longevity Project and

0:28:06.240 --> 0:28:08.800
<v Speaker 1>the study that you guys have been looking at over

0:28:08.840 --> 0:28:10.720
<v Speaker 1>this period of time. Could you give just a brief

0:28:10.800 --> 0:28:13.639
<v Speaker 1>overview of what this project was all about. Ure, We

0:28:13.720 --> 0:28:17.479
<v Speaker 1>always want to understand what makes people happy and healthy

0:28:17.520 --> 0:28:20.240
<v Speaker 1>and live long over the long term. But it's hard

0:28:20.240 --> 0:28:22.199
<v Speaker 1>to do that. You have to follow a bunch of

0:28:22.200 --> 0:28:25.000
<v Speaker 1>people for their whole lives, and obviously we would be

0:28:25.040 --> 0:28:27.439
<v Speaker 1>long gone before we could complete the study like that.

0:28:27.600 --> 0:28:31.840
<v Speaker 1>So we were able to access some archival data from

0:28:31.840 --> 0:28:35.960
<v Speaker 1>a study that was started back in study of California

0:28:36.200 --> 0:28:38.520
<v Speaker 1>children who were about ten years old of the time,

0:28:39.080 --> 0:28:41.680
<v Speaker 1>and they were recruited by Professor lewis Terman and they

0:28:41.680 --> 0:28:44.200
<v Speaker 1>were followed every five to ten years ever since then.

0:28:44.240 --> 0:28:46.160
<v Speaker 1>We picked up the study now it's about twenty five

0:28:46.200 --> 0:28:48.560
<v Speaker 1>years ago, and we met some of the people and

0:28:48.640 --> 0:28:51.680
<v Speaker 1>followed some of the people and um we also um

0:28:51.840 --> 0:28:54.520
<v Speaker 1>gathered the death certificates on those who had passed away,

0:28:54.520 --> 0:28:57.840
<v Speaker 1>and so we know throughout their whole lives, what activities

0:28:57.880 --> 0:29:01.880
<v Speaker 1>people engaged in, everything about them and who lived long

0:29:01.960 --> 0:29:05.680
<v Speaker 1>and who who who died young stay happy, and who thrived. Yeah,

0:29:05.720 --> 0:29:08.200
<v Speaker 1>that's pretty amazing and so looking at all these factors

0:29:08.240 --> 0:29:12.320
<v Speaker 1>that contributed to either a long life or perhaps um

0:29:12.360 --> 0:29:14.360
<v Speaker 1>you know, dying at certain ages what what would you

0:29:14.400 --> 0:29:16.800
<v Speaker 1>say in doing these studies? Were some of the bigger

0:29:16.800 --> 0:29:19.520
<v Speaker 1>surprises coming out of the research. Well, one of the

0:29:19.560 --> 0:29:23.680
<v Speaker 1>most interesting things was that people who were very responsible

0:29:23.680 --> 0:29:27.000
<v Speaker 1>and conscientious, Um, they actually thrived throughout their lives and

0:29:27.240 --> 0:29:30.840
<v Speaker 1>they live happy lives. So we often think, well, why

0:29:31.080 --> 0:29:33.600
<v Speaker 1>why not just live it up? Um? But in fact,

0:29:34.000 --> 0:29:38.880
<v Speaker 1>the people who actually got involved with things had good marriages,

0:29:38.920 --> 0:29:42.640
<v Speaker 1>had good education, had good work, kind of the people

0:29:42.680 --> 0:29:44.600
<v Speaker 1>you would say are the responsible people in the world.

0:29:44.960 --> 0:29:47.800
<v Speaker 1>They actually became happier and happier as they as life

0:29:47.800 --> 0:29:50.480
<v Speaker 1>went on, and maybe also we stayed healthy and lived

0:29:50.480 --> 0:29:53.120
<v Speaker 1>a long time. So the book was published a few

0:29:53.200 --> 0:29:55.040
<v Speaker 1>years ago, and I was curious to hear if there

0:29:55.120 --> 0:29:59.400
<v Speaker 1>been any any new development since you guys published. Yes,

0:29:59.480 --> 0:30:02.560
<v Speaker 1>we used following the people. Um, there's only a few

0:30:02.600 --> 0:30:06.600
<v Speaker 1>still alive. One I went to his hundred and fourth birthday,

0:30:06.640 --> 0:30:10.080
<v Speaker 1>which was great. Uh. And he kind of lived a

0:30:10.120 --> 0:30:11.800
<v Speaker 1>lot of the kinds of things we talked about in

0:30:11.840 --> 0:30:15.640
<v Speaker 1>the Longevity project. He had a good marriage, important for men,

0:30:15.680 --> 0:30:19.200
<v Speaker 1>He was very conscientious. He they stayed working and more

0:30:19.240 --> 0:30:22.320
<v Speaker 1>and more researchers finding that people who stay involved keep

0:30:22.360 --> 0:30:25.480
<v Speaker 1>working take on new challenges to remain fresh and in

0:30:25.520 --> 0:30:28.320
<v Speaker 1>a moment. Those are key part of on long term

0:30:28.360 --> 0:30:31.760
<v Speaker 1>healthy patterns. So UM, it's these patterns that come first.

0:30:31.800 --> 0:30:35.120
<v Speaker 1>They lead to both health and happiness. UM. So so

0:30:35.160 --> 0:30:38.400
<v Speaker 1>that we're finding that the determined participants, the people we

0:30:38.400 --> 0:30:41.400
<v Speaker 1>were studying, they didn't really were very happy. UM, they

0:30:41.400 --> 0:30:43.240
<v Speaker 1>didn't live in the end of what we call m

0:30:43.240 --> 0:30:45.400
<v Speaker 1>I call you know, self esteem clinics and indulge in

0:30:45.480 --> 0:30:48.120
<v Speaker 1>parents and UM. It was the people who were out

0:30:48.120 --> 0:30:50.320
<v Speaker 1>there doing things, making the most out of their life.

0:30:50.360 --> 0:30:54.160
<v Speaker 1>So I'm talking more these days. We're finding support for

0:30:54.200 --> 0:30:57.680
<v Speaker 1>an idea which we sometimes call healthy neuroticism. So people

0:30:57.720 --> 0:31:02.160
<v Speaker 1>who were worrying, you always here, don't worry, take it easy. Stress.

0:31:02.200 --> 0:31:04.160
<v Speaker 1>But that turns out to be bad advice. I mean,

0:31:04.160 --> 0:31:06.640
<v Speaker 1>if if you're chronically stressed for years and years and

0:31:06.680 --> 0:31:09.640
<v Speaker 1>you can't sleep, that's bad. But for most people, if

0:31:09.640 --> 0:31:13.080
<v Speaker 1>you take on challenges, that's good. And in fact, the

0:31:13.080 --> 0:31:15.640
<v Speaker 1>participants regretted when they look back in the lives and

0:31:15.680 --> 0:31:17.960
<v Speaker 1>things they didn't do, not the things that they did do.

0:31:18.440 --> 0:31:21.960
<v Speaker 1>So people who get involved UM and and try things,

0:31:22.320 --> 0:31:24.800
<v Speaker 1>that's that's a kind of healthy curiosity, a healthy stress

0:31:24.880 --> 0:31:27.760
<v Speaker 1>that UM we're finding more and more can be important.

0:31:28.240 --> 0:31:31.680
<v Speaker 1>So rather than kind of fretting themselves to death, these

0:31:31.680 --> 0:31:35.640
<v Speaker 1>people were concerned enough to to keep themselves alive. In fact,

0:31:36.120 --> 0:31:38.360
<v Speaker 1>like you said, my co authors a lunge every project,

0:31:39.120 --> 0:31:41.920
<v Speaker 1>Doctor Leslie Martin, she she lives her life very much

0:31:41.960 --> 0:31:44.640
<v Speaker 1>like that. She was just in Uganda tracking the guerrillas

0:31:44.680 --> 0:31:47.479
<v Speaker 1>and she's always off somewhere. She ran across the Para desert.

0:31:48.560 --> 0:31:50.520
<v Speaker 1>So um, but you know, she's very healthy and happy.

0:31:50.520 --> 0:31:52.520
<v Speaker 1>And that that's typically what we found and it kind

0:31:52.560 --> 0:31:54.600
<v Speaker 1>of inspired both of us to do more of that,

0:31:54.640 --> 0:31:57.280
<v Speaker 1>just to stay active, stay involved. And so some of

0:31:57.320 --> 0:32:00.200
<v Speaker 1>those new findings are being confirmed by both ourselves and

0:32:00.320 --> 0:32:03.280
<v Speaker 1>by others as well. Yeah. That that's That's what I'm

0:32:03.320 --> 0:32:05.520
<v Speaker 1>curious to you about, was how how have you changed

0:32:05.520 --> 0:32:08.280
<v Speaker 1>your life since doing this project and understanding the learnings.

0:32:08.800 --> 0:32:10.800
<v Speaker 1>One of the other things is, um, you know, stay

0:32:10.880 --> 0:32:12.600
<v Speaker 1>stay active. So you don't have to be going to

0:32:12.640 --> 0:32:15.640
<v Speaker 1>the gym every day for hours and hours, but just

0:32:15.680 --> 0:32:17.600
<v Speaker 1>getting up and out of your chair is is very

0:32:17.640 --> 0:32:21.640
<v Speaker 1>important and so UM, we do a lot more of that. Um.

0:32:21.680 --> 0:32:23.520
<v Speaker 1>You know, I just if there's something to get up

0:32:23.520 --> 0:32:24.600
<v Speaker 1>and do, I just get up and do it. And

0:32:24.640 --> 0:32:26.240
<v Speaker 1>if I have to go down the stairs to get something,

0:32:26.240 --> 0:32:28.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't call down to somebody, you know, I go

0:32:28.040 --> 0:32:30.640
<v Speaker 1>down the stairs. But the other thing that's very important

0:32:30.680 --> 0:32:33.960
<v Speaker 1>that people can do is be um socially involved with

0:32:34.080 --> 0:32:36.800
<v Speaker 1>other healthy people. So you know, you know who your

0:32:36.800 --> 0:32:39.600
<v Speaker 1>friends are, who are basically good influences, who are doing

0:32:39.600 --> 0:32:43.080
<v Speaker 1>healthy things, doing productive things, doing worthwhile things, and then

0:32:44.400 --> 0:32:47.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, I really turned down invitations to associate with

0:32:47.200 --> 0:32:49.920
<v Speaker 1>those people. So that what's the one thing you could

0:32:49.920 --> 0:32:53.440
<v Speaker 1>do to live a happy and thriving and long life.

0:32:53.440 --> 0:32:56.720
<v Speaker 1>It would probably be to look around and so and

0:32:56.720 --> 0:32:59.440
<v Speaker 1>see who you're you're healthy and thriving friends are and

0:32:59.560 --> 0:33:02.240
<v Speaker 1>try to associate more with those. So that's that's a

0:33:02.320 --> 0:33:04.560
<v Speaker 1>kind of conscious change you could make. You know, am

0:33:04.560 --> 0:33:06.680
<v Speaker 1>I too busy? Or should I do this? And how

0:33:06.760 --> 0:33:08.840
<v Speaker 1>much more likely these days to say I'm gonna go

0:33:08.880 --> 0:33:11.760
<v Speaker 1>do that. Oh that's good, that's good, We're good for you. Well,

0:33:11.760 --> 0:33:15.240
<v Speaker 1>it's been so fascinating reading about this project and chatting

0:33:15.240 --> 0:33:17.440
<v Speaker 1>with you about this, So Dr Freeman, thanks so much

0:33:17.440 --> 0:33:31.440
<v Speaker 1>for joining us on Part Time Genius. Welcome back to

0:33:31.480 --> 0:33:34.680
<v Speaker 1>Part Time Genius. Now we've talked about diet and exercise.

0:33:34.760 --> 0:33:37.240
<v Speaker 1>But let's talk about the fortunes being invested in the

0:33:37.280 --> 0:33:40.200
<v Speaker 1>development of anti aging treatments. Yeah, now that we've managed

0:33:40.240 --> 0:33:43.600
<v Speaker 1>to extend the human lifespan significantly, researchers are focused on

0:33:43.640 --> 0:33:46.280
<v Speaker 1>how to improve that quality of longer life, and there

0:33:46.280 --> 0:33:49.400
<v Speaker 1>are several really interesting possibilities being explored. So I want

0:33:49.480 --> 0:33:51.840
<v Speaker 1>to talk about another New Scientist article we're looking at,

0:33:51.880 --> 0:33:54.160
<v Speaker 1>and this one's by Jessica hams Alu. Yeah, that's a

0:33:54.160 --> 0:33:55.800
<v Speaker 1>good call. So all right, Well, one of the first

0:33:55.840 --> 0:33:58.280
<v Speaker 1>treatments she talks about is that of the the young

0:33:58.400 --> 0:34:01.280
<v Speaker 1>blood plasma theory, and she writes about this she says,

0:34:01.680 --> 0:34:03.920
<v Speaker 1>the idea is that there's something in the blood of

0:34:03.960 --> 0:34:07.320
<v Speaker 1>people under twenty five that keeps them youthful, although we

0:34:07.400 --> 0:34:09.440
<v Speaker 1>don't yet know what it is. Yeah, they kind of

0:34:09.520 --> 0:34:11.960
<v Speaker 1>made fun of the tech billionaire obsession with this on

0:34:12.040 --> 0:34:15.080
<v Speaker 1>Silicon Valley and tech bulonaires having these blood boys on hand.

0:34:15.120 --> 0:34:17.680
<v Speaker 1>But in the studies they've done on older mice who

0:34:17.680 --> 0:34:20.560
<v Speaker 1>were injected with plasma from younger mice, the results were

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<v Speaker 1>strangely promising. Like they even tested the injection of plasma

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<v Speaker 1>from human teens into these older mice and both cases

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<v Speaker 1>the older mice end up more active and show fewer

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<v Speaker 1>signs of aging. Well, and that Silicon Valley show wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>wrong about this. I mean, while we're still lacking rigorous

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<v Speaker 1>clinical trials for what this will do for humans, it

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<v Speaker 1>hasn't stopped businesses from developing around these plasma transfusions. There's

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<v Speaker 1>even a company in California called Ambrosia and that you

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<v Speaker 1>can go there and you can get this young blood

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<v Speaker 1>plasma transfusion. You know, if you if you've just got

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<v Speaker 1>eight thousand dollars to spend on this, I mean, if

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<v Speaker 1>you knew this would work, I could actually see paying

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<v Speaker 1>for that, you know, But I think I made hold

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<v Speaker 1>off just a little bit. But still, according to the

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<v Speaker 1>company's founder, Jesse Carmazin, the people who have been treated

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<v Speaker 1>are already reporting benefits and cognition, muscle strength, and energy level.

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<v Speaker 1>But again, I mean that's an evangelist speaking. So we

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<v Speaker 1>need real clinical trials to be conducted before the verdicts out. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it'll be interesting to see what happens, all right. So

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<v Speaker 1>the next treatment Hanzlou covers is related to our telomeres. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I think we should pause for a minute remind our

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<v Speaker 1>listeners what telomeres are and buy our listeners. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>can can you remind me? So? Telomeres are our DNA protectors.

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<v Speaker 1>There are the caps at the end of chromosomes, and

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<v Speaker 1>and there's a strong correlation between the length of telomeres

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<v Speaker 1>and aging. So you know, like every every time a

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<v Speaker 1>cell divides, these caps shrink, and this process takes place

0:35:42.560 --> 0:35:46.680
<v Speaker 1>until there's simply too small to provide meaningful protection. And

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<v Speaker 1>after that the cells either die or they're significantly damaged,

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<v Speaker 1>and the cells around them can become damaged too. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>even before we start aging, those born with shorter telomeres

0:35:56.800 --> 0:35:59.600
<v Speaker 1>are are way more likely developed age related diseases at

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<v Speaker 1>younger ages. Nicely done, good description there, Mango, all right.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're starting to see more research on them and

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<v Speaker 1>from people like Maria Blastco. She's at the Spanish National

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<v Speaker 1>Cancer Research Center in Madrid, and her team has been

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<v Speaker 1>working on ways to extend telomeres and mice and and

0:36:14.840 --> 0:36:17.720
<v Speaker 1>they're doing this through gene therapy and they've been pretty

0:36:17.760 --> 0:36:19.680
<v Speaker 1>successful at what they're doing with some of these mice.

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<v Speaker 1>They've been able to extend their lives by as much

0:36:21.640 --> 0:36:25.879
<v Speaker 1>as that's crazy, So it's definitely fascinating, though there's still

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<v Speaker 1>a ton of work to be done and it's not

0:36:27.480 --> 0:36:29.800
<v Speaker 1>something that's really ready to be practiced on people yet.

0:36:29.920 --> 0:36:32.120
<v Speaker 1>So again that that that has not stopped a few

0:36:32.160 --> 0:36:35.440
<v Speaker 1>companies from introducing gene therapy treatments to you know, targeting

0:36:35.440 --> 0:36:38.239
<v Speaker 1>these telemeres. Yeah, it definitely hasn't. Some of them are

0:36:38.320 --> 0:36:41.560
<v Speaker 1>self reporting successful growth of telomeres and that patients feel

0:36:41.640 --> 0:36:45.200
<v Speaker 1>like twenty years younger. But again that's self reporting and

0:36:45.239 --> 0:36:47.799
<v Speaker 1>something I'd hold off on trusting. Yeah, me too, Me too.

0:36:47.840 --> 0:36:50.040
<v Speaker 1>Now we we should also talk about the services that

0:36:50.080 --> 0:36:53.719
<v Speaker 1>are being marketed that are less about anti aging treatments

0:36:53.760 --> 0:36:56.920
<v Speaker 1>and really more about better understanding our genome or our

0:36:57.040 --> 0:37:01.040
<v Speaker 1>microbiome through scans and blood tests and all these other evaluations.

0:37:01.440 --> 0:37:02.920
<v Speaker 1>So I guess the idea here is that if we

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<v Speaker 1>know a bit more about the underlying health issues we

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<v Speaker 1>might be developing or what we're at risk of, then

0:37:08.960 --> 0:37:11.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, we can begin working on an early treatment

0:37:11.680 --> 0:37:14.319
<v Speaker 1>or preventative efforts. But there was a quote from one

0:37:14.320 --> 0:37:16.279
<v Speaker 1>of the company's founders that I have to admit I

0:37:16.320 --> 0:37:20.000
<v Speaker 1>found pretty amusing. So Craig Ventor, the founder of a

0:37:20.040 --> 0:37:23.560
<v Speaker 1>company called Human Longevity, Inc. He got the results from

0:37:23.680 --> 0:37:27.840
<v Speaker 1>his company's twenty five tho dollar package. That's right. It

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<v Speaker 1>provided a genome sequencing and all this other information that

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<v Speaker 1>we talked about before and after seeing his results, he said, quote,

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<v Speaker 1>I've lost forty three pounds since finding out things about

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<v Speaker 1>my metabolic condition. Honestly, I'm not sure someone needs to

0:37:41.440 --> 0:37:43.640
<v Speaker 1>spend twenty five thou dollars to know that. If they

0:37:43.640 --> 0:37:46.000
<v Speaker 1>had forty three pounds to lose, they might want to

0:37:46.000 --> 0:37:48.719
<v Speaker 1>go ahead and do that. That said, I know we're

0:37:48.760 --> 0:37:51.279
<v Speaker 1>not mean spirited here. I'm speaking with the almost no

0:37:51.480 --> 0:37:53.879
<v Speaker 1>knowledge of his company, so I'm not saying that it's

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<v Speaker 1>not a valuable service. I just kind of found that

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<v Speaker 1>quote funny. So it's in the end, it sounds like

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<v Speaker 1>many of these treatments may be promising, but most of

0:38:02.120 --> 0:38:05.239
<v Speaker 1>them aren't quite ready for the masses. And even Hamslu

0:38:05.280 --> 0:38:08.160
<v Speaker 1>writes about this, until that time, your best options are

0:38:08.400 --> 0:38:11.640
<v Speaker 1>boring old diet and exercise. It's true, it's true. But

0:38:11.680 --> 0:38:13.759
<v Speaker 1>you know one thing that's not boring, Mango, the part

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<v Speaker 1>time genius bag. That's right. M okay, so I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>go first. Gat he's born in autumn are more likely

0:38:29.920 --> 0:38:32.120
<v Speaker 1>to hit a hundred than those born in another seasons.

0:38:32.960 --> 0:38:36.000
<v Speaker 1>All right, so let's talk about TV watching. TV watching

0:38:36.040 --> 0:38:38.640
<v Speaker 1>definitely appears to take a serious toll on our health.

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<v Speaker 1>There was a two thousand ten study that looked at

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<v Speaker 1>people watching more than four hours of TV per day,

0:38:44.000 --> 0:38:46.520
<v Speaker 1>and it found there were forty six percent more likely

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<v Speaker 1>to die from any cause than those who watch less

0:38:49.200 --> 0:38:52.080
<v Speaker 1>than two hours. Although while I'm reading this, I'm wondering

0:38:52.080 --> 0:38:54.319
<v Speaker 1>about the words any cause. I mean, it seems like

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<v Speaker 1>people watch TV all the time are less likely to

0:38:56.640 --> 0:38:58.680
<v Speaker 1>die from say like rock climbing or something like we're

0:38:58.719 --> 0:39:01.319
<v Speaker 1>elephant trampoline, right, what ever? It maybe, but still don't

0:39:01.400 --> 0:39:03.680
<v Speaker 1>watch so much TV if you want to live longer.

0:39:04.160 --> 0:39:07.000
<v Speaker 1>So one of the other benefits of aging, and this

0:39:07.040 --> 0:39:10.520
<v Speaker 1>is pretty interesting me is fewer migraines. Like one study

0:39:10.560 --> 0:39:12.880
<v Speaker 1>showed the only ten percent of women and five percent

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<v Speaker 1>of men over seventy report having migraines, or rather, if

0:39:16.600 --> 0:39:19.400
<v Speaker 1>they were having the migrants, they weren't they weren't accompanied

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<v Speaker 1>by headaches. Oh that's pretty good. That's all right, all right.

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<v Speaker 1>I was just looking at the list of the world's

0:39:23.600 --> 0:39:25.880
<v Speaker 1>oldest people again here I can't stop looking at this

0:39:25.920 --> 0:39:30.000
<v Speaker 1>list and the supercentenarians, which for obvious reasons, this list

0:39:30.040 --> 0:39:33.080
<v Speaker 1>has to be updated somewhat regularly, but as of this morning,

0:39:33.480 --> 0:39:35.960
<v Speaker 1>five of the ten oldest people in the world are

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<v Speaker 1>in Japan. Actually looking here at the top fifteen, seven

0:39:39.480 --> 0:39:42.359
<v Speaker 1>of the top fifteen or in Japan. I I do

0:39:42.480 --> 0:39:44.600
<v Speaker 1>kind of wonder if they're counting years differently there though.

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<v Speaker 1>Um So, here's one for the ladies, and specifically ladies

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<v Speaker 1>over eighty. So. Studies looking at sexual satisfaction by age

0:39:52.719 --> 0:39:55.320
<v Speaker 1>have shown that while the elderly may not have sex

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<v Speaker 1>as often as younger people, multiple studies have shown that

0:39:58.400 --> 0:40:01.839
<v Speaker 1>satisfaction increases with a In fact, the women over eighty

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<v Speaker 1>and one study report being much more satisfied during sex

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<v Speaker 1>than those were in the late fifty five to seventy

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<v Speaker 1>nine range. You know what, Mango, I don't think I

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<v Speaker 1>can top an octogenarian sex facts. So I'm gonna give

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<v Speaker 1>you the PTG fact Off Trophy this week. That's it

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