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Speaker 1: Hello Texans, and welcome don a program Mark vander mayor

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Speaker 1: John Harris with you. I've been out for a couple

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Speaker 1: been out working on the golf course, working rather working, Johnny.

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Speaker 1: It's very important stuff I had to do well. I

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Speaker 1: actually had my tournament the other day, so I appreciate you.

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Speaker 1: That's usually that's hugely important, no doubt about it. It's

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Speaker 1: important for junior achievement for the kids. It's a it's

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Speaker 1: a charity of empowerment and a whole bunch of other

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Speaker 1: great stuff. Volunteers in the classroom. They've got a thing

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Speaker 1: called Biztown where they teach kids about business. They run

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Speaker 1: a city basically. It's really cool. Anyway, that was Monday

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Speaker 1: at South Shore Harbor. I want to thank Insparity, SNH Manufacturing,

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Speaker 1: Ron Carter, so many sponsors to thank. That was something

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Speaker 1: I've been doing for a long time. I figured out

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Speaker 1: seventeenth year doing that tournament. Unbelievable and it was a

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Speaker 1: great day. And also yesterday we had a little Texans

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Speaker 1: gathering for a lot of our partners and lux members

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Speaker 1: and that was great just to see everybody. You know.

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Speaker 1: Last couple of days just seeing people out and about, uh,

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Speaker 1: we're coming out of COVID a bit. I know COVID

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Speaker 1: still exists, obviously, I'm not one of these conspiracy theorists.

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Speaker 1: It's just great to see people together again. And we're

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Speaker 1: in transition, aren't we. I was. I was watching the

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Speaker 1: Astros Johnny, and it was last night's game actually with

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Speaker 1: the Tigers in town. And in the early part of

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Speaker 1: the game, I thought I was looking at those Diamond

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Speaker 1: the Diamond club Actually sorry, but you know, certain like

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Speaker 1: the Crawford boxes. There's no COVID in the Crawford boxes

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Speaker 1: close to the close to the dugouts. It seems you

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Speaker 1: have those plexiglass shields up, but a lot of fans

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Speaker 1: are in there. And look, I think a lot of

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Speaker 1: this at some point is personal preference. And oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: people have been vaccinated. You've been double doosed, right, I have.

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Speaker 1: I am, I'm double vaccinated. Fact, we have Jeff capp On,

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Speaker 1: who's our ICO, which I'm trying to remember what ICO

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Speaker 1: Infection Coordinating Officer, I think is what it stands for. Anyhow,

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Speaker 1: So CAP's been sitting around, you know, emails like hey,

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Speaker 1: we're having a zoom meeting about vaccination. Were we're having

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Speaker 1: a zoom meeting about the vaccination for your family, potentially

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Speaker 1: you know, doctor Muntz is in there. I'm I can

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Speaker 1: learn something from this. And so I've gone in the

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Speaker 1: and just kind of learning what they know. Is it's

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Speaker 1: comforting in some sense to say, Okay, here's the medical

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Speaker 1: professional telling us, and two of them telling us, this

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Speaker 1: is what we should be thinking, this is how we

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Speaker 1: should go about this, this is how we we in

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Speaker 1: some sense you should feel about Johnson and Johnson. It's

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Speaker 1: like it's been very educational. And so last night it

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Speaker 1: there and Cap says, all right, Johnny, what's your questions.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, well, guys, in all honesty, I'm I've been vaccinated.

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Speaker 1: I'm done. My family's on their way. Everybody else has

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Speaker 1: got at least one shot. We're on a way to

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Speaker 1: get vaccinated. I said, I just want to thank you

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Speaker 1: guys for having this. I don't know how other companies

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Speaker 1: how that impacts you know, the offseason and who knows.

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Speaker 1: But just getting that information from you know, CAP and

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Speaker 1: getting that information to us and making sure that everybody

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Speaker 1: in the corporation, in the organization knows what they need

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Speaker 1: anything that you don't know, text them, call them. And

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Speaker 1: I think that's been really comforting, and I hope other

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Speaker 1: good for me and for us for sure. Yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 1: but also according to the league, the protocols, the union,

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Speaker 1: and along those lines. May twenty fourth is a big

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Speaker 1: I think everything's fluid, though, don't you feel that way

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Speaker 1: some additional information. Let's reconvene here. So we'll see where

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Speaker 1: that goes. But as far as the Texas, we haven't

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Speaker 1: I'm excited though. I really want to see them out there,

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Speaker 1: You know. I think for the fans and you know,

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Speaker 1: it marinate together. And obviously training camp is a whole

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Speaker 1: other story. Is that's the next phase. But don't you

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Speaker 1: something concrete to report right now. I used to love

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Speaker 1: same reason you're talking about, Mark, and that is you

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Speaker 1: work on some different things, you can experiment with some

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Speaker 1: You can experiment with them in different roles. You obviously

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Speaker 1: And I think it's a great period for the Vets

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Speaker 1: That'll be all virtual. But then you come in for

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Speaker 1: that point, but you can also do it even better.

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Speaker 1: to Matt Rule and said, hey, how was it meeting

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Speaker 1: and that would be really nice that around May ish twenty,

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Speaker 1: It's back to the stadium, right. That's how I always

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Speaker 1: and you know, God bless them. But this is my thing.

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Speaker 1: But the point is this. Every business has this right now,

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Speaker 1: is they bring people back? And to what degree did

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Speaker 1: they bring them back? And what Tredder said about yeah,

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Speaker 1: it'll be an entertaining product. You brought up a great

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Speaker 1: it would certainly help. It's not gonna hurt. Put it

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Speaker 1: that way, to get together if you could do it

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Speaker 1: without having guys, you know, to use the words safely

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Speaker 1: And again, as the vaccine rolls out, everything gets safer

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Speaker 1: wide receivers out the ten personnel putting for wide receivers out.

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Speaker 1: That's just the way the game is gone. And so

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Speaker 1: it's kind of you know, evolved into that. And if

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Speaker 1: you can't catch a cold, or you're a former NFL

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Speaker 1: defensive back son, that's when you go over to the

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Speaker 1: defensive backside, like Patrick certain number two, like he will

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Speaker 1: like he did. Elijah Molden from Washington, He's another one.

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Speaker 1: Jac Horn, Hey, Joe Horne was his dad. Joe Horne receiver.

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Speaker 1: Where did JC end up playing defensive back? And he's

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Speaker 1: one of the best ones. So wide receivers, there's gonna

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Speaker 1: come a point, kind of like in the Hall of

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Speaker 1: Fame discussions, where there's gonna be this bottleneck and then

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Speaker 1: you've got to find a different spot for some of

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Speaker 1: these guys to go. But I guy like jac Horne learned, was, hey,

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Speaker 1: I can go be a receiver and be a mid

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Speaker 1: level receiver or I might dimensions in my size, I

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Speaker 1: can go learn how to play defensive back. I can

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Speaker 1: gonna be a top twelve pick in his draft. So

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Speaker 1: we're gonna see a little bit of a seat change

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Speaker 1: at some point because there'd just be there's just such

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Speaker 1: a glott of wide receivers. Where what are you gonna

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Speaker 1: do with them? Where are they gonna go? Right now,

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Speaker 1: there's playing opportunity, But down the road you just gonna

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Speaker 1: get not enough spots. So players are gonna have to

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Speaker 1: go elsewhere and they're gonna have to take the Jac

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Speaker 1: hornpath that's down the road. Though. These receivers coming very

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Speaker 1: very good word association Joe Horn. What's the first thing

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Speaker 1: that comes up on the field field stuff with Joe

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Speaker 1: Horne field cell phone, cell phone, cell phone celebration, which

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Speaker 1: is shame because he was a really good receiver. He's

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Speaker 1: a very reliable, trusty physically, you know, he was one

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Speaker 1: of those guys that would go over the middle. He

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Speaker 1: had no he had no problems with that. But it's

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Speaker 1: the cell phone. It's the cell phone celebration. You're kidding me. Which,

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Speaker 1: by the way, have you seen the Saints and the Falcons?

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Speaker 1: H digital teams on Twitter? Just go after one another.

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Speaker 1: They hate each other. Oh, it's so awesome. I love

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Speaker 1: things we will not be doing. And you know, we're

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Speaker 1: really we're really friend Like I know, you know how

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Speaker 1: I feel about the Cults. Okay, yes, you know I

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Speaker 1: feel about the Titans and the Jags not quite the same,

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Speaker 1: but there's still a division rival. But I like the

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Speaker 1: people who worked there, you know, Mike Keith and I

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Speaker 1: and you know, I know you know all those guys,

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Speaker 1: and we all know those people and we all get

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Speaker 1: along great with the people who work for those teams.

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Speaker 1: But I still hate those teams like boys, and okay,

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Speaker 1: cut it up. Who's better? And we've got a modified

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Speaker 1: version of it today, Johnny, And it's gonna be fun

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Speaker 1: because everybody can play along at home. Who's Better? We've

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Speaker 1: time coaches and players spending time watching sporting events, and

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Speaker 1: we'll get into what's better and some other stuff as well.

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Speaker 1: I know I'm kind of cryptic here, but that's the

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Speaker 1: It's Texans Radio. Mark Vandermayer and John Harris with you.

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Speaker 1: Time to play the game. We usually play on Tuesday,

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Speaker 1: but Johnny and I switched nights and it's Wednesday. Who's better?

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Speaker 1: So time to play who's better? Johnny, let's go here

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Speaker 1: we go, Who's better? Pre draft evaluation? And you're the

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Speaker 1: man to talk to you about this. Patrick Maholmes or

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Speaker 1: anyone in this draft not named Trevor Lawrence. Now again, folks,

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Speaker 1: this is pre draft evaluation. Remember Maholmes was Pig tenth

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Speaker 1: in its twenty seventeen draft and the Chiefs moved up

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Speaker 1: to get them. What would have happened had they not

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Speaker 1: been able to make that deal. Do the Texans move

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Speaker 1: up and get them at twelve? Who knows what happens.

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Speaker 1: But anyway, Maholmes pre draft evaluation, or anybody in this

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Speaker 1: draft not named Trevor Lawrence, you know, maybe I should

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Speaker 1: throw Trevor Lawrence in there as well. What do you think, Well,

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Speaker 1: I've got four guys in the top ten. I put

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Speaker 1: it this way, if Patrick Mahomes, if Patrick Mahomes going

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Speaker 1: back to college had come out at the same time

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Speaker 1: as these guys, I probably would have put him third,

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Speaker 1: behind Lawrence, probably behind Zach Wilson too. But I always

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Speaker 1: had this soft spot for Mahomes just watching him, and

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Speaker 1: one of the things that stood out was the fact

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Speaker 1: that his dad was a professional athlete. He'd been around

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Speaker 1: professional locker rooms. That was not going to be intimidating

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Speaker 1: to him at all. And I just felt like, you

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Speaker 1: know what, man, his ceiling is so high, but his

518
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Speaker 1: floor is I mean, it's at the basement. So that

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Speaker 1: delta between the four and the ceiling was always worried

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Speaker 1: me about Mahomes. Although I was ready, I would roll

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Speaker 1: the dice with him because I trusted that he wasn't

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Speaker 1: going to bust because his dad and part of those

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Speaker 1: things he learned in Major League Baseball that Patrick saw

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Speaker 1: growing up. That's why I felt like DK Metcalf was

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Speaker 1: not going to be a bust. I had him in

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Speaker 1: my top sixteen, maybe maybe top twelve because his dad

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Speaker 1: had played in the NFL. He knew what it was about.

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Speaker 1: Those guys I don't worry about because they know what

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Speaker 1: it takes to be a good professional. So long answer

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Speaker 1: to a short question, I would have had him third.

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Speaker 1: I think Fields and Lance I would have put behind them,

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Speaker 1: even though Fields and Lance are like seven and ten

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Speaker 1: on my list. That twenty seventeen draft. When you go

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Speaker 1: back and look at it, Oh, it's salty, It's pretty salty,

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Speaker 1: and I had I think Patrick at sixteen, one spot

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Speaker 1: behind Deshaun at fifteen. But I would have put both

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Speaker 1: the Shawn and Patrick right about the same at three

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Speaker 1: or four. One of the reasons I ranked him a

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Speaker 1: little bit higher is I just I know that teams

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Speaker 1: are looking for quarterback. It's that simple, and I think

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Speaker 1: those guys are are very, very talented. But I think

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Speaker 1: it's a little bit easier to see where the new

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Speaker 1: the newer model of quarterback and how successful it's been.

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Speaker 1: I think we've been able to see that even back

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Speaker 1: as you know, as late as twenty seventeen, we weren't

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Speaker 1: totally sure yet that that was all the way there.

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Speaker 1: But I think I think Patrick and and Sean and Kyla,

548
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Speaker 1: Murray Baker Mayfield, they start showing, hey, look, you know

549
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Speaker 1: guys that can move, can do a few different things,

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Speaker 1: and his quarterback thing is changing. You better go get one.

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Speaker 1: And I think you can kind of see that. Reflecting

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Speaker 1: my rankings, but I would put I would put Patrick third.

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Speaker 1: I would have put him third behind Trevor Lawrence and

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Speaker 1: Zach Wilson. All right, next, who's better? All right? Recently,

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Speaker 1: Rich Eysen had David Antsball on a podcast. He's the

556
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Speaker 1: director of the movie Hoosiers, that was his first feature film.

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Speaker 1: Great stuff. He's talking about Gene Hackman and how they

558
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Speaker 1: disagreed a lot, and Hackman thought the movie was gonna stink,

559
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Speaker 1: and so did Dennis Hoppard. Obviously it's a great movie anyway.

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Speaker 1: Isiaen said it is his favorite sports movie. What's better

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Speaker 1: Hoosiers or any other sports movie. Give me a sports

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Speaker 1: movie that's better than foss in your opinion? Okay, I'm

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Speaker 1: I am a little biased, okay on this one because

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Speaker 1: it's not Friday Night Lights. I know that. No, No,

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Speaker 1: I hate I hate that movie. I love it though.

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Speaker 1: Buzz Buzz Visitor when he wrote the book, thought he

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Speaker 1: was gonna write Hoosiers for football, and obviously it didn't

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Speaker 1: turn out that way, but it was still a classic

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Speaker 1: and I totally recommend the book. I know the TV

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Speaker 1: shows a big success and it's different from the book

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Speaker 1: in the real life story, but trust me, I wasn't

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Speaker 1: born here. I got here as fast as I could.

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Speaker 1: One of the first things I did was read that book,

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Speaker 1: and it just taught me about the fabric of high

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Speaker 1: school football in this great land of ours. Texas Buzz

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Speaker 1: is one of the best interviews I've ever done. I

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Speaker 1: loved him. I mean, he's probably the only guy could

578
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Speaker 1: ever talk to you, that could talk more than me

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Speaker 1: on a particular topic. But last night, last night, Tuesday night, huh,

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Speaker 1: it was movie night. The Harris household and my daughter

581
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Speaker 1: are kind of compromising with me, and in some sense,

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Speaker 1: the my my wife and daughter are very big fans

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Speaker 1: of Robert Redford. They wanted to watch The Natural. So

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Speaker 1: we watched The Natural from beginning to end last night,

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Speaker 1: and they stood up at the end with a standing ovation.

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Speaker 1: That is such a good movie, a great with the cast,

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Speaker 1: Robert Duval, Kim Basinger, Robert Redford, Wilford Brimley. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's a Oh, it's a tremendous, tremendous cast. Natural. To me, Oh,

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Speaker 1: that is such a great movie. It's so over the top, hokey,

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Speaker 1: but I love it all right. It is so over

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Speaker 1: the top, But there are scenes and moments in that

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Speaker 1: movie that always get me. Like Wilfred Brimley when he's

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Speaker 1: shaving right before the big game of the end, He's like,

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Speaker 1: all I ever wanted to do Red Was was within

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Speaker 1: the Pannet I didn't care about the series, just wanted

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Speaker 1: to win the Panete. And you know sometimes I feel

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Speaker 1: that way about the super Bowl. I just want to

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Speaker 1: go to the super Bowl. Okay, you know I want

599
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Speaker 1: to win it, but I just want to get there,

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Speaker 1: Like can we please get there, get to a super

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Speaker 1: Bowl and experience that. Of course I want to win it,

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Speaker 1: but I understand his feeling about that to a degree.

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Speaker 1: And there's so many other things in that movie that

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Speaker 1: we could get to, but we don't have time for it.

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Speaker 1: All right, next up, we'll say that for a future episode.

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Speaker 1: By the way, movie, So I'm going Natural. I'm going

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Speaker 1: Natural as the best. I like Hoosier's better, but I

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Speaker 1: love the Natural great. And I thought you were gonna

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Speaker 1: go Bagger Vance, which Robert Redford directed, which is not

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Speaker 1: a great movie, but it's got a lot of great moments,

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Speaker 1: and if you love golf, it's outstanding. Will Smith is excellent. Okay, recently,

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Speaker 1: as recent as last weekend, we had the Masters and

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Speaker 1: Nick Saban was there watching and Ryan Fitzpatrick and other

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Speaker 1: sports celebrities. What's better, Augusta to watch for athletes or

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Speaker 1: and I can't go NBA or MLB. I gotta go

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Speaker 1: non traditional team sport, big events. So give me a

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Speaker 1: better event than Augusta for these types of guys to

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Speaker 1: go see, because if it brings out Sabin and fit

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Speaker 1: See and other NFL quarterbacks and coaches and things like that,

620
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Speaker 1: or about the Saban's NFL but he's formerly the NFL

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Speaker 1: big time college football. But you get my drift here.

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Speaker 1: What's better than Augusta to go see in this country? Nothing, nothing,

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Speaker 1: not to win. It's perfect if you get it's April,

624
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Speaker 1: so it's typically great weather. And if you get a

625
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Speaker 1: Sunday that is just gorgeous and sunny and you can

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Speaker 1: walk the course, I would imagine, and the patrons, I'm

627
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Speaker 1: sure that they're probably in some sense starstruck kind of,

628
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Speaker 1: but there's just this belief there at Augusta, like you know,

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Speaker 1: everybody just kind of does their own thing and and

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Speaker 1: you you know, you don't bother anybody. I just feel

631
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Speaker 1: like they're for to can to convene all those different

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Speaker 1: people at one event. I don't know that anything else exists.

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Speaker 1: I really don't. And I think it's kind of the

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Speaker 1: perfect time and a calendar for you know, football obviously

635
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Speaker 1: to be you know, be involved baseball is just getting started.

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Speaker 1: But I think that's the only one that I could see, Like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: may maybe, but what Olympic event would it be? Though,

638
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Speaker 1: I don't even know that's the right. I don't even

639
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Speaker 1: know if that's it. I think it's the Masters and

640
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:31,360
Speaker 1: it's not even close. All right, final, what's better? I agree,

641
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Speaker 1: by the way. I mean, it's just so unique. And

642
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Speaker 1: I think now the what was it? The US Amateur

643
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:40,320
Speaker 1: Girls Championship was there the week before, and I think

644
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Speaker 1: they showed one round. Somebody told me they showed one

645
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:44,720
Speaker 1: round on TV. Because I'm thinking, why is this? Why

646
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:48,080
Speaker 1: isn't this on TV? I would watch anybody play golf

647
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 1: at Augusta, right, yeah, you know, maybe not friends because

648
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:55,640
Speaker 1: they're horrible, but I might watch anybody else play golf

649
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:59,959
Speaker 1: at Augusta. Okay, let's uh. And apparently the US amage

650
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Speaker 1: your girls were hitting from where the men used to

651
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Speaker 1: hit or something like that, and it just shows you

652
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 1: how the game has changed. All right. This is a

653
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:12,759
Speaker 1: variation here we're playing who's better, but this is more

654
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:15,719
Speaker 1: like how good would how good would he have been?

655
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:22,480
Speaker 1: Bo Jackson Johnny bow Jackson, healthy full time football player?

656
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:27,239
Speaker 1: Where does he stack up with the greats in the game.

657
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:28,480
Speaker 1: And I don't know if we have enough time to

658
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:31,440
Speaker 1: do this justice. But I can do this in two words. Okay,

659
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Speaker 1: I can do this two words. Top three, Top three.

660
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Speaker 1: He's the freakiest. He's the freakiest athlete. One of the

661
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 1: things I always look at and I say to myself

662
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:43,840
Speaker 1: is I'm watching I'm watching players and studying players. That

663
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 1: guy is running away from other fast guys. And oh,

664
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Speaker 1: by the way, he's bigger than anybody on the field.

665
00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:57,879
Speaker 1: At this particular moment. He's top three. Jim Brown would

666
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:02,800
Speaker 1: is one of them, throwing I mean throwing barry standers

667
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:05,840
Speaker 1: because he was freaky as well. Bo Jackson, full time

668
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 1: running back, full time football player, would have been top three,

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00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:12,920
Speaker 1: no doubt. Maybe he's too. If he's full time devoted

670
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:17,879
Speaker 1: to it, he'd been fantastic. Okay, thank you, good stuff. Will.

671
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Speaker 1: I think we can attack a lot of those at

672
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Speaker 1: a full show over the summer. Next up, we'll go

673
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:26,480
Speaker 1: around the league. And Florio pinned a tweet that I

674
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:30,440
Speaker 1: thought was really funny and interesting about two leagues playing

675
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:34,319
Speaker 1: a championship game with their respective champions. But there are

676
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 1: many other things going on around the National Football League.

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Speaker 1: We'll get to them next on Texans Radio. On Texans Radio,

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Speaker 1: Vander Maeren Harris with you. I'm Texans Radio. Good evening everyone.

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Speaker 1: Great to have you aboard for the trip tonight, the

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00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:51,799
Speaker 1: trip home, wherever you're going in the car or if

681
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Speaker 1: you're listening on the app, the Audacity app from our

682
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:57,920
Speaker 1: friends at Sports Radio six ten and the Audacity Company

683
00:35:57,960 --> 00:35:59,759
Speaker 1: and also on the Texans Radio app. Great to have

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Speaker 1: you aboard. All right. So, Johnny, it's Odyssey. What did

685
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:07,239
Speaker 1: I say Audacity? Yeah? I screwed it up, you know why?

686
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Speaker 1: And I was actually I talked to Sarah Frasier last night,

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Speaker 1: market manager for Odyssey. Yeah, and I said, I'm gonna

688
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:16,719
Speaker 1: slip up and say Audacity because that's a that's an

689
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:21,480
Speaker 1: editing program that's free, yes, and you can download it

690
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 1: and edit audio and people in the biz know all

691
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 1: about that. So people in the biz are confusing the

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Speaker 1: two words. And I just did it on the air.

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Speaker 1: But you know what it brings home that it's Odyssey

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Speaker 1: and it's spelled you know, au like Audio, and it's

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00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:38,440
Speaker 1: pronounced like Iliad and Odyssey, so it's Odyssey. There you go.

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Speaker 1: It's great. It's a great app. I was using it

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00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 1: this morning actually because I had to get out of

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00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:44,799
Speaker 1: the car for some reason and I missed. You know,

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00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:46,839
Speaker 1: Sean and Seth we're talking about something, actually, Nick Saban

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00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:48,239
Speaker 1: they were talking about and I didn't want to miss it,

701
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:49,920
Speaker 1: so I just put my ear bunds in when any

702
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:51,839
Speaker 1: wherever I was going, I was listening to him. It's

703
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 1: a it's a great addition because I agree, you know,

704
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:57,319
Speaker 1: you're so used to TV, like I don't have to

705
00:36:57,320 --> 00:36:59,440
Speaker 1: miss a thing because I got on demand. I can rewind,

706
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 1: I can do whatever the heck I want, And now

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Speaker 1: you have that with the radio on this app or yeah,

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00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 1: Sean and Seth, you know they have Aby Dash on

709
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 1: or one of these guests they have. You want to

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00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 1: rewind him hear at boom. You're there, You're there and

711
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:16,920
Speaker 1: you're hearing it. Okay, we're here and XFL and CFL.

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Speaker 1: Would you want to see them in a championship game situation, Johnny, Well,

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00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:26,600
Speaker 1: like the champ from one championship Heck, yes, oh no,

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00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:29,839
Speaker 1: you know it would be cool. Okay, how many downs? Well,

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00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 1: that's where I was going with this. You know, in

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00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:35,280
Speaker 1: the World Series, if you go into the American League Ballpark,

717
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:38,120
Speaker 1: you have the DH you go into the National League Ballpark,

718
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:41,840
Speaker 1: you you the pitchers hit. What if you played XFL

719
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:45,880
Speaker 1: rules like you played a series, you played XFL rules

720
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:49,759
Speaker 1: in an XFL building, But then game two you'd have

721
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:51,919
Speaker 1: to go to the CFL and you'd have to play

722
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 1: CFL rules and the CFL. You know, I don't know

723
00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:58,800
Speaker 1: if that works. You know, it's crazy, you'd be crazy,

724
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:01,480
Speaker 1: but man, it would be fun. If Andre's listening to

725
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:03,440
Speaker 1: us right now, he's probably about to drive his card

726
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 1: to a bridge abutment. Like you guys, you don't understand

727
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:10,959
Speaker 1: the CFL, and you know he played up there, so

728
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:13,960
Speaker 1: he gets it and we watch it. But it's bizarre

729
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:16,319
Speaker 1: because you have the three downs and I can't get

730
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:19,919
Speaker 1: used to that. In fact, all right, so this all

731
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 1: it all comes back to me. Johnny. Wait, that's the

732
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 1: thing that's that's bizarre to you. Well, that's one of

733
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 1: the things. At the same time, the movement I can't stand.

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Speaker 1: I think the CFL could market itself much better. Now,

735
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:35,880
Speaker 1: this might not be the goal, so this is just

736
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 1: me talking. Could market itself much better to this audience

737
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:43,720
Speaker 1: if they just said just stand still until we snap

738
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 1: the football and make it look more like NFL football.

739
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:50,720
Speaker 1: These one starts are very confusing to everybody who watches

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00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 1: American football, and they're confusing for you to play by

741
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:56,240
Speaker 1: play man because you're always like, you know, cooks in motion.

742
00:38:57,200 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 1: Who do you say? Is in motion? All right? You all?

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00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:03,440
Speaker 1: Ee's in motion? I dudes are running around the ball. Snap,

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00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:07,799
Speaker 1: here we go. I don't know, No, I'm with you.

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00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 1: Look CFL and XFL, I would love to see them play,

746
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 1: but their games are are so different, I mean so

747
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:18,799
Speaker 1: very different. Just eleven players versus twelve guys in in uh,

748
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:22,680
Speaker 1: in motion at all times. Uh. Those things are are

749
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 1: fundamentally different. Not to mention the field is wider, um

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00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 1: and different in the CFL than it is in the XFL.

751
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:36,480
Speaker 1: But I just I just love ancillary leagues, other leagues

752
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 1: that you play football and do it well. The XFL

753
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:42,680
Speaker 1: was doing it well for a while. Um, and obviously

754
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:45,479
Speaker 1: COVID hit and um, you know, went back to drawing

755
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 1: board a little bit. CFL has been doing it for

756
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:50,520
Speaker 1: a long time, and there have been players that have

757
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 1: come to the CFL. You know, Joe Fisman went to

758
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:56,800
Speaker 1: the Toronto Argonauts. Rahi Bissmil went to the Toronto Argonauts,

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00:39:57,280 --> 00:40:01,960
Speaker 1: Doug Doug Foodie, Warren Moon. They they came through the

760
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:04,839
Speaker 1: CFL because there was no XFL at that time. There

761
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:07,239
Speaker 1: was no even World League had was gone by the

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00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:09,480
Speaker 1: time that they were, you know, in the NFL, so

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Speaker 1: there was it was an option for guys that want

764
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Speaker 1: to continue to play football and trying further their careers.

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Speaker 1: And you know, my daughter and I've had this conversation,

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Speaker 1: you know, for a long time, and she's she's good

767
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 1: about this. But you know, everybody says they want to

768
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:24,880
Speaker 1: get into acting, and they're like, oh, I want to

769
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:26,839
Speaker 1: be the big Hollywood you know, Tom Hanks sort of thing.

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00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:29,520
Speaker 1: It's like, but you know, maybe you maybe you don't

771
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:31,640
Speaker 1: get there, but you know, maybe you go on Broadway,

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00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:34,440
Speaker 1: you know, maybe do something on Netflix, maybe do something

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00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:36,359
Speaker 1: you know, on an on a new app that comes

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00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:39,319
Speaker 1: out in the next you know, five years. Um, you know,

775
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:42,759
Speaker 1: maybe you're you know, not the star on the next

776
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:46,359
Speaker 1: Modern Family, but you're you're part of the ensemble cast.

777
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:48,440
Speaker 1: You know, there's so many different ways to do it.

778
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:51,480
Speaker 1: Professional football is not quite like that. There's not as

779
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:54,759
Speaker 1: many avenues, but when they're there, guys take them and

780
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 1: make the most of it. PJ Walker is a great

781
00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:58,759
Speaker 1: example of that, what you did with the Roughnecks and

782
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:01,239
Speaker 1: then ended up doing for the Panthers last year. I

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00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:04,239
Speaker 1: was so happy for him, and there's a video of

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00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 1: him going in the locker room after the game that

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00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 1: he played and the Panthers ended up winning, and I

786
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:11,400
Speaker 1: was just like, man, that feeling you talked about earlier,

787
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 1: what's that feeling gonna be like? You know, Wilfred Brimley's

788
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:16,399
Speaker 1: watching the lights light up in that park and he's

789
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 1: gonna go to the Series the first time, and we

790
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:20,759
Speaker 1: think about going to the super Bowl. But what was

791
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:22,760
Speaker 1: that like for p J Walker to turn the corner

792
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 1: and everybody just goes nuts cheering for him? And it was,

793
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:29,399
Speaker 1: it was. It's incredible. But I'd love to see those

794
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:33,080
Speaker 1: other avenues open for guys that just want to play ball.

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00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:36,280
Speaker 1: Just keep it going that much longer. Yeah, I wish

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00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 1: there were more. We've talked about this before, how in

797
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:42,319
Speaker 1: basketball baseball you have opportunities to play that game all

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00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:46,319
Speaker 1: around planet Earth and in football, yeah you can play it,

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00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:48,800
Speaker 1: but can you make a living? Can you make some money?

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00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:50,680
Speaker 1: You know, like Darren Fells, We bring them up all

801
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:54,160
Speaker 1: the time, but he was making some pretty decent money. Obviously,

802
00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:56,759
Speaker 1: you can't play forever. You can't make the kind of

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00:41:56,800 --> 00:42:00,040
Speaker 1: money and professional overseas hoops that would enable you to

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00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:03,040
Speaker 1: a tire once you're done with your career. Now, I

805
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 1: guess you know, if you're playing for the Shanghai Sharks, maybe, yeah,

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00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 1: I was going to take care of you, but good

807
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 1: luck with that. Jeff for dead. Does he play for

808
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:12,920
Speaker 1: the Sharks? I forgot. I don't think so. Yeah, I

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00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 1: think so. And Marbury did really well over there, if

810
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:19,959
Speaker 1: very well. Yeah. Oh, the documentary about him going over

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00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 1: to China is just is just phenomenal. But he already

812
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 1: made boku Bucks in the NBA before he went over there.

813
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:29,960
Speaker 1: Yeah oh yeah, but he still made boku Bucks going

814
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:33,840
Speaker 1: over to China too. And yeah, it was just hearing

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Speaker 1: him talk about kind of the the zen he found,

816
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:39,799
Speaker 1: if you will, kind of a basketball zen kind of

817
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:42,480
Speaker 1: going over to China. It was fascinating in some sense.

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00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:45,040
Speaker 1: He kept kind of chasing his tail here in America

819
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:47,920
Speaker 1: and he goes over to China. It's he's revered. I mean,

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00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:51,399
Speaker 1: it's it's it's fascinating. Yeah, I mean I think that

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Speaker 1: I love what you brought up about acting and about

822
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 1: so many professions where you have a dream maybe to

823
00:42:57,200 --> 00:43:01,160
Speaker 1: coach coach kids. Man, you want to coach and you

824
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:03,080
Speaker 1: have a job. I know you want to be a

825
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:06,960
Speaker 1: professional coach. Maybe, but go coach kids and enjoy yourself

826
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:11,160
Speaker 1: because they need coaches. Good coaches are needed. Trust me

827
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:13,920
Speaker 1: on this. I think we can all vouch anybody who

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00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:16,799
Speaker 1: has kids playing youth league sports. All right, Johnny, that's

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00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:19,440
Speaker 1: gonna do it for today, tomorrow, it's already Thursday. We

830
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:22,680
Speaker 1: have the general on. It's gonna be fun. We'll visit then,

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Speaker 1: and we want to thank everyone who worked on the

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00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 1: show tonight. Appreciate everyone for tuning in. Go to the

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Speaker 1: Texans app or all the information on your Texans and

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00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:35,120
Speaker 1: Houston Texans dot com. Of course, have a great evening everyone,

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Speaker 1: and go Texans.