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Speaker 1: afro Tech twenty nineteen, Oakland, California, Angelica nowan DU founder

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Speaker 1: and CEO at the Shade Rooms on stage with Blavity

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Speaker 1: editor literally working there, discussing how content creators and social

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Speaker 1: media mavens should think about how to maximize their influence

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Speaker 1: in brand awareness as well as owning and monetizing their content.

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Speaker 1: I mean I get different feedback and advice. Some people say,

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Speaker 1: focus on what works for you, you know. I mean

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Speaker 1: if you have a business and you have a website

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Speaker 1: and you have an Instagram and you have a YouTube,

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Speaker 1: and you can't figure out how to get off on YouTube,

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Speaker 1: you can't figure out what to do with the website,

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Speaker 1: but Instagram is rolling. Focus on what's hitty, you know,

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Speaker 1: what's working for you, and then build out. And so

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Speaker 1: that's kind of what UM we've done. And so now

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Speaker 1: that we're at this place where we're like, hey, we

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Speaker 1: have Shade Room teams. At one point one those teams

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Speaker 1: are praising You'll gotta go to that page. Um. And

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Speaker 1: then we have you know, the Shade Room and you

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Speaker 1: know our website, We've built it backwards, you know what

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Speaker 1: I mean. So we we the website came after the

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Speaker 1: Instagram and we've been building against millions and page views

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Speaker 1: and you need us users there. But um, the goal

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Speaker 1: is to just build that connection with our audience through

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Speaker 1: text message services, through different platforms. I think that in

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Speaker 1: the music industry, everybody's like, don't don't sign with the label,

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Speaker 1: don't sign with the label, like be independent and things

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Speaker 1: like that. And so now that we are independent, now

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Speaker 1: that there's a lot of businesses coming off of the

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Speaker 1: social media, how do we own that audience without you know,

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Speaker 1: Instagram being able to take it away, you know what

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Speaker 1: I mean? And I think that that we need more

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Speaker 1: people to come up in that industry and create. Like

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Speaker 1: I was, I was reading a tweet that said, um,

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Speaker 1: what if there was a black company that got behind

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Speaker 1: um all of the viral talent that we have and

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Speaker 1: just gave march, you know, opportunities and all these things

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Speaker 1: to kind of monetize you feed Joey, You're like she

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Speaker 1: had that infrastructure behind her to be able to, you know,

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Speaker 1: monetize that virility. And so I think that we have

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Speaker 1: so many opportunities where we are the internet low key,

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Speaker 1: like we we pushed the internet, We drive the Internet.

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Speaker 1: So who's gonna step up and kind of help our

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Speaker 1: our talent, our companies are you know what I mean

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Speaker 1: to be able to own their audience and to be

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Speaker 1: able to scale and move forward. I'm Will Lucas and

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Speaker 1: this is black tech, green money. I'm gonna ask you this.

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Speaker 1: She did some of the biggest names, some of the

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Speaker 1: brightest minds and brilliant ideas. If you're black and building

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Speaker 1: simply using tech to secure your back, this podcast is

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Speaker 1: for you. Gilly the King and Wallow two six seven

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Speaker 1: of the host of the Meeting That Was Worth the

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Speaker 1: Game podcast was just described it as the perfect blend

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Speaker 1: of discussing music, real life issues, personal experiences, honest advice

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Speaker 1: in comedy. In the previous life, Gilly was a rapper

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Speaker 1: and songwriter alongside Little Wayne to six seven. For his part,

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Speaker 1: spent twenty years in jail before becoming a social media phenie.

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Speaker 1: After only about a year producing shows. They signed with

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Speaker 1: Barstool Sports for reported three million dollars maybe more. I

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Speaker 1: asked Gillian Willow about how of all the talented people

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Speaker 1: to break from the pack, pay the business and signed

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Speaker 1: Luke for the deals. You know what we when we

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Speaker 1: first got information about the podcast game, we had somebody

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Speaker 1: school is more reach? Correct? You just play for I

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Speaker 1: old skate. I don't know if you know who he

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Speaker 1: was said, he's a he's a brother of arts and

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Speaker 1: uh he was, he was, he was. He was telling

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Speaker 1: us about it so much, right, But we ain't just

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Speaker 1: jumped right up on it that did. We did some research,

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Speaker 1: we you know, seeing some things and just waited and

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Speaker 1: when the moment was right, we just hit. It wasn't

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Speaker 1: about just jumping out because anybody out of podcast let

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Speaker 1: me have a podcast. No, we had to learn about

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Speaker 1: what the podcast was. So it was about you know

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Speaker 1: a lot of times people just think you could just

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Speaker 1: they see every they see everybody doing someone to see

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Speaker 1: being strategic about their approach. He was more strategic and

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Speaker 1: just trying to find out what is the podcast? Okay,

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Speaker 1: this is what they got there making this this, are

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Speaker 1: we gonna do it? And then when we was ready

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Speaker 1: to do it, are supports? You know, they went with

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Speaker 1: us because it's hard. This is what people don't understand.

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Speaker 1: You know, a person that says, oh I got this,

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Speaker 1: many followers listen. It depends on why do your follows

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Speaker 1: follow you? Do they follow you to laugh? Do they

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Speaker 1: follow you for advice? Do we follow you for fashion tips?

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Speaker 1: Do they follow you because you cook? Certainly like you

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Speaker 1: know they follow you. You got fat ass and your

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Speaker 1: titties all up on the fits. All that's trying to

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Speaker 1: hop the gate. So you gotta understood that they follow

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Speaker 1: you for your ass and tips, and they don't follow

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Speaker 1: you from your wit. For your wits, we don't given

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Speaker 1: about your podcasts. They ain't gonna care. They're gonna go

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Speaker 1: over there, list to your podcasts. Will follow you for

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Speaker 1: your withs. We follow you for your ass and tips.

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Speaker 1: So please put up a picture in your patents. Will

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Speaker 1: want here about your podcast? Please throw a picture you

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Speaker 1: and your patents. That's about two million motherfucker's following you,

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Speaker 1: not because we we don't even care if you talk.

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Speaker 1: But then motherfucker feels like oh I got to where

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Speaker 1: you follow us. I'll put out uh a T shirt.

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Speaker 1: Don't nobody support me? Uh? The support your ass, that's

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Speaker 1: what you That's that's why they're hit. So a lot

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Speaker 1: of people don't understand that. And it's like just because

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Speaker 1: you got numbers down me, they're gonna do the people

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Speaker 1: genuinely mess with you. The thing about me and Gil

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Speaker 1: is we have a human connection with our with our audience.

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Speaker 1: It's not about we got They're not messing with us

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Speaker 1: because we drive these cards, we wear all this jury,

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Speaker 1: we flash all this money. They messing with us because

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Speaker 1: they can relate to me and gillless. They can relate

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Speaker 1: to their uncle, with their cousin, their brother, They in

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Speaker 1: you what I'm saying that the pop So it's more

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Speaker 1: it's more relatable when people can connect with that, you know.

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Speaker 1: And we're just being us every day in uh in

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Speaker 1: a world where everybody is trying to be illusion I

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Speaker 1: mean so you know, yeah, yeah, I like that. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Gilly and I was listening to episode seventies six. I

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Speaker 1: think it was how to Build your Brand, and um,

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Speaker 1: you talked about how to take criticism, and so many

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Speaker 1: people don't know how to take criticism in this world,

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Speaker 1: especially again this world of technology. When you're pitching you know, vcs,

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Speaker 1: pitching vcs to fund your idea, you're constantly being criticized

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Speaker 1: person may not be the one to get it. I mean,

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Speaker 1: at the end of the day, if somebody is listening

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Speaker 1: how golden the advice you give them is they ain't

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Speaker 1: gonna take it because there is close they got. They

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Speaker 1: really trying to hedd what you got to say. If if,

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Speaker 1: if a motherfucker, if a person is saying, okay, I'm

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Speaker 1: listening to what you're saying, let me listen. Because a

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Speaker 1: be quiet, but they're not listening as you talking. They're

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Speaker 1: thinking of a rebuttal yeah, yeah, so that's not that's

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Speaker 1: when you get done talking, it would be point three

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Speaker 1: seconds you don't stop talking, and they're talking. Yeah, but

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Speaker 1: some good advice, they're gonna take it in damn. You

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Speaker 1: know what. Yeah, you're right, I like that. Yeah, you

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Speaker 1: So you know, like I did the post today about

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Speaker 1: no university, there's different respectives to this no university with

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Speaker 1: the university. For me when I came home and it

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Speaker 1: no would come and I don't understand they said, while

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Speaker 1: come meet with me. They I call meet with somebody,

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Speaker 1: I'm like, damn, well, what happened? Why they'd be like,

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Speaker 1: wholda you came to the meeting, You ain't had no proposal, deck,

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Speaker 1: you ain't no sponsorship, that you ain't had nothing, You

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Speaker 1: ain't had no numbers, you ain't had Why do people

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Speaker 1: Why you get helped the people deal with us? You don't.

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Speaker 1: You ain't had no connection, You ain't had nothing, You

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Speaker 1: ain't had no paper, You had nothing that no proof

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Speaker 1: looking for what? High? Look? How sponsorship that with high proposal? Look?

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna do it. I'm I'm gonna I'm gonna show

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Speaker 1: so you can't even operate right because everything is based

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Speaker 1: off of Watch Revenge. I'm gonna show them I'm gonna no,

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Speaker 1: you better show you. But so many people can tell you,

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Speaker 1: you know, could you elaborate on that now? You know

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Speaker 1: if you don't have them, if you don't mind, could

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Speaker 1: you tell me and then I'll tell you why. You know,

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Speaker 1: So even with the ventious capitalists, you tell you ask

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Speaker 1: somebody to give you millions of dollars, millions of dollars

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Speaker 1: and something that you created, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: And just and just like people can tell you know,

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Speaker 1: some people might don't get it in may be like, well,

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Speaker 1: and I have to set up infrastructure and your idea

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Speaker 1: and the design or whatever the approach you're coming in

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Speaker 1: order to materialize this or even getting some traction on it.

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Speaker 1: So I'm cool. So now you're like, oh, all right, cool,

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Speaker 1: I get that, you know. So it's all about is

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Speaker 1: you're receiving the note what your heart as you're receiving

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Speaker 1: the know what your mind? What is it that most

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Speaker 1: people don't understand about content creation and making money? Because

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Speaker 1: I would I would imagine that you guys probably came

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Speaker 1: the money follow that, versus you're saying, how can we

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Speaker 1: they overthink too much, and then look at somebody else

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Speaker 1: attention is what was the name of the podcast. Attention

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Speaker 1: is bigger than money. Well, to me, it means something

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Speaker 1: totally different than me that these niggas out here on

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Speaker 1: what no money. They just want to be famous. That's

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Speaker 1: all they want is attention. They don't want they don't

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Speaker 1: want nothing in life. You got a bunch of motherfucker's

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Speaker 1: don't want no income behind it. They want to be famous.

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Speaker 1: And you got motherfucker's out here with actual real liquid money,

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Speaker 1: liquid cash. Motherfucker Baker count On got damn, And they

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Speaker 1: want to be famous. They already got everything the famous

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Speaker 1: motherfucker's got, but they're just not known. So they want

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Speaker 1: to be famous. So that's what it means me is

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Speaker 1: the intention is bigger than money. I mean that motherfucker's

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Speaker 1: out here. Don't want money, man, it's not fame. They're

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Speaker 1: doing it. Everybody wanna be known. They don't want to

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Speaker 1: be owned, They want to be known. Is a difference.

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Speaker 1: Um another one, two or three. Don't compete with me,

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Speaker 1: eat with me. No, everybody want to try to compete

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Speaker 1: with you instead of trying to figure out a way

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Speaker 1: to get some money with you. They want to see

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Speaker 1: you as competition and you and like you got you

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Speaker 1: got people that's your competition that you don't even know exist,

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Speaker 1: you never met, Never met you, they said, nigga, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they're seeking people with you, and they could have trying

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Speaker 1: to figure out the way to bring value to you,

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Speaker 1: and especially in the urban community. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: So like, don't compete, but don't like, don't compete with me,

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Speaker 1: eat with me. Let's let's let's get some money together. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, don't don't don't shoot the nigga salute the nigga. Man,

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Speaker 1: what you think is behind that? Why why won't we

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Speaker 1: work together? Because everybody mentality when they're coming from the

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Speaker 1: bottom is when I get on, I'm a ship on niggas.

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Speaker 1: Anybody trying to get on not not. I'm gonna get

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Speaker 1: on and I'm helping nothing nigga get on. That's just

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Speaker 1: never been Niggas coming from the ghetto mentality. Niggas coming

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Speaker 1: from the ghetto mentality is like paid in full. When

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Speaker 1: the nigga get that new car, he come through the block,

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Speaker 1: me like this, Yeah, yeah, I'm up Now I'm that nigga. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: y'all see me shipping on niggas. Yeah, that's that's the

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Speaker 1: nigga's mentality when you're coming out to the men, when

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Speaker 1: you're coming from the urban standpoint or life, it's not

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Speaker 1: it's not I want to help somebody, you know what

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Speaker 1: I'm saying. So we gotta we gotta change that mentality,

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Speaker 1: all right. Last one, um comparison is the Thief of Joy. Uh.

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Speaker 1: We were so many episodes in, but just having that

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Speaker 1: title comparison is the Thief of Joy is like everybody

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Speaker 1: so they truly can't be happy because you're comparing your

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Speaker 1: life to this person over here who really ain't got

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Speaker 1: it going on. And they always take all the trip

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Speaker 1: shire because she basically sell a pussy. They fly out,

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Speaker 1: they put in why do you think nobody's ever in

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Speaker 1: the fucking pictures with but uh, but but you got you.

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Speaker 1: Even young girls get caught up looking at these girls

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Speaker 1: who they think is living a life and they really

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Speaker 1: ain't living a life. So you you get caught up

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Speaker 1: comparing your life to to another person's life, and you

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Speaker 1: can't even really see the real joy in your life

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Speaker 1: because you learned about what everybody else is do. It's

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Speaker 1: really their highlight real you don't really see it absolutely,

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Speaker 1: and people get caught up, uh just just just looking

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Speaker 1: at the ups and knock the downs. Everybody nobody life

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Speaker 1: is just on the upside. Man. Everybody got ups and downs.

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Speaker 1: And people never show you the downs on Instagram, They

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Speaker 1: never show you the downs on Twitter, the downs on face,

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Speaker 1: but they only show you the ups. That's what people

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Speaker 1: so comparison, and it stills your joy, you feel what

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Speaker 1: I'm saying, because you don't allow yourself to be who

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Speaker 1: you truly are. See, we don't give a funk about

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Speaker 1: nobody else who with trips they're taking, what they're doing

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Speaker 1: over there, how much money they got over there that

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Speaker 1: you know what? You know what? What inspire us that

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Speaker 1: Joe Rogan got a hundred million dollars a year. That's

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Speaker 1: the type of ship that is. We was like, damn,

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Speaker 1: Joe's the legend. Maybe one day we could get a

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Speaker 1: hundred million a year to do what we love. But

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Speaker 1: it ain't no envy and come with that. It's all

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Speaker 1: in excitement, it's all joyous, all understanding that he just

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Speaker 1: set a platform for everybody, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: So that's what people gotta learn how to do. Man,

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Speaker 1: find joy within what you do, man, and be happy

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Speaker 1: with yourself man, and stop worrying about what anybody else

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Speaker 1: is doing. Man, because no matter what else anybody else

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Speaker 1: is doing out here, when me and Wallow looked there

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Speaker 1: like this, a pocket prince is still the same, man,

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Speaker 1: the bank account is still the same. What you're doing

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Speaker 1: did not add new zeroos or did not take nothing

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Speaker 1: away from my bank account or my pocket front. So

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Speaker 1: I can get the funk less about what anybody is doing.

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Speaker 1: Just do us, set our goals and do us Black

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Speaker 1: Tag Green Money is a production of Black of the

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Speaker 1: afro Tech is produced by Morgan debonn Andy Will Lucas,

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Speaker 1: near Born. Special thank you to Michael David's and the

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