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Speaker 1: Welcome to the drive. I'm Dale Lulli. He is the

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Speaker 1: Matt Williamson and Matt It's Friday, Happy Friday. It's much

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Speaker 1: nicer today than yesterday. That means the lantern but flies

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Speaker 1: are out everywhere. Yeah, I got seventeen today on the

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Speaker 1: parking lot from the walk in from the parking lot into.

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Speaker 2: This pretty strong. I was happy. I got three on one,

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Speaker 1: Was without Like again, if somebody was just watching me

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Speaker 1: from afar and they might have thought that guy's drunk.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, moving, swaying a little a little bit, but I was.

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Speaker 1: Just walking pretty much a straight line. And just I

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Speaker 1: mean they're everywhere.

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Speaker 2: Oh, they were everywhere today.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and then they were attacking.

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Speaker 2: I'd say they're fighting back. I got three and one step.

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Speaker 2: I was happy about that. I didn't count, but it

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Speaker 2: was probably under seventeen. Come in as always, go to

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Speaker 2: the urinal and I thought you were tickling me, like

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Speaker 2: behind my.

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Speaker 1: Neck and that comes later us like somebody stuck up.

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Speaker 2: On adomy Dale and I swat him. There he goes flying.

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Speaker 2: Then he found another dead guy there was two of

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Speaker 2: them by the sink, and killed him with his friend.

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Speaker 1: Maybe that was the whole idea when they come in

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Speaker 1: and find the front of me. Yeah, it was. It

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Speaker 1: was like an infiltration. Had to get in there and

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Speaker 2: Say the graveyard walking in here though, and but they're

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Speaker 2: more alive than dead lately. Well today there was.

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Speaker 1: So Matt Well, I was thinking about this today. So

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Speaker 1: the Detroit Lions won last night. They are now they've

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Speaker 1: now won eleven of their last fourteen games.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they got hot about the same time the Steelers

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Speaker 2: did well.

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Speaker 1: And that's that's what brings me to that. So if

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Speaker 1: the Steelers win on Sunday against the Houston Texans, they've

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Speaker 1: have won ten of their last thirteen.

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Speaker 2: Very similar, very similar.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and yet nobody nationally like there were some buzz

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Speaker 1: in the ausseum, not to the level that there was

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Speaker 1: for Detroit.

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Speaker 2: No, not even close.

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Speaker 1: Ten out of thirteen. I don't care who you're playing

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Speaker 1: in the NFL. Ten out of thirteen, it's ten out

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Speaker 1: of thirteen. That's a pretty good stretch.

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Speaker 2: That's a large portion of a regular season. Yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 2: that's like on pace to win thirteen fourteen game yea.

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Speaker 1: If the Steelers after thirteen weeks this season or fourteen

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Speaker 1: weeks including to buy we're ten and three. Everybody'd be

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Speaker 2: That, absolutely, and there has been more buzz. I think

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Speaker 2: some of it's the nature of their head coach and

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Speaker 2: the fact that the organizations couldn't be any more different

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Speaker 2: historically in terms of win percentage and success, and their

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Speaker 2: division's much more winnable. It's a lot easier pick the

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Speaker 2: Lions and the preseason polls to win their North as

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Speaker 2: opposed to the other way around. But now I'm with you,

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Speaker 2: and frankly I sold the Lions short. I know this

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Speaker 2: is an a Lions you know conversation, but they're better

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Speaker 2: than I thought. They're pretty solid, and they dominated both

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that was you know, I think the thing that

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Speaker 1: gets lost in today's NFL is that defense still wins games.

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Speaker 1: Sure like you, it's it's it looks great when Miami

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Speaker 1: goes out there and puts up, you know, seven hundred

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Speaker 1: talks about it. A week before that, against New England,

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Speaker 1: they had I think three hundred and seventy nine yards

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Speaker 1: and they scored twenty four points. The game was there

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Speaker 1: and it was a twenty four to seventeen game. The

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Speaker 1: game was there for New England to win.

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Speaker 2: Oh, absolutely absolutely, they were pulling away from New England

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Speaker 2: in not fashion. New England's defense played a thousand times

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Speaker 1: But all I heard all this offseason, well, you can't

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Speaker 1: The Lions are running the ball and playing defense and

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Speaker 2: Yeah, their defense, the Steelers are vastly improved. Yeah, and

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Speaker 2: they have a really good O line. And I thought

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Speaker 2: they were skill positioned short. I don't think they are.

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Speaker 2: You know, Laporta has come on well, and you can

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Speaker 2: find those guys. You can't find lineman easily.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So I mean, yes, it's the league is tilted

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Speaker 1: towards offense. But you can still play good defense, run

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Speaker 2: Very effective, and win football games. Like you said, you want,

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Speaker 2: what ten out of thirteen if they win.

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Speaker 1: Ten at thirteen if they win this week.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think they're gonna even if they lose.

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Speaker 1: This week, it's still nine out of thirteen. Still pretty

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Speaker 2: Still well over five hundred.

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Speaker 1: Yeah you take that.

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Speaker 2: And was it eight of Kenny's last ten stars.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it'll be nine out of eleven if he wins wins, Okay,

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Speaker 1: that's right. I mean again, that's that's hard to do. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't care what the stats are.

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Speaker 2: You pick the ten easiest games in the league. If

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Speaker 2: you win eight of them, that's hard to do.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, for the Chiefs, for anybody, Mike Tomlin against rookie quarterbacks,

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Speaker 1: it's another good one. Twenty four and four.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, kind of like the Monday Night there. But it's overwhelming.

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Speaker 2: You can't be like, oh it's kind of fluky.

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, let's talk about not all that fluky.

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Speaker 2: No.

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Speaker 1: Why do you think that is?

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Speaker 1: Every he says. Belichick against rookie quarterbacks, I don't know

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Speaker 2: I'm kind of going to say, like, I'm sure it's

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Speaker 2: not that extreme for all those dudes. But if you're

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Speaker 2: means first of all, you're a good yeah, and second

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Speaker 2: of all, you've played a lot of rookie quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: Probably Belichick's twenty one and six, and it says you're

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Speaker 1: Bill Belichick's Patriots teams aren't astonishing twenty one and six

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Speaker 2: But again, if you've been around the leage a long time,

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Speaker 2: you're probably have a winning record against rookie quarterbacks because

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Speaker 2: they get thrust into Trevor Lawrence rookie year dysfunctional madness,

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Speaker 2: and you should win that game because the good ones

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Speaker 2: get picked high. But to have an overwhelming record like

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Speaker 2: something like that, I mean, it's not sixty percent. I'm

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Speaker 2: sure that they know how not only confused, but to

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Speaker 1: And yeah, people forget about him is that he while

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Speaker 2: On his rookie year. Basically, in terms of numbers.

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Speaker 1: It's an extended rookie year. And he had the offseason

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Speaker 1: it's still very new to him. In the NFL.

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Speaker 2: The off season is very valuable in that conversation. Without question,

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Speaker 2: he added some weight, he got stronger, watch a lot

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Speaker 2: jumping verticals and nonsense.

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Speaker 1: But while you're doing that, the rest of the league

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Speaker 2: Or what do you think the raven Z coordinator was

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Speaker 2: up to? And let's figure out this new kid.

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Speaker 1: Watch all of Kenny Pickett starts last year.

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Speaker 2: You know, like Ritter had that and he doesn't look

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I asked that. I actually asked Terrell Austin that yesterday.

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Speaker 1: I said, is three games enough to evaluate a rookie quarterback?

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Speaker 1: And as to what he can and can't do? He says, No,

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Speaker 1: it's not. I mean, that's not enough.

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Speaker 2: I wonder I know how this works, like in the

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Speaker 2: free agency world, like you build a report on CJ.

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Speaker 2: Stroud starting with your college scouts, the dudes that walk

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Speaker 2: into Ohio State. In this situation, does it behoove him

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Speaker 2: It seems like a hundred million years ago and circumstances

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Speaker 1: Yeah, different, I mean I'm sure you look at it.

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Speaker 2: Maybe he really.

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Speaker 1: Throws the out well, or he really throws this pass well.

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Speaker 1: But he was playing with guys at Ohio State there

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Speaker 2: It couldn't have been any different. Yeah, Let alone the

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Speaker 2: speed of the game that every team. I doubt there's

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Speaker 2: I'm glad you mentioned that though, because a slight advantage

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Speaker 2: I think the Texans have is they're new. You know,

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Speaker 2: like you just don't quite know their tendency.

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Speaker 1: New head coach, new offensive coordinator, new defensive coordinator. Defensively,

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Speaker 1: you kind of know what they are.

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Speaker 2: They're very vanilla. Yeah, I mean, they're very execution based,

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Speaker 2: but you don't know does he love going forward on

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Speaker 2: Is he heavy in you know, fake punts or whatever.

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Speaker 1: And there's a lot of that with new head coaches

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Speaker 1: if you think back, you know to Bill Cowers first year,

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Speaker 1: you know, surprise on sidekick I think in Houston and

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you don't know, you're not sure. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 2: not Harbo versus you know, Tom.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, where they've gone, you know, they've banged heads twenty

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Speaker 1: five times, and then you have to look at you know,

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Speaker 1: the game plan is, well, let's bring up the game

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Speaker 2: And even I'm thinking, like, you know, late late in

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Speaker 2: and then it's Trott and al Tucker, you know what

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Speaker 2: I mean, Like, I know it's coming.

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Speaker 1: It's fourth and one at the forty five, He's going

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Speaker 1: to go for it, you know. So that makes me

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Speaker 1: then coach differently.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, right right, I know what he knows and all that.

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Speaker 2: So I do think some of that helps Houston slightly.

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Speaker 2: They don't have as good as players, but it is

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Speaker 2: probably not an easy team to prepare for in terms

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Speaker 2: of boy, we have all the stata on. You know.

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Speaker 1: It's funny domecho Ryans spoke to the media here. Not

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Speaker 1: every coach does this.

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Speaker 2: It used to be calm, it used to be every week.

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Speaker 1: Now it's a situation where if if you request, like

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Speaker 1: let's say the Pittsburgh media had requested DeMeco Ryans and

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Speaker 1: he said no, then the Steelers then aren't obligated to

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Speaker 1: make Mike Tomlin available to the Houston media.

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Speaker 2: But what if Ryan says, yes, you have it.

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Speaker 1: If Ryan says yes, then you're you're supposed to, Okay,

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Speaker 1: you know, do the same. But he did this week,

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Speaker 1: and I think he volunteered to do it. H A

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Speaker 1: because JJ Watts being honored before the game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I keep forget about that connection.

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Speaker 1: B because he has great, a great deal of respect

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Speaker 1: for Mike Tomlin. He was talking about Tomlin, how he's

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Speaker 1: like he knew him as when he was a player.

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Speaker 1: He remembers Tomlin, you know, sitting down with Tomlin, uh

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Speaker 1: through the draft process. Yeah, I mean, okay, yeah, he said,

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Speaker 1: That's what. Yeah, the Jaguars last week played not the

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Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely this week. Yeah, don't let it be you.

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Speaker 1: it's also much closer to to Mexico, where there's a

440
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Speaker 1: huge contingent of Steeler fans as well. So I expected

441
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Speaker 1: to be pretty, uh, pretty heavily attended when.

442
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Speaker 2: I didn't realize that, like the country of Mexico's favorite team,

443
00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:30,160
Speaker 2: I think is the Steelers. If not, they're like top

444
00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:30,439
Speaker 2: two or.

445
00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:32,520
Speaker 1: Three, they're top They're definitely top two or three.

446
00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:34,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I asked some people, I'm like, why is that?

447
00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:37,800
Speaker 2: They're like because the seventies. Yeah, really, I mean that

448
00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:40,040
Speaker 2: was a long time ago. There's a lot of generations

449
00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:42,240
Speaker 2: of Mexican folks that didn't watch Joe Green.

450
00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:45,280
Speaker 1: Yeah. It's uh, I mean that's why the Steelers, you know,

451
00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:50,640
Speaker 1: one of their international areas is Mexico. Yeah, they've contingent.

452
00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:50,880
Speaker 2: Yeah.

453
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Speaker 1: In fact that the Steelers just had a watch party

454
00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:54,400
Speaker 1: in Mexico.

455
00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:56,320
Speaker 2: Last weekend, okay, yeah, and it was.

456
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Speaker 1: I mean they sent former players there. They had a big,

457
00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:01,119
Speaker 1: you know, big to do with it, and you know

458
00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:04,960
Speaker 1: it was it was a great time. Games are broadcast

459
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Speaker 1: in Spanish.

460
00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:08,280
Speaker 2: I'm actually Dallas was the team you like, you know,

461
00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:09,359
Speaker 2: just something closer.

462
00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:12,040
Speaker 1: I think that's I think that's I'm sure another of

463
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Speaker 1: the teams. I think. I think the Raiders are popular

464
00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:17,720
Speaker 1: down there. But yeah, yeah, so huh okay, I don't

465
00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:19,440
Speaker 1: know if it did take that long for the games

466
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Speaker 1: to get down there, I don't think so. No. Mexico

467
00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:25,720
Speaker 1: they they they love their Steelers and you know, pretty

468
00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:26,359
Speaker 1: goodness for that.

469
00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:28,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know Ireland is massive, but.

470
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Speaker 1: That's the other international maybe a lot of listeners from

471
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Speaker 1: all over the world.

472
00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:34,320
Speaker 2: We have Australia and you know, right, we appreciate that's

473
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Speaker 2: pretty cool.

474
00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:37,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is cool. So again, eighty two dollars for

475
00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:39,640
Speaker 1: the Steeler game. That's pretty chill.

476
00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:41,959
Speaker 2: You forty percent. I'll be impressed. I mean they'll be

477
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Speaker 2: allowed forty prepare to be impressed. Yeah, I'm never there,

478
00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:48,080
Speaker 2: so it's always hard to tell on TV, and they

479
00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:49,239
Speaker 2: ever fun.

480
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Speaker 1: You know. The funny thing about it is is so

481
00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:54,479
Speaker 1: the Steeler fans always seem to get in there early,

482
00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:57,200
Speaker 1: okay to watch warm.

483
00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:59,600
Speaker 2: Ups, So they're real loud off the start as.

484
00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:03,080
Speaker 1: And as they get well and so you can see

485
00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:05,640
Speaker 1: the pockets all over the and they twirl their towels,

486
00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:08,400
Speaker 1: and as both teams come out to get warmed up,

487
00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:11,919
Speaker 1: different position groups will come out together. And so you

488
00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:15,080
Speaker 1: see the Steelers come out on the field, right, and

489
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Speaker 1: then the other team comes out and their running backs

490
00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:19,920
Speaker 1: come running out on the field and it's boom, like

491
00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:22,160
Speaker 1: that's gonna be so demoralizing.

492
00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:25,879
Speaker 2: Houston fans already in there yet, I would imagine that

493
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Speaker 2: their their regular tail guy. To say, I would again,

494
00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:31,159
Speaker 2: I haven't thought like a fan in a while, but

495
00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:33,880
Speaker 2: if I'm in Houston, I don't have a tailgate set

496
00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:36,160
Speaker 2: up with all my buddies quite the way. I mean, sure,

497
00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:38,040
Speaker 2: you go to local watering holes and get a sandwich

498
00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:41,120
Speaker 2: or you know whatever, but it's not the same as

499
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Speaker 2: I have my routine. Got the pregame show on the

500
00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:46,720
Speaker 2: SUV or you know, the RV and you know, I'll

501
00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:48,040
Speaker 2: go in at twelve fifty two.

502
00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:49,960
Speaker 1: I know exactly when they go in, and I can

503
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Speaker 1: make it there because I've done it a hundred times, yeah,

504
00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:54,320
Speaker 1: nine times a year or whatever. Yeah this, stay get

505
00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:56,520
Speaker 1: there early and it's you know, so you.

506
00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:59,560
Speaker 2: Know, and see the new stadium too, yeah right right right, yeah,

507
00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:03,000
Speaker 2: so uh well it's always sat folks.

508
00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:06,800
Speaker 1: Absolutely, and you know, so one of the issues was.

509
00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:09,119
Speaker 2: Stay late too, Like if they're running late, they're all

510
00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:10,880
Speaker 2: the home fans are trickling out of there.

511
00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:13,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're down by on the railing, you know, yelling

512
00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:18,159
Speaker 1: for players. One of the interesting things about that, though,

513
00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:22,880
Speaker 1: is that it makes communication on defense a little more

514
00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:24,160
Speaker 1: difficult because.

515
00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:25,040
Speaker 2: For the Steelers.

516
00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:29,520
Speaker 1: For the Steelers, because you know, the the Yeah, it's

517
00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:31,919
Speaker 1: like a home game, and so when the opposing offense

518
00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:33,040
Speaker 1: is on the field.

519
00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:34,840
Speaker 2: Nobody thinks of it through that light.

520
00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:37,879
Speaker 1: There were there were actual chants of defense last week

521
00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:39,280
Speaker 1: in Las.

522
00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:40,680
Speaker 2: Vegas when Jimmy snapping the ball.

523
00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:44,080
Speaker 1: When Jimmy snapping the ball and audible sounds like you

524
00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:44,600
Speaker 1: could hear it.

525
00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:48,480
Speaker 2: That's great, But nobody thinks about that, like on the road,

526
00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:51,720
Speaker 2: if you're it's supposed to be. Yeah, it should be

527
00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:54,479
Speaker 2: easy for you on defense, but it probably isn't. Like

528
00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:57,119
Speaker 2: I forget exactly what it was what they said, but

529
00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:00,359
Speaker 2: you relayed the story. And this was years ago offviously,

530
00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:01,919
Speaker 2: but the COVID year when there was no one in

531
00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:05,119
Speaker 2: the stands, I think you interviewed Cam Hayward or a

532
00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:07,159
Speaker 2: bunch of guys did, and he said something along the

533
00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:09,639
Speaker 2: lines of we could kind of like hear them talking.

534
00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:13,240
Speaker 1: You know, it was like you hear all the checks,

535
00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:15,120
Speaker 1: you hear everything is going on.

536
00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:17,879
Speaker 2: You're so used to not hearing. Yeah, that wow, it

537
00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:21,120
Speaker 2: was a different game just from that perspective, to one

538
00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:22,679
Speaker 2: corner could probably yell to the other corners.

539
00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:25,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, to that point, Matt, We've got a couple of guys,

540
00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:29,680
Speaker 1: one on each side of this this year who changed

541
00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:35,240
Speaker 1: teams laid in the process, the Steelers, the Steelers Kendrick

542
00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:40,280
Speaker 1: Green to the Texans. The Steelers then sign after he's released,

543
00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:46,720
Speaker 1: Desmond King from the Texans. Does that give either team

544
00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:47,760
Speaker 1: an advantage?

545
00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:48,919
Speaker 2: Absolutely?

546
00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:51,720
Speaker 1: Is there? Is there? Do they cancel each other out?

547
00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:54,000
Speaker 1: Or is there one team that gets a greater advantage

548
00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:57,520
Speaker 1: Because I already I asked Kenny Pickett that I said

549
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Speaker 1: when we spoke to him on Wednesday, I'm like, have

550
00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:01,720
Speaker 1: you been paid King Desmond King's brain this week? And

551
00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:03,359
Speaker 1: he goes, yeah, we've talked. I'm sure.

552
00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:09,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Texans have a bigger advantage, not because Green

553
00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:13,800
Speaker 2: smarter than King or any like that. It's just the

554
00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:17,080
Speaker 2: defense that King came from just doesn't throw much at you.

555
00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:19,520
Speaker 1: But that can that can be something that can be

556
00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:22,359
Speaker 1: an advantage as well, knowing that, well, when this guy,

557
00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:25,560
Speaker 1: when that corner is there, that's where he's going to be.

558
00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:27,560
Speaker 1: He's not going to be over here when I snapped

559
00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:28,080
Speaker 1: the football.

560
00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:30,600
Speaker 2: I mean I said that because, as you've mentioned many times,

561
00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:32,359
Speaker 2: that's one of the heaviest zone teams.

562
00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:34,160
Speaker 1: But their line checks and things of that nature.

563
00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:37,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, but they do very few stunts. They do very

564
00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:40,560
Speaker 2: little blitzing. It's a lot of zone. It's a lot

565
00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:41,280
Speaker 2: of too.

566
00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:44,280
Speaker 1: High I mean, King would be able to tell Pickett like,

567
00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:48,320
Speaker 1: look the slot corner. We had like two plays where

568
00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:50,640
Speaker 1: he actually comes off the you know where he blitzes.

569
00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:54,440
Speaker 1: That's it. So you don't have to expect that this week.

570
00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:56,240
Speaker 1: Yeah he might do it once, but he's not doing

571
00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:57,080
Speaker 1: it a bunch of times.

572
00:24:57,240 --> 00:25:02,720
Speaker 2: See, I'm thinking too. Green can tell his new line mates,

573
00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:07,360
Speaker 2: boy Benton's got really heavy hands, or you know, high

574
00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:08,920
Speaker 2: Smith's get off is his best thing.

575
00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:11,560
Speaker 1: But those are things that even if you know it,

576
00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:13,040
Speaker 1: you still have to stop.

577
00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:15,480
Speaker 2: It, and there's advanced scouts telling you. But I think

578
00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:18,520
Speaker 2: it's different coming from a player that fought these guys

579
00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:18,879
Speaker 2: every day.

580
00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,440
Speaker 1: Yet at the same time those guys lining up against

581
00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:24,199
Speaker 1: Kendrick Green, Well, I know he can't handle this.

582
00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:28,560
Speaker 2: Well, that's yeah, I'm sure, Nico and Dell said, I

583
00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:31,399
Speaker 2: remember beating King in practice with this, but there's not

584
00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:32,200
Speaker 2: as big a body.

585
00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:34,280
Speaker 1: Of work, and they may not be out there against him.

586
00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:37,960
Speaker 2: I wonder I'm a cut on Matt Canada. Everyone will

587
00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:40,639
Speaker 2: take that that way. But is there a run tell

588
00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:44,639
Speaker 2: that the Steelers have that Green knows, like, I know

589
00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:46,680
Speaker 2: the Steelers never pull their guards, you know, I mean

590
00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:48,600
Speaker 2: they haven't. They don't pull their guards, so they haven't

591
00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:51,520
Speaker 2: all year. Is there some reason that you could say,

592
00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:53,760
Speaker 2: if you see a guard poll, this is going to happen.

593
00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:54,879
Speaker 2: I don't know, you know what I mean? Like, is

594
00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:57,520
Speaker 2: there a couple of things that Green would know that

595
00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:00,840
Speaker 2: the opponent might not be able to find out on first.

596
00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:02,879
Speaker 1: At the same time, And I've gotten caught up in

597
00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:07,600
Speaker 1: this at times as a baseball coach. When you figure

598
00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:12,480
Speaker 1: out a tell like that, man, you have to keep

599
00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:16,359
Speaker 1: it to yourself because if the other team then knows

600
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:19,560
Speaker 1: you know the tell, then the pitcher all of a sudden,

601
00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:22,399
Speaker 1: you know, if I'm they figure out that you figured

602
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:24,560
Speaker 1: out their tell. Now he's going to do it on

603
00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:26,520
Speaker 1: every pitch or he's going to or you know he's

604
00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:27,960
Speaker 1: going to do the opposite, and all of a sudden,

605
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:29,879
Speaker 1: your guys are standing there looking at fastballs down the

606
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:31,560
Speaker 1: middle because they were expecting a curveball.

607
00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:33,960
Speaker 2: That's supposed to be a curveball, coach, and then.

608
00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:36,200
Speaker 1: Your standard like, well it was the first seven times

609
00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:39,480
Speaker 1: he did it, Like now they figured me out. It's

610
00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:41,120
Speaker 1: not one hundred percent.

611
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:44,840
Speaker 2: No, but it is interesting. I mean, especially in the

612
00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:48,439
Speaker 2: defensive backfield and O line, because people don't look at

613
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:50,000
Speaker 2: those guys the same. But I think a lot of

614
00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:54,960
Speaker 2: communication in those groups. They're both reactionary positions a high

615
00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:58,399
Speaker 2: percentage of the time that playing with that guy a

616
00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:01,960
Speaker 2: lot is really helpful that I think it is noteworthy

617
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:03,720
Speaker 2: to bring it up that the Steelers grabbed one and

618
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:04,920
Speaker 2: the Texans grabbed yeah.

619
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:07,160
Speaker 1: And and the fact that it's a defensive back. King

620
00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:09,640
Speaker 1: is a defensive back who played both outside and inside.

621
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:11,439
Speaker 1: That too, he's played like you got to kind of

622
00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:12,920
Speaker 1: know the whole defense if you're that guy.

623
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:14,879
Speaker 2: And he's been around the block long yeah too. He's

624
00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:16,240
Speaker 2: played more snaps in the league.

625
00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:19,280
Speaker 1: So it's probably a little easier for him to verbalize

626
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:21,600
Speaker 1: what they're trying to do.

627
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:25,680
Speaker 2: So, and he's also going to tell his other corners, Hey,

628
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:29,359
Speaker 2: Tank Dell's speed is real, right, those those things are Nico.

629
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:33,000
Speaker 2: Nico reminds me of pick or pickings in in practice.

630
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:35,720
Speaker 2: Don't get and jump all situations with them or whatever.

631
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:37,960
Speaker 1: You know, jam is left shoulder. He has trouble getting

632
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:39,480
Speaker 1: off the line if he jammed the left shoulder, not

633
00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:40,000
Speaker 1: the right, not.

634
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:42,160
Speaker 2: The right right. He's really strong here, or you can

635
00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:45,320
Speaker 2: guide him this way, or boy, Robert Woods really sets

636
00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:47,200
Speaker 2: that post route up extremely well.

637
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:51,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just it's a different situation than if these

638
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:53,159
Speaker 1: guys had joined the team in the off season.

639
00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:56,399
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, like like these versus Eagles.

640
00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:59,560
Speaker 1: You go all the way through training camp. Your checks

641
00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:02,639
Speaker 1: and stuff are your checks at that point. Now you

642
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:05,840
Speaker 1: may change them up now a few weeks into the season,

643
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 1: but all off season, this is what this is what

644
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:10,199
Speaker 1: we were doing, This is what our emphasis was, this

645
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:12,359
Speaker 1: is what we wanted to do. A practiced against this

646
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:14,320
Speaker 1: guy at a thousand times. You know, I had a

647
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:16,520
Speaker 1: thousand reps against him in the off season. It is

648
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:16,919
Speaker 1: what it is.

649
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:18,320
Speaker 2: I mean, it's a very recent memory.

650
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:18,640
Speaker 1: Yeah.

651
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:20,680
Speaker 2: Again, it's not like picking up solam Allo and be.

652
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:25,480
Speaker 1: Like so in that regard, again, that does give the

653
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:29,080
Speaker 1: Steelers a little bit of insight into the Texans, who

654
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:32,199
Speaker 1: there isn't a big you know, there's a there's a

655
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:34,920
Speaker 1: lot of game tape out there of them with de

656
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:36,200
Speaker 1: Meco Ryans as head coach.

657
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:39,800
Speaker 2: No, I think you're right about that too, And maybe

658
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:42,000
Speaker 2: he is nothing bad to say, but I'm sure he

659
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Speaker 2: has some opinion on Stroud, right, Yeah, I mean he's

660
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Speaker 2: faced him in practice.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, what what what throws did he struggle with

662
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Speaker 1: or what you know, what coverages did.

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Speaker 2: He struggle with? What do you see him having, you know,

664
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Speaker 2: to learn you know what we're what were his stumbling

665
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:58,520
Speaker 2: blocks or what did your buddies in the receiver room say, Man,

666
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Speaker 2: CJ can't get this, or why he's ahead of schedule

667
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 2: on that, you know. I mean, that kind of stuff's

668
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Speaker 2: very valuable.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so it'll be interesting to see, you know, if

670
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Speaker 1: that plays a factor at all in this game, and

671
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Speaker 1: we probably won't ever know.

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Speaker 2: It's a hard thing to figure out.

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Speaker 1: Sure, not that anybody's gonna say, well, yeah, I think

674
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Speaker 1: you know Kenny Pick is going to throw a three

675
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Speaker 1: touchdown passing. Well, Desmond King told me when when they

676
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Speaker 1: do this.

677
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Speaker 2: But I do think like you probably treat Kendrick Green different,

678
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Speaker 2: Like I think you're gonna be someone head up on

679
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:31,120
Speaker 2: him more than I mean yeah, I mean, guards don't

680
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Speaker 2: get that treatment like centers doo. But I bet he does.

681
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I bet. I mean again, you know what he

682
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Speaker 1: has struggled with throughout his career. I'm not going to

683
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Speaker 1: let him get to the second level, right right. I'm

684
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Speaker 1: gonna make sure maybe I even have a guy over

685
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Speaker 1: top of him and then he doesn't rush him, and

686
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Speaker 1: then Kendrick standing there blocking air.

687
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Speaker 2: Then all the proof you need of that is the

688
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Speaker 2: fullback stuff they did with him. They know what he's

689
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Speaker 2: like in space. Yeah, he's very good in space, really

690
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:56,480
Speaker 2: good in space, and he can really run. Yeah, don't

691
00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 2: let him get there. I mean that's they know the

692
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Speaker 2: book on him better than anybody.

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Speaker 1: That's just a little game within the game that does

694
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Speaker 1: is very specific to this week on King and Green.

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Speaker 2: Interesting.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why you don't see a lot of that

697
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:12,400
Speaker 1: in divisional stuff. You don't see division opponent. You don't

698
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Speaker 1: see players switching division teams a lot.

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Speaker 2: I mean, a real key is if you hired their

700
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Speaker 2: linebacker coach to be your defensive coordinator. Yeah, I mean

701
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Speaker 2: that kind of stuff is unbelievably valuable.

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Speaker 1: Do you think that so Ryan's comes from the forty

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Speaker 1: nine ers, the forty nine Ers are still running that

704
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Speaker 1: same defense obviously.

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Speaker 2: Sure.

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Speaker 1: I assume everything that he's doing defensively is what he

707
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Speaker 1: did in San Francisco.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he just doesn't warm.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he just doesn't have the studs to do it with.

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Speaker 2: Even their offenses. I mean they played a fullback like

711
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Speaker 2: fifty percent.

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Speaker 1: So move you just played San Francisco to open the season.

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Speaker 1: He's probably spent extra time in the offseason getting ready

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Speaker 1: for San Francisco. They don't have the same horses that

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Speaker 1: San Francisco does. I mean that should have the same philosophy,

716
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Speaker 1: same philosophy, but not the same not the players aren't

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Speaker 1: as good for the Steelers. Yeah, that should be a

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Speaker 1: benefit of the Steelers.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we've already sort of game plan for this version,

720
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:05,840
Speaker 2: you know, and this is the.

721
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Speaker 1: And quite frankly didn't get to use half the offense

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Speaker 1: that you that you planned for that game because he

723
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Speaker 1: couldn't get a first down in the first half. So

724
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Speaker 1: there's a lot there that they probably planned on using.

725
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Speaker 1: Against the forty nine ers that they never got to.

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Speaker 2: And then I know they didn't run the ball a

727
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 2: lout against the Niners. This is the best example. But

728
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:25,640
Speaker 2: people don't look at run games. Run games are all

729
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:28,520
Speaker 2: very very much about angles. Well, you know, like boy,

730
00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 2: they love to have two three techniques out there on

731
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Speaker 2: and not a nose on second and long or third

732
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Speaker 2: in medium. And we thought we could run power against that,

733
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Speaker 2: but we still couldn't quite get the angle because you

734
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Speaker 2: know what I mean, because he was he was lined

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Speaker 2: up six, you know six.

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Speaker 1: Or his first step was quicker than we thought or

737
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Speaker 1: something like that.

738
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Speaker 2: But we thought we could get the double on this guy.

739
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 2: But the way they line him up, that's a harder

740
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:53,560
Speaker 2: block than we thought, you know, that kind of thing.

741
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,080
Speaker 1: So little things like that that you learned. So again

742
00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 1: the game within the game.

743
00:31:57,520 --> 00:31:59,240
Speaker 2: Oh coaches coach against coaches.

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00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:02,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, so it'll be interesting. We're gonna get

745
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 1: to another break. He is the Matt Williamson. I am

746
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 1: Dale Lollie. You're listening to the drive here on Steelers

747
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 1: Nation Radio. We'll be back with more right after this.

748
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 1: Welcome back. I'm Dale Lolli. He is Matt Williamson. This

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00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:19,160
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Speaker 2: Very cool. Yeah, cool to go to the draft too,

758
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 2: that would be very cool.

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00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 1: Yeah. So the uh question, and we've already jumped ahead

760
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Speaker 1: on these the question for Saturday, LSU or Ole Miss

761
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:58,200
Speaker 1: which school has produced more Steelers draft picks?

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Speaker 2: Ooh, that's at ever in the world. Yeah, ever, certain

763
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:06,239
Speaker 2: good guard from l s U comes to mind. I

764
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 2: don't have a clue on the answer on that one.

765
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Speaker 2: I mean I can name a few good players from both.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna go l S it's bigger, but I always

767
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 2: think they're tricking us. But I think that the other side.

768
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 2: That's pretty much how I got through.

769
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, you like, there's multiple choices.

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00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 2: Choice better fill in the black.

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00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 1: And then you could I can I call for a

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Speaker 1: what they call it a lifeline.

773
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 2: Friend or get a lifeline exactly. That's why it was

774
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:34,960
Speaker 2: on my neighbor's paper at the desk.

775
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:37,040
Speaker 1: It was always important to figure out who the dumb

776
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:41,280
Speaker 1: person was around you and then not cheat off of them.

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00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 2: Not cheat off of that.

778
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:44,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, or if every you couldn't figure out who the

779
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 1: dumb person was, the dumb person was you?

780
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:49,680
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean there's always a sucker at the

781
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 2: poker with humans spotted them. Go look in the mirror.

782
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:53,040
Speaker 2: Yeah right.

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Speaker 1: I had I don't know if you ever had any

784
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:57,040
Speaker 1: classes like these, but I had a It was a

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Speaker 1: Greek classics class in college. Well, and I love the Greek.

786
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Speaker 1: I love the Greek and Roman classics. I read all

787
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 1: the like all this stuff when I was a kid.

788
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 1: I had already read like the Iliad in the Odyssey,

789
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:12,400
Speaker 1: all that stuff when I was a kid. Uh So,

790
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 1: I didn't even have to study for this class, just

791
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 1: killed it. But the teacher for the class, the professor

792
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 1: was from He he had studied at Princeton, and I

793
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Speaker 1: guess that when he went to Princeton they were on

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00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 1: the honor system. M So he would he would hand

795
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Speaker 1: out a test and then leave the room.

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Speaker 2: Wow, and you didn't need to help.

797
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 1: I didn't need to help, but everybody quickly figured out

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Speaker 1: that I was the guy to go to in that class.

799
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:44,800
Speaker 1: And so I'm buzzing through this that everybody else is

800
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:47,279
Speaker 1: standing up and looking around, and.

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Speaker 2: The honor system is that's walking out a pretty thin

802
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:54,960
Speaker 2: level for a bunch of folks.

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Speaker 1: This was a pit Titus phone. I was there. It

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Speaker 1: pitched at pitt Johnstown. When after I transferred there, I

805
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:05,960
Speaker 1: had a class and this was uh Spanish Literature, and

806
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:10,200
Speaker 1: I went to the first couple of classes. This is

807
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Speaker 1: my senior year, which I didn't go to any classes

808
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:16,120
Speaker 1: my senior year. They were all journalism class except for

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Speaker 1: these Spanish lit classes. We never said anything about tests

810
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:23,160
Speaker 1: or anything like that. We just read the books and

811
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Speaker 1: then talked about them, okay, And so I just quick

812
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:31,719
Speaker 1: going to the class like we're never had we don't

813
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 1: have any quizes, we're not having any tests.

814
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Speaker 2: So we get to be like a week left books, yeah,

815
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Speaker 2: a week left.

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Speaker 1: In the in the semester, and there were four or

817
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Speaker 1: five There were only like seven or eight people in

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Speaker 1: the class.

819
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:46,560
Speaker 2: So it was one of those classes and they.

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Speaker 1: Were they were all people that I knew because I

821
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Speaker 1: was they were upper classmen, and so one of them

822
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Speaker 1: pretty quick, one of the masked. At the end of

823
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Speaker 1: the semester, the professor, how are we going to be

824
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Speaker 1: graded in this course? We haven't had any tests? He said, Well,

825
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Speaker 1: my idea was I would just give everybody a B,

826
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Speaker 1: and if you think you deserved better than a BEE,

827
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Speaker 1: come talk to me and we'll discuss it. Wow, they

828
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Speaker 1: all showed up. I'm sitting back in my apartment and

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Speaker 1: a couple of my roommates come back. They were in

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Speaker 1: the class as well, and they're all just complaining, like

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Speaker 1: I can't believe he's gonna give us all B. You're

832
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Speaker 1: gonna get a B and you didn't even go to class.

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00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:26,800
Speaker 2: I'm like, see, that would have been a godsend for

834
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Speaker 2: my college experience. But I'm sure a large portion out

835
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Speaker 2: there would be like I would like to earn an A,

836
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:34,799
Speaker 2: you know, like I would have settled for.

837
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Speaker 1: Be perfectly happy to take the B.

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Speaker 2: Especially in your situation too, Like you didn't need to graduate.

839
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Speaker 2: You knew you were in journalism. You're working with a

840
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Speaker 2: paper I.

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Speaker 1: Had at that point. I was working for the student newspaper.

842
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 1: I was a sports editor. I also worked for the

843
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Speaker 1: Tribune Democrat, the newspaper in town in Johnstown, which I

844
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Speaker 1: was working like twenty twenty five hours a week doing

845
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Speaker 1: that sometime, which was all which was more beneficial than

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Speaker 1: any the classes that I Spanish Spanish literature, like you know,

847
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:07,400
Speaker 1: so I mean I was putting in more hours. I

848
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Speaker 1: was putting in forty plus hours.

849
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Speaker 2: A week doing journals, like doing journalism stuff, journalism stuff

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Speaker 2: and all.

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Speaker 1: Like all of my professors at the Tribune Democrat or

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00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:19,239
Speaker 1: all my professors were people that I worked with at

853
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Speaker 1: the Tribune Democrat. So if I had a question about something,

854
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:23,839
Speaker 1: I just go go to the over to the night

855
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 1: news desk and say, hey, there's my layout she does.

856
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 1: She teaches layout and design. So we talked about this stuff.

857
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 1: They're like, I killed my journalism classes. I never had

858
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:34,920
Speaker 1: to go.

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00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, so to be in Spanish lit.

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Speaker 1: Take to be in Spanish Lit. I well over a

861
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 1: three to oh my senior year in both semesters.

862
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:44,920
Speaker 2: I can imagine.

863
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:46,160
Speaker 1: I never never did.

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00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 2: But if I could have got to be layout, Oh.

865
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Speaker 1: If I'd have known young Matt Williams and then I said,

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00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 1: take this Spanish lit.

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Speaker 2: I was major in the foosball at the time. In

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00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 2: the pretty good at though, Matt.

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Speaker 1: So, we have a report from Aaron Wilson, who covers

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00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:07,800
Speaker 1: the Texas, does a great job down there, uh for Houston.

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00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:09,359
Speaker 1: I can't remember which outlet he works for. I think

872
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:12,399
Speaker 1: it's one of the TV stations, but I've known Aaron.

873
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 1: Aaron used to cover the Ravens back in the day.

874
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:23,160
Speaker 1: So Laramie Tunsell, Denzel Perryman, Tevy Air Thomas, and Josh

875
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:26,440
Speaker 1: Jones all not practicing today, all expected to miss the

876
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:30,759
Speaker 1: game against the Steelers. That's their two Yeah, the two

877
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:33,759
Speaker 1: guys who've played left tackle this year, and and if

878
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:35,840
Speaker 1: they had them both Tunsell would be at left tackle

879
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 1: and Jones would be at left guard. They're starting middle linebacker.

880
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, which if I were them, I'd rather play the

881
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 2: young guys anyway. But he's there to be a leader.

882
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:49,680
Speaker 1: A thumper and help help with their run.

883
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 2: Stocks a quality player.

884
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:57,160
Speaker 1: And their nickel corner. And you already know that the

885
00:38:57,239 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 1: other cornerback, Stingley's out. He's on ir he.

886
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:06,839
Speaker 2: Got drafted four sauce FLA. So I don't know if

887
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:10,359
Speaker 2: every Mike pursuitter called me today, he's like, can you

888
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:13,800
Speaker 2: tell me the history of this off Houston O line,

889
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:16,840
Speaker 2: and when we were done with the conversation, he was

890
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 2: like he was more confused than it was, and he

891
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 2: just went wow. Like I even people in you know,

892
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 2: in the media that know a lot like Mike does,

893
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 2: I don't think realize how the incredibly bad luck this

894
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:28,200
Speaker 2: team has had.

895
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 1: They were trading for, Like they acquired like four guys

896
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:35,239
Speaker 1: right before the season started, including kender Green, including kender Green,

897
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:36,320
Speaker 1: because they needed them.

898
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:39,360
Speaker 2: To start because they got hit so hard. So do

899
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 2: we have five minutes I can tell yeah, I don't

900
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 2: have the Houston O line. Okay, So from left to right,

901
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:48,880
Speaker 2: Laramie tonso everyone remembers the gas bong mask, blah blah blah.

902
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 1: But he's very good.

903
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:52,719
Speaker 2: He's phenomenal and frankly, in that draft or if he

904
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:55,719
Speaker 2: came out now nobody cares about such things. But even

905
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:57,200
Speaker 2: in that draft, he might have been the best player

906
00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:57,360
Speaker 2: in the.

907
00:39:57,400 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 1: Entire They might have cared about the stupidity.

908
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:04,480
Speaker 2: We don't get caught. But anyway, social media, Trent Williams,

909
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 2: who they placed in Week one, is a better left

910
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:10,120
Speaker 2: tackle than Tunsul. That's maybe the end of the list.

911
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:11,839
Speaker 2: If so, it's a very short list. And they gave

912
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:14,000
Speaker 2: him big money. Okay, we got a great left tackle.

913
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:18,400
Speaker 2: We're gonna draft a quarterback. Okay, So their center position,

914
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:23,120
Speaker 2: Brandon Thorne, who does all the O line stuff, said,

915
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:25,360
Speaker 2: and I don't disagree with them. He's like, their center

916
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:27,400
Speaker 2: position was the worst in the league last year. And

917
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:28,960
Speaker 2: I don't even know who thirty one was. It was

918
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:31,800
Speaker 2: the worst center position in the league. So they brought in.

919
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:36,600
Speaker 1: H two Scrugsrugs in the second round, which I thought

920
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:37,960
Speaker 1: they overdrafted him, but.

921
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:39,360
Speaker 2: I thought he was more of a third fourth rounder.

922
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:41,440
Speaker 2: But anyway, if you need one, you need them. They thought,

923
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:44,120
Speaker 2: was that dire of a situation. And then they drafted

924
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:46,000
Speaker 2: kid who started in this game in the sixth round.

925
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 2: So they drafted two one pretty darn high. We're gonna

926
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:51,040
Speaker 2: throw a lot of things at this problem, all right.

927
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:55,040
Speaker 2: And then Shack Mason was a really good guard for

928
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 2: the Patriots, went to the Bucks, played well for them,

929
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:02,239
Speaker 2: but the Bucks have obscene cat problems, so they got

930
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:05,120
Speaker 2: him into trade for like next to nothing. Okay, well

931
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:06,719
Speaker 2: that's three starters taken care of.

932
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:09,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, your right tackle was a guy that you drafted

933
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:10,640
Speaker 1: in the first round a couple of years ago.

934
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:13,440
Speaker 2: Titus Howard, yes, who I also thought they overdrafted, but

935
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:16,279
Speaker 2: the way that worked, remember Dillard went. Everyone thought they

936
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:18,280
Speaker 2: were going to take Dillard just before they got tunsled

937
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:21,239
Speaker 2: and staid. They took Howard from a small school and

938
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:25,280
Speaker 2: he's worked out great at right tackle. They've extended him tremendous. Okay,

939
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:29,600
Speaker 2: and then last year, after taking Stingley at third overall,

940
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:33,759
Speaker 2: they take Kenyan Green, not Kendrick the guard out of

941
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 2: A and M. And he struggled a little as a rookie,

942
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:38,440
Speaker 2: but it sure looked like left to right.

943
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:39,920
Speaker 1: They had an offensive line. Milt.

944
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:42,799
Speaker 2: Five legit dudes that are either first round picks or

945
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 2: making you know.

946
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:46,520
Speaker 1: They either they were either making big money or they

947
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 1: were they were high drafted guy first or second round guys.

948
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 2: Or accommodation of both.

949
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know.

950
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:55,799
Speaker 2: And then Josh Jones, the guy they picked up. I

951
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:58,239
Speaker 2: know they picked him up because of the issues, but

952
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:00,160
Speaker 2: Josh Jones would start for a lot of teams, so

953
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 2: I mean he was a I don't know why the

954
00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 2: Cardinals got rid of him. I know he's a free

955
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:05,279
Speaker 2: agent after the year and they must not be resign him.

956
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:07,960
Speaker 2: They drafted on the first round, but he's played left tackle,

957
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:10,399
Speaker 2: he's played right tackle, he's played guard. So they bring

958
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 2: him in to say he's going to be our sixth guy,

959
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:15,359
Speaker 2: you know, in case of injury, he'll you know, and

960
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:17,680
Speaker 2: then there were some injuries at that point. So they've

961
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:20,840
Speaker 2: invested obscene resources in this. And I'm gonna even account

962
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:22,680
Speaker 2: like Kendrick Green, who we know who he is. I mean,

963
00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:24,960
Speaker 2: he probably shouldn't be starting, but he is by default.

964
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 2: And one of the guys that were counting that I

965
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:31,440
Speaker 2: just mentioned of their top six plays any is actually

966
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 2: on the field anymore. I mean that's where they're at

967
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:33,919
Speaker 2: with their own line.

968
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:36,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I expect I expect the ball to come

969
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:39,800
Speaker 1: out of Stroud's hand very quickly in this game.

970
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:42,240
Speaker 2: And I've praised Stroud and I think he's handled pressure

971
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:45,920
Speaker 2: extremely well. But the pass rushes and defenses they faced

972
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 2: aren't close to this, and they're in worse shape than

973
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 2: they've been now. I mean again we said this yesterday.

974
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:56,280
Speaker 2: George Fance has played right tackle. He probably won't embarrass himself.

975
00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:58,640
Speaker 2: He's got an awful matchup. But the left tackle I

976
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 2: never heard of who's going to start in this game.

977
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:05,400
Speaker 2: So they're playing with their fourth and fifth best tackles.

978
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 1: You know, and in a guard who wasn't on their

979
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:12,480
Speaker 1: roster to start the season, their second center.

980
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:13,960
Speaker 2: Who's the six round pick roll. Yeah yeah, I mean

981
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 2: that's other than that, Mason, Yeah, Mason's alright.

982
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:19,280
Speaker 1: It's like the exact opposite of what the Steelers offensive

983
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 1: line was a year ago.

984
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:23,320
Speaker 2: In terms of lock, in terms of injury. Yeah, yeah, exactly.

985
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:25,959
Speaker 2: I mean it's unheard of. I mean, to be week

986
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:27,960
Speaker 2: three because this was what happened to them last week,

987
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:29,839
Speaker 2: and then carry over to week four and if not more,

988
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 2: to get hit this hard. I mean, it's a great plan.

989
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 1: It's kind of the Steelers offensive line from two seasons ago.

990
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:39,880
Speaker 1: Mm hmm, except not as not as good.

991
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:42,400
Speaker 2: Or steady, except they have more resources put into them

992
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 2: than the Steelers did, like Tunsl's the second highest paid

993
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:46,360
Speaker 2: tackle in the league or something like that.

994
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:48,440
Speaker 1: You get a bunch of guys out there starting games.

995
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, three first round picks aren't.

996
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:51,920
Speaker 1: Supposed to be starting games.

997
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:54,799
Speaker 2: So that's that's what they're dealing with. I mean, you

998
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:56,560
Speaker 2: should really take advantage.

999
00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:58,279
Speaker 1: Of that, and I expect the Steelers to do so.

1000
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:03,399
Speaker 1: But again I would, I would so if that's the case,

1001
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 1: Matt would you would you press the receivers a little

1002
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:08,759
Speaker 1: bit more and hope that your pass rush. Yeah, he's

1003
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:10,800
Speaker 1: gonna get rid of the ball quickly. We're gonna jump everything.

1004
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:13,279
Speaker 2: M hm. Yes, I want a lot of bodies in

1005
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:13,560
Speaker 2: the line.

1006
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:16,880
Speaker 1: I want to make him hold the football. You know,

1007
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:18,719
Speaker 1: his first look is covered, Okay, now he's got to

1008
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:19,960
Speaker 1: go to the second and bam.

1009
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:24,000
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I mean I they can't possibly be gaming

1010
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:26,759
Speaker 2: up a high time to throw. I mean, I don't

1011
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:29,680
Speaker 2: know how you they got a one arm tie behind

1012
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:31,360
Speaker 2: your back with the passgain, Yeah.

1013
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:33,319
Speaker 1: Which is probably a lot of the reason why they

1014
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:35,960
Speaker 1: can't run the football at all at all, because everybody

1015
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:38,600
Speaker 1: assume I mean I didn't notice it against Jacksonville last

1016
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:42,359
Speaker 1: week necessarily, but again, you've got subpar offensive linemen out there.

1017
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:43,960
Speaker 2: You're bad blocking in a lot of people in your

1018
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:44,520
Speaker 2: line scrimmage.

1019
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:47,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, not good, which is which is really what we

1020
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 1: saw again in twenty twenty one. That's what I saw

1021
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:53,400
Speaker 1: from the Steelers. Yeah, like every time the ball was

1022
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:55,879
Speaker 1: snapped there were nine or ten guys within two yards

1023
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:58,200
Speaker 1: of the line of scrimmage. They knew the ball was

1024
00:44:58,239 --> 00:44:58,919
Speaker 1: coming out quick.

1025
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:02,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, Rushing slants and cricketters and bubbles and that kind

1026
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:05,600
Speaker 2: of stuff too. And sure you could try to we'll

1027
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:09,440
Speaker 2: slow down the rush with draws and screens and they

1028
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:12,400
Speaker 2: take a while. Yeah right, they don't care, you know.

1029
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:15,839
Speaker 2: So maybe Tank Dell gets off a press and gets

1030
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:18,960
Speaker 2: behind you for a big play possibly, or Nico shrugged

1031
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 2: somebody off and has some big games.

1032
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:23,279
Speaker 1: This is just I just think everybody's going to be

1033
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:26,080
Speaker 1: near the line of scrimmage. You have mank it back playing.

1034
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:29,400
Speaker 2: Cleans everything up. Yeah, and I assume I think we

1035
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:30,879
Speaker 2: talked about this earlier in the show. I can't remember,

1036
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:33,920
Speaker 2: but their fullback played fifty percent of snaps last week,

1037
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:36,320
Speaker 2: give or take. He's being there all the time helping

1038
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:38,440
Speaker 2: the tight ends aren't gonna be which.

1039
00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:40,319
Speaker 1: Takes one of those takes one of those receivers off

1040
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:40,640
Speaker 1: the field.

1041
00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:43,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they're eligibles. Will probably be two and

1042
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:45,839
Speaker 2: three man routes, you know, a high percentage of the.

1043
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:48,480
Speaker 1: Time trying to max protect and things of that nature.

1044
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:52,719
Speaker 2: So Schultz, the tight end, I assumed he had pass

1045
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:54,640
Speaker 2: blocked a lot because he played a lot of snaps,

1046
00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:57,759
Speaker 2: but he hasn't caught hardly anything. He really hadn't. I mean,

1047
00:45:57,800 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 2: he just spits from running around knowing sort of the ball.

1048
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:01,279
Speaker 1: That might be a higher state thing because you think

1049
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:03,439
Speaker 1: about it, Ohio State never throws their tight ends.

1050
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:05,320
Speaker 2: And I also think just because the receivers keep getting

1051
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:07,799
Speaker 2: better week after week that Nico had a big game,

1052
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:10,480
Speaker 2: Dell at a big game, Woods has been steady. So

1053
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 2: maybe Schultz blocks more too. I don't know.

1054
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:15,280
Speaker 1: I mean every year when when we see these looking

1055
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:17,439
Speaker 1: at the draft stuff, and well, there's just this tight

1056
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:19,360
Speaker 1: end from Ohio State. He didn't catch a balls at

1057
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:21,279
Speaker 1: Ohio State. He ran four to six, but yeah they

1058
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:23,040
Speaker 1: got seven other guys that they want to get the

1059
00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:23,360
Speaker 1: ball to.

1060
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:27,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, they throw out to Smith and Jigbo, right Marvin Harrison,

1061
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:30,239
Speaker 2: Ye know exactly. That could be, absolutely could be.

1062
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:32,480
Speaker 1: So he's just he's this tight end position.

1063
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:33,279
Speaker 2: What is this again?

1064
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:36,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's an extra offensive lineman. Right.

1065
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:39,840
Speaker 2: Then they need it, and I don't think they much choice.

1066
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:42,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's just they actually.

1067
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:45,239
Speaker 2: Play a lot of twenty two personnel too, which then

1068
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:48,400
Speaker 2: takes two of their best offensive players off the field.

1069
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:51,759
Speaker 2: Twenty two is two backs, two tight ends. Well, the

1070
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 2: second back and the tight ends aren't great, but if

1071
00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 2: you have to help the line, that much.

1072
00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:57,760
Speaker 1: They wanted they want to run the football.

1073
00:46:57,920 --> 00:46:59,919
Speaker 2: Oh, they definitely want to. I mean they just can't

1074
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:03,400
Speaker 2: run the football. Yeah yeah, I mean end it's step

1075
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 2: one of a ten step plan in terms of building

1076
00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:06,719
Speaker 2: the Texans.

1077
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:09,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's just not there. And that's about as

1078
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:12,400
Speaker 1: bad as an injury report horrible as you could you

1079
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:13,120
Speaker 1: could find.

1080
00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:15,240
Speaker 2: Especially mixed with who's on ir already.

1081
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:18,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, it's just awful. Yeah, brutal, brutal for

1082
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:20,040
Speaker 1: a young team that well.

1083
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:22,440
Speaker 2: And the quarterback's kind of overcoming it. I mean it's

1084
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:24,839
Speaker 2: I'm shocked that he hasn't Derek card it by now,

1085
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:26,399
Speaker 2: you know, or David Carter by now.

1086
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:27,040
Speaker 1: He might be due.

1087
00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 2: I mean it's gonna happen.

1088
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:29,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, he might be due to have one of those

1089
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:33,280
Speaker 1: rookie moments. And might I mention it again, Mike Tomin

1090
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 1: twenty four and four against rookie quarterbacks in his tenure.

1091
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:38,399
Speaker 2: Yep, Yeah, that's sure. He'll make it tough on him.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we're going to get to another break. He is

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Speaker 1: the Matt Williamson I am Dale Lolley. You're listening to

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Speaker 1: the drive here on Steelers Nation Radio. Coming up next, Matt,

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Speaker 1: we pick our DFST lineup, something you guys all want

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Speaker 1: to be hanging around for.

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Speaker 2: Apparently we're tricky this week.

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Speaker 1: We'll do that right after this on the Drive