1 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:06,520 Speaker 1: Is this a great game or what with the Hall 2 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:07,600 Speaker 1: of Famer Tim Kirkshin. 3 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:10,680 Speaker 2: I'm his son, Jeff Kirkshin. And this has been a. 4 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:14,560 Speaker 1: Crazy couple weeks because today, of the release of this episode, 5 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:17,240 Speaker 1: is Major League Baseball's trade deadline. 6 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 2: That it's one thing after another with this show. 7 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:24,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, Jeff, the trade deadline is one of the best 8 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 3: days of the year because it's complete bedlam. I have 9 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 3: had gms tell me over the last forty five years, 10 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:36,239 Speaker 3: if the day before the trade deadline, if we win tonight, 11 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 3: we're gonna be buyers. 12 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 4: If we lose tonight, we're gonna be sellers. 13 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:44,839 Speaker 3: That's how far it goes when teams are trying to 14 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 3: decide what to do. I you know, if you make 15 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 3: a mistake, this is the This is when gms earn 16 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:52,240 Speaker 3: all their money. 17 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:52,480 Speaker 4: Jim. 18 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 3: Right now, are we in or are we out? Are 19 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:58,639 Speaker 3: we contenders or are we not? Do we trade our 20 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 3: best young player to get somebody to fix the team 21 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:04,760 Speaker 3: now or do we hang on because deep down inside 22 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:06,400 Speaker 3: we know we're. 23 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:06,959 Speaker 4: Not a champion. 24 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:10,319 Speaker 3: That's what today is all about, and that's why the 25 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:13,919 Speaker 3: gms are under enormous pressure. And I promise you, Jeff 26 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 3: something will happen today that nobody saw coming. It happens 27 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:21,320 Speaker 3: every year where you just go, wait, they weren't supposed 28 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 3: to trade him. 29 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 4: It's going to happen, and that's what makes today so intriguing. 30 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 1: So we are actually going to release a bonus episode tomorrow, 31 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 1: so that will be Friday, August first, in order to 32 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 1: just do it's going to be small, it's going to 33 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 1: be quick, but it's going to be our response to 34 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 1: the trade deadline. The winners, the losers, you know, who's buying, 35 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 1: who's selling, just going through all the trades really. 36 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:46,559 Speaker 2: Fast to keep you updated on the feed. 37 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 1: So that'll be a bonus episode tomorrow, Friday, August first, 38 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 1: dead Trade deadline time though, Oh. 39 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 3: Jeff, there are a million trade deadline stories, the players 40 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 3: who have been dealt at the trade deadline. It's a 41 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 3: stunning line for Team tim Today, I'll have the all 42 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 3: traded at the deadline. 43 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 4: Team Catcher through three pictures. 44 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 3: I could have done twenty pictures. That's how many have moved. 45 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 3: I'll never forget, Jeff. When I covered the Orioles for 46 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 3: the Baltimore Sun in nineteen eighty eight, they traded fred 47 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:21,839 Speaker 3: Linn to the Tigers. And the Tigers were a contender 48 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 3: and the Orioles were not. But back then, Jeff and 49 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:28,920 Speaker 3: I'll be close on the problems with it was you 50 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 3: had to be you had to be with your new 51 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 3: team by September the first, otherwise you would not be 52 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 3: eligible for the playoffs, and I mean physically with the team. 53 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 3: So fred Lynn got traded on August the thirty first, 54 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 3: nineteen eighty eight, and it was such a late trade. 55 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 3: There was a question whether he was going to get 56 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 3: to his new team before September the first, and they 57 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:58,639 Speaker 3: ended up determining that fred Linn was in an airplane 58 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 3: over mission at the time that midnight hit. I think 59 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 3: I have this right, and therefore the trade was allowed 60 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:08,639 Speaker 3: to go through. 61 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 4: Those rules are no longer in place, But. 62 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 3: That was pretty pretty bizarre that, Oh, yes, he's in 63 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 3: airspace in Michigan where the Tigers play, so therefore that 64 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 3: trade is complete. 65 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 4: Can you believe how crazy that was? 66 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 1: No, And I think the only thing that might rival 67 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:29,360 Speaker 1: that is a trade that already happened ahead of this 68 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:34,080 Speaker 1: year's trade deadline was Sir Anthony Dominguez playing in a 69 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 1: double header and he was traded to the other team 70 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 1: of the double header, so he plays the first game 71 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 1: with the Orioles at Camden Yards, and then between the 72 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 1: games he switched teams and then played as a member 73 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 1: of the Blue Jays. 74 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 3: Right, It's bizarre. So the Elias looked it up. Sixth 75 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 3: time in the last thirty years that a pitcher has 76 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 3: pitched for one team and then pitched for the team 77 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 3: he was traded for in a three day span. 78 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 4: I mean, it was just but. 79 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 3: This was the most stunning example of that. He just 80 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 3: walked across, walked through the you know, walked to the 81 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 3: other clubhouse. 82 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 4: It was absolutely crazy. 83 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:19,480 Speaker 3: And speaking of Baltimore, Jeff, I was there in nineteen 84 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 3: ninety in the Orioles Clubhouse when the Red Sox traded 85 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 3: Jeff Bagwell, who was a minor league third baseman, to 86 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 3: Houston for Larry Anderson, who was. 87 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 4: A really good relief pitcher. 88 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:36,279 Speaker 3: And I'll never forget Davey Lopes, one of the best 89 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 3: baseball guys I've ever met in my life, looked at 90 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 3: me in the Orioles Clubhouse and said, well, the Red 91 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:46,279 Speaker 3: Sox just won the division because they got Larry Anderson. 92 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 3: And Larry Anderson was really good and he pitched well 93 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:53,039 Speaker 3: and they won the division, but you have to look 94 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:56,040 Speaker 3: a little further beyond that, because they ended up trading 95 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 3: for Jeff Bagwell, who went on to have a Hall 96 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 3: of Fame career his entire career for the Houston Astros. 97 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:04,719 Speaker 2: It's crazy. 98 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 1: I love seeing how draft picks, you know, pan out 99 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 1: in the NBA or whatever it might be, or in 100 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 1: the NFL, and when you trade picks, and this is 101 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:17,719 Speaker 1: the great example of trading prospects, Like, how did everybody? 102 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:20,239 Speaker 2: And they got a Hall of Famer out of this trade? 103 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 2: For goodness sake? 104 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 3: Right, And remember, Jeff, the trade deadline used to be 105 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:29,839 Speaker 3: at midnight Eastern time. Now it's at six pm Eastern time, 106 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:32,799 Speaker 3: which makes it a lot easier to deal with. Because 107 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 3: in nineteen ninety eight, in one of the biggest trade 108 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 3: deadline deals ever, Randy Johnson went from Seattle to Houston, 109 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 3: and when Baseball Tonight went off the air at midnight, 110 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:48,040 Speaker 3: he had not been traded. And but back then, you know, 111 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 3: you got to put all the deals together, and even 112 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 3: though the deadline had passed a few minutes after midnight, 113 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 3: Randy Johnson's trade actually went through and caused total bedlam 114 00:05:59,000 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 3: for Baseball Tonight. 115 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:02,119 Speaker 4: But that's the way it worked back then. 116 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 3: Fortunately, we won't have too many problems like that with 117 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 3: a six pm deadline. 118 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:11,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, I always forget that one year he spent in Houston. 119 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 1: For a second, I thought you were mistaken, But he 120 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 1: spent one year in Houston before going to the Diamondbacks 121 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 1: and having the career. 122 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 3: Well, I only spent a couple months with Houston and 123 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:25,039 Speaker 3: he was absolutely overpowering. But then he lost a couple 124 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 3: games in the playoffs. Kevin Brown out pitched him in 125 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:31,480 Speaker 3: one game. So those are just a few trade deadline stories, 126 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:34,720 Speaker 3: and I promise you we'll have more tonight. Something crazy 127 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:39,040 Speaker 3: is going to happen, especially between four and six pm today, 128 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 3: in the final minutes. 129 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:42,279 Speaker 4: It's going to just make us slap our heads. 130 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 1: Absolutely Well, all right, Dad, we gotta quickly say thank 131 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:49,479 Speaker 1: you to Tony gwyn Junior. What a great guest he 132 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:53,160 Speaker 1: was yesterday. So much fun to get to talk with. 133 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 3: Him, right, Tony Gwynn Junior, former point guard in high school. 134 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 3: Still by favorite story out of that is I was 135 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 3: Dad yelled at him for turning the ball over. We 136 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 3: didn't even yell at him, He just wondered, what are 137 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:09,039 Speaker 3: you doing? I've never seen anybody turn the ball over. 138 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 4: Ten times in a high school game. Hilarious. 139 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 1: So if you missed it, make sure to go back 140 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 1: an episode on the Feed and listen to Tony Gwinn 141 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 1: Junior Dad the takeaways, and I already know where we're starting, 142 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 1: the terribly sad news of the passing of Hall of 143 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 1: Famer Ryan Samberg. 144 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 3: Right, Ryan Samberg, Jeff, let's be clear, is one of 145 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 3: the great defensive second basemen of all time and one 146 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 3: of the great second basemen of all time. He's one 147 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 3: of three second basemen ever, joining Joe Morgan and Craig Biggio, 148 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 3: to have two hundred and fifty home runs and three 149 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 3: hundred steals. So he was a really good offensive player 150 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 3: at forty homers one year, won the MVP in nineteen 151 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 3: eighty four, but it was his defense that were most 152 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 3: We remember him most fondly for because there was an 153 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 3: elegance to the way that he played the position. 154 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 4: He was absolutely tremendous. 155 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 3: And by the way, Jeff, I told him a story 156 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 3: once about how that cal Ripkin had told me that 157 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 3: in a playoff game with the Red Sox like twenty 158 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 3: years ago, they changed the sign on the mound, Beckett 159 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 3: and Jason Vertek the catcher, and didn't bother to tell 160 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 3: the rest of the infield that a sign had been 161 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 3: changed between the bat and cal Ripkin was incredulous to this. 162 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 3: He said, not one pitch was ever thrown in a 163 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 3: game in which I played shortstop or third base, and 164 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 3: I didn't know what pitch was coming and what location. 165 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 3: So I told this story to Ryan Sandberg, and I 166 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:41,960 Speaker 3: got halfway through it and he looked at me and 167 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:45,320 Speaker 3: he said, don't tell me that the infielders didn't know 168 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:48,320 Speaker 3: what pitch was coming in a playoff game. And I said, Rhino, 169 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 3: they didn't know, and he went, oh, my gosh. He 170 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:56,320 Speaker 3: goes every single pitch of every game I ever played in. 171 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 3: I knew what pitch was coming and the location of 172 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:04,199 Speaker 3: that pitch, and I relayed that information to Mark Grace, 173 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:07,959 Speaker 3: our first baseman, every single time. That's how devoted he 174 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 3: was to the craft of playing second base in the 175 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:17,199 Speaker 3: major leagues. And he was, you know, back then, Jeff, 176 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 3: you could get crushed at second base on the double play. 177 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:22,560 Speaker 4: We don't do that anymore. It was a bad rule change. 178 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 3: I hate it, but that's the way it works now. 179 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 3: So Lloyd McClendon, former player, former manager, got hit by 180 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:32,320 Speaker 3: a pitch he thought intentionally by the Cubs one day 181 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:35,679 Speaker 3: many years ago. So all he wants is runner at 182 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 3: first base, is to get a double playball, so he 183 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:42,840 Speaker 3: could go in and just crush the shortstop or crush 184 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 3: the second base. I don't think he was actually rooting 185 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 3: for a double play, but he wanted revenge on somebody, 186 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 3: nothing personal. He just wanted to get back at somebody. 187 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 3: So ground ball of the shortstop. It's a double playball, 188 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:59,320 Speaker 3: and he's got his eyes set on Ryan Sandberg and 189 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:00,439 Speaker 3: he thinks got him. 190 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:02,319 Speaker 4: I got him. I got him, And then he said 191 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 4: and then. 192 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 3: He disappeared and completed the double play. This is how 193 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:10,599 Speaker 3: great Ryan Sandberg was around. 194 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:11,320 Speaker 4: The bag at second. 195 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 3: He could kick the bag, get the out at second, 196 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:19,319 Speaker 3: jump over someone or avoid somebody so beautifully, and then 197 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 3: make the. 198 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 4: Throw to first for the double play. That is a 199 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 4: lost art in the game. 200 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 3: And no second baseman did that better than Ryan Samberg. 201 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 2: And from Ozzie to Oral Dad, he made our list right. 202 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 3: Right, the greatest number twenty three of all time. And 203 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:37,680 Speaker 3: he really became a good hitter, Jeff when he went 204 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:40,960 Speaker 3: to the Cubs and Jim Fry, his manager with the Cubs, 205 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 3: he just come from the Phillies. He basically told him, look, 206 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 3: I want you to pull the ball. And he said, 207 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:50,079 Speaker 3: in batting practice, I want you to practice. 208 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:53,560 Speaker 4: Just hitting line drives over the third base, dugout. 209 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 3: That's all I want you to do is get in 210 00:10:56,360 --> 00:11:00,080 Speaker 3: the habit of getting out in front and pulling the 211 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:03,199 Speaker 3: ball over the third base dugout, to get you into 212 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 3: a pull mode. And that's where Ryan Sandberg became the 213 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:09,320 Speaker 3: power hitter that he became. 214 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 1: Wow, all right, Dad, let's go into the rest of 215 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 1: the takeaways that you have prepared. 216 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 4: Okay, So show Aotani. 217 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:20,960 Speaker 3: On Tuesday, Jeff struck out four times in a game. 218 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 3: He struck out four times consecutively in his first four 219 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 3: at bats. And look, I'm trying to present this properly. 220 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 3: A lot of people made a huge deal out of this, 221 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:34,680 Speaker 3: and I certainly understand why he's the odds on favor 222 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 3: to be the National League MVP again. But he's struck 223 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 3: out Jeff four times in the game now six times 224 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:46,839 Speaker 3: in his career. And we've been over this different time, 225 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 3: different era. Tony Gwynn had won three strikeout game Stan 226 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 3: Musil had one, Joe Dimagrio had one. Bill Buckner and 227 00:11:56,080 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 3: Mike Soosha had zero three strikeout get three strikeout games 228 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:05,200 Speaker 3: in their career, and Otani has six four strikeout games. 229 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:07,680 Speaker 3: All this means, Jeff, is the pitching that we see 230 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 3: today is ridiculously good. You know, Otani has struck out 231 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 3: Jev after that game one hundred and twenty nine times 232 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 3: this year. He has struck out one hundred or more 233 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 3: times in every full season of his career. And he's 234 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:25,200 Speaker 3: now got one thousand and forty six strikeouts for his career, 235 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 3: which means in about a month or so, he's going 236 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:32,319 Speaker 3: to have more strikeouts than Ted Williams and Joe DiMaggio 237 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:37,680 Speaker 3: had combined in their careers combined. Will he will pass 238 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 3: them this year. Again, I'm not picking on Otani. He's 239 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 3: the most remarkable player I've ever seen. Just shows you 240 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 3: where the strikeout rate is today. 241 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 4: It's absolutely unbelievable. 242 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:52,720 Speaker 1: Dat Yogi berra had four hundred and fourteen strikeouts and 243 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:55,319 Speaker 1: like seventy five hundred at bats. 244 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 2: That's crazy, Jeff. 245 00:12:57,640 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 3: Again, different time, differentach, different pitching, different stuff. People get 246 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 3: angry when we compare eras, but Yogi Barra in nineteen 247 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:11,680 Speaker 3: fifty struck out twelve times and hit twenty eight home runs. 248 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 3: I mean, please' I know things have really changed, but 249 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 3: you have to point out seasons like that just to 250 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 3: show you the difference in the big leagues between many 251 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 3: many years. 252 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 1: Well, speaking of Yogi Barra, Dad really quick. Last year 253 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:29,839 Speaker 1: we had Lindsey Bearra, his granddaughter, on and I think 254 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 1: that interview just kind of stands the test of time. 255 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:36,840 Speaker 1: So if anybody is listening right now, we get messages 256 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 1: from people all the time that's saying they're new to 257 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:41,440 Speaker 1: the podcast. Go back to season one and listen to 258 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 1: Lindsay Bearra talk about her grandfather's amazing baseball career and 259 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 1: his incredible military career. Dad, we heard some incredible stories 260 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 1: about that, and all of it is documented as well 261 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 1: at the Yogi Berra Museum and Learning Center, which by 262 00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 1: the way, they still have a standing invite for us 263 00:13:58,000 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 1: to get up there and do a podcast there, so 264 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 1: we need to take care of that, Dad, But just 265 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 1: incredible Lindsey Bearra season one. 266 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 2: Go back and listen to that interview. It truly was amazing. 267 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 3: All right, Sorry, backs taking and last strikeout note in 268 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 3: the takeaways Jeff Chase Burns is a really good young 269 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 3: pitcher for the Cincinnati Reds, number two overall pick in 270 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 3: last year's draft. He just joined Rice al Iglesias as 271 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 3: the only Reds ever to strike out ten or more 272 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 3: batters in three straight starts. And this is his rookie year. 273 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 3: He's only been up for a couple of months. But 274 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 3: just to show you how the strikeout craze is out 275 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 3: of control, he is zero to three this year, Jeff, 276 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 3: with a six point two six ERA, and yet he 277 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 3: just did something that only one other Reds pitcher in 278 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 3: the glorious history of that team has ever done. It 279 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 3: just shows you that striking people out is what the 280 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 3: game is all about these days, and we need to 281 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:02,240 Speaker 3: fix that because they're simply too many strikeouts in the game. 282 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 2: All right, Dad, let's jump into the court gins. What 283 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 2: do you have? 284 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 4: All right? 285 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 3: So Bo Bashett of the Blue Jays had an amazing 286 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 3: back to back games. He went five for five and 287 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 3: then he went four for five and his team lost 288 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 3: both games. So I checked, and the last time a 289 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 3: player got four or more hits in back to back 290 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 3: games and his team lost both was Jose Al Tuvey 291 00:15:27,280 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 3: in twenty eighteen, so it's been seven years. The other 292 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 3: thing was Bashett did not score a run in either 293 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 3: of those games. So we got nine hits in two 294 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 3: games back to back and did not score a run. 295 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 3: The last person to do that was Todd Helton. 296 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 4: In nineteen ninety eight. 297 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 3: He got nine hits in two games, didn't score a run, 298 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 3: and the Rockies lost both of those games. Also, so 299 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:56,920 Speaker 3: I just love the box scores. There's no telling what 300 00:15:56,960 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 3: they're gonna bring. Also, we had I got about one 301 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 3: hundred texts for this. We had five sacrifice flies by 302 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 3: the Orioles the other day in one game, so it 303 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 3: tied the major league record, last done by the Mariners 304 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 3: in two thousand and eight. Five sacrifice flies. 305 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 4: In one game. 306 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 3: And the note, the better note is they had four 307 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 3: sacrifice flies in the first three innings. 308 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 4: Of the game. 309 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 3: So here, I am watching the game and I like 310 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 3: ted people text me, I hope you're watching the Oriole 311 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 3: game right now, because of course I wrote a book 312 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 3: called I'm Fascinated by Sacrifice Flies. Ninety four Expos were 313 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 3: the last team to have four sacrifice flies in the 314 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 3: first three innings of a game. So it's been thirty 315 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 3: one years since anybody did that, that's pretty incredible to me. 316 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 3: And the Orioles had two sacrifice flies in the first 317 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 3: inning and two sacrifice flies in the third inning. So 318 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 3: the last team to have two sacrifice flies in two 319 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 3: different innings in one game where the Giants at the 320 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 3: Braves in two thousand and eleven. So needless to say, 321 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 3: there were a bunch of sacrifice flies notes from one 322 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:11,320 Speaker 3: game in Baltimore the other day. 323 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 1: And if you know my dad, you know he's fascinated 324 00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 1: by sacrifice flies. 325 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 2: In fact, my wife Emily's still to this day. 326 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 1: If we're watching a game and someone hits a sacrifice fly, 327 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:24,640 Speaker 1: she'll just look at me and go fascinating. 328 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:29,480 Speaker 3: You know, I wrote a book, as I just told you. 329 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:32,439 Speaker 3: Jeff and Dad levantar on the air. One said, you 330 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:34,920 Speaker 3: wrote a whole book about sacrifice flies. 331 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 2: I said, no, it's just a chapter. 332 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:41,399 Speaker 4: It's one of eighteen chapters. It's about the whole book. 333 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 4: Oh gosh, all right, Jeff. 334 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:47,360 Speaker 3: We had another Duran Duran matchup in Major League Baseball. 335 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 3: Johann Duran for the Twins reliever and Jarn Duran. 336 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:53,440 Speaker 4: For the Red Sox. 337 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:56,840 Speaker 3: So we had a durand this was we had won 338 00:17:56,960 --> 00:18:00,399 Speaker 3: several years ago in roxy Bernstein. I told him about 339 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 3: that on a radio game we were doing in Houston. 340 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:05,399 Speaker 3: What a what a what a chuckle I got out 341 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:06,879 Speaker 3: of that, and he said. 342 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:10,359 Speaker 4: So, what's your favorite durand durantong on the air? And 343 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:12,680 Speaker 4: I said, well, I don't know any of them? 344 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 3: And I think I tested you on this last year, Jeff, 345 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 3: and you didn't know any durand durant songs either, didn't you. 346 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:22,200 Speaker 1: Right, we got in so much trouble, so I don't 347 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:24,760 Speaker 1: even know why you're bringing this up again. I think 348 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:27,199 Speaker 1: it's important to bring up the trouble we got in 349 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:29,439 Speaker 1: that The only one I can remember now is hungry 350 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 1: like a wolf. 351 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 4: That's it. 352 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:31,200 Speaker 2: That's all I know. 353 00:18:31,359 --> 00:18:33,439 Speaker 4: But here's here's the kicker to all that. 354 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:36,359 Speaker 3: When I got home from Houston where we were doing 355 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 3: that game, Terry May from Church had listened to the 356 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:44,240 Speaker 3: podcast where we discussed that we couldn't name a durand 357 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:48,439 Speaker 3: durantong together, and she said hungry like a wolf. But 358 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:52,200 Speaker 3: I said, I got it wrong again. I said angry 359 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:55,680 Speaker 3: like a wolf. So in trying to get it correctly, 360 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 3: I got it wrong again once I didn't know. And 361 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:00,919 Speaker 3: then I got the title the only title I know. 362 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:03,720 Speaker 3: I got it wrong. I think you need to speak 363 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:04,960 Speaker 3: up when things are really bad. 364 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, Dad, I'm supposed to be the pop culture expert 365 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 1: on this show, and I'm bombing all the time. 366 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:13,359 Speaker 2: We can't both be bombing on something like that. 367 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:17,160 Speaker 3: We're supposed to know everything about music. I'm only supposed 368 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:19,280 Speaker 3: to know about baseball, basketball. 369 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 4: And sitcoms from the sixties. We've been over this. You're 370 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:25,359 Speaker 4: in charge of everything else in the world. So, Jeff, 371 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:26,920 Speaker 4: we had a crazy game the other day. 372 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 3: The Royals walked fourteen batters against the Braves, fourteen and 373 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:36,879 Speaker 3: they only struck out four. So in this strikeout era, 374 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:40,360 Speaker 3: the Royals had ten more walks. 375 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:43,639 Speaker 4: Than they had strikeout. So this is the interesting part. 376 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 3: It happened once last year, and that happened on April 377 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 3: the fourteenth. It happened once in twenty twenty three, and 378 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 3: it happened on April fourteenth. So two years in a 379 00:19:57,640 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 3: row a team had ten more walks than strikeouts and 380 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:03,120 Speaker 3: it was on the same day. 381 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:06,639 Speaker 4: That's the best part of the note. Does that you 382 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 4: find that funny? 383 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:11,600 Speaker 1: Only in baseball, Dad, Only in baseball, and only Tim 384 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:13,359 Speaker 1: Kirkshon can find these things. 385 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:13,440 Speaker 4: Mind you. 386 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:16,400 Speaker 3: And before that, the last time a team had ten 387 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:20,760 Speaker 3: more walks than strikeouts was in two thoy fourteen, so 388 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 3: it's hard to do that. But we just had one 389 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 3: the other day and last corks and Jeff I challenged you, 390 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:29,359 Speaker 3: and you're getting really good at this. The pictures of 391 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:33,600 Speaker 3: record in Tuesday's games, I said, just look at one. 392 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:35,640 Speaker 4: It's a giant stretch, but I. 393 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:39,360 Speaker 3: Like it anyway, and you had already discovered it. Explain 394 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:41,120 Speaker 3: to our listeners and our viewers. 395 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, you always put me to the test, so 396 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:45,520 Speaker 1: now I need to get ahead of it. I had 397 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 1: already seen it, but I thought it would be too 398 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 1: much of a stretch, and I would get that iconic. 399 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 3: Yea if they're all too much of a stretch. Okay, 400 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:55,120 Speaker 3: we're not hiding the fact that what we're coming up 401 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:59,719 Speaker 3: with is stupid, it's pointless, it's you know, but I 402 00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 3: like to do it, and people out there seem to 403 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:04,320 Speaker 3: enjoy doing it because we get We had listeners and 404 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 3: viewers all. 405 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 4: The time coming up with things like this. Right. 406 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:10,960 Speaker 1: Max Freed got the win for the New York Yankees 407 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:15,720 Speaker 1: and Joe Boyle got the loss. But Freed is spelt 408 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 1: like fried, fried and boil. 409 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:21,960 Speaker 3: Right, and Jeff, this wouldn't be interesting except for we 410 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:25,479 Speaker 3: had our all cooking team earlier this year, and we 411 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:28,680 Speaker 3: had a boil on it, and we had a freed 412 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 3: on it spelled like fried. 413 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 4: So I'm all good with them. 414 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:35,000 Speaker 2: I'm for it too, Dad. I love a good name 415 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 2: pun so I'm all right. 416 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:40,399 Speaker 1: Count me in two, all right, on this date in 417 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:42,800 Speaker 1: baseball history, Dad, what do you have for us? All right, 418 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:45,359 Speaker 1: I've never heard of this one, but in nineteen twenty nine, 419 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 1: Babe Ruth hit a fungo four hundred and forty seven feet. Now, 420 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 1: it's said in the Baseball Reference this date. 421 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:57,160 Speaker 3: In baseball history. It was a it was a competition, 422 00:21:57,400 --> 00:22:00,879 Speaker 3: and Babe Ruth like broke all the records for hitting 423 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:05,680 Speaker 3: the longest fungo ever. Which I'm not surprised that Babe 424 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 3: Ruth did this, because he was unbelievably strong, had unbelievable power. 425 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 4: But I just love the word. 426 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 3: Fungo, Jeff, I always have a fungo. Anyone who can 427 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:17,919 Speaker 3: hit a fungo. You know, fungo's a very skinny bat, 428 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:20,199 Speaker 3: and it's got a lot more juice to it than 429 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:23,120 Speaker 3: a regular bat. You can obviously hit it farther than 430 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:25,720 Speaker 3: you can hit it with a regular bat like in BP. 431 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:28,359 Speaker 4: But I've always been amazed. 432 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:31,920 Speaker 3: That the greatest fungo guy I've ever seen is SoSE 433 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:36,640 Speaker 3: O Kendo, former Cardinals coach, still coaching. But he told 434 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 3: me once and then he showed me how he could 435 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:42,920 Speaker 3: do it, that he pitched batting practice with a fungo. 436 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:45,720 Speaker 3: He told me, I can hit a ball from the 437 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 3: pitcher's mound across home plate for a strike more often 438 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:52,640 Speaker 3: than not. And he said, and I will never hit 439 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:57,439 Speaker 3: anybody with a pitch. That's how precise he was with 440 00:22:57,560 --> 00:22:59,639 Speaker 3: a fungo. And I said, well, show it to me. 441 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:02,760 Speaker 3: There was a catcher in the cage and he hit 442 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:06,560 Speaker 3: like three straight balls for strikes with his fungo from 443 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:08,600 Speaker 3: the pitcher's mound over home plate. 444 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:12,280 Speaker 1: Where is Scott Van Pelt when you need him? Jose 445 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 1: a ken do with a fungo? 446 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 2: Just tease itself up. 447 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 4: Dad. It's very good, too obvious. 448 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:25,480 Speaker 3: We got to get SVP back on, and we we'll 449 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 3: do that again before the end of the season, all right. 450 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:31,640 Speaker 3: Nineteen seventy eight, Jeff Pete Rose made it forty four hits. 451 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:36,000 Speaker 3: I mean a game in forty four consecutive games, breaking 452 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 3: Wee Willie Keeler's previous record, and of course Demaggio had 453 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 3: fifty six. The point about this, Jeff, is this Joe 454 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:48,399 Speaker 3: DiMaggio hit in fifty six straight games. So Pete Rose 455 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 3: was as great as that was. He's still getting a 456 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:54,800 Speaker 3: hit every day for basically two weeks. That's how short 457 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 3: he was of the record. It just shows you how 458 00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:00,760 Speaker 3: hard fifty six is. You get a hit in forty 459 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 3: four straight games and you're still two weeks short. 460 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:05,639 Speaker 4: That's pretty hard to do. 461 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 2: I think that, along with calverp can unbreakable. 462 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:12,679 Speaker 4: All right, right, Okay, nineteen ninety Nolan Ryan won his 463 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 4: three hundredth game. Nolan Ryan's one of. 464 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 3: The great is the greatest power pitcher of all time, 465 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:21,879 Speaker 3: the hardest pitcher to hit in baseball history. 466 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:23,399 Speaker 4: And I'll never forget this. 467 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:28,320 Speaker 3: I've told you most Jeff of Nolan Ryan stories, but 468 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 3: this one, I don't know if I ever told you. 469 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:34,160 Speaker 3: But the Rangers were in a terrible slump and they 470 00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:35,280 Speaker 3: lost like eight. 471 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:35,879 Speaker 4: Games in a row. 472 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 3: And Ryan gets to the top step of the dugout 473 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:43,280 Speaker 3: before going out to pitch the top of the first inning. 474 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:46,560 Speaker 3: He looks at the entire team and he says, this 475 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:51,200 Speaker 3: ends right here, right now, and then he goes out 476 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:54,720 Speaker 3: and throws like a two hit shutout with fifteen strikeouts. 477 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:58,399 Speaker 3: You know, that's who Nolan Ryan was like. He took 478 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:02,159 Speaker 3: control of that game and said, nobody, nobody is going 479 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 3: to beat me or us today, and that's where the 480 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:11,320 Speaker 3: streak ended. Two thousand and five, Jeff, Wade Bogs, Ryan Sandberg, 481 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:14,400 Speaker 3: and Peter Gammons all went into the Hall of Fame 482 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:17,440 Speaker 3: at the same time. And you know, we saw Wade 483 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 3: Bogs at Cooperstown this weekend. You know, he's beaten cancer. 484 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:24,439 Speaker 3: God blessed Ryan Sandberg and his family. We've lost him. 485 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:26,480 Speaker 4: At age sixty five, way too young. 486 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:30,040 Speaker 3: And Peter Gammons, of course, my one of my great 487 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:33,920 Speaker 3: heroes in journalism, the greatest baseball writer of all time 488 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:36,200 Speaker 3: for me. They all went into the Hall of Fame 489 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:39,840 Speaker 3: twenty years ago today, and finally Jeff. 490 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:42,359 Speaker 4: In nineteen nineteen, Kurt Goudi was born. 491 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:45,920 Speaker 3: And this is just for our older listeners out there, 492 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 3: but I grew up listening to Kurt Goudy. He's one 493 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:53,840 Speaker 3: of the great baseball broadcasters ever. He also did football. 494 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:57,440 Speaker 3: He was tremendous. He also did the NCAA Final four, 495 00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:01,439 Speaker 3: He did golf, he did everything. And I can still 496 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:04,920 Speaker 3: remember so many things that Kurt Gowdy said when I 497 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:06,560 Speaker 3: was a kid, because they're. 498 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:09,919 Speaker 4: Etched in my mind. That you know, Rod Carew his 499 00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 4: nickname is Klein Cli and E. So his name is 500 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:18,159 Speaker 4: Rodney Klein Carew because he was born on a train 501 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:23,760 Speaker 4: and doctor Kleine delivered him and that's where he got 502 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:27,879 Speaker 4: his middle name. These are the stories that Kurt Goudy 503 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 4: used to tell that I will never forget the rest 504 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:32,480 Speaker 4: of my life. And I heard him forty years ago. 505 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:39,880 Speaker 4: So cool. 506 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 1: From Ozzie to Oral. We're counting down the best player 507 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:45,679 Speaker 1: at every number one through fifty five, Dad, and we 508 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:48,920 Speaker 1: are trucking through. We are on to number thirty two. 509 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:52,439 Speaker 3: Okay, we're going with Sandy Kofax at thirty two. He 510 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 3: won an MVP, won three cy Youngs, He won the 511 00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:58,080 Speaker 3: Triple Crown of Pitching three different times. 512 00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 4: He won the World Series MVP twice. 513 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:04,360 Speaker 3: Jeff, go back and look at his postseason numbers, which 514 00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:07,600 Speaker 3: are all, of course World Series numbers, because that's the 515 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:09,639 Speaker 3: only thing he pitched in and there were no divisional 516 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:11,280 Speaker 3: series when he played. 517 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:15,000 Speaker 4: He in his last four years, Jeff, he. 518 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:17,960 Speaker 3: Went ninety seven and twenty seven. And I know we 519 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:21,119 Speaker 3: don't care about wins and losses anymore, but he was 520 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:27,040 Speaker 3: seventy games over five hundred for the last four years 521 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:31,120 Speaker 3: of his career, and then because of an arm injury, 522 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:34,160 Speaker 3: he retired at age thirty one. 523 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:38,080 Speaker 4: And in nineteen sixty five, Jeff, he had three hundred 524 00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 4: and eleven more strikeouts than walks. Think about that for 525 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:45,240 Speaker 4: the second, for a second. 526 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:47,520 Speaker 3: No one's going to strike out three hundred again as 527 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:49,639 Speaker 3: long as I'm alive, Jeff, because they're not going to 528 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:52,760 Speaker 3: be given a chance to throwing up innings to strike. 529 00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:55,240 Speaker 4: Out three hundred. He had three hundred and eleven. 530 00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:58,960 Speaker 3: More strikeouts than walks, three hundred and eighty two strikeouts 531 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:02,800 Speaker 3: seventy one walks in a full season. That was the 532 00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:06,080 Speaker 3: greatness of Sandy Kofax. I wanted to ask Frank Robinson, 533 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:09,240 Speaker 3: who was one of the most ferocious hitters of all time, 534 00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:12,520 Speaker 3: one of the most confident hitters ever. I said, Frank, 535 00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:14,359 Speaker 3: how'd you do against Don Drysdale? 536 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 4: He said good? I hit him good. I said, how'd 537 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:19,920 Speaker 4: you do against Bob Gibson? He said good? I said, 538 00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:22,960 Speaker 4: how about Jan Marischal? He said, oh, I hit him good. 539 00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:25,560 Speaker 4: I said, Frank, how'd you do against Sandy Kofax? And 540 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:27,720 Speaker 4: he went back like this and he goes, no one 541 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 4: could hit that man. That's when I knew how great 542 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:32,480 Speaker 4: Sandy Kofax was. 543 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:35,960 Speaker 1: All right, dad, let's jump in number thirty three. Who's 544 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 1: the best player to wear that number? 545 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:37,960 Speaker 4: Right? 546 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:42,560 Speaker 3: Eddie Murray, no doubt, three thousand hits, five hundred homers, 547 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:47,520 Speaker 3: joins Willie Mays, Hank Aaron, Raphael Palmarow, Alex Rodriguez, Albert Poohols, 548 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:50,120 Speaker 3: and Miguel Cabrera is the only ones to do that. 549 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:53,680 Speaker 3: Rookie of the Year had the most homers a five 550 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:57,600 Speaker 3: hundred and four JEP without a forty homer season. So 551 00:28:57,640 --> 00:28:59,560 Speaker 3: if anyone ever asked you who hit the most homers 552 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:02,640 Speaker 3: without every hitting forty, the answer is Eddie Murray. 553 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:04,440 Speaker 4: I don't think anyone's going to ask you. 554 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:07,640 Speaker 3: That today, Jeff Ashwley, just in case. By the way, 555 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:11,440 Speaker 3: that most without fifty without a fifty. 556 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:12,680 Speaker 4: Homer season is Hank Aaron. 557 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:17,600 Speaker 3: Of course, without a thirty homer season is Al Caline, 558 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 3: and without a twenty homer season is Ron Fairley. 559 00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:23,320 Speaker 4: So we actually looked up all of those things. 560 00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:27,040 Speaker 3: Most homers without ever hitting twenty, thirty, forty, or fifty 561 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:27,680 Speaker 3: in a season. 562 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:31,160 Speaker 1: That I mean, the fact that you have the number 563 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:34,960 Speaker 1: for twenty is just crazy because that's that's pretty even 564 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:38,840 Speaker 1: an accomplishment. It's just kind of a It's bactoy. 565 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 4: Right, it is. 566 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:42,440 Speaker 3: So Eddie Murray was Rookie of the Year in nineteen seventy seven, 567 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 3: and I remember that year. I wasn't covering the team, 568 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 3: but I know that Earl Weaver looked at the writers 569 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:51,400 Speaker 3: and told him, boys, this is the next Hall of 570 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:54,520 Speaker 3: Famer that the Orioles are going to produce. He said 571 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:58,200 Speaker 3: that during Eddie Murray's rookie year, Earl had a great 572 00:29:58,280 --> 00:29:59,080 Speaker 3: look at players. 573 00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:01,000 Speaker 4: But that's how advanced Eddie was. 574 00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:03,280 Speaker 3: And as I've told you, Jeff, after Mickey Mantle, I 575 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:05,840 Speaker 3: think he's the greatest switch hitter of all time. And 576 00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:10,959 Speaker 3: then Pete Rose, you know, Chipper Jones are in that discussion. 577 00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:14,200 Speaker 3: But Eddie became a switch hitter in Double A baseball. 578 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:17,800 Speaker 3: Jimmy Williams was his manager, and Jimmy said, hey, Eddie, 579 00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:19,920 Speaker 3: we're out of the pennant Rais. Why don't you try 580 00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:21,120 Speaker 3: hitting left handed tonight. 581 00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:23,440 Speaker 4: So Eddie said, okay, so. 582 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 3: Batting left handed for the first time in a professional 583 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:29,760 Speaker 3: game went to for four Wow. And I asked him 584 00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:32,600 Speaker 3: years later, this is when Eddie was actually speaking to me, 585 00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:35,640 Speaker 3: because for years and years Eddie did not speak to me. 586 00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:39,200 Speaker 4: But that's that's for another day. It's for another day. 587 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:41,800 Speaker 4: It's not important, ok. Yeah. 588 00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:43,920 Speaker 3: He told me that when he was a kid, they 589 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:46,680 Speaker 3: didn't have enough money to afford a real baseball, so 590 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:50,479 Speaker 3: they used to throw a Crisco can top, like that 591 00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:53,360 Speaker 3: piece of plastic from a Crisco can, and they would 592 00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:55,600 Speaker 3: throw that. He and his brothers, who were all really 593 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:58,479 Speaker 3: good players, and that's and that's how he learned at 594 00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:00,840 Speaker 3: a hit. And he would swing from both sides of 595 00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:02,840 Speaker 3: the plate as a kid, and then he did it 596 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:03,880 Speaker 3: in a double a game. 597 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,840 Speaker 4: And that's how Eddie Murray became a switch hit. 598 00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:11,560 Speaker 2: That is unbelievable. What a great story, right, all right, dad? 599 00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:14,920 Speaker 1: Best of all, tim and celebration of our guest yesterday, 600 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:16,000 Speaker 1: Tony Gwinn Junior. 601 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:18,840 Speaker 2: We're going with the San Diego Padres. 602 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:22,040 Speaker 3: Right, and there's not a close second to Tony Gwinn. 603 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:24,520 Speaker 3: Tony gwyn is one of the great hitters of all time. 604 00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:29,320 Speaker 3: Fifteen time All Star, won eight batting titles. Lifetime three 605 00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:32,760 Speaker 3: thirty eight hitter Jeffy hit three thirty five with two 606 00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 3: strikes on him for a five year period. The only 607 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:39,400 Speaker 3: player who hit higher than he did using all of 608 00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:42,840 Speaker 3: his strikes during that period was Mike Piazza. That's how 609 00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:46,080 Speaker 3: great Tony Gwynn was. We've talked a lot about strikeouts. 610 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:50,960 Speaker 3: His strikeout high was forty in one season. I remember 611 00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:54,000 Speaker 3: talking to him in nineteen ninety about the strikeout craze, 612 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:58,000 Speaker 3: jeff the strikeout craze in nineteen ninety and now it's 613 00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:01,160 Speaker 3: like a thousand times bigger, worse, whatever you want to 614 00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:05,600 Speaker 3: call it. And Tony with that incredibly distinctive voice, I. 615 00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:08,160 Speaker 4: Hate stracking out. I hate stracking out. I'd rather ground 616 00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:10,120 Speaker 4: back to the picture. I hate stracking out. 617 00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:13,320 Speaker 3: And it was really a source of pride for him. 618 00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:18,040 Speaker 3: He had one, as we've already stated, one three strikeout 619 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:21,080 Speaker 3: game in his career and two hundred and ninety seven 620 00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:25,320 Speaker 3: three hit games. Think about that for a second, and 621 00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:29,000 Speaker 3: do you remember any of my favorite Tony gwinn stories 622 00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:32,000 Speaker 3: about making contact using one bat. 623 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:34,320 Speaker 4: Let's see how well you can remember. 624 00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:36,080 Speaker 1: I mean, there's a million of them, but I remember 625 00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:38,280 Speaker 1: the one story of when he used a bat for 626 00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:41,800 Speaker 1: an entire season and then in a spring training game 627 00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:45,520 Speaker 1: he broke it because he took a ball on the 628 00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:48,040 Speaker 1: inside and he broke it to a teammate. 629 00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:48,239 Speaker 4: Right. 630 00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:49,680 Speaker 2: It was during a practice, right. 631 00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:52,360 Speaker 3: So in nineteen ninety four, Tony Gwynn told me he 632 00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:54,479 Speaker 3: used one bat the whole season. 633 00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:56,600 Speaker 4: He only you know, didn't. 634 00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:59,400 Speaker 3: Use it for like very very select games against left 635 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:01,200 Speaker 3: handers that could get the ball in on him and 636 00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:04,520 Speaker 3: maybe break his bat, like Jeff Saro of the Expo. 637 00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:07,520 Speaker 3: So but he basically used one bat the whole year 638 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:12,240 Speaker 3: and never broke it. He called it seven grains of pain. 639 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:15,920 Speaker 3: So the next year, Jeff, you were really close. The 640 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:20,320 Speaker 3: next year, he broke that bat in spring training, hitting 641 00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:24,840 Speaker 3: on a backfield taking batting practice against Rob Peachelo, one 642 00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:27,520 Speaker 3: of the coaches for the Padres. And it's Tony told 643 00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:30,640 Speaker 3: me when I broke that bat, I almost started to cry. 644 00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:34,400 Speaker 3: And Rob Piachelo, the late Rob Pichelo, told me years 645 00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:38,400 Speaker 3: later he said, so did I I almost started to cry. Also, 646 00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:42,680 Speaker 3: that's how great Tony Gwinn was. And years ago Jeff 647 00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:48,440 Speaker 3: an American League team hired a rocket scientist to study 648 00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:52,640 Speaker 3: exit velocity, and among his findings were, Tony Gwinn was 649 00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:53,640 Speaker 3: not a great hitter. 650 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:55,640 Speaker 4: He was a lucky hitter. 651 00:33:55,760 --> 00:34:00,240 Speaker 3: Because his exit velocity didn't match up with some of 652 00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:01,760 Speaker 3: the best hitters in the game. 653 00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:03,280 Speaker 4: Are you kidding me? 654 00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:07,640 Speaker 3: He was a magician with a bat in his hand, 655 00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:11,280 Speaker 3: and he could see a hole and then he would 656 00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:15,040 Speaker 3: just hit it there. That's how great Tony Gwynn was. 657 00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:18,000 Speaker 3: And let's see if you remember what he had on 658 00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:21,279 Speaker 3: the tongue of his spikes. He had a number on 659 00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:25,600 Speaker 3: the tongue of his spikes. That was a reminder when 660 00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:28,120 Speaker 3: if he's ever in trouble at the plate, look down 661 00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:29,320 Speaker 3: at your shoes. 662 00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:30,840 Speaker 4: And that will tell you what to do. Do you 663 00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:31,719 Speaker 4: remember what it was? 664 00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:33,440 Speaker 2: Didn't he write? 665 00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:36,880 Speaker 3: Jeff, you're the five and a half hole, Yes, right, 666 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:41,160 Speaker 3: the five point five holes. Is that you are really listening, Jeff, 667 00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:42,520 Speaker 3: I'm so proud of you. 668 00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:43,480 Speaker 4: Yeah. 669 00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:46,400 Speaker 3: Five point five hole is the hole between the shortstop 670 00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:47,760 Speaker 3: and the third baseman. 671 00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:49,960 Speaker 4: And in went in. 672 00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:51,919 Speaker 3: Doubt, he used to say to himself, hit a hard 673 00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:52,919 Speaker 3: ground ball right there. 674 00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:54,120 Speaker 4: They're not playing you there. 675 00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:56,960 Speaker 3: That's a hit And that's what he was able to do. 676 00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:59,680 Speaker 3: Tony gwyn one of the great hitters of all time, 677 00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:03,360 Speaker 3: and repeat. It was so good having Tony Gwinn Junior 678 00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:05,799 Speaker 3: on yesterday. He made us laugh, he made us cry. 679 00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:07,799 Speaker 4: Was just tremendous. Dad. 680 00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:11,319 Speaker 1: Let's wrap up today's episode with a team Tim, But 681 00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:14,160 Speaker 1: before we get to your list that you teased earlier 682 00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:17,640 Speaker 1: about the trade deadline, we actually have a list from 683 00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:21,239 Speaker 1: one of the members of our family. Josh emailed me 684 00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:25,400 Speaker 1: here and because on Tuesday, if you listen to the episode, 685 00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:27,759 Speaker 1: you know that my dad had to exit the episode 686 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:30,560 Speaker 1: to go get bacon out of the oven because he 687 00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:34,359 Speaker 1: was making a BLT. So Josh had a little bit 688 00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:35,960 Speaker 1: of fun with us and decided to make. 689 00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:40,399 Speaker 2: The All BLT team and the. 690 00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:42,759 Speaker 1: Ultimate stretch of all stretches in some of these but 691 00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:44,280 Speaker 1: I give him a lot of credit for trying. 692 00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:47,279 Speaker 3: All Right, Net Jeff, we have corrupted an entire nation. Now, 693 00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:50,040 Speaker 3: I have corrupted my own son, who is now looking 694 00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:52,200 Speaker 3: for fried boils in. 695 00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:54,240 Speaker 4: The box scores now. 696 00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:57,319 Speaker 3: But Josh, we love you for even trying this. The 697 00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:00,640 Speaker 3: fact that you listen to our podcast and you felt 698 00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:03,840 Speaker 3: compelled to come up with the All BLT Team I 699 00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:05,239 Speaker 3: don't care how bad it is. 700 00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:07,319 Speaker 4: I'm gonna love it anyway. Go ahead, job. 701 00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:10,920 Speaker 1: Our pitchers are Whitey Ford Whitey as in the bread 702 00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:11,760 Speaker 1: white bread. 703 00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:13,240 Speaker 2: We've got Eddie. 704 00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:20,200 Speaker 1: Bacon, Rocky Cherry Tomato, and Ed Head of Lettuce. Right, 705 00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:28,000 Speaker 1: the catcher is Austin Romine Romaine. Ham Hyatt is the 706 00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:32,760 Speaker 1: first baseman. He is a guy named ham Ham Hyatt. 707 00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:35,200 Speaker 1: I'm going to have to remember that, all right, keep going. 708 00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:39,120 Speaker 1: Ham Hyatt is the first baseman. Eddie Mayo is the 709 00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:44,520 Speaker 1: second baseman. Joe Berg or Joe ice Berg he's the 710 00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:49,479 Speaker 1: third baseman. Khalil Green Tomato is the shortstop. The left 711 00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:49,960 Speaker 1: fielder is. 712 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:53,240 Speaker 2: Zach Wheat or Jean Rye depending on your choice. 713 00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:56,600 Speaker 4: Of very good, depending on your your style of bread. 714 00:36:56,680 --> 00:37:01,600 Speaker 1: Turkey sterns, Turkey bacon sterns that I had a'san center. 715 00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:05,480 Speaker 1: And then the right fielder is Piggy Ward born in 716 00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:06,600 Speaker 1: eighteen sixty four. 717 00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:10,160 Speaker 4: All right, Josh, you need a lot of help. 718 00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:12,880 Speaker 3: I hope that didn't take too much time out of 719 00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:15,360 Speaker 3: your day, like so many of these lists take so 720 00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:16,680 Speaker 3: much time out of my day. 721 00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:18,200 Speaker 4: But I love it. It's great, Jeff. 722 00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:22,799 Speaker 3: It just means people are interested in the goofyr pointless 723 00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:26,760 Speaker 3: parts of baseball, which I've been loving for my entire life. 724 00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:29,239 Speaker 1: The final member of his team, Piggy Ward Dad was 725 00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:31,640 Speaker 1: born during the Civil War. 726 00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:35,320 Speaker 2: Think about that he. 727 00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:38,680 Speaker 1: Was born and the country was still in war with 728 00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:39,319 Speaker 1: each other. 729 00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:43,640 Speaker 2: That is unbelievable. Abraham Lincoln was president. That's crazy. 730 00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:48,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just crazy, Jeff. How old baseball is. As 731 00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:51,719 Speaker 3: I've told you many times, baseball is the only sport 732 00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:55,440 Speaker 3: where the modern era is defined as nineteen hundred on. 733 00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:59,879 Speaker 4: That's the modern era before that. Oh my gosh. Great, Okay, Jeff, 734 00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:03,080 Speaker 4: I can't top Josh. But I do have a theme 735 00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:06,799 Speaker 4: for this week since today is the trade deadline, So 736 00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:09,920 Speaker 4: I'm going to go through just a player at each 737 00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:13,760 Speaker 4: position who was traded at the trade deadline. It isn't 738 00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:14,399 Speaker 4: to say that. 739 00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:17,080 Speaker 3: This is the best player traded at each position, but 740 00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:20,279 Speaker 3: all of these have some sort of value, whether it 741 00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:22,439 Speaker 3: was just a huge trade or it led to something big. 742 00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:23,759 Speaker 4: So our catcher, and. 743 00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:26,920 Speaker 3: We're starting in an odd place here is Danny Janssen 744 00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:29,640 Speaker 3: because in twenty twenty four he was traded from the 745 00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:33,799 Speaker 3: Blue Jays to the Red Sox. Jeff, why did I 746 00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:35,520 Speaker 3: choose Danny Jamsen. 747 00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:37,840 Speaker 4: He was on. He was a big. 748 00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:40,560 Speaker 1: Because he was traded at the trade deadline and then 749 00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:41,439 Speaker 1: he had to go. 750 00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:43,160 Speaker 2: They didn't finish a. 751 00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:45,920 Speaker 1: Game a suspended game, so they had to finish it 752 00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:49,080 Speaker 1: after the trade deadline. Ron So he played for two 753 00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:52,879 Speaker 1: different teams on in the same game tech Right. 754 00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:56,600 Speaker 3: So he appeared in the box score for in the 755 00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:59,600 Speaker 3: same game playing for two different teams. Only time that 756 00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:01,400 Speaker 3: had has ever happened. 757 00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:01,880 Speaker 4: Crazy. 758 00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:05,320 Speaker 3: That's the reason Danny Jansen is our catcher first base. 759 00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:09,400 Speaker 3: Two thousand and eight, Mark Tieschera was traded to the Angels, 760 00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:13,560 Speaker 3: which was a huge trade at the time. Our second 761 00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:17,719 Speaker 3: basement is Marco Scudo. In twenty twelve, he went from 762 00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:22,680 Speaker 3: the Rockies to the Giants. Marco Scuro hit five hundred, 763 00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:26,479 Speaker 3: He was fourteen for twenty eight in the NLCS that year, 764 00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:29,960 Speaker 3: and then the Giants ended up winning the World Series 765 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:34,840 Speaker 3: with him as their primary second basement third baseman. Twenty eighteen, 766 00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:38,400 Speaker 3: Manny Machado was traded to the Dodgers. People forget he 767 00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:41,440 Speaker 3: played for the Dodgers, now that he plays for the Padres. 768 00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:43,080 Speaker 4: And let's see if you remember this. 769 00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:46,279 Speaker 3: No mar Garcia Para two thousand and four in a 770 00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:49,400 Speaker 3: three team trade, ended up getting going to the Cubs, 771 00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:53,560 Speaker 3: and Orlando Cabrera came over and was the everyday shortstop 772 00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:56,080 Speaker 3: for the Red Sox in two thousand and four, And 773 00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:57,440 Speaker 3: what happened that year. 774 00:39:57,400 --> 00:39:59,680 Speaker 2: Jeff All the Red Sox broke the curse of the 775 00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:00,879 Speaker 2: band bel. 776 00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:02,359 Speaker 4: Wow amazing all right? 777 00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:06,320 Speaker 3: Another Manny Manny Ramirez is one of our outfielders traded 778 00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:09,560 Speaker 3: to the Dodgers in two thousand and eight. Juan Soto 779 00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:12,640 Speaker 3: was traded to the Padres in twenty twenty two, even 780 00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:16,400 Speaker 3: though it wasn't a deadline deadline deal. And in nineteen 781 00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:20,120 Speaker 3: ninety three, Ricky Henderson was traded from Oakland to the 782 00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:23,879 Speaker 3: Blue Jays and he became an instrumental part of their 783 00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:27,479 Speaker 3: second championship season in a row. They won in ninety two, 784 00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:30,759 Speaker 3: and partly because of Ricky Henderson they won again in 785 00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:34,520 Speaker 3: nineteen ninety three. We told you about Randy Johnson, one 786 00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:38,080 Speaker 3: of our pitchers. Nineteen ninety eight Seattle to Houston. CC 787 00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:41,400 Speaker 3: Sabathia two thousand and eight got traded to the Brewers, 788 00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:45,320 Speaker 3: Jeff and remember he was brilliant with the Brewers, pitched 789 00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:48,680 Speaker 3: on short rest, did whatever he was told That's one 790 00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:51,840 Speaker 3: reason that CC Sabathi is in the Hall of Fame 791 00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:55,120 Speaker 3: is everyone remembers when he went to the Brewers just 792 00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:58,320 Speaker 3: for a couple of months, but he pitched so well 793 00:40:58,680 --> 00:40:59,799 Speaker 3: and was such a work. 794 00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:02,600 Speaker 4: That's what great pitching was all about. 795 00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:06,719 Speaker 3: And so those are my two pictures, both of them 796 00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:09,400 Speaker 3: left handers. Are a bunch of other pictures traded Doyle 797 00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:12,520 Speaker 3: Alexander for John Smoltz or a million trades like that, 798 00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:15,480 Speaker 3: but that is my Those are my team tim Trade 799 00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:17,360 Speaker 3: Deadline team. 800 00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:19,080 Speaker 2: Speaking to the Trade Deadline tomorrow. 801 00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:23,080 Speaker 1: A bonus episode will appear on your feed with our 802 00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:26,759 Speaker 1: thoughts on the final trades that will happen by the 803 00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:30,439 Speaker 1: end of six pm Eastern Standard time today. So all right, dad, 804 00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:32,560 Speaker 1: best of luck with your trade deadline coverage. I know 805 00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:34,879 Speaker 1: you're gonna be all over ESPN and Baseball tonight. You're 806 00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:36,640 Speaker 1: not gonna be sleeping, but we're gonna be watching. 807 00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:39,120 Speaker 3: Well, thank you, Jeff, and thanks for today. We'll talk 808 00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:39,960 Speaker 3: to you next week. 809 00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:43,160 Speaker 2: Well tomorrow, we'll talk to you tomorrow. Talk to you tomorrow. 810 00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:45,640 Speaker 1: Sorry, did you know hear my great tease about the 811 00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:46,400 Speaker 1: bonus episode? 812 00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:49,480 Speaker 4: We're confused by the trade deadline. I've got Ju Hadio 813 00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:50,880 Speaker 4: Suarez on my mind. 814 00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:52,399 Speaker 2: Oh boy, don't we all? 815 00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:54,600 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for listening and as always, thanks 816 00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:55,760 Speaker 1: for being a part of our family.