WEBVTT - Clipper Ship 0:00:02.320 --> 0:00:05.800 If you thought four hours a day, minutes a week 0:00:05.920 --> 0:00:09.400 was enough, think again. He's the last remnants of the 0:00:09.440 --> 0:00:13.600 old Republic, the sole fashion of fairness. He treats crackheads 0:00:13.600 --> 0:00:16.160 and the ghetto gutter the same as the rich pill 0:00:16.200 --> 0:00:20.280 poppers in the penthouse. The clearing House of Hot takes 0:00:20.360 --> 0:00:24.119 break free for something special. The Fifth Hour with Ben 0:00:24.160 --> 0:00:28.960 Maller starts right now as we are in the ale 0:00:29.760 --> 0:00:36.320 everywhere the vast and powerful and ever growing podcast empire 0:00:36.520 --> 0:00:40.320 here at I Heart Media. This is a spinoff show 0:00:40.520 --> 0:00:42.960 from the Overnight. 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It's 0:03:12.800 --> 0:03:16.520 uh quite commendable. Yeah, well, I'm sure we'll get to 0:03:16.560 --> 0:03:18.720 that at some point in another podcast. What kind of 0:03:18.760 --> 0:03:21.880 loser Gascon is? And uh, you know, some people look 0:03:21.880 --> 0:03:26.680 at beautiful women, Guestcon looks at cheeseburgers. That's that's what 0:03:26.720 --> 0:03:29.160 he looks like. But let's get to it. So I'm 0:03:29.160 --> 0:03:31.240 excited we have one of our teammates, so our Fox 0:03:31.280 --> 0:03:34.680 Sports Radio teammates. You hear him on the weekends and 0:03:34.720 --> 0:03:39.800 contributing to shows calling in during the week Katino Mobley 0:03:40.240 --> 0:03:45.040 a long career in the NBA, mostly with the Rockets 0:03:45.160 --> 0:03:48.520 and the Clippers, and as as you know, I'm a 0:03:48.560 --> 0:03:52.000 Clipper apologist, and he was part of a very important 0:03:52.200 --> 0:03:56.600 era in Clipper basketball when they finally won a playoff series. 0:03:56.640 --> 0:04:00.240 The Clippers moved from Buffalo to San Diego and came 0:04:00.240 --> 0:04:04.280 the Clippers in the late nineteen seventies. And after that 0:04:04.360 --> 0:04:06.280 they had to walk around while they were playing with 0:04:06.320 --> 0:04:08.640 paper bags on their head. They were so terrible. They 0:04:08.640 --> 0:04:11.280 hadn't won a playoff series. And then, uh, it wasn't 0:04:11.360 --> 0:04:15.280 until Coatino Mobley arrived as a big free agent signing 0:04:15.280 --> 0:04:17.800 and joined forces with a couple of other guys that 0:04:17.839 --> 0:04:21.520 the Clippers had. In the O six playoffs, they beat 0:04:21.640 --> 0:04:24.720 Carmelo Anthony and the Denver Nuggets and that was the 0:04:24.760 --> 0:04:27.000 first time the franchise had ever won a playoffs. There's 0:04:27.000 --> 0:04:28.520 now the Clippers are one of the top teams. So 0:04:28.640 --> 0:04:31.600 I gotta I gotta ask Aatino about that. But they 0:04:31.640 --> 0:04:34.920 had been in California for like twenty five years, over 0:04:35.000 --> 0:04:37.760 twenty five years, and they had never won a playoff series. 0:04:37.800 --> 0:04:40.280 But it listens big time. NBA is back and all 0:04:40.320 --> 0:04:45.640 the worlds are converging as far as activism in sports. Uh, 0:04:45.680 --> 0:04:49.160 but we welcome in now Coatino Mobley to the Fifth 0:04:49.160 --> 0:04:52.400 Hour with Ben Maller and David Guescon So Cotino, why 0:04:52.400 --> 0:04:55.239 don't we start with this? Sports are back, the NBA 0:04:55.720 --> 0:04:58.680 is back, but the pandemic is still going on. So 0:04:58.720 --> 0:05:01.760 how does this change the for you? Um? I think 0:05:01.839 --> 0:05:04.440 what it does is it changes your mindset. Right. You 0:05:04.520 --> 0:05:07.120 know you're not really focused on one thing. You have 0:05:07.240 --> 0:05:11.560 other distractions, whether it's basketball, baseball, right, different sports or 0:05:11.600 --> 0:05:15.719 different things that you're doing. Um, this second surge has 0:05:15.760 --> 0:05:18.160 put people back in the bubble right as far as 0:05:18.200 --> 0:05:21.080 like their own house and can't really do much. But 0:05:21.440 --> 0:05:23.960 at least you have, you know, some sports and other 0:05:24.000 --> 0:05:26.240 things to take your mind off of like concentrating on 0:05:26.240 --> 0:05:30.800 one thing, right, because sometimes when you you know, uh, 0:05:30.880 --> 0:05:32.880 it's it's it's like it's like the little kid in 0:05:32.920 --> 0:05:36.719 the room where it's dark. Right, if you keep staring 0:05:36.760 --> 0:05:39.080 at something, your your imagination, your mind is going to 0:05:39.200 --> 0:05:43.200 go crazy. Uh and and hopefully luckily we have sports 0:05:43.240 --> 0:05:46.000 now back so your mind doesn't go crazy sitting around 0:05:46.040 --> 0:05:48.760 not focus or anything, but all this so crazy stuff 0:05:48.800 --> 0:05:52.000 that's going on besides sports. Well, and then I mean 0:05:52.279 --> 0:05:54.839 continue the obvious follow up question would either you know, 0:05:55.040 --> 0:05:57.840 I get email from from guys that are very upset 0:05:57.880 --> 0:06:01.200 because it's like all of all of boards people do that. 0:06:01.240 --> 0:06:02.920 You're right, people tune in to kind of get their 0:06:02.920 --> 0:06:05.640 mind off stuff. And then a lot of these leagues 0:06:05.680 --> 0:06:08.480 are now including the NBA which is back now this weekend, 0:06:08.480 --> 0:06:15.039 are fully embracing the the activism while playing. Is how's 0:06:15.080 --> 0:06:16.680 this gonna go over? Continue? Are you played in the 0:06:16.720 --> 0:06:18.640 league for a long time in the NBA, I think 0:06:18.720 --> 0:06:21.479 this will this will work. And what kind of blowback 0:06:21.560 --> 0:06:24.520 is the NBA facing. Well, I don't think it's no 0:06:24.640 --> 0:06:28.760 blowback at all. I mean, listen, if you ended the day, uh, 0:06:29.160 --> 0:06:31.840 if you if you don't talk, if you if you 0:06:31.880 --> 0:06:34.400 don't use your platform, when do you use it? Right, 0:06:34.400 --> 0:06:36.240 You've got to use it when people are sitting there 0:06:36.279 --> 0:06:39.640 glued in. So it doesn't mean they always told us 0:06:39.640 --> 0:06:42.560 when we were younger. You know, if you go out 0:06:42.560 --> 0:06:44.599 of ten kids you know, maybe one or two of them, 0:06:44.640 --> 0:06:47.400 you can change their lives. So it's not saying that 0:06:47.480 --> 0:06:50.320 because you pay Black Lives Matter on the on the ground, 0:06:50.440 --> 0:06:54.920 or because it's just peaceful protesting or whatever it is, 0:06:54.960 --> 0:06:57.440 that everybody's going to change right away. That's not how 0:06:57.480 --> 0:07:01.320 it works, right, But you still have to make it 0:07:01.360 --> 0:07:03.280 a point, right, You have to you have to make 0:07:03.320 --> 0:07:04.840 it a point. You have to keep it in there. 0:07:05.200 --> 0:07:08.599 The ears of you. You hear about all these different 0:07:08.640 --> 0:07:11.800 types of struggles, whether it's uh, you know, black and 0:07:11.880 --> 0:07:14.840 brown people or Jewish people back when it's the Holocaust. 0:07:14.920 --> 0:07:18.960 You you constantly keep hearing all of those different things. 0:07:19.560 --> 0:07:22.120 And when it does is a build awareness. And that's 0:07:22.120 --> 0:07:24.880 what I think we need to have. It's to be 0:07:24.920 --> 0:07:27.320 able to build awareness because I think we can multitask 0:07:27.360 --> 0:07:30.080 as as a society and say, you know what, we 0:07:30.120 --> 0:07:32.400 can have fun, and while we're having fun, we have 0:07:32.480 --> 0:07:35.480 to stay aware that these things are happening. So once 0:07:35.520 --> 0:07:38.240 I'm finished having fun, let me go to this part 0:07:38.280 --> 0:07:40.120 and say, let me help a friend of mine that's 0:07:40.560 --> 0:07:43.000 um Jewish struggle, or help a friend of mine that's 0:07:43.240 --> 0:07:44.960 black and brown that's struggle. To help a friend of 0:07:44.960 --> 0:07:48.320 mine that's you know whatever that's struggling. Like I think 0:07:48.320 --> 0:07:51.440 we can all do that, but you know, I don't think. Uh, 0:07:51.560 --> 0:07:55.040 you know, not putting those things out there is helping either, 0:07:55.280 --> 0:07:57.760 because you know, out of sight, out of mind. And 0:07:57.800 --> 0:08:01.800 that's the big problem when it comes to the the 0:08:01.880 --> 0:08:04.720 systematic racism and all these different things like, oh, that's enough, 0:08:05.080 --> 0:08:08.760 racism was back slaving way back. That's not always true, right, 0:08:08.800 --> 0:08:12.200 two things can be true. It was slavery was before, 0:08:12.280 --> 0:08:15.000 but it's still racism. It's still these different things. It's 0:08:15.040 --> 0:08:17.320 still all these things that are going on if we 0:08:17.440 --> 0:08:21.280 just ignore them. Right, we sit in our households and uh, 0:08:21.360 --> 0:08:25.200 it's uncomfortable for the parents to explain. How do you 0:08:25.280 --> 0:08:28.720 get it through? You have to always say this in life, 0:08:29.200 --> 0:08:31.760 You've got to put yourself in an uncomfortable position in 0:08:31.840 --> 0:08:34.600 the beginning, so later on, when things are uncomfortable, you 0:08:34.760 --> 0:08:38.000 are comfortable. You have to understand things in life. It's 0:08:38.040 --> 0:08:40.360 not just because I'm Italian, or because I'm black, or 0:08:40.360 --> 0:08:42.640 because I'm right, because I'm agent. That's some thing I 0:08:42.800 --> 0:08:45.040 told focus on. You should focus on humanity as a 0:08:45.120 --> 0:08:47.800 whole and try to, you know, put profession on those 0:08:47.880 --> 0:08:49.960 who don't want us to be together. Be sure to 0:08:50.000 --> 0:08:52.760 catch live editions of The Ben Miller Show weekdays at 0:08:52.760 --> 0:08:55.760 two a m. Eastern eleven pm pas Effect on Fox 0:08:55.800 --> 0:08:59.440 Sports Radio and the I Heart Radio app. Well, and 0:08:59.600 --> 0:09:01.960 it isn't I can really understand that. But I get 0:09:02.000 --> 0:09:04.560 email all the time from from people you know that 0:09:04.679 --> 0:09:07.400 are saying their forties or fifties or whatever that love 0:09:07.679 --> 0:09:10.000 sports and grew up. And I think we can all 0:09:10.040 --> 0:09:13.400 agree that sports has really tried to on the court 0:09:13.559 --> 0:09:16.480 or on the field, stayed away from that and tried 0:09:16.520 --> 0:09:19.000 to be a uniting place. And there's people now that 0:09:19.040 --> 0:09:23.160 are like, hey, I'm I'm not gonna watch and I'm 0:09:23.200 --> 0:09:25.560 out of it, and and so what what would you 0:09:25.640 --> 0:09:28.200 tell the people listening to this podcast that? And we 0:09:28.240 --> 0:09:30.480 have many of them continue They're like, hey, I love sports, 0:09:30.480 --> 0:09:33.920 but I can't watch if they politicize sports. What do 0:09:33.960 --> 0:09:40.280 you say to that person? I mean teachers, all, uh, 0:09:41.080 --> 0:09:42.600 I don't. I don't know what to tell you. Right, 0:09:42.679 --> 0:09:46.080 If listening to those types of people, what are you 0:09:46.160 --> 0:09:48.000 doing when you're not watching the sports? Are you finding 0:09:48.000 --> 0:09:50.280 for great causes for women rights that you do for this? 0:09:50.559 --> 0:09:53.560 For that? Are you doing those type of things because 0:09:53.559 --> 0:09:56.120 of the they're sitting, you're saying, I just want to 0:09:56.120 --> 0:10:01.040 watch sports. Cool, watch the sports. Right. It's it's not 0:10:01.120 --> 0:10:03.640 like when Lebron James shooting the three that they're saying 0:10:03.679 --> 0:10:06.040 black lives matter after shoot the three, Like, let's not 0:10:06.040 --> 0:10:10.200 get this twisted, right, Like because they maybe meal or 0:10:11.080 --> 0:10:14.440 on together in the very beginning of a game back there, 0:10:15.240 --> 0:10:19.079 then the game starts baseball, basketball, whatever, and when football 0:10:19.080 --> 0:10:21.840 comes whatever. But to say you don't want to see that, 0:10:21.920 --> 0:10:26.720 I think that's just that's it's defensitizing, right, It's insensitive 0:10:27.320 --> 0:10:32.080 as a person, right, I just don't Again, each his own, 0:10:32.360 --> 0:10:34.600 They could be whoever they want. I would love to 0:10:34.600 --> 0:10:37.160 do evaluation on them about their lives and how they 0:10:37.559 --> 0:10:40.480 they you know, how they run their lives. Uh, it 0:10:40.520 --> 0:10:42.880 doesn't matter to me. They're not paying my mortgage or 0:10:42.920 --> 0:10:45.200 I'm not paying there, so they can they can say 0:10:45.200 --> 0:10:46.840 and do what they feel like doing. But I don't 0:10:46.840 --> 0:10:50.319 think it's a right thing for humanity, right, a right 0:10:50.360 --> 0:10:54.240 thing for humanity. So that's just my opinion. I mean, 0:10:54.320 --> 0:10:57.000 people have different opinions on it, and you know there 0:10:57.000 --> 0:10:59.920 are the views say, you know it sports people too, 0:11:00.000 --> 0:11:01.920 and they don't want all that they just want to 0:11:01.960 --> 0:11:04.400 watch the game and all that. Man. My advice Katino 0:11:04.480 --> 0:11:06.000 had been like, if you don't like that, they just 0:11:06.240 --> 0:11:08.160 tune in right when the game starts. Then you don't 0:11:08.200 --> 0:11:10.480 have to see it because most of the show's gonna happen. Yeah, 0:11:10.520 --> 0:11:14.240 it's gonna happen before the game two hours. You might 0:11:14.280 --> 0:11:16.800 get five minutes or something. So you focused on the 0:11:16.840 --> 0:11:19.280 five minutes, you could tell about their mindsets. If you're 0:11:19.280 --> 0:11:25.920 focused on five minutes opposed to two hours of basketball. Okay, yeah, 0:11:25.960 --> 0:11:28.240 I'm right, I'm right there. I mean listen as far 0:11:28.280 --> 0:11:30.400 as the what I'm gonna do, I don't know. You know, 0:11:30.400 --> 0:11:32.320 tune in right when the game starts and uh and 0:11:32.360 --> 0:11:34.480 you know you played in the NBA. The NBA isn't 0:11:34.520 --> 0:11:37.800 really doesn't. Games don't really get going until the game progresses, 0:11:37.880 --> 0:11:40.320 right the early parts kind of a feeling out process usually, 0:11:40.400 --> 0:11:42.439 and then you kinda then you kind of get going 0:11:42.480 --> 0:11:46.400 on that as well. Uh now, now what about this 0:11:46.480 --> 0:11:48.719 just the bubble concept, Coatino is we'll talk about the 0:11:48.720 --> 0:11:50.880 actual basketball part of I guess in the in the bubble, 0:11:50.920 --> 0:11:53.720 which doesn't sound that bad. I've looked at some of 0:11:53.720 --> 0:11:55.600 the videos and some of the images and it seems 0:11:55.640 --> 0:11:58.120 like it's a pretty good it's a Mickey Mouse resort 0:11:58.120 --> 0:12:01.880 there in Orlando. These guys are not exactly roughing at Gatino. No, 0:12:02.000 --> 0:12:04.480 these guys have taken ride there and you know, listen, 0:12:04.480 --> 0:12:06.280 there's no there's no waiting in the line to get 0:12:06.280 --> 0:12:08.760 on rides. I know that much. You know, guys are 0:12:08.760 --> 0:12:11.280 hanging out, having fun to comaraderie. It's kind of like 0:12:11.600 --> 0:12:14.760 a you camp, you know, five Star Nike camp, you know, 0:12:14.800 --> 0:12:16.920 all these different types of camp, but you just secluded 0:12:17.320 --> 0:12:19.840 right and the televised so you know where. We've been 0:12:19.920 --> 0:12:23.120 used to this since we were little kids, being confined 0:12:23.160 --> 0:12:26.600 within our own little group and playing blah blah blah blah. Listen. 0:12:26.600 --> 0:12:29.319 It won't last forever but for right now, and that's 0:12:29.360 --> 0:12:30.880 what it is, and we just have to deal with it. 0:12:31.440 --> 0:12:33.679 Continue jumping in here on this. I guess the one 0:12:33.760 --> 0:12:35.960 question to have with regards to the bubble is this 0:12:36.080 --> 0:12:38.280 is if you are if you're talking to some of 0:12:38.280 --> 0:12:42.600 these college prospects that either had limited time or their 0:12:42.600 --> 0:12:44.880 seasons were wiped out. Obviously the n C Double A 0:12:45.040 --> 0:12:48.080 tournaments canceled this year, what advice do you give them 0:12:48.120 --> 0:12:51.160 if they're thinking about you know, foregoing an extra year 0:12:51.240 --> 0:12:54.559 going to the G League or potentially getting drafted next year, 0:12:54.600 --> 0:12:56.520 do you tell them to sit out? Because obviously we 0:12:56.559 --> 0:12:58.920 don't have a vaccine yet, wenna have a cure yet. 0:12:58.960 --> 0:13:01.840 So like, what would you tell someone that's on the 0:13:01.880 --> 0:13:04.280 outen up that could be potentially a freshman or just 0:13:04.320 --> 0:13:06.679 a sophomore at a at A Kentucky or a San 0:13:06.720 --> 0:13:08.960 Diego State or us A. Like, what kind of advice 0:13:09.360 --> 0:13:12.040 do you give them given the fact these circumstances still 0:13:12.320 --> 0:13:15.480 we have no end in sight yet. Well, listen, there's 0:13:15.559 --> 0:13:21.240 there's nothing more serious. See again, some people may think 0:13:21.240 --> 0:13:23.960 I'm insensitive when I speak about this at the moment, 0:13:24.000 --> 0:13:27.000 but I'm a I'm a proven in fact of I 0:13:27.640 --> 0:13:31.199 came into an NBA uh and my first physical it 0:13:31.320 --> 0:13:34.520 was adoptining Anthony Specifical. He was a cardiologist, one of 0:13:34.520 --> 0:13:37.040 the best in the world. He was in Houston, and 0:13:37.080 --> 0:13:40.439 in Houston Rockets had him um as a retainer or 0:13:40.480 --> 0:13:43.720 whatever you want to call it. Um and um. You know, 0:13:43.840 --> 0:13:48.040 there was of misreading in my heart. It was you know, 0:13:48.200 --> 0:13:52.360 athletes heart, it was you know, it was you could die. 0:13:52.840 --> 0:13:56.160 This is a little strange. What's going on? I monitor you, 0:13:56.800 --> 0:13:59.840 I believe in you. How do you feel you're asymptomatic? Okay, 0:14:00.160 --> 0:14:02.360 you don't let you play. He could have said, you 0:14:02.360 --> 0:14:04.400 know what, I'm so scared you can't play, but I'm 0:14:04.480 --> 0:14:06.560 giving a decision to yourself. How do you feel do 0:14:06.640 --> 0:14:10.000 you trust yourself? I said yes. From then on them 0:14:10.080 --> 0:14:12.960 were really close. And do you know Contino movie through 0:14:13.000 --> 0:14:15.000 this day right now? Because of that. So I say 0:14:15.040 --> 0:14:18.960 that to say, you just gotta trust yourself, take your vitamins, 0:14:19.040 --> 0:14:23.240 exercise your zinc, your waters, try to be as disciplined 0:14:23.240 --> 0:14:25.840 as you can as an individual. But don't live in fear. 0:14:26.000 --> 0:14:28.360 I don't think that's a good thing, right, And don't 0:14:28.400 --> 0:14:33.400 overthink When you do something, commit to it and there's 0:14:33.400 --> 0:14:37.000 trust the process and thens live with the results. That's it. 0:14:37.800 --> 0:14:41.040 So on that note, then would you would you recommend 0:14:41.560 --> 0:14:43.760 these young prospects to stay in college an extra year 0:14:43.840 --> 0:14:46.080 or do you feel like taking that jump and even 0:14:46.080 --> 0:14:47.720 if you're not getting drafted, like going to the G 0:14:47.920 --> 0:14:50.400 League right away? Do you feel that's an adequate approach 0:14:50.800 --> 0:14:53.800 compared to staying in college ball? Now? I don't. I 0:14:53.800 --> 0:14:55.920 know they will have the opportunity to go to find 0:14:56.000 --> 0:14:58.480 but I think college is a great situation and a 0:14:58.480 --> 0:15:00.680 great experience for a lot of the young kids, right, Like, 0:15:00.760 --> 0:15:02.880 don't rush so much to be a grown up. It's 0:15:02.920 --> 0:15:05.680 not the coolest thing in the world. Right, So if 0:15:06.200 --> 0:15:08.360 you could stay in college and have fun and then 0:15:08.480 --> 0:15:11.200 grow as a human beings, then do that. But to 0:15:11.240 --> 0:15:13.480 go out there and and and try to fight for 0:15:13.640 --> 0:15:15.680 and do something as far as going to the league 0:15:15.680 --> 0:15:19.840 in NBA, it's only four and eight seven something NBA 0:15:19.920 --> 0:15:22.920 players in the world, right and then G League is 0:15:22.960 --> 0:15:27.720 a certain level. Like I don't to each his own, 0:15:27.760 --> 0:15:29.800 I don't know everybody else's pockets. I don't know how 0:15:29.840 --> 0:15:32.800 their family's structure is and whether they need money, and 0:15:33.080 --> 0:15:34.960 this little bit of money can help for right now, 0:15:35.200 --> 0:15:37.440 I have no clue, But what I say is for 0:15:37.640 --> 0:15:41.920 you know, just whatever you choose that follow through. You 0:15:41.960 --> 0:15:45.240 know what I've learned, especially my son, of my old 0:15:45.400 --> 0:15:47.800 son right now, a lot of his age back from 0:15:47.800 --> 0:15:52.200 like that twenty something years old down. If something doesn't work, 0:15:52.680 --> 0:15:54.680 they quit that team, then they're going to go to 0:15:54.680 --> 0:15:56.640 another team, and there that coach is not cool. He's 0:15:56.640 --> 0:15:58.520 not playing me in the parents of this last and 0:15:58.520 --> 0:16:00.800 then they go to another team. It's just like too much, 0:16:00.960 --> 0:16:03.880 quitting too much. Um, this is not perfect. I need 0:16:03.920 --> 0:16:06.560 to go somewhere else. That's not how I was raised. 0:16:07.200 --> 0:16:10.280 You fight through these different things right to figure out 0:16:10.880 --> 0:16:13.960 understand your character faster in a younger age. So you 0:16:14.000 --> 0:16:16.160 want to go through all these bumps and bruises the 0:16:16.280 --> 0:16:20.440 older you get. So you know that's just my Why 0:16:20.480 --> 0:16:22.520 do you think kids are giving up so much these days? 0:16:23.280 --> 0:16:26.160 But I have options? Right, everybody wants to sugarcoat and 0:16:26.240 --> 0:16:29.640 everybody deserves the trophy. Uh, mom wants to step in, 0:16:29.720 --> 0:16:32.480 the dad wants to say that, you know, my kid 0:16:32.560 --> 0:16:35.400 needs to play, and it's that whatever and all this nepotism, 0:16:35.480 --> 0:16:38.880 and you know this kid's father is this or you 0:16:38.880 --> 0:16:40.960 know I need to go do this, and you know 0:16:41.160 --> 0:16:42.760 I can play you over here. You don't want to 0:16:42.760 --> 0:16:47.200 play over there. It's not helping build character, a strong character. 0:16:47.680 --> 0:16:50.640 So you know, Michael Jordan's for a rookie years joining 0:16:50.640 --> 0:16:54.160 it is safe for your options. So if you've got 0:16:54.240 --> 0:16:56.480 a whole bunch of options, then of course you're gonna 0:16:56.600 --> 0:16:58.600 just right. If I only got one pair of brown 0:16:58.640 --> 0:17:01.800 shoes to wear for my suit, I'm not gonna sit 0:17:01.880 --> 0:17:03.760 here and be staring at my class for five and 0:17:03.840 --> 0:17:05.600 two minutes. So I figure out, we'll kind of shoot 0:17:05.640 --> 0:17:07.760 them where I'm gonna wear the brown peer. That's it. 0:17:08.000 --> 0:17:10.040 But if I got five or six different brown peer, 0:17:10.280 --> 0:17:12.440 not a figure out. Okay, that was with a tassel. 0:17:13.160 --> 0:17:16.000 That's just a slip on. This is a tie. This 0:17:16.080 --> 0:17:19.600 is cutting this too much, too much, especially a young 0:17:19.640 --> 0:17:22.959 age trying to make a decision, critical thinking, it's just 0:17:23.000 --> 0:17:25.959 too much. Yeah, I'm right there, and this time we're 0:17:25.960 --> 0:17:27.600 around the same age, Contino. I think we might be 0:17:27.680 --> 0:17:30.920 the same age. So I was raised similarly. Hey, when 0:17:30.920 --> 0:17:33.399 you have adversity had overcoming? More importantly, though, we heard 0:17:34.040 --> 0:17:36.520 was that was that a phone? Or it seemed like 0:17:36.680 --> 0:17:39.399 maybe a pet was behind you or something. We're like 0:17:39.600 --> 0:17:42.679 a clicking sound. Was there any ambient noise behind you 0:17:42.720 --> 0:17:44.680 that you noticed, Contino? Is there an animal there or 0:17:44.760 --> 0:17:50.879 some kind of odd thing in the room? No? No, no, ok, alright, 0:17:51.920 --> 0:17:56.240 my dogs, but there's there's literally laying down sleeping. Yeah, 0:17:56.240 --> 0:17:57.879 I heard, I heard the noise that it might have 0:17:57.920 --> 0:18:01.359 been something. But all right. Nonetheless, so you mentioned earlier 0:18:01.400 --> 0:18:04.600 your your heart condition and that eventually led to your 0:18:05.160 --> 0:18:08.000 NBA career ending. I believe. How how is that going 0:18:08.080 --> 0:18:10.920 for you. How how has that changed? Has it changed 0:18:10.960 --> 0:18:13.399 your life dramatically just living day to day? Is it? 0:18:13.680 --> 0:18:16.199 Are you past that now? And and how's give us 0:18:16.240 --> 0:18:19.199 the update on that. Well, it was a misdiagnosis, but 0:18:19.240 --> 0:18:22.320 it did change my I guess you know, you gotta 0:18:22.320 --> 0:18:25.000 think about it was my ninth year, uh, because I 0:18:25.040 --> 0:18:27.840 was at twelve thousand points in nine years, I was 0:18:27.880 --> 0:18:31.360 one of the top of my class as far as points, rebounds, assists, everything. 0:18:31.880 --> 0:18:34.439 So you know Paul Pierce and those a lot of 0:18:34.440 --> 0:18:36.960 those guys, you know, they got to play another ten 0:18:37.040 --> 0:18:40.639 eleven years or whatever it is. And a couple of guys, 0:18:40.720 --> 0:18:44.040 you know one you know, championships, Dusan Whisky and you 0:18:44.119 --> 0:18:46.760 know Page ship Acumage went over there, and you know 0:18:46.880 --> 0:18:50.320 Jason Kidd, and you know, I missed those opportunities. So 0:18:50.920 --> 0:18:54.040 as far as changing my my history at basketball, that 0:18:54.400 --> 0:18:57.439 changed that because I could have done more. But as 0:18:57.440 --> 0:18:59.679 far as my life, like it was a misdiagnosis so 0:18:59.800 --> 0:19:02.240 far of my life, I still work out, I still play, 0:19:02.359 --> 0:19:05.600 I still do everything normal. So be sure to catch 0:19:05.640 --> 0:19:08.080 live editions of The Ben Maller Show week days at 0:19:08.080 --> 0:19:11.560 two am Eastern Pacific. There you go, let's go. So 0:19:11.600 --> 0:19:13.199 they got it wrong, all right, And and now you 0:19:13.240 --> 0:19:15.639 were on that Clipper team. You were there kind of 0:19:15.680 --> 0:19:18.679 in a transition when the Clippers went from terrible to 0:19:18.680 --> 0:19:22.680 to a good team. That that Elton brain. No, no, no, 0:19:22.480 --> 0:19:26.639 you wasn't name transition when I got there, named Sanpatha 0:19:26.720 --> 0:19:28.959 and I put us in the playoffs. That's it. So 0:19:29.119 --> 0:19:32.560 I I changed it. Well, the transition part, I wasn't. 0:19:32.600 --> 0:19:34.680 I wasn't near what they was losing. So you were 0:19:34.720 --> 0:19:36.840 not you were not in that I thought you The 0:19:36.840 --> 0:19:39.280 first was the first year was the first year wasn't bad? 0:19:39.320 --> 0:19:40.840 They were good right away? Okay, so they were good 0:19:40.920 --> 0:19:44.120 right away. My year when I first got there, when 0:19:44.119 --> 0:19:46.760 I signed what I came from Houston to Sacramento and 0:19:46.760 --> 0:19:48.679 then I signed a free agent with the Clippers was 0:19:48.720 --> 0:19:51.040 oh five oh six. And that's when we went to 0:19:51.040 --> 0:19:53.000 the playoffs, that's true. And that was the team that 0:19:53.080 --> 0:19:55.080 beat the Nuggets in the in the play That was 0:19:55.119 --> 0:19:57.639 the first first. That was the first time the Clippers 0:19:57.680 --> 0:20:01.240 had ever won a playoff series. Uh uh, that was why. 0:20:01.320 --> 0:20:03.960 And now, now, Katino, when you look at the Clippers 0:20:04.560 --> 0:20:06.360 before you got there, they had kind of a stigment. 0:20:06.440 --> 0:20:10.000 You were responsible for them turning it around in that period, 0:20:10.160 --> 0:20:12.560 and now now they're now they're one of the favorite 0:20:12.600 --> 0:20:14.320 How weird is it to see the Clippers who were 0:20:14.320 --> 0:20:16.840 the the laughing stock for so long when you first 0:20:16.920 --> 0:20:19.280 got into the league, and now they're considered one of 0:20:19.280 --> 0:20:22.000