WEBVTT - The Hassan Piker Crisis Democrats Can't Escape

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<v Speaker 1>And as part of the Great Big Beautiful Bill, we

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<v Speaker 1>have massively expanded 529 education saving accounts tremendously, doubling the

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<v Speaker 1>annual withdrawal cap from K-12 expenses to $ 20, 000 a year

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<v Speaker 1>and allowing families to save the education and money for

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<v Speaker 1>so that's something that never happened before nobody could even

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<v Speaker 1>think about doing it they can't believe it's happened now

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<v Speaker 1>and now for the first time ever families can also

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<v Speaker 1>have their 529 accounts to support homeschool.

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<v Speaker 2>Education You're listening to the 47 Morning Update with Ben Ferguson.

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<v Speaker 3>Good Wednesday morning. It is nice to have you with

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<v Speaker 3>us on the 47 Morning Update. And we've got one

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<v Speaker 3>big story for you. Hassan Piker's latest comments are sparking

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<v Speaker 3>a political firestorm. This time saying that if you are Jewish,

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<v Speaker 3>you should be quiet and you certainly shouldn't associate yourself with...

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<v Speaker 3>with israel and if you do you're to blame for

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<v Speaker 3>anti-semitism and eventually in america well someone's going to come

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<v Speaker 3>after you now democrats are being forced to walk away

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<v Speaker 3>from hassan piker a little bit we explain exactly what

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<v Speaker 3>all he said it is the 47 morning update and

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<v Speaker 3>it starts right.

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<v Speaker 2>Now Story number one.

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<v Speaker 3>Yet again, there's another political controversy that is exploding right

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<v Speaker 3>now around Hassan Piker. Now, Hassan Piker is one of

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<v Speaker 3>the most influential left wing streamers online in America. He

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<v Speaker 3>has now made yet again another offensive comment about American Jews.

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<v Speaker 3>And now it is forcing Democrats to condemn exactly what

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<v Speaker 3>he has said. They're now having to admit that, OK,

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<v Speaker 3>maybe he actually is, well, anti-Semitic. And this story matters

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<v Speaker 3>for a reason beyond one Internet personality saying something outrageous.

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<v Speaker 3>That happens all the time. Hassan Piker has millions of followers.

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<v Speaker 3>He has become a extremely influential voice among young progressives

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<v Speaker 3>and Democratic politicians have appeared with him. courted his audience and,

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<v Speaker 3>in some cases, campaigned alongside him. Now, finally, some Democrats

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<v Speaker 3>are scrambling to put distance between themselves and Piker after

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<v Speaker 3>his latest comments during a live stream last week. And

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<v Speaker 3>that has now gone viral. Piker was discussing American Jews,

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<v Speaker 3>Israel and anti-Semitism when he warned that if Jews in

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<v Speaker 3>America continue presenting themselves as heavily invested in Israel, quote, Eventually,

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<v Speaker 3>someone's going to come around and take action, quote unquote.

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<v Speaker 3>Not against Israel, he said, but against American Jews. He

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<v Speaker 3>went on to argue that Jews who tie their identity

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<v Speaker 3>to Israel are making anti-Semitism worse. So in other words,

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<v Speaker 3>if you're Jewish, shut up about it. And if you don't,

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<v Speaker 3>someone's going to take you out. And if you like

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<v Speaker 3>Israel and you're Jewish, then you're just making anti-Semitism worse.

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<v Speaker 3>So therefore, it's your fault that you like Israel and

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<v Speaker 3>you shouldn't do that. All of the implications of this

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<v Speaker 3>argument are massively anti-Semitic, and even worse than that, they're

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<v Speaker 3>calling for violence against anyone that is Jewish in America.

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<v Speaker 3>You already have a massive problem with anti-Semitism and threats

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<v Speaker 3>against Jewish institutions. They become an enormous concern. And so

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<v Speaker 3>now Piker's like, hey, let's double down on that, right?

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<v Speaker 3>Let's actually point at the Jews and say they're the

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<v Speaker 3>ones responsible. Instead of being the victims, we're going to

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<v Speaker 3>say it's your fault that this has happened to you. Now, Piker,

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<v Speaker 3>of course, is disputing these interpretations as so many are angry.

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<v Speaker 3>He says he wasn't, quote, advocating for violence. He says

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<v Speaker 3>he was warning Jews about what he believes could happen

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<v Speaker 3>because of political identification with Israel. He has called the

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<v Speaker 3>outrage over his comments, quote unquote, a smear. Again, that's

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<v Speaker 3>coming from APNews.com. But prominent Democrats are not buying that

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<v Speaker 3>defense because they know it is absurd, ludicrous, and you

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<v Speaker 3>can't defend this. The House Minority Leader, Hakeem Jeffries, has

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<v Speaker 3>been forced to issue a statement. The malicious claims that

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<v Speaker 3>American Jews are inviting violence against themselves is dangerous and anti-Semitic.

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<v Speaker 3>Jeffries added that there is zero justification for threats against

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<v Speaker 3>Jewish Americans. Scholten of Michigan went even further, saying she

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<v Speaker 3>condemned Piker's talks of violence against American Jews, particularly because

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<v Speaker 3>his live stream displayed a photograph of the Michigan State

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<v Speaker 3>Senator Jeremy Moss, who is Jewish. She also called the

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<v Speaker 3>rhetoric unacceptable and said it had no place in Michigan

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<v Speaker 3>or even in America. And Moss himself also fired back,

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<v Speaker 3>saying he wasn't going to be lectured by Hassan Piker,

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<v Speaker 3>about what Michigan's Jewish community should believe in what Jews,

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<v Speaker 3>and that Jews would not be gaslit, quote unquote, into

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<v Speaker 3>believing they are responsible for anti-Semitic harm directed at them.

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<v Speaker 3>But now comes the political problem. Now, before we get

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<v Speaker 3>to that, we're talking literally right now about anti-Semitism, and

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<v Speaker 3>it is continuing to rise around the world every day.

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<v Speaker 3>And the Jewish people continue to pay the price, from

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<v Speaker 3>growing threats against Jewish communities to acts of violence, harassment,

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<v Speaker 3>and intimidation. Many Jewish families are living with fear simply

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<v Speaker 3>because they are Jewish. Synagogues, schools, and community centers continue

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<v Speaker 3>strengthening security as hatred spreads far beyond the headlines. And

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<v Speaker 3>that's why the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews is

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<v Speaker 3>For more than 40 years, the fellowship has stood alongside

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<v Speaker 3>the Jewish people, delivering practical support when it is needed

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<v Speaker 3>the most. Hatred, it continues to spread, but compassion and

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<v Speaker 3>action can make a world of difference. So I want

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<v Speaker 3>All right, now let's get back to this political problem

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<v Speaker 3>for Democrats. The Michigan Democratic Senate candidate nominee, you know

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<v Speaker 3>him as El Saeed. He has appeared with Piker over

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<v Speaker 3>and over and over again. They're basically best friends. He

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<v Speaker 3>uses Piker's online audience to reach young progressive voters. El

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<v Speaker 3>Saeed is now having to distance himself for the very

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<v Speaker 3>first time from a guy that said that America basically

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<v Speaker 3>deserved 9-11. Now, Al-Said said this. Nobody speaks for him

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<v Speaker 3>and emphasized his opposition to, quote, anti-Semitism. His Republican opponent,

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<v Speaker 3>by the way, former Congressman Mike Rogers, says that's nowhere

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<v Speaker 3>near enough. And he's demanding a much clearer break with

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<v Speaker 3>Hassan Piker. Even Democratic strategists are warning that Piker could

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<v Speaker 3>become a serious general election liability. The Washington Post writing

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<v Speaker 3>that this morning. And here's why this controversy isn't occurring

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<v Speaker 3>in a vacuum. As I mentioned, Hassan Piker has a

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<v Speaker 3>remarkable history of inflammatory statements. Perhaps the most infamous came

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<v Speaker 3>in 2019 when he was talking about American foreign policy

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<v Speaker 3>in September 11th and Piker said America deserved 9-11. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>he went further at the time saying America had, quote,

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<v Speaker 3>brought it on ourselves. Sounds an awful lot like what

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<v Speaker 3>he's saying now about anti-Semitism and saying, well, the Jews

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<v Speaker 3>are bringing it on themselves, right? What's interesting now is

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<v Speaker 3>even Joel Rubin, Bernie's 2020 campaign staffer, said this on

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<v Speaker 3>TV about the controversy.

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<v Speaker 4>And that's where Hassan Piker needs to go in the

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<v Speaker 4>Democratic Party. We need to shame this man, get him

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<v Speaker 4>out of our party, get him out of campaigning with candidates,

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<v Speaker 4>and make sure that the American people understand that we

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<v Speaker 4>have no tolerance for this kind of language.

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<v Speaker 5>So, Joel, does it concern you when you see some

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<v Speaker 5>of your leadership within the party or party elders say,

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<v Speaker 5>This is all a big tent. You know, I look

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<v Speaker 5>at there's some on the right. There's some on the

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<v Speaker 5>right that want to be a part of the right.

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<v Speaker 5>But I don't want to be a part of their tent.

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<v Speaker 5>I won't vote for them. I won't campaign with them.

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<v Speaker 5>I won't appear on stage with them.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Lawrence, I don't want to be in the tent

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<v Speaker 4>with the guys trying to kill me. You know, I

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<v Speaker 4>am just not interested in that. And there are many

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<v Speaker 4>very strongly pro-peace, pro-Palestinian people who belong in that tent.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, this is not going to end the controversy, even

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<v Speaker 3>if they get rid of him, because there's still too

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<v Speaker 3>many Democrats that have stood right beside Piker and have

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<v Speaker 3>made it clear they like him. He has also said,

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<v Speaker 3>referring to Piker, that he would choose Hamas, a terrorist organization,

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<v Speaker 3>over Israel every single time. He's also described Hamas as a, quote,

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<v Speaker 3>thousand times better than Israel. Now, remember what Hamas did

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<v Speaker 3>on October the 7th. Americans were murdered. Israelis were murdered.

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<v Speaker 3>They were slaughtered. Civilians were not only kidnapped, they were

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<v Speaker 3>taken hostage and they were brutally beaten, killed and raped.

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<v Speaker 3>And yet you have a top Democratic influencer who has

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<v Speaker 3>publicly compared Hamas favorably with Israel, who Democrats are still

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<v Speaker 3>willing to defend and stand next to. It is a

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<v Speaker 3>massive problem. He also not only generate outrage over his

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<v Speaker 3>treatment of the atrocities of October the 7th, But CNN

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<v Speaker 3>even aired a clip. in which Piker argued that whether

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<v Speaker 3>rapes occurred on October 7th did not change his broader

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<v Speaker 3>political analysis, adding that the Palestinian resistance is not perfect.

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<v Speaker 3>Mike Rogers, who's running for that Senate campaign as a Republican,

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<v Speaker 3>had this to say last night at an event.

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<v Speaker 5>Al-Said wants to represent Palestine.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to represent Michigan.

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<v Speaker 3>Al-Said wants to represent Palestine. I want to represent Michigan.

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<v Speaker 3>That is the difference in this race. And if you

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<v Speaker 3>put all of this together, America deserves 9-11. That coming

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<v Speaker 3>from the Democrats. Hamas is a thousand times better than Israel.

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<v Speaker 3>That again, coming from the Democrats. Derogatory rhetoric about Orthodox Jews. Again,

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<v Speaker 3>coming from the Democrats. And now telling American Jews that

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<v Speaker 3>identifying themselves too closely with Israel is making anti-Semitism worse.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the definition of victim shaming. and warning that eventually

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<v Speaker 3>someone could take action, meaning kill you, against American Jews.

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<v Speaker 3>That is the Democratic Party. The record explains why this

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<v Speaker 3>latest controversy, well, isn't that big of a deal compared

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<v Speaker 3>to the other ones. This is par for the course,

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<v Speaker 3>but it now is a Democratic Party problem because Piker

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<v Speaker 3>isn't some anonymous person with 200 followers yelling into the Internet.

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<v Speaker 3>He's been treated as a legitimate political influencer. Some would

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<v Speaker 3>even argue a kingmaker of the Democratic Party. Politicians understand

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<v Speaker 3>exactly what he offers them. Millions of young viewers who

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<v Speaker 3>are often difficult to reach through traditional television, radio or

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<v Speaker 3>newspaper ads. And what creates a very uncomfortable question for

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<v Speaker 3>Democratic politicians who have embraced his platform. Where exactly is

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<v Speaker 3>the line? If a conservative media personality said American Jews

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<v Speaker 3>were making anti-Semitism worse and warned that somebody might eventually

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<v Speaker 3>take action against them, Democrats would almost certainly demand that

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<v Speaker 3>Republican candidate disassociate themselves from the party. So why is

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<v Speaker 3>it that Democratic politicians are looking the other way? It's

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<v Speaker 3>because they benefited from this type of radical rhetoric. They

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<v Speaker 3>have benefited from Piker's audience, and they are willing to

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<v Speaker 3>overlook this if it means they keep their power. To

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<v Speaker 3>be clear, Jeffries didn't simply say he disagreed with Piker.

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<v Speaker 3>He called the underlying idea dangerous and anti-Semitic. He had

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<v Speaker 3>no choice if he wanted to keep his donors, and

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<v Speaker 3>many of them are Jewish. But this controversy, it is

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<v Speaker 3>going to move forward into the midterm elections. As Joel

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<v Speaker 3>Rubin said, Al-Said's buddy, Hassan Piker, we need to shame

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<v Speaker 3>this man, get him out of our party, get him

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<v Speaker 3>out of campaigning with candidates. I don't think that's going

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<v Speaker 3>to happen. I think there's far too many radicals on

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<v Speaker 3>the left that love Piker and want him to stay

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<v Speaker 3>exactly where he is.

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