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Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast

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Speaker 1: with our radio. That's right, we're back once again to

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Speaker 1: the almost in his podcast, UM, Ashley and I have

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Speaker 1: spoken all week about a plethora of topics, uh, mostly

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Speaker 1: relating around other people's dating lives. Um, we've talked about

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Speaker 1: listen to your heart. And Ashley and I are here

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Speaker 1: again another week of self isolation, both remote, so please

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Speaker 1: give us little grace there uh in our own homes, UM,

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Speaker 1: to talk about everything going on a bachelor nation and

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Speaker 1: also just to share with you, uh some common feelings

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Speaker 1: and emotions that everybody's experiencing during isolation. What's up? Ash? Hey,

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Speaker 1: not much uh sitting here talking to you. Ben. Do

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Speaker 1: you know that I've always been the most awkward responding

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Speaker 1: to the question what's up? Is anybody really good at

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Speaker 1: responding to that? Because every time I'm like, you know,

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Speaker 1: just here talking to you? Yeah, okay, so here let

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Speaker 1: me try this then? Because I was encouraged this week, UM,

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Speaker 1: because I have felt a little disconnected from people. That's

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Speaker 1: my own personal thing, and somebody encouraged me to stop

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Speaker 1: asking the question, Hey, how are you doing or what's up?

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Speaker 1: And I was like, what's alternative? Like, and they said,

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Speaker 1: start asking a question that enters into their life. And so,

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Speaker 1: for example, if you walk up to a clerk at

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Speaker 1: the grocery store, instead of saying hey, how you doing,

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Speaker 1: say hey, tell me why you walk through these doors

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Speaker 1: and applied for this job? And like that's intimidating, is it?

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Speaker 1: So I'm gonna ask you this. Actually, We're gonna start

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Speaker 1: at the beginning again, I'm gonna say this, Actually, why

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Speaker 1: did you say yes to being a co host of mine?

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Speaker 1: And also, I guess we we decided the same time,

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Speaker 1: So why did you say yes to doing the almost

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Speaker 1: famous podcast three years ago? Well? UM executive producer Amy

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Speaker 1: Sugarman was a friend of mine for like at least

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Speaker 1: a year and a half leading up to her asking

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Speaker 1: me that question. And what was really crazy is that

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Speaker 1: she started really mulling the idea over when she invited

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Speaker 1: me to lunch with David Spade at the Beverly Hills Hotel.

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Speaker 1: It was three of us, and I was like, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think this lady would be great to work with.

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Speaker 1: And Ben is just like the master smooth man of

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Speaker 1: the franchise. He's like probably the most respected character there is,

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Speaker 1: So of course I'd love to do anything with him.

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Speaker 1: It's wild, ash I mean, how along I think we're

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Speaker 1: going on our what third year and third yeah? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so we've completed three years as of May. We got

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Speaker 1: to get account producer tor is on the line right now, Tory,

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Speaker 1: as we're on the podcast, can you get a rough

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Speaker 1: estimate of how many listens we've had in the three years,

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Speaker 1: like in total? If you can buy them all? Um,

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Speaker 1: I would just love to celebrate this with the almost

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Speaker 1: famous family. It feels like a good time to be celebrating.

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Speaker 1: Didn't we have six or seven million when we celebrated

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Speaker 1: maybe three or four million more onto that. That's pretty insane.

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Speaker 1: Maybe yeah, that'd be insane. But I bet Torria, we'll

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Speaker 1: come back to us with af you like numbers. I

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Speaker 1: want to see if we're shocked or not, because obviously

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Speaker 1: due to isolation, like our numbers are up. Um you

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Speaker 1: know what what's not up? Though, Ashley, and I think

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Speaker 1: you and I both need it right now, especially me.

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Speaker 1: Um well, I would I want to hear reviews and

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Speaker 1: see reviews on iTunes. So if you can and you're

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Speaker 1: listening and you enjoy the podcast. Uh you know what,

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Speaker 1: We're all in a weird place right now, I think,

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Speaker 1: and we're all I mean maybe maybe I'm just speaking

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Speaker 1: I think Ashley and I would really enjoy and appreciate

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Speaker 1: if you love the podcast or if you hate it,

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Speaker 1: I guess, go on and review and comment on on

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Speaker 1: the podcast on iTunes wherever you listen to it. It It

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Speaker 1: would mean a lot to me at least, and Ashually,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if it mean a lot to you.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I love I love to find out what

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Speaker 1: the fans are thinking. And I'm thinking, what if we

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Speaker 1: great idea. Let's do it. So if that's let's just say,

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Speaker 1: if that's a good idea, how about you comment on

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Speaker 1: the podcast on iTunes rate us. We would appreciate. But

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Speaker 1: some big news and batination. Ashley and I participated in

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Speaker 1: a Cameo trivia night. Ashley, Jared and I took on

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Speaker 1: I just smacked them, I mean just destroyed them. If

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Speaker 1: was a lot of fun. Ashley. Let's take a break here.

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Speaker 1: We have a big show coming up. We have Jamie

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Speaker 1: from Listen to Your Heart Uh, we also have kindall

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Speaker 1: I think, uh, listeners are gonna be really excited here

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Speaker 1: if she's dating again. Yeah. You know, the last time

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Speaker 1: more than I am with Lauren. Wow, I've never thought

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Speaker 1: when we do an in depth Ben Higgins podcast. Oh,

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Speaker 1: my life to talk through stuff. Yeah. I think that's

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Speaker 1: Bachelor Nation. So we're back with Bachelor trending topics. Ashley,

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Speaker 1: I'm just gonna say the headline, Uh, you can do

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Speaker 1: Fans found evidence Chris Souls and Victoria Fuller are staying

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Speaker 1: together based on couch pillows. You're gonna say, couch potato.

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Speaker 1: What a headline? Yeah, so this is really interesting. She

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Speaker 1: in which he said, Oh feels so good to be home,

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Speaker 1: and then um, so that was like sleuthor's first clue.

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Speaker 1: you watch that? I haven't? I am a little No, no no, no,

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Speaker 1: that we're reading his Bachelor Paradise. Jenna Cooper feels vindicated

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Speaker 1: So basically all of Bachelination felt that Jenna was this cheater,

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Speaker 1: what does this mean for Jordan Kimbledon, Well, Jordan's Jenna

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Speaker 1: I am the worst at judging musical talent. I watched

425
00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:15,679
Speaker 1: these voices and American Idols and I and I watched

426
00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:17,560
Speaker 1: him and I listen to your Heart, and I go, oh,

427
00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:19,600
Speaker 1: that person is a great singer, and then they always

428
00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:21,520
Speaker 1: get kicked off the show, or hey, that person is

429
00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:24,560
Speaker 1: a bad singer and he they here she wins the

430
00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:27,399
Speaker 1: like contest. I don't know who's good and who's bad

431
00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:31,440
Speaker 1: anymore because I'm so bad, Ashley. How does he get

432
00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:35,440
Speaker 1: such praise from American Idol if he's not a I guess,

433
00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:38,000
Speaker 1: a good singer. I guess I don't remember. I mean,

434
00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:40,119
Speaker 1: should we see how far we got on American Idol?

435
00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:42,879
Speaker 1: I think we should. Yeah, let's look it up, okay,

436
00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:51,600
Speaker 1: Trevor American Idols, Yeah, listen to your heart. Um, he

437
00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:55,080
Speaker 1: made it to the top t American Idol, which it

438
00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:58,520
Speaker 1: seems about right because with American IDOK, they're going to

439
00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:02,840
Speaker 1: take into certain things and can duration his personality charm um,

440
00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:05,320
Speaker 1: and then his appearance, like that sex appeal that he's

441
00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:08,560
Speaker 1: got going on, that's definitely top twenty four worthy. But

442
00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:13,600
Speaker 1: then you know, once the live shows start and it's

443
00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:19,520
Speaker 1: up to the American vote, oftentimes guys like that, you're like, oh,

444
00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:22,040
Speaker 1: they're a dime a dozen flash in the pan type thing,

445
00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:24,760
Speaker 1: so that's when you start weeding them out. So I

446
00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:28,280
Speaker 1: think that makes sense him being here and listen to

447
00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:33,679
Speaker 1: your heart and providing more of like the sex symbol character. Well,

448
00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:36,000
Speaker 1: that's not all we know about Trevor, though. There's like

449
00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:39,560
Speaker 1: these Bachelor esque storylines going on behind the scenes of

450
00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:43,040
Speaker 1: each one of these dates. There's a lot of what

451
00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:47,440
Speaker 1: behamersnes like Bachelor esque storylines, Like all of a sudden,

452
00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:50,200
Speaker 1: we have a Trevor and Jamie on a date. They're singing,

453
00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:53,760
Speaker 1: and now we find out that Trevor, oh totally you know,

454
00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:57,119
Speaker 1: has an X back home that he supposedly did not

455
00:25:57,240 --> 00:26:00,280
Speaker 1: treat well. And now we have this story and for

456
00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:02,240
Speaker 1: the first time during the season, we're starting to see

457
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:05,480
Speaker 1: that drama will actually happen on this show. Right. I

458
00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:07,800
Speaker 1: don't think it'll ever get as dramatic as The Bachelor.

459
00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:09,560
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be like Bachelor when her games,

460
00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:13,680
Speaker 1: where it was more relationship focused. But I do think

461
00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:16,520
Speaker 1: that with the Tasha coming in, a thirty three year

462
00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:18,320
Speaker 1: old from the East Coast, we're gonna have later on

463
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:21,399
Speaker 1: the show who's looking for something serious, a husband or

464
00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:24,440
Speaker 1: a baby daddy. We do see um kind of like

465
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:28,480
Speaker 1: a drama bomb dropped right. That girl shows up and

466
00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:31,400
Speaker 1: she's not somebody who could be overlooked. She is very

467
00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:35,720
Speaker 1: commanding and just her appearance sort of says dramas here.

468
00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:38,360
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying I'm not being judge you when

469
00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:41,960
Speaker 1: I say that that's just how she carries herself. Yeah,

470
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:43,440
Speaker 1: I mean I think why when she walked in, I

471
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:46,280
Speaker 1: think the whole house went, oh, like, this is either

472
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:49,760
Speaker 1: our our best friend or like, are like I think

473
00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:52,240
Speaker 1: the guys like, I think we gotta ask her. We'll

474
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:55,199
Speaker 1: have her on here later in the podcast, But like,

475
00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:57,399
Speaker 1: what was the take from the guys when she walked

476
00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:00,640
Speaker 1: in or the people like, were they taken back the guy?

477
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:03,480
Speaker 1: They were Yeah, I feel like the guys were like whoa, um,

478
00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:08,760
Speaker 1: powerhouse um and then somebody super womanly right, and then

479
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:11,840
Speaker 1: the girls I think felt a little intimidated. She did

480
00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:15,920
Speaker 1: become friendly with the girls though quickly when she started

481
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:19,960
Speaker 1: to say that you know Trevor has she's friends with

482
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:22,600
Speaker 1: Trevor's eggs, he didn't treat her right, and that she

483
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:24,840
Speaker 1: was standing up for Jamie. She definitely seemed like a

484
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:29,320
Speaker 1: girl who's looking out for the other girls. So I

485
00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:31,399
Speaker 1: don't even think she was like she wasn't trying to

486
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:34,560
Speaker 1: get with anyones man, She's just kind of like a

487
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:39,480
Speaker 1: good girls girl. I've been interested how quickly the contestants

488
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:44,600
Speaker 1: on this show have kind of been interested in bringing

489
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:47,840
Speaker 1: up the drama, like they're actually for being the first

490
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:50,160
Speaker 1: week of a show whatever. It is, Like they're all

491
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:54,159
Speaker 1: pretty engaged in each other's storylines and engaged in like

492
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:59,360
Speaker 1: discussing some really hard topics like somebody cheating, who's loving who,

493
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:01,719
Speaker 1: who's in who, and I'm into that person too, Like

494
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:07,560
Speaker 1: drama has happened very quickly. They're very open with each other.

495
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:10,720
Speaker 1: And I'm thinking that maybe that's because there's a group

496
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:14,840
Speaker 1: of guys and girls together, um where we're used to

497
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:18,280
Speaker 1: that in Paradise, after we've already been kind of jaded

498
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:22,080
Speaker 1: to the process, the experience, and so we kind of

499
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:24,200
Speaker 1: know to look out for drama. But these people are

500
00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:26,920
Speaker 1: very trusting of one another, like they're like, hey, I'm

501
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:29,680
Speaker 1: into him. It's like, oh, I'm into him too, Whereas

502
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 1: in Paradise, I remember being asked, who are you into,

503
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:35,320
Speaker 1: and I was like, I'm not telling anyone because then

504
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:36,879
Speaker 1: people are going to go after him. And then like,

505
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:40,920
Speaker 1: I have to worry about other girls, right, Alright? So

506
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:44,280
Speaker 1: anyway back to Jamie and Trevor's day there on the

507
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:47,480
Speaker 1: Venice boardwalk, and then they go into jacuzzi, Or opens

508
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:49,680
Speaker 1: up about his ex girlfriend and why it didn't work out.

509
00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:53,800
Speaker 1: He never mentions that he emotionally cheated on her after

510
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:56,680
Speaker 1: two and a half years, which is what's being talked

511
00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 1: about back at the house with Natasha, and we'll get

512
00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:03,160
Speaker 1: more that storyline later. So I actually want to pause

513
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:06,000
Speaker 1: you there. Should he have brought it up? So I

514
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,840
Speaker 1: don't think it's right what he did. But I'm wondering,

515
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 1: if you're on a first date with somebody, is it

516
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:16,080
Speaker 1: expected within that first day that you tell them, Hey,

517
00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:19,200
Speaker 1: in the past, I've made a mistake. Yeah, probably not.

518
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:22,640
Speaker 1: It's a great question because I feel like on reality

519
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:26,680
Speaker 1: TV you're totally villainized if you're not super honest upfront.

520
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 1: But you're right, that's not normal date conversation, and it

521
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 1: doesn't necessarily mean that he wouldn't have come out with

522
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:36,240
Speaker 1: it eventually. Yeah, I mean, I think the problem lies

523
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:37,720
Speaker 1: and we'll see it later on. We'll talk about it.

524
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 1: But when Natasha confronts him, he starts to you know,

525
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:43,920
Speaker 1: stutter and I have the clear words and he doesn't

526
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:47,080
Speaker 1: own up to it. But yeah, on a first date, like,

527
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:51,000
Speaker 1: I'm not sharing that much about my like dating life.

528
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to get to know the person. Yeah, great,

529
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:58,480
Speaker 1: great points. So the next day we see is between

530
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:02,560
Speaker 1: Brie and Chris, and now I really feel like Brie

531
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:06,080
Speaker 1: and Chris have a strong relationship. They're really falling in

532
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:09,080
Speaker 1: love with each other, and I'm buying it. However, felt

533
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:12,040
Speaker 1: the state was a little bit awkward. Um. They went

534
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:14,400
Speaker 1: to the Guitar Center on Sunset, which is a pretty

535
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:18,400
Speaker 1: big deal for musicians, and she talks about her past relationship,

536
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:20,760
Speaker 1: how it was. It was an engagement that ended a

537
00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:25,080
Speaker 1: year ago and it was so sad to hear how

538
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:27,920
Speaker 1: this guy broke up with her. She calls him and says,

539
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:31,320
Speaker 1: I found my wedding dress while shopping for a wedding

540
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:33,280
Speaker 1: dress with her mom, Like, I found the one, and

541
00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:40,200
Speaker 1: he says, don't buy the dress. It was heart wrenching. Yeah,

542
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:43,160
Speaker 1: it just hurts, like I am in a position right

543
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:46,240
Speaker 1: now that can relate that would hurt right ash, Like

544
00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:49,880
Speaker 1: that would be the worst possible timing. Oh the worst.

545
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:54,000
Speaker 1: So she confides in Chris, confides in Chris about all that,

546
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 1: and then she talks about how she feels like she

547
00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 1: has difficulty expressing her emotions when she's not doing it

548
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:05,720
Speaker 1: in song. Some they kind of like sing to each

549
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:09,680
Speaker 1: other sing speak about how they're feeling about each other.

550
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:11,640
Speaker 1: And I think that was a little cringe e. I

551
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 1: know producer Tori has some thoughts about this. Tori, you

552
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 1: want to jump in and tell us for Chris and breathe, man,

553
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 1: can we just talk about their rifts that they created

554
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:28,920
Speaker 1: their own song where it was like saying, yeah, yeah,

555
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:32,080
Speaker 1: then you give me the rose and he was like

556
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:35,560
Speaker 1: I said yes, yes, yes, yes, yes yes, and it

557
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 1: was all over the place. It was so awkward. And

558
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:43,720
Speaker 1: then like two or two seconds after, she goes, I'm

559
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:47,800
Speaker 1: falling in love with you. Okay, So I bought that

560
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 1: they were falling in love with each other. I think

561
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:51,480
Speaker 1: that's totally fine. I just felt like the sing songy

562
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:54,480
Speaker 1: back and forth trying to express what they've been through

563
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:59,719
Speaker 1: together so far in song lyrics like rifting was just acky.

564
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:01,960
Speaker 1: I think it was all a little bit too much

565
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:03,720
Speaker 1: for me on my end because I was like, oh,

566
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:07,240
Speaker 1: if we're trying to figure out if musical connection is important.

567
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:10,400
Speaker 1: I don't feel that connection from them. But then now

568
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 1: they're saying they're falling in love with each other. So

569
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:17,719
Speaker 1: here's a scenario for later on the season. What if

570
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:21,040
Speaker 1: they have amazing chemistry romantically, but they don't have any

571
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 1: musical chemistry. How does that? How does that work? I

572
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:29,440
Speaker 1: completely pressing, I completely agree. I don't understand how it's

573
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:34,440
Speaker 1: supposed to work, because, yeah, like I don't know if

574
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:36,840
Speaker 1: it's supposed to be okay with them not singing well

575
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 1: together and just that's cute and daring, or if that's

576
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 1: because all these people are saying I've never had anybody

577
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 1: write a song about me, and I've never had um

578
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:46,680
Speaker 1: somebody sing a song with me and feel that connection.

579
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:48,520
Speaker 1: So I'm like, am I supposed to feel a connection

580
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:50,960
Speaker 1: every time you guys sing? Or is it okay that

581
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:52,640
Speaker 1: I don't you guys are in love with each other.

582
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 1: I don't know. I just don't know where my heart

583
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 1: is right now on that, Yeah, be honest. Yeah, And

584
00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 1: I told Ryan this last week. Any time, I mean,

585
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:05,160
Speaker 1: there's been one moment, one moment other than okay, let's

586
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:07,880
Speaker 1: actually take that moment out, I really felt something when

587
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 1: Lady Gaga and uh Um Bradley Cooper performed together, like,

588
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 1: I felt something deep in my heart there, as did

589
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 1: we everybody. But there's very few, let me preface it

590
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 1: with this, very few moments in my life where two

591
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 1: people have sat down across from each other and they've

592
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 1: sing a song to each other and I felt anything

593
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 1: in that moment other than like, oh, this feels like

594
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:33,480
Speaker 1: I shouldn't be watching. This feels super awkward. And I

595
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:36,160
Speaker 1: don't know. Maybe it's because I don't have any musical talent,

596
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:40,760
Speaker 1: but I could never do that myself. Yeah, I have

597
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 1: to say, like there's a vulnerability to singing to each

598
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 1: other that may go beyond anything that Ben and I

599
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 1: could comprehend. I don't get it. All right, Let's move

600
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 1: on to date number three. Sheridan, who I think is

601
00:33:54,440 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 1: just the sweetest, chooses to go public with Julia Um.

602
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 1: They go to the I Heart radio station, they go

603
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 1: to our station there on Valentine in the morning, and

604
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 1: they perform Bones by Mary Morris. Now. I liked this

605
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 1: performance because I think it just showed off Julia's talent, like, Wow,

606
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:19,320
Speaker 1: she has an amazing voice. Share it in. I don't

607
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:22,880
Speaker 1: think it expressed how good he could be because it

608
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 1: seemed like he didn't know the lyrics to the song

609
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:26,960
Speaker 1: and he kept looking down at a piece of paper

610
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 1: so he couldn't quite belt it. Yeah, I mean he's

611
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:33,120
Speaker 1: he's a nice dude. He cares about her a lot, right, Um.

612
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:38,040
Speaker 1: I again, I mean, first off, really cool to see

613
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:41,440
Speaker 1: I heart represented there. There you go hear that was

614
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:46,719
Speaker 1: the little studio that we had myrt Earl Bachelor. Yeah,

615
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 1: I wondered, Yeah, because because I remember, Because he said,

616
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:51,279
Speaker 1: like so many iconic artists have been on the stage.

617
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:53,600
Speaker 1: I was like, well, of course, actually, like Eddie's been there. Um,

618
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:57,880
Speaker 1: but the he seems like a nice dude. I mean again,

619
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:02,279
Speaker 1: actually I'm enjoying some of the show, like I'm joining

620
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:05,600
Speaker 1: these storylines. I don't connect in these musical parts, Like

621
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:08,400
Speaker 1: I think it's a lot to do with me and

622
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 1: me not having any musical talent. But it doesn't like

623
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 1: pull at my heart as much as like a conversation

624
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 1: about life does. And I could be crazy there, but

625
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:22,799
Speaker 1: I'm not connecting. Like even when they're saying I'm like

626
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:25,160
Speaker 1: that's good, like she's really good and he doesn't know

627
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 1: the words great, Like I want to hear him talk interesting.

628
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:32,400
Speaker 1: I enjoy the musical numbers. That's fair. I mean, maybe

629
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 1: this is just me. I I just don't make I

630
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 1: think a lot of it is to do I have.

631
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 1: I cannot relate at all with any musical talent. Okay,

632
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:44,320
Speaker 1: all right, let's get well. Well, I understand, I understand.

633
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:49,160
Speaker 1: Back at home, Matt and Rudy. Very funny dynamic between

634
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 1: these two. Last week she chewed him out. This week

635
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:56,400
Speaker 1: she comes to him, apologizes for freaking out, that she

636
00:35:56,480 --> 00:36:00,320
Speaker 1: feels bad about how she handled the last rows Ammoni

637
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 1: cocktail party, and then they end up making out again.

638
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:07,680
Speaker 1: And she is so freaking funny. She's so unfiltered, she

639
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:13,359
Speaker 1: does not care what people think about her, and she's

640
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:15,719
Speaker 1: all over the place emotionally. But I kind of love

641
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:19,400
Speaker 1: the two of them together. And then the fourth date, damn,

642
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:21,359
Speaker 1: there are four dates out of the house this week

643
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 1: is Savannah. She picks Brandon, who is a hot commodity

644
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:28,360
Speaker 1: in the house. Mel is really into him, as well

645
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:31,680
Speaker 1: as Julia. The two of them, Savannah and Brandon go

646
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:35,799
Speaker 1: to a jazz bar. I felt this date was forgettable

647
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:39,239
Speaker 1: and I don't really feel anything between them, although than

648
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:42,759
Speaker 1: maybe a physical attraction um. Then Sheridan and Julia are

649
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:46,880
Speaker 1: back at the house. Julia is very honest to Sheridan

650
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 1: that she's um kind of torn between him and Brandon.

651
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 1: And then you know, Brandon gets kissed by everyone at

652
00:36:56,680 --> 00:37:01,399
Speaker 1: the pre Cocked you know, pre rosermon a new cocktail party,

653
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:06,240
Speaker 1: and he ends up giving his rose to Savannah, and

654
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:09,439
Speaker 1: Julia is upset, but she of course gets her rose

655
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 1: by Sheridan, and she thinks that, you know, Brandon and

656
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:18,480
Speaker 1: her just completely put But Brandon whispers for her something,

657
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:24,160
Speaker 1: saying that that they can now have time to explore

658
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:27,920
Speaker 1: what's going on between them further, which which leaves her

659
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:30,440
Speaker 1: very confused. Actually, we actually have a clip of this.

660
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 1: You want to play it? Yeah, roll it when Brandon

661
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 1: will chose Savannah, I thought, okay, got it, duly noted,

662
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:42,160
Speaker 1: and then Brandon hugged me and said, like, you're still

663
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 1: here and we can still figure this out. You just

664
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 1: chose Savannah literally two minutes ago, and you still want

665
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:55,399
Speaker 1: to figure things out with me. So to the best

666
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:57,440
Speaker 1: days of our lives and the worst nights of our lives.

667
00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 1: They're all part of life, and we're still alive. Is insummation.

668
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 1: The rose ceremony. Roses go as follows. Chris obviously gives

669
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:12,960
Speaker 1: it to Brae after their awkward but loving date. Trevor

670
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 1: chooses Jamie and their drama seems to be subsided for

671
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:21,279
Speaker 1: the moment. Matt chooses Rudy and all of that craziness.

672
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:27,960
Speaker 1: Ryan chooses Natasha, which was probably the most one of

673
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 1: the more shocking roses. Danny chooses Becca. We know nothing

674
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:37,719
Speaker 1: about them still, Brandon chooses Savannah, Gabe chooses Ruby. We

675
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:42,360
Speaker 1: also don't know much about those two. And then Sheridan

676
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 1: chooses Julia, who um he's hopelessly in love with, but

677
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 1: she is not necessarily reciprocating the feelings that is UH.

678
00:38:55,800 --> 00:39:00,279
Speaker 1: The second week episode of the Uh Bachelor. List into

679
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:02,719
Speaker 1: your Heart, Ashley. We did it last week, We'll do

680
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 1: it this week. You're rating now on the whole entirety

681
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:09,319
Speaker 1: of the show A to F. What are you giving it? Um?

682
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:11,719
Speaker 1: I mean I'll give it a B. This week's a B.

683
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 1: Last week was a B plus. I'm dropping to a

684
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 1: B minus now. I'm intrigued. Still, I will be tuning in.

685
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:20,600
Speaker 1: I will be excited to talk about it and share it.

686
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:24,440
Speaker 1: But I'm hoping next week Art we're just gripped like

687
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 1: we're ready for the next couple episodes. Well, those are

688
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 1: live performances, so you may be able to relate even less.

689
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:37,120
Speaker 1: Corp Uh dang it. Well, hey, Ashley, we do have

690
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 1: Natasha from this week's episode of Listening to Your Heart

691
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:42,960
Speaker 1: coming on the Almost finst podcast. Here in just a second,

692
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 1: before she does, let's take a break. We're back with

693
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:58,360
Speaker 1: Natasha from Listen to Your Heart. Natasha, Welcome to the

694
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:02,080
Speaker 1: Almost Famous podcast. Hi, Hi, I'm so excited to be

695
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 1: here you guys, I'm a big fan of this podcast.

696
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:07,400
Speaker 1: That's so sweet. Thank you. Natasha. So you are a

697
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 1: pop singer from New York City and you come into

698
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:14,879
Speaker 1: the episode today is a big splash. We saw a

699
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:17,360
Speaker 1: teaser of your entrance last week, so we knew that

700
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:19,760
Speaker 1: you were going to come in and call out Trevor

701
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:22,680
Speaker 1: for being a cheater. Can you tell us a little

702
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:28,520
Speaker 1: bit more about your friendship with his ex Sierra? And um,

703
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:32,560
Speaker 1: what exactly she always alluded to him doing wrong in

704
00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:36,400
Speaker 1: the relationship. I mean, it wasn't like she was alluding

705
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 1: really to anything. You know, as girlfriends, we you know,

706
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:41,320
Speaker 1: you chat about things, and you know I was seeing

707
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:44,360
Speaker 1: her on Instagram, like crying all the time. We're saying this,

708
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:46,400
Speaker 1: I'm like, girl, what happened? What's going on. She's like,

709
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:48,640
Speaker 1: he's been cheating on me, He's been lying to me.

710
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:50,520
Speaker 1: I've been deceived this whole time. I mean they were

711
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:52,120
Speaker 1: dating two and a half years, so it wasn't like

712
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:54,279
Speaker 1: a flame that didn't work out. This was a full

713
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:56,759
Speaker 1: on relationship. They were living together, she was supporting him,

714
00:40:56,840 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 1: we were living together emotionally, financially, she was supporting him,

715
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:02,920
Speaker 1: like she really helped his career, she helped push him

716
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:05,680
Speaker 1: for American Idol. Like this was a real thing. This

717
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:08,400
Speaker 1: wasn't just like, Okay, we're dating and he's being silly,

718
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 1: you know. And she's a woman who's she's a smart girl,

719
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:15,120
Speaker 1: she has a business. You know, she's she's not just

720
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:17,840
Speaker 1: some like silly girl who couldn't tell the difference. You know.

721
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 1: He's just so good at what he does. He's just

722
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:22,560
Speaker 1: and I could see it, you know, even on the

723
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:25,480
Speaker 1: show on the first episode, I was like, he's just

724
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:28,400
Speaker 1: so good. You know, he's like a master manipulator, and

725
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:30,839
Speaker 1: he gets them right where he wants them, and it's

726
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:35,799
Speaker 1: just tough to see man observing his behavior. I am like, oh, man,

727
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:40,799
Speaker 1: a lot we are seeing a lot of jet in him. Um,

728
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:44,480
Speaker 1: he definitely comes across maybe too smooth. You know, he's

729
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:47,479
Speaker 1: a musician with a guitar, who's got a great face.

730
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:49,680
Speaker 1: He could probably pick up a ton of girls. I mean,

731
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:53,400
Speaker 1: Katie Perry even talked about him being hot, and I

732
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:57,920
Speaker 1: it seems as if he's he just comes across that way.

733
00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:00,279
Speaker 1: You know a lot of guys are really great guy

734
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:02,839
Speaker 1: and they still come across too smooth, and you kind

735
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:04,719
Speaker 1: of need to like you're like, oh, where's your flaw?

736
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:08,000
Speaker 1: Where's your flaw? Right? It's like Tyler Cameron's a great example.

737
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:09,719
Speaker 1: So many people are like, Okay, what are you going

738
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:12,359
Speaker 1: to see Tyler's flaw? I mean, we haven't really seen it.

739
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 1: Um never will. So do you think that Trevor Trevor,

740
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:21,719
Speaker 1: you know, in this episode, goes up to Jamie and

741
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 1: he's like, look, I did emotionally cheat and it's because

742
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:27,719
Speaker 1: of you that he ended up having to tell her

743
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 1: that so early on? Don't you think that men have

744
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:35,320
Speaker 1: to be like co coherence into actually telling the truth

745
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:36,960
Speaker 1: to the girl they're dating. Like, for me, that just

746
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:40,200
Speaker 1: sounds so crazy. If you're starting a relationship, aren't there

747
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:42,360
Speaker 1: like certain I mean, there's a basis of how you

748
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:47,799
Speaker 1: wanted to start right. Integrity, respect, communication, honesty, These are

749
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 1: all things that you look for, especially on a dating show,

750
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:53,279
Speaker 1: like we're here to find our one, We're here to

751
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:55,919
Speaker 1: find the one, Like why are we starting off things

752
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:58,759
Speaker 1: being like shady like that? For me? Just doesn't you know?

753
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:00,920
Speaker 1: And this is not like like had I not shown

754
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:02,920
Speaker 1: up on the show at all, this would have still

755
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 1: come out. It's not like I'm the only one who

756
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 1: knows the secret. It's all over the internet. It's all

757
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:08,600
Speaker 1: over everything. And this is not just a singular girl.

758
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 1: It's not just my girlfriend who I care for deeply.

759
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:13,399
Speaker 1: It's more it's there are tons of girls and it's

760
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:17,279
Speaker 1: all over you know, it's all online. So it would

761
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:20,000
Speaker 1: have come out anyway. And it's just something that because

762
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:23,480
Speaker 1: I was there and because I knew it before Jamie

763
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:25,759
Speaker 1: knew it, basically, you know, I felt like it was

764
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:27,920
Speaker 1: my duty to really tell her the truth and then

765
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:30,000
Speaker 1: with that information she can do what she will with it.

766
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:32,719
Speaker 1: But it's like if you know that someone you care

767
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:35,759
Speaker 1: for was so hurt by someone, like, wouldn't you want

768
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:37,960
Speaker 1: to prevent that from happening to the next girl. You know,

769
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:39,880
Speaker 1: we were all twenty one at one point where we

770
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:42,799
Speaker 1: didn't maybe see things the way we do now. You know,

771
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 1: there's so many red flags you're not able to see

772
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:47,839
Speaker 1: when you're younger. I'm sure I've done that plenty, you know,

773
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 1: but at at the age I think that we're at now,

774
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 1: we're smarter, we're better, we're we're realizing, like who is

775
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:57,879
Speaker 1: really here for us? Or he was here just for themselves? So,

776
00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:00,759
Speaker 1: you know, I just felt like it was the right

777
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:02,960
Speaker 1: thing to do there. I would have hated myself had

778
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:04,960
Speaker 1: I stayed quiet throughout the whole show and then later

779
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:07,640
Speaker 1: on been like, hey, so guess what, you know, there's

780
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:10,000
Speaker 1: this thing maybe you should know. It's too I somebody

781
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:12,520
Speaker 1: that to me, I'd be like, why did you tell me? Sooner?

782
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 1: This would have helped me in so many different ways.

783
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 1: You know. I just feel like the person needs to

784
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:18,880
Speaker 1: know the truth, and then with that truth, they can

785
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:21,440
Speaker 1: make their decisions based on that, and I would completely

786
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:24,560
Speaker 1: support and respect whatever that decision would be. My mom

787
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:26,839
Speaker 1: was saying, like, oh, she's thirty three, Like you can

788
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:31,080
Speaker 1: tell her confidence. Yeah, I mean it comes with age,

789
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:33,279
Speaker 1: you know, Like I think every every time you go

790
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:35,399
Speaker 1: in a relationship where you go, I've had my heart

791
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:38,160
Speaker 1: broken so many times, I've been upset, I've been lied to,

792
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 1: I've been cheated. There's like there's just so many things

793
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:43,359
Speaker 1: you start to realize as you go on in your

794
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:44,920
Speaker 1: relationships where you're like, you know what, I'm not going

795
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:46,480
Speaker 1: to put up with this, and you're gonna be held

796
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 1: accountable for the citty things you've done and said or

797
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:52,680
Speaker 1: have been and like everyone's made mistakes. You know, I'm

798
00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:54,720
Speaker 1: not saying like, how dare he has made this terrible mistake.

799
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:56,560
Speaker 1: What I don't like is not owning up to your

800
00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:59,520
Speaker 1: mistakes and not trying to be better after those mistakes

801
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:02,680
Speaker 1: have been on. You know. That's what bothers me. Instead

802
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:05,920
Speaker 1: of like I confront him and the first thing he says, no, no, no,

803
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:08,160
Speaker 1: I didn't cheat, or no, no okay maybe a little okay, yeah,

804
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 1: well I emotionally cheated. Well I did. It's like, dude,

805
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:12,600
Speaker 1: I know what happened. You're like telling me is that

806
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:14,839
Speaker 1: I don't know what's up, you know, And I'm very

807
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:17,239
Speaker 1: like East Coast about that. It's like if I if

808
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:20,680
Speaker 1: I say it, it's like it's because I mean it,

809
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 1: I'm not beating around the book about stuff. It's like,

810
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 1: come on, dude, just own up to it, be a

811
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:27,400
Speaker 1: man about it, and I can respect you for it.

812
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 1: But the fact that he is what I'm like now,

813
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:32,919
Speaker 1: I still just can't get with you, because I mean

814
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:36,600
Speaker 1: momentally get with you, because you know it's just not

815
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:40,239
Speaker 1: adding up and that it's not cool. What I did

816
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:42,359
Speaker 1: like is the fact that you you called him out

817
00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:44,680
Speaker 1: for it. You had the conversation, he went to have

818
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:46,799
Speaker 1: the conversation with Jamie, and then you didn't really bring

819
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:48,839
Speaker 1: it up again, and you're like, Okay, well now it's

820
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 1: like your thing to deal with. Yeah, well that's the point. Like,

821
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:54,200
Speaker 1: that's not my goal going into this. I came into

822
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:57,360
Speaker 1: the house really excited and a little nervous. You know,

823
00:45:57,440 --> 00:45:59,400
Speaker 1: I'm the new girl in school. I don't know what

824
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:03,160
Speaker 1: to expect when I get there. I'm like, Okay, everyone's

825
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:05,400
Speaker 1: had a couple of days, they've all gotten to know

826
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:08,080
Speaker 1: each other. I'm like the last one to find out everything.

827
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:10,240
Speaker 1: I don't know what's been going on. A roads ceremony happened.

828
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:12,800
Speaker 1: I got so out of the loop, and everyone's getting

829
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:15,280
Speaker 1: to know each other, and I'm really behind and getting

830
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:18,400
Speaker 1: to know, you know, who these guys are and building

831
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:22,440
Speaker 1: connections and relationships, so that my focus was definitely not Trevor.

832
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:24,359
Speaker 1: It was kind of like, Okay, let me do what's right.

833
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:26,479
Speaker 1: Let me do what I would want a girl friend

834
00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:29,280
Speaker 1: to do for me, you know, defend her and really

835
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:32,600
Speaker 1: make it obvious, like, Okay, this person needs to just

836
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:35,360
Speaker 1: be aware of what's going on in her relationship. And

837
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 1: then all, you know, power to you if that's you

838
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 1: decide to continue with it. I respected. Everyone needs to

839
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:44,000
Speaker 1: go on their own journey and have their own path,

840
00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:45,520
Speaker 1: and I'm not like, who am I to stop that,

841
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:49,120
Speaker 1: you know, So as long as they have the info

842
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:51,759
Speaker 1: that they need, I can move on doing whatever it

843
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:53,759
Speaker 1: is I'm there for, which is to find someone and

844
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:57,600
Speaker 1: to make a connection. And I, uh, yeah, that's just

845
00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:01,759
Speaker 1: my My mission is totally differ Natasha, did you know

846
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:04,840
Speaker 1: that Trevor or any of the other castmates were going

847
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:07,799
Speaker 1: to be there before you walked into the house? Um?

848
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:09,759
Speaker 1: You mean like specific people who was going to be

849
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:12,760
Speaker 1: in the house. Yeah, yeah, definitely, I had no clue

850
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 1: who anybody was. I walked in the front door very

851
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:18,439
Speaker 1: excited and very nervous. But I found out that day

852
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:20,399
Speaker 1: when we were all kind of chatting and they were

853
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:22,960
Speaker 1: they were talking about like who's not there, and just

854
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:25,080
Speaker 1: the name, like something had come to me. I was like, no,

855
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:27,080
Speaker 1: this couldn't be, Like, I mean, I don't know that

856
00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:30,319
Speaker 1: many Trevors who are like guitar player musicians in l A.

857
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:32,080
Speaker 1: You know, there's not like a trillion of them. And

858
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:34,200
Speaker 1: you know, just for fun, I was like, this isn't

859
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 1: the American Idol Trevor. There might there might be a

860
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:41,160
Speaker 1: trillion of them. That's why I'm glad Ben asked that

861
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:43,080
Speaker 1: because I was a little curious. I was like, with

862
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:45,960
Speaker 1: just the fact that he was on a singing show

863
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:48,080
Speaker 1: and he lived in l A. And his name was Trevor,

864
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:50,400
Speaker 1: you were able to deduct that he was the Trevor

865
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:55,920
Speaker 1: for our American idol. And I was like, mother Trevor.

866
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:58,880
Speaker 1: And I've been like, okay, but like, what are the odds?

867
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:00,440
Speaker 1: It's just as crazy to me, is what are the

868
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 1: odds that I know? I thought I was going to

869
00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:04,480
Speaker 1: know like a potential musician there because obviously, you know,

870
00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:06,319
Speaker 1: the music world in l A, New York is kind

871
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:07,879
Speaker 1: of small. And I was like, oh, maybe it could

872
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:10,680
Speaker 1: be someone that I've worked with before, someone you know

873
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:13,759
Speaker 1: I played with, or I'm a bandmate or something from

874
00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:17,880
Speaker 1: some gig um, But it was Yeah, what was your

875
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:20,160
Speaker 1: thoughts that? I mean, if you didn't know when you

876
00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:23,080
Speaker 1: start hearing his name and he walks through the door

877
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:25,440
Speaker 1: after the date and it's time for you to confront him,

878
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:29,640
Speaker 1: what were your thoughts in that moment? I was just

879
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:32,160
Speaker 1: thinking about my girlfriend, really, you know, like what would

880
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:35,359
Speaker 1: I what would I want her to feel, how would

881
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:39,320
Speaker 1: I feel like I would be doing her right? You know? Um?

882
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:41,120
Speaker 1: And also just the fact that I'm like shocked that

883
00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:42,919
Speaker 1: he's even there in the first place, Like this isn't

884
00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:45,160
Speaker 1: a dude that just made one mistake with one girlfriend,

885
00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:49,120
Speaker 1: Like this is a serial issue that he's been having.

886
00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:51,440
Speaker 1: And clearly I didn't even know half of it until

887
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:53,360
Speaker 1: you know, filming was over, until I found out all

888
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:57,440
Speaker 1: these other things. Oh my god, let us know the

889
00:48:57,480 --> 00:49:00,719
Speaker 1: other things. It's been a serial issue and physically kidd

890
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:03,520
Speaker 1: before and does he always emotionally cheat? You gotta let

891
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:07,640
Speaker 1: us in. I mean, you don't don't take it from me,

892
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:09,439
Speaker 1: just google it. You know, there are tons of girls

893
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:13,799
Speaker 1: that are who wanted from nah, it from you. I mean,

894
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:16,080
Speaker 1: I can only say what I've been told and what

895
00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:18,759
Speaker 1: people have been coming to me saying. It's more like,

896
00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 1: there have been girls that he's been with for a

897
00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:23,040
Speaker 1: few months and then they feel like they're in a

898
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:25,000
Speaker 1: relationship with him, and then one girl was like, yeah,

899
00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:27,879
Speaker 1: you know, um, he was being a little funny. He's like, yeah,

900
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:29,399
Speaker 1: I'm going a business trip I see in a couple

901
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:31,400
Speaker 1: of days, and then she finds out he's on vacation

902
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:34,919
Speaker 1: with another girl, like in the middle of this relationship.

903
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 1: So it's just crazy. Yeah, it's just very crazy to

904
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:40,839
Speaker 1: me how people can say yeah, I'm ready to find

905
00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:43,440
Speaker 1: the one, like a couple of weeks later after pulling

906
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:46,840
Speaker 1: something like that. You know, it just doesn't sounds like, dude,

907
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:50,040
Speaker 1: come on, well we watched you in this episode, and

908
00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:56,160
Speaker 1: actually I'm gonna uh just ask this because for you, Um,

909
00:49:56,280 --> 00:50:01,759
Speaker 1: but what's it like kissing Ryan? I'm a fan girl

910
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:07,000
Speaker 1: about Ryan. That's why he says like that, who doesn't adorable?

911
00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:10,680
Speaker 1: He's adorable. You know, he goes in hard on on

912
00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:13,799
Speaker 1: the tongue. I don't know what he thought, because you know,

913
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:19,080
Speaker 1: I don't know that, not myself, Okay, but you know,

914
00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:20,719
Speaker 1: it's got a it's a it's a flow. The good

915
00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:23,279
Speaker 1: thing is is that it was instant connection. I think

916
00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:26,080
Speaker 1: between the two of us. Uh, when we first got

917
00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:30,640
Speaker 1: to talk and have some more intimate moments and our

918
00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:33,640
Speaker 1: first kiss was really nice. There was chemistry. I felt it.

919
00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:36,839
Speaker 1: There was just something different about him, between me and him,

920
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:38,120
Speaker 1: and the words with a lot of the other guys

921
00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:40,720
Speaker 1: in the in the house, were you talking up until

922
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:43,239
Speaker 1: the rose ceremony, because we really only see you and

923
00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:48,719
Speaker 1: Ryan connect during the pre rose ceremony cocktail party and

924
00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:51,600
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden you're making out hardcore and

925
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:53,640
Speaker 1: I'm just it was that. Was there a build up

926
00:50:53,640 --> 00:51:01,120
Speaker 1: to that? Yeah, I'm not a crazy how guys? Yeah? Yeah, No, definitely.

927
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:02,640
Speaker 1: It was a little tough in the beginning, you know,

928
00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:04,279
Speaker 1: because I get there and then a lot of like

929
00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:06,560
Speaker 1: half the guys are terrified. They're like, oh God, what

930
00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:10,479
Speaker 1: is this girl like starting to talk, you know, two

931
00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:14,239
Speaker 1: people about our beloved Trevor and then and it was

932
00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:16,360
Speaker 1: hard to kind of start. So I was talking to

933
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:18,040
Speaker 1: a few boys, you know, I was trying to get

934
00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:23,840
Speaker 1: to know everybody, and um, everyone was just so sweet

935
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:26,560
Speaker 1: and lovely and and it it took me and Ryan

936
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:28,919
Speaker 1: like a little bit. But then we had a few moments.

937
00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:30,720
Speaker 1: We had a few moments by the fire Pim started

938
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:32,920
Speaker 1: talking and he just made me feel so at ease

939
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:36,560
Speaker 1: and so relaxed and very myself and comfortable. And you know,

940
00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:39,719
Speaker 1: I loved I loved his energy. You know, he was

941
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:43,920
Speaker 1: very relaxed, and there was just like a quiet confidence

942
00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:47,880
Speaker 1: about him that I was attracted to. And yeah, I

943
00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:52,839
Speaker 1: felt like it was mutual. Say his name without smiling.

944
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:57,040
Speaker 1: This is my mom's test. Now you're asking me for

945
00:51:57,080 --> 00:52:00,640
Speaker 1: crazy things. Oh see, she can't do it it. She

946
00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:04,960
Speaker 1: still smiles when she says the name Ryan. Guys. In

947
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:10,000
Speaker 1: the in the scenes for for the next episode, we

948
00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:13,160
Speaker 1: see Ryan up on stage with a girl with the

949
00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:17,120
Speaker 1: long brunette ponytail. Do you have a different color hair

950
00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:20,160
Speaker 1: that you debuted next week? Because I'm a little bit confused. Okay,

951
00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:22,080
Speaker 1: So when you put your hair in a certain way,

952
00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:28,280
Speaker 1: it gets darker. Okay, her under bottom is darker. Guys, Um,

953
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:29,919
Speaker 1: I have a lot of different highlights in my hair,

954
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:33,160
Speaker 1: and I might have used a little fun extension ponytail

955
00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:36,080
Speaker 1: to make it. Okay, so it is you with him

956
00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:39,080
Speaker 1: on stage? I am naturally you know Brunette, So I'm

957
00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:43,640
Speaker 1: I am Alina under there. Okay, alright, well Ben, do

958
00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:47,680
Speaker 1: you have anything else for Natasha? Natasha? After watching episode

959
00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:52,759
Speaker 1: one and knowing that you're coming on episode two, what

960
00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:58,960
Speaker 1: were your feelings like now as you watch this week? Um,

961
00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:01,920
Speaker 1: it's just it's nerve wracking because you you know, you

962
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:05,440
Speaker 1: guys have to really pay attention to what's coming up

963
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:07,879
Speaker 1: next because there's so many different dimensions to this show.

964
00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:10,560
Speaker 1: I know, you guys obviously know the ins and outs

965
00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:14,240
Speaker 1: of how it's done, but I feel like this specific

966
00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:17,120
Speaker 1: show is so unlike any other Bachelor's show because the

967
00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:22,799
Speaker 1: contestants are like different levels of of intents, you know,

968
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:25,600
Speaker 1: like the creativity I think that musicians have naturally just

969
00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:28,160
Speaker 1: brings every emotion to like another level. You know. If

970
00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:30,760
Speaker 1: we're sad, we're like, we're like down there. If we're happy,

971
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:33,480
Speaker 1: we're going crazy. It's like, you know, we're overly passionate

972
00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:36,480
Speaker 1: in every direction of emotions. So I think it's just

973
00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:38,799
Speaker 1: gonna be crazy to see what happens next. So I've

974
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:40,799
Speaker 1: been kind of on that roller coaster as well. I'm like,

975
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:43,480
Speaker 1: oh God, I don't know what's to come, um, and

976
00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:45,040
Speaker 1: how things are going to go down because you know,

977
00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:47,040
Speaker 1: when you live them sometimes it's not always the way

978
00:53:47,080 --> 00:53:49,360
Speaker 1: you see them. So I don't know. I'm excited to

979
00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:51,759
Speaker 1: see how it goes. I'm happy with how you know,

980
00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:56,040
Speaker 1: how things have been going so far, and let's hope

981
00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:59,920
Speaker 1: it keeps going that way. Okay, Well, Natasha, you've been awesome.

982
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:05,480
Speaker 1: Final question from me. Would you rather they a country

983
00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:11,960
Speaker 1: singer or a pop singer? Yeah? You know, it's hard

984
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:15,399
Speaker 1: because country boys are real good boys. You know, they love,

985
00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:19,239
Speaker 1: they love their family there there they can write a

986
00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:22,839
Speaker 1: mean love song. You know. I love that about country boys.

987
00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:25,000
Speaker 1: I was actually excited to have, you know, to have

988
00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:27,279
Speaker 1: maybe like a lot of country boys are going on

989
00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:28,759
Speaker 1: in the house, but it seems like a lot of

990
00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:32,600
Speaker 1: us are more pop focused. Um, I'm a pop girl,

991
00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:35,719
Speaker 1: so yeah, you know, country music is fun. I like,

992
00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:37,759
Speaker 1: I like to mix stuff up and be different. But

993
00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:42,040
Speaker 1: you know, pops were my heart's at and I need

994
00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:44,520
Speaker 1: to ask you to tease a little bit more of

995
00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:47,520
Speaker 1: what's to come and listen to your heart. Are there

996
00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:50,200
Speaker 1: any couples that seem so strong right now that we're

997
00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:52,520
Speaker 1: going to see break apart? And are there any people

998
00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:55,319
Speaker 1: in the house that are going to form a relationship

999
00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:59,200
Speaker 1: like we never imagined. Oh my goodness, that's a good question,

1000
00:54:59,239 --> 00:55:02,600
Speaker 1: to be honest. Things happened that you would not expect

1001
00:55:02,600 --> 00:55:04,480
Speaker 1: at all. Things happened that I did not expect at all.

1002
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:06,040
Speaker 1: I think things happened that the people that were in

1003
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:08,520
Speaker 1: it didn't expect it to happen at all. It was

1004
00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:12,120
Speaker 1: literally one of the craziest things seeing things go from

1005
00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:15,359
Speaker 1: like full one eighties consistently. And that's what's so cool

1006
00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:17,359
Speaker 1: about this is that you really don't know what's coming

1007
00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:22,480
Speaker 1: next until you watch, because it's crazy. It sounds like

1008
00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:24,960
Speaker 1: the Bachelor and Bachelor Natasha. We appreciate you coming on.

1009
00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:28,799
Speaker 1: Thanks for answering our questions. Uh we we look forward

1010
00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:32,240
Speaker 1: to watching your journey along the way. Remember everybody listening

1011
00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:37,160
Speaker 1: to your heart uh airs Monday nights on ABC. Natasha,

1012
00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:42,040
Speaker 1: thank you so much. Then, thank you and Ben, congratulations

1013
00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:46,959
Speaker 1: on your engagement. Thank you very exciting, Thanks very much.

1014
00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:58,719
Speaker 1: Thanks guys. Then, there's one thing I didn't talk to

1015
00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:02,440
Speaker 1: Natasha about that I was thinking about. Can you believe

1016
00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:07,279
Speaker 1: that house, like that Bachelor house is unreal. It's like

1017
00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:11,920
Speaker 1: a it's like a Saudi Arabian prince house. It's insane.

1018
00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:16,520
Speaker 1: Do you think there's any chance that this will become

1019
00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:20,160
Speaker 1: the Bachelor Mansion? I kind of do, And it kind

1020
00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:22,560
Speaker 1: of makes me sad because I have so much austalgia

1021
00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:26,799
Speaker 1: and memories of watching the show back watching you know,

1022
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:30,319
Speaker 1: the house, but this house just seems so much more

1023
00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:33,879
Speaker 1: equipped for the show. It looks a lot bigger, right,

1024
00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:37,759
Speaker 1: so much bigger. I mean the Bachelor Mansion, of course,

1025
00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:40,720
Speaker 1: is a nice big house, but you know, with thirty

1026
00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:47,200
Speaker 1: or twenty four people in it, plus it's tight, and

1027
00:56:47,239 --> 00:56:50,720
Speaker 1: then that house looks like, oh yeah, you could sleep

1028
00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:54,279
Speaker 1: thirty people in there. Yeah, that house looks huge. You're right, Ash,

1029
00:56:54,440 --> 00:56:57,400
Speaker 1: I look at the house and it is insane. I mean,

1030
00:56:57,440 --> 00:57:00,200
Speaker 1: I think anybody watching it's not only beautiful, but it is.

1031
00:57:00,640 --> 00:57:03,680
Speaker 1: It is. Uh, it is well done and really good

1032
00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:05,800
Speaker 1: for the show, and you've got to think about it.

1033
00:57:05,840 --> 00:57:07,439
Speaker 1: They have a rose ceremony and then there's a whole

1034
00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:09,400
Speaker 1: separate room that they can all hang out in and

1035
00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:11,560
Speaker 1: wait for people to walk down the hallway, and it's

1036
00:57:11,560 --> 00:57:16,400
Speaker 1: always a huge so wild. Yeah, you're right. Now, I'm

1037
00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:18,680
Speaker 1: not going to be surprised if that becomes Bachelor Mansion

1038
00:57:18,760 --> 00:57:20,720
Speaker 1: number one, which would be it would be sad. I

1039
00:57:20,720 --> 00:57:22,760
Speaker 1: don't know if I like that. I wonder if it's

1040
00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:25,320
Speaker 1: somebody else's house or I'm sure it's somebody else's house.

1041
00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:28,160
Speaker 1: That's not just like for shoots, because I'm wondering if

1042
00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:30,120
Speaker 1: Marshall would be kind of happy that he wouldn't have

1043
00:57:30,160 --> 00:57:32,320
Speaker 1: to move in and out so many times throughout the year.

1044
00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:35,120
Speaker 1: I think Marshall has been taking care of over the years.

1045
00:57:35,120 --> 00:57:37,640
Speaker 1: I think he's I think I think he has a

1046
00:57:37,720 --> 00:57:41,040
Speaker 1: house up there for a reason. Also, that is not Uh.

1047
00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:43,959
Speaker 1: Some opinions came out there thinking that that was Chris

1048
00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:45,720
Speaker 1: Harrison's house that there now and that is not Chris

1049
00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:49,040
Speaker 1: Harrison's house. Um, it's not his. Like we can promise

1050
00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:53,320
Speaker 1: that a Bachelor Nation. Uh, it wouldn't be uh an

1051
00:57:53,360 --> 00:57:55,280
Speaker 1: off season without one of our favorite guests, and one

1052
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Speaker 1: of our favorite guests is always Kindle, Long Kindle, Welcome

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Speaker 1: back to the Almost Fair podcast. Hello, thank you for

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Speaker 1: having me again. Hello. Before we got you on the phone,

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Speaker 1: we were talking about how you call your sister your

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Speaker 1: soul mate and then like you're just looking for a

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Speaker 1: guy to be like a lover companion, Like what would

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Speaker 1: you call like the guy that you're looking for in

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Speaker 1: your life. Um, I probably just like a side like

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Speaker 1: not a sidekick, but you know, like a companion, opinion. Well,

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Speaker 1: someone that would kind of be my be my strength

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Speaker 1: when I feel weak, gotcha. And I know I've heard

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Speaker 1: you say this before, but not until I was talking

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Speaker 1: to Ben about it, was I thinking, yeah, you know what,

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Speaker 1: I think my sister is my soul mate too. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I feel like I think maybe if my sister and

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Speaker 1: I were kind of like puzzled pieces because we've grown

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Speaker 1: up super close to our entire we've learned to adapt

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Speaker 1: to each other's ways, and um, like she's strong where

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Speaker 1: I'm weak and i'm you know, because we kind of

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Speaker 1: go back and forth like that. So that's kind of

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Speaker 1: the best way I describe it with her. Have you

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Speaker 1: always felt this way? Like I want to ask both

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Speaker 1: of you? I mean, actually I know this, yeah, like

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Speaker 1: kind of like a realization, but kindle, even when you've

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Speaker 1: been in relationships in the past, like romantic relationships, have

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Speaker 1: you still felt like your sister is that that missing

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Speaker 1: puzzle piece? Um, I mean, I think she's probably there

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Speaker 1: as my best friend when it comes to a romantic

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Speaker 1: relationship that fulfills like a whole different side of what

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Speaker 1: I'm looking for in somebody. Um, but she is. I

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Speaker 1: think in a way, I feel like I don't feel

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Speaker 1: pressured to have to find someone like that because I

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Speaker 1: have such a strong family and I have such a

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Speaker 1: strong like home base that I don't necessarily for the

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Speaker 1: pressure for that. Just a question. When I'm when I'm

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Speaker 1: with Jared and Lauren together, then I'm like, I'm a

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Speaker 1: whole crew here. Am I got everything right here? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: They have to get along with this is my sister

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Speaker 1: freaking lately? Are you speaking of that? Are you dating

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Speaker 1: at all these days? Is there anybody in your life? Uh? No, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean I feel like social distancing helps with with

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Speaker 1: not I'm dating right now? Um, but no one. I'm

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Speaker 1: not in any dating apps or anything. I feel like

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Speaker 1: I'm just focusing on like me and my family and friends,

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Speaker 1: and um, that doesn't include a guy right now. Not

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Speaker 1: that I'm opposed to it. I guess it's just not

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Speaker 1: my number one priorities, do you? I guess for the audience,

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Speaker 1: how long has it been since you and Joe broke up?

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Speaker 1: I think it's been ever since June January. I'm sorry.

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Speaker 1: Anywhere I was gonna say that was the quickest year

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Speaker 1: of my life, right five yeah, so it probably board

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Speaker 1: five months, I would say, And during one of the months,

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Speaker 1: we were like living together while we're broken up, So

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Speaker 1: um yeah, it's been a significant amount of time, which

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Speaker 1: is interesting. Its weird how the fast time goes. How's

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Speaker 1: your heart and how often are you talking to joel I?

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Speaker 1: Joe and I talked kind of not a lot, but

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Speaker 1: we talked a couple of times a week. Um. I

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Speaker 1: think it's difficult once you feel like you see that

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Speaker 1: future with somebody for me and I'm sure for him

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Speaker 1: in a lot of ways to we thought we were

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Speaker 1: going to get engaged, um and we're going to spend

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Speaker 1: the rest of our lives together. So um yeah. I

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Speaker 1: feel like we still kind depend on each other for

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Speaker 1: a lot of emotional support and that way, we're still friends.

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Speaker 1: We didn't break up for any kind of reason besides

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Speaker 1: wanting to be in different places in the future, so

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Speaker 1: um yeah, there's still a lot of love there. The

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Speaker 1: for any of our listeners out there who have been

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Speaker 1: through a breakup and you know out I don't know

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Speaker 1: and Nolly sit in a time of isolation. They're not

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Speaker 1: dating any advice for them. Um, I feel like there's

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Speaker 1: ways to still find like human connection, and I find

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Speaker 1: that the people that have that in relationships all with already,

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Speaker 1: like my friends and family, those relationships were growing so

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Speaker 1: much stronger because of this. So I've been focusing that

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Speaker 1: making sure that people are okay in my life and

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Speaker 1: kind of like I'm kind of more like a how

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Speaker 1: do I describe it? Like I feel like not like

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Speaker 1: a mom, but I feel like I like to cater

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Speaker 1: to people and make sure they're okay. So like for me,

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Speaker 1: that helps a lot to have that and then getting

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Speaker 1: that back from them. But dating wise, like you're dating

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Speaker 1: long distance right now, right unless you're quarantined together. You've

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Speaker 1: heard stories of people actually being quarantined with someone that

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Speaker 1: they just met like intwo for like two weeks and

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Speaker 1: they're dating. So that's that's absolutely crazy. I mean, for

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Speaker 1: for me, quarantine has been interesting because just Gonna didn't

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Speaker 1: get to spend a lot of time together and now

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Speaker 1: we do. UM. But I do think there's been really

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Speaker 1: creative ways that people have been connecting and talking and

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Speaker 1: sharing their lives with each other. Kendle, You've always been

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Speaker 1: an intentional person. You've always been curious, and you've always

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Speaker 1: found intrigue and others. What have you been up to

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Speaker 1: during this time of isolation? Um? Right, I mean I've

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Speaker 1: been focusing a lot of time with my family. My

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Speaker 1: family is pretty close by and OXNRDS, so I've been

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Speaker 1: seeing them a lot um. And I've been writing, um,

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Speaker 1: doing a lot of writing. I'm doing this question book

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Speaker 1: thing and it's been really fun to do that. Working

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Speaker 1: on the podcast. Uh, Pistachio has been absolutely crazy my

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Speaker 1: little dogs, so I've been uh yeah, hanging out with

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Speaker 1: him a lot um. Reading. I've been reading so much

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Speaker 1: so I feel like it was taking time to invest

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Speaker 1: in things that I'm passionate about. Cooking a lot of pasta.

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Speaker 1: I've been cooking so much process every other day pasta dish.

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Speaker 1: It's like the only thing I know how to make well.

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Speaker 1: And plus, I mean it's the best fit in the

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Speaker 1: entire world. Kendall. I feel like you and I are

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Speaker 1: kind of the same. I feel like we're kind of

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Speaker 1: people that don't really ever get bored. Have you felt bored? No?

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Speaker 1: But but I think I owe that to my mom

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Speaker 1: a lot. I used to put us alone in a

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Speaker 1: crew with like one toy and we'd have to entertain ourselves.

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Speaker 1: I think she made it a point to feel like

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Speaker 1: you don't have to be overly stimulated by a bunch

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Speaker 1: of stuff to happiness. To find happiness like simple things

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Speaker 1: in life. So do I give credit to you for that?

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Speaker 1: My mom always says people who get bored are boring. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's what we should even like do art projects like

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Speaker 1: painted a lot and I attempted a puzzle, but I

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Speaker 1: don't know. I can't get into I don't know why.

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Speaker 1: I think it's an amazing characteristic for you guys not

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Speaker 1: to get bored. I as an only child, I feel

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Speaker 1: like I was kind of gifted with the ability that

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Speaker 1: I can't ever get bored. I have to entertain myself

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Speaker 1: from gonna be the most like and so here here's

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Speaker 1: a good rebuttal. Sometimes I get called boring. But if

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Speaker 1: you're right that boring people boring people get bored, Well,

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Speaker 1: I don't get bored, so you're not boring. That's my proof. Kindle.

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Speaker 1: It's always a pleasure to catch up with you. Uh,

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Speaker 1: We're wishing the best before we go. You are our

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Speaker 1: host this week on What's Cooking Batch Nations. What's cooking

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Speaker 1: Batch Nation Kindle, you have a recipe that you want

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Speaker 1: to tell our almost famous listeners all about. Yes, So

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Speaker 1: something I've been making a lot is vegan, like macaroni

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Speaker 1: and cheese. So I've been expermenting a lot with pasta.

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Speaker 1: So I make pasta with UM two cups double zero flower,

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Speaker 1: UM two tablespoons of water. Zero flower is the key

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Speaker 1: you how to use that for pasta. And so it

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Speaker 1: makes kind of I think it just makes it. Really,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, a lot more. You can help build

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Speaker 1: the glue minute a lot more um and so you yeah,

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Speaker 1: the gluten. You don't get any sort of reaction. I'm

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Speaker 1: all about gluten. It's it's oh yeah. But like the

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Speaker 1: Durham wheat, which is the zero zero just makes you

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Speaker 1: digest it so much easier in my personal opinion, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's yeah. I feel like I I do that because

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Speaker 1: I went to like this one Italian shop and they

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Speaker 1: said you have to use the double zero flower. So

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Speaker 1: that's what I always get whenever I make pasta. And

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Speaker 1: I put three eggs yolks in an egg and then

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Speaker 1: you create a little nest of m flour with a

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Speaker 1: pinch of salt and you put the eggs in water

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Speaker 1: and olive oil inside the middle, and you whisk it

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Speaker 1: around and create a dough and you need that for

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Speaker 1: like five or six minutes, and then I push it

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Speaker 1: through like a pasta machine. Um, and then you put

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Speaker 1: it in water. And then when I make the vegan sauce,

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Speaker 1: and you have a pumpkin, um, and then I do

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Speaker 1: nutritional yeast um, nutritional yeast, smoked pepper, salt, olive oil,

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Speaker 1: and then an onion, and I put it in a

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Speaker 1: food processor and then it's veg and cheese. That can

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Speaker 1: you taste kind of lobster bits? Really it's weird. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's really good. Where does the lobster? Wait? Where where

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Speaker 1: does the lobster bisk come from? Where does that flavor

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Speaker 1: come out? Last time I made it? It's weaste like that.

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Speaker 1: I think it's because the olive oil mixture of pumpkin

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Speaker 1: kind of taste lobstery. It's really weird. Interesting my friends

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Speaker 1: and orange cream sauce. How long does this cook take

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Speaker 1: to make? Um? I would say pasta is pretty quick,

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Speaker 1: but this let's sit for thirty minutes. So it's like

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Speaker 1: you want to prep it before and then after three

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Speaker 1: minutes of waiting, then you push it through and then

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Speaker 1: the sauce itself, you just have to probably have a

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Speaker 1: pumpkiny probably bake it like forty five minutes and you

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Speaker 1: just a pure everything. Don't forget garlic. We won't more

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Speaker 1: garlic the better. It's it's it's good to keep people

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Speaker 1: at a social distance right now. Um, hey, kindle things again.

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Speaker 1: We appreciate you. Uh, we'll talk to you again very soon.

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Speaker 1: Uh and uh and we do truly wish you the best.

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Speaker 1: You guys do relations by the way, and you're engagement then,

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Speaker 1: thanks Kendall. That's awesome, Thank you. Uh, Ashley. I've got

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Speaker 1: to get going my uh my family tonight. I don't

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Speaker 1: know what it's gonna be. Um, but they we we

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Speaker 1: drove up here, I'm not kidding you, NonStop um to

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Speaker 1: be with my dad for his birthday, and uh my

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Speaker 1: parents then in return, because they hadn't been able to

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Speaker 1: celebrate Jessica and I, they asked if tonight they could

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Speaker 1: do us a date night. So I don't know what

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be, but I'm locked upstairs right now in

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Speaker 1: a room, and I know my mom and dad are

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Speaker 1: downstairs setting up the bottom floor and Also they are

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Speaker 1: preparing to be uh to cook us dinner, to serve us,

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Speaker 1: and to uh make us have a date night, and

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Speaker 1: they want to I guess, I don't know yet. It's

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Speaker 1: all surprised. But Jessica has to be in my room

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Speaker 1: locked in, and I have to be upstairs, and we

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Speaker 1: can't go downstairs until dates ready, So I've got to

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Speaker 1: keep going. That's adorable, Okay, have fun. I'm jealous. That

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Speaker 1: is a second. I know I'm squealing and I should

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Speaker 1: probably stop. This has been the almost fame as podcasts,

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Speaker 1: and I've been We'll talk later. Follow the Benn and

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Speaker 1: Ashley I Almost Famous podcast on I Heart Radio or

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