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Speaker 1: From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is

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Speaker 1: riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or

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Speaker 1: learn the stuff they don't want you to know. A

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Speaker 2: Hello, welcome back to the show. My name is Matt,

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Speaker 2: my name.

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Speaker 3: Is no They call me Ben.

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Speaker 4: We're joined as always with our super producer Dylan the

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Speaker 4: Tennessee pal Fagan. Most importantly, you are here that makes

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Speaker 4: this these stuff they don't want you to know. Although

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Speaker 4: we are recording, we're well recording. On Wednesday, January twenty eighth.

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Speaker 4: This is publishing. Our weekly Strange news segment is publishing

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Speaker 4: on February second. So welcome to Monday, every body. Since

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Speaker 4: I'm just going to keep that, keep that slip of

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Speaker 4: the tongue for a few more.

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Speaker 3: Princess Ben, I love it. Thank you. It's funny you

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Speaker 3: did that. I've been talking that way all morning because

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Speaker 3: I have this ridiculous, tiny white dog wearing a little

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Speaker 3: pink bow princess outfit. So I've been talking like that myself.

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Speaker 3: So a man after my own heart. Oh thank you.

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Speaker 4: It might just be the might just be the radical

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Speaker 4: sleep deprivation, like the old creepy pasta about that.

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Speaker 3: Uh, what was that? When the Russian sleep experiment? Do

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Speaker 3: you guys remember that? Oh? I don't know about that.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I'll send it to you.

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Speaker 3: It's it's a heck of a read. I've been enjoying

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Speaker 3: a lot of these memes where it's like, my sleep

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Speaker 3: paralysis demon is Guy Fieri? Stuff like that? You know, Yeah, yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 3: He's just he's just lurking in the background. But it's

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Speaker 3: anyone that can be kind of like identified by their silhouette.

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Speaker 3: It's just been become kind of a format. Cool.

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Speaker 4: Did you guys see the pretty good I'm pretty sure

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Speaker 4: it had to be Ai. But there was a recent

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Speaker 4: thing with a guy who had a birthday coming up

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Speaker 4: where apparently he posted a picture where he changed his

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Speaker 4: look entirely so that he looked like a real life

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Speaker 4: family guy. Cause player, let me see if I.

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Speaker 3: Can find amazing You think it was a I kind

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Speaker 3: of believed it, But boy, oh boy, I've mentioned this

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Speaker 3: how AI is really causing me to distrust just about everything?

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Speaker 3: But is it? Can we confirm him? Because it looked like, okay,

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Speaker 3: he looked like he just maybe shaved and put on

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Speaker 4: Let me share the pictures so we can see it

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Speaker 4: in folks, you can look it up as well. Just say,

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Speaker 4: just go to your platform of choice and put Guy

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Speaker 3: Look. There we go. I hope it's real. I want

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Speaker 3: it to be real. I hope it's real too. But

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Speaker 3: let let us know what you think.

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Speaker 4: What am I on point when I say possible family

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Speaker 4: guy couse playing Peter Griffin a little?

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Speaker 3: I mean he's definitely yeah, giving that for sure.

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Speaker 4: Anyway, that's that's obviously that's the most important thing that's

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Speaker 4: happened in the past few weeks. Sorry, Minnesota, Iran, Texas,

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Speaker 4: AI psychedelics and plagues.

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Speaker 2: Kidding well, I've got a little quick story we could

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Speaker 2: just briefly mention here if you guys don't mind mil nuts.

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Speaker 2: Do you remember that thing called the Line out in

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. I was really hoping. I was.

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Speaker 3: I'm not being I'm not joking.

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Speaker 4: I was sincerely hoping that one would work out and

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Speaker 3: Is that like the secret? What is the line? I

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Speaker 2: The line is this massive one point five trillion dollar

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Speaker 2: horizontal skyscraper. Yeah, in but not just a skyscraper. Imagine

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Speaker 3: But or like the documentary Biodome with polychor yeah, but

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Speaker 4: Everybody was skeptical when it was initially being proposed, just

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Speaker 2: Okay, the update comes to us from futurism. Oh, an

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Speaker 2: it's not going great. The one hundred miles in length

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Speaker 2: going way over cost already. It's not it looks like

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna read directly from this. According to new reporting

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Speaker 2: more twist in store for us. The Saudi government is

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Speaker 2: we're not kidding data centers, right, AI data centers?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, any more of those? Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean also, it's a some cause fallacy because

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Speaker 3: Sometimes you gotta pivot, right.

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Speaker 4: I've tried to remember the last member of our corporate

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Speaker 3: Did we ever have a pivot conversation? Always, Yeah, you

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Speaker 3: I heard the most icky corporate term I think I've

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Speaker 4: And then the churn could be bad if it is, uh,

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Speaker 3: Yes, churn the butter, but churn can also just mean

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and we know that there are a lot of

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Speaker 4: Around the United States are what we call ice detention centers.

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Speaker 4: there are stories that are a small snapshot of a

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Speaker 3: Right right, and it seems like what we're describing here

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Speaker 4: more recent headline. Just yesterday in the United States January

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Speaker 4: LGBTQ Nation, has reported that at least twenty ice and

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Speaker 3: One hundred percent. And Ben, just last thing for me,

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 4: I try again. I try so ardently not to put

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Speaker 2: I agree, And I wonder if you guys are seeing

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Speaker 3: Sure, pick it up, Smoke them if you got.

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Speaker 2: Daring, daring some kind of some kind of pushback or

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Speaker 3: That's what I'm thinking, man.

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Speaker 4: It's an attempt to It's an attempt to push whether

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Speaker 4: It's an attempt to push for causes belly right, a

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Speaker 2: You guys, do you've been no? You do see that coming, right?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a good point, because like the idea then becomes,

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Speaker 3: It's an active crime stity, right and certain.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we'll count the votes later after we kick the

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Speaker 3: Right back between what was it Gore hanging Chad, Sit

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Speaker 4: Cool name for a dumb idea, but I like everything

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Speaker 3: Lastly, while we're on this, the postmark rules have changed.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 2: We don't know anything more than anyone else. But we

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Speaker 2: That's powder, Yeah, that's exactly what I think we are

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Speaker 4: Here's another example of precedent, the idea of these hotels

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Speaker 3: Could we say.

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Speaker 4: This goes back to the Quartering Act of seventeen sixty

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Speaker 3: Again.

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Speaker 4: Look, I think it's fine that we went long on

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Speaker 4: Tune in at the very end of our show today

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Speaker 4: and we'll give you We'll give you one of those,

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Speaker 4: but for now. We can't wait to hear from you

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Speaker 4: with your thoughts. Be safe out there, how your loved

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Speaker 4: ones drop us an email conspiracy dieheartradio dot com. We're

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Speaker 4: gonna pause for word from our sponsors and let's get

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Speaker 4: to something completely different that I'm really excited about one

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Speaker 4: of these.

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Speaker 3: And we're back. And you know, I've never fancied myself

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Speaker 3: a writer, per se. I work in public media, having

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Speaker 3: to you know, file stories and things, audio stories, and

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Speaker 3: I would ocasionally have to write a headline. But I'm

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Speaker 3: proud of this one. I made this one up, guys.

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Speaker 3: Flesh eating fly infestation heading for us further proof these

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Speaker 3: are the end times? Well done? Yeah yeah. The CDC

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Speaker 3: is warning doctors to look for the symptoms brought on

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Speaker 3: by an organism called the screw worm, because we are

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Speaker 3: all screwed doctors. This is from a piece from the

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Speaker 3: Hill Are on Alert as a dangerous, potentially deadly parasite.

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Speaker 3: The New World screwworm inches its way close to the

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Speaker 3: United States album name. That's an album name for sure,

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Speaker 3: New World screw the New World screw Worm. It's a

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Speaker 3: bit of a mouthful tool. Dead On Ben dead On,

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Speaker 3: the screw worm has moved into the Mexican state of

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Speaker 3: Tomi leap Us, which is just across the border from Texas.

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Speaker 3: The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention issue to health

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Speaker 3: alert this week, notifying clinicians and public experts to look

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Speaker 3: for signs of the parasite its presence and guys, this

466
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:08,760
Speaker 3: is a bad boy. They lay their eggs in wounds, noses, eyes,

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Speaker 3: mouths ears, and the eggs then develop into parasitic larvae

468
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Speaker 3: or maggots that feed on the surrounding flesh as they

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Speaker 3: burrow their way deeper and deeper into your body. Do

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Speaker 3: you remember the first time we talked about these guys.

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Speaker 3: I don't. This is new to me. We talked about

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Speaker 3: so much, like kind of spaced on it if we did.

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Speaker 3: But cattle, they are a big problem for lifestyle.

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Speaker 4: It's our dairy and gap episode because in twenty twenty two,

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Speaker 4: so for a long time, the give it to us

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Speaker 4: to get the new world screw worm right. The dairy

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Speaker 4: and gap function is a fire break. So the cattle

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Speaker 4: that were infected, the people that were infected honestly as well,

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Speaker 4: couldn't get through that mess of Central America. But I

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Speaker 4: believe since two that natural barriers no longer worked, so

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Speaker 4: the plague is on the way.

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Speaker 3: Right, And just to go off topic really quickly, if

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Speaker 3: anyone hasn't seen the Apple TV Vince Gilligan show Pluribus

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Speaker 3: there it's excellent. I think we all love it. But

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Speaker 3: there is an episode that is all about the dairying

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Speaker 3: gap and involves a traversal of the dairying gap showing

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Speaker 3: just exactly how inhospitable and dangerous that very unsettled. You know,

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Speaker 3: part of the world is so out that you're interested just.

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Speaker 4: Bringing up the dairying gap because in that episode and

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Speaker 4: then in scientific literature, the boffins have been warning people

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Speaker 4: about this plague as we're calling it, for.

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Speaker 3: A long time. You got to listen to the nerds man.

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Speaker 3: There's a reason you do nerds well. And speaking of

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Speaker 3: the plague of it all, let's just go quickly through

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Speaker 3: some of the symptoms. We're talking visible larvae or egg masses,

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Speaker 3: which might be wounds, ears, eyes, nos mouths, or another

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Speaker 3: body orifice, destruction of healthy tissue, people reporting a sensation

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Speaker 3: of movement in a wound or orifice, foul odor, bloody discharge,

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Speaker 3: swelling or pain around a wound or orifice and look

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Speaker 3: out for folks who have recently traveled to areas where

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Speaker 3: the screwworm is present, like Mexico and Central America. CDC's

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Speaker 3: advising the clinicians remove all the eggs and larvae from

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Speaker 3: the person's body, which may require surgery if the maggots

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Speaker 3: have burrowed deep enough.

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Speaker 2: Hey, this sounds like a call for more ivermectin. Remember

506
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Speaker 2: that old fella ivermectin.

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Speaker 3: Wasn't that like a horse dewormer or something like that.

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Speaker 2: Or it's an anti parasite, that parasitic treatment, famous for

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Speaker 2: its COVID nineteen ure through it.

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Speaker 3: Around for a little bit.

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Speaker 4: This basically injectable ASP cures everything that ails you. So

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Speaker 4: it is not medical advice, and we are not doctors.

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Speaker 3: No, don't take tilent all, but also take enough aspirin

514
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 3: that you can blame that on your rotting flesh. And

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Speaker 3: have you noticed Dud's wearing one glove now? Oh, yeah,

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00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:19,000
Speaker 3: the press he's wearing one glove over the hands, probably

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Speaker 3: because of the yeah that's what I'm saying. Like he's

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Speaker 3: wearing wal blow also, which is some doctor evil type stuff.

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00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:29,960
Speaker 4: Also, folks, friends, neighbors, fili conspiracy, realists. The one of

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Speaker 4: the reasons that we've been keeping an even closer eye

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Speaker 4: on public health concerns like outbreaks of measles or infestations

522
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Speaker 4: things of that nature is due to the massive cartoonish

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Speaker 4: cutting of science funding and cutting of funding to things

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Speaker 4: like the CDC and the other institutions that normally would

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Speaker 4: handle this. We're also talking off air rewatching the digital Ghostbusters.

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Speaker 4: Uh do you guys remember that the bad boogieyman in

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Speaker 4: Ghostbusters one? Uh, the secondary antagonist is the EPA.

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Speaker 3: Is the regularly mean guy. Yeah, right, is he's in

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Speaker 3: charge shutting down their ghost container unit. That's right, that's

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Speaker 3: I totally forgot that the EPA with the big bad

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Speaker 3: that's pretty funny. Ben, this is code, yeah, to shut

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Speaker 3: it down.

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Speaker 4: But just trying to find some levity here. But I

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Speaker 4: think that to the point here that we're discussing, it's frightening.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 4: It's frightening that we're now in a situation in twenty

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Speaker 4: twenty six where the New World screw worm could finally

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Speaker 4: succeed in its multi generational scheme to infest the United States,

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Speaker 4: and we're literally asleep at the switch. We got rid

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Speaker 4: of the people who could fight it. It's like, oh,

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Speaker 4: World War two, scubby, let's get rid of the air Force.

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Speaker 3: Not great. We're gonna pivot, as we talked about earlier,

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Speaker 3: to another science story that is a little more whimsical.

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Speaker 3: Let's just say, unless you're an unsuspecting participant in this

545
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Speaker 3: particular kind of whimsy. The BBC headline from Rachel Newer

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Speaker 3: says this they saw them on their dishes when eating

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Speaker 3: the mushroom, making people hallucinate dozens of tiny humans. This

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Speaker 3: is in China, and I can't help but get some

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Speaker 3: similarities with the incredible adult swim show Common Side Effects,

550
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Speaker 3: which is about this cure all mushroom that is discovered

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Speaker 3: in the Amazon by the main protagonist of the show,

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Speaker 3: whose name is Escaping Me. But he's like a mycologist

553
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 3: studies mushrooms and it causes people to hallucinate these little, tiny,

554
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:09,600
Speaker 3: psychedelic kind of machine elve type creatures little humans. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I couldn't help but think about that. Let's go to

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Speaker 3: the piece here from the BBC. And then there's another

557
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 3: great piece on Vice that I'll pull from as well.

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Speaker 3: Only recently described by science, the mysterious mushrooms are found

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Speaker 3: in different parts of the world, but they give people

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00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:29,719
Speaker 3: the same exact vision. That's so crazy wild to me.

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00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:34,120
Speaker 3: It points to something there, It points to a barrier,

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00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:38,680
Speaker 3: some sort of cosmic barrier being breached. And maybe I'm

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00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:42,920
Speaker 3: being hyperbolic there, but that commonality is so fascinating, and

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Speaker 3: it's the kind of when I talked about machine elves.

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Speaker 3: It's the kind of stuff that people report from DMT trips,

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Speaker 3: seeing these little creatures that are like, you know, manipulating

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00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:56,160
Speaker 3: the fabric of time space. Going back to the BBC,

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Speaker 3: every year, doctor's at a hospital in the Yunnan province

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Speaker 3: of China and embrace themselves for an influx of people

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00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 3: with an unusual complaint. It's been going on for a minute.

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00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:08,400
Speaker 3: The patients come with a strikingly odd symptom, visions of

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Speaker 3: pint sized elf like figures marching underdoors, crawling up walls,

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Speaker 3: and clinging to furniture. The hospital treats hundreds of these

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00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:22,799
Speaker 3: cases every year. All share a common culprit. Lan Moa

575
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:27,879
Speaker 3: asiatica asiatica a type of mushroom that forms symbiotic relationships

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Speaker 3: with pine trees in nearby forests, and is a locally

577
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:36,799
Speaker 3: popular food known for its savory umami packed flavor. It's

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Speaker 3: sold in markets and often appears on restaurant menus and

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Speaker 3: is served at home during foraging season, which is between

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Speaker 3: June and August. However, it is the kind of thing

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Speaker 3: much like the fugufish, you know that you have to

582
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Speaker 3: prepare very specifically in order not to ingest the toxin

583
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Speaker 3: that it contains with it. Right, that I hadn't read,

584
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:04,200
Speaker 3: but I don't doubt that that's true. Ben. At a

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00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 3: mushroom hot pot restaurant there, the server set a timer

586
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 3: for fifteen minutes and warned ust don't eat it until

587
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:13,560
Speaker 3: the timer goes off, or you might see little people.

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00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 3: That's from a doctoral candidate in biology at the University

589
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:19,759
Speaker 3: of Utah and the Natural History Museum of Utah named

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00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:26,000
Speaker 3: Colin Domnauer, who is studying this particular fungus. He says,

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Speaker 3: it seems like a very common knowledge in the culture there.

592
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:32,400
Speaker 3: There were many accounts about the existence of the psychedelic

593
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:34,680
Speaker 3: mushroom and many people who looked for it, but they

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Speaker 3: never found the species. This is from a mycologist named

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Speaker 3: Jiuliana Furkey, the founder and executive director of the Fungi Foundation,

596
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 3: which is a nonprofit dedicated to discovering new species and

597
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 3: different uses and conserving fung Guy, this is very much

598
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 3: like the character I was describing in Common side Effects.

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00:36:56,640 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 3: I can't recommend that enough. Yeah, I don't know, guys,

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Speaker 3: I had not heard about this. Apparently it was maybe

601
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:06,799
Speaker 3: common knowledge in the region, but has only recently kind

602
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:09,359
Speaker 3: of made its way over here. I mean, it's been

603
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:12,360
Speaker 3: described as far back as nineteen ninety one in a

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00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 3: paper where two researchers from a Chinese Academy of Science

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00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:20,320
Speaker 3: described cases of people specifically in that region, the Unn province,

606
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Speaker 3: who'd eating a certain mushroom and experience what they referred

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Speaker 3: to as Liliputian hallucinations, which is all which is in

608
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 3: fact it's a psychiatric term. Yeah, I didn't know that.

609
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:34,759
Speaker 3: Beened fantastic the perception of tiny human animal or fantasy figures,

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00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 3: so named, of course after the little creatures, the little

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Speaker 3: people from Gulliver's Travels who inhabit lily Put Islands.

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Speaker 4: You know how you get amber alerts in some parts

613
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Speaker 4: of the US if there's like a missing child or

614
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Speaker 4: someone gets kidnapped. This part of China apparently has something

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00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 4: like an amber alert for these mushrooms. They have mushroom

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Speaker 4: alerts during mushroom season. They send messages to locals on

617
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 4: their on their cell phone say watch out, don't get

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Speaker 4: poisoned by this mushroom. I think Fugu is a great

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Speaker 4: comparison you've made there. And I was also astonished man

620
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Speaker 4: to learn that lil of pudding hallucinations are indeed a genre.

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Speaker 4: It also calls to mind the the what is it?

622
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Speaker 4: The commonality of the type of hallucination upon consumption of

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Speaker 4: these mushrooms definitely calls to mind the work of Graham Hancock.

624
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Speaker 4: I loved when we were doing Graham Hancock.

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Speaker 3: He's the omnivorous dilemma.

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Speaker 4: He's the guy who, among many other things, and not

627
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 4: everybody agrees with him. Definitely not mainstream science, but he's

628
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Speaker 4: one of the guys. Palin on the Red tell Us

629
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Speaker 4: about Graham, So Michael Paulin is Omnivore's dilemma. Graham Hancock

630
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Speaker 4: wrote a bunch of books as well. He talks a

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Speaker 4: lot about machine ls and the commonality of certain hallucinations

632
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:59,279
Speaker 4: like d MT or I think EBA gain as well.

633
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:03,880
Speaker 4: But he's the guy who said, maybe our junk DNA

634
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:09,440
Speaker 4: contains ancient messages from aliens that get activated upon consumption

635
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:14,720
Speaker 4: of d MT or ingestion of mushrooms like these psychedelics.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, it definitely makes me think of some sort

637
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 3: of breach of whether it be a cosmic something or

638
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:25,319
Speaker 3: something within ourselves. And I know I'm sounding a little

639
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:27,319
Speaker 3: wooo about that, and I don't get woo about much,

640
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:32,280
Speaker 3: but sometimes psychedelic experiences cause me to go there, especially

641
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 3: with mushrooms, as we know, they're the closest thing to frickin'

642
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:37,440
Speaker 3: aliens that we know about in the way they communicate

643
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 3: with one another. Apparently this also reminds me of the

644
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Speaker 3: work of Terrence McKenna. But Matt, I could see that

645
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 3: the I can see the machine elves working in your

646
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:45,879
Speaker 3: mind right now.

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Speaker 2: We're no, I want to know what are these things wearing? Well,

648
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Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like, what do they look like?

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00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:57,319
Speaker 2: Do they have human heads and faces? Do they have

650
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Speaker 2: hands and fingers? Or do they have pants?

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Speaker 4: It seems like, yeah, it seems like they're humanoid like

652
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Speaker 4: human shape, but I haven't seen specifics that say like

653
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 4: they're known for their nazzy turtlenecks and their leather breakers.

654
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Speaker 2: I've been looking. I've been looking everywhere for you know,

655
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:21,960
Speaker 2: a more full description, right, just somebody who's giving you

656
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:26,040
Speaker 2: exactly what visually you are seeing when let's say on

657
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:31,239
Speaker 2: your plate and the artists rendering, well, yeah, what is

658
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 2: the perspective like if you move your head over your plate,

659
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Speaker 2: does the perspective of that little humanoid change as though

660
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Speaker 2: it's there in real time?

661
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:42,280
Speaker 3: Out?

662
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:45,960
Speaker 2: Oh god, I can't, man, my brain can't handle it.

663
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:50,080
Speaker 3: Legal to consume this, by the way, yeah, right exactly.

664
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Speaker 2: Oh okay, Well that does not change the way.

665
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 3: Your brain will react, Matt, because it's a psychedelic It

666
00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:00,759
Speaker 3: might because consuming an illegal thing.

667
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:03,399
Speaker 4: If that triggers some fear mechanisms in you, they can

668
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:07,239
Speaker 4: share give you setting. So maybe this helps make it

669
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 4: feel a little bit more likely to be a good trip.

670
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:14,440
Speaker 3: Weirdly, we have evidence of something very similar to this

671
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:18,359
Speaker 3: as far back as the nineteen sixties in Papua New

672
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 3: Guinea and in some other parts of that region. But

673
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:25,520
Speaker 3: it is not psilocybin, lest you were wondering, and the

674
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:28,720
Speaker 3: hallucinations can take twelve to twenty four hours to begin

675
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:31,839
Speaker 3: and can last for a very long time. So it's

676
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:34,080
Speaker 3: also not DMT because as we know, DMC hits you

677
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:36,400
Speaker 3: instantly and does not last very long at all, So

678
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:41,400
Speaker 3: don't have what are those these edibles? Eight moments? No, No,

679
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:45,240
Speaker 3: you can always take more, you can take it less. Yeah,

680
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:47,239
Speaker 3: it says the trip can last so long that it's

681
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:50,920
Speaker 3: impractical as a recreational drug, which is why no culture

682
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:53,880
Speaker 3: seems to use the mushroom intentionally as a psychedelic.

683
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:58,480
Speaker 2: Man, I'm trying to imagine doing research or something while

684
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 2: you've got a little little humanidid's running across the monitor,

685
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:01,880
Speaker 2: you know.

686
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 3: Check out the work of Terrence McKenna, the God God

687
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:08,359
Speaker 3: Molecule as I think a book of his, where he

688
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 3: spends a lot of time in the Amazon and in

689
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:16,319
Speaker 3: deep jungle climates or trains experimenting with d m T

690
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:20,919
Speaker 3: and these like frogs that produce that substance from their skin,

691
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 3: and he approaches it very scientifically. But he's also trip

692
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:27,440
Speaker 3: and balls a lot. So it's a fascinating intersection between

693
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:28,839
Speaker 3: science and spiritualists.

694
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:34,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, and also check out David J. Brown, author of

695
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:39,520
Speaker 4: the Illustrated Field Guide to d MT Entities. Can't say

696
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:43,839
Speaker 4: I can't say enough about how interesting Graham Hancock is.

697
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:49,319
Speaker 4: We can tell you though, that researching under the influence

698
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:53,360
Speaker 4: of eddie substance can affect the nature of your research,

699
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:57,719
Speaker 4: like coffee right or like adderall for instance, And you know,

700
00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:01,920
Speaker 4: and diplomatically put research on psychedelics will lead you to

701
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:05,880
Speaker 4: some very interesting research. The problem is going to be

702
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:10,480
Speaker 4: focus because you may come back down to earth in

703
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:14,920
Speaker 4: several hours and realize that you have written an amazing

704
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:18,759
Speaker 4: twenty page paper that is absolutely not about the thing

705
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:20,360
Speaker 4: you were supposed to be writing about.

706
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Speaker 3: Totally. Yeah, if anyone's ever tried to take psychedelics and

707
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:29,640
Speaker 3: like do something creative results very widely. You know, certain

708
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:32,880
Speaker 3: individuals like Jimi Hendrix's and Grateful Deaths of the World

709
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:36,080
Speaker 3: were super good at that and very interested and the effects.

710
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:37,880
Speaker 3: But then there are others that it is just going

711
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:39,760
Speaker 3: to cause them to flail.

712
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:43,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, and many And then we also have to ask ourselves,

713
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:48,279
Speaker 4: without waxing philosophical about the nature of creativity in the

714
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:51,440
Speaker 4: way of the artists. We have to ask ourselves those

715
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:56,440
Speaker 4: people seem like they excelled on psychedelics because that's the case,

716
00:43:56,760 --> 00:44:00,880
Speaker 4: or where we just see what they did despite intoxication.

717
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:03,200
Speaker 3: You know, that's a good point. The chicken or the

718
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 3: egg kind of thing.

719
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Speaker 4: Yeah, like Manary Keenan from Tool, said, you could do

720
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 4: the drugs once, but the rest of it is trying

721
00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:09,600
Speaker 4: to get to that state without.

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Speaker 2: Them, because I just guessed it on that more like

723
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Speaker 2: Ancient Aliens show, and we had a whole discussion about

724
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:20,320
Speaker 2: genius because there was an apparently an Ancient Aliens episode

725
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:23,120
Speaker 2: in season nine about genius and how it might be

726
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:29,200
Speaker 2: a divine inspiration, only not divinity, aliens and the concept

727
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:32,720
Speaker 2: of creativity and where does that come from? Right, because

728
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:35,560
Speaker 2: often often what people are looking for when you're going

729
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:39,120
Speaker 2: to use hallucinogens or another drug to you know, do

730
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 2: something creative, it is to get that creative spark, right,

731
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Speaker 2: that thing that might come from outside of us somehow,

732
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:48,320
Speaker 2: or at least happen internally. But we don't really understand

733
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:51,319
Speaker 2: the mechanisms of all of that signals going across the

734
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Speaker 2: corpus colosum. What do you think, guys, maybe aliens?

735
00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:58,800
Speaker 3: Well, I said, I think mushrooms are aliens. I truly

736
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:01,799
Speaker 3: believe that's something to that effect, and that the way

737
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:04,680
Speaker 3: they unlock some of that stuff within us or introduce

738
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:08,840
Speaker 3: it from you know, without it is fascinating to me.

739
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:11,279
Speaker 3: And I don't know how it works, but it's it's

740
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:11,960
Speaker 3: wild stuff.

741
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 2: Do we start from that stuff?

742
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 3: I don't know. There you go, yeah, well that's that's

743
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:19,640
Speaker 3: sort of one of the uh the god molecule is

744
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 3: a sort of an argument that makes that it's some

745
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:27,160
Speaker 3: sort of like primordial substance. That's all I got for today, y'all.

746
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Speaker 3: When do we take a quick break and hear a

747
00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:31,279
Speaker 3: word from our sponsor, and then we'll return with our

748
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Speaker 3: last strange news segment.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back. It's eighty five seconds to midnight. Don't worry

750
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Speaker 2: about that. It's just the thing the bulletin of the

751
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:46,680
Speaker 2: atomic scientists like to do. They mean, well, yeah, why

752
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Speaker 2: is it.

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00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:51,840
Speaker 4: Never like mid afternoon? Guys? Start the bar lower?

754
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 3: But I guess that.

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Speaker 4: I guess honestly if it was one am, it would

756
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Speaker 4: be a pre nuclear civilization, which would be in worldwick.

757
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:05,480
Speaker 3: Whatever goes happened, all right, never never buy.

758
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Speaker 2: So it's all good. Speaking of eighty five seconds to midnight,

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Speaker 2: let's jump to the Guardian and here's something that Patrick

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00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:16,280
Speaker 2: Wintour wrote on Wednesday, January twenty eighth. Threat of US

761
00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 2: Iran war escalates as the US President Warren's time is

762
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:24,040
Speaker 2: running out for a deal I'm gonna read verbatim from

763
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Speaker 2: a little bit of this, you guys. It's kind of boring,

764
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:29,960
Speaker 2: but it is kind of important. Here we go, the

765
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:32,959
Speaker 2: threat of a US Iranian war maybe looming closer after

766
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:35,320
Speaker 2: the US President Warren time was running out for Tehran

767
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:38,240
Speaker 2: and said a massive US armada was moving quickly towards

768
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Speaker 2: the country quote with a great power, enthusiasm, and purpose unquote.

769
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Speaker 2: Some we'll see the sudden ramping up of the threat

770
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:48,239
Speaker 2: as a useful piece of distraction at a time when

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00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:51,719
Speaker 2: the US government is under domestic political pressure over the

772
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 2: violence administered by Homeland security officers in Minnesota. As we

773
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Speaker 2: have talked about, yes, Iran's foreign minister said he was

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00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 2: not prepared to negotiate under threats, but he was willing

775
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:06,480
Speaker 2: to talk without preconditions, terms that he had relayed to

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00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:12,480
Speaker 2: numerous intermediaries to US Special Envoy Steve Whitcoff, Iran has

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00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:16,400
Speaker 2: reportedly been using its diplomatic channels to speak with Saudi Arabia, Qatar,

778
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:20,200
Speaker 2: and Egypt, and all three of these states were very

779
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:23,520
Speaker 2: critical in persuading the US President to hold back from

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Speaker 2: mounting an attack three weeks ago. You know, as of

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00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:33,280
Speaker 2: the writing on January twenty eighth. Sorry, I'm just holding

782
00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:35,920
Speaker 2: back some emotions right now, some feelings, getting some deep

783
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:39,520
Speaker 2: feelings about this. There's currently a deep suspicion in Tehran

784
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Speaker 2: about talking to the US since the two sides were

785
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:44,080
Speaker 2: in the middle of talks last June when Israel was

786
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Speaker 2: given clearance by the US to mount an attack on

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Speaker 2: Iran designed to decapitate its leadership and destroy its civil

788
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:56,000
Speaker 2: nuclear sites. You'll remember the Big kerfuffle, the Big to

789
00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:59,799
Speaker 2: do that was made about the bunker Busters and how

790
00:47:59,840 --> 00:48:04,200
Speaker 2: they allegedly destroyed a bunch of infrastructure on Iran's largest

791
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:07,200
Speaker 2: enrichment site, although perhaps they didn't do any damage at all.

792
00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:08,520
Speaker 2: We don't know. Well.

793
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:13,520
Speaker 4: Also, we'll also recall, of course, the historic role the

794
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:17,840
Speaker 4: United States and the United Kingdom have played in sowing

795
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:23,320
Speaker 4: chaos in Iran throughout history, throughout recent history. And then

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00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:27,760
Speaker 4: we can't forget the nuclear deal that was made under

797
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:32,400
Speaker 4: one administration and seemed to propose an imperfect path forward

798
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:36,799
Speaker 4: to lowering the temperature in the region, only for the

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00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:41,719
Speaker 4: US to renege on the deal and instantly erase whatever

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00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:47,719
Speaker 4: trace of goodwill had somehow survived in their relationship. This

801
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:51,560
Speaker 4: is again I keep saying this. It's the most diplomatic

802
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:55,280
Speaker 4: way I can put it. This is non ideal finger.

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00:48:55,080 --> 00:49:01,800
Speaker 2: Quotes fully agreed, ben non ideal. Jumping back here. Almost

804
00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:06,080
Speaker 2: all the Gulf states currently fearful of Iranian reprisals with

805
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:09,480
Speaker 2: things like, you know, large missiles, not necessarily nukes, but

806
00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:14,239
Speaker 2: large scary missiles and other types other forms of asymmetrical warfare.

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00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:17,320
Speaker 2: They've said that they're not willing to allow the US

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00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:20,400
Speaker 2: to use their airspace or bases to mount any attack

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00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:24,919
Speaker 2: on Iran. However, there is one base. There is one

810
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:29,000
Speaker 2: base that is being used and will be used and

811
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Speaker 2: has been used by the United States to mount attacks,

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00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:35,440
Speaker 2: and it's also been the target of Iran's attacks. Just

813
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:38,440
Speaker 2: finish it off right here. Iranian officials said, quote, we

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Speaker 2: will target the same base and the same point from

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Speaker 2: which air operations against US are launched, and we will

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Speaker 2: not attack other countries because we do not consider them

817
00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:50,759
Speaker 2: to be enemy countries. We will increase our level of

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00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:53,200
Speaker 2: defense readiness against the US military build up to the

819
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:57,440
Speaker 2: highest level. If the Americans want negotiations without predetermined outcomes,

820
00:49:57,480 --> 00:50:03,399
Speaker 2: Iran will accept it. So jumping in a weird we're

821
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Speaker 2: doing a time warp thing here. When you're hearing this,

822
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Speaker 2: what day did we say it is?

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Speaker 3: This will be Monday, February second.

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Speaker 2: Okay, well, if we jump through time when you're hearing this,

825
00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:22,960
Speaker 2: I am currently in Doha, in Qatar. The bass that

826
00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:25,919
Speaker 2: is mentioned there within this story is about an hour

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Speaker 2: drive from the exact convention center where I will be,

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Speaker 2: which is making me not terrified, guys, that's not the

829
00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:35,800
Speaker 2: right word for it.

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Speaker 3: Weary.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's an awareness of several different things that we're

832
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:45,120
Speaker 2: about to get into. But the first one is we

833
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:48,160
Speaker 2: know where attacks will happen, if they happen, if there

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Speaker 2: is a further escalation of this situation within the time

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Speaker 2: between when I'm saying these words and when you are

836
00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:58,880
Speaker 2: hearing them, which just makes me a little bit, I

837
00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:00,640
Speaker 2: don't know, weird. I feel weird about it.

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00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:01,319
Speaker 3: Guys.

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Speaker 2: Do we want to break that down really quickly? Why

840
00:51:04,560 --> 00:51:07,200
Speaker 2: I might be in Qatar? Can I? Can I bring

841
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:10,239
Speaker 2: some stuff up really quickly just so everybody has an understanding.

842
00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:14,160
Speaker 2: Of course, you guys got an awesome opportunity to do

843
00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:18,920
Speaker 2: something last year. You know, we often we've been working

844
00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:21,680
Speaker 2: for this same kind of basic organization for a long

845
00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:24,479
Speaker 2: time that has had many owners over the years, and

846
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:27,880
Speaker 2: one of those, one of those groups asks us to

847
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:30,520
Speaker 2: go places sometimes, and you guys got to go to Qatar.

848
00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:32,919
Speaker 2: Why why were you sent there?

849
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Speaker 3: There's a big tech conference called what is it called

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00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:43,000
Speaker 3: Web Summit Quitar international type event, and we were Ben

851
00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:44,920
Speaker 3: and I were lucky enough to join some of our

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00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:49,200
Speaker 3: other podcast colleagues and you know execs and folks that

853
00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:53,839
Speaker 3: work in various parts of our podcast network and run

854
00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:57,799
Speaker 3: some sessions, some kind of seminar type sessions with Middle

855
00:51:57,800 --> 00:52:01,160
Speaker 3: Eastern content creators where podcasting isn't as big as it

856
00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:02,880
Speaker 3: is over here. It's a little bit more of a

857
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:08,000
Speaker 3: burgeoning kind of medium. And it was fascinating to be there,

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00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:10,279
Speaker 3: and it was really great to meet a lot of

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00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:13,359
Speaker 3: those folks, and it was an incredible experience and I'm

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00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:16,160
Speaker 3: super super stoked that you get to have it this year. Matt.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm very excited to do it too, and I

862
00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:20,839
Speaker 2: only know about it because you guys got to do it.

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00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:24,640
Speaker 2: And I'm going there with Jordan Runtalg and a Mere

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00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:28,080
Speaker 2: Questlove Quest Love is going to be there too, So

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Speaker 2: we're we're going there. We are there now as you

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Speaker 2: hear this, and I don't know what if this last

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Speaker 2: thing I record with you guys. Yeah, it's gonna be fine, man,

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Speaker 2: I'm just thinking about that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Anyway, that's the main story I wanted to talk about today, guys,

871
00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:51,080
Speaker 2: because it does feel as though the US and Iran

872
00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:53,680
Speaker 2: are finally going to get into some kind of thing,

873
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Speaker 2: because we've seen the current administration in the United States

874
00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:01,720
Speaker 2: uses this kind of major action to distract from things

875
00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:05,239
Speaker 2: like the Epstein files and US citizens being murdered by

876
00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:09,640
Speaker 2: federal agents in Minnesota. So we'll see.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, there fell things in the wind, like the USS

878
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Speaker 4: Abraham Lincoln Carrier Group is a key asset.

879
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Speaker 3: In the region.

880
00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:26,280
Speaker 4: We know that this administration leans more on the sticks

881
00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:28,960
Speaker 4: rather than the carrots of diplomacy.

882
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:33,560
Speaker 3: And in some personal news.

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Speaker 4: I've been trying to keep things on a positive note,

884
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Speaker 4: you guys, wish is luck. But in personal news, some

885
00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:46,480
Speaker 4: old friends in Iran who had gone dark for a

886
00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:52,919
Speaker 4: long time reached out and it's good news because they

887
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Speaker 4: are alive, Okay, and a couple of these folks I

888
00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:59,719
Speaker 4: thought they were dead. But it is also pretty staggering

889
00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:03,560
Speaker 4: to see or to hear from people who are not

890
00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:07,200
Speaker 4: getting bubbled by Western media, who are on the ground

891
00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:12,799
Speaker 4: talking to us directly and just to provide you. So

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Speaker 4: first off, Matt, Future Matt, I hope you're having a

893
00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:21,000
Speaker 4: great time in Doha and Cutter and I hope I

894
00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:23,439
Speaker 4: know things things are gonna be okay man.

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Speaker 3: That's for future Matt.

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Speaker 4: So we want to recommend us some places to check out.

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Speaker 4: If you're on Instagram, go to pages like Iran International English.

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00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:39,799
Speaker 4: You can also check out pa Lavi Comms. That's p

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Speaker 4: A h l a v I CEO m ms. That

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00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:47,680
Speaker 4: is the profile of the Crown Prince just for background

901
00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:51,160
Speaker 4: for other news. That's little more in the style of

902
00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:56,600
Speaker 4: our pal Jake's outfit popular front check out from long

903
00:54:56,840 --> 00:55:02,799
Speaker 4: Underscore Iran. Those are those are resources that will help.

904
00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:04,799
Speaker 4: Those are some of the things that will help you

905
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:09,560
Speaker 4: get past sort of the info war of Western propaganda

906
00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:13,680
Speaker 4: as well as other countries propaganda and probably you know,

907
00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:15,160
Speaker 4: Iranian propaganda.

908
00:55:15,320 --> 00:55:17,040
Speaker 3: So our thoughts are.

909
00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:22,920
Speaker 4: With you, everybody involved, and hopefully we can, hopefully we

910
00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:27,760
Speaker 4: will see a de escalation. Hopefully the negotiations will work.

911
00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:31,160
Speaker 4: It's it's gonna be. It's dicey, though there's no other

912
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:31,839
Speaker 4: way to say it.

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Speaker 2: Frothy, it's very dicey, did you guys sign up for

914
00:55:35,120 --> 00:55:37,920
Speaker 2: the STEP program and some of the State Department stuff

915
00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:41,960
Speaker 2: to like get alerts and they are alerted if something happens.

916
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, if you're if the circumstances allow you

917
00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:50,120
Speaker 4: to sign up for State Department monitoring. I genuine I

918
00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:53,080
Speaker 4: generally say it's a very good idea no matter where

919
00:55:53,080 --> 00:55:53,439
Speaker 4: you're going.

920
00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:57,680
Speaker 2: Okay, that's a good thing just to remember when you're

921
00:55:57,680 --> 00:56:01,560
Speaker 2: traveling in different places, especially now as an American.

922
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Speaker 4: Did I tell you the old the old trick we

923
00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:08,960
Speaker 4: used to do in uh, Central Central America, which seems

924
00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:11,520
Speaker 4: like such a much more innocent time.

925
00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:14,880
Speaker 3: That's not the case, but it's nostalgia, right. Uh.

926
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Speaker 4: The trick was to sw a Canadian patch of a

927
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Speaker 4: Canadian flag onto your backpack. And it genuinely worked because

928
00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:27,319
Speaker 4: people who were anti us would be way less likely

929
00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:29,640
Speaker 4: to mess with you because they'd be like, Oh, he's

930
00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:31,719
Speaker 4: just you know, he's from Vancouver.

931
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Speaker 3: I'm sure he's cool. Nice. Yeah. Uh.

932
00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:38,080
Speaker 2: That base, by the way, is the Alu Did Air

933
00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:42,880
Speaker 2: Base uh in Katar. So there we go, which is

934
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Speaker 2: being evacuated, by the way, isn't that fun some personnel?

935
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Speaker 3: Yeah? Cool? Cool, cool, cool cool, cool cool.

936
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Speaker 2: Do we have anything else we want to talk about

937
00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:54,080
Speaker 2: before we exit today?

938
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Speaker 4: Yes, I've got some stuff, but as I said at

939
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Speaker 4: the first act of our weekly Strange New segment, we're

940
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Speaker 4: not going to be able to get to it.

941
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Speaker 3: There was this great there is.

942
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Speaker 4: A great conspiracy at play regarding the Maduro raid, or

943
00:57:11,080 --> 00:57:14,960
Speaker 4: a great series of conspiracies where in the current US

944
00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:21,200
Speaker 4: president referenced a secret weapon used to disable Venezuelan equipment

945
00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:26,120
Speaker 4: used a very fun doctor Sussian word. We're going to

946
00:57:26,160 --> 00:57:30,000
Speaker 4: have to talk about that one in the future. We've

947
00:57:30,040 --> 00:57:32,760
Speaker 4: got one other story we're going to drop at the

948
00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:35,920
Speaker 4: very very end here, so listen all the way to

949
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Speaker 4: the end. But for now, we'd love to hear your thoughts.

950
00:57:39,560 --> 00:57:43,880
Speaker 4: You can find us online along with all those other

951
00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:47,720
Speaker 4: pages that we've mentioned as resources for information. You can

952
00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:49,880
Speaker 4: call us on the phone, and you can always send

953
00:57:49,960 --> 00:57:50,520
Speaker 4: us an email.

954
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Speaker 3: That's right. You can find us on the social media

955
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956
00:57:57,960 --> 00:58:01,840
Speaker 3: Stuff Show. You can also give us a call.

957
00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:06,800
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961
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Speaker 2: to send us an email, you can do that too.

962
00:58:13,240 --> 00:58:16,480
Speaker 4: We are the entities the read each piece of correspondence

963
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Speaker 4: we receive before we continue this, folks, is the congratulations

964
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Speaker 4: were listening to the end of our weekly Strange news segment?

965
00:58:26,280 --> 00:58:29,280
Speaker 4: What are the stories we didn't get to? The Texas

966
00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:34,760
Speaker 4: citate is replacing official money, you know, the US currency

967
00:58:34,840 --> 00:58:37,320
Speaker 4: the people who live in the United States use all

968
00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:41,240
Speaker 4: the time they're creating. They want to create an alternative

969
00:58:41,280 --> 00:58:46,040
Speaker 4: currency for Texas, a streamlined digital currency directly linked to

970
00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:49,120
Speaker 4: gold and silver as legal tender.

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Speaker 3: Oh sick, yeah, did see that? And I'm not gonna

972
00:58:53,000 --> 00:58:55,280
Speaker 3: lie ben another. The price of gold is that I

973
00:58:55,320 --> 00:58:58,440
Speaker 3: think up to five thousand dollars an ounce, And with

974
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Speaker 3: all the craziness going on in the markets, it did

975
00:59:01,600 --> 00:59:05,240
Speaker 3: occur to me that maybe cold is the better investment.

976
00:59:05,600 --> 00:59:07,560
Speaker 3: But that also sounds like crazy talk. I don't know,

977
00:59:07,600 --> 00:59:08,760
Speaker 3: and you don't want to buy it when I said

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Speaker 3: it's peak.

979
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Speaker 4: So we've got to do a ridiculous history about the

980
00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:17,040
Speaker 4: old Wild West days of free banking, back when anybody could.

981
00:59:16,920 --> 00:59:20,000
Speaker 3: Just set up a bank, right, you can flip a cooid.

982
00:59:20,160 --> 00:59:22,280
Speaker 3: Am I going to be the dentist in town, the

983
00:59:22,320 --> 00:59:24,080
Speaker 3: salute owner, or the banker.

984
00:59:24,760 --> 00:59:30,160
Speaker 4: Several other states, including Louisiana and Oklahoma, have filed similar legislation.

985
00:59:30,440 --> 00:59:34,160
Speaker 3: We are bulkanizing the currency. What a time to be alive.

986
00:59:34,560 --> 00:59:37,080
Speaker 3: Let's hang out. Hit us up for a random fact.

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