1 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:06,800 Speaker 1: Hey, this is Samantha in the Standing and welcome to stuff. 2 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 1: Mom never told you a production of I Heart Radios? 3 00:00:09,080 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 1: How stuff works? An? Yes, you know what time? It is? Three? Oh, 4 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:28,640 Speaker 1: it's time for another feminist movie Friday from and It's 5 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:33,519 Speaker 1: Mulan Editions. Is Mulan Edition, which is one of my 6 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 1: favorite Disney movies, especially when we talk about animated like 7 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:42,160 Speaker 1: the classic cartoons. I love it. UM semi appropriate because 8 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:45,879 Speaker 1: it's lunar New Year right now and as um. I 9 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 1: actually when I was in China, I was staying in Wuhan, China, 10 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 1: which is now the center of a lot of concern 11 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 1: about the coronavirus UM. But I remember when I was 12 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 1: there and I got to experienced lunar New Year and 13 00:00:57,080 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 1: it was just this amazing, amazing thing. Um. And we 14 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 1: wanted to talk about this movie for a while because 15 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 1: it does have a lot of layers to it when 16 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:11,760 Speaker 1: it comes to gender performance and just gender stereotypes in general. 17 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 1: Speaking of I'll Make a Man out of You, one 18 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 1: of the songs from that movie is a very popular 19 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 1: song at our karaoke nights, usually paired with Shania Twains 20 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 1: man I Feel like a woman. We like to do 21 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:28,039 Speaker 1: a double feature of those two songs. Okay, I've never 22 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:30,760 Speaker 1: realized that it came as a double feature. I definitely 23 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 1: know when that song from that comes up, it brings 24 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:40,400 Speaker 1: down most of our mill counterparts will stand up everyone 25 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:44,400 Speaker 1: to start singing the song. There's this jet like a 26 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:46,560 Speaker 1: fist gesture and you kind of get like on your 27 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 1: knees and you do it. I mean, it's excellent. It's surprising, 28 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 1: surprising as a word for it. I remember seeing this 29 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 1: maybe for the first time. I saw it at a 30 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:03,279 Speaker 1: theater and Dothan alab am A and just immediately falling 31 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 1: in love with it and trying to see it again 32 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:08,080 Speaker 1: and again again, right, and I remember watching it and 33 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:11,680 Speaker 1: it is I don't love animated movies, so for me, 34 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:14,640 Speaker 1: this is probably one of my top two three that 35 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 1: I actually will watch and really do enjoy. I think 36 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 1: for me, having representation even though I'm not Chinese, but 37 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:24,799 Speaker 1: seeing a woman that is of Asian persuasion and I'm 38 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:29,079 Speaker 1: so sorry um on screen was phenomenal. And not only 39 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 1: that she was not caricaturized in any way, neither were 40 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:37,640 Speaker 1: the men, so it wasn't an overly stereotypical statement of 41 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 1: Asian people of Chinese people of any of that culture, 42 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 1: and it was nice to see and it made me 43 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:47,520 Speaker 1: feel a little more included in the story, as well 44 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:51,239 Speaker 1: as the fact that she's a strong woman who is 45 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:54,360 Speaker 1: not necessarily trying to get the approval of any man 46 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:57,919 Speaker 1: or husband, but trying to defend her family, which I 47 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 1: I'm all about that. Yeah, And I think it's really 48 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 1: good as we go into this episode to just remember 49 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:08,080 Speaker 1: at the time when this came out, it was on 50 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 1: the heels of Beautying the Beast, Little Mermaids and Lion King, 51 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:19,960 Speaker 1: and so people hadn't really seen Disney had this kind 52 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 1: of one set and Pocahontas was a little bit of 53 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:27,519 Speaker 1: an outlier as well. But until then, you had your princess, 54 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 1: and she looked a certain way and behaved a certain 55 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:34,080 Speaker 1: way and wanted ultimately to find a man. Right is 56 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 1: the disneyfication disneyfication of tails. Yeah. Yeah, And and as 57 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 1: we're gonna get into in a minute, we're really lucky 58 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 1: that we have worded that with me one. Um, but okay, 59 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 1: let's talk about what it is we're talking about. We 60 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 1: kind of chose this also because there is an upcoming 61 00:03:56,400 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 1: live action remake coming out March, which, yes, there has 62 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 1: already been some controversy around because the lead actress came 63 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 1: out against the protesters in Hong Kong. Right, Yes, so 64 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 1: again we're talking about the animated version, directed by Barry 65 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:17,599 Speaker 1: Cook and Tony Bancroft's starring ming Now when Eddie Murphy 66 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 1: and Beatty Wong if follows fall, Mulan sort of an 67 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:23,479 Speaker 1: outcast in her family community as she's trying to figure 68 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:26,839 Speaker 1: out her place and who she is. The sanctioned path 69 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:29,840 Speaker 1: is for her to bring honor quote unquote to her 70 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 1: family by marrying someone respectable. But when her elderly ill father, 71 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 1: the only man in the family, is conscripted as a 72 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:40,159 Speaker 1: soldier to fight against the invasion of the Huns, Mulan 73 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 1: cuts off her hair and ties it up. Of course, 74 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:45,840 Speaker 1: puts on her father's old armor and takes his place 75 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 1: by impersonating a man named Ping, and ultimately saves the day, 76 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 1: or the battle, or the war or China in general. Yes, 77 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:55,840 Speaker 1: she saves a lot of things, a lot of the things. 78 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 1: The movie was a critical and financial success and spawned 79 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 1: a direct to video se equal which neither of us 80 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:04,719 Speaker 1: have a video game, which neither of us had played 81 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 1: but I have played Kingdom Hearts, which she made an 82 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 1: appearance in, which is interesting because she's actually not a princess. 83 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 1: That's one of the things that's relatable about her. But 84 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:16,600 Speaker 1: she's a part of the Disney Princess franchise, which is 85 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 1: a part of this whole Kingdom Hearts game, which if 86 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 1: you haven't played, I'm not going to try to explain 87 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:24,720 Speaker 1: because it's very very very very very confusing. Yeah, apparently 88 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 1: she has a Deadpool came ye what's and of course 89 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 1: a sauce tie in with McDonald's that was later revived 90 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 1: thanks to Rick and Morty. And I never knew this. 91 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:41,479 Speaker 1: I yeah, I had to include this. The ads for 92 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 1: the sauce definitely skewed racist things like China might run, 93 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 1: don't walk, okay, which is why the sauce was discontinued 94 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:53,360 Speaker 1: to have a very short livespan Rick and Morty. Fans 95 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 1: brought it back after Rick mentioned it on the show 96 00:05:57,040 --> 00:05:58,839 Speaker 1: and it kind of became a running joke on the show. 97 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 1: Um and the Ends had this seen petition that got 98 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 1: it back. There was rioting. We've talked about it before 99 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 1: on this show. The whole thing UM a couple of 100 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 1: years ago, when I was at Dragon Con, it was 101 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 1: like the big costume at dra convers to dresses the 102 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:21,599 Speaker 1: Schwan sauce. Yeah, so there was that at the time. 103 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 1: Mulan was yeah, quite different than a lot of previous 104 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 1: Disney stuff, especially when it came to the main character. 105 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:29,040 Speaker 1: She wasn't waiting around for the day to be saved. 106 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 1: Her primary motivation was not romance. She fights and she 107 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:36,280 Speaker 1: uses her brain to outsmart the enemy. She was the 108 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 1: first Asian main character in these Disney movies. A lot 109 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 1: of the animators described her as quote, not a Barbie doll, 110 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:46,160 Speaker 1: making her more accessible. I still maintain she is quite thin, 111 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:49,720 Speaker 1: but y yeah, perhaps not a Barbie doll. I mean 112 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 1: she's definitely animated. Then you see them dressing her up. Yeah, 113 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:56,839 Speaker 1: they tie away and they say the line tiny waist, 114 00:06:57,560 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 1: it looks painful. It definitely does are painful. And This 115 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:06,360 Speaker 1: story is based on the song of Fa Mulan, which 116 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:09,159 Speaker 1: tells the story of Hua Mulan. It was combined with 117 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 1: a straight to video short called The China Doll, about 118 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 1: a miserable Chinese woman who is rescued from oppression by 119 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 1: a British prince. According to one of the story editors. 120 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 1: The first draft of this story was much more focused 121 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 1: on Mulan's drive to find a guy. Other versions had 122 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 1: her running away from a forced marriage or bad family situation. 123 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 1: The story they decided on was one motivated by love, 124 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 1: but love of father and country. Basically, the reason it 125 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 1: didn't turn out that way of like the romantic comedy 126 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 1: or is just trying to find a guy, is because 127 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 1: the higher ups at Disney weren't really paying attention to this. 128 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 1: They thought Hercules was coming out the same time, Hunchback 129 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 1: of Notre Dame was coming out the same time, so 130 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 1: they thought those were going to be their hits. Those 131 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 1: are the ones they were focusing on. So Mulan was 132 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 1: able to fly under the radar a little bit. The 133 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 1: team had a little bit more creative freedom than Goodness, 134 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 1: Thank goodness. So taking it to a historical context, fall Mulan. 135 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 1: The first transcript of Mulan was dated around sixth century 136 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 1: with the Ballad of Mulan, which was a folk song 137 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 1: originated during the north Way dynasty, and we see it 138 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 1: coming around again as a dramatized to act play called 139 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 1: the Female Milan or the heroine Mulan goes to war 140 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 1: in her father's place very aptly name in Fife and 141 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 1: then was incorporated in the seventeenth century historical novel written 142 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 1: by Chew Rain Hoh called Sweet Tang Romance, and there 143 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:38,080 Speaker 1: was also an opera based on Mulan. Whether this warrior 144 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:41,200 Speaker 1: was real seems debatable, as is a lot of these 145 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:44,679 Speaker 1: stories that we talked about, hard to kneel down historical 146 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:48,959 Speaker 1: context and historical sources, but a source of great inspiration nonetheless, 147 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 1: Hua Mulan Hua literally translated as flower and Mulan translated 148 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 1: as wood, orchid or magnolia would have existed around four 149 00:08:56,440 --> 00:09:00,120 Speaker 1: under twenty ninety during the north Way dynasty. There is 150 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 1: also a variation of the story that places Mulan in 151 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 1: the Tank dynasty around six. In this version, there is 152 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 1: another female warrior, Mulan's bonded sister or Lao Tonon Young, 153 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 1: the daughter of the king, that was also part of 154 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:16,960 Speaker 1: the legend. The two bonded over their knowledge of military 155 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:19,680 Speaker 1: and ability to fight, and she has a fairly interesting 156 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:22,440 Speaker 1: legend behind her as well. You're interested in reading more, yes, 157 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 1: And as with the final product of the ninety animation, 158 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:28,440 Speaker 1: most of the folklore centered around the idea of loyalty 159 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 1: and family, with a little splash of possible love on 160 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:34,679 Speaker 1: the side, of course, because you've got to have that. 161 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 1: All the variations do incorporate that Mulan felt she needed 162 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 1: to protect her elderly father by taking his place in battle. 163 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 1: But it's something to note that during that time it 164 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:46,080 Speaker 1: wasn't against the law for women to serve, and sometimes 165 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 1: would be drafted in specific circumstances, So the whole put 166 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 1: to death thing may not have happened, or may not 167 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 1: need to. But you know, we need that drama, right, 168 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 1: We need that drama. Also, there seems to be a 169 00:09:57,080 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 1: character missing from the animation, but may have been replaced 170 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 1: by the dog, which you said, this doesn't make sense. 171 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:05,439 Speaker 1: When we were watching it, we know him as quote 172 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 1: unquote little brother when she know he chases around the 173 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 1: phone to feed the chickens. But in some renditions there 174 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:14,560 Speaker 1: as a younger brother who was too young to serve, 175 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:16,320 Speaker 1: and it is part of the story of why she 176 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 1: also went into war four both of them, right, and 177 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 1: in these stories. There are several variations of the ending, 178 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:26,559 Speaker 1: but a couple include with her revealing that she is 179 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 1: female and walking to battle, and female clothing which inspires 180 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:31,679 Speaker 1: the rest of the soldiers to fight and win battles. 181 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 1: Very inspiring. Also, some include her being promoted to general 182 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 1: and being a part of the military for either ten 183 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 1: or twelve years. It does end up with her being 184 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 1: honored by the emperor, very moving scenes. A few of 185 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 1: the versions of the story lead her to asking simply 186 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:48,679 Speaker 1: for a horse and being able to return home, or 187 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:53,079 Speaker 1: asking for money for her family. As with most good folklore, 188 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:56,840 Speaker 1: several end with tragedy, whether she kills herself due to 189 00:10:56,960 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 1: being broken hearted because of her father's death before her 190 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:01,960 Speaker 1: return home him. Also a version in which she killed 191 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 1: herself rather than being a concubine, or because of being 192 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:08,960 Speaker 1: haunted by all the things she had seen in battle. 193 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:12,600 Speaker 1: No matter the ending, she did and does inspire. I mean, 194 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:15,959 Speaker 1: we're definitely getting another rendition of the tale, and apparently 195 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 1: big enough to get a crater on Venus named after her, 196 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 1: which is my that's my dream. I mean, I told 197 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:23,240 Speaker 1: you what you need to do. Just up as a man, 198 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 1: go into battle, die, end of story. Okay, cool, perfect, perfect, 199 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 1: So that's sort of the historical best way we could find. 200 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:37,720 Speaker 1: Historical Obviously a big debate about what exists what doesn't 201 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:42,840 Speaker 1: because it came from a poem, right, yeah, And I 202 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:45,839 Speaker 1: would love to hear from any listeners from China because 203 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:48,720 Speaker 1: from what I read, at least at one time, it 204 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 1: was the thing that was just recited and well known 205 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:54,679 Speaker 1: and it was a really important part of of kind 206 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 1: of a story you learned growing up, right, And according 207 00:11:56,960 --> 00:12:00,200 Speaker 1: to some of the context, there was a woman who 208 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 1: was a warrior during the Tame dynasty who they think 209 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 1: may have been a part of the legend as well, 210 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 1: and she technically existed from what I gather, it's hard 211 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:13,440 Speaker 1: to say who mysteries of history, but we tried our best, 212 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 1: and well, I was gonna say so to Disney, but 213 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 1: I don't know that they did, but they definitely took 214 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 1: this story to a successful maybe. So we're gonna get 215 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:23,559 Speaker 1: into that. But first we're going to get into a 216 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 1: quick break for a word from our sponsor, and we're back. 217 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 1: Thank you sponsors. So let's yeah, let's get into a 218 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 1: slightly more detailed plot. Right about this animation. If you 219 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 1: haven't watched it, you haven't, I would recommend you do 220 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:53,200 Speaker 1: so because it's fun. The movie follows Milan makes surprize 221 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:55,680 Speaker 1: when you're first to introduced to her, she's trying to 222 00:12:55,800 --> 00:13:04,200 Speaker 1: memorize the traits of being a good woman quote quiet, demure, graceful, polite, delicate, refined, poised, 223 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:09,960 Speaker 1: and punctual. Oh god, she's struggling. Oh lord, already. I 224 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 1: love how as she's saying it, she's like staffing her 225 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 1: face and typing and not typing and writing on her wrist. 226 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 1: So she is, yeah, she writes on her arm, and 227 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 1: she's slobbily eating rise adjustaposition to her words. She's late, 228 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 1: of course, and she has a creative system for doing 229 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:30,600 Speaker 1: her chores. Thanks little brother. Right, so you've already established 230 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 1: he's not your quote traditional lady. That she's creative and 231 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:38,080 Speaker 1: a bit clumsy, she's brave and smart, all those things 232 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 1: that could be an emo song. Yeah, that's true. That's true. 233 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:45,320 Speaker 1: It is a really good introduction to your character because 234 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 1: it immediately sets the tone for she's being told she 235 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 1: needs to be this, but she's clearly not that thing. 236 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 1: But she's trying to make it work. And when she 237 00:13:56,960 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 1: her father is praying to the ancestors to help move 238 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 1: on as she rushes into town to meet her mother 239 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:05,160 Speaker 1: and grandfather, and that also sets up she immediately is like, 240 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 1: I'm going to bring honor to us all, Dad like, 241 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:12,600 Speaker 1: I will do it, and he's like, oh please, and 242 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:16,880 Speaker 1: decides to play a lot longer. Yes. Yes, So Mulan 243 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 1: rushes into town to meet her mother and grandmother to 244 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 1: get ready to meet the matchmaker. So Mulan is then washed, 245 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:26,960 Speaker 1: her face is painted with makeup, her hair is pinned up, 246 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 1: which she tries to make her own by curling a 247 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:33,360 Speaker 1: little front piece. Um. And she's dressed in a in 248 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 1: a dress. Yeah, they tie the thing around um. And 249 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 1: as this is happening, we get this song, our first song, 250 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 1: bring Honor to Us all is playing, espousing the qualities 251 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 1: that make a woman desirable as a wife and yes, 252 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 1: a tiny waist this one, and that bringing honor for 253 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 1: a woman means getting married. That's quickly established. Mulan's grandmother 254 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 1: gives her a lucky cricket, and one of my favorite 255 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:01,880 Speaker 1: random facts out this movie is that most of the 256 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 1: creators hated the cricket. They hated him because they always 257 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 1: had to ask, well, what is the cricket doing during 258 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 1: this scene? But one of the other creators kept sliding 259 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 1: images of the cricket creekie under under their doors, and 260 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 1: so that's how we got him anyway. Mulan meets the 261 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 1: Matchmaker played by Miry Margoyles a k a. Professor Sprout 262 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 1: from Harry Potter. Now the message is clear. To fit 263 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 1: in as a woman in the society, to succeed, you 264 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 1: have to look and act a certain way. For the 265 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 1: tea a certain way, and Mulan does not fit in. 266 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 1: The matchmaker says too skinney, not good for bearing boys. 267 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 1: So we also get that kind of established that, yes, 268 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 1: having children is also a part of this being a 269 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 1: good woman. The way the scene plays out makes it 270 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 1: obvious that Mulan shapes against the system, even if she 271 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 1: is doing her best to to fit into it. Her 272 00:15:56,640 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 1: cheat notes get smudged and have done the Matchmaker's face, 273 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 1: and through a series of events, the matchmakers ask sketches 274 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:08,360 Speaker 1: on fire, of course obviously, and Mulan put that fire 275 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:11,840 Speaker 1: out with her pot of tea, I mean, becomes one 276 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 1: of the best costumes I've seen. Yes, ever have you 277 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 1: ever seen people cosplaying this? The matchmaker after the fact, 278 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 1: it's fantastic. Oh, I want to see that so badly. 279 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 1: The Matchmaker is happy about it, though, and she really 280 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 1: assures in front of everyone Mulan will never bring honor 281 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 1: to her family. She has failed both as a woman 282 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 1: and a daughter. Yes, her head hung glow, she walks out, yes, 283 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 1: and yeah, I mean we get kind of an emo moment. Yes, 284 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 1: then we get to our second song. Yes, a metal 285 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 1: maybe emo song. Yeah, for sure, about not recognizing yourself 286 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 1: in the mirror, not knowing who you are. Milan's father 287 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 1: tips to comfort her, but they're interrupted by soldiers coming 288 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 1: into town. The leader reads that one man from every 289 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:01,320 Speaker 1: family must join the army the fight against the Huns, 290 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:05,280 Speaker 1: and when they call Mulan's family name, her elderly ill father, 291 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 1: the only male in the family steps forward to accept 292 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 1: that notice. Mulan rushes forward, asking that they give her 293 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 1: father reprieve, but the conscriptor chief fu ties Mulan's father 294 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 1: for not teaching her to hold her tongue quote unquote, 295 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:22,120 Speaker 1: and Mulan's dad says, she brings this honor to him. Awkward, 296 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:27,240 Speaker 1: it's a really After fighting with her dad and another 297 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:32,360 Speaker 1: emo music cue called scene six, I believe Um, Mulan 298 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 1: cuts off her hair, dons her father's armor, rides off 299 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:40,640 Speaker 1: on their horse to the soldier encampment. Her family cannot 300 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:44,720 Speaker 1: reveal her or she'll be executed. Her grandmother calls on 301 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 1: the family's ancestors to protect Mulan, and this is when 302 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:51,920 Speaker 1: we get introduced to Disgrace family ancestor Mushu played by 303 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 1: Eddie Murphy, a small dragon who doesn't have a great 304 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:58,200 Speaker 1: track record when it comes to protection. It's the Disgrace. 305 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:02,000 Speaker 1: The ancestors agreed to say end out their most fierce protector, 306 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 1: but Mushoe accidentally destroys his statue, so pretends to be him, 307 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:11,959 Speaker 1: of course, and goes in his place along with Cricky 308 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 1: Lucky Cricket. When we cut back to Milan, she's trying 309 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:17,920 Speaker 1: to master her man voice, her man walk to a 310 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:21,480 Speaker 1: little success. Mushoe appears promising to help her. He does 311 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 1: this whole like a big fire and brimstone thing, and 312 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 1: then it's revealed, Oh he's this little dragon. Um. Then 313 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 1: we see a series of gender stereotypes play out. I 314 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:31,920 Speaker 1: guess those also with Mulan trying to be a man 315 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:36,959 Speaker 1: fit in um with Mushoe. He's trying to like coat here, 316 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:40,640 Speaker 1: but he's doing a terrible job, just off all and 317 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:42,679 Speaker 1: he says things like punch it. Men like that or 318 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 1: slap him in the butt. They love that too. Yeah, 319 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:47,879 Speaker 1: that's what I've been told. I you know, well, it's 320 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 1: a fight certainly broke out. So here we meet Shane, 321 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:56,840 Speaker 1: who was eager to also get his father's approval. What 322 00:18:56,960 --> 00:18:59,959 Speaker 1: follows is a training montage set to I'll make him 323 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:01,879 Speaker 1: in out of you, and hopefully we've got a clip 324 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:04,360 Speaker 1: for you to watch as well of this, I'm gonna 325 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:07,399 Speaker 1: make this happen, where we see Mulan struggle through training, 326 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:10,400 Speaker 1: but she perseveres. Then, not only that, she figures out 327 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:12,880 Speaker 1: how to retrieve the arrow shame shot into the top 328 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 1: of the wooden pole, something no one else was able 329 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:18,159 Speaker 1: to do, by the way, and by doing this she 330 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 1: earns the respect of the other soldiers. Thank god. This 331 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:27,320 Speaker 1: all with the lyrics playing out reinforcing the gender stereotypes 332 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:30,480 Speaker 1: that Mulan is breaking. Quote did they send me daughters 333 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:33,679 Speaker 1: when I asked for sons? Yes, maybe they did. The 334 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 1: whole implication that quote being a man is the only 335 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:40,000 Speaker 1: acceptable way of strength in warfare. We see her unique 336 00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 1: set of skills play out again after they discovered that 337 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:45,960 Speaker 1: the soldiers of steering his father was massacred along with 338 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 1: his father, and they are attacked by the huns in 339 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 1: a mountain path down to one firecracker. Mulan shoots it 340 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 1: to the top of the mountain, causing an avalanche that 341 00:19:54,880 --> 00:20:00,040 Speaker 1: swamps the Huns. Yeah. And then and then Mulan on 342 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 1: It's wounded in the process, and it's revealed that she 343 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 1: is oh woman, what treacherous snake. Instead of executing her, 344 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 1: Shane spares her, saying a life for a life. Yeah. 345 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:15,200 Speaker 1: And then Mulan is left on the mountain with her horse, 346 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:18,960 Speaker 1: Creaky and Mushoe. She laments that when she looks at 347 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 1: her reflection she still sees nothing by a girl. No, 348 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:25,439 Speaker 1: but she does see the Hans rise out of the 349 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:27,679 Speaker 1: snow and head to the city. She heads down to 350 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:30,359 Speaker 1: warn them, but of course they refused to listen now 351 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 1: that she's a woman. Yeah, shame as she said, you 352 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:36,879 Speaker 1: said you trusted ping. Why is Mulan any different? And 353 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 1: they're like, uh, this is so fun. Samantha and I 354 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 1: of course did her thing where we watched this in preparation. 355 00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 1: We had our date night and Samantha was making fun 356 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:46,280 Speaker 1: of me because I was so interest even though I've 357 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 1: seen it a million times. I was like, you know, 358 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:51,760 Speaker 1: my favorite will be like, oh my god, are you 359 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:53,720 Speaker 1: really shocked by this. Have you not seen this? What's happening? 360 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 1: I just get invested. You surely do, and I love 361 00:20:56,359 --> 00:21:00,920 Speaker 1: watching just for that. I get really into it. Okay, 362 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:04,080 Speaker 1: So the Huns appear and they kidnapped the Emperor. Mulan 363 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:07,359 Speaker 1: was felling the truth. Turns out, Mulan comes up with 364 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:11,480 Speaker 1: a plan that involves the men addressing as concubines, using 365 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 1: her earlier technique of climbing the wooden pole that she 366 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:18,920 Speaker 1: she perfected at the soldier encampment, and then they attack 367 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 1: the Hun soldiers. Using her brain, her strength, and her 368 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 1: newfound skills, She's able to free the Emperor, save Shang, 369 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 1: and save China. Not bad. The Emperor gives her a job. 370 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 1: She foush job after he says she an she'll never 371 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:37,399 Speaker 1: obey a way with anything. He's terrible. Uh. The Emperor 372 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:40,399 Speaker 1: gives Mulan his crest and the sword of Sean, You 373 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:43,560 Speaker 1: the leader of the Huns, for all that she's done, 374 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:46,720 Speaker 1: which Mulan, after everyone bows to her in a very 375 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 1: moving scene, prompably gives to her father. He drops these items, 376 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:54,200 Speaker 1: hugging her instead and saying the greatest honor is having 377 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:58,400 Speaker 1: you for a daughter. Then Shang shows up, who did 378 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 1: a terrible job flirting earlier, telling her you fight good. Uh, 379 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:07,719 Speaker 1: and he also does a terrible job now. So Mulan 380 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:11,680 Speaker 1: takes charge and invites him to dinner. Her honor is restored, 381 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:14,440 Speaker 1: moves shoes, honor is restored, He's made in a family 382 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:19,200 Speaker 1: ancestral guardian once again, and Shanks is restored. I guess 383 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:23,640 Speaker 1: found Yeah anyway, um, Happily ever after, cut to ninety 384 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:27,479 Speaker 1: degrees plus the Wonder plus Stevie Wonder and for for 385 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 1: younger folks listening, ninety degrees was a band in the 386 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 1: vein of Backstreet boys and didn't sink and maybe handsome brand. Yeah, 387 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:40,640 Speaker 1: no offense ninety eight degrees, but they were kind of like, 388 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:44,879 Speaker 1: you know, your second tier you tried, Oh well you 389 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:47,080 Speaker 1: got at the end of Mulan. So they did something 390 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:52,680 Speaker 1: we haven't done. Give me a minute, put down your 391 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 1: sparkling water, and here we go. Okay, So that's that's 392 00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 1: the basic plot. But obviously we want to we want 393 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:02,520 Speaker 1: to get into some of the tropes in this movie 394 00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 1: that we can we can really talk about. But first 395 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:06,240 Speaker 1: we're gonna get into one more quick break for a 396 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:22,360 Speaker 1: word from our sponsor and we're back, Thank you sponsor. 397 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:26,719 Speaker 1: And yeah, there there are a lot of things in 398 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:29,359 Speaker 1: this movie when it comes to gender stereotypes that we 399 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 1: can talk about, and one of them that we we 400 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:34,920 Speaker 1: wanted to touch on was this whole idea of the matchmaker, right, 401 00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 1: so I was very curious after watching the scene with 402 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 1: the musical number bring honor to us all, and of 403 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 1: course with all the implications that a matchmaker would define 404 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:44,920 Speaker 1: whether honor could be brought to the family with feminine 405 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:49,520 Speaker 1: ability to find her match a man. And after researching, 406 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 1: there was quite a bit of information on old traditions, 407 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:55,119 Speaker 1: including a tea ceremony which would involve the female serving 408 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:58,040 Speaker 1: tea to our possible mate and his family and if 409 00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:00,760 Speaker 1: it went well, the man would put an broadered red 410 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:03,880 Speaker 1: bag on a saucer and then she wanted she could 411 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:07,160 Speaker 1: accept it, much like a rose, I would think. And 412 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:10,200 Speaker 1: but again this would be set up by a matchmaker. 413 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:13,680 Speaker 1: And though the practice was common, it was not necessarily 414 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:16,280 Speaker 1: due to forcing women to marry, but as an assistant 415 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:19,400 Speaker 1: slash service for the family. And with that it wasn't 416 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 1: necessary to match a man to a woman, but it 417 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:25,199 Speaker 1: was about finding family with family, so bringing in a 418 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:29,439 Speaker 1: unit rather than just man woman. It was a social arrangement. Also, 419 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 1: at one point in history, matchmaker slash match brokers were 420 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:34,639 Speaker 1: so important they are appointed by the government and given 421 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:38,399 Speaker 1: certificates of authority. Yeah, and I think this is always 422 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:42,359 Speaker 1: a good reminder that our current understanding of marriage and 423 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:45,960 Speaker 1: the romantic senses actually relatively new, right, and we have 424 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:49,200 Speaker 1: to say they're still matchmakers. Just because it may be 425 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:54,439 Speaker 1: automated online doesn't mean they're not. That's true, we see 426 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:58,280 Speaker 1: you dating apps. It should also be noted that though 427 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:01,600 Speaker 1: there were some extreme policies in in ancient Chinese periods, 428 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:04,600 Speaker 1: it was rare and extreme meant that they were women 429 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:06,719 Speaker 1: were not being married by some teen If girls were 430 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 1: not married by choice, they would be forced to. However, 431 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:14,040 Speaker 1: it seemed matchmakers weren't always necessary, but traditions could involve 432 00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:18,000 Speaker 1: festivals and get togethers for singles, some sort of bixer maybe. 433 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:20,960 Speaker 1: For example, there was an annual mid spring meeting on 434 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:24,439 Speaker 1: the third day of Lunar March which involved wine, so 435 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:29,840 Speaker 1: definitely in and a lantern festivals which are still celebrated 436 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 1: as the Spring Lantern Festival, which happens the fifteenth day 437 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:35,840 Speaker 1: of the first lunar month. Yes, and by the way, 438 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:38,639 Speaker 1: it is also informally known as Chinese Mountain's Day. I 439 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 1: like that idea, right, yeah, So that's what we found 440 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 1: with the matchmaking, and I know there's a lot more 441 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:47,919 Speaker 1: information and it goes into traditional marriage today. But we 442 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:51,879 Speaker 1: also want to talk about girl worth fighting for, which 443 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:56,160 Speaker 1: is one of the musical numbers. And definitely this implies 444 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:59,560 Speaker 1: that women are prizes to be one that men go 445 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 1: to are with intent of winning. Someone that looks a 446 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:06,440 Speaker 1: certain way, cooks a certain way. I definitely don't cook 447 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:08,920 Speaker 1: a certain way. When Mulan says she's like a woman 448 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 1: with a brain who can also speak her mind, they're like, 449 00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:15,320 Speaker 1: uh nah, all were good, We're good. Were good? Right, 450 00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:20,000 Speaker 1: So there, yeah, but pretty much subjectifying women, painting women 451 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:22,880 Speaker 1: of I want this woman to be able to meet 452 00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:26,440 Speaker 1: these needs for me, and it's mostly looks and gender stereotypes, 453 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 1: like she has to look a certain way, cook a 454 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 1: certain way. Because the audience is meant to side with Mulan, however, 455 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:34,119 Speaker 1: and view her actions as correct. We're meant to infer 456 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:37,480 Speaker 1: that Mulan it was right and these men are wrong. 457 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:41,600 Speaker 1: And we can also talk about fragile masculinity moves you, 458 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:44,960 Speaker 1: taking credit for successes and causing and denying most of 459 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:48,320 Speaker 1: her failures. And when he implies he can see through 460 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:52,480 Speaker 1: her armor and she slaps him, he threatens her with dishonor, 461 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 1: which is one of my favorite lines. I will say, 462 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:56,720 Speaker 1: it's funny to see him this coercing hard to apologize 463 00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:59,080 Speaker 1: to him, though he implies that by teaching her about 464 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 1: masculinity is the only thing keeping her alive. He's the 465 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 1: one who outcasts her. What I mean, honestly, he caused 466 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:10,360 Speaker 1: the fights and it's constantly making message that she has 467 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:14,960 Speaker 1: the effects every time. Y'all. Um, Yeah, he's really sexist, 468 00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:20,560 Speaker 1: slash stupid girly capbitts. He says, with her wanting to clean, 469 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:24,800 Speaker 1: you got to be clean. Yeah, I mean to be fair. 470 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 1: That's probably one of the moments that he did predict 471 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:29,120 Speaker 1: something bad, what's going to happen, which all the men 472 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:32,320 Speaker 1: and unfortunately she had to get all of the man parts. 473 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:36,120 Speaker 1: But he was supposed to be watching out. She assigned 474 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:39,480 Speaker 1: him with being a lookout and he failed. He did. 475 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 1: And another thing we can talk about when it comes 476 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:46,480 Speaker 1: to gender stereotypes is the binary um, because it is 477 00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:50,280 Speaker 1: very you are this masculine trait or you are this 478 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:55,640 Speaker 1: feminine trait? And some have argued at Munlan only succeeds 479 00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:58,520 Speaker 1: because she pretends to be a man. But I think 480 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:02,800 Speaker 1: she succeeds by embracing both her feminine and masculine side, 481 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:06,479 Speaker 1: by embracing all parts of herself. She uses the fan um, 482 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:10,120 Speaker 1: a traditional signifier of femininity, and the sword, a traditional 483 00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:13,159 Speaker 1: sign of masculinity, to fight shown you all while wearing 484 00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:17,000 Speaker 1: a feminine but not super skimpy tight dress. So and 485 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:20,399 Speaker 1: even in the scene where she figures out how to 486 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:22,679 Speaker 1: get that arrow that everyone else has failed, that she 487 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:26,239 Speaker 1: does that by kind of embracing these dual parts of 488 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:28,800 Speaker 1: her that honestly we don't even have to necessarily label 489 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:31,960 Speaker 1: masculine feminine. It's just traditionally they have been seen that way. 490 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:34,920 Speaker 1: But that's just my view of it. I feel like 491 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:40,000 Speaker 1: she she embraces both the things, and that's why she 492 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:45,200 Speaker 1: she goes beyond the limits. Yes, Another another theme that 493 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 1: is pretty relevant throughout the this movie is fatherhood, family, 494 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:55,160 Speaker 1: the idea of being a perfect daughter. Um. And and 495 00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 1: I when I was watching this, I you know, I 496 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:03,440 Speaker 1: came in with my like I'm going to dissect all 497 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:08,120 Speaker 1: of these interactions, and one thing I noticed was the 498 00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:11,480 Speaker 1: interaction with the mother who is mostly silence Um, kind 499 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:15,320 Speaker 1: of always watching and like feeling firm lan but knowing 500 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 1: that she has to this is her way of success. 501 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:22,200 Speaker 1: And even if Mulan she knows it's not going to 502 00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:24,840 Speaker 1: be happy with it, like this is how it is. 503 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:28,120 Speaker 1: That was just the vibe I got. And then Mulan 504 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:32,720 Speaker 1: having this kind of like spine we call the spine 505 00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:34,960 Speaker 1: and acting or it's your whole thing, like your whole 506 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:39,840 Speaker 1: motivation is I have got to bring honor to my father. 507 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:44,400 Speaker 1: That is my whole thing. And even in her first song, 508 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:48,160 Speaker 1: reflection Um, she's singing about like I'll never be the 509 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:51,200 Speaker 1: perfect daughter, and that's something we've talked about a lot 510 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:53,760 Speaker 1: on the show, the whole dutiful daughter idea and sort 511 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:57,080 Speaker 1: of this dynamic between fathers and daughters. I mean, there 512 00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:58,880 Speaker 1: seems to be an absence of mothers when it comes 513 00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:01,640 Speaker 1: to Disney movies. If we get yeah, if we look 514 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:04,280 Speaker 1: at things like Lion King in itself and you're like, what, 515 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:09,959 Speaker 1: Mama don't care, MoMA don't in the corner, I guess, okay, okay, 516 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 1: but it does it kind of plays up the fatherly 517 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:16,520 Speaker 1: man of the house. Yes, and you and I have joked, 518 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:19,640 Speaker 1: even though I'm semi serious, that we could do a 519 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:22,960 Speaker 1: whole like side show called Daddy Issues, where we would 520 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 1: just pick out a movie and talk about the daddy 521 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:28,800 Speaker 1: issues in it. So many daddy issues, so many I 522 00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:30,960 Speaker 1: just want to put in here. I found an entire 523 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:34,240 Speaker 1: seventy two page paper. Did you read it all? Oh? Yes, 524 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:38,280 Speaker 1: I did, Uh, comparing Mulan to Mowanna, and there are 525 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:41,040 Speaker 1: so many similarities. They're practically the same movie in a 526 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:43,360 Speaker 1: lot of ways. Oh really, I haven't seen Mohanna, so 527 00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:47,360 Speaker 1: I don't know. It's good. People love it, That's very good. Yeah, 528 00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:51,560 Speaker 1: it's definitely a lot of sillarias. So Mulan's motivations are 529 00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:54,400 Speaker 1: generally selfless, but we do see the dynamic of trying 530 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:59,000 Speaker 1: to please men, her father Shane, patriarchal society, and at 531 00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:00,960 Speaker 1: the end of the movie, she would turns home to 532 00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:04,200 Speaker 1: what we assume to be the obedient daughter. Her grandmother 533 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:06,640 Speaker 1: even says, oh, great, she brought home a sword. If 534 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:08,440 Speaker 1: you asked me, she should have brought home a man. 535 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:12,480 Speaker 1: After all, she's done literally saving the country. They still 536 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:15,320 Speaker 1: are more concerned about her ability to get a man. Yeah, 537 00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:19,200 Speaker 1: the emperors, as in the beginning, a single grain of 538 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:21,640 Speaker 1: rice can tip the scale. One man may be the 539 00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:24,880 Speaker 1: difference between victory and defeat. So women are not even 540 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:28,280 Speaker 1: considered a part of that equation. And then at the 541 00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:31,320 Speaker 1: end he says, you don't meet a girl like that 542 00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:34,920 Speaker 1: every dynasty, implying she's a rare specimen in somebody's kind 543 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:39,280 Speaker 1: of mothering her. Right, that she is not like other women. 544 00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:44,120 Speaker 1: Therefore she's more likable, Right, she's better, she's superior. Um, 545 00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:46,440 Speaker 1: And you're not really going to go into this that much. 546 00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:48,760 Speaker 1: But Shewing is also trying to please his fathers. So 547 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:51,840 Speaker 1: this is I actually had never really appreciated that before 548 00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:54,120 Speaker 1: until we did this research, that they have sort of 549 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:59,240 Speaker 1: a parallel storyline of of trying to to please their 550 00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:03,080 Speaker 1: fathers honor, bring honor. Yes, um, And I do think 551 00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:09,160 Speaker 1: I remember the first time I saw Frozen, and at 552 00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:12,680 Speaker 1: the end I was like, finally, finally, finally, finally somebody 553 00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:17,160 Speaker 1: touched on. There are other types of love then romantic love, 554 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:20,880 Speaker 1: but I forgot Mulan did it first? Maybe not first, 555 00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:24,840 Speaker 1: but did it before Frozen? Um, it was just between 556 00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:28,080 Speaker 1: a father and a daughter, whereas Frozen was two sisters, 557 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:31,720 Speaker 1: so a little different, but it is really really refreshing, 558 00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:33,520 Speaker 1: and I think that's one of the things that helped 559 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:37,200 Speaker 1: this movie work or feel like it was something different 560 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:40,240 Speaker 1: than a lot of other Disney things we've seen before, 561 00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:42,880 Speaker 1: and to be real, a lot of other just media 562 00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:46,160 Speaker 1: in general you've seen before, um and something else we 563 00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:48,440 Speaker 1: wanted to touch on, or some of the queer undertones 564 00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:51,520 Speaker 1: in this movie. Some articles argue that in some ways 565 00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:54,840 Speaker 1: Mulan is a great examination of gender performance, that a 566 00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:59,560 Speaker 1: certain set of traits can be adopted and performed. For 567 00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:03,120 Speaker 1: jen Nerve when the men dressed as women, the song 568 00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:05,120 Speaker 1: I'll Make a Man out of You plays again, and 569 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:08,040 Speaker 1: you can be one gender while adopting traits of another. 570 00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:11,040 Speaker 1: Gender roles can change what you already talked about before. 571 00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:13,880 Speaker 1: And at the same time, the movie shows that gender 572 00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:16,640 Speaker 1: roles are not an easy thing to break out of, 573 00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:22,080 Speaker 1: which is unfortunately, very obviously true. It's true. It's one 574 00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:26,400 Speaker 1: of those things where sometimes when I watch media like 575 00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:31,440 Speaker 1: that that depicts something that I know is true, there's 576 00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:34,200 Speaker 1: just something about it that gives me an anxiety, Like 577 00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:38,480 Speaker 1: I know it's true, right, but sometimes I just want 578 00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:42,920 Speaker 1: to see something different, different, right right? Um, I get 579 00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:45,880 Speaker 1: I get that way a lot with sexual assault, like 580 00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:48,680 Speaker 1: I know, but I don't know that we need to 581 00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:50,800 Speaker 1: see this because I feel like it's perpetuating it in 582 00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:55,280 Speaker 1: some ways, right Okay? And this I want to talk 583 00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:59,600 Speaker 1: about this question. Did Shang love ping a k A. 584 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:07,640 Speaker 1: Mulan's masculine the identity she adopted? Right? Okay? So I've 585 00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:11,919 Speaker 1: always wondered this, and I'm not the only one. Apparently 586 00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:15,240 Speaker 1: Shang isn't going to be in this new live action 587 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:18,480 Speaker 1: remake of Mulan, instead replaced by a rifle character who 588 00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:21,720 Speaker 1: wants to best her as always trying to to beat Mulan. 589 00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:25,279 Speaker 1: And some people are angry that a bisexual character, someone 590 00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:28,360 Speaker 1: they viewed as a bisexual character, is being removed to 591 00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:31,640 Speaker 1: make way for what sounds like, at least at the outset, 592 00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:37,640 Speaker 1: a misogynistic one. May he probably definitely changes, but sounds 593 00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:40,200 Speaker 1: that way. Um. There are a lot of articles that 594 00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:44,560 Speaker 1: you can find where people right that they consider Shang 595 00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:47,400 Speaker 1: a bisexual icon. And when I was watching it with 596 00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:49,719 Speaker 1: those sort of eyes this time, I had a bunch 597 00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:53,280 Speaker 1: of moments like oh yeah, coming that, and then Mulan 598 00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:56,400 Speaker 1: appears on the show Once Upon a Time, which is 599 00:34:56,560 --> 00:35:01,759 Speaker 1: a TV series with ABC, she's actually depicted bisexual. She 600 00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:04,480 Speaker 1: falls in love with Aurora, and when she comes to 601 00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:07,319 Speaker 1: confess her love, she finds that Aurora is pregnant with 602 00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:10,680 Speaker 1: the child with her Prince Charming, and then after that 603 00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:13,680 Speaker 1: heartbroken moment, she leaves to go be a merry man 604 00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:18,040 Speaker 1: with Robin Hood. Yes, but she was one of the 605 00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:21,840 Speaker 1: first characters on that show to be portrayed in that manner. 606 00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:24,880 Speaker 1: Later on, I want to say a little red riding 607 00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:32,480 Speaker 1: Hood is depicted as bisexual. Who pretty cool? Um, Yeah, 608 00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:36,080 Speaker 1: it's definitely. As I said, I've read a lot of 609 00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:37,960 Speaker 1: fan fiction and it has changed our view a lot 610 00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:42,120 Speaker 1: of movies. But seeing it with those eyes, I yeah, 611 00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:43,799 Speaker 1: I understand now that you say that. I feel like 612 00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:46,160 Speaker 1: Once Upon a Time the show that I really like it, 613 00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:49,120 Speaker 1: and I think you would like it. You really could 614 00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:54,520 Speaker 1: be like a layered fan fiction throughout. Yeah. Yeah, because 615 00:35:54,520 --> 00:36:00,360 Speaker 1: it takes different takes on things. I'm like, uh okay, 616 00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:05,800 Speaker 1: And we did want to end on racism just because 617 00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:11,799 Speaker 1: like it's worth mentioning. Obviously, there's definitely some racism in 618 00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:16,640 Speaker 1: this movie. Some of the the slights worse than others, 619 00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:20,280 Speaker 1: particularly Mushu, who I would say is the greatest offender 620 00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:26,760 Speaker 1: in most categories sexism and racism. Um, as we touched 621 00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:32,279 Speaker 1: on with that McDonald's campaign. Uh yeah, and also we 622 00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:35,920 Speaker 1: didn't really talk about this, but um, because this movie 623 00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:42,120 Speaker 1: wasn't as formulaic a i e. Not a white princess 624 00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:44,480 Speaker 1: in the front of it, they didn't think it was 625 00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:46,880 Speaker 1: going to be successful, so they didn't put money into it, 626 00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:51,080 Speaker 1: so that McDonald's campaign was one of the only campaigns 627 00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:55,520 Speaker 1: they did, and it was pretty racist, racist, And I 628 00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:58,520 Speaker 1: did appreciate the fact that they did have a large 629 00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:02,560 Speaker 1: cast of Asian identifying actors, which I did actually appreciate 630 00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:06,160 Speaker 1: because the majority of the time you see everything being 631 00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:10,680 Speaker 1: whitewashed and having these main characters actually be Asian people 632 00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:13,080 Speaker 1: when you look at it, like what I mean, now, 633 00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:15,640 Speaker 1: when is it I loved her enjoy Luck Club and 634 00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:20,040 Speaker 1: she's actually representing an Asian Chinese character. This is phenomenal 635 00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:22,719 Speaker 1: and I love it. So it did do well in 636 00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:26,319 Speaker 1: that respect, I think at that point in time, surprising 637 00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:30,520 Speaker 1: that they went that far. Yeah, especially considering like even now, 638 00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:34,600 Speaker 1: right even now, that is a continued conversation. And I 639 00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:36,600 Speaker 1: also appreciate that they didn't bring in a white savior. 640 00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:39,640 Speaker 1: Oh my god, yes, which, like we said, that was 641 00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:43,799 Speaker 1: part of the original script. We really Yeah, it could 642 00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:46,040 Speaker 1: have been way worse. Also, I've seen me no win 643 00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:50,359 Speaker 1: a dragon cop before and she was great. It's amazing. Um. 644 00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:56,040 Speaker 1: But yeah, and watching it, like the Huns, I get 645 00:37:56,160 --> 00:38:00,719 Speaker 1: that they're villains, but in some of the pictured it, 646 00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:07,440 Speaker 1: I it makes me uncomfortable. Yeah, so there's that that layer. 647 00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:11,600 Speaker 1: And then also like this is perhaps obvious, but there's 648 00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:15,960 Speaker 1: a lot of historical inaccuracies. Um, Like I believe the Palace, 649 00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:18,720 Speaker 1: the Forbidden Palace, wouldn't have been built at that time. 650 00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:21,920 Speaker 1: And then I read somewhere I didn't really get to 651 00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:23,800 Speaker 1: follow up on it, but I read like fa Mulan, 652 00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:27,840 Speaker 1: one is Cantonese and one is Mandarin. Like just things 653 00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:33,800 Speaker 1: like that. Um, So, always be mindful of the entertainment 654 00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:36,839 Speaker 1: you consume. It's totally cool to like something, but just 655 00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:40,040 Speaker 1: be aware of the messages you get in the context. Yeah, 656 00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:42,479 Speaker 1: and especially for children when we whenever we talk about 657 00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:45,719 Speaker 1: something that children consume. I I don't have kids, so 658 00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:47,799 Speaker 1: I always feel weird saying this, but I do. I 659 00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:50,680 Speaker 1: think that it's important to just before you show your 660 00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:56,400 Speaker 1: kids something, watch it and then decide, like, what is 661 00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:58,600 Speaker 1: there a conversation I need to have is the context 662 00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:00,799 Speaker 1: I need to provide? What are they going to take 663 00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:04,400 Speaker 1: from this? Because I think it's totally cool to show them, 664 00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:08,799 Speaker 1: but it would be helpful, um if you had that 665 00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:14,480 Speaker 1: kind of conversation before you went in. So that is 666 00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:19,000 Speaker 1: what we had to say about Mulan. And honestly, we 667 00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:21,960 Speaker 1: could have kept going there. I'm sure there's so much. 668 00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:26,000 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, every time I would come back, it would 669 00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:28,040 Speaker 1: come up with a new article. I'm like, son of uh, 670 00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:33,480 Speaker 1: thank you for writing so many detailed papers about Mulan, 671 00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:37,239 Speaker 1: but I don't have time to read the mall. Unfortunately, 672 00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:41,520 Speaker 1: if we missed anything, please let us know if we 673 00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:45,560 Speaker 1: misinterpreted anything, if you read the wrong paper, yeah, let 674 00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:49,640 Speaker 1: us know, yeah, or if you just had any different takeaways. Um, 675 00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:53,600 Speaker 1: and also let us know what our next movie. I 676 00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:56,560 Speaker 1: know we've had many a conversation we have. We need 677 00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:59,279 Speaker 1: to do a poll. You should do a poll. We've 678 00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:01,479 Speaker 1: got a couple of questions we could put them, post 679 00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:04,160 Speaker 1: them and see so look out for the poll, look 680 00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:08,839 Speaker 1: out for the pole, and you can email us any 681 00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:12,200 Speaker 1: suggestions at Stuff Media, mom Stuff at iHeart media dot com. 682 00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:14,200 Speaker 1: You can find us on Twitter at mom Stuff podcast 683 00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:17,520 Speaker 1: or on Instagram at Stuff. I Never told You. Thanks 684 00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:20,799 Speaker 1: as always to our super producer Andrew Howard, you did it, 685 00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:24,239 Speaker 1: and thanks to you for listening. Stuff Never Told You 686 00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:26,279 Speaker 1: the protection of I Heart Radio's How Stuff Works. 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