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Speaker 4: Indeed we do so.

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Speaker 2: Apparently the government drafted an announcement of Epstein's death dated

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Speaker 2: the day before he died. I am not kidding, like

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Speaker 2: this is the down the rabbit hole through the looking

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Speaker 2: glass moment if we weren't already there. So we'll break

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Speaker 2: that down for as long as as well as some

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Speaker 2: other revelations powerful people that were involved. There's some important

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Speaker 2: reporting that's going on here. Beaving Nan Yahoo coming back

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Speaker 4: So we will take a look at that.

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Speaker 2: Even Republicans have been uncomfortable with the stunningly racist video

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Speaker 2: that President Trump posted, Just like the White House walked

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Speaker 2: him about our politics, et cetera. We're going to take

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Speaker 2: candate for candidate for Senate in Nebraska. He ran previously,

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Speaker 2: There's some very significant commerce and monopoly issues in Nebraska

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Speaker 3: We are starting off with Epstein with some very very

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Speaker 3: All right, let's go ahead and start here with Epstein.

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Speaker 3: There was a ad actually released by many of the

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Speaker 3: They're saying on November nineteenth, twenty twenty five, the Epstein

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Speaker 3: The US Attorney Berman announced Epstein's death with letterhead dated

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Speaker 3: I always say Epstein died. I don't say he was killed.

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Speaker 3: You've got the cell made, you know, questions, you've got

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Speaker 3: And so you know, you would actually be, in my opinion,

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Speaker 2: attorney Berman was fired under very strange and contentious circumstances

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Speaker 2: We learned that we talked about before is that his

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Speaker 3: the things are getting more unhinged as we go. The

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Speaker 4: So yeah, that's where Why the cloak and dagger?

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Speaker 5: Right?

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Speaker 3: In twenty eighteen, he ordered half a dozen fifty five

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Speaker 3: And look again, I'm reading the wire transfer form for

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Speaker 2: What tell us about your sulfuric acid and ocean trapdoor

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Speaker 2: I mean, you said in our pitch that advertisers get

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Speaker 4: We're going to get right according to the government.

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Speaker 4: What cash Betel told you.

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Speaker 2: He told you that he looked at the files and

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Speaker 4: Have we seen those files?

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Speaker 2: What was it that you were looking at that was

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Speaker 2: Let's go ahead and remind ourselves exactly what he said.

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Speaker 1: Today, eight months after that, are you still convinced.

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Speaker 2: So he absolutely killed himself, Soger, and he didn't traffic anyone,

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Speaker 1: But don't listen to me. Listen to Cash in twenty twenty.

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Speaker 3: He's the one who said all of this, and he

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Speaker 3: Yeah, oh wait, Wow, this just just broke from the

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Speaker 1: Let's continue, shall we?

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Speaker 3: The fact is Maxwell is no longer content with conditions

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Speaker 3: I'm just telling you though, that at this moment, the

441
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Speaker 3: idea that they did not have information or potential leads

442
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Speaker 3: and all of that on various relative this is just

443
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Speaker 3: completely not true.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, completely not true.

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Speaker 2: You won't be surprised that a number of the names

446
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Speaker 2: in here, and one of the names identified by the

447
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Speaker 2: FBI as a prominent man for whom significant allegations had

448
00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:10,919
Speaker 2: been leveled against was President Trump. So look to your point,

449
00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:13,960
Speaker 2: does any of this, like, is this meet the evidentiary

450
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Speaker 2: standard that would have to hold up in court. No,

451
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Speaker 2: it doesn't appear based on what we have publicly were

452
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Speaker 2: these things investigated. You know what happened with all these tips?

453
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Speaker 2: Were they investigated? Where's that information? Were you able to

454
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Speaker 2: dispel all of you know, these allegations against all of

455
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Speaker 2: these various powerful men. And then I think the Gallaine

456
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Speaker 2: Maxwell thing is worth dwelling on, because again, where does

457
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Speaker 2: she sit right now? She sits in a club fed

458
00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:42,160
Speaker 2: minimum security prison that's supposed to be for white collar criminals.

459
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Speaker 2: She is not supposed to be there at all as

460
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Speaker 2: a sex offender.

461
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Speaker 4: Number one, number two.

462
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Speaker 2: Even within that, she's getting all kinds of special cushy

463
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Speaker 2: treatment with her puppy and her access to you know,

464
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Speaker 2: electronic communications and her private ability to wander the grounds

465
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Speaker 2: by herself and get visitors in the ward and saying

466
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Speaker 2: that he's sick of be in her bitch. Okay, So

467
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Speaker 2: she is playing some sort of a game here, And

468
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Speaker 2: now this to me reads like a shot across the bow.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 4: Who are these.

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Speaker 2: Twenty five men that apparently Struck deals according according to her,

472
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Speaker 2: in this legal filing, that apparently Struck deals with the

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Speaker 2: with our government to be able to, you know, make

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Speaker 2: this whole thing go away.

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Speaker 4: Who are they? And why did.

476
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Speaker 2: Our government have an interest in striking those deals with

477
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Speaker 2: those individuals. If if what she is alleging here is true,

478
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Speaker 2: that would be a significant thing to know. Thomas Massey,

479
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Speaker 2: I believe today, says that he is going to be

480
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Speaker 2: reviewing a number of the unredacted files. He's supposed to

481
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Speaker 2: have access to the entire cash of unredacted files, and

482
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Speaker 2: he was asking people, Okay, what should I look for

483
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Speaker 2: in this?

484
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Speaker 4: You know, limited time that I have to go in.

485
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Speaker 2: So he's continuing to push forward, and you know, let's

486
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Speaker 2: go ahead and take a listen to the aggressive posture

487
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Speaker 2: he is taking. He's saying he will use the nuclear

488
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Speaker 2: option if the DOJ refuses to unredact the names of

489
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Speaker 2: the powerful men that are associated with this.

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Speaker 4: Because remember, in this.

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Speaker 2: Release, according to the law that Massey and Conna pushed

492
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Speaker 2: through and were able to get passed and signed into

493
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Speaker 2: law by President Trump, there are very limited reasons that

494
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Speaker 2: you are allowed, legally permitted to redact.

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Speaker 4: Okay, they have.

496
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Speaker 2: Clearly gone far beyond that while screwing up and leaving

497
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Speaker 2: unredacted a number of the victims' names and likenesses. So

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Speaker 2: let's go ahead and take a listen to Thomas Massey

499
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Speaker 2: in the way he's continuing to try to fight here.

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Speaker 7: I'm ready to do that if the victims want me to.

501
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Speaker 7: They believe that the best way to get justice is

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Speaker 7: to force the DOJ to release these names. I've already

503
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Speaker 7: read one name in a committee with the FBI director there.

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Speaker 1: That's just Staiway. And again, he may or may not.

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Speaker 7: Be guilty, but he's been accused by these victims that

506
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Speaker 7: the lawyer tells me. And there are other names. I

507
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Speaker 7: don't have them in my possession, but if the victims

508
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Speaker 7: want to give them to me, I've expressed it. I'm

509
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Speaker 7: willing to do that. But again, the best way is

510
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Speaker 7: to force the DOJ to release those names on those

511
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Speaker 7: three or two forms.

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Speaker 2: And I just can't give enough credit to both Rocnam

513
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Speaker 2: but Thomas Massey. I mean, he is taking so much

514
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Speaker 2: incoming from President from Apak over his unwillingness to sign

515
00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:27,040
Speaker 2: on to these like ZENA speech codes. He was I

516
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Speaker 2: don't know if he saw this video floating around. He

517
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Speaker 2: was back in Kentucky at an Olden County which is

518
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Speaker 2: like a suburb of Louisville Republican Party event, and he

519
00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:38,320
Speaker 2: was speaking and he was saying, you know some just

520
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Speaker 2: very basic things about how he doesn't serve you know,

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Speaker 2: at any one party, he serves the people of the

522
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Speaker 2: country and may bold his mic from him. So you know,

523
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Speaker 2: clearly he has really touched a nerve and the fact

524
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Speaker 2: that he's a Republican and he has a large following too,

525
00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:56,920
Speaker 2: and like a lot of you know, credibility, and I

526
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Speaker 2: think people like myself who don't agree with him on

527
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Speaker 2: any number of his it was like we're night and

528
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Speaker 2: day when it comes to economics, for example. You have

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Speaker 2: to respect this man and his integrity because he is

530
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Speaker 2: truly risk you, risking it all here to push for

531
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Speaker 2: the truth and to push for more transparency.

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Speaker 1: Very rare breed.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, rare breed in Washington, and yeah, I mean I've

534
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Speaker 3: come you have disagreed with him plenty plenty times in

535
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Speaker 3: the past, but on this it's just it's unbelievable to

536
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Speaker 3: see somebody's stand and you know, really, this is what

537
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Speaker 3: the house is for. You need an ilhan Omar, you

538
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Speaker 3: need a Thomas Massey. That's what the house is designed for,

539
00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:31,919
Speaker 3: is to you know, have the actual full spectrum, and

540
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Speaker 3: they end up sometimes being our best members.

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Speaker 1: So there you go.

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Speaker 3: All right, let's get to the next part here, this

543
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Speaker 3: is about Glaine Maxwell and her relationship with the Clintons.

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Speaker 3: Let's put this up here on the screen. Epstein files

545
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Speaker 3: reveal scope of Glaine Maxwell's role in the Clinton circle

546
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Speaker 3: and specifically raising some one million dollars for the Clinton

547
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Speaker 3: Global Initiative, and they specifically say that she took part

548
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Speaker 3: in the budget discussions related to the first CGI conference,

549
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Speaker 3: talked through challenges with both Clinton Aids, the company that

550
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Speaker 3: produced the inaugural event, and arranged to wire a million

551
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Speaker 3: dollars quote for the work on the Clinton project. The

552
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Speaker 3: source of the money is unclear, including whether mister Epstein

553
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Speaker 3: provided the funds. However, the email show that he was

554
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Speaker 3: aware of the payment. Epstein at one point wrote to

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Speaker 3: her quote ask him to tell you why I million

556
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Speaker 3: now and where it will be going? So maybe it

557
00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:27,479
Speaker 3: was his money, wasn't it. All of this is took

558
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Speaker 3: involvement took place in two thousand and four before the

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Speaker 3: six indictment, but it shows how deeply and I mean,

560
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Speaker 3: remember this is a woman invited literally to the Clinton

561
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Speaker 3: wedding in that infamous photo, and how deeply she was

562
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Speaker 3: enmessed with the Clinton family, who after you know, they

563
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Speaker 3: lose the White House, or after they lose in two

564
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Speaker 3: thousand or I get sorry, not lose, but.

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Speaker 1: They leave the White House.

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Speaker 3: They're obsessed with one thing, how do I become generationally

567
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Speaker 3: wealthy as quickly as humanly possible and whitewash my image

568
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Speaker 3: from the Lewinsky scandal.

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Speaker 1: So what do they do?

570
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Speaker 3: Hillary runs for Senate, She becomes the carpetbager and chief

571
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Speaker 3: from New York. And Bill, who moves to New York,

572
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Speaker 3: is like, I'm gonna double down on all this humanitarian

573
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Speaker 3: work with my Clinton Global Initiative. Except the Clinton Global

574
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Speaker 3: Initiative I covered so much of this during the Clinton

575
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Speaker 3: campaign becomes a slush fund basically for the Hillary administration

576
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Speaker 3: and waiting wiring tens of millions of dollars from across

577
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Speaker 3: the globe. In many cases, you know, different governments are

578
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Speaker 3: sending them money expressly to set up meetings with Hillary

579
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Speaker 3: because she was the former secretary of State. She's going

580
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Speaker 3: to become, you know, potentially the next president, which is

581
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Speaker 3: what everybody thought back in twenty sixteen. And Clinton himself

582
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Speaker 3: also used it as a reputational machine which he can

583
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Speaker 3: fly across the world private, you know, in jets for

584
00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:42,960
Speaker 3: the rest of his life basically for humanitarian work. Glenn

585
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Speaker 3: Maxwell Epstein very critical nodes in all of that, sourcing

586
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Speaker 3: sketchy money, that's what they do. So this just proves

587
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Speaker 3: already the depth of the relationship, which of course we

588
00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:53,800
Speaker 3: did know that, but it's pretty amazing to see Epstein

589
00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:55,840
Speaker 3: there being like, yeah, ask him, you know, tell them,

590
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Speaker 3: ask him to tell you why I'm sending you a

591
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Speaker 3: million dollars, Like that's crazy, crazy stuff.

592
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Speaker 4: It's interesting in all of this.

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Speaker 2: I mean, clearly Glaine was really on the inside with

594
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Speaker 2: the Clintons, yes, and Epstein recognized obviously that this is

595
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:11,760
Speaker 2: another powerful, you know, note of power that he wants

596
00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:14,680
Speaker 2: to be in with and so, you know, the CGI

597
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:19,000
Speaker 2: money and fostering this relationship appears to have been a

598
00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:23,800
Speaker 2: strategic play from him, unsurprisingly. And you know, the other

599
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:26,760
Speaker 2: thing that's interesting in this reporting is that and again

600
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:28,560
Speaker 2: this is not surprising, but it's interesting to see it

601
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Speaker 2: lay down. Bill Clinton saw Davos in how much influence

602
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Speaker 2: it had and how powerful it was and what a

603
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:38,200
Speaker 2: brand builder it was, and he was like, ah, that's

604
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Speaker 2: what I want to do. I want to do my

605
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:43,600
Speaker 2: own version of Davos with like you know, liberal more

606
00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:47,960
Speaker 2: overtly liberal humanitarian bent rather than Davos is focused around

607
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:49,960
Speaker 2: like business elites exclusively.

608
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Speaker 4: Is like, let me do that.

609
00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:53,720
Speaker 2: I'll have the business elites, but I'll also have like

610
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:57,240
Speaker 2: the global humanitarian class as well. And so that's really

611
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Speaker 2: the birth of the Clinton Global Initiative. So not only

612
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:03,760
Speaker 2: do they want to amass money, but they also wanted

613
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Speaker 2: to amass power and be the central node in this

614
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Speaker 2: sort of like global influence network that.

615
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Speaker 4: Was that was the whole thing.

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Speaker 2: So of course Jeffrey Epstein's going to want to get

617
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Speaker 2: involved with that, right, He's like, this is my this

618
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 2: is my whole bag, this is what I do. Let

619
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Speaker 2: me see how I can get myself involved here.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 2: The other thing to keep in mind is like Soccer

622
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Speaker 2: was saying, you know Galane being there at Chelsea's wedding,

623
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Speaker 2: and weren't Hillary and Bill at Trump and Milania's wedding

624
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:34,440
Speaker 2: as well. Yeah, Like in Avanka and Chelsea were friends.

625
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:38,040
Speaker 2: You know, we think of them as these bitter rivals.

626
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:41,240
Speaker 2: They were in the same social circles. They were going

627
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:44,280
Speaker 2: to each other's events, supporting each other's thing, going to

628
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 2: each other's weddings.

629
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Speaker 4: Et cetera.

630
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Speaker 2: They are all part of the same class, the Epstein class,

631
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Speaker 2: and Ryan.

632
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 4: Ryan was saying, like, in some.

633
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Speaker 2: Ways, the class solidarity of the of the billionaires and

634
00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:58,200
Speaker 2: the global elites, it's rather inspiring.

635
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Speaker 3: You know.

636
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:00,840
Speaker 2: They really, they really are there for each other. They

637
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 2: really have this Titanit network. And I think that's important

638
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 2: for all of us to keep in mind. And that

639
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:10,240
Speaker 2: came out very clearly in this recent Trump comment where

640
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:12,560
Speaker 2: he gets asked about Bill Clinton. Now, the backstory here

641
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 2: is Clinton has been subpoena to come testify before Congress.

642
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:20,960
Speaker 2: Initially he was saying, no, I'm not going to do it,

643
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Speaker 2: and you know, I guess was willing to risk jail

644
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 2: time the way Steve Bannon went to prison for, you know,

645
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:29,080
Speaker 2: refusing to appear in spite of being subpoena. He has

646
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:31,440
Speaker 2: now changed his mind, and we can put this up

647
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:34,040
Speaker 2: on the screen and say, okay, fine, I will testify.

648
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 4: And he says, here, I have called for the full

649
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Speaker 4: release of.

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Speaker 2: Abstein Vias, I've provided a sworn statement of what I

651
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 2: know just this week. I've agreed to appear in person

652
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Speaker 2: before the committee. Still not enough for Republicans on the

653
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Speaker 2: House Oversight Committee. He goes on to say now Chairman

654
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Speaker 2: Comer says he wants cameras, but only behind closed doors.

655
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Speaker 2: Who benefits from this arrangement. It's not Epstein's victims who

656
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:54,480
Speaker 2: deserve justice, not the public who deserve the truth. Serves

657
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:56,560
Speaker 2: only parties and interests. This is not fact finding. It's

658
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Speaker 2: pure politics. I will not said idly as they use

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Speaker 2: me as a pro in a closed door kangaroo court

660
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Speaker 2: by Republican party running scared if they want answers, Let's

661
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:05,800
Speaker 2: stop the games and do this the right way, in

662
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 2: a public hearing where the American people can see for

663
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:09,080
Speaker 2: themselves what this is really about.

664
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Speaker 4: So Bill Clinton is.

665
00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:14,800
Speaker 2: Set to testify, you know, after having been subpoenut and

666
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 2: again Clinton Trump, same circles, you know, same contacts, et

667
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:23,200
Speaker 2: CETERA big question what Bill might be able to say

668
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:26,080
Speaker 2: about Trump and his associates and what exactly is going

669
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:28,000
Speaker 2: on with this whole Epstein situation.

670
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Speaker 4: And so now when Trump gets asked about Bill Clinton,

671
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:32,160
Speaker 4: about Hillary Clinton.

672
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:35,280
Speaker 2: Suddenly you know they're good people, actually, actually really really

673
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:36,160
Speaker 2: kind of like these guys.

674
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Speaker 4: Le's take a little bit of that.

675
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Speaker 8: It bothers me that somebody's going after Bill Clinton. See,

676
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 8: I like Bill Clinton. I still like, Bill, What do

677
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 8: you like about him? I like, well, I liked his

678
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:50,920
Speaker 8: behavior toward me. I thought he got me, he understood me.

679
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:53,400
Speaker 4: I like Bill Clinton.

680
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 2: He understood me. He says Hillary, He's just a very

681
00:30:55,360 --> 00:31:01,479
Speaker 2: accomplished woman. Ultimately, you know, very different. When he got

682
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 2: asked about Gallaide Maxwell in the first administration, he said,

683
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:05,920
Speaker 2: you know what, I wish her well.

684
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 3: Well, first of all, I do want to say I

685
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 3: support Bill Clinton for public publicly testifying.

686
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 1: I support that one hundred percent.

687
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:13,840
Speaker 3: Let's let's do it with the camera, and there's nothing

688
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 3: better to see Bill.

689
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:15,960
Speaker 1: Look, he's smart.

690
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 3: You know, he's a wiley, wiley Fox. He had plenty

691
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:21,960
Speaker 3: of Lewinsky dodging and White.

692
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:23,240
Speaker 1: What was that scandal? White?

693
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:23,600
Speaker 3: Is it?

694
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 1: Whitewater Man? It's a throwback. It's been the Rose Law firm.

695
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:30,000
Speaker 3: Google it just if you want to go and relive

696
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 3: some of the nineteen nineties. But the whole point with

697
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 3: the Clintons, obviously is that I'm glad that they're going

698
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:38,720
Speaker 3: to testify publicly, and ultimately it's nice that they are

699
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:41,480
Speaker 3: being forced to actually actually have to come and answer

700
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:43,320
Speaker 3: some questions. But you know, the bigger point is it

701
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 3: reminds me that George Carlin quote like it's a big

702
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:47,480
Speaker 3: club and you're not in it, and that's really what

703
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 3: it is actually all about. And it's right that famous

704
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:53,720
Speaker 3: photo of George W. Bush in that selfie with Michelle Obama,

705
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 3: and they're like kindness. I'm like, no, there's nothing cool

706
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:58,960
Speaker 3: about that. Yeah, like sorry, no, actually like Bush, no,

707
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:01,920
Speaker 3: there's we don't. We don't do that with people like

708
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:03,800
Speaker 3: George Ry Bush or And this is why the whole

709
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 3: Dick Cheney thing bothered me. I'm like, they're like, oh,

710
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 3: he died a hero. I'm like, oh, because he stood

711
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 3: up to Trump. I'm like, oh, he's to die a hero. Really,

712
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 3: I guess it's been long enough. I could speak ill

713
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:14,080
Speaker 3: of the dead if you remember whatever we had to

714
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:16,000
Speaker 3: react to his death. We're like, well, you know, yeah,

715
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:18,120
Speaker 3: he's dead. Okay, but yeah, And that's how I feel

716
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 3: about Dick Cheney. That's how I feel about Fauci. They're like,

717
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 3: there's like a small list of people who I'm like, no,

718
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 3: fuck you till the day he died, Like I literally

719
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:27,000
Speaker 3: don't care about you at all. Well you shouldn't, you know,

720
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 3: be resuscitating your image or any of them.

721
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:32,480
Speaker 4: No, George W. Bush absolutely not, absolutely not.

722
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 2: And again to you know George, the Bushes and the

723
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 2: Trump supposedly this bitter rivalries. I mean remember Bill Barr,

724
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:43,640
Speaker 2: who is Attorney General at the time that Epstein dies.

725
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:47,720
Speaker 2: He also served in the H. W. Bush administration, Like

726
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:50,480
Speaker 2: that's where he comes from. And his dad, of course,

727
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:53,240
Speaker 2: famously is the one who hires Jeffrey Epstein at the

728
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 2: Dalton School in spite of the fact that Epstein had

729
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 2: no qualifications to be put in, you know, in that

730
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:02,520
Speaker 2: position at this very prestigious school. Donald Barrows, so I

731
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:06,480
Speaker 2: wrote a very strange oh I know, try sci fi

732
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 2: book about you know, some like sex slave, enterprise, etc.

733
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 2: As You can go look that one up too, if

734
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 2: you really want to go super down the rabbit hole.

735
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 2: But in any case, so much more connectivity and so

736
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:21,200
Speaker 2: much more shared interests between all of these people than

737
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 2: the enmity that they like to portray publicly, very very true.

738
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 1: All right, let's continue. This one is so wild.

739
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 3: So I had known and we Ryan did a story

740
00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 3: about the Rothschild relationship with Epstein, obviously significantly important just

741
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:36,680
Speaker 3: because it was one of the most powerful banking houses

742
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:39,080
Speaker 3: in all of Europe. Long of course, you know, been

743
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:41,240
Speaker 3: connected to the rise and fall so many of the

744
00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 3: power brokers on the continent, but with their relationship with

745
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 3: Epstein was not only deeper, but directly tied to our

746
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 3: own country in our government. Let's put this up here

747
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:51,600
Speaker 3: on the screen. I had no idea about this. It

748
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 3: says how the House of Rothschild became entangled with Epstein.

749
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:58,760
Speaker 3: What they specifically point to is that back in twenty fifteen,

750
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:02,880
Speaker 3: in December, months of turmoil, the Swiss private bank owned

751
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 3: by the Rothschild dynasty was closing in on a multi

752
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:09,680
Speaker 3: million dollar settlement with the US Department of Justice for

753
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 3: its part in helping rich Americans hide their assets. Behind

754
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 3: the scenes, the group's French chief, Ariandi Rothschild had tasked

755
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 3: Jeffrey Epstein and the lawyer he had introduced her to,

756
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:23,880
Speaker 3: Kathy Rummler, who you will all remember former Obama Whitehouse

757
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 3: official Deputy White House Chief Council, with closing the deal.

758
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:31,279
Speaker 3: Here's how the exchange went. Forty five mio. Question mark,

759
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:34,720
Speaker 3: as we casually throw around these numbers, Rothschild asked Epstein

760
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:37,839
Speaker 3: in December twenty fifteen. He replied, counting a ten million

761
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 3: dollar fee for the lawyers and twenty five million for

762
00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 3: him a quote, I think you will find all less

763
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:48,720
Speaker 3: than eighty pretty good, she responds, deep thanks for your help.

764
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:53,880
Speaker 3: Days later this gets announced. The Department of Justice literally

765
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:58,680
Speaker 3: just days later, puts out this announcement saying Justice Department

766
00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:02,239
Speaker 3: announces joint resolution with two banks under the Swiss Bank Program.

767
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:05,560
Speaker 3: The Department of Justice announced today that Edmond de Rothschild

768
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:09,760
Speaker 3: and Edmond de Rothschild SA have joint reached a joint

769
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 3: resolution under the Department's Swiss Bank Program. Eder Switzerland will

770
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:17,319
Speaker 3: pay a penalty of more than forty five million, make

771
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:20,320
Speaker 3: a complete disclosure of the cross border activities, et cetera.

772
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 3: There is no public reporting at the time to indicate

773
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:26,520
Speaker 3: Epstein's role, but you will remember here we now have

774
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 3: a deal broker by a private Swiss bank, the Roschald

775
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 3: I mean literally one of the richest families in the

776
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:35,200
Speaker 3: history of Europe, who is working with Jeffrey Epstein days

777
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:39,080
Speaker 3: before and pays him twenty five million dollars potentially for

778
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:41,239
Speaker 3: what reason, not just Kathy Rumler, but maybe for the

779
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 3: connection finder's fee, some sort of influence where he is

780
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:47,440
Speaker 3: able to negotiate this deal on behalf of this bank

781
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:49,919
Speaker 3: and the US Department of Justice to the point where

782
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:51,799
Speaker 3: you can all see it and go back and read

783
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 3: there's no mention of him.

784
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 1: What role did he play? Who did he call?

785
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 3: I mean that if anything shows the extent of influence

786
00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 3: that is that, right, there is true influence a private

787
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 3: Swiss bank, the richest, some of the richest people in

788
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:07,360
Speaker 3: Europe who call you and they're like, hey, man, twenty

789
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:09,319
Speaker 3: five twenty five million for what? For a forty five

790
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 3: million dollars settlement there's announced, but you got to be

791
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:14,719
Speaker 3: pulling some serious strings to merit more than half of

792
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 3: what the overall settlement is going to be, on top

793
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:20,239
Speaker 3: of the legal fees which are already factoring for this.

794
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:23,399
Speaker 3: What were they paying for? Nobody knows, Yeah, nobody knows.

795
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:26,400
Speaker 3: But it was announced just like they said, cool, forty

796
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:28,520
Speaker 3: five mil. Exactly what he was saying, forty five mil.

797
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 3: This is how it's going to go. I can make

798
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:32,800
Speaker 3: make sure this all happened. I'm assuming you don't just

799
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:35,200
Speaker 3: get paid somebody twenty five million dollars for nothing. So

800
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:37,879
Speaker 3: that is a very very significant one shows his level

801
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 3: of influence. Seriously, like what who did he call and

802
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:43,239
Speaker 3: what was he able to do to secure something like this,

803
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:45,359
Speaker 3: because they'll pay anything to make something like that call.

804
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:45,880
Speaker 4: Yeah.

805
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:49,279
Speaker 2: Absolutely, And you know, you look at these emails, you

806
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:53,319
Speaker 2: see elaborate communication with Arianna de Rothschild. You know, they

807
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:56,040
Speaker 2: clearly have a very friendly relationship or she's downplaying, the

808
00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:57,840
Speaker 2: bank is downplaying at this point et Saturday.

809
00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:00,920
Speaker 4: You can read their statements, but were really chumming.

810
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:02,839
Speaker 2: You know, she was asking for advice on all kinds

811
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:06,480
Speaker 2: of personal messy matters that were going on within the family,

812
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:09,360
Speaker 2: and he's there as the like sounding board and you know,

813
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:12,520
Speaker 2: reliable friend for her to you know, bounce ideas off of,

814
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:15,320
Speaker 2: et cetera, and then is involved in this very direct,

815
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:19,040
Speaker 2: extremely significant, important way. I just saw this one that

816
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 2: just Murtaza Hussein just pulled up that it looks like

817
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:28,240
Speaker 2: Epstein may have met with MBS three days before Jamal

818
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:29,280
Speaker 2: Kashogi was murdered.

819
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:29,880
Speaker 1: Wow.

820
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:32,120
Speaker 2: And then we also had those other emails where he

821
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:34,319
Speaker 2: was talking about it and he was oh, I think

822
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:36,440
Speaker 2: those were were those with Bannon. I think where he

823
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:38,920
Speaker 2: was texting back and forth in that particular exchange where

824
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:41,960
Speaker 2: he's talking about his theories about what happened there, you know,

825
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:44,279
Speaker 2: And that's another question that you have inside knowledge on

826
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:46,960
Speaker 2: that one as well. But you just can see all

827
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:50,279
Speaker 2: of these connections with the most powerful people in the

828
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:53,919
Speaker 2: entire world. And you can also see from his communications

829
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 2: for example, with you know, with Peter Teel and with others,

830
00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 2: and how they sort of view the world as just

831
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 2: their play thing to exploit, you know, with Libya, like, oh,

832
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 2: let's you know, I think there's all kinds of money

833
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 2: that can be had there, and talking about how the

834
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:10,880
Speaker 2: most financially profitable thing for them is global collapse and

835
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:13,919
Speaker 2: chaos and war and that that's you know, what they're

836
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 2: what they actively hope for and wish for. I mean,

837
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:18,440
Speaker 2: you just see the way that they view things and

838
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:21,200
Speaker 2: how he ends up somehow ends up in connection with

839
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:23,839
Speaker 2: all of these really powerful people at all these extraordinary

840
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:26,239
Speaker 2: moments in history. And you know, with this one with

841
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:31,279
Speaker 2: the Rothschilds, why it's so significant is because he directly

842
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:34,840
Speaker 2: appears to have had a hand in exactly what this

843
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 2: settlement looked like down to the dollar amount, so it

844
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:42,400
Speaker 2: is completely wild. One more here, let's put a fifteen

845
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 2: up on the screen. You guys will recall because we

846
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:47,359
Speaker 2: played it for you before. Howard Latnik Oh my god.

847
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 2: I met my wife and I met Epstein, our next

848
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:52,719
Speaker 2: door neighbor in New York City one time, and we

849
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:56,759
Speaker 2: were so disgusted that we said we will never have

850
00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 2: anything to do with him whatsoever.

851
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:00,719
Speaker 4: He lied.

852
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:04,319
Speaker 2: I mean, there's just blatant, blatant lie. Now, I guess

853
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 2: the best. Your baby forgot all of these interactions that

854
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 2: he had with Epstein over the years. But let me

855
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:12,640
Speaker 2: go ahead and read this from the New York Times.

856
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:15,440
Speaker 2: How we are latink. President Trump's billionaire commerce secretary interacted with

857
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:18,920
Speaker 2: the sex offender Jeffrey Epstein regularly over.

858
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:21,760
Speaker 4: At least thirteen years while they lived.

859
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 2: Next door to one another on Manhattan's Upper East Side.

860
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:28,000
Speaker 2: They invested in the same privately held company together. Okay,

861
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 2: so they were not just casual. They happened to mean

862
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:32,359
Speaker 2: the same social circles. No, I mean there was that too,

863
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:37,280
Speaker 2: but they literally were business partners. You think that escaped

864
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:40,400
Speaker 2: his memory. He just forgot about that little detail with

865
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:43,160
Speaker 2: regards to his relationship with Jeffrey Epstein. Then it goes

866
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 2: on to say they dealt with one another on neighborhood

867
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:49,160
Speaker 2: and philanthropic issues and appear to have socialized in New

868
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:52,480
Speaker 2: York and in the Caribbean. The record show mister Epstein

869
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:55,840
Speaker 2: at one point even sought to meet with mister Lutnix Nanny.

870
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 2: The records directly contradict mister lutnix assertion on a podcast

871
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:02,400
Speaker 2: last year he had been so disgusted by mister Epstein

872
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:04,440
Speaker 2: during a two thousand and five visit to his townhouse

873
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 2: that mister Lutnick had never set foot in a room

874
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 2: with mister Epstein again. Quote So, I was never in

875
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:14,640
Speaker 2: the room with him socially, for business or even philanthropy,

876
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:17,279
Speaker 2: mister Lutnick said in an interview on the podcast pod

877
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 2: Force one reached Bristly by phone last week, mister Lutnix said,

878
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:25,719
Speaker 2: I spent zero time with him. In any functioning society,

879
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:29,160
Speaker 2: this man would be fired. He would resign in disgrace,

880
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:34,560
Speaker 2: caught brazenly in a lie around this criminal pedophile, sex trafficker,

881
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:38,240
Speaker 2: and he would never be heard from again in public life.

882
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:43,080
Speaker 2: That's what a functioning society would look like. Instead, we

883
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:45,839
Speaker 2: know he will bear no price for this, There will

884
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:49,080
Speaker 2: be no problem. If anything, his associations with Epstein helped

885
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:53,160
Speaker 2: him get the gig. If anything, right, So, the fact

886
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 2: that we now know dead to rights. This man was

887
00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:58,919
Speaker 2: lying to our face in the most shameless way. We'll

888
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:03,279
Speaker 2: have zero, zero consequence for him and his future true actor.

889
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 3: Yes that is I mean not only do I agree,

890
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 3: but look again at the UK government and how they're

891
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 3: I mean, Kirre Starmer, a labor leader this morning, is

892
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:14,279
Speaker 3: calling for him to resign over the Epstein scandal. The

893
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:16,920
Speaker 3: Mandlsit thing has blown up their government. I saw that

894
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:20,160
Speaker 3: a Norwegian senior official was removed because of her links

895
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:20,640
Speaker 3: to EPs.

896
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:22,719
Speaker 1: I mean, these way less.

897
00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:24,480
Speaker 3: Than what we're talking about here with Lutnik, right, because

898
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 3: these people are just embarrassed by what happened. They didn't

899
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:29,720
Speaker 3: come out and say, oh I never saw him again,

900
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:32,120
Speaker 3: and then you have all of these negotiations behind the

901
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:34,920
Speaker 3: scenes of the fact that he is a neighbor, which

902
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:37,360
Speaker 3: it already had raised questions. I had found an email

903
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:40,440
Speaker 3: where Epstein wanted to hire Lutnix Butler or something like

904
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:42,640
Speaker 3: that from back in the day, and I was like, oh, well,

905
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:45,360
Speaker 3: you know, okay, can't you couldn't prove whether any of

906
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:46,759
Speaker 3: that happened. We know you put it all together, and

907
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:48,200
Speaker 3: you're like, of course they knew each other. They knew

908
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:50,360
Speaker 3: each other very very well, which just goes to the

909
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:52,359
Speaker 3: point about how it's a big club. None of us

910
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:54,840
Speaker 3: are in it. We can now just tiny glimpse into

911
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:56,800
Speaker 3: how power and all of that operates.

912
00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 1: If you have enough.

913
00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 3: Money, people will look the other way, or they'll actively participate,

914
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:03,400
Speaker 3: or they'll have knowledge and just you know, kind of

915
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:07,120
Speaker 3: be quiet about it as it's all an internal protection club.

916
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:08,920
Speaker 3: You can be a genius when in fact, all you're

917
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 3: really doing is insider trading. You know, that's one thing

918
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:13,439
Speaker 3: for the Epstein defenders. Prove to me how he made

919
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:15,280
Speaker 3: his money. Proved to me how he made his money?

920
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:18,400
Speaker 3: Was he really really good at what he did? Find

921
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:22,799
Speaker 3: me a great financial Find me like, who's the guy

922
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:26,279
Speaker 3: who we cover renaissance whom I can't Jim Simon right,

923
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:30,399
Speaker 3: a Jim Simon figure or Ray Dalio to sit down

924
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:32,280
Speaker 3: and be like, here's why he was a master trader.

925
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 1: Nobody said any of that. Nothing. He was just a criminal.

926
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:38,880
Speaker 3: That's it, period blackmail and then put you know, insider

927
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:41,879
Speaker 3: trading and social connections, that's it. That's all it took

928
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:43,759
Speaker 3: to make all these billions. And then you know, the

929
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:45,360
Speaker 3: bigger question is like where did all the money go?

930
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:48,000
Speaker 3: Who is a wired to And remember there's literally over

931
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 3: a billion dollars in suspicious activity reports sitting in the

932
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 3: US Department of Treasury right now, which is yet to

933
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:55,480
Speaker 3: be released. Ye, that's where the real stuff is.

934
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 2: And that insider trading nexus seems like the easiest place

935
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:00,440
Speaker 2: actually where you could get cutions.

936
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:03,160
Speaker 4: And I think that's going right in the UK for sure.

937
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:06,359
Speaker 2: And the last thing I want to say is we

938
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:10,680
Speaker 2: don't talk as much about the Epstein ranch in New Mexico,

939
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 2: and it appears they never rated it, they never investigated there,

940
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:18,960
Speaker 2: even though we know from you know, significant reporting and

941
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 2: more details added through this latest release that he wanted

942
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 2: to use that ranch as this sort of like you know,

943
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:30,800
Speaker 2: as has spread his seed eugenics breeding ground project.

944
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:32,440
Speaker 4: That was what he wanted to do.

945
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:34,719
Speaker 2: Now did he accomplish that, and who was involved and

946
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:37,080
Speaker 2: was it, you know, Bika, was it consensual or was

947
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:38,840
Speaker 2: any of this against their will, et cetera.

948
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:41,080
Speaker 4: We're never going to probably know.

949
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:43,000
Speaker 2: And the other thing is he had connections in the

950
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 2: same way that he you know, paid off a bunch

951
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:47,760
Speaker 2: of Virgin Island politicians to be able to do whatever

952
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 2: he wanted on his private island. He also was deeply

953
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:55,279
Speaker 2: enmeshed with a number of New Mexico politicians, including the

954
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 2: former governor. So you know, I think that angle has

955
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:03,400
Speaker 2: been wildly you know, invisibilized and unexplored as well. So

956
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:07,400
Speaker 2: it's just, I mean, it's sick. What else can you say?

957
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:09,560
Speaker 2: And you see the way that it operated as there

958
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 2: was this sort of like mutually assured destruction among all

959
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:17,480
Speaker 2: these powerful people, and that's how they sort of built

960
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:19,399
Speaker 2: these I mean, it's sick, but that's how they built

961
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:23,479
Speaker 2: these relationships of trust. Is like I know, you can't leave,

962
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:26,359
Speaker 2: you can't blow the whistle because I know you know

963
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:28,239
Speaker 2: what I did and I know what you did, and

964
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:31,920
Speaker 2: you know. And Epstein seems to have been a master

965
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:35,280
Speaker 2: at manipulation. You know, in so many of these communications,

966
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 2: whether it's with business partners or world leaders or with

967
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:43,480
Speaker 2: you know, girls or women that he's exploiting. The emotional

968
00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:47,239
Speaker 2: blackmail and manipulation is very clear in his communications. So

969
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:50,080
Speaker 2: he seems to have been a master of manipulating this

970
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 2: you know, elite power circle that he was one one

971
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:52,920
Speaker 2: note of.

972
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 3: All right, let's get to Iran. Speaking of elite power circles.

973
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 3: Turning now to the stitchuation, with Iran. Things fast moving

974
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:05,279
Speaker 3: here in Washington, some potential signs of a deal, though

975
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:07,440
Speaker 3: Trump really all over the place. He was asked about

976
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:10,360
Speaker 3: it aboard Air Force one. Here's the latest about talks,

977
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 3: as Benjamin that and Yahoo is heading to the White House.

978
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:13,400
Speaker 3: Let's take a listen.

979
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:18,360
Speaker 5: We likewise had very good talks on Iran. Iran looks

980
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:20,360
Speaker 5: like it wants to make a deal very badly. We

981
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:22,520
Speaker 5: have to see what that deal is. But I think

982
00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 5: Iran looks like they want to make a deal very badly,

983
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:29,239
Speaker 5: as they should. Last time they decided maybe not to

984
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:31,560
Speaker 5: do it, but I think they probably feel different they

985
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 5: We'll see what the deal is. It it'd be different

986
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 5: than the last time. And we have a big armada.

987
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:41,439
Speaker 5: We have a big fleet heading in that direction, would

988
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 5: be there pretty soon, So we'll see how that works

989
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:45,480
Speaker 5: out with Iran.

990
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:48,040
Speaker 7: Is there a deal that early covers nuclea that would

991
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:50,239
Speaker 7: be acceptable to you, because they don't. They just want

992
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:50,840
Speaker 7: to have nucula.

993
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 5: They don't want to have anything else like it would

994
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:55,720
Speaker 5: be acceptable, but the one thing, and right up front,

995
00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:59,719
Speaker 5: no nuclear weapons. If we could have made that deal

996
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 5: years ago, we would have made that deal, but they

997
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:04,359
Speaker 5: weren't willing to do that. Now they are willing to

998
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:06,920
Speaker 5: do it. So they're willing to do much more than

999
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:10,400
Speaker 5: they would have a year and a half ago, or

1000
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:11,080
Speaker 5: even a year ago.

1001
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:12,080
Speaker 2: We don't forget.

1002
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:15,480
Speaker 5: We've only been doing this or exactly one year, and

1003
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:18,560
Speaker 5: we started with them a few months after the beginning

1004
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:25,399
Speaker 5: of the sturb has been amazing, but the results could

1005
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:30,319
Speaker 5: surprise people. If they would have offered this deal originally

1006
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:33,640
Speaker 5: when we first started, they would have been accepted immediately.

1007
00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:34,719
Speaker 5: We'll see what happens then.

1008
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:38,600
Speaker 3: So somewhat positive signs there from the President about talks

1009
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 3: with Iran, very good talks. They want to make a

1010
00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 3: deal if they present whatever they basically did present this,

1011
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:45,920
Speaker 3: but we can move past that if it means that

1012
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:48,640
Speaker 3: there is some deal that won't be had. However, we

1013
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:51,440
Speaker 3: will know from the Iranian side that the talks in

1014
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 3: Oman were quote, exclusively nuclear. The Iranians are trying to

1015
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:57,439
Speaker 3: make it clear we will talk nuclear all day long.

1016
00:46:57,680 --> 00:46:59,480
Speaker 1: The Supreme Leader has his fatua.

1017
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:02,920
Speaker 3: However, we're not talking ballistic missiles period, and the reason

1018
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:05,560
Speaker 3: why is because that's our regional security turrent against the

1019
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:08,400
Speaker 3: State of Israel. Well, who happens to hear this and

1020
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:11,160
Speaker 3: immediately calls to President and says I need to come

1021
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:12,600
Speaker 3: and see you immediately.

1022
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:14,640
Speaker 1: Benjamin net Yahoo. Let's put this.

1023
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:16,840
Speaker 3: Up here on the screen from the Times of Israel.

1024
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:20,439
Speaker 3: Netson Yahoo to meet Trump in Washington Wednesday, says US

1025
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:24,440
Speaker 3: Iran talks must deal with the Iran's missiles and proxy.

1026
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:27,520
Speaker 3: President Benjamin Netan Yahoo will fly to Washington this week

1027
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:29,759
Speaker 3: to meet with President Trump on Iran. The meeting will

1028
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:30,760
Speaker 3: take place on Wednesday.

1029
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:31,160
Speaker 1: Quote.

1030
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 3: The Prime Minister believes that any negotiations must include restrictions

1031
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:37,120
Speaker 3: on ballistic missiles and an end to support for the

1032
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:40,839
Speaker 3: Iranian axis, indicating concerns about the progress of the US

1033
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:44,520
Speaker 3: Iran talks thus far. The US and Iran talks that

1034
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:47,840
Speaker 3: happened last week were immediately met with great alarm in

1035
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:51,479
Speaker 3: Tel Aviv because they want are in Jerusalem, sorry, which

1036
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:53,680
Speaker 3: they're What they want, of course, is for the talks

1037
00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:55,880
Speaker 3: not to happen at all and for the US to

1038
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:58,880
Speaker 3: progress to war. Now here's what's really stunning about these

1039
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:01,960
Speaker 3: Netson Yaho is a dirigionally already supposed to be here

1040
00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:05,160
Speaker 3: nine days from now next week for the APAC Summit,

1041
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:07,480
Speaker 3: which is happening here in Washington. But the meeting was

1042
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:11,640
Speaker 3: then moved a week earlier at the Premier's request, specifically

1043
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:15,240
Speaker 3: to try and to derail this deal and to say

1044
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:18,319
Speaker 3: any meeting has got to involve these ballistic missiles. Put

1045
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:20,840
Speaker 3: B three up here on the screen confirming more of

1046
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:24,239
Speaker 3: this from Barackravid. And what he talks about here is

1047
00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:26,840
Speaker 3: that the announcement of the urgent visit comes after the

1048
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:31,040
Speaker 3: Trump Steve wick Coffin Jared Kushner negotiations NOMAN and specifically

1049
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:34,759
Speaker 3: that they're very concerned about anything that might actually deal

1050
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:37,960
Speaker 3: with a new clear element that does not address at

1051
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:40,719
Speaker 3: all any of these regional security measures. So you can

1052
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:43,480
Speaker 3: see very very clearly here to the extent that America

1053
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:47,319
Speaker 3: has any problems with Iran, it is regional in terms

1054
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:50,759
Speaker 3: of its threat to our bases, which seems manageable if

1055
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:51,920
Speaker 3: you don't attack them too.

1056
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:53,239
Speaker 1: But okay, so there's that.

1057
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:56,040
Speaker 3: And then second is a nuclear weapon which would be

1058
00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:59,520
Speaker 3: capable of hitting the continental United States, like something that

1059
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:03,080
Speaker 3: Northreea has developed. The theory the regional ballistic missile threat

1060
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:06,880
Speaker 3: is a serious and existential threat only to one country, Israel,

1061
00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:09,919
Speaker 3: And so they're saying any deal you do must take

1062
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:13,719
Speaker 3: our existential security threats as seriously as you take your

1063
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:17,240
Speaker 3: existential security threats, and they're basically it's the most classic

1064
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:20,600
Speaker 3: tail wagging the dog situation in terms of power disparity,

1065
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:22,799
Speaker 3: in terms of I mean, in terms of everything that

1066
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:25,239
Speaker 3: could possibly exist. And yet it has a very very

1067
00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:27,799
Speaker 3: high chance of succeeding because he has succeeded at every

1068
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:30,719
Speaker 3: term in twisting and turning Trump to whatever direction that

1069
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:31,400
Speaker 3: he wants to go.

1070
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:33,279
Speaker 2: Not only that, but you also have people inside of

1071
00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:36,360
Speaker 2: the administration who are putching in the same direction. And

1072
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:38,120
Speaker 2: then you have Trump who's kind of like put his

1073
00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:41,080
Speaker 2: ego on the line, as he did as well with Venezuela.

1074
00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:43,920
Speaker 2: And the problem with the deal that's only nuclear, I

1075
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:46,200
Speaker 2: mean he you know, for all of the talk about

1076
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:48,000
Speaker 2: the Iranians are so hard line and they would never

1077
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:49,880
Speaker 2: give up this with that like we literally had a

1078
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:52,720
Speaker 2: deal under the Obama administration, they're clearly willing to negotiate

1079
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:54,919
Speaker 2: a deal that they stayed in after we got out.

1080
00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:58,279
Speaker 2: So the problem with that for Trump is, you know,

1081
00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:01,840
Speaker 2: people like nat Yaho and others innistration that want a

1082
00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:04,160
Speaker 2: that want a war and want some sort of regime

1083
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:06,239
Speaker 2: change or regime collapse and say, oh, you're going to

1084
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:08,279
Speaker 2: just do the go back and do the Obama deal.

1085
00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:10,520
Speaker 2: It has to They'll push for it to be somehow

1086
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:13,359
Speaker 2: significantly different. And of course the ballistic missiles are an

1087
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:16,520
Speaker 2: absolute red line for the Iranians. I mean, which I

1088
00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:20,759
Speaker 2: completely understand, Like you're going to leave yourself completely defenseless

1089
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:23,880
Speaker 2: when you have these absolute psychos who are bent on

1090
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Speaker 2: your destruction in the region like you would be, you

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Speaker 2: would be crazy to agree to that. There's another Times

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Speaker 2: of visual piece this morning. We don't have an element

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Speaker 2: for this, but they say Iran agan rules out giving

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Speaker 2: up Uranian enrichment, suggests us not taking talks seriously. This

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Speaker 2: is the Iranian Foreign Minister A bass Agrocci on Sunday

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Speaker 2: rule out Tehran ever giving up Uranian and richment and

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Speaker 2: its negotiates this with Washington. Insisting will not be intimidated

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Speaker 2: by the threat of war. He told a forum in Tehran,

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Speaker 2: Why do we insist so much on your enrichment and

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Speaker 2: refuse to give it up even if war is imposed

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Speaker 2: on us? Because no one has the right to dictate

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Speaker 2: our behavior, he goes on. Their military employment in the

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Speaker 2: region does not scare us. He referred to the build

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Speaker 2: up of US forces. And then they go on to

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Speaker 2: talk about some of the background here, and he says

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Speaker 2: they fear our atomic bomb will we are not looking

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Speaker 2: for one. Our atomic bomb is the power to say

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Speaker 2: no to the great powers. So, I mean that's all

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00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:21,120
Speaker 2: very rational calculus on their part. For all the talk

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Speaker 2: of how they're so you know, crazy and irrational and

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00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:27,680
Speaker 2: out of control, the approach has been very rational given

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Speaker 2: the landscape that we and Israel have created for them.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, let's put B four up there on the screen.

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Speaker 3: And this is some of the danger here about reverting

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Speaker 3: to diplomacy. But the road is narrow, and what treats

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Speaker 3: a Parsi flagged for all of us in this article.

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Speaker 3: But also, you know, more importantly, like really, whenever you

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Speaker 3: dig into a lot of this is that there are

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00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:50,600
Speaker 3: some serious problems whenever it comes to the path that

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Speaker 3: he has now had. So like what they say is

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00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:55,759
Speaker 3: that the quote, there's a strong view on the Iranian

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00:51:55,840 --> 00:52:00,320
Speaker 3: side that Trump has an excessive and exaggerated view of iranikness.

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Speaker 3: If diplomacy is to work, many Iranians believe a short,

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Speaker 3: intense war may be necessary to correct a Trump's perception

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Speaker 3: and compel him to adopt more realistic demands even if

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Speaker 3: they take large losses. So will the Americans and the

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00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:18,000
Speaker 3: Israelis and quote Trump has less tolerance for losses or

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Speaker 3: for a protracted war. So that part of I mean

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Speaker 3: vindicating for their current strategy. So for example, per what

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Speaker 3: he was telling us is that there was apparently a back.

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Speaker 1: Channel from Washington after the protests.

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Speaker 3: And they're like, hey, we need to do another strike,

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Speaker 3: token strike, you token strike back, and the Iranians were like, nope.

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Speaker 1: If you strike, it's on. And what happened, Oh, the

1135
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Speaker 1: carrier all of.

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Speaker 3: A sudden has to be brought from the South China

1137
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Speaker 3: see ce seventeen's all the way across the Middle East,

1138
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Speaker 3: bases on high alert. And for a second there we're like,

1139
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Speaker 3: oh my god, this is this could be a real problem.

1140
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Speaker 1: And what did he do?

1141
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Speaker 3: He backed off and we ended up having talks. They

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Speaker 3: cancel the talks, they put him back on off. It

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Speaker 3: all happened in a three day period. You can watch

1144
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:01,200
Speaker 3: our show from last week if you're interested. But the

1145
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:03,520
Speaker 3: point remains that we're actually kind of afraid of a

1146
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Speaker 3: full blown conflict because what we win. Yeah, obviously, but

1147
00:53:06,719 --> 00:53:08,719
Speaker 3: that's not. I mean, what does winning mean? Did we

1148
00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:10,600
Speaker 3: win the war in Vietnam? We killed more of them,

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00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:13,040
Speaker 3: That doesn't mean we won. We've killed more Taliban than

1150
00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:14,960
Speaker 3: they ever killed of us, doesn't mean that we won.

1151
00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:17,839
Speaker 1: Same in Iraq. Right, So the point remains.

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00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 2: We win the war with the Hoho thiast even theoretically, yeah, right, Yeah,

1153
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Speaker 2: we killed a lot of them.

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Speaker 1: Right, Does that mean that we want no?

1155
00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:27,600
Speaker 3: Right, because there's a difference between strategic and tactical victory. Well,

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00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:29,960
Speaker 3: here you go, the exact same situation playing out with

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Speaker 3: the Iranians that they know. They're like, look, yes, we

1158
00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:34,839
Speaker 3: will lose, for sure, many of our people will die.

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Speaker 1: It's a diabolical strategy.

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Speaker 3: However, we can destroy the price of oil with the

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Speaker 3: straits of horn moves, and we could probably kill a

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Speaker 3: decent number of you, and we could definitely kill a

1163
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Speaker 3: decent number of Israelis. So if that's what you want

1164
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Speaker 3: to do, then let's go and both. You know, maybe

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Speaker 3: the Israelis will sign up for that bargain, maybe as

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Speaker 3: long as big Brother America is there to support all

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Speaker 3: of them. Do really any of us have a tolerance

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Speaker 3: for a single loss of American life in a theoretical

1169
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Speaker 3: problem for israel security. I don't I guys to zero

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Speaker 3: tolerance for yeah, and I'm thinking that there are a

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Speaker 3: lot of other people out there.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, there has been very little effort to build up

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00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:10,640
Speaker 2: any sort of or manufacture any sort of consent around

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Speaker 2: this theoretical war.

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Speaker 4: I mean, they just haven't really bothered.

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Speaker 2: They just don't see it as necessary to get buy

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Speaker 2: and really from the American public, We've had all sorts

1178
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Speaker 2: of shifting explanations for why we should be so concerned

1179
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Speaker 2: about Iran, most of them built on a pack of lies.

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Speaker 4: Let's go and put B five up on the screen.

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00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:28,080
Speaker 2: Treat as actual quote that was there in the New

1182
00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:30,400
Speaker 2: York Times article, he says. I told the New York

1183
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:33,120
Speaker 2: Times there is a strong view on the Iranian side

1184
00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:36,360
Speaker 2: that Trump has an excessive and exaggerated view of Iranian weakness.

1185
00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:39,400
Speaker 2: If diplomacy is to work, these Iranians believe a short,

1186
00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:42,759
Speaker 2: intense war may be necessary to correct Trump's perception and

1187
00:54:42,760 --> 00:54:45,160
Speaker 2: compel them to adopt more realistic demands. Even if Iran

1188
00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:47,319
Speaker 2: takes large losses in such a war, so with so

1189
00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:50,400
Speaker 2: will the Americans and Israelis. And Trump has less tolerance

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Speaker 2: for losses or a protracted war. I mean that seems

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00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:57,080
Speaker 2: entirely logical to me in terms of the you know,

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Speaker 2: what the Iranians are likely thinking and the calculation that

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Speaker 2: they have made, because in the past, the calculus calculation

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Speaker 2: they made is basically like, yeah, we'll do this choreography

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Speaker 2: with you. We'll do the stance, right. Okay, you want

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Speaker 2: to strike our nuclear facilities, you do that, and we're

1197
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Speaker 2: going to we have to retaliate, but we're going to

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Speaker 2: do it in a more limited and coordinated fashion that

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Speaker 2: you can manage and that you know that allows you

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Speaker 2: to get your defenses in place. And what happened that

1201
00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:27,240
Speaker 2: it did not deter us at all. What Trump learned

1202
00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:30,120
Speaker 2: from that is, oh, when I need a quick ego boast,

1203
00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:32,359
Speaker 2: I can go and mess with the your audience, right

1204
00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:34,640
Speaker 2: and get another get another win on the board at

1205
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Speaker 2: a time when you know, his approval ratings, seer tanking,

1206
00:55:37,160 --> 00:55:39,480
Speaker 2: economy shit and all kinds of you know, everybody's revolting

1207
00:55:39,560 --> 00:55:42,560
Speaker 2: against the ice assaults and all of that. Right, So

1208
00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:45,720
Speaker 2: that's what he took from that, and so they realized like, okay,

1209
00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:48,520
Speaker 2: well that was apparently not the way to get them

1210
00:55:48,520 --> 00:55:49,480
Speaker 2: to leave us alone.

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Speaker 4: So we're going to have to take a harder line.

1212
00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:53,520
Speaker 2: So when Trump, you know, when they threw this back

1213
00:55:53,600 --> 00:55:55,319
Speaker 2: channel reach out and like, hey, let's do a little

1214
00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:57,600
Speaker 2: bit like of a fake pretend war here so Trump

1215
00:55:57,680 --> 00:56:00,600
Speaker 2: can have his ego stroking, They're like, no, we're not

1216
00:56:00,640 --> 00:56:03,920
Speaker 2: playing along this time. We have to take a different approach.

1217
00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:07,400
Speaker 2: And you know, that's why this is. This is a

1218
00:56:07,520 --> 00:56:13,640
Speaker 2: very dangerous situation. And I find it hard to imagine that.

1219
00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:15,880
Speaker 2: And again I have no idea what the timing will be.

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Speaker 1: I have it.

1221
00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:19,120
Speaker 2: I find it very hard to imagine with all of

1222
00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:22,560
Speaker 2: the forces within the administration, and with net and Yahoo pushing,

1223
00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:25,279
Speaker 2: and with Trump having backed himself once again into a

1224
00:56:25,280 --> 00:56:27,920
Speaker 2: bit of a corner here with regard to his own ego,

1225
00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:30,520
Speaker 2: that we are just going to sort of put this

1226
00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:33,680
Speaker 2: all aside and pretend it never happened and move forward

1227
00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:35,160
Speaker 2: without any more kinetic action.

1228
00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:37,479
Speaker 3: That's very very true, all right, last thing I wanted

1229
00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:39,680
Speaker 3: to put B six. Let's put that up there on

1230
00:56:39,719 --> 00:56:42,799
Speaker 3: the screen. Trump's this was very subtle. By the way,

1231
00:56:43,160 --> 00:56:46,759
Speaker 3: wick Koff and Kushner visited a US aircraft carrier immediately

1232
00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:49,200
Speaker 3: after the talks. Just so everybody knows in terms of

1233
00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:52,080
Speaker 3: what they're trying to signal to the Iranians too, about

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Speaker 3: what's coming potentially your way, which again I don't think

1235
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Speaker 3: that they're all that.

1236
00:56:55,840 --> 00:56:56,400
Speaker 1: I think they know.

1237
00:56:56,560 --> 00:56:58,840
Speaker 3: I think they know that they will take probably what

1238
00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:01,560
Speaker 3: tens of thousands of losses if there was going to

1239
00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:05,080
Speaker 3: be any sort of conflict. Fortunately, they just don't seem

1240
00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:07,200
Speaker 3: to care, which, you know, it is diabolical and they

1241
00:57:07,239 --> 00:57:09,960
Speaker 3: may be right, but that's look, it's tragic, like it's

1242
00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:11,520
Speaker 3: one of those things where let's not find out. How

1243
00:57:11,560 --> 00:57:13,319
Speaker 3: about we just avoid it, you know, for for all

1244
00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:15,520
Speaker 3: of our sakes. But apparently that's not the way that

1245
00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:17,440
Speaker 3: people want to think. Okay, let's get to Trump