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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast What I'm Back In, Hour number two,

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Speaker 1: Wednesday Edition. Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all

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Speaker 1: of you hanging out with us. Encourage you to go

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Speaker 1: download the podcast. Make sure you don't miss a single

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Speaker 1: minute the show. Maybe you missed the first hour just

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Speaker 1: hanging out with us. To start the second hour, we

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Speaker 1: talked a lot about the failed recall of Governor Gavin Newsom,

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Speaker 1: whether he might be now one of the people who's

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Speaker 1: willing to challenge Kamala Harris going forward in the Democratic

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Speaker 1: Party in the event that Joe Biden is not running

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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty four, which I think most of us

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Speaker 1: would anticipate will be the case. We also have been

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Speaker 1: talking a lot about General Millie in his back channel

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Speaker 1: conversations with China and whether or not that might be

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Speaker 1: treason us, whether it might be a form of espionage,

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Speaker 1: whether he might and should be subject to court martial

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Speaker 1: for defying the orders potentially or telling China that he

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Speaker 1: would defy the orders of the commander in chief at

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Speaker 1: the time, President Donald Trump. And what is amazing here

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Speaker 1: is how many people are lining up to make the

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Speaker 1: argument that this makes General Milly heroic, and in fact,

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Speaker 1: many people are arguing that he's protecting democracy. And I

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Speaker 1: just want to continue to hammer this home because I

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Speaker 1: think it's significant, and Buck, you know this better than

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Speaker 1: almost anybody having worked in the intelligence agencies the United States.

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Speaker 1: The reason why our commander in chief is a civilian

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Speaker 1: is to avoid exactly this from happening, to avoid the

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Speaker 1: military being able to take control of a democratically elected

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Speaker 1: president's decision making. And it is a challenge and a

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Speaker 1: difference in the way that things are organized for someone

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Speaker 1: who oftentimes has never served in the military. Bill Clinton

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Speaker 1: never served in the military. Barack Obama never served in

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Speaker 1: the military. Donald Trump never served in the military. There

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Speaker 1: are lots of our leaders who have not been in

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Speaker 1: the military, and so we want a civilian commander in

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Speaker 1: chief to send the message that the military is always

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Speaker 1: subject to the will of a democratically elected president, that

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Speaker 1: the military serves the people, not the military's generals. And

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Speaker 1: in a hierarchical system where you have direct response authority

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Speaker 1: easily spiral into a coup like situation, which has happened

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Speaker 1: all around the world. When a high level general decides

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Speaker 1: to do what I think is best right, that is

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Speaker 1: a fundamental attack upon democracy itself. There's a reason why

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Speaker 1: coups don't usually happen based on the head of the

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Speaker 1: education department or the sanitation department. Right, the guy who's

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Speaker 1: in charge of the Grandma is going to the capital

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Speaker 1: to take selfies. It's yeah, but you know there's a

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Speaker 1: reason why, historic and otherwise it's the guys who have

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Speaker 1: control over the people with the guns. We all know this,

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Speaker 1: which is why what you're talking about is so essential,

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Speaker 1: so important. But this reflexive partisanship on an issue that

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Speaker 1: you would think maybe would break through somewhat beyond that

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Speaker 1: is fascinating because I remember, it's not Clay. They don't

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Speaker 1: feel the need to defend General really so much that

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Speaker 1: defending General Milly. They are praising and honoring him for

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Speaker 1: this right. So it's not enough to say the guy

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Speaker 1: let's not blow it out of proportion. No, it's the

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Speaker 1: person who did the underhanded thing against Trump, who betrayed

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Speaker 1: the then commander in chiefs trust, is a hero. As

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Speaker 1: we've been discussed that, yeah, and that's going that's the

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Speaker 1: gaslighting part of this. And even further than that, Buck

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Speaker 1: Claire McCaskill said he was trying to defend democracy, which

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Speaker 1: is actually turning on its head the entire purpose of

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Speaker 1: And she should know better as a former senator. And

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Speaker 1: that's why I'm going to tee off here listening to

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Speaker 1: of shocked to Marco Rubio that our top general was

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Speaker 1: calling to defend democracy, as Joe said, to an undemocratic

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Speaker 1: leader in the world, to make sure that a war

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Speaker 1: What does Trump say, fire him for treason? I mean,

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Speaker 1: this is really something that these people are still following

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Speaker 1: constitution in the rule of black She really needs down, Buck,

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Speaker 1: she needs some yoga. I mean, she needs to calm down.

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Speaker 1: There's something really it's it's discomfiting. It's it's uncomfortable to

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Speaker 1: It's divorced from what it's observable truth. What was this

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Speaker 1: we're seeing this all happen. What was the big problem

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Speaker 1: lot that's unresolved for people about actually how they feel

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Speaker 1: the votes were counted and not counted, etc. But war

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Speaker 1: out of their county in Georgia, which by the way,

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Speaker 1: we're not supposed to talk about that. How does that

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Speaker 1: equate to invading China or you know, missile strikes on Beijing.

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Speaker 1: This is lunacy. This is not joy Reid who somehow

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Speaker 1: same argument on MSNBC and Buck he's a former Republican congressman.

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Speaker 1: can take advantage of the United States of America. Democracy

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Speaker 1: can be chaotic, but we're strong, we're solid, we're in

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Speaker 1: good shape. Nothing's going to happen. We're not going to

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, this is some Republicans don't like this. This

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Speaker 1: Don't take advantage of it. No solid, He leaves out

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Speaker 1: which is a pretty big part here too, we're going

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Speaker 1: to subvert the chain of command on a direct order basis.

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Speaker 1: And also the war that you're for some reason worried

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Speaker 1: saying that that's absurd, that's laughable. Of course that's not

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Speaker 1: gonna happen. Of course Trump's not going to start a

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Speaker 1: war with China. The whole thing is crazy town. But

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Speaker 1: just a version of they want to burn the village

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Speaker 1: it came to undermining our institutions of government, remember that

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Speaker 1: was the big talking point. Yeah, they're undermining our institutions

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Speaker 1: community working with journalists to surveil the Trump presidential campaign

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Speaker 1: and then continue that with FAISA into the actual or

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Speaker 1: these things. That was all subverting the system, the will

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Speaker 1: But they would talk about how they were saving the system, Clay,

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Speaker 1: they saved the system by destroy they prop up the

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Speaker 1: chain of command by undermining it. I mean, people abuse

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Speaker 1: the term Orwellian a lot. You know, war is peace,

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Speaker 1: though Trump's we just saw us with Gavin Us, Trump's

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Speaker 1: So clearly this happened. We all know that this happened,

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Speaker 1: I mean, you're mentioned that you mentioned Clare mccaskell and

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Speaker 1: in nineteen eighty seven. YadA, YadA, YadA. Trump putin collusion, right,

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Speaker 1: you just say what, this is what you do night

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Speaker 1: a Rhodes scholar, So I mean, which is scarier scarier

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Speaker 1: And she's like, why would I care about the Nacatomi Towers?

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Speaker 1: And I was like, well, you know, die Hard. It's like,

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Speaker 1: the guy who went on to be Professor Snape. For

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Speaker 1: those of you who are being Harry Potter fans or

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Speaker 1: the girls that you're dating, Alan Rickman actually died. He

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Speaker 1: actually died a few years ago. But we were going

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Speaker 1: to dodge the fact that you have to now explain

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Speaker 1: who Alan Rickman is to the girls that you're dating

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Speaker 1: by saying he was Snape in Harry Potter as opposed

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Speaker 1: to the bad guy and die HARDY can neither confirm

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Speaker 1: nor deny any of this information and not sure that

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Speaker 1: you were read into this compartment of this program, sir,

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Speaker 1: all right, So this is why I was gonna tea.

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Speaker 1: We got into this because of the Nicki Minaj. This

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Speaker 1: is actually a funny COVID story. So Nicki Minaj and

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Speaker 1: I'm not making this up. This this singer, she tweeted

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Speaker 1: went viral, massive discussion. Everybody's angry at Nicki Nicki Minaj,

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Speaker 1: including doctor Fauci, who still, by the way, hasn't responded

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Speaker 1: was on CNN, and this is an exasperated doctor Anthony

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Speaker 1: Fauci talking about Nicki Minaj's cousin's friend swollen testicles as

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Speaker 1: it pertains to the COVID vaccine. Enjoy well, Enjoy, I

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Speaker 1: think we got it. We have enjoy. It's cut thirteen.

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Speaker 1: There we go. That was quite a leading answer to

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Speaker 1: that is a resounding no. There's no evidence that it happens,

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Speaker 1: nor is there any mechanistic reason to imagine that it

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Speaker 1: would happen. So the answer to your question is no.

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Speaker 1: These kinds of claims, which you know, may be you know,

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Speaker 1: innocent on her part. I'm not, you know, blaming her

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Speaker 1: for anything, but she should be thinking twice about propagating

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Speaker 1: information that really has no basis as accept a one

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Speaker 1: off anecdote, and that's not what science is all about.

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Speaker 1: Can either confirm nor deny allegations of a swollen testicular

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Speaker 1: nature based on the data and all we'll say here

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Speaker 1: Mickey Manaj versus doctor Faucci. I think Mickey Manaj interviewed,

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Speaker 1: did she intervit interviewed Joe? I didn't. I think she

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Speaker 1: has just just to be clear for everybody here, Clay,

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Speaker 1: you know, you tweet a lot, right, I tweet a

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Speaker 1: fair amount. You tweet more often than I do. Nicki

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Speaker 1: Minaj has almost twenty three million Twitter followers. Yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: pretty fair. So when she puts out the the swollen

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Speaker 1: amount of traction. And didn't she also say there was

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Speaker 1: a fertility issue for the guy, right? Maybe? Yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: implied by the h you know themore Yeah, yeah, exactly issue. Look,

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Speaker 1: fair to say Nicki Minaj is not, although she was.

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Speaker 1: As she was raising a question, she didn't say don't

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Speaker 1: get the shot. She just said asking, you know, if

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Speaker 1: figure it out, you know to do it. And remember,

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Speaker 1: you know, there are a lot of people that want

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Speaker 1: they're just told shut up and do it. But but Clay,

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Speaker 1: if you are a Trump supporter or associated with the

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Speaker 1: right in any way, your hesitancy to get the shot

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Speaker 1: is reckless and you're killing people. If you are a

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Speaker 1: Democrat party, it's always more. Oh, but you have real

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Speaker 1: reasons for concern or not trusting the government, or this

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Speaker 1: was the Trump vaccine and it's his fault or whatever.

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Speaker 1: They change the blame depending on what your politics are,

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Speaker 1: because that's how much this has become politicized. Oh, there's

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Speaker 1: no doubt. No. Yeah, But I do love the idea

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Speaker 1: of Fauci going head to head with Nicki Minaj in

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm just wondering if we could ever get

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Speaker 1: him to come on this show. Though, Clay, we could

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Speaker 1: do you could do the interview with doctor Fauci right now,

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Speaker 1: you ask me a question. It would just you know,

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Speaker 1: I am science, I am data. I look at the

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Speaker 1: science and the data. You just bore you to tears

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Speaker 1: at CNN, he's like he's like a psychological safety blanket

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Speaker 1: They just think he's like the old, you know, krusty

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Speaker 1: I don't know, we'll see, you know. They think that

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Speaker 1: an insurrection, who follows the rule of law, has complete

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Speaker 1: the president of the United States, and the leader of

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Speaker 1: their party fermented an insurrection, and many of them were silent. Oh,

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Speaker 1: the insurrection it's the answer for everything, isn't it. Oh,

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Speaker 1: you had a general who was subverting a chain of

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Speaker 1: command and telling the Chinese military that he give them

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Speaker 1: a heads up before the attack that no one actually

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Speaker 1: thought was coming. Whatever, He's not the insurrectionist, I mean,

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Speaker 1: is General Millie Kwannon Shaman? I think not. Therefore he

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Speaker 1: should suffer no consequences. That's basically what you get from

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Speaker 1: Jenn Saki. Welcome back to Clay and Buck Show. And

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Speaker 1: you know Jen Saki. For me, sometimes it starts to

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Speaker 1: sound a bit like is it the mom in Charlie Brown?

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Speaker 1: That's like, Wow, I know what she's gonna say before

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Speaker 1: she says it. It's all very it's all very predictable.

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Speaker 1: And here exactly the same thing. Notice every time democrats

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Speaker 1: get cornered on one of their own or someone on

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Speaker 1: their side, the movie is going to be but Trump

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Speaker 1: or but the insurrection, and that will not change over

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Speaker 1: the next couple of years. I mean, unless something else

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Speaker 1: crazy happens, but those will always be Look, I think Clay,

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Speaker 1: I think that but Trump might have been a major

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Speaker 1: factor in Gavin Newsom not only keeping his job but

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Speaker 1: keeping it by a pretty clear margin. Yeah. I don't

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Speaker 1: think there's any doubt that the Republican Party, the Democrats believe,

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Speaker 1: is unable to win with Donald Trump. There's obviously many

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Speaker 1: people in the Republican Party who disagree, many people who

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Speaker 1: are listening to us right now. Gets the base fired up, right,

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Speaker 1: it gets the Democrat base fired up. But the Democratic

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Speaker 1: base believes that Trump is Satan. And that's why whether

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Speaker 1: it's General Millie, whether it is it really doesn't matter

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Speaker 1: who the person is. As long as you are anti Trump.

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Speaker 1: It's effectively a get out of jail free card. And

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's coincidental that the conversation on General

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Speaker 1: million is in common pudence has totally vanished surrounding Afghanistan. Remember,

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Speaker 1: wasn't too long ago Jensaki was getting questions does anybody

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Speaker 1: gonna resign? Are there going to be any consequences for

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Speaker 1: the abject failure that came out of Afghanistan. And now

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Speaker 1: Millie suddenly has all these bona fides because he stood

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Speaker 1: up to Donald Trump, even if he was subverting the

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Speaker 1: station of command, the constitution, everything else. Is it amazing

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Speaker 1: when you look at what the what the standard is

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Speaker 1: under the Biden administration. Giveaway Bagram Air Base, don't resign,

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Speaker 1: leave Americans behind in cobble at the at the mercy

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Speaker 1: of the Taliban, Leave you know, Afghan SIV holders behind.

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Speaker 1: Don't resign buildings of dollars in material sen send senior

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Speaker 1: citizens into nursing homes to die by the thousands that

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Speaker 1: likely would not have otherwise because of COVID positivity, because

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Speaker 1: of a terrible executive order. Don't resign say some things

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Speaker 1: to women that makes them uncomfortable in the workplace. Oh

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Speaker 1: you're gone? Is the Democrat Party of I mean, obviously

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Speaker 1: you're referring to Cuomo here, unless you're Joe Biden, and

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Speaker 1: then it's like, oh, it never happened, aka terror Reid.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it really is amazing the sort of crazy

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Speaker 1: limbo that Democrats have to apply to put standards in

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Speaker 1: place that somehow protect all of their people as long

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Speaker 1: as they're valuable. Right, If Cuomo was still valuable, he

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Speaker 1: wouldn't have gotten crossed out for sexual harassment. Right. They

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Speaker 1: just cast him off the boat because they're like, this

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Speaker 1: guy's deadweight, let's get rid of him. And if they

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Speaker 1: were actually needing him, if he was running for president,

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Speaker 1: this story would have vanished. And yet we see the standard, right, massive,

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Speaker 1: massive blunder that actually affects the American people and has

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Speaker 1: consequences that everybody can see and understand that. You're fine

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Speaker 1: as long as the Democrats still need you. But you

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Speaker 1: offend the wokeness gods, and you may find yourself getting

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Speaker 1: a resignation. No one I think involved in the Afghanistan

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Speaker 1: boaccle is going to resign. Let's get to Kathy in Connecticut.

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Speaker 1: You's got an interesting point you wanted to make. I'm

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Speaker 1: wanting to get her in here, Kathy, welcome, Hi guys.

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Speaker 1: I always remember the Democrats accuse Republicans every day of

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Speaker 1: what day the Democrats are guilty of. Yes, it's amazing.

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Speaker 1: Worried about Trump being crazy? Joe Biden, we know he's

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Speaker 1: compromised by China. He's the one that might have Alzheimers.

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Speaker 1: He had two brain aneurysms. See, they blamed Trump to

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Speaker 1: cover up for Biden, and there must be a special

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Speaker 1: counsel or a special prosecutor to investigate Biden and Millie.

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Speaker 1: You know, Kathy, it's a great point. They thank you

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Speaker 1: so much, Kathy about the special counsel. By the way, Clay,

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Speaker 1: notice Trump administration, Mueller's special counsel, Bush administration, Valerie Plame,

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Speaker 1: Scooter Libby, you know, special counsel. They weaponize that statute.

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Speaker 1: Where are our special count Oh we don't have them

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Speaker 1: for the last twenty years. That Isn't that a shock?

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Speaker 1: It's almost like we play all nicey nice, and they

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Speaker 1: play with a two by four to our face. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: we got Rand Paul joined us here in a second, Clay,

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Speaker 1: what are you excited to talk to him about? Two things?

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Speaker 1: One gain of function and his continued hammering of doctor

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Speaker 1: Fauci over that, and then amazing questioning yesterday of Secretary

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Speaker 1: of State Anthony B. Lincoln over this drone attack that

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Speaker 1: appears to have killed an Ncent man and seven kids.

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Speaker 1: Pretty significant stories there. I think we're gonna hammer Rand

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Speaker 1: Paul for both of those and give him applause for

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Speaker 1: handling those as well as he did. Senator Paul from

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Speaker 1: Kentucky coming up in a few minutes. Stick around, you're

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Speaker 1: listening to Clay Travis, said buck Sexton fund the EIB

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Speaker 1: Network