Speaker 1: Cut booms.
Speaker 2: If you thought four hours a day, twelve hundred minutes
Speaker 2: a week was enough, think again. He's the last remnants
Speaker 2: of the old republic, a sol fashion of fairness. He
Speaker 2: treats crackheads in the ghetto cutter the same as the
Speaker 2: rich pill poppers in the penthouse. Wow to clearing House
Speaker 2: of hot takes, break free for something special. The Fifth
Speaker 2: Hour with Ben Maller starts right now.
Speaker 1: In the air everywhere, The Fifth Hour with me, Big
Speaker 1: Ben and sitting in the chair to my right, hypothetically
Speaker 1: speaking of course through the magic audio communications, is not
Speaker 1: Danny g He's off this weekend, but in his place
Speaker 1: Alex the Vegan Alex Tyshert, beloved Fox Sports radio personality
Speaker 1: behind the scenes, but also on the air. You chime
Speaker 1: in from time to time, right, you know, just hide
Speaker 1: out behind the scenes, behind the buttons. More than that,
Speaker 1: you're a podcaster, You're a renaissance man, and you're my
Speaker 1: number one go to guy when Danny can't do the podcast.
Speaker 1: Oh more poorly, what an honored Ben.
Speaker 3: You know, some would say young casanova too of late,
Speaker 3: because you know, young budding spring love has turned into
Speaker 3: summer fire. So it's been a good time. But as
Speaker 3: for the yes, that has been a big venture of
Speaker 3: mine for the last six months.
Speaker 1: Ben, I have heard stories in the hallways. Really, things
Speaker 1: are going very well for you in the off the
Speaker 1: air department. Yeah, things in the real world, things are
Speaker 1: going very well for you. You're you're racking up a
Speaker 1: lot of miles, though.
Speaker 3: From what I understand, so many too many, Yes, a
Speaker 3: lot of miles.
Speaker 1: You gotta cut the gap on that. But other than that,
Speaker 1: it's all good for you.
Speaker 3: I'm happy for you, Thank you, Ben, And I'm honored
Speaker 3: and privileged to also be somebody that you would like
Speaker 3: to sit in with you because I know Danny g
Speaker 3: does a great job. But at the same time, Ben,
Speaker 3: I know you and I like to get deeper and
Speaker 3: kind of more volumptuous when it comes to certain type
Speaker 3: of topics and conversations. And I'll give you kind of
Speaker 3: the youth perspective as I'm really plugged into the social
Speaker 3: media aspect content creation. So it's kind of like a
Speaker 3: good mix between you and I'd say.
Speaker 1: And see and you just gave me like a backhandy
Speaker 1: compliment calling me an old deezer, and you did, I mean,
Speaker 1: that was an indirect shot. That was a gut punch,
Speaker 1: is what that was. That I mean, I'm still talking
Speaker 1: about athletes who have not aged. By the way, I
Speaker 1: want you to know, when I started in radio, I
Speaker 1: was talking about athletes who are all between the ages
Speaker 1: of like I don't know, eighteen and you know forty,
Speaker 1: and the athletes are still between eighteen and forty. They
Speaker 1: just happened to be the kids of the people that
Speaker 1: I used to talk about when I started this nonsense
Speaker 1: back in the day. So it's the circle of life, Alex.
Speaker 1: You're gonna be there, man, before you know it. You're
Speaker 1: gonna be there. It's true, gonna be in my position.
Speaker 1: You're gonna wake up one morning and say, wait a minute,
Speaker 1: I remember that per Wait that's the son of so
Speaker 1: and so, the daughter of so and so. Wait a minute.
Speaker 3: Yes, I will say Ben, in defense, I did say
Speaker 3: Danny g because he's not here, so I'll take shots.
Speaker 3: But I would you feel free? Yes, you were ageless, Ben.
Speaker 3: Your your voice lives on through the eternity of the
Speaker 3: microphones and through the infinitive waves in the world.
Speaker 1: So you are eternal. You are ageless.
Speaker 3: It was more so just saying I think it's nice
Speaker 3: to have somebody from like that content creation TikTok side.
Speaker 1: That's all I was trying to say. I understand and clearly,
Speaker 1: and I'm not on TikTok. It's not my world, it's
Speaker 1: not my domain. I cut it off after. I think
Speaker 1: Instagram was the last really social media that I signed
Speaker 1: up for you. I'm on Facebook, Instagram, not back in
Speaker 1: the old days. I'm obviously X. But I was on
Speaker 1: in the old days. It was it was, it was
Speaker 1: the original. It was my Space, my Space. Yeah, do
Speaker 1: you remember your top eight?
Speaker 2: Ben?
Speaker 1: I do not. I blocked all that out. Remember. I
Speaker 1: used to work with a woman Karen karen Ka who
Speaker 1: she had a drop that my Space is huge, you
Speaker 1: know like that. We used to play around on that.
Speaker 1: Back in the day. I was on I'm so old.
Speaker 1: I was on America Online. What is that a stop? Oh?
Speaker 1: That was the original Internet. They owned the Internet. Dial up, right,
Speaker 1: was not the radio. Yeah, it was dial up. You
Speaker 1: had to wait for the thing to connect. It was
Speaker 1: always slow. And then they had chat rooms and and
Speaker 1: they had like news sites, but it was all in
Speaker 1: their world. It was on their own ecosystem, and they
Speaker 1: used to send out these things called CDs. I don't
Speaker 1: know if you know CDSDS, Compact dish, yes, yes, And
Speaker 1: they used to send those out and there used to
Speaker 1: be these things called newspapers, and sometimes they would even
Speaker 1: include them in newspapers stop because they would get people
Speaker 1: to sign up. And they owned the Internet and then
Speaker 1: somehow they screwed it up and they blew it. Well,
Speaker 1: I'm not sure how exactly they blew it. I'm sure
Speaker 1: there's been a documentary made it about it or something
Speaker 1: like that. But they at one point controlled the market
Speaker 1: share of the Internet and then it all of a
Speaker 1: sudden went away. It's it's kind of like that whole
Speaker 1: Blockbuster video things. Video controlled the rental department, yes, the
Speaker 1: rental space, as the cool people like to say, and
Speaker 1: then that that all went away.
Speaker 3: Ben, I still remember Blockbuster being a kid, going with
Speaker 3: my parents on Friday nights and you'd have to wait
Speaker 3: in line and rush to the aisle to hopefully there
Speaker 3: was one disc left or the VHS's I remember those two. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I still remember that, Ben, And you'd have to wait, maybe.
Speaker 1: Like Sunday, somebody was going one of them, and you'd
Speaker 1: get it on like a Sunday night or something like that.
Speaker 3: I was so smooth, Ben, I would make friends with
Speaker 3: people that work there to have them tell me the
Speaker 3: most return day to go at that time too, just
Speaker 3: to make sure I got a copy.
Speaker 1: So that's a little insider trade. Yes, that is what
Speaker 1: that is. That's thinking long and hard about how to
Speaker 1: get the proper video. Now, did you buy any food?
Speaker 1: They had the the popcorn movie, like a buttered popcorn
Speaker 1: thing that you had to make at home. Of course,
Speaker 1: of the microwave and candy, which was overpriced hoster video
Speaker 1: back in the day. But yeah, it's like the same concept.
Speaker 1: They the famous story they could have purchased Netflix early
Speaker 1: on and taken away a competitor, and they chose not
Speaker 1: to do it. They dismissed Netflix, and now Netflix is
Speaker 1: still Every time I drive into the Mothership, I drive
Speaker 1: through Hollywood, and I'm not sure if you come that way,
Speaker 1: you probably don't, But I go by the Netflix building.
Speaker 1: Oh wys is right off? I think sunset? Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: Hollywood in a massive, massive building right near the old Arby's.
Speaker 3: Yes, Ben, isn't it crazy to think about the transition
Speaker 3: of things like you're saying about just going to a
Speaker 3: place to rent a movie. Now you can download stream
Speaker 3: all of them. And we had I'm sure you remember
Speaker 3: this too. Remember red Box popped off for a little bit.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, they do.
Speaker 3: That was the transition. That was like the next step
Speaker 3: to downloading at home because they were like, well, rather
Speaker 3: than going into Blockbuster and waiting, just go to a
Speaker 3: grocery store.
Speaker 1: There's a box. You can just get a disc and go.
Speaker 3: I still remember Ben, I still remember people, and I'm
Speaker 3: sure you remember this as a kid too. Everybody was like, oh,
Speaker 3: don't trust strangers, don't get in a car with strangers,
Speaker 3: don't talk to strangers. Now the biggest platform for transportation
Speaker 3: is Uber, where you talk.
Speaker 1: To strangers and get in a stranger's car.
Speaker 3: Like it trips me out, Like I don't know who
Speaker 3: started that, And investors were like, genius, that's gonna work,
Speaker 3: you know, like it trips me out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And we have a lot of people that listen
Speaker 1: to the show over that are driving people the airports. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: I mean just throughout Fox Sports Radio and it. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And it's like a great concept for the people at
Speaker 1: Uber because you know, you're putting a lot of wear
Speaker 1: and tear in your car, right right, And they're not.
Speaker 1: I don't think they're compensating for you. No, I did
Speaker 1: lift for a year, Ben. Do you remember that when
Speaker 1: I worked out here? Uh? Did I ever tell you
Speaker 1: about that? I don't think I remember that. Oh, God,
Speaker 1: shame on me.
Speaker 3: So when I first started here and finally had the
Speaker 3: night shift, I still had my Honda at the time,
Speaker 3: and so I was thinking about a way to make
Speaker 3: some extra side cash for I just wanted to go
Speaker 3: traveling more and do like some more National Park stuff.
Speaker 3: So I thought, how can I make some extra money
Speaker 3: still within what I'm doing here in LA. And so
Speaker 3: it kind of dawned on me. I was like, I
Speaker 3: have the Honda. As soon as I get off at eleven,
Speaker 3: why don't I just lift for a few hours in
Speaker 3: downtown LA and see what happens Ben. The people I
Speaker 3: met and the situations I got into, I don't know
Speaker 3: how somebody hasn't created a show, and I mean, like
Speaker 3: an actual television show that's based off of uber drivers
Speaker 3: at nights or the type of individuals I met, Ben
Speaker 3: from a spectrum of things. If you're conversational, have a
Speaker 3: personality or somewhat or an extrovert, and you want to
Speaker 3: make some fun money and meet some interesting people. Drive
Speaker 3: La Uber at night or lyft. It was insane. I
Speaker 3: did it for a year, Ben, it was crazy crazy.
Speaker 1: Well, there used to be you know, I'll date myself,
Speaker 1: but there used to be a show on HBO. I
Speaker 1: think it was called Taxi Fat Taxi Cab Confessions or
Speaker 1: something like that. Got you okay, anything about that? No, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was a while back, and it was the same
Speaker 1: concept where they just put cameras in taxi cabs in
Speaker 1: New York I think it was in New York and
Speaker 1: they would drive around and it was overnight and people
Speaker 1: would get in the cab from like, you know, having
Speaker 1: random hookups or whatever, from the bar or you know whatever,
Speaker 1: any life situation, and they would just spill their guts
Speaker 1: wow in the cab, talking about their life. And of
Speaker 1: course they had to get him to sign paperwork rights,
Speaker 1: but it seemed like most of the people were They
Speaker 1: must have paid them a fair amount of money. But
Speaker 1: it was a really good show. So it was good, Ryan,
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it was very entertaining.
Speaker 3: You could totally bring that back. I don't know, I
Speaker 3: know what he's doing. It like Netflix, they got money
Speaker 3: to throw at anybody. You make a joke to a
Speaker 3: CEO and a bar, they give you a special.
Speaker 1: I don't know what. They haven't tried it yet. There's
Speaker 1: your move, Alex. Come on, you're Alex Levin, You're you're
Speaker 1: a business mogul. Go into Netflix and pitch them on
Speaker 1: your idea.
Speaker 3: Ben, do this with me. Let's do this. Let's be partners.
Speaker 3: Let's pitch this idea together.
Speaker 1: All right, Well, you had you're like Vegas, La, Miami,
Speaker 1: New Orleans, because I don't think it'll work if you're
Speaker 1: in Appleton, Wisconsin, that it would work quite your same there.
Speaker 1: If you're in Omaha, Nebraska, that's true. Or Bizmarck. I
Speaker 1: don't know that. There's a lot of interest in probably
Speaker 1: not not a lot going on, kind of like where
Speaker 1: I was. I was in Hawaii, and the whole place,
Speaker 1: the whole island I was on, shuts down at eight
Speaker 1: thirty to nine o'clock. There is nothing going on after that.
Speaker 1: It is built around the daytime. Yeah, it's have you
Speaker 1: been to Hawaii.
Speaker 3: You've been Hawaii when I was younger, at like resorts
Speaker 3: and stuff, but I've never been in the towns.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So I went to the island of Kawaii. That's
Speaker 1: where the that's where the airport is. Poi poo right there.
Speaker 1: You fly in and it's such a laid back, uh situation.
Speaker 1: Everyone's just cool. They're they're on island time. Okay, when
Speaker 1: you're on island time, you're in no hurry. You don't
Speaker 1: drive fast, you don't. We we went to a restaurant.
Speaker 1: We waited an hour to get food after we ordered, yes,
Speaker 1: and it was very bad food. Food not that great.
Speaker 1: But throughout the weekend, alex I will be sprinkling in
Speaker 1: stories from my vacation. The Mallard Travelogue. We'd like to
Speaker 1: call it out in the boondocks. I like to say
Speaker 1: it's in Oceania because it is Hawaii. Is the Hawaiian
Speaker 1: Island is in Oceania? Yes, yes, not in northern north,
Speaker 1: you know, the northern part of the continent or what
Speaker 1: do we call it When I'm thinking of North America,
Speaker 1: it's not North America. It's in Oceania, and it's just
Speaker 1: out there. It's the longest flight, the longest flight without
Speaker 1: any land underneath you in the entire world, is from
Speaker 1: the West Coast to Hawaii. Nothing, yes, there is nothing.
Speaker 1: If something goes wrong, you're done. You're landing out with
Speaker 1: the whales and the dolphins. That's it. But I've always
Speaker 1: thought when I get into a plane, if something goes wrong,
Speaker 1: that's it. I've never gotten into a plane. Yeah, I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm fine with that, Like I don't expect
Speaker 1: for an emergency like crash land the plane that landed
Speaker 1: in the Hudson River, remember in New York for years back,
Speaker 1: and yes it was Sully, Yes, the whole movie on it. Yes, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean everyone survived. I think if I remember correcting
Speaker 1: every one person that but everything it seemed like everyone
Speaker 1: made it. Like that's that's so un likely, so unlikely
Speaker 1: that that's going to happen. So when I get into
Speaker 1: a plane, I'm like, Okay, if this is it, this
Speaker 1: is it. I'm not worried. That's it. But it's a
Speaker 1: long flight. Unfortunately, we got the extra leg room, so
Speaker 1: I had had some room. But every time I fly
Speaker 1: now I live, I don't say where exactly I live,
Speaker 1: but you kind of know where I live. And I
Speaker 1: go far from Lax out the north Woods, and I
Speaker 1: try to avoid Lax at all costs because I hate
Speaker 1: Lax and I don't know anyone that likes it, And
Speaker 1: I got a refresher course. Now we, of course what
Speaker 1: we all do. I'm sure you do this too. When
Speaker 1: you go somewhere with your summer romance. There you decide
Speaker 1: on the cheapest airfare. You're willing to go a little
Speaker 1: further to an airport to get the cheap airfare, and inevitably,
Speaker 1: this is my curse. LAX is always the cheapest, hands down.
Speaker 2: Always.
Speaker 1: I mean, we got a bunch of airports in the
Speaker 1: LA area. Got you got Burbank, You've got Ontario, That's
Speaker 1: where I go. I love that one. It's a small airport,
Speaker 1: Orange County, Long Beach. There's all these little airports, but
Speaker 1: LAX is always the cheapest. So you punch in the
Speaker 1: numbers on your phone. You're like, all right, how much
Speaker 1: is any and said, well, I can save two hundred
Speaker 1: bucks per ticket if I go to LAX. So okay,
Speaker 1: I'll go there. And every time I go to LAX,
Speaker 1: I regret it. It's a refresher course, the worst airport
Speaker 1: in America with LA Without I've traveled a fair amount
Speaker 1: and I've only traveled around the continental United States, Alex
Speaker 1: So I don't know what it's like outside of the US.
Speaker 1: I haven't traveled abroad, no kidding, I haven't other than Oceania.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, okay, but I haven't traveled about so I
Speaker 1: only in the US. But I go to these other airports.
Speaker 1: I'm like, all right, Dallas, great, they got a train system.
Speaker 1: Atlanta's got a subway to take you between the terminals.
Speaker 1: Just awesome. Lax. You walk about seventeen months. I thought
Speaker 1: I was walking to Hawaii. I thought I thought it
Speaker 1: was like a triathlon when I got because they dropped
Speaker 1: us off at the Tom Bradley terminales, which are some
Speaker 1: the international terminal at LAX, which that proves it is
Speaker 1: not in North America. It's an international flight for right
Speaker 1: in California and Hawaii. It's in the international tournam There's
Speaker 1: all these terminal, all these people coming from like China, Japan,
Speaker 1: you know wherever, Yes, Russia, you name it, probably not Russia,
Speaker 1: but far away places, far away places, right, So they're
Speaker 1: all there, they're arriving, this is our first experience in America,
Speaker 1: and they're at the baggage claim and all that they
Speaker 1: drop us off. We of course parching parking, budget parking,
Speaker 1: and then we go. We check in and we're like, okay, this,
Speaker 1: I've never been to the international terminal. This is great.
Speaker 1: So we check in and they say you're at the
Speaker 1: gate like A twenty two. Okay, okay, and then you
Speaker 1: have to find gate A twenty two. And you start
Speaker 1: walking and you keep walking and you're meandering right, you're
Speaker 1: going through and you're going and you walk through the
Speaker 1: cool part, the nice part of the terminal where everything
Speaker 1: smells good and looks good. And then they say there's
Speaker 1: an escalator you've got to go down. So you're like,
Speaker 1: all right, I'll meander down right, I'll navigate the airport, sure,
Speaker 1: find my way. So I go down the not one,
Speaker 1: not too but three escalators. I then have to walk
Speaker 1: and they have this is a massive hall, massive massive hall.
Speaker 1: It's like three or four football fields. I'm not exaggerating.
Speaker 1: They have those people mover situated. Yes, those walking. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's not it's not. It's like you walk and it walks,
Speaker 1: it rolls along. You know, escalator, well kind of, but
Speaker 1: it's it's just rolling. It's like a rubberized floor. You're walking.
Speaker 1: And then yeah, so I went on that. There were
Speaker 1: three of those. So then I get done with that.
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, I'm good, NOV arrived. Nope, nope, gotta
Speaker 1: zigzag my way up another escalator. Right now, I gotta
Speaker 1: twist around a corner. I gotta walk by a Burger King.
Speaker 1: They couldn't get better food at lax Burger King. My god,
Speaker 1: so that's torturous. So I walked by the Burger King.
Speaker 1: Some other restaurants are closed because it was early. And
Speaker 1: it walked down a walk walk walk walk walk walk
Speaker 1: walk walk walk walk. I mean, it is insane. I think,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm out in the countryside. And finally I finally
Speaker 1: to the very end of the A terminal or the
Speaker 1: A block of that terminal, and right there and then
Speaker 1: I have to sit, and of course you have to
Speaker 1: then sit for another hour for your plane to board. Yes,
Speaker 1: and the whole the full, all inclusive experience. But if
Speaker 1: I had been at another airport and taking one of
Speaker 1: the train systems, I would have been there in about
Speaker 1: two minutes. I would have been able to kick back, relax,
Speaker 1: enjoy myself. Whatever. Then that's a nightmare. It was not
Speaker 1: an enjoyable experience whatsoever. And then and then I had
Speaker 1: what I call pa madness, Alex. So this is very odd.
Speaker 1: It's a small world, after all, it's a fall fall world.
Speaker 1: So when I fly, I have long legs, and in
Speaker 1: order to circumvent having to get shoved into a little
Speaker 1: container and try to have a little leg room, you know,
Speaker 1: a sardine containers, I go with the emergency road. Now,
Speaker 1: back in the old days, when I first started flying,
Speaker 1: when I was a kid, you didn't need to pay
Speaker 1: extra for an emergency road. In fact, they asked volunteers
Speaker 1: to sit in the emergency Yes, I remember that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: It's like, would you like to sit in the emergency room.
Speaker 1: We're looking for like ten people. And I always said sure, yes,
Speaker 1: and he never said no. That there was a point
Speaker 1: when I was really obese that I didn't fit in
Speaker 1: the seat, which was a problem. But since i've lost
Speaker 1: the weight, which has been a long time, and you've
Speaker 1: known me, I think since I lost all the weight,
Speaker 1: so you know me when I was massive, So I've
Speaker 1: been fine. So but they started charging like fifteen years ago,
Speaker 1: they started charging for maybe less than that, but they
Speaker 1: started charging for the exit row. But I pay a
Speaker 1: little extra. It's not first class, it's a little more,
Speaker 1: but it's at least I can feel my knees when
Speaker 1: I get off the plane, and so that's usually good.
Speaker 1: So I get to the as I said, I had
Speaker 1: to walk through this entire airport, all the all the surroundings,
Speaker 1: everything just massive. I saw the whole scenery of Lax.
Speaker 1: So then I'm at the terminal at the gate rather
Speaker 1: and I'm sitting there, mine of my own business, fussing
Speaker 1: around on my phone, charging my phone, and the PA
Speaker 1: person at the gate says, I will passenger passenger Lee,
Speaker 1: passenger mallor Benjamin mallor come to the gate. Oh my god, Okay,
Speaker 1: what did I do? Did they not have my ticket? Like?
Speaker 1: What's going on here? You know something must be wrong?
Speaker 1: And no, because I guess the wife had checked in
Speaker 1: for me on her phone. I did not check in
Speaker 1: on my phone. They just wanted to make sure that
Speaker 1: I was comfortable sitting in an exit row, which, by
Speaker 1: the way, I had booked. Okay, I'd already booked this.
Speaker 1: I knew I was sitting in an exit row, but
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, I'm fine. So it took like
Speaker 1: two seconds. So then I went back to sit down.
Speaker 1: And then this is the PA madness part. This is
Speaker 1: a gentleman comes up to me around my age, comes
Speaker 1: up to me and says, hey, are you Ben Mahler
Speaker 1: And I looked at him and I said, why, Yes
Speaker 1: I am Ben mallor yes I am. So it turns
Speaker 1: out this guy was not a listener to the radio show,
Speaker 1: not a Fox Sports radio consumer, none of this guy.
Speaker 1: This is where it's a small world, after all. I
Speaker 1: went to elementary school and junior high school with this
Speaker 1: guy stop and we got into a fight. We got
Speaker 1: into a dust up and both got suspended from junior
Speaker 1: high school. And I hadn't seen this guy since probably
Speaker 1: my sophomore year of high school. That long. Wow, and
Speaker 1: he happened to be at the airport on the state
Speaker 1: the same flags Nim Steve and in case he's listening,
Speaker 1: but yeah, he's just happened to be there, and he's
Speaker 1: he's like telling me, And at first I have no
Speaker 1: idea what he's saying, Like to me, he's speaking Portuguese
Speaker 1: or something like that. I'm like, I know what this
Speaker 1: is or pig lax, I have no idea what you're saying.
Speaker 1: And he's like, he's, oh, yeah, you know, I went
Speaker 1: to school with you. And he then he named some
Speaker 1: other guy that he went to school with, Like, I'm
Speaker 1: supposed to know who that is. I no idea who.
Speaker 1: I gotta tell you. My youth, I was the fat kid.
Speaker 1: I got picked on. I tried to block all that out.
Speaker 1: I have PTSD. You know, I moved on from that.
Speaker 1: I've had a much better experience as an adult than
Speaker 1: I did when I was in school. It was not
Speaker 1: a very enjoyable experience. I wasn't a great student, and partly,
Speaker 1: you know, people were a holes, right and all. That's
Speaker 1: so I moved on. I made it out of school,
Speaker 1: and then I went into radio at a young age.
Speaker 1: I was nineteen and I just worked in radio ever
Speaker 1: since and that's been my my jam and I've done it.
Speaker 1: But anyway, so we were catching up and we exchanged
Speaker 1: numbers and all that, but then I kept running into it.
Speaker 1: So I ran into the airport. We talked for like
Speaker 1: five minutes. I think he could kind of tell Steve
Speaker 1: that I wasn't really into it, but he was nice,
Speaker 1: he had a smile, and then then he walked away.
Speaker 1: So then we go to we fly. He didn't sit
Speaker 1: next to me or anything like that. We fly all
Speaker 1: the way five and a half hours to Kawhi and
Speaker 1: then I see him again at the baggage claim. So
Speaker 1: now here we are we talking again? Oh my god.
Speaker 1: So then we say goodbye. Then I have to go
Speaker 1: get a rental car. Who do you think is in
Speaker 1: the little Who do you think is in the bus
Speaker 1: on the way to the rental car? Yeah? So I
Speaker 1: saw them like three times on that trip to Kawai.
Speaker 3: Okay, I have to ask you, Ben, then, is that,
Speaker 3: like I know, we'll use like a religious term. Is
Speaker 3: that like divine intervention? It's preordained because you have some
Speaker 3: kind of there's something there, there's a reason why you
Speaker 3: go through that experience because the odds seem almost impossible.
Speaker 3: I've met people like you said, in situations that I
Speaker 3: should have never ran into them, and it's like, how
Speaker 3: is that even a lot?
Speaker 1: We're in different states. How does that even work? To me?
Speaker 1: I feel like that's something that's just meant to happen.
Speaker 1: How do you explain that? Is that? I think the
Speaker 1: term is serendipity, which was also where it is Serendipity,
Speaker 1: which I think was a ice cream shop in Vegas.
Speaker 1: It's called Serendipity, and they really good ice cream shakes
Speaker 1: if I remember. Hopefully they're still doing well. But that's incressible.
Speaker 1: It is cool. It's like it's such a massive planet,
Speaker 1: but yet it's not. It's not that it's a game.
Speaker 3: To me, the way I think about it, it's like
Speaker 3: these events kind of trickle back into your life to
Speaker 3: see if it sparks something or if you're truly over something,
Speaker 3: or will make you remind of something, like you said,
Speaker 3: back to your childhood and school time, and it's like
Speaker 3: you've done so hard to block it, did you really
Speaker 3: ever move on from it?
Speaker 1: So?
Speaker 3: Is that why you saw Steve? Was Steve there to
Speaker 3: like remind you? It's it's so cool to me.
Speaker 1: I love that. Yeah, and I would if they hadn't
Speaker 1: said my name on the PA system though I wouldn't
Speaker 1: have known he was there. He wouldn't have known. I
Speaker 1: would exactly just been on the same plane and that
Speaker 1: would have been it. Wow. But the stars aligned, that's crazy.
Speaker 3: And also before I forget back to the who Hawaii thing,
Speaker 3: I can tell you the national fish because I remember
Speaker 3: it from childhood.
Speaker 1: Are you ready for this one? Uh? Yeah, that sounds
Speaker 1: like a fun fact. Yes, what is the the national
Speaker 1: Because I have my own fun facts.
Speaker 3: What is the new gal Yeah, go ahead. It is
Speaker 3: from from Hawaii's national fish. It is unukunukuapua. I will
Speaker 3: always remember it forever, really, yes, unukuapua A always will
Speaker 3: remember it. Wow, thank you, pretty impressive. Thank you, remember,
Speaker 3: thank you.
Speaker 1: I did not know that I saw some crazy wildfish.
Speaker 1: I did a lot of snorkeling. We'll have more travel
Speaker 1: stories throughout the weekend as we work our way through here.
Speaker 1: We have two more podcasts to do. But I did
Speaker 1: have some other I have some my bonus Hawaii fun fact.
Speaker 1: You want to fund fact? Yes, give you a fun fact, guys.
Speaker 1: This one always always surprises me. All right, you think
Speaker 1: of Hawaii, there are eight islands that are part of
Speaker 1: the Hawaiian Island state, the state of Hawaii. They're eight islands, right, Wahu, Maui, Kawaii,
Speaker 1: the Big Island, all those you know, the Hawaiian Island.
Speaker 1: I guess they call it the Big Island. And there's
Speaker 1: a couple other smaller ones. But didn't you know there
Speaker 1: are actually one hundred and thirty two different Hawaiian islands now,
Speaker 1: while there's one hundred really or a little small ones
Speaker 1: like reefs, shoals as. Let's is that how you saying? Yes?
Speaker 1: You say, I think so. The eight Main Islands are
Speaker 1: part of America. So here's my question. If you were
Speaker 1: to live on one of those little, small, little lumps
Speaker 1: of land, are you in your own country? Is that?
Speaker 1: What is that like? Or is that could you? There's
Speaker 1: eight so that means there's one hundred and sixteen other
Speaker 1: little place place. I did get a story one time
Speaker 1: from I was on a boat in Hawaii and a
Speaker 1: guy claimed there was an island right off the coast
Speaker 1: of Kawaii. Okay, it was kind of like Catalina is
Speaker 1: to La. Yes, yeah, far away, and do you like
Speaker 1: Catalina or no? I feel like if it's more like
Speaker 1: a date thing, I can be down. Otherwise I'm kind
Speaker 1: of like I'd rather be Huntington or something or Venice,
Speaker 1: you know. Like, Okay, well, I like Kelly, but it's
Speaker 1: it's far. It's close enough, but yet far enough. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you gotta you know what I'm saying. So you get
Speaker 1: there and you can see it. And this guy on
Speaker 1: the boat, the guy claimed that the island was filled
Speaker 1: with indigenous people, was not part of the Hawaiian Island really,
Speaker 1: he might have been full of crap, but he said
Speaker 1: they they don't have the modern technology and they're still
Speaker 1: living like the Native Hawaiians and all that. It's not
Speaker 1: part wow the U. That's what he claimed. I don't
Speaker 1: know if he might have been pulling my chain, but
Speaker 1: that's probably I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I mean, it seems it sounds yeah, isn't like one
Speaker 3: of those things, but it isn't like isn't that like
Speaker 3: a thing that you want to believe in because it
Speaker 3: sounds so cool?
Speaker 1: Like I hope that is real. Well, I think when
Speaker 1: when Hawaii became a state, when it was taken over
Speaker 1: by the evil Americans and they, you know, they stole
Speaker 1: basically Hawaii from stole everything here. I get it pretty much.
Speaker 1: That's how it works. But so they they had My
Speaker 1: favorite spot is in the Neapoli Coast, and the people
Speaker 1: that were living there back back in the day, the
Speaker 1: people that were living in the Neapoli Coast, they allowed them,
Speaker 1: they grandfathered them in. Yes, they said, all right, you're that.
Speaker 1: You can be here until everyone dies and then that's
Speaker 1: it and uh, we we're good. And so like the
Speaker 1: last guy I think died, not that long ago that
Speaker 1: there was a native Hawaiian that was allowed to live
Speaker 1: there throughout his his life. Also, the Hawaii island is
Speaker 1: I believe, like the largest in width. It's like thousands
Speaker 1: of miles between the beginning and the end of the
Speaker 1: Hawaiian island chain. It's like the largest state in terms
Speaker 1: of distance. Yeah. Yeah, so it's it's it's incredible fun facts. Yeah.
Speaker 3: But see, like that's a good question you ask about,
Speaker 3: like when, because you know how there's like so many
Speaker 3: little islands that these millionaires or billionaires buy, and so
Speaker 3: they have their own just in the middle of nowhere
Speaker 3: or whatever it is. I'm interested, like you said, if
Speaker 3: that's like not anywhere close to any country or is
Speaker 3: it just your own? Like how does that even work?
Speaker 3: How does that classify?
Speaker 1: Yeah? So serious. Now in the water, they have this
Speaker 1: international waters they call, you know, international waters and all that,
Speaker 1: which is a certain number of miles. We've actually talked
Speaker 1: about this on a previous podcast. But you're a certain
Speaker 1: amount of miles off the coast, and like when does
Speaker 1: that begin? Yes, that I think, if I remember correctly,
Speaker 1: we just talked about this a few weeks ago. If
Speaker 1: everything runs together, but it's I think it's twelve nautical
Speaker 1: miles past the coastline of a nation. You're an international
Speaker 1: water really, Yeah, And I heard stories when I was
Speaker 1: a kid my grandfather back during Prohibition when everything was
Speaker 1: illegal and they got the alcohol. Yes, they used to
Speaker 1: have these boats in LA that would go out to
Speaker 1: international waters and they would be gambling boats and have alcohol.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: No, yeah, people would yeah, to get around the rules.
Speaker 1: They would I don't know how they were able to
Speaker 1: have the alcohol when they were at the coast, but
Speaker 1: they but they would go out into the you know,
Speaker 1: twelve thirteen miles out to see and whatever happens happens.
Speaker 3: The old school cruise ships before now, yeah, you go
Speaker 3: out there, have all your all your fun. Speaking about
Speaker 3: water Bend, I've always been interested in trying once in
Speaker 3: my life. It's a bucket list thing. I have to
Speaker 3: go to the Bermudia Triangle.
Speaker 1: I have to.
Speaker 3: I'm so fascinated by it. You think there's something there,
Speaker 3: oh for sure? Okay, Ben, we can't even explain what
Speaker 3: eels are. Nobody knows where they come from. And like
Speaker 3: oceanographers and people who study ocean life for their entire life,
Speaker 3: these people still don't even understand how eel's mate. Every
Speaker 3: time there's a mating season for eels, whether it's in
Speaker 3: captivity or free water, they always go to the Bermuda Triangle.
Speaker 3: So we've never been able to document any mating season
Speaker 3: for eels. I don't even know what's going on there. Like,
Speaker 3: I'm so fascinated of like, what is that place? Why
Speaker 3: is it off? Why is it a triangle? Why is
Speaker 3: it off limits? What happens there? Like, I'm so fascinated
Speaker 3: with the unknown. It it's interesting to me.
Speaker 1: I haven't heard as much about the Bermuda Triangle in
Speaker 1: recent years, but when I was a kid, that was
Speaker 1: a massive deely. There used to be planes that would
Speaker 1: disappear all the time. It's the devil's trying. Yes's there
Speaker 1: right off the the Atlantic, Southern Atlantic? Yes? Off? Is
Speaker 1: it way off the coast of Florida? Is that where
Speaker 1: it is? It's pretty far.
Speaker 3: It's not like something you can quickly get to, but
Speaker 3: it definitely is with it in the day's trip, I believe. Okay,
Speaker 3: but it just isn't that fascinating though, Like the eel aspect.
Speaker 3: As soon as I learned that, and I was like,
Speaker 3: we don't know much about eels. They're like underwater snakes
Speaker 3: out of their own they look like sea serpents, like
Speaker 3: the Leviathans.
Speaker 1: Why do they go to the Bermuda triangle? Like what
Speaker 1: pulls them?
Speaker 3: There's like some magnetic force that just triggles their event
Speaker 3: through natural instinct. It's fascinating to me.
Speaker 1: No, it is interesting. I used to be into that
Speaker 1: back in the day. I mean, there's a lot of things.
Speaker 1: We hardly know what's in the world. Zero when I'm
Speaker 1: flying over the ocean, you know, we we'll get to
Speaker 1: this and then another. Maybe it's tomorrow. But well, I'll
Speaker 1: say I have a thought. Maybe we'll have some fun
Speaker 1: stuff about that too, Ben about the ocean for you?
Speaker 1: All right, well, very good. Anyway, we'll get out on that.
Speaker 1: It is Friday today, the nineteenth day of July. It
Speaker 1: is for some reason national football Day. Oh, which doesn't
Speaker 1: make any sense because there's no football. It's an urban
Speaker 1: beekeeping day today. So remember that that fake story years
Speaker 1: ago where they said the beaches were dying. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: they always make it, dude all the time. Wasn't true?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, just like they said, like global warming, right,
Speaker 3: but the ocean levels have been the same since early
Speaker 3: nineteen hundreds. Yeah, I'm gonna believe all that shoutouts.
Speaker 1: Yeah exactly. All right, Well, get out on that anything
Speaker 1: you want to promote here Alex on this Friday or
Speaker 1: you're good, oh just your podcast.
Speaker 3: Yeah, just if you guys need some fun life advice
Speaker 3: or somebody thinking outside the box and just goes into
Speaker 3: a flow state with no prep for a show, it's
Speaker 3: just check out Shallow Oceans podcast. It's been my baby
Speaker 3: and I've had a great time, So thank you.
Speaker 1: Ben. Sounds good. All right, have a great Friday. We
Speaker 1: got new podcasts all week and long Saturday and Sunday.
Speaker 1: We'll catch you then.