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Speaker 1: This one Bill's Live presented by Kalida Health. Welcome into

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Speaker 1: our final day of coverage here at the NFL Combine

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Speaker 1: Chris Brown Maddy clab live in Indianapolis. As the workouts

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Speaker 1: have already begun. Those began in ernest yesterday. We'll tell

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Speaker 1: you a little bit about those. And coming through the

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Speaker 1: media area today, the wide receiver class and Maddy and

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Speaker 1: I were bopping around trying to lend an ear to what's.

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Speaker 2: Some of the receivers were saying. I will say, you.

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Speaker 1: Do get a better feel for the person rather than

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Speaker 1: the prospect and what you observe on you know, video

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Speaker 1: and everything about their skill set and their production and stats.

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Speaker 2: And all that.

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Speaker 1: It makes like you just hearing them answer questions here,

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Speaker 1: you understand the value of why teams want to sit

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Speaker 2: Interview these guys. So it's it helps us as much

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Speaker 2: as I think it helps the person help people.

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Speaker 3: For these NFL clubs, the story of who that player

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Speaker 3: is is a very part important part of why they

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Speaker 3: are the way that they are and even translating to

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Speaker 3: Where did they come from? We were talking to Emmanuel

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Speaker 3: McNeil Warren the safety out of Toledo a couple days ago,

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Speaker 3: and he was talking about how he has nine siblings.

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Speaker 3: So you find out all these nuggets of information that

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Speaker 3: was nice to hear from a lot of the wide

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Speaker 3: they can do at the NFL level. Some of them,

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Speaker 3: I asked, you know, what would it be like to

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Speaker 3: gonna say, I'm good. Everybody was like, He's one of

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Speaker 2: Yeah, better get to the dinner table first.

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Speaker 1: If you're one of ten, kidsh my god, they're not

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Speaker 1: So we'll begin with some Bills notes because there was

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Speaker 1: some news with respect to the impending free agents for

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Speaker 1: nothing official from the team yet, but it looks like

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Speaker 1: the Bills have re signed special teams ace Sam Franklin.

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Speaker 1: It's reportedly a three year deal worth seven and a

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Speaker 1: half million dollars, finished fourth on the team and Special

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Speaker 1: teams tackles last year. But as you and I were

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Speaker 1: talking before we came on the show today, Maddie, we

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Speaker 1: know Joe Brady is a juice guy. Likes to be

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Speaker 1: he likes juice guys.

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Speaker 2: And Sam Franklin's a juice guy. Oh yeah, big time.

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Speaker 3: Sam Franklin brings it. He is one of the biggest

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Speaker 3: trash talkers on the team. He is not afraid to

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Speaker 3: tell you that he is really good at playing NFL football.

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Speaker 3: I was talking to Tordevius White about him, because White

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Speaker 3: he came to the Bills. They actually went on a

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Speaker 3: getting triple teamed out there. He is really good.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that's why the Bills brought him in

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Speaker 2: And I'm very curious to see.

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Speaker 1: The makeup of the people that are added to this

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Speaker 3: Brandon Being said that in my interview with him, he said,

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Speaker 3: we don't want all choir boys, but we also don't

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Speaker 3: But he noted that it is important to have some

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Speaker 3: one of the reasons why he is like that is

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Speaker 3: He told me in an interview that I did with him,

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Speaker 3: And he played in his first playoff game this year

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Speaker 3: so he was psyched to be there and was really

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Speaker 2: So that is probably a done deal.

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Speaker 1: We'll wait for the Bills to confirm that, but looks

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Speaker 1: Alec Anderson and Sam Franklin as Bills free agents. Alec

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Speaker 1: We'll see what comes in the coming days. Knowing that

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Speaker 1: the Bills have to get capped compliant by March eleventh,

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Speaker 1: and that calendar is taking away pretty quickly. Let's go

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Speaker 1: around the NFL presented by Kalida Health and the linebackers

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Speaker 1: and defensive linemen tested Thursday, and Ohio State linebacker Sunny

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Speaker 1: Styles put on a show four four seven forty time

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Speaker 1: Cincinnati linebacker Jake Golday, who was expected to test well.

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Speaker 2: Georgia Pro Day on March eighteenth.

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Speaker 1: Two of the top edge rushers here we are again,

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Speaker 1: Ohio State Rvel Reese and Texas tex David Bailey ran well, clocking.

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Speaker 3: Times coming off the edge. Sign me up.

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Speaker 1: Ohio State might have four guys drafted in the top ten.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's every year it's banana.

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Speaker 1: It's bananas, and for the most part, they translate well

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Speaker 2: The last seven or eight years. And they're a factory.

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Speaker 1: They are a factory of producing NFL athletes that not

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Speaker 2: It's Dharmer. It's really impressive. I gotta say.

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Speaker 1: That's why it's funny. You hear this from fans sometimes, Maddy,

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Speaker 1: they just say, well, for God's sake, just draft an

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Speaker 2: The Bills did that.

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Speaker 2: To hopefully push down stuff to the Bills.

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Speaker 3: And do the Bills feel like we want to get

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Speaker 3: the more I know we talk about every year, like

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Speaker 1: And as we've talked about, you know, Buffalo is in

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Speaker 3: Does that exist at twenty six?

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Speaker 1: He's a perfect number two, like he's I don't think

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Speaker 1: Vikings finished second, followed by the Washington Commanders in third.

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Speaker 1: At the bottom, the Pittsburgh Steelers, finishing last for the

440
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Speaker 1: first time in the four year history of the Union survey.

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Speaker 1: Last year, Steelers ranked twenty eighth, Cardinals thirty first after

442
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Speaker 1: a last place finish the year.

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Speaker 3: Before, Kay moved up one spot.

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Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns finished thirtieth, which was exactly where they were

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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty five. Bill's finished right in the middle, sixteenth,

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Speaker 1: and I would expect their ranking improves next year with

447
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Speaker 1: all the bills and whistles of the new stadium, right,

448
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Speaker 1: wouldn't you think?

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Speaker 2: I would think they would go up.

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Speaker 3: The grade for the stadium, and playing turf wasn't that

451
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Speaker 3: great for the bills.

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Speaker 1: And you know, the visiting locker room isn't getting tremendous

453
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Speaker 1: reviews from NFL visiting team players, So oh yeah, I

454
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Speaker 1: think the thing I've heard from the players the most

455
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Speaker 1: about the new place is the indoor warm up area.

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Speaker 2: Right off the locker room.

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Speaker 1: They are I swear they're jazzed about, like I've heard

458
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Speaker 1: that from four different guys in the locker room.

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Speaker 2: Dion was one who's not afraid to share his opinion.

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Speaker 4: With anybody.

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Speaker 1: He's excited about that. And there were three other guys

462
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Speaker 1: I've talked to that are like, dude, the inside the

463
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Speaker 1: warm up field before I got to go out, because

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Speaker 1: that is awesome.

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Speaker 3: They will also have something like that for the opposing

466
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Speaker 3: team because you have to be very similar to so

467
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Speaker 3: since the Bills are getting at the the opponents will

468
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Speaker 3: have an area to warm up in as well.

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Speaker 2: Now here's one thing I'm wondering about.

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Speaker 1: As you know, media members as well as us look

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Speaker 1: for early on field workouts to determine who's going to

472
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Speaker 1: be inactive and who is not. And I wonder if

473
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Speaker 1: these teams take that inside so they cannot be viewed.

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Speaker 3: That will be interesting just to prolong the suspicion of

475
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Speaker 3: who will be active sense.

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Speaker 1: The thought just something that came to mind because it's

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Speaker 1: it's a tool that you know, veteran media people use

478
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Speaker 1: to determine who's going to be active and inactive.

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Speaker 2: With some questionable people, I could definitely see it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we got to take a break here because when

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Speaker 1: we come back, we're going to be joined by Matt

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Speaker 1: Harmon from Yahoo Sports, the creator of Reception.

483
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Speaker 2: Perception receivers are coming through, so why wouldn't we talk

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Speaker 2: to this guy? We'll do that when we return.

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Speaker 1: Here on One Bill's Live, presented by Collida Health. All right,

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Speaker 1: back here on One Phil's Live with our live coverage

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Speaker 1: from the NFL Combine in Indianapolis. Chris Brown, Matti Lab

488
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Speaker 1: with you, and joining us now from Yahoo Sports, Matt Harmon,

489
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Speaker 1: creator of Reception, Perception, and Surprise Surprise. We're gonna drill

490
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Speaker 1: down on receivers here in the class. And you know,

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Speaker 1: Maddy and I were just kind of lending in here

492
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Speaker 1: to some of the interviews that were happening out there

493
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Speaker 1: today with the medias. I'm sure you were as well,

494
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Speaker 1: just kind of trolling and trying to pick up on

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Speaker 1: some things.

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Speaker 2: But let's just talk about the class in general, because.

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Speaker 1: I think it's a good receiver class, but I just

498
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Speaker 1: don't think it has a lot of alpha male number

499
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Speaker 1: one guys. I mean, would you say, beyond you know,

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Speaker 1: Carnell Tait and Jordan Tyson, how many other true like

501
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 1: number one guys are there?

502
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:05,600
Speaker 2: I don't know that there are.

503
00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:07,520
Speaker 5: And you can honestly say, like I'm not sure that

504
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:10,560
Speaker 5: Carnel Tit or Jordan Tyson are for sure number one

505
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:13,879
Speaker 5: wide receivers. Either, it's not like that, and again this

506
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,920
Speaker 5: is not what these guys have become in the league.

507
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:18,600
Speaker 5: But in twenty twenty four, it was pretty clear that

508
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:20,679
Speaker 5: we had like three guys that should go in the

509
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:23,399
Speaker 5: top ten. You know, Marvin Harrison, Malik Neighbors, and Malik

510
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:25,359
Speaker 5: has been that guy when he's been healthy. Harrison, it's

511
00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:26,920
Speaker 5: been a little more up and down than Raw. Madoonsy

512
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:28,760
Speaker 5: went the top ten too. I don't think that we

513
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Speaker 5: have guys of that tier. To me, like what I

514
00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:34,760
Speaker 5: would grade as a Tier one receiver on my rankings

515
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Speaker 5: for reception perception, like tier one. You can take these

516
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:38,760
Speaker 5: guys top ten in any draft. I think you can

517
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Speaker 5: take a guy like Carnel Tate in the top ten

518
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:42,720
Speaker 5: of this draft, or even Mikayle Lemon if you have

519
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:46,960
Speaker 5: a slot receiver available in your offense. But again it's

520
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:48,240
Speaker 5: like a step down there. But I would say the

521
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:50,600
Speaker 5: quality of this class probably comes then in the depth

522
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Speaker 5: of it, which it feels like every single year it's like,

523
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:55,239
Speaker 5: as receivers pretty deep, and at this point now I'm

524
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:57,320
Speaker 5: almost like there's too many good receivers in the league.

525
00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:59,600
Speaker 5: There's too some of these rooms are getting really crowded,

526
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:01,720
Speaker 5: and younger guys are kind of getting pushed down. So

527
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Speaker 5: it's a very interesting, just kind of class in that regard.

528
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Speaker 5: I think I saw Dane Bruver's got like seventeen in

529
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Speaker 5: his top one hundred, which my first.

530
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Speaker 4: Thought was that I was like, I gotta lock in.

531
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Speaker 5: I got a lot of work, and I got a

532
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Speaker 5: lot of work to do. But the second thing is like, yeah,

533
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Speaker 5: the depth is there in this class.

534
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Speaker 3: You have reception perception. How you grade wide receivers? Break

535
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Speaker 3: it down for us for those who don't know.

536
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Speaker 5: Yeah, so for those unfamiliar, reception perception is the methodology

537
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:29,080
Speaker 5: that I came up with in twenty thirteen. Twenty fourteen

538
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:31,520
Speaker 5: was the first year I collected league wide data. What

539
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:33,359
Speaker 5: I do is over an eight game, sayple for NFL

540
00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:35,040
Speaker 5: players or for college prospects, I go in and I

541
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Speaker 5: chowed every single route that they run, where they line up,

542
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:39,160
Speaker 5: are they outside and the slode?

543
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Speaker 4: Are they off the ball? They on the ball?

544
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Speaker 5: Trying to really define those roles and player archetypes is

545
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Speaker 5: the thing I've probably become more nerdy about, and yeah,

546
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Speaker 5: more and more like a fan of than I. Honestly,

547
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Speaker 5: I probably said things the first two years off, because

548
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Speaker 5: if you're going to do something, you know, like a

549
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Speaker 5: study like this, you would take four to five years

550
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Speaker 5: of collecting data and then put out your conclusions. But

551
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Speaker 5: that's not how the content game works, baby. So for me,

552
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Speaker 5: that's the thing I've kind of said, I've really refined

553
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Speaker 5: the process on more defining these archtypes in alignment. But

554
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Speaker 5: what people like is the success rate versus coverage metrics.

555
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:12,680
Speaker 5: Howeten are they getting open against man's own press coverage?

556
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Speaker 5: But then helps us define those archtypes and everything. So yeah,

557
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:17,720
Speaker 5: it's a full field look at what a wide receiver

558
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:20,760
Speaker 5: is isolated from surrounding variables, because that's the thing with receivers,

559
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:23,280
Speaker 5: You've got to have a lot go right in order

560
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 5: for you to get a target, much less a good

561
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:28,040
Speaker 5: clean target, and trying to isolate them from surrounding variables

562
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Speaker 5: puts the picture beyond just what their production is.

563
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Speaker 1: So we kind of want to look at some of

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Speaker 1: the guys that could be in the range striking distance

565
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Speaker 1: of the bills at twenty six and we were listening

566
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Speaker 1: to Conceptsione. Today we're listening to Bernard.

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Speaker 2: I don't know Bernard's gonna go on round one maybe

568
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 2: he does.

569
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Speaker 1: But Conceptsione has been mocked in that range near the Bills,

570
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Speaker 1: has even been mocked to the Bills a couple of times.

571
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Speaker 2: Where does he rate with your methodology?

572
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Speaker 5: I'm a big fan of his game and to be transparent,

573
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,760
Speaker 5: and it's the type of receiver that I always fall for,

574
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:05,720
Speaker 5: you know, the smaller guys, the explosive players who get

575
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Speaker 5: open against. I can't wait to see what he measures

576
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Speaker 5: in at I just want to see again, like how

577
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 5: big he is. That'll help define that archetype process we

578
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:13,760
Speaker 5: were just discussing. But yeah, a guy that separates at

579
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:16,280
Speaker 5: all three levels, very explosive off the line of scrimmage,

580
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Speaker 5: wins against press coverage. Yeah, has a little bit of

581
00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:20,160
Speaker 5: a drop problem. I think it's probably more of a

582
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Speaker 5: focus issue than a tracking issue. I think he's one

583
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Speaker 5: of those receivers that drops the easy passes, wins the

584
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:27,560
Speaker 5: hard one hard one, which you got to ask, like, again,

585
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Speaker 5: is that a focus issue?

586
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Speaker 4: Is it a tracking issue for me?

587
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Speaker 5: I think it's more of a focus issue something that

588
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:34,120
Speaker 5: can get corrected in time, but it does have to

589
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Speaker 5: get corrected. It's probably something that keeps him from being

590
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Speaker 5: that like Tier one receiver.

591
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Speaker 4: Prospect that we're talking about.

592
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Speaker 5: But man, again, somebody that can come open and come

593
00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:43,720
Speaker 5: in there and get open. I think that's a lot

594
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Speaker 5: of what obviously the Bills have lacked the last couple

595
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Speaker 5: of years.

596
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Speaker 4: He would certainly bring that element to it.

597
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Speaker 5: So yeah, I'm a fan of I have him as

598
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 5: my wide receiver three in this class, and I don't

599
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:54,080
Speaker 5: think that too much more is going to change about that.

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Speaker 4: I'm a big fan of his.

601
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Speaker 5: Do you have him ahead of Lemon? I'm ahead of Tyson. Tyson, Okay, Tyson,

602
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Speaker 5: you got to worry about a couple things. Number One,

603
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:03,360
Speaker 5: the injury can is a big deal, and I think

604
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:05,720
Speaker 5: that's important to pay attention. I just say that's important

605
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:08,360
Speaker 5: to pay attention to throughout the process from everything I've heard.

606
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Speaker 5: Number Two, I also think like good player. He admittedly

607
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Speaker 5: was the one of when I came into this and

608
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Speaker 5: I knew there was like kind of three consensus top

609
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Speaker 5: guys between Tate, Lemon, and Tyson. Of the three, he's

610
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Speaker 5: the one I've kind of It's taken me a while

611
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:24,120
Speaker 5: to figure out like what he is. You know, for Tate,

612
00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:27,600
Speaker 5: he fits thirty two NFL offenses because he's a prototypical

613
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Speaker 5: outside receiver. With Lemon, I think it takes more of

614
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:32,440
Speaker 5: the right fit because he is he a Z and

615
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 5: two receiver sets and then moves into the slot or

616
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Speaker 5: is he a slot only player? With Lemon, I was

617
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Speaker 5: like just not one hundred percent sure of that archetype thing.

618
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 5: Where does he fit in? But really a fluid mover

619
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Speaker 5: somebody that I think can play above the rim. I

620
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 5: think has gotten better as a catcher over his college career,

621
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 5: but he does kind of over sell and overrun his routes,

622
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Speaker 5: and I think for those guys you kind of need him.

623
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Speaker 5: I come back to like Jerry Judy in twenty twenty

624
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 5: four with the Browns. Judy is an up and down

625
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 5: guy that kind of flunked as a slot player in

626
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 5: Denver because overrunning those routes, doesn't have the zone recognition

627
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 5: that you want. And then this past year he plays

628
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:07,040
Speaker 5: X receiver and it was a complete disaster. But when

629
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:09,200
Speaker 5: they use him as that movement Z off the ball

630
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:11,920
Speaker 5: and just hey, we're gonna have you run a route

631
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 5: and just one cut and that's it, just one cut.

632
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 5: Just don't be doing all the dancing and everything. That's

633
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 5: where you get the best one of the think Tyson

634
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 5: has a little bit of that as well, so he

635
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 5: could be obviously a good player. Judy's a starting receiver,

636
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:24,479
Speaker 5: but he's a frustrating guy, and I think that's sort

637
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:25,320
Speaker 5: of the limitation on here.

638
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 3: Indiana wide receiver Omar Cooper Junior is someone who's gotten

639
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:31,120
Speaker 3: mocked to Buffalo quite a bit. He's the guy that

640
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 3: specializes in yards after catch, has great contact balance. How

641
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 3: did he grade out in your system?

642
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 5: I think the thing that was most impressive about him,

643
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 5: in addition to the yards after catchability and just a

644
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 5: tough player too, blocks like crazy, really tenacious, gets good

645
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:46,680
Speaker 5: character reviews.

646
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Speaker 4: I think that's obviously exciting about him.

647
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:49,920
Speaker 5: But the thing I liked the best about him is

648
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:53,120
Speaker 5: just his leverage understanding of like breaking outside. So if

649
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 5: you can think about and you know, if we're thinking

650
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 5: about Buffalo, Josh loves to throw those like big outbreakers.

651
00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 5: So if you can line him up off ball out

652
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 5: outside or in the slot and you can get him

653
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 5: on those sale routes play action, that's gonna be a

654
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 5: lot of big plays. You saw that on the field

655
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:08,240
Speaker 5: consistently for Indiana this year. I do think there are

656
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:10,880
Speaker 5: some limitations for him his man covered stuff is just

657
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:12,560
Speaker 5: okay to me. I think he does need to get

658
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 5: better there. He gets kind of stuck at the top

659
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 5: of routes at the time. But is that athleticis an issue?

660
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:18,640
Speaker 5: I doubt it is a technique issue. Can he correct

661
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 5: that that's something sort of in order to grow his game.

662
00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:23,440
Speaker 5: But he's somebody that I understand, like how to apply

663
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 5: him to an offense. Right we're getting the ball in space,

664
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:28,080
Speaker 5: he's run after catch, very exciting player. I understand why

665
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 5: there's some hype on him. I think he's round two

666
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:32,959
Speaker 5: guy that maybe ends up going late round one. But

667
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 5: that seems pretty fair to me.

668
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:38,240
Speaker 1: Jeremy Bernard we heard from today also, and he seems

669
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 1: to be one of the more versatile guys. Has a

670
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:45,120
Speaker 1: good like he kind of has a pro body already,

671
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 1: like six one, two oh four, and you see some

672
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 1: of that physicality.

673
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:49,080
Speaker 2: In his game.

674
00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:54,000
Speaker 1: The thing that like almost perplexes me sometimes when I

675
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 1: watch him is it doesn't look like he's moving or

676
00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:00,400
Speaker 1: he's not sharp in his cuts at the top of

677
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 1: his route. He's more of like a smooth kind of

678
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 1: glider and a tempo changer. Yeah, I've never seen a

679
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:10,360
Speaker 1: college prospect like him change the tempo of his routes

680
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:11,759
Speaker 1: to get separation.

681
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:12,920
Speaker 2: The way he does. Do you do you see some

682
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:15,000
Speaker 2: of that yeah in his game because he seems to

683
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:16,240
Speaker 2: utilize that more than anybody.

684
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:18,440
Speaker 5: I think that's why he's one of the I'm not

685
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:19,759
Speaker 5: gonna say one of the best, but one of the

686
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:22,640
Speaker 5: better zone beaters I've seen in this class. I think

687
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:24,520
Speaker 5: it makes him a tough cover, especially working over the

688
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:26,919
Speaker 5: middle of the field. Definitely a guy that runs dig

689
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 5: routes really well. So if you have a quarterback that

690
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:31,359
Speaker 5: wants to push it over the middle, he makes sense there.

691
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:34,399
Speaker 5: Rugged reliable guy. I've kind of just like felt since

692
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:37,399
Speaker 5: I started watching him. Seems like really a good glue guy.

693
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:38,920
Speaker 5: You know, maybe he's never gonna be that one or

694
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:40,960
Speaker 5: that too, but it's like a three that hangs around

695
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:43,879
Speaker 5: and is really useful and product Like sometimes when you're

696
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:47,040
Speaker 5: talking about players, he's like, ah, he's useful, and that's

697
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:49,840
Speaker 5: like other times like he's useful, Like it's the inflection

698
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:52,160
Speaker 5: that matters when you say that, And I think he's

699
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 5: one of the guys i'd be like, he's useful.

700
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:56,080
Speaker 2: You know, that's bold and underlined exactly.

701
00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:59,799
Speaker 3: Another wide receiver who's probably the favorite in terms of

702
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:03,960
Speaker 3: Mocked to Buffalo Out twenty six is Washington wide receiver

703
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 3: Denzel Boston, who's a huge mismatch in the red zone

704
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:10,920
Speaker 3: due to his six or four size. How did he

705
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:11,839
Speaker 3: grade out for you?

706
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:14,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm a big fan of Boston. Somebody that whenever

707
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:17,400
Speaker 5: there's a big receiver, you always wonder, is he a

708
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 5: big receiver that's not a separator?

709
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 4: You know?

710
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 5: That was my thing with Keon Coleman when when the

711
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:23,719
Speaker 5: Bill's I thought he projected more as a guy that

712
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:26,440
Speaker 5: should move inside because he just didn't have the separation

713
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 5: skills to consistently win out on the perimeter. That was

714
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 5: my evaluation of him. For Denzel Boston, though, he's somebody

715
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:33,200
Speaker 5: that does show you an ability to get open. He's

716
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 5: got these long strides. I hate to compare anybody this

717
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 5: guy because he's like a legend, but he he's like

718
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 5: a Diet Coke Mike Evans in that way. I must say,

719
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 5: full bodied, full ABV like a bud light type of

720
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 5: type with Mike Evans there, you know, those long strides

721
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 5: that allows him to get open down the field. But

722
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 5: I also think the way he runs routes over the

723
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 5: middle of the field. I think he can play off

724
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:54,840
Speaker 5: ball too. He doesn't have to just be that X

725
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 5: receiver And really, like, if I'm the Bills, to me

726
00:35:57,840 --> 00:35:59,880
Speaker 5: that that's the type I think you need, is somebody

727
00:35:59,880 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 5: that can play outside but can also can move around

728
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:04,400
Speaker 5: as well, be so you can activate other players.

729
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:06,319
Speaker 4: But they do like a guy like Omar Cooper.

730
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 5: I get like why he would help this team, but

731
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:09,759
Speaker 5: they also kind of have It's like we kind of

732
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 5: have Omar Cooper at home in Khalil Shakir, you know

733
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 5: what I'm saying.

734
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:14,719
Speaker 4: That's very similar skill sets. A little bit overlapped there.

735
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 5: They got like Boston like, yeah, we do need somebody

736
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:18,239
Speaker 5: to start out at X receiver and they can get

737
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:19,799
Speaker 5: open and also play above the rim.

738
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:21,440
Speaker 4: He makes a lot of sense in that way too.

739
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:24,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, because I'm I'm wondering because if you listen to

740
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:29,320
Speaker 1: Joe Brady, I think he wants to make Keon Coleman

741
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 1: work And so it was hard for me not to

742
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:36,480
Speaker 1: think back to the success that Keon hand at Florida.

743
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:37,280
Speaker 2: State out of the slot.

744
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:40,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, and maybe that's where they move him and unlock him.

745
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:44,200
Speaker 1: And so now you need the big guy outside while

746
00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 1: you're trying to grow.

747
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:46,920
Speaker 2: Keon's game inside.

748
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:50,320
Speaker 1: What about a guy like Malachi Field who lit it

749
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:51,319
Speaker 1: up at the Senior Bowl.

750
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:53,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, I feel this is someone that I've seen kind

751
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 5: of like a wide range of opinions on I like

752
00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:59,239
Speaker 5: him a lot. He's somebody that's big, and I think

753
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:02,239
Speaker 5: his zone cover ridgibilities a little underrated, like stands out

754
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:04,680
Speaker 5: for a guy that's that's more playing out in the

755
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:06,959
Speaker 5: perimeter because typically like he's playing outside, like we wanted

756
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:08,359
Speaker 5: to beat Man covers. But if you're a good zone

757
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:11,399
Speaker 5: beater outside, you can be really reliable, possession type guy.

758
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 5: I do want to see what he runs. I don't

759
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 5: know what the speed, like the speeds the one thing

760
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 5: we'll see.

761
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:17,839
Speaker 1: To me, he looks like he's got the biggest catch

762
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:18,719
Speaker 1: radius in the whole time.

763
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, some of his cat are ridiculous, highlight real stuff.

764
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 5: Catch it and then like you can tell, like he

765
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 5: goes and calls his number like give me that, you know,

766
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:29,400
Speaker 5: give me that ball, like put it up for me,

767
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:30,279
Speaker 5: I'm gonna go get it.

768
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 4: Good good character reviews on him.

769
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 5: Hard Worker two, school Player two is at uva but

770
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:41,920
Speaker 5: very smart, school right right, And I think.

771
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:44,400
Speaker 4: You see the intelligence from him for sure. Yeah, I

772
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 4: like him a lot.

773
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:47,880
Speaker 5: He's one of these guys that could be come back to,

774
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:50,719
Speaker 5: like you know Justin Boone who works with me over Yah,

775
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:52,440
Speaker 5: and he's actually a Bills fan, so maybe he's like

776
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:56,120
Speaker 5: rooting for because I think he kind of puts it

777
00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 5: in the bucket in a really right, right correct way,

778
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:01,720
Speaker 5: where like Nico Collins, Nico's like a stud.

779
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:03,359
Speaker 4: He's like a top five receiver in the league. Now

780
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:04,680
Speaker 4: to me, I think he's awesome, and.

781
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:06,560
Speaker 5: You know, there's probably like eight top five receivers, but

782
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 5: he's of that caliber, right, But he was not that

783
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 5: guy his first couple of years. He was kind of

784
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 5: he was playing a lot because he's an X receiver,

785
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 5: so he's not gonna leave the field.

786
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:15,839
Speaker 4: He's going to be out there all the time.

787
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:18,319
Speaker 5: And that experience just growing on the job, and I

788
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:20,760
Speaker 5: was on the film was to get the reception. Perception

789
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:23,200
Speaker 5: was way better than the stats with the guy like

790
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:25,799
Speaker 5: Nico Collins. But in time then the production caught up

791
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:27,839
Speaker 5: when the situation got better. But he had just so

792
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 5: many reps because like day one is a third round pick,

793
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 5: he was essentially out there as that X receiver. I

794
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:35,319
Speaker 5: feel I think the fields this was Boon's sort of

795
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:37,440
Speaker 5: like optimistic journey path for him.

796
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:38,480
Speaker 4: I think that that's sort of something to.

797
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:40,480
Speaker 2: Take that.

798
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, who's the biggest separator in the class. A lot

799
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 3: of people in Buffalo want to talk speed and what

800
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 3: speed could do with Josh Allen, who separates that's definitely.

801
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:50,840
Speaker 5: Casey conception on I think the best separator, But I

802
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:54,879
Speaker 5: will say Carnel Tait, which obviously that would be a big,

803
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:56,800
Speaker 5: a long shot that he finds his way to Buffalo.

804
00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:58,240
Speaker 4: But he's got some great.

805
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:00,719
Speaker 5: Success rate verse man coverage numbers of and I've tried

806
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:02,800
Speaker 5: a lot of good Man beaters the last few classes.

807
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:04,440
Speaker 5: His numbers are going to be up there by the

808
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:06,319
Speaker 5: time the full sample runs out. He just is so

809
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:10,359
Speaker 5: good in the vertical game, especially really refined player, so

810
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:11,200
Speaker 5: he's definitely up there.

811
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 4: That's the thing. Like, it's one thing to I.

812
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:17,839
Speaker 5: Guess there's like real a nerdy difference between like good

813
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:20,759
Speaker 5: route running versus separation. To me, it's like I would

814
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:22,400
Speaker 5: I'd rather have the guy that's a good route runner

815
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:24,279
Speaker 5: than a good separator. Of course, you want somebody that's both.

816
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 5: That's awesome, but those are like the best receivers in

817
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:28,560
Speaker 5: the league. So to me, it's like, I think that

818
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:30,840
Speaker 5: route running really matters a lot, and he's somebody that

819
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:32,799
Speaker 5: certainly is there. But yeah, if we're talking about just

820
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 5: pure separation and I think good route running, Casey is

821
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:36,399
Speaker 5: up there.

822
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 1: Any offers punt returnability too, Yeah, he's a two for one.

823
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 1: Tell me about a sleeper in your system that keeps

824
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:51,880
Speaker 1: getting spit out pretty high on your board, but nobody

825
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:55,160
Speaker 1: is talking about right now that you feel could translate

826
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:57,120
Speaker 1: well to the NFL game based on what your numbers

827
00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:57,640
Speaker 1: are spitting out.

828
00:39:57,800 --> 00:39:59,880
Speaker 5: He got a little pop at the Senior Bowl, but

829
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:03,399
Speaker 5: lower level of competition. Ted Hurst out of Georgia State,

830
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 5: He's not here. Who's not here? Yeah, which is kind

831
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:08,439
Speaker 5: of surprising. And obviously that like makes you a big

832
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:10,840
Speaker 5: long shot if you don't get invited to combline historically,

833
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:12,320
Speaker 5: but certainly somebody.

834
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 4: I think you want to.

835
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:15,359
Speaker 5: You want to turn on the tape of a guy

836
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 5: at a lower level like that that's not one of

837
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:19,440
Speaker 5: the bigger schools, one of the bigger programs and be like, Okay,

838
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:21,239
Speaker 5: he stands out right away, and I think he does.

839
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:22,719
Speaker 5: He reminds me a little bit of like Tory Horton

840
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:24,759
Speaker 5: and last years draft class I was a huge fan

841
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:26,719
Speaker 5: of it. Should not have been a fifth round pick,

842
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 5: but the medicals and obviously he had a season ending

843
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 5: injuries with the here, so you know, maybe the medicals

844
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:31,359
Speaker 5: were right.

845
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:33,400
Speaker 4: But somebody I really liked in that regard, he kind

846
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:34,000
Speaker 4: of reminds.

847
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 2: You of him. So before we go to break here

848
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:36,440
Speaker 2: and thanks for the time again.

849
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:40,839
Speaker 1: Of course, what what metrics did he excel at in

850
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:41,720
Speaker 1: your system?

851
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:43,680
Speaker 2: Like, what do you remember what he ranked high at?

852
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:43,920
Speaker 4: Yeah?

853
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:45,959
Speaker 5: Yeah, the thing the things that stood out to him

854
00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:48,919
Speaker 5: particularly was kind of those crossing routes over the middle

855
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 5: of the field, and I think also on those more

856
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:53,920
Speaker 5: build up routes down the field field as well. So

857
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:55,600
Speaker 5: and then got very similar to how I felt about

858
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 5: Tory Horton. A lot of agility there. But yeah, his

859
00:40:57,760 --> 00:40:59,440
Speaker 5: like success rate versus man coverage is going to be

860
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:01,719
Speaker 5: a good one, which again, the league is very zone

861
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:04,120
Speaker 5: coverage heavy, so people think like the zone numbers matter

862
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 5: more and they and they do matter a ton, And

863
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 5: to go back to archetypes, it does depend a lot

864
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:11,560
Speaker 5: who you are as a player within the position, but

865
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 5: for those man coverage numbers, it's it's still I think

866
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:16,399
Speaker 5: the best like player isolating one because it's a one

867
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 5: on one situation and you show how good of a

868
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 5: technician you are and your athleticism as well.

869
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:23,800
Speaker 1: Thanks for the info. As always, we'll be pointing people

870
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:27,239
Speaker 1: in your direction at Perception Perception at Yahoo Sports. Matt

871
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:29,880
Speaker 1: Harmon helping us out with the receiver class here. We

872
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 1: will take a break and when we come back it

873
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 1: is official on Sam Franklin. We'll talk about that when

874
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 1: we return here on One Bill's Live.

875
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Speaker 2: Back here on One Bill's Live.

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Speaker 1: before the break, it is now official.

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Speaker 2: Sam Franklin has re signed with.

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Speaker 1: The Bills three year deal, reportedly for seven and a

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00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:38,680
Speaker 1: half million dollars. So that's another player back in the

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Speaker 1: fold that was on Buffalo's free agent list.

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Speaker 2: We also officially.

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Speaker 1: Got the salary cap figure. The league said a month

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Speaker 1: ago that the range was going to be between three

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00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:54,400
Speaker 1: hundred and one three hundred and five million dollars for

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Speaker 1: the twenty twenty six salary cap, and it ended up

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Speaker 1: being three to zero one and change, So it's on

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Speaker 1: the low end of the range that they gave them.

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Speaker 1: They also have released the official franchise tag and transition

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Speaker 1: tag numbers for each position. Franchise tag number for quarterback

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Speaker 1: Mattie is now forty three point eight nine million dollars.

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Speaker 1: Other places that you know could be of interest, obviously

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Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys are saying they're going to franchise George

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00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:34,240
Speaker 1: Pickens at wide receiver. The tag number they are twenty

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00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:36,799
Speaker 1: seven point twenty nine million. Uh.

903
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Speaker 2: And then some of the other numbers that might be

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Speaker 2: of interest.

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Speaker 1: Defensive tackle twenty seven to one, defensive end twenty four

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00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:52,920
Speaker 1: to four, tight ends up to fifteen now wow, wow, kicker.

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00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:53,800
Speaker 2: Six point six.

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00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:56,759
Speaker 3: I want to be a kicker when I grew up.

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00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:00,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I should have tried to kick field goal instead

910
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:02,160
Speaker 1: of trying to play soccer.

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00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:02,880
Speaker 2: What an idiot?

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00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:06,120
Speaker 3: Do you ever think about that? My husband sometimes is like, oh,

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Speaker 3: I should have tried.

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Speaker 2: Well, he's tall enough to pull that off goalie too. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: so he's tall enough, I am not.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Mike Hollis was a kicker in the league,

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Speaker 1: and that's the only kicker I have stood eyeball to

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Speaker 1: eyeball with in the NFL because he was at He

919
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:21,920
Speaker 1: might have even been a hitch shorter than me. But

920
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:25,160
Speaker 1: I don't think I ever had a leg like he did.

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Speaker 1: He played one year for the Bills, played most of

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Speaker 1: his career in Jacksonville, and his most famous kick for

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Speaker 1: the Bills is probably the one that sent it to

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00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 1: overtime Week two, two thousand and two at Minnesota Wild Game,

925
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:44,920
Speaker 1: and he tied it at thirty nine to send it

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Speaker 1: to overtime, and then Peerless Price had the overtime winner.

927
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Speaker 1: I think it was like a fifty four yard catch

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Speaker 1: and run for a touchdown. That was an amazing game,

929
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Speaker 1: so loud in the Metrodome, Holy cow, it was bananas

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00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:56,439
Speaker 1: that game.

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Speaker 2: Back and forth. It was like a ping pong match.

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Speaker 2: I digress. So yeah, those are the.

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Speaker 1: Franchise tags that are now official. Three hundred and one

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Speaker 1: point two million is the cap. I'm sure Brandon Bean

935
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Speaker 1: was hoping it was closer to three h five. So

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Speaker 1: maybe a little bit more work to do there as

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Speaker 1: the Bills are still working to become cap compliant.

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Speaker 2: And I think there.

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Speaker 1: Are gonna be some hard discussions here over the next

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Speaker 1: few days, Maddy, because we talked about some of the

941
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:26,800
Speaker 1: larger cap figures that are still on the roster.

942
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Speaker 2: We know they restructured Spencer.

943
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:31,640
Speaker 1: Brown already to save I think, if I remember reading

944
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:35,480
Speaker 1: it right, almost six million in cap space. I would

945
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Speaker 1: presume they do something with Dawson Knox's contract with the

946
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:42,320
Speaker 1: fourteen million dollar cap figure, which is like in line

947
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Speaker 1: with the franchise tag that's got to be adjusted there.

948
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Speaker 1: So we'll see what they do with Dawson and whether

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Speaker 1: he's asked to take a pay cut.

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00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:52,359
Speaker 2: Whether they restructure an add a year or two.

951
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:56,759
Speaker 1: And then Curtis Samuel is another player who, after two

952
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Speaker 1: very unproductive years marred to a great degree by injury

953
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Speaker 1: and availability, is he and the cards for the team's future.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: It's a big cap number for a guy that got

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Speaker 1: you seven receptions last year, and you're.

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00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 3: Just hoping that you could see what it would look

958
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Speaker 3: like with Joe Brady and Curtis Samuel back together. Samuel

959
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Speaker 3: had career numbers when he was with Brady and we

960
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:22,319
Speaker 3: haven't gotten to see that, and who knows if we will.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and how long are they willing to wait for

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00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:29,120
Speaker 1: that to materialize. They've waited two years and it hasn't happened.

963
00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:31,840
Speaker 1: So and this is you know, this is probably the

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Speaker 1: time of year that coaches and gms especially do not

965
00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:37,799
Speaker 1: like because it's time where they got to make the

966
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:39,719
Speaker 1: tough decisions and it's why they make the money that

967
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:42,279
Speaker 1: they make to do what's best for the team as

968
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Speaker 1: a whole, and sometimes that's not what's best for an

969
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:46,719
Speaker 1: individual player or two.

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00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 2: So and the Bills are not alone.

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Speaker 1: There's thirty one other teams that are doing a lot

972
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Speaker 1: of this same stuff, maybe with the exception of the

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Speaker 1: Raiders and the Tennessee Titans, who have cap.

974
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Speaker 2: Room out the wazoo.

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Speaker 1: Right now, Raiders are over ninety five million and the

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Speaker 1: Titans are over one hundred million. So maybe less than

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Speaker 1: one hundred million now because they took on Jermaine Johnson's

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Speaker 1: contract in the trade.

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Speaker 2: Of to Andandre Sweat, But still I would bet they.

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Speaker 1: I would venture to guess they still lead the league

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Speaker 1: in that category.

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Speaker 2: It is an OBL Friday fan mail bag. So Manny

983
00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:26,160
Speaker 2: and I need to hear from you.

984
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:29,960
Speaker 1: Submit your questions, whether it's about the draft class in general,

985
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:36,000
Speaker 1: the NFL Combine, testing player prospects, the roster, free agency,

986
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Speaker 1: whatever's on your mind. Fire it off at us and

987
00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:42,880
Speaker 1: we will let you know and do our best to

988
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:45,160
Speaker 1: give you a coherent and informative answer.

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00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:48,120
Speaker 2: I think we're going to step aside and take a

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Speaker 2: break here.

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Speaker 1: When we come back, we will answer some of those questions,

992
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:53,440
Speaker 1: but we'll also talk about what the wide receivers are

993
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:56,160
Speaker 1: saying about the Buffalo Bills, because that's ground we have

994
00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:58,719
Speaker 1: not yet covered, and it's been a lot said over here,

995
00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:01,839
Speaker 1: and Matty has been due to week taking down multiple.

996
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:03,880
Speaker 3: Days, we got multiple precision groups to talk about.

997
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:06,279
Speaker 1: So we will do that in the second hour of

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Speaker 1: the show when we get back here on One Bill's

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Speaker 1: Live presented by Kalida Health. This this is One Bills

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Speaker 1: Live presented by Kalida Health. All right back here at

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Speaker 1: the NFL Combine Live in Indianapolis. Chris Brown, Matti glab

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00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:08,759
Speaker 1: with you on a Friday. It's an OBL Friday fan mailbag.

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00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:12,000
Speaker 1: So any question you've got about the Bills, the combine,

1004
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:16,799
Speaker 1: the draft, the draft class, what could be coming our way? Offensively,

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00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:20,000
Speaker 1: Letter Rip, you can hit us up with your questions

1006
00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:22,879
Speaker 1: add one Bills live on Twitter x whatever you call

1007
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:26,600
Speaker 1: the app these days. But in the meantime, we wanted

1008
00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:29,520
Speaker 1: to kind of spin you around this draft class, to

1009
00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:34,080
Speaker 1: tell you what the prospects are saying about the Buffalo Bills,

1010
00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:37,080
Speaker 1: whether it's their general knowledge of them, what they think

1011
00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:40,600
Speaker 1: of players on that roster, the coaching change, what have you.

1012
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:44,560
Speaker 1: Maddie has been dutifully taking notes on that because you

1013
00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:47,400
Speaker 1: actually have to put a story together four Buffalo Bills

1014
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:50,719
Speaker 1: dot Com. So I will turn it over to you,

1015
00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:53,399
Speaker 1: Mattie in terms of why don't we begin here?

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00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:54,760
Speaker 3: Can you want to start with wide receivers?

1017
00:49:56,600 --> 00:49:57,640
Speaker 2: Sure we can do that.

1018
00:49:57,719 --> 00:49:59,239
Speaker 1: I guess I was going to ask you, and maybe

1019
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:01,759
Speaker 1: this might be too hard search through your copious notes there.

1020
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:03,239
Speaker 1: I was going to ask you, what was the most

1021
00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:06,800
Speaker 1: interesting thing that kind of maybe even caught you off guard,

1022
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:09,839
Speaker 1: that wasn't the typical Oh yeah, you know, I had

1023
00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:12,560
Speaker 1: a really good meeting. I liked that player in this player.

1024
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:14,640
Speaker 1: Was there anybody that had anything I.

1025
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:16,960
Speaker 3: Thought the most? So what we do to like gather

1026
00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:19,480
Speaker 3: all this stuff is the team back in Buffalo. We

1027
00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:22,200
Speaker 3: go through every prospect and we figure out who is

1028
00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:26,480
Speaker 3: connected to the Buffalo Bills, the current roster of the

1029
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:29,640
Speaker 3: Buffalo Bills. And you saw a ton. I mean, Jordan Hancock,

1030
00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:32,399
Speaker 3: who was a rookie last year from Ohio State, had

1031
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:36,120
Speaker 3: a million connections to all the Ohio State players. He

1032
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:39,879
Speaker 3: had the most interesting connection. So I had a fun

1033
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:45,319
Speaker 3: time writing about defensive tackle nose tackle Kaden MacDonald out

1034
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:50,319
Speaker 3: of Ohio State. Cayden and Jordan Hancock grew up a

1035
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:53,120
Speaker 3: block away from each other, not in Ohio. It's not

1036
00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:55,560
Speaker 3: like they're Ohio boys who decided to go to Ohio State.

1037
00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:58,560
Speaker 3: They're from Suwanee, Georgia, and they grew up a block away.

1038
00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:01,600
Speaker 3: He talked about how they played aau basketball together and

1039
00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:04,279
Speaker 3: won a tournament together. He said, I used to walk

1040
00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:06,200
Speaker 3: over to his house all the time when I was

1041
00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:09,000
Speaker 3: a kid, and our families are really close, and I

1042
00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:11,080
Speaker 3: have so much respect for him and I would love

1043
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Speaker 3: to link back up with him in Buffalo. It would

1044
00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:16,040
Speaker 3: be a blessing to be back on his team. And

1045
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:18,960
Speaker 3: if you're wondering, Okay, who's Kate McDonald played for Ohio

1046
00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:23,440
Speaker 3: State sixty two three hundred twenty six pounds, had nine

1047
00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 3: three sacks in his career, eighty five total tackles, All

1048
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Speaker 3: America Honors in twenty twenty five and won the Big

1049
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:33,840
Speaker 3: Ten Conferences Smith Brown Defensive Lineman of the Year awards.

1050
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:36,319
Speaker 3: So I thought that was the coolest connection that I

1051
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:39,400
Speaker 3: came across. Another guy who was fun to listen in

1052
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:43,600
Speaker 3: on was Red Murdoch out of you B, because it's

1053
00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:46,799
Speaker 3: always nice to see university at Buffalo guy here at

1054
00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:49,719
Speaker 3: the NFL Scott in Combine, and he spoke about how

1055
00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:53,640
Speaker 3: much pride he has representing you be, knowing that he's

1056
00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:56,600
Speaker 3: representing for guys who didn't get an opportunity and guys

1057
00:51:56,600 --> 00:51:59,239
Speaker 3: who are gonna come after him. He spoke about Joey

1058
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:04,440
Speaker 3: and Dreeson and Sean Dolac and really being thankful that

1059
00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:06,759
Speaker 3: he got to learn from them and play with them,

1060
00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:09,960
Speaker 3: and said, you know, I'd be happy to stay in Buffalo.

1061
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:12,479
Speaker 3: The cold doesn't bother me. It'd be amazing to play

1062
00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:15,319
Speaker 3: next to Joanrieson. So that was a fun conversation to

1063
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:18,200
Speaker 3: have and cool to shine some light on, YOUB.

1064
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Speaker 2: I've seen him play I've seen some of his.

1065
00:52:21,239 --> 00:52:25,719
Speaker 1: Tape, and Red has a physical presence. I'm just gonna

1066
00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:29,320
Speaker 1: say that, Like you notice him right away. He hits

1067
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Speaker 1: people hard, and he's certainly got the requisite size and

1068
00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:38,200
Speaker 1: he's six two two thirty two, And if he times

1069
00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:42,839
Speaker 1: well here, he could go from like a late day

1070
00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:45,239
Speaker 1: three pick to an early day three pick. There's a

1071
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Speaker 1: lot on the line for a guy like that. So

1072
00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:53,759
Speaker 1: timing well will will do enormous things.

1073
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Speaker 2: For his draft stock.

1074
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Speaker 1: You know, because we talk all the time, you get

1075
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Speaker 1: some guys that are their draft stock is so high

1076
00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:01,440
Speaker 1: they're like, yeah, I'm not even gonna work out, you know,

1077
00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:04,080
Speaker 1: Marvin Harrison Junior for example, a couple of years ago.

1078
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Speaker 1: For a guy like Red Murdoch, testing well here is

1079
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:12,719
Speaker 1: almost literally for all the marbles. I mean, it can

1080
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:15,399
Speaker 1: make a huge difference, I think for his draft stock.

1081
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Speaker 1: And last year we had Sean Dolac on our show,

1082
00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:21,400
Speaker 1: Steve and I did leading up to the draft. I

1083
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:22,960
Speaker 1: think it was like a week before the draft we

1084
00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:25,960
Speaker 1: had him on and you know, talking to him and

1085
00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:28,440
Speaker 1: wishing him good luck and everything, because I thought he

1086
00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:30,280
Speaker 1: was going to be like a six round pick somewhere

1087
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Speaker 1: in there, and he ends up going undrafted and the

1088
00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:37,120
Speaker 1: Rams signed and you look up, you pick your head

1089
00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:40,080
Speaker 1: up at mid season and there's Dolac getting play, making

1090
00:53:40,120 --> 00:53:43,719
Speaker 1: plays largely on special teams, but did get some run

1091
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:44,880
Speaker 1: on the defensive.

1092
00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:45,040
Speaker 2: Side of the ball.

1093
00:53:45,160 --> 00:53:49,320
Speaker 1: So yeah, we've seen it happen before, especially at that position,

1094
00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:50,560
Speaker 1: the linebacker positions.

1095
00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:52,720
Speaker 2: So I think Red's got a shot.

1096
00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:55,080
Speaker 1: And you know, we're rooting for him to test well

1097
00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:57,680
Speaker 1: here so he can prove his improve his draft stock.

1098
00:53:57,880 --> 00:54:01,680
Speaker 3: Seventeen forced fumbles during his career, right, either, that's an

1099
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:04,480
Speaker 3: NC Double A record. Yeah, and he had he ranked

1100
00:54:04,520 --> 00:54:06,960
Speaker 3: second in the NC Double A in total tackles the

1101
00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:11,320
Speaker 3: last two seasons, both well over one hundred, so yeah,

1102
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:13,719
Speaker 3: and he was asked about his speed and said, you know,

1103
00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:15,920
Speaker 3: I make up for that and how hard I hit people.

1104
00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:18,640
Speaker 3: So it will be interesting to see what that forty

1105
00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:24,400
Speaker 3: time is. Other players who had interesting connections to the Bills.

1106
00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:27,520
Speaker 3: There is a defensive end Wesley Williams who played for Duke.

1107
00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:31,680
Speaker 3: Him and Dwayne were pretty tight, and he just spoke about, yeah,

1108
00:54:31,719 --> 00:54:34,520
Speaker 3: Dwayne Carter. He just spoke about Dwayne Carter's character and

1109
00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:37,080
Speaker 3: how going to Duke, that's you know, you really try

1110
00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:41,160
Speaker 3: and embody to have a great character and said that

1111
00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:45,200
Speaker 3: Dwayne was somebody who he really followed after, looked up to,

1112
00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:47,839
Speaker 3: and said that he would love to get an opportunity

1113
00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:51,480
Speaker 3: to play with him. He's Wesley Williams's defensive end. His

1114
00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:53,600
Speaker 3: sixty three two hundred and sixty five pounds, had one

1115
00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:57,800
Speaker 3: hundred and thirty one total tackles across his career, eleven sacks,

1116
00:54:58,239 --> 00:55:01,959
Speaker 3: and he was a team captain last season honorable mention

1117
00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:06,759
Speaker 3: a all a CC. So that's a little bit of

1118
00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:09,960
Speaker 3: information on him. If you're looking at the wide receivers.

1119
00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:14,839
Speaker 3: So Denzel Boston, who has been a favorite name surrounding

1120
00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:17,640
Speaker 3: getting mocked to the Buffalo Bills. He's been mocked several

1121
00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:20,560
Speaker 3: times now to the Bills at twenty six. I asked

1122
00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:22,600
Speaker 3: him what it would be like to catch passes from

1123
00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:25,480
Speaker 3: Josh Allen and he said it would definitely be special.

1124
00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:28,719
Speaker 3: He said, that's the top quarterback in the country or

1125
00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:31,680
Speaker 3: in the world, and he said that to be able

1126
00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:34,719
Speaker 3: to do that would be spectacular. So it's always fun

1127
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:37,440
Speaker 3: listening to these wide receivers and see them light up

1128
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:41,520
Speaker 3: when you talk about a quarterback like Josh Allen. Boston

1129
00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:44,040
Speaker 3: did say he met with the Bills as well. And

1130
00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:48,600
Speaker 3: then Tennessee wide receiver Chris Brazil, who is a taller

1131
00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:51,319
Speaker 3: wide receiver. I want to get his I think he's

1132
00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:55,719
Speaker 3: six four six five two hundred pounds, and you can

1133
00:55:55,840 --> 00:55:58,520
Speaker 3: see that with him the way that he plays on

1134
00:55:58,560 --> 00:56:01,040
Speaker 3: the field. He really uses his size to his advantage

1135
00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:03,960
Speaker 3: and also has some speed about him as well. Even

1136
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:07,280
Speaker 3: though he's these two hundred pounds, he is speedy, he's fluid,

1137
00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:11,360
Speaker 3: a good body control. I asked him about the Buffalo Bills,

1138
00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:13,880
Speaker 3: he said, I have not. I did not have a

1139
00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:16,480
Speaker 3: meeting with the Bills. Still wanted to ask him about

1140
00:56:16,560 --> 00:56:19,600
Speaker 3: Josh Allen though, and he said that's his favorite quarterback

1141
00:56:19,680 --> 00:56:22,360
Speaker 3: to watch because of the way that he plays the position,

1142
00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:25,399
Speaker 3: because of his physicality and his talents. That I would

1143
00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:27,719
Speaker 3: love to match up with a quarterback like that.

1144
00:56:28,040 --> 00:56:31,360
Speaker 2: Yep, he's entertaining to watch. We all know that.

1145
00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:34,399
Speaker 3: And then it was also cool to hear from some

1146
00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:38,520
Speaker 3: of these players who overlapped with some of our new coaches,

1147
00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:42,600
Speaker 3: because defensively, we have hired a lot of coaches that

1148
00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:46,279
Speaker 3: come straight out of college football, for example, cornerbacks coach

1149
00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:50,840
Speaker 3: javel I. So we asked defensive end our Mason Thomas

1150
00:56:51,239 --> 00:56:56,000
Speaker 3: about Javali, who also spent time at Oklahoma, and said

1151
00:56:56,040 --> 00:57:00,240
Speaker 3: that he really did a fantastic job of developing young player.

1152
00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:03,040
Speaker 3: He said he developed two freshmans who became All Americans

1153
00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:07,399
Speaker 3: quickly and said he's a he's a player's coach who

1154
00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:10,200
Speaker 3: believes in his players and he wants to get the

1155
00:57:10,239 --> 00:57:14,200
Speaker 3: best out of them. I also talked to another wide

1156
00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:19,520
Speaker 3: receiver today about javel I, Dion Burks out of Oklahoma,

1157
00:57:19,640 --> 00:57:23,000
Speaker 3: and he said that it was tough going against Javali

1158
00:57:23,120 --> 00:57:26,280
Speaker 3: and practice and just that cornerbacks group, and said that

1159
00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:29,200
Speaker 3: javel I always made it hard on us wide receivers,

1160
00:57:29,560 --> 00:57:32,120
Speaker 3: but a really great coach. You're going to get great

1161
00:57:32,120 --> 00:57:34,200
Speaker 3: things out of him with the Bill, So it was

1162
00:57:34,240 --> 00:57:36,600
Speaker 3: fun to kind of put two and two together and

1163
00:57:36,680 --> 00:57:41,880
Speaker 3: hear about that. Also spoke to a Stanford player on

1164
00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:45,680
Speaker 3: defense and he spoke about Bobby April, who is the

1165
00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:48,480
Speaker 3: outside linebackers coach for the Bills now. He was a

1166
00:57:48,520 --> 00:57:51,960
Speaker 3: defensive coordinator with Stanford for a few seasons and he

1167
00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:56,360
Speaker 3: said that Bobby April is somebody who held his players

1168
00:57:56,400 --> 00:58:00,000
Speaker 3: to a very high standard. Had a very versatile defense

1169
00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:03,120
Speaker 3: at Stanford and said that he did a great job

1170
00:58:03,120 --> 00:58:07,160
Speaker 3: of focusing on individual talent versus group talent. So just

1171
00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:09,920
Speaker 3: a little bit about the new coaches. You're hearing it

1172
00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:11,880
Speaker 3: from guys who spent years with these coaches.

1173
00:58:12,160 --> 00:58:17,200
Speaker 2: Oh, that's some cool connections there, for sure. Yeah, I almost.

1174
00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:20,760
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not staying here through the weekend, but

1175
00:58:21,080 --> 00:58:23,200
Speaker 1: I always like hearing from players, and we got more

1176
00:58:23,240 --> 00:58:25,680
Speaker 1: coming through over the weekend because the testing.

1177
00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:26,600
Speaker 2: Doesn't end until Monday.

1178
00:58:28,920 --> 00:58:31,919
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean, it's interesting what you can pull

1179
00:58:31,960 --> 00:58:35,040
Speaker 1: from the players just in the interview settings here for

1180
00:58:35,080 --> 00:58:40,240
Speaker 1: the media. And you know, Concepcione just talking about being

1181
00:58:40,280 --> 00:58:43,600
Speaker 1: born in Rochester and his dad's from there and he's

1182
00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:46,880
Speaker 1: a Bills fan, and how we watch Bill's games as

1183
00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:48,600
Speaker 1: a kid because his dad always had the game on

1184
00:58:49,600 --> 00:58:50,960
Speaker 1: and be an honor to play for them.

1185
00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:53,080
Speaker 2: That's like, oh my gosh, Like, can you imagine if

1186
00:58:53,080 --> 00:58:54,240
Speaker 2: the Pills traft that guy?

1187
00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:57,080
Speaker 3: Somebody who and they interviewed him, So somebody who's not

1188
00:58:57,120 --> 00:58:59,960
Speaker 3: going to be available for Buffalo at number twenty six,

1189
00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:02,520
Speaker 3: who did talk about the Bills. Because there's an Ohio

1190
00:59:02,520 --> 00:59:06,560
Speaker 3: State connection there. Linebacker Sonny Styles, who played at Ohio State,

1191
00:59:06,640 --> 00:59:09,640
Speaker 3: overlapped with Jordan Hancock for a couple seasons, and he

1192
00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:12,200
Speaker 3: said that Jordan Hancock reached out to him before this

1193
00:59:12,280 --> 00:59:15,320
Speaker 3: week and gave him some advice, just to be yourself,

1194
00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:18,040
Speaker 3: be confident, you've done enough to get to this position.

1195
00:59:18,840 --> 00:59:21,720
Speaker 3: Just go out there and don't stress and ball out,

1196
00:59:21,760 --> 00:59:24,320
Speaker 3: and then said he he wouldn't mind being back in

1197
00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:28,120
Speaker 3: Buffalo with him. He said, that's my guy, because Styles

1198
00:59:28,200 --> 00:59:31,160
Speaker 3: ran a four four six. Because of his size at

1199
00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:36,240
Speaker 3: at six five forty four pounds, he's gonna be off

1200
00:59:36,240 --> 00:59:36,880
Speaker 3: the board at the top.

1201
00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:40,040
Speaker 1: Two hundred forty four pounds man jumping forty three and

1202
00:59:40,080 --> 00:59:42,560
Speaker 1: a half inches is riduculous.

1203
00:59:42,640 --> 00:59:45,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, like that's just stupid.

1204
00:59:45,080 --> 00:59:47,480
Speaker 1: And then he's eleven two in the broad jump, and

1205
00:59:47,520 --> 00:59:49,120
Speaker 1: I think he even had a really good short shut.

1206
00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:52,480
Speaker 2: It was in like the four twos. So for a

1207
00:59:52,520 --> 00:59:55,640
Speaker 2: man that's six' five to forty four doing all of those,

1208
00:59:55,680 --> 01:00:00,920
Speaker 2: things it's just. Nuts and we it's stunned by.

1209
01:00:00,800 --> 01:00:04,120
Speaker 1: It every year here by a couple of people and we're,

1210
01:00:04,160 --> 01:00:04,800
Speaker 1: like how are they?

1211
01:00:05,120 --> 01:00:06,720
Speaker 3: Doing how do these athletes?

1212
01:00:06,760 --> 01:00:10,840
Speaker 1: Exist and you, know his Teammate Rvil reese was almost as.

1213
01:00:10,880 --> 01:00:14,320
Speaker 2: Good, so, yeah they killed it.

1214
01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:17,600
Speaker 1: Yesterday and look there's gonna be some dbs that burn

1215
01:00:17,680 --> 01:00:21,400
Speaker 1: up the track. Today there's just the athletes and the

1216
01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:26,400
Speaker 1: training and the advances there just have really pushed the

1217
01:00:26,480 --> 01:00:29,640
Speaker 1: limits of what the human body is capable, of especially

1218
01:00:29,640 --> 01:00:33,040
Speaker 1: when it's blessed with enormous athletic, ability which dollars to

1219
01:00:33,120 --> 01:00:35,840
Speaker 1: donuts is just about everybody they got invited. Here so

1220
01:00:37,320 --> 01:00:40,960
Speaker 1: the testing is interesting because you really see where the

1221
01:00:41,000 --> 01:00:44,120
Speaker 1: training is going to make these guys excel in all

1222
01:00:44,160 --> 01:00:48,400
Speaker 1: of this. Testing but the, explosiveness the explosive, testing which

1223
01:00:48,440 --> 01:00:51,720
Speaker 1: is basically your ten yard split on the forty yard

1224
01:00:52,320 --> 01:00:57,360
Speaker 1: dash and then vertical, leap broad, jump those are the

1225
01:00:57,480 --> 01:01:03,640
Speaker 1: explosive testing metrics that teams rely upon to know if

1226
01:01:03,640 --> 01:01:06,959
Speaker 1: you have an edge, guy how good is his get?

1227
01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:11,560
Speaker 1: Off oh he vertical leaped thirty eight, Inches, okay check that.

1228
01:01:11,680 --> 01:01:14,440
Speaker 2: Box you, know broad jump ten to?

1229
01:01:14,560 --> 01:01:18,040
Speaker 1: Ten check that box and then is his ten yards

1230
01:01:18,120 --> 01:01:20,000
Speaker 1: split one six or?

1231
01:01:20,080 --> 01:01:23,280
Speaker 2: Under and if it, is you can probably check that box.

1232
01:01:23,280 --> 01:01:26,800
Speaker 2: Too so there's value in all of that.

1233
01:01:26,880 --> 01:01:30,160
Speaker 1: Stuff it was interesting, though Today, maddy because the receivers

1234
01:01:30,160 --> 01:01:34,720
Speaker 1: were some of them were delayed today by almost two, hours,

1235
01:01:36,720 --> 01:01:40,080
Speaker 1: Right AND i think just so people are aware sometimes

1236
01:01:40,120 --> 01:01:45,240
Speaker 1: the problem is these players all go in the order

1237
01:01:45,720 --> 01:01:49,600
Speaker 1: in terms of their position, numbers and when they get

1238
01:01:49,640 --> 01:01:52,880
Speaker 1: to the medical, testing they go into six or seven

1239
01:01:52,920 --> 01:01:55,960
Speaker 1: different rooms because all the doctors that work for all

1240
01:01:56,000 --> 01:01:58,480
Speaker 1: thirty two teams in the, league along with independent, doctors

1241
01:01:58,520 --> 01:02:02,240
Speaker 1: are here to PULL prod check every, joint you, know

1242
01:02:02,360 --> 01:02:05,680
Speaker 1: full examination the, works and then those exams are shared

1243
01:02:05,720 --> 01:02:10,760
Speaker 1: amongst the. Teams if you have a guy with an

1244
01:02:10,760 --> 01:02:14,800
Speaker 1: injury history and he goes in there and they're being

1245
01:02:15,560 --> 01:02:19,480
Speaker 1: extra thorough and it's taking longer for that medical exam to,

1246
01:02:19,600 --> 01:02:22,760
Speaker 1: finish the five guys behind him waiting in line for

1247
01:02:22,800 --> 01:02:25,400
Speaker 1: their medical are going to be delayed out here and,

1248
01:02:25,600 --> 01:02:29,240
Speaker 1: media and sometimes they don't even get. Here so we

1249
01:02:29,240 --> 01:02:31,600
Speaker 1: were wondering about that With Omar Cooper, junior who was

1250
01:02:31,640 --> 01:02:34,160
Speaker 1: supposed to talk at ten thirty didn't get here until

1251
01:02:34,200 --> 01:02:38,360
Speaker 1: about twelve. Forty SO i don't think it was, him

1252
01:02:38,400 --> 01:02:40,200
Speaker 1: BUT i wouldn't be surprised if there was somebody in

1253
01:02:40,280 --> 01:02:43,280
Speaker 1: front of him in the medical lineup that got, delayed

1254
01:02:43,280 --> 01:02:46,440
Speaker 1: and then in turn he got delayed in a domino effect,

1255
01:02:46,480 --> 01:02:48,600
Speaker 1: there because that has happened before here and.

1256
01:02:48,640 --> 01:02:51,760
Speaker 3: Each group is doing different. Things so the first group

1257
01:02:51,800 --> 01:02:55,360
Speaker 3: that meets with local media every. Morning those guys aren't

1258
01:02:55,360 --> 01:02:57,640
Speaker 3: delayed because that's their first thing of the. Day they

1259
01:02:57,800 --> 01:03:00,280
Speaker 3: eat breakfast and then they go straight here to me with.

1260
01:03:00,320 --> 01:03:03,000
Speaker 3: Media so those guys aren't off schedule because then they

1261
01:03:03,000 --> 01:03:05,520
Speaker 3: do the medical after they meet with the, media so

1262
01:03:05,560 --> 01:03:08,640
Speaker 3: they always they've always started the day on. Time it's

1263
01:03:08,760 --> 01:03:11,200
Speaker 3: just the groups that come after that first group that

1264
01:03:11,320 --> 01:03:13,600
Speaker 3: usually get hung up in medical stuff and that that

1265
01:03:13,640 --> 01:03:15,280
Speaker 3: delays the rest of the day of media.

1266
01:03:15,320 --> 01:03:18,640
Speaker 1: Availability, yeah which is not good for them, either because

1267
01:03:18,960 --> 01:03:22,480
Speaker 1: now their day is longer and the days are long

1268
01:03:22,520 --> 01:03:24,560
Speaker 1: here for the three or four days that they're, here

1269
01:03:24,640 --> 01:03:26,560
Speaker 1: because once they finished.

1270
01:03:26,200 --> 01:03:30,439
Speaker 2: With, media they might go to lunch and then right into.

1271
01:03:30,480 --> 01:03:34,479
Speaker 1: Interviews some will you, know be all night doing those

1272
01:03:34,800 --> 01:03:37,400
Speaker 1: six like the popular players that everybody wants to talk,

1273
01:03:37,440 --> 01:03:40,240
Speaker 1: to talking to like sixteen seventeen teams.

1274
01:03:40,760 --> 01:03:43,000
Speaker 3: And you're up, early think about.

1275
01:03:42,080 --> 01:03:46,800
Speaker 1: Day seen seventeen job, interviews sometimes eight or nine in

1276
01:03:46,840 --> 01:03:47,960
Speaker 1: a row over the course of two.

1277
01:03:48,080 --> 01:03:51,000
Speaker 2: Nights it's, like, bro what else you gotta ask? Me, Like,

1278
01:03:51,920 --> 01:03:53,960
Speaker 2: oh it's a new, team you don't know, anything, okay

1279
01:03:55,040 --> 01:03:58,480
Speaker 2: but let's crack open THE Obl friday fan mail. Bag

1280
01:03:58,520 --> 01:04:00,720
Speaker 2: but that was some cool stuff that you, yeah. Uncovered

1281
01:04:00,800 --> 01:04:01,800
Speaker 2: we'll have the article out.

1282
01:04:01,840 --> 01:04:04,960
Speaker 3: Tomorrow oh, Awesome, yeah, Sorry. MONDAY i don't know what

1283
01:04:05,040 --> 01:04:07,400
Speaker 3: day it is, Here so they said when are you,

1284
01:04:07,520 --> 01:04:10,040
Speaker 3: leaving AND i Said. FRIDAY i said that today On,

1285
01:04:10,120 --> 01:04:13,240
Speaker 3: friday AND i, said oh my, gosh it Is. Friday it's.

1286
01:04:13,240 --> 01:04:17,080
Speaker 2: Okay the days kind of blend together. Here there's a

1287
01:04:17,080 --> 01:04:18,240
Speaker 2: little bit of a monotony to.

1288
01:04:18,320 --> 01:04:21,640
Speaker 1: It get, up eat, breakfast walk to the convention, center

1289
01:04:21,720 --> 01:04:25,160
Speaker 1: start the work. Day you, know do our, interviews do our,

1290
01:04:25,200 --> 01:04:31,040
Speaker 1: show write our, stories, leave you, know watch player, tape eat,

1291
01:04:31,040 --> 01:04:36,240
Speaker 1: dinner watch more player, Tape maybe have a, drink call

1292
01:04:36,320 --> 01:04:36,440
Speaker 1: it a.

1293
01:04:36,560 --> 01:04:40,760
Speaker 2: Night it over again doing the last. Four, yes so

1294
01:04:40,800 --> 01:04:41,240
Speaker 2: it's totally.

1295
01:04:41,320 --> 01:04:44,640
Speaker 1: Understandable but let's crack open THE Obl friday fan mail

1296
01:04:44,680 --> 01:04:48,920
Speaker 1: bag And ed leads is off with this on a scale.

1297
01:04:48,520 --> 01:04:50,400
Speaker 2: From one to, ten where ten is.

1298
01:04:50,560 --> 01:04:54,840
Speaker 1: Chaos where are The bills as a football team right?

1299
01:04:54,880 --> 01:04:58,280
Speaker 1: NOW i don't think there is any point where they're

1300
01:04:58,480 --> 01:05:02,360
Speaker 1: chaos in the off, season BECAUSE i think you have

1301
01:05:02,440 --> 01:05:07,080
Speaker 1: to remember as a, fan and even to some degree

1302
01:05:07,120 --> 01:05:13,440
Speaker 1: for us who covered the, team our prep in comparison

1303
01:05:13,560 --> 01:05:17,240
Speaker 1: to the football side of the house's prep is like

1304
01:05:18,120 --> 01:05:21,360
Speaker 1: a fraction of what they. Do like we Had brandon

1305
01:05:21,400 --> 01:05:24,240
Speaker 1: being on earlier this week and he, said you, know

1306
01:05:24,280 --> 01:05:27,040
Speaker 1: we finished our personnel.

1307
01:05:26,560 --> 01:05:28,680
Speaker 2: Meetings two or three weeks.

1308
01:05:28,680 --> 01:05:32,840
Speaker 1: Ago, well they already have a whole initial draft board

1309
01:05:33,000 --> 01:05:38,240
Speaker 1: set off of those two weeks of, meetings and then

1310
01:05:38,360 --> 01:05:41,840
Speaker 1: that will be massaged based on the information they get

1311
01:05:41,840 --> 01:05:44,360
Speaker 1: here this, week based on some of the information they

1312
01:05:44,360 --> 01:05:46,440
Speaker 1: get in the thirty, visits based on some of the

1313
01:05:46,480 --> 01:05:50,200
Speaker 1: information they get at the pro. Days so the initial

1314
01:05:50,240 --> 01:05:55,280
Speaker 1: board is already. Set so the thought of chaos really doesn't,

1315
01:05:55,320 --> 01:05:58,280
Speaker 1: exist especially in the off, season because there is so

1316
01:05:58,360 --> 01:06:01,960
Speaker 1: much meeting and planning that goes on that everything's just

1317
01:06:02,040 --> 01:06:04,520
Speaker 1: kind of, here you, know going all.

1318
01:06:04,160 --> 01:06:05,080
Speaker 2: The way through the draft.

1319
01:06:05,120 --> 01:06:07,680
Speaker 1: Process so if you want to give you a one to,

1320
01:06:07,680 --> 01:06:12,200
Speaker 1: ten two, only AND i only say it, too because

1321
01:06:12,320 --> 01:06:14,400
Speaker 1: they have to get cap complied, right and that's gonna

1322
01:06:14,400 --> 01:06:17,240
Speaker 1: take some hoop jumping and some. Exercise it's not like

1323
01:06:17,320 --> 01:06:19,640
Speaker 1: they haven't done it. Before they've done it in previous.

1324
01:06:19,640 --> 01:06:20,640
Speaker 1: Offseasons BUT i.

1325
01:06:20,640 --> 01:06:21,280
Speaker 2: Would put it out of.

1326
01:06:21,320 --> 01:06:24,120
Speaker 3: Two and there is unknown for The bills right now

1327
01:06:24,160 --> 01:06:28,080
Speaker 3: because we haven't had free, agency THE Nfl draft hasn't

1328
01:06:28,080 --> 01:06:30,920
Speaker 3: come our way, yet so there is a big unknown

1329
01:06:30,920 --> 01:06:32,360
Speaker 3: of what the team is going to look. Like but

1330
01:06:32,680 --> 01:06:35,240
Speaker 3: that's the case for every SINGLE nfl. Team so if

1331
01:06:35,240 --> 01:06:39,120
Speaker 3: you're equating chaos with questions about the, roster, well EVERY

1332
01:06:39,240 --> 01:06:42,640
Speaker 3: nfl team is dealing with the same. Thing The bills

1333
01:06:42,720 --> 01:06:46,360
Speaker 3: don't have to fill a quarterback. Spot they have a

1334
01:06:46,360 --> 01:06:49,160
Speaker 3: lot of those important spots, filled SO i would say

1335
01:06:49,160 --> 01:06:52,040
Speaker 3: it makes it even less. Chaotic, yes you're undergoing a

1336
01:06:52,080 --> 01:06:54,800
Speaker 3: scheme change on, defense but there's a lot of other

1337
01:06:54,840 --> 01:06:58,040
Speaker 3: teams in THE nfl undergoing scheme changes with ten two head.

1338
01:06:58,040 --> 01:07:03,439
Speaker 2: Coaches, yeah so, yes one hundred. Percent.

1339
01:07:03,600 --> 01:07:07,640
Speaker 1: Yes ken asks so much talk and chatter about. This

1340
01:07:08,160 --> 01:07:11,040
Speaker 1: if you pay huge money for AN a plus, quarterback

1341
01:07:11,640 --> 01:07:14,040
Speaker 1: you can only pay an assembly a cy plus. Roster

1342
01:07:14,200 --> 01:07:18,000
Speaker 1: is it hard or impossible to be a really great

1343
01:07:18,120 --> 01:07:21,360
Speaker 1: roster with AN a plus? Quarterback how much does luck

1344
01:07:21,400 --> 01:07:24,640
Speaker 1: in the draft affect? THIS i don't think it's. IMPOSSIBLE

1345
01:07:25,880 --> 01:07:30,360
Speaker 1: i think it makes it more. Challenging but your best

1346
01:07:30,400 --> 01:07:31,480
Speaker 1: way around.

1347
01:07:31,120 --> 01:07:32,800
Speaker 2: That is to draft.

1348
01:07:32,920 --> 01:07:36,080
Speaker 1: Well, yeah as long as you are drafting well and

1349
01:07:36,200 --> 01:07:41,720
Speaker 1: acquiring two to three solid starters in every draft class

1350
01:07:42,360 --> 01:07:47,360
Speaker 1: because they're gonna be, missus it's a. Crapshoot you're giving

1351
01:07:47,400 --> 01:07:53,280
Speaker 1: your team the opportunity to not only have depth on the,

1352
01:07:53,400 --> 01:07:58,080
Speaker 1: roster but players who will ascend into starting roles in

1353
01:07:58,120 --> 01:08:01,400
Speaker 1: a year or, two if not, sooner to keep your

1354
01:08:01,520 --> 01:08:07,480
Speaker 1: roster strong and, look EVERY gm around the league has.

1355
01:08:07,600 --> 01:08:11,240
Speaker 1: Misses as we've said many, times you have to apply

1356
01:08:11,360 --> 01:08:16,280
Speaker 1: the draft to a baseball batting. Average if you bat

1357
01:08:16,360 --> 01:08:20,400
Speaker 1: three hundred in a, draft you're doing very. Well if

1358
01:08:20,400 --> 01:08:24,719
Speaker 1: you've bat four, hundred that is outstanding and rarefied. Air

1359
01:08:25,320 --> 01:08:28,719
Speaker 1: SO i think you have to look at a draft

1360
01:08:28,800 --> 01:08:33,000
Speaker 1: class through that, lens knowing how hard it is because

1361
01:08:33,080 --> 01:08:37,479
Speaker 1: you're not only trying to nail down and acquire good quality,

1362
01:08:37,520 --> 01:08:41,320
Speaker 1: Players you're trying to acquire good quality players that fit

1363
01:08:41,520 --> 01:08:45,000
Speaker 1: your team and your. Scheme AND i think that gets

1364
01:08:45,040 --> 01:08:48,320
Speaker 1: lost sometimes because all the mock drafts out there and

1365
01:08:48,360 --> 01:08:51,720
Speaker 1: the draft gurus that are out there that assess the draft, class.

1366
01:08:51,600 --> 01:08:54,559
Speaker 2: They're assessing it as an overall talent.

1367
01:08:54,640 --> 01:08:58,680
Speaker 1: Pool they're not assessing it as teams, specific which is

1368
01:08:58,720 --> 01:09:01,599
Speaker 1: how every one of the thirty two teams are because

1369
01:09:01,640 --> 01:09:04,360
Speaker 1: they can't ask themselves does this guy fit in THE?

1370
01:09:04,439 --> 01:09:06,960
Speaker 1: Nfl they have to ask does he fit The? Bills

1371
01:09:07,479 --> 01:09:10,200
Speaker 1: and there's a there's a difference. There it may be

1372
01:09:10,200 --> 01:09:13,320
Speaker 1: a subtle, difference but it's a difference nonetheless because how

1373
01:09:13,360 --> 01:09:16,479
Speaker 1: many times do we see uber talented players wash out

1374
01:09:16,520 --> 01:09:19,360
Speaker 1: with a team and then go somewhere else and they're much.

1375
01:09:19,400 --> 01:09:23,400
Speaker 3: Better coaching and development is very. Important it's it's PART

1376
01:09:23,479 --> 01:09:26,800
Speaker 3: b of you, know coming into the. League, yes you're

1377
01:09:26,800 --> 01:09:29,240
Speaker 3: bringing your skill, set that's PART. A PART b is

1378
01:09:29,280 --> 01:09:32,559
Speaker 3: how you can develop the fact that you have AN

1379
01:09:32,600 --> 01:09:37,120
Speaker 3: a plus quarterback and A c plus roster can only

1380
01:09:37,120 --> 01:09:39,599
Speaker 3: assemble A c plus. ROSTER i would rather have AN

1381
01:09:39,640 --> 01:09:43,000
Speaker 3: a plus quarterback than A c plus quarterback Like Josh

1382
01:09:43,040 --> 01:09:45,920
Speaker 3: allen has won The bills so many different games on

1383
01:09:45,960 --> 01:09:49,840
Speaker 3: his athleticism alone and his ability to extend, plays to

1384
01:09:49,880 --> 01:09:53,519
Speaker 3: make plays outside of. Structure so give me THAT a

1385
01:09:53,600 --> 01:09:56,920
Speaker 3: plus quarterback every single, day and even if the roster

1386
01:09:57,080 --> 01:09:59,000
Speaker 3: is NOT a, plus they're going to figure out a

1387
01:09:59,040 --> 01:10:01,280
Speaker 3: way to make it. Work And Josh allen AT a

1388
01:10:01,400 --> 01:10:05,479
Speaker 3: plus makes A c plus player A b. Player.

1389
01:10:05,760 --> 01:10:09,760
Speaker 1: YEAH i just think there's a prevailing desire on the

1390
01:10:09,800 --> 01:10:13,280
Speaker 1: part of The bills fan base to get what they,

1391
01:10:13,360 --> 01:10:16,960
Speaker 1: describe for lack of a better, description as more help For. Josh,

1392
01:10:17,040 --> 01:10:18,840
Speaker 1: Yeah AND i think that's kind of the root of

1393
01:10:18,880 --> 01:10:23,000
Speaker 1: Where ken's question comes. From so, no the answer, is

1394
01:10:23,280 --> 01:10:26,040
Speaker 1: you don't have to be A c plus. Roster if

1395
01:10:26,080 --> 01:10:30,519
Speaker 1: you're drafting well and you can maintain the depth and

1396
01:10:30,640 --> 01:10:32,840
Speaker 1: quality of your, roster you can do it at an

1397
01:10:32,840 --> 01:10:36,679
Speaker 1: affordable price with rookie contracts because you've drafted. Well eventually

1398
01:10:36,720 --> 01:10:39,160
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to pay those people and you have

1399
01:10:39,200 --> 01:10:40,880
Speaker 1: to make tough decisions like The bills are going to

1400
01:10:40,920 --> 01:10:43,759
Speaker 1: be faced with. Now but, ultimately if you are drafting,

1401
01:10:43,840 --> 01:10:48,200
Speaker 1: well you can acquire cheap labor that keeps you competitive and,

1402
01:10:48,280 --> 01:10:50,880
Speaker 1: talented and you can and you could be better than

1403
01:10:50,880 --> 01:10:54,120
Speaker 1: A c plus. Roster that way easier said than, Done

1404
01:10:54,160 --> 01:10:56,080
Speaker 1: BUT i would not say it's. Impossible it's just a

1405
01:10:56,080 --> 01:10:58,519
Speaker 1: little bit more. Challenging we have to take a break.

1406
01:10:58,560 --> 01:11:02,000
Speaker 1: Here when we come. Back more of your questions out

1407
01:11:02,040 --> 01:11:04,439
Speaker 1: of the mail. Bag we'll get to those when we

1408
01:11:04,479 --> 01:11:24,599
Speaker 1: return here On One Bill's live presented By Kalaida. Health all,

1409
01:11:24,680 --> 01:11:26,800
Speaker 1: right welcome back To One Bill's live time now for

1410
01:11:26,880 --> 01:11:30,719
Speaker 1: this Week scoop of The week presented By Blue, bunny

1411
01:11:30,800 --> 01:11:35,280
Speaker 1: the official frozen treat of The Buffalo, bills and it's

1412
01:11:35,640 --> 01:11:39,439
Speaker 1: the new addition To buffalo's coaching. STAFF i don't think

1413
01:11:39,479 --> 01:11:41,920
Speaker 1: it's been made official, yet but it was reported last

1414
01:11:42,000 --> 01:11:48,120
Speaker 1: night That trace, McSorley Former Penn state, quarterback former backup

1415
01:11:48,160 --> 01:11:53,240
Speaker 1: quarterback in the, league is leaving his current coaching post

1416
01:11:53,280 --> 01:11:57,760
Speaker 1: in college to join The bills as an offensive. Assistant

1417
01:11:58,120 --> 01:12:02,080
Speaker 1: so another addition To Joe brady's coaching. Staff AND i

1418
01:12:02,080 --> 01:12:04,760
Speaker 1: guess you can never have too many quarterbacks helping you

1419
01:12:04,800 --> 01:12:05,800
Speaker 1: on the offensive side of the.

1420
01:12:05,840 --> 01:12:09,160
Speaker 3: Ball why not if it can Help buffalo and, anyway

1421
01:12:09,439 --> 01:12:12,040
Speaker 3: sign me. Up and there are some staffs who have

1422
01:12:12,640 --> 01:12:14,960
Speaker 3: quite a bit more coaches than The bills in terms

1423
01:12:14,960 --> 01:12:21,280
Speaker 3: of assistants like, analysts senior advisor and whatever you want

1424
01:12:21,320 --> 01:12:24,360
Speaker 3: to call. It so if he HAS nfl, experience played

1425
01:12:24,360 --> 01:12:26,760
Speaker 3: for a ton of different, teams six round pick in twenty,

1426
01:12:26,880 --> 01:12:31,400
Speaker 3: nineteen will HAVE i think something to say and will

1427
01:12:31,400 --> 01:12:32,639
Speaker 3: be helpful in the quarterbacks.

1428
01:12:32,720 --> 01:12:33,040
Speaker 4: Room.

1429
01:12:33,120 --> 01:12:37,400
Speaker 1: Yeah so The bills Have Pete carmichael AT, oc they

1430
01:12:37,400 --> 01:12:42,480
Speaker 1: Have Bo hart agree at quarterbacks coach IF Dj, mangus

1431
01:12:42,520 --> 01:12:43,400
Speaker 1: who's an offensive.

1432
01:12:43,400 --> 01:12:46,720
Speaker 2: Assistant so this guy will just be added to that.

1433
01:12:46,880 --> 01:12:53,759
Speaker 1: Crew So trace McSorley joining The bills offensive staff Under Joe.

1434
01:12:54,000 --> 01:12:56,200
Speaker 2: Brady so that's kind of our scoop of the.

1435
01:12:56,200 --> 01:12:58,960
Speaker 1: Week we do have to get back to the questions

1436
01:12:58,960 --> 01:13:03,439
Speaker 1: though in the Ob friday fan, mailbag and this one

1437
01:13:03,520 --> 01:13:07,160
Speaker 1: comes From jacob who, Asks i'm surprised nobody's saying offensive

1438
01:13:07,200 --> 01:13:09,679
Speaker 1: line for The bills in round. One if the best

1439
01:13:09,720 --> 01:13:12,320
Speaker 1: player available is a center or a, guard why.

1440
01:13:12,120 --> 01:13:13,240
Speaker 2: Not a, Lie it's.

1441
01:13:13,360 --> 01:13:17,400
Speaker 1: POSSIBILITY i think it's more likely guard than center BECAUSE

1442
01:13:17,479 --> 01:13:23,160
Speaker 1: i think the guard class is considered. Better and, look

1443
01:13:23,200 --> 01:13:26,439
Speaker 1: The bills drafted a guard in the second round three

1444
01:13:26,520 --> 01:13:27,800
Speaker 1: years ago In Osiris.

1445
01:13:27,840 --> 01:13:31,400
Speaker 2: TORRENCE i think it's more likely.

1446
01:13:31,479 --> 01:13:34,560
Speaker 1: There and not only, that based on a lot of

1447
01:13:34,600 --> 01:13:37,240
Speaker 1: the mock drafts we've, Seen, maddie there are a lot

1448
01:13:37,240 --> 01:13:41,200
Speaker 1: of guards and tackles going in the top. Twenty and

1449
01:13:41,240 --> 01:13:43,799
Speaker 1: that's not a terrible thing because we've been talking all day, about,

1450
01:13:44,160 --> 01:13:46,720
Speaker 1: hey is the talent at the positions The bills might

1451
01:13:46,760 --> 01:13:48,639
Speaker 1: be interested in going to get pushed down to them

1452
01:13:48,640 --> 01:13:52,000
Speaker 1: at twenty. Six the tackles and the guards could help

1453
01:13:52,000 --> 01:13:54,839
Speaker 1: in that vein when the other positions that we've discussed,

1454
01:13:54,920 --> 01:13:58,040
Speaker 1: quarterback running back have really not or.

1455
01:13:58,120 --> 01:14:01,839
Speaker 3: Won't when you think About David edwards And connor McGovern

1456
01:14:01,960 --> 01:14:06,080
Speaker 3: re signing one of those, players is there one that's

1457
01:14:06,560 --> 01:14:08,680
Speaker 3: above the other and why.

1458
01:14:09,800 --> 01:14:13,479
Speaker 1: Well edwards is gonna command more, money so he's going

1459
01:14:13,560 --> 01:14:16,240
Speaker 1: to be more difficult to re. Sign it's gonna make

1460
01:14:16,280 --> 01:14:19,040
Speaker 1: somewhere between seventeen and twenty. Million but we Had brandon

1461
01:14:19,080 --> 01:14:24,280
Speaker 1: here on the show On, tuesday And i'm not saying

1462
01:14:25,000 --> 01:14:27,800
Speaker 1: he was waving goodbye to those, guys BUT i think,

1463
01:14:27,880 --> 01:14:31,600
Speaker 1: he as well as everybody in their personnel, department recognizes

1464
01:14:32,400 --> 01:14:35,040
Speaker 1: where the market is headed at the guard and center.

1465
01:14:35,080 --> 01:14:39,920
Speaker 1: Positions they are two positions that have become extremely coveted league,

1466
01:14:39,920 --> 01:14:42,800
Speaker 1: wide and you don't have to look very far to

1467
01:14:42,800 --> 01:14:45,640
Speaker 1: see a lot of crumming offensive lines around this, league

1468
01:14:45,800 --> 01:14:49,080
Speaker 1: and The bills have had one OF i would, argue

1469
01:14:49,120 --> 01:14:52,559
Speaker 1: a top three offensive line in the league left to

1470
01:14:52,640 --> 01:14:58,120
Speaker 1: right across the, board and their performance has earned them

1471
01:14:58,160 --> 01:15:01,439
Speaker 1: the right to make significant more, money AND i think they.

1472
01:15:01,479 --> 01:15:05,439
Speaker 1: Will and the Way brandon framed it for, US i

1473
01:15:05,479 --> 01:15:08,200
Speaker 1: think if you if you pinned him down and asked,

1474
01:15:08,280 --> 01:15:12,840
Speaker 1: him what are the odds you get either of them?

1475
01:15:12,880 --> 01:15:15,160
Speaker 2: Back Because i've seen the.

1476
01:15:15,160 --> 01:15:17,760
Speaker 1: Projections for McGovern he's gonna make between twelve and fifteen a,

1477
01:15:17,840 --> 01:15:22,400
Speaker 1: year and For edwards at seventeen to TWENTY i would

1478
01:15:22,439 --> 01:15:28,000
Speaker 1: guess it's thirty, seventy they're back one of them because

1479
01:15:28,000 --> 01:15:29,800
Speaker 1: it's definitely not going to be. Both The bills just

1480
01:15:29,800 --> 01:15:32,360
Speaker 1: don't have the cap space to make that. Work, now

1481
01:15:33,760 --> 01:15:36,040
Speaker 1: we should also think about. THIS i don't think they're

1482
01:15:36,040 --> 01:15:37,960
Speaker 1: going to spend a first round pick on a. Guard

1483
01:15:38,120 --> 01:15:40,120
Speaker 1: they might not even spend a second round pick on

1484
01:15:40,160 --> 01:15:43,240
Speaker 1: a guard or a center unless you, know the cupboards

1485
01:15:43,240 --> 01:15:45,679
Speaker 1: bear at some other need positions and they're just taking

1486
01:15:45,760 --> 01:15:48,160
Speaker 1: best guy. Available and the REASON i say, that And

1487
01:15:48,520 --> 01:15:51,200
Speaker 1: steve AND i cover this to a great degree on

1488
01:15:51,280 --> 01:15:53,280
Speaker 1: The Bills by The numbers podcast this week because we

1489
01:15:53,320 --> 01:15:56,240
Speaker 1: talked about this very thing about the old line changing

1490
01:15:56,280 --> 01:16:00,120
Speaker 1: for the first time in probably three years outside to

1491
01:16:00,160 --> 01:16:02,320
Speaker 1: mc governent going from left guard to center after H morse.

1492
01:16:02,400 --> 01:16:07,800
Speaker 1: LEFT i think the the crux of the thing here

1493
01:16:07,840 --> 01:16:11,400
Speaker 1: that people are not thinking about Is Alec anderson has

1494
01:16:11,400 --> 01:16:14,360
Speaker 1: been groomed for the last three, Seasons Cedric Van Praying

1495
01:16:14,439 --> 01:16:17,200
Speaker 1: granger has been total for the last two, seasons AND

1496
01:16:17,240 --> 01:16:19,519
Speaker 1: i think they are being given they are going to

1497
01:16:19,520 --> 01:16:22,880
Speaker 1: be given every opportunity to compete for those starting, roles

1498
01:16:23,120 --> 01:16:26,040
Speaker 1: and they should. Be that's why you, drafted you, Know

1499
01:16:26,360 --> 01:16:28,720
Speaker 1: cedric Van Praying granger in the fifth, round and that's

1500
01:16:28,720 --> 01:16:31,920
Speaker 1: why you Signed Alec anderson as a as an undrafted free.

1501
01:16:31,920 --> 01:16:35,280
Speaker 1: Agent it's also why you Have Ryan vandermark. Here it's

1502
01:16:35,320 --> 01:16:38,040
Speaker 1: also why you've held on To Travis, clayton the, individual

1503
01:16:38,280 --> 01:16:42,559
Speaker 1: the international pathway player who looks like a tackle at you,

1504
01:16:42,560 --> 01:16:44,519
Speaker 1: know six foot six and three hundred and seven.

1505
01:16:44,560 --> 01:16:47,240
Speaker 2: Pounds but that's a guy who's young in.

1506
01:16:47,240 --> 01:16:49,200
Speaker 1: Football what do you what happens if you push him

1507
01:16:49,200 --> 01:16:52,479
Speaker 1: into guard and maybe line him up there with help

1508
01:16:52,520 --> 01:16:55,160
Speaker 1: on either side of, him maybe he's SUDDENLY nfl. Ready

1509
01:16:55,760 --> 01:17:00,120
Speaker 1: SO i would not dismiss the players that have that

1510
01:17:00,160 --> 01:17:03,240
Speaker 1: are on the. Roster number, one have been in the

1511
01:17:03,280 --> 01:17:07,040
Speaker 1: pipeline and gotten. Reps number two and number three are

1512
01:17:07,080 --> 01:17:10,679
Speaker 1: going to be operating with the same kind of coaching

1513
01:17:11,120 --> 01:17:14,599
Speaker 1: and coaching techniques because both offensive line Coach Pat meyer

1514
01:17:14,920 --> 01:17:18,560
Speaker 1: and assistant offensive line Coach Austin gunn are both disciples

1515
01:17:18,560 --> 01:17:22,120
Speaker 1: Of Aaron. Kromer so in my, mind even if you

1516
01:17:22,240 --> 01:17:25,360
Speaker 1: draft a guard in round, three all that stuff's going

1517
01:17:25,400 --> 01:17:28,599
Speaker 1: to be new for. Them whereas Van Pian granger has

1518
01:17:28,640 --> 01:17:31,240
Speaker 1: been in the pipeline for two YEARS Atlec anderson for,

1519
01:17:31,280 --> 01:17:36,000
Speaker 1: THREE i think they are confident that those guys are

1520
01:17:36,000 --> 01:17:39,040
Speaker 1: going to compete and compete hard and maybe even successfully

1521
01:17:39,400 --> 01:17:41,040
Speaker 1: in landing starting jobs at those two.

1522
01:17:41,040 --> 01:17:44,880
Speaker 3: Spots, yeah if they can't Retain edwards or McGovern both those,

1523
01:17:44,880 --> 01:17:49,400
Speaker 3: SPOTS i would expect big competitions there with several players

1524
01:17:49,439 --> 01:17:50,200
Speaker 3: involved in those.

1525
01:17:50,200 --> 01:17:52,720
Speaker 1: Competitions, So, jacob that was a supremely long way of

1526
01:17:52,920 --> 01:17:54,760
Speaker 1: SAYING i do not expect them to spend a first

1527
01:17:54,800 --> 01:17:56,080
Speaker 1: round draft pick on a guard or a.

1528
01:17:56,080 --> 01:18:01,400
Speaker 2: Center Pat asks is bast going to be read for this.

1529
01:18:01,720 --> 01:18:03,640
Speaker 1: SEASON i know they won't waste a, pick BUT i

1530
01:18:03,720 --> 01:18:07,040
Speaker 1: was wondering what is out there with kickers coming out

1531
01:18:07,040 --> 01:18:09,880
Speaker 1: of school this. Year there are some kicker. Prospects i'm

1532
01:18:09,920 --> 01:18:12,479
Speaker 1: not going to pretend to have looked at them just.

1533
01:18:12,560 --> 01:18:15,200
Speaker 1: YET i know one of them was kicking here early

1534
01:18:15,240 --> 01:18:17,160
Speaker 1: in the week for his workout and he was hitting sixty.

1535
01:18:17,240 --> 01:18:24,439
Speaker 1: Yarders that guy's going to draw, eyeballs. OBVIOUSLY i Believe Tyler,

1536
01:18:24,479 --> 01:18:27,000
Speaker 1: bass who had core muscle surgery because of the injury

1537
01:18:27,040 --> 01:18:30,040
Speaker 1: he sustained that forced him to miss the entire season

1538
01:18:30,640 --> 01:18:35,080
Speaker 1: should be healthy by the, spring late spring at the.

1539
01:18:35,080 --> 01:18:39,439
Speaker 1: Worst he's been In buffalo for most of this winter

1540
01:18:40,320 --> 01:18:47,040
Speaker 1: rehabbing post, surgery so hopefully there is no deterioration of

1541
01:18:47,080 --> 01:18:50,760
Speaker 1: his leg strength and his hip flexer strength and all

1542
01:18:50,800 --> 01:18:55,120
Speaker 1: of that. Stuff he's still a young, player so AND

1543
01:18:55,680 --> 01:18:59,479
Speaker 1: i think people quickly forget about. This When Tyler bass is,

1544
01:18:59,560 --> 01:19:04,439
Speaker 1: right he is a weapon for this football. Team bottom,

1545
01:19:04,479 --> 01:19:07,400
Speaker 1: line he is a, weapon and they haven't seen him

1546
01:19:07,439 --> 01:19:09,360
Speaker 1: kick in a, while AND i guess people forget about.

1547
01:19:09,400 --> 01:19:12,679
Speaker 1: That SO i just want to remind everybody this guy.

1548
01:19:12,840 --> 01:19:15,160
Speaker 1: Was this guy won a game for The bills with

1549
01:19:15,320 --> 01:19:18,280
Speaker 1: a team record sixty one yard field goal against The

1550
01:19:18,320 --> 01:19:20,679
Speaker 1: dolphins two years ago with five seconds.

1551
01:19:20,680 --> 01:19:23,760
Speaker 2: Remaining so he is a weapon for this team when he's.

1552
01:19:23,840 --> 01:19:26,400
Speaker 3: Right When i've seen him in the complex too, lately

1553
01:19:26,479 --> 01:19:28,760
Speaker 3: it seems like he's in a good place mentally and

1554
01:19:28,960 --> 01:19:31,680
Speaker 3: is happy to be going through the rehab process and

1555
01:19:31,840 --> 01:19:34,519
Speaker 3: is excited about what's to come once he gets back

1556
01:19:34,560 --> 01:19:37,799
Speaker 3: out on the. Field Brandon bean was asked about several

1557
01:19:37,840 --> 01:19:40,800
Speaker 3: injured players and what their statuses are this. Week when

1558
01:19:40,840 --> 01:19:43,280
Speaker 3: he spoke to, Media bean, SAID i don't have an

1559
01:19:43,320 --> 01:19:46,439
Speaker 3: individual timeline for each, guy but they're in the building

1560
01:19:46,479 --> 01:19:47,160
Speaker 3: and they're working.

1561
01:19:47,439 --> 01:19:49,200
Speaker 2: Now all that being, said.

1562
01:19:50,560 --> 01:19:53,519
Speaker 1: It would not shock me if they brought in some

1563
01:19:53,560 --> 01:19:58,120
Speaker 1: competition For, tyler which they've done in the. Past so

1564
01:19:58,240 --> 01:20:02,320
Speaker 1: that would not surprise me because there is the unknown

1565
01:20:03,560 --> 01:20:06,200
Speaker 1: When tyler bass is one hundred percent, again what does

1566
01:20:06,240 --> 01:20:09,800
Speaker 1: that look? Like and because there's no way to, KNOW i,

1567
01:20:09,800 --> 01:20:11,840
Speaker 1: mean you might have confidence that he'll be. Fine the

1568
01:20:11,880 --> 01:20:14,160
Speaker 1: doctors might tell you his rehab is going, Great he's

1569
01:20:14,160 --> 01:20:16,760
Speaker 1: going to be the same kicker he ever. Was the

1570
01:20:16,800 --> 01:20:21,560
Speaker 1: proof is in the, pudding and gms and personnel executives

1571
01:20:22,200 --> 01:20:26,000
Speaker 1: learn very quickly not to count on anything until they

1572
01:20:26,040 --> 01:20:30,000
Speaker 1: see it on a field, happening and they try to

1573
01:20:30,800 --> 01:20:33,000
Speaker 1: hedge their bets for lack of a better. Term so

1574
01:20:33,320 --> 01:20:37,160
Speaker 1: it wouldn't surprise me if Maybe tyler's rehab's taking a

1575
01:20:37,160 --> 01:20:40,360
Speaker 1: little longer than anticipated and they can't see what he's capable,

1576
01:20:40,400 --> 01:20:44,360
Speaker 1: of that they bring in another kicker as competition in

1577
01:20:44,439 --> 01:20:47,160
Speaker 1: the event that things don't turn out the way they

1578
01:20:47,240 --> 01:20:49,879
Speaker 1: anticipate they will For. Tyler BUT i have every confidence

1579
01:20:49,920 --> 01:20:52,200
Speaker 1: he'll be back to the kicker that he's always. Been

1580
01:20:53,240 --> 01:20:58,200
Speaker 1: lauren asks how should The bills approach the backup? Quarterbacks

1581
01:20:58,240 --> 01:21:00,559
Speaker 1: sign a veteran for a few million a year or

1582
01:21:00,640 --> 01:21:03,519
Speaker 1: draft someone in rounds two through, Four even though you're

1583
01:21:03,640 --> 01:21:06,000
Speaker 1: vesting a lot in the draft pick for four, years

1584
01:21:06,240 --> 01:21:08,680
Speaker 1: you will have a much cheaper backup can use that

1585
01:21:08,760 --> 01:21:11,280
Speaker 1: money elsewhere draft capital.

1586
01:21:10,880 --> 01:21:13,439
Speaker 2: Devoted to the quarterback to save towards the.

1587
01:21:13,479 --> 01:21:18,559
Speaker 1: CAP i understand the premise, Completely. LAUREN i Do you're

1588
01:21:18,560 --> 01:21:22,960
Speaker 1: trying to find cap dollars for The bills to use somewhere,

1589
01:21:23,000 --> 01:21:26,479
Speaker 1: else knowing the backup quarterback When Josh allen has been

1590
01:21:26,479 --> 01:21:28,200
Speaker 1: the starter very rarely.

1591
01:21:28,280 --> 01:21:29,000
Speaker 2: PLAYS i, Mean.

1592
01:21:28,960 --> 01:21:31,320
Speaker 1: Josh is playing on a broken foot In jacksonville in

1593
01:21:31,320 --> 01:21:34,599
Speaker 1: the playoff, game when there are a lot of other

1594
01:21:34,680 --> 01:21:36,200
Speaker 1: quarterbacks that probably would have tapped.

1595
01:21:36,240 --> 01:21:39,240
Speaker 2: Out i'm. Trying i'm gonna go back and look very

1596
01:21:39,360 --> 01:21:40,440
Speaker 2: quickly here.

1597
01:21:40,800 --> 01:21:43,360
Speaker 3: To be heard. From while you're, Looking i'll talk About Mitch.

1598
01:21:43,360 --> 01:21:46,439
Speaker 3: Trubisky when we heard From Mitch trubisky during locker clean,

1599
01:21:46,439 --> 01:21:48,880
Speaker 3: out he, Said i'm definitely gonna tell my agent That

1600
01:21:49,000 --> 01:21:50,920
Speaker 3: buffalo is at the top of my. LIST i really

1601
01:21:51,120 --> 01:21:53,320
Speaker 3: like this. PLACE i have a great relationship With Josh.

1602
01:21:53,400 --> 01:21:55,679
Speaker 3: Allen i've been here for a couple of years, Now

1603
01:21:55,880 --> 01:21:59,000
Speaker 3: SO i would assume That trubisky is gonna if the

1604
01:21:59,040 --> 01:22:01,920
Speaker 3: money makes, sense he's gonna want to be back In.

1605
01:22:02,040 --> 01:22:06,320
Speaker 1: Buffalo, Yeah so he signed in twenty twenty four offseason

1606
01:22:06,320 --> 01:22:09,000
Speaker 1: when he first came back to The bills From pittsburgh one,

1607
01:22:09,080 --> 01:22:10,559
Speaker 1: year five and a quarter.

1608
01:22:10,640 --> 01:22:13,360
Speaker 2: Million and THEN i want to see what he signed

1609
01:22:13,520 --> 01:22:15,040
Speaker 2: re signed for last.

1610
01:22:15,120 --> 01:22:17,280
Speaker 1: Year i've got that. Here just give me one. Second

1611
01:22:18,080 --> 01:22:22,160
Speaker 1: so last year when he, resigned where is?

1612
01:22:22,200 --> 01:22:26,000
Speaker 2: THAT i can't find.

1613
01:22:26,040 --> 01:22:28,000
Speaker 3: IT i have somebody at the top of my list

1614
01:22:28,000 --> 01:22:30,400
Speaker 3: who is not available this. Season BUT i just think

1615
01:22:30,439 --> 01:22:33,120
Speaker 3: it would be as a, backup as a backup who

1616
01:22:33,120 --> 01:22:36,799
Speaker 3: would be amazing In. Buffalo just all based on personality and. Vibes,

1617
01:22:37,120 --> 01:22:40,519
Speaker 3: okay Because Josh allen is a funny. Guy he's a good.

1618
01:22:40,560 --> 01:22:46,160
Speaker 3: Hang Jameis, Winston oh give Me Jameis winston as The

1619
01:22:46,200 --> 01:22:48,800
Speaker 3: bills backup. QUARTERBACK i want to. LAUGH i want to have.

1620
01:22:48,920 --> 01:22:51,280
Speaker 3: Fun And jamis And. Josh you, know they could have

1621
01:22:51,360 --> 01:22:53,519
Speaker 3: their OWN tv, Show james And. Josh it just just

1622
01:22:53,560 --> 01:22:55,920
Speaker 3: makes sense to. ME i think it'd be so much,

1623
01:22:56,080 --> 01:22:56,559
Speaker 3: fun so.

1624
01:22:56,680 --> 01:23:00,960
Speaker 1: Hilarious our social media department would be celebrating that development

1625
01:23:01,000 --> 01:23:01,200
Speaker 1: if it.

1626
01:23:01,280 --> 01:23:04,840
Speaker 2: Happened i'm just gonna punch. Him i'm just gonna Punch trubisky.

1627
01:23:04,439 --> 01:23:06,479
Speaker 1: In just so we can get a framework of the

1628
01:23:06,600 --> 01:23:10,960
Speaker 1: kind of money we could be looking at so, oh

1629
01:23:10,960 --> 01:23:12,639
Speaker 1: it was a two year deal for five.

1630
01:23:12,439 --> 01:23:13,120
Speaker 2: Point twenty five.

1631
01:23:13,160 --> 01:23:15,679
Speaker 1: Million that's WHY i didn't have anything for twenty twenty

1632
01:23:15,680 --> 01:23:18,040
Speaker 1: five because he was still under, contract so he only

1633
01:23:18,080 --> 01:23:20,280
Speaker 1: had a base salary of two point four to six.

1634
01:23:20,360 --> 01:23:24,280
Speaker 1: Million this past season had some small bonuses in. THERE

1635
01:23:24,320 --> 01:23:26,960
Speaker 1: i think you could Get mitch back for two and three,

1636
01:23:27,040 --> 01:23:29,640
Speaker 1: quarters maybe even three a.

1637
01:23:29,720 --> 01:23:33,280
Speaker 2: Year and knowing And i'm.

1638
01:23:33,080 --> 01:23:36,720
Speaker 1: Just gonna say this About mitch when he came back

1639
01:23:36,760 --> 01:23:41,240
Speaker 1: this summer in training, camp there was a noticeable difference

1640
01:23:42,200 --> 01:23:49,160
Speaker 1: in his past. Velocity AND i noticed it right. Away

1641
01:23:49,280 --> 01:23:51,040
Speaker 1: AND i even said to him one day when he

1642
01:23:51,080 --> 01:23:55,040
Speaker 1: walked out onto the practice field first week of training, camp, said,

1643
01:23:55,040 --> 01:23:59,519
Speaker 1: man the zip on your passes looks noticeably different than

1644
01:23:59,520 --> 01:24:01,960
Speaker 1: it did the year. Before he's, like, oh, thanks, MAN

1645
01:24:02,400 --> 01:24:04,559
Speaker 1: i go are you what are you? Working what did

1646
01:24:04,600 --> 01:24:07,840
Speaker 1: you work on mechanically to kind of reinvent?

1647
01:24:07,960 --> 01:24:10,200
Speaker 2: That and he said it was all hip.

1648
01:24:10,320 --> 01:24:15,120
Speaker 1: Drive and then In Hard knocks they had an episode

1649
01:24:15,200 --> 01:24:19,800
Speaker 1: where they Had josh And mitch And shane with that

1650
01:24:20,040 --> 01:24:24,360
Speaker 1: quarterback mechanics coach That josh brings in every now and

1651
01:24:24,400 --> 01:24:26,639
Speaker 1: again just to kind of refresh his, mechanics make sure

1652
01:24:26,680 --> 01:24:30,000
Speaker 1: they're on. Point And mitch was working with him, also

1653
01:24:30,840 --> 01:24:33,120
Speaker 1: and there was a clip in That Hard knocks episode

1654
01:24:33,160 --> 01:24:36,840
Speaker 1: where he specifically, Said, mitch your velocity is up five

1655
01:24:36,840 --> 01:24:39,000
Speaker 1: miles per. Hour great job with the hip drive and

1656
01:24:39,040 --> 01:24:41,880
Speaker 1: all that. Stuff you, know nicely. Done he's like. THANKS

1657
01:24:42,000 --> 01:24:43,680
Speaker 1: i was, like, there it is.

1658
01:24:45,200 --> 01:24:49,280
Speaker 2: CONFIRMATION i was, like my eyes are not deceiving.

1659
01:24:49,320 --> 01:24:52,679
Speaker 1: Me SO i WAS i was in for a player

1660
01:24:53,479 --> 01:24:55,320
Speaker 1: that's been in the league as long as he has

1661
01:24:55,960 --> 01:25:00,960
Speaker 1: to still be striving to find ways to. Improve those

1662
01:25:00,960 --> 01:25:03,400
Speaker 1: are the people that last longer in this league because

1663
01:25:03,439 --> 01:25:08,719
Speaker 1: they're always trying to find places in the margins where

1664
01:25:08,720 --> 01:25:11,200
Speaker 1: they can elevate their. Game and this is a guy

1665
01:25:11,240 --> 01:25:15,639
Speaker 1: that doesn't play every week exactly because he's playing behind Iron, man.

1666
01:25:15,720 --> 01:25:17,320
Speaker 3: And you gotta Be if you're not gonna play every,

1667
01:25:17,320 --> 01:25:19,400
Speaker 3: week you have to be really important To Josh, allen

1668
01:25:19,600 --> 01:25:22,880
Speaker 3: AND i Think Mitch trubisky is that To Josh. Allen

1669
01:25:22,920 --> 01:25:25,080
Speaker 3: at this point In allen's. CAREER i Think alan has

1670
01:25:25,080 --> 01:25:26,760
Speaker 3: a lot of trust in, him AND i think the

1671
01:25:26,840 --> 01:25:29,280
Speaker 3: quarterbacks room is very important To.

1672
01:25:29,400 --> 01:25:32,760
Speaker 1: Alan, yeah gotta step, aside take a break. Here we'll

1673
01:25:32,800 --> 01:25:35,479
Speaker 1: get some final questions in from the Obl friday fan

1674
01:25:35,560 --> 01:25:38,559
Speaker 1: mail bag here as our live coverage from THE Nfl combine,

1675
01:25:39,000 --> 01:25:54,760
Speaker 1: Continues One Bill's, live presented by Fall out Of. Help All,

1676
01:25:54,840 --> 01:25:57,960
Speaker 1: Right welcome back To One Bill's, live our final segment

1677
01:25:57,960 --> 01:26:01,679
Speaker 1: of live coverage here at THE Nfl. Combine in, indeed

1678
01:26:01,720 --> 01:26:03,519
Speaker 1: been a busy week for, us been a busy week

1679
01:26:03,560 --> 01:26:04,759
Speaker 1: for the prospects as.

1680
01:26:04,600 --> 01:26:07,360
Speaker 2: Well and we got a time On Red.

1681
01:26:07,479 --> 01:26:10,160
Speaker 1: Murdoch we forgot to look at that since he tested

1682
01:26:10,240 --> 01:26:13,920
Speaker 1: yesterday ran a four to seven, seven which is not

1683
01:26:14,120 --> 01:26:17,080
Speaker 1: bad for. HIM i think he had to run sub

1684
01:26:17,160 --> 01:26:21,200
Speaker 1: four eight okay to get. Consideration is four seven seven

1685
01:26:21,320 --> 01:26:22,799
Speaker 1: enough to move up his draft?

1686
01:26:22,800 --> 01:26:23,920
Speaker 2: STOCK i don't.

1687
01:26:23,960 --> 01:26:26,120
Speaker 1: Know i'd have to look probably at the other testing

1688
01:26:26,560 --> 01:26:28,320
Speaker 1: to see how he did in some of the explosive

1689
01:26:28,400 --> 01:26:28,960
Speaker 1: drills like.

1690
01:26:28,920 --> 01:26:30,720
Speaker 2: The vertical leap and the broad, jump.

1691
01:26:32,160 --> 01:26:34,639
Speaker 1: Because first step is important when you're you, know reading

1692
01:26:34,640 --> 01:26:37,400
Speaker 1: and play and, diagnosing get to the, spot make the.

1693
01:26:37,439 --> 01:26:41,200
Speaker 2: Play BUT i think he's got a. CHANCE i think

1694
01:26:41,240 --> 01:26:41,600
Speaker 2: he's got a.

1695
01:26:41,640 --> 01:26:44,320
Speaker 1: Chance four seven seven is good enough for him based

1696
01:26:44,320 --> 01:26:46,200
Speaker 1: on what the projections were on.

1697
01:26:46,320 --> 01:26:47,680
Speaker 2: HIM i think people thought he was gonna be.

1698
01:26:47,640 --> 01:26:51,559
Speaker 1: Anywhere from four to seven three to like four eight,

1699
01:26:51,680 --> 01:26:53,840
Speaker 1: Five so he's kind of right in the middle there

1700
01:26:53,880 --> 01:26:55,479
Speaker 1: even a little bit more towards the lower.

1701
01:26:55,560 --> 01:26:58,439
Speaker 2: End so hopefully that means let's go red good things for.

1702
01:26:58,560 --> 01:27:02,200
Speaker 1: Him we got a couple of questions left in THE

1703
01:27:02,240 --> 01:27:03,840
Speaker 1: Obl friday fan mail.

1704
01:27:03,880 --> 01:27:06,040
Speaker 2: Bag pete, asks considering.

1705
01:27:05,560 --> 01:27:08,040
Speaker 1: The need for a nose, tackle do you Think Ed

1706
01:27:08,080 --> 01:27:10,479
Speaker 1: oliver could put on twenty pounds or sto and still

1707
01:27:10,520 --> 01:27:11,599
Speaker 1: play effectively at six.

1708
01:27:11,760 --> 01:27:14,800
Speaker 2: One he's the. Perfect height he is the. RIGHT height.

1709
01:27:16,080 --> 01:27:17,640
Speaker 1: I don't think he can put any more weight on, that,

1710
01:27:17,720 --> 01:27:23,679
Speaker 1: frame THOUGH and i say that because if he does

1711
01:27:23,760 --> 01:27:26,479
Speaker 1: that at, HIS size i think it's going to lead to.

1712
01:27:26,520 --> 01:27:30,519
Speaker 1: MORE injuries i think it would be counterproductive for him

1713
01:27:30,560 --> 01:27:33,080
Speaker 1: to play there at a significantly.

1714
01:27:33,160 --> 01:27:35,559
Speaker 2: Heavier weight but, you're right his height is ideal.

1715
01:27:35,600 --> 01:27:37,720
Speaker 1: For that you need a tree stump, In there but

1716
01:27:37,760 --> 01:27:39,720
Speaker 1: you need a guy that goes three, twenty six three.

1717
01:27:39,760 --> 01:27:41,560
Speaker 2: Twenty seven and that's just. Not ed he's to.

1718
01:27:41,760 --> 01:27:44,799
Speaker 3: Eighty seven it'll be interesting to see how they envision

1719
01:27:44,920 --> 01:27:46,320
Speaker 3: him in this New look.

1720
01:27:46,400 --> 01:27:50,400
Speaker 1: Bill's offense david asks how many times Can the bills

1721
01:27:50,439 --> 01:27:54,200
Speaker 1: renegotiate contracts as many times as, they want as long

1722
01:27:54,200 --> 01:27:56,840
Speaker 1: as the other party is willing to. Do, so now

1723
01:27:57,160 --> 01:28:00,560
Speaker 1: there are times where the bills go to a player.

1724
01:28:00,320 --> 01:28:02,240
Speaker 2: And, say hey can we restructure?

1725
01:28:02,240 --> 01:28:05,960
Speaker 1: Your contract and usually it's not an issue because the

1726
01:28:05,960 --> 01:28:10,200
Speaker 1: player never. Loses money they just move the, money around

1727
01:28:10,280 --> 01:28:12,200
Speaker 1: whether they put it in a bonus so they can

1728
01:28:12,240 --> 01:28:15,679
Speaker 1: amortize it over the life of, the contract or whether

1729
01:28:15,720 --> 01:28:18,519
Speaker 1: they put it in a, signing bonus and then the

1730
01:28:18,560 --> 01:28:20,719
Speaker 1: guy signs it and it goes right in. His pocket

1731
01:28:20,920 --> 01:28:23,599
Speaker 1: he's getting the money today. To restructure there's a lot of.

1732
01:28:23,600 --> 01:28:28,080
Speaker 1: Incentives there pay cut is a. Different story some players

1733
01:28:29,479 --> 01:28:31,479
Speaker 1: might be willing to. Do that there have been some

1734
01:28:31,520 --> 01:28:33,120
Speaker 1: in the past that know they're at the end of

1735
01:28:33,160 --> 01:28:35,920
Speaker 1: their career and are willing to do that just to

1736
01:28:35,960 --> 01:28:37,040
Speaker 1: keep a job and collect.

1737
01:28:37,040 --> 01:28:40,839
Speaker 2: A paycheck but. It varies but there's, no limit absolutely.

1738
01:28:40,880 --> 01:28:43,240
Speaker 1: No limit and the last Question, from tom how would

1739
01:28:43,240 --> 01:28:45,400
Speaker 1: you handle the First round bill's pick draft an, edge

1740
01:28:45,439 --> 01:28:48,519
Speaker 1: rusher to try to try to Trade, for crosby to

1741
01:28:48,560 --> 01:28:50,120
Speaker 1: trade the second round Pick For Brian.

1742
01:28:50,160 --> 01:28:51,320
Speaker 2: THOMAS junior.

1743
01:28:53,080 --> 01:28:55,680
Speaker 1: I think first, ROUND pick i would take an edge

1744
01:28:55,760 --> 01:29:01,080
Speaker 1: rusher if the Value Fits otherwise. I'm PIVOTING would i

1745
01:29:01,120 --> 01:29:03,599
Speaker 1: trade the second round Pick For Brian? Thomas, junior yes

1746
01:29:03,880 --> 01:29:05,720
Speaker 1: because you're pretty much drafting at the end of the

1747
01:29:05,720 --> 01:29:09,360
Speaker 1: second round at picked, Twenty six josh's salary impact in

1748
01:29:09,360 --> 01:29:11,120
Speaker 1: the cap it could. Be worse we could be paying

1749
01:29:11,160 --> 01:29:13,519
Speaker 1: tour you're right. About that what about the first? Round

1750
01:29:13,560 --> 01:29:14,840
Speaker 1: pick what Do you which way are?

1751
01:29:14,840 --> 01:29:15,920
Speaker 2: You leaning if the value?

1752
01:29:15,960 --> 01:29:18,479
Speaker 3: IS right I Like ed, RUSHER too i could you know?

1753
01:29:18,560 --> 01:29:19,800
Speaker 3: WIDE receiver i could be down.

1754
01:29:19,800 --> 01:29:19,880
Speaker 2: For.

1755
01:29:20,040 --> 01:29:22,000
Speaker 3: Too defense defense makes sense.

1756
01:29:22,000 --> 01:29:22,080
Speaker 4: To.

1757
01:29:22,120 --> 01:29:25,639
Speaker 1: Me yeah so there's a lot that's going to happen

1758
01:29:25,640 --> 01:29:27,120
Speaker 1: between now. And then we have to get through a

1759
01:29:27,120 --> 01:29:29,200
Speaker 1: whole free agency period And the bills are going to

1760
01:29:29,240 --> 01:29:31,559
Speaker 1: add to the roster there at, various positions and that

1761
01:29:31,560 --> 01:29:34,200
Speaker 1: could change the complexion of the first. Round Pick, but

1762
01:29:34,240 --> 01:29:37,400
Speaker 1: matti thanks for helping us these last. Two days our combine.

1763
01:29:36,960 --> 01:29:39,120
Speaker 2: Coverage, is done but the combine Runs. Through monday we'll

1764
01:29:39,120 --> 01:29:41,519
Speaker 2: have more times to bring to You, on Monday when

1765
01:29:41,600 --> 01:29:43,280
Speaker 2: STEVE and i are back. In studio we'll see you

1766
01:29:43,320 --> 01:29:43,400
Speaker 2: that