WEBVTT - Draft Show: Worth Taking Risks At Pick 28?

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<v Speaker 1>This is the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft show. Cowboys

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<v Speaker 1>on your war Room for incenter news and draft analysis

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<v Speaker 1>from deep within the confines of Cowboys Headquarters at the

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<v Speaker 1>Star in Fresco, Dallas Cowboys Select Elliott and now your

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<v Speaker 1>hosts Dane Brugler, David Hellman and Brian brought us. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>it's now down to thirty five days until the two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand seventeen NFL Draft will take place in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.

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<v Speaker 1>Brian brought us Dane Brugler, CBS Sports and Dallas Cowboys

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<v Speaker 1>dot Com. David Hellman from Dallas Cowboys dot Com. Kate Garrison,

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<v Speaker 1>Executive Producer. I want to welcome everybody to joy. How

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<v Speaker 1>about that thirty five days? Boys, This one seems like

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<v Speaker 1>it's sneaking up even faster than usual. To me, I'd agree. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a random assessment on my part and we've been

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<v Speaker 1>through a lot, but a lot, a lot of way

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<v Speaker 1>to go. Yeah, a few pro days, uh today if

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<v Speaker 1>you important for days? Yeah, that's what I was gonna

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<v Speaker 1>get into. I was gonna get into on this show.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry before you do that. I was just I

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<v Speaker 1>think I got so used to last year, really like

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<v Speaker 1>we already we already it was a fourth overall pick.

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<v Speaker 1>We already had it all narrowed down last year. Because

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<v Speaker 1>it was the fourth pick, you really only had to

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<v Speaker 1>worry about eight guys. Less than that, like five guys. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and now it's I got nothing. I got no clue.

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<v Speaker 1>I got no clue. I got nothing. It's thirty five days.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll figure it out, We'll get we're yeah, we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have wake up one day. We'll be talking about But

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, we've had some meetings. Just to let

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<v Speaker 1>folks know real quick, we've had a bunch of meetings

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<v Speaker 1>and it's gonna be wall to wall coverage. Just get

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<v Speaker 1>ready like we've like we've done in the past. Jeff Kavanaugh,

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<v Speaker 1>Kevin Turner will join us as well. We're gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>doing some simulcasting with one oh five three the Fan,

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<v Speaker 1>our radio partner, official radio partner, the Dallas Cowboys, So

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<v Speaker 1>we'll be doing that. We'll all be there'll be all

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<v Speaker 1>kinds of ways that you can grab us for the draft,

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<v Speaker 1>but we're going to cover all the picks. Dane will

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<v Speaker 1>tell you something about mystery irrelevant. I guarantee you we'll

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<v Speaker 1>have a scouting reporter, A mystery irrelevant. That's what I

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<v Speaker 1>would look forward to every year. The show today is

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be We're gonna talk about Pro Days a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>Had another injury in Pro Days. You know, I'm getting

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<v Speaker 1>a little tired of the injured, the top players getting injured. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>these Pro Days never seemed like that ever happened when

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<v Speaker 1>I was in scouting, right, never seemed like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you went and worked guys out. You know, we had

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<v Speaker 1>guys work out the combine. But you know what we

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<v Speaker 1>have now that we didn't have back then, the individual

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<v Speaker 1>workout teams going back in and working guys out. That's

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<v Speaker 1>turning into something different. Now It's hard to get a

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<v Speaker 1>gauge of who really likes who unless you figure out listen.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's the great thing about Twitter though. You know

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<v Speaker 1>these players will talk. Yeah, I've gotta gotta be the

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<v Speaker 1>cowboys gonna meet with you know. That's that's something good.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's unfortunate. We did have another injury in the

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<v Speaker 1>Pro Days and uh Fabin Moreau, you sell a corner, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>your pet cat, my pet cat. Yeah, a guy who

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<v Speaker 1>I had in my first round walk last week. It's

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<v Speaker 1>especially the bench press, like yeah, come on, and he

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<v Speaker 1>didn't bench at the combine because it's the peck. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>just a little a little strain his left shoulder, a

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<v Speaker 1>left peck. But he does it at the cat at

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<v Speaker 1>his pro day and ends up furthering that injury. Hopefully

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<v Speaker 1>we don't know the severity of it yet, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>is it something that hopefully strain. Hopefully he can avoid surgery.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a terror. It's not something that is too extensive.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, hopefully we find find out more details

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<v Speaker 1>here in the next few weeks so it doesn't hurt

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<v Speaker 1>his draft status and team to understand what's going on

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<v Speaker 1>with the injury. Need to figure out though, David that

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<v Speaker 1>with this injury he was you know, it was something

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<v Speaker 1>that they identified at the combine. He went through the workout,

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<v Speaker 1>but I wonder if he'll be at the recheck. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>that's something And what's what's unfortunate though, if you're a

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<v Speaker 1>Cowboy fan, is the fact that now cornerbacks are getting hurt,

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<v Speaker 1>and cornerbacks that are in your range of two of

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<v Speaker 1>your two of the guys that you thought they were

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<v Speaker 1>both on the short list of guys that you thought

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<v Speaker 1>were a real possibility, and they well, maybe not Sidney Jones,

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<v Speaker 1>but I would say Moreau is probably it'll just be

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<v Speaker 1>a cowboy in the third round. Now, sure, well let's

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<v Speaker 1>talk about that a little bit though, too. Can Dallas

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<v Speaker 1>afford to take injured defensive players in the third round.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you can. I think you can. You can

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<v Speaker 1>do that. Um, it's not ideal by any means, but

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<v Speaker 1>players staying, oh yes, I have you've seen the guys

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<v Speaker 1>walking out of this building. I'm not talking the first round,

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<v Speaker 1>not talking the second round. But if you're really relying

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<v Speaker 1>on a late third round pick to come in and

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<v Speaker 1>boost your team, you got bigger problem. Anthony Brown, Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that way, you're not relying on that, right, Yeah, exactly,

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<v Speaker 1>That's okay. So what I'm saying, you look guys to

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<v Speaker 1>get play using that reasoning. Let's just wait to the

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<v Speaker 1>sixth round and we'll go. I'm just saying, how about

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<v Speaker 1>guys that can play? Right? And I think that Sidney

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<v Speaker 1>Jones is a guy that you can stash and you

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<v Speaker 1>a year from now you'll be really happy you pulled

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<v Speaker 1>that trigger. I think he's got a point that you're

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<v Speaker 1>in trouble if you need your ninety two overall pick

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<v Speaker 1>to do something if you need it. I've passed it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm passed to stashing of players now for this team,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it. I want to know after after going

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<v Speaker 1>through Jalen Smith and there's still uncertainty there. I want

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<v Speaker 1>to know more about Moreau's injury, Like Sidney Jones is

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<v Speaker 1>another story. I know he said he thinks he'll play

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<v Speaker 1>for the season. I'm not buying that, no, But I

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<v Speaker 1>think Moreau, I mean he could potentially. That's not a

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<v Speaker 1>how about just any derail his sea? How about anybody?

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<v Speaker 1>How about anybody that's injured? How about but each one's

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<v Speaker 1>so individual. Ross. I already like McKinley, McKinley, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want you already hate McKinny. I don't want it. Just

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<v Speaker 1>get used to it. Now. McKinley's gonna be a das

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<v Speaker 1>cowboy in the late first round stop. He's coming in

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<v Speaker 1>here for a Top thirty visit. And I tell you, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I've talked to him like what three times now. He's

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<v Speaker 1>one of the best. Well, that was a little news

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<v Speaker 1>nugget right there by can go ahead, and that's why

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<v Speaker 1>he's on this show. He's one of the best salesman

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<v Speaker 1>in this class, he'll sell himself to this this staff.

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<v Speaker 1>In terms of Jerry fall in love with him, you think,

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<v Speaker 1>oh yeah, I think so right, kind of guy fall

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<v Speaker 1>in love that if he's there but coming off the injury,

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<v Speaker 1>that you have to wonder how much that will factor

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<v Speaker 1>into their decision. Me as a reporter, and I said

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<v Speaker 1>this at the combine in terms of, like me selfishly

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<v Speaker 1>just wanting the most interesting, quote worthy player, bring Tack

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<v Speaker 1>McKinley soundbites, and you shouldn't base your first round pick

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<v Speaker 1>based on the first three months of his career and

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<v Speaker 1>how available he's going to be. Having said that, I

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<v Speaker 1>just really want the first round pick to be able

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<v Speaker 1>to play right away. Whoa, whoa, whoa Wait a minute.

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<v Speaker 1>I just made that argument, and you guys are telling

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<v Speaker 1>me the stash players. No, I didn't say that third

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<v Speaker 1>rounds different than the first You know, I want guys

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<v Speaker 1>who can play. Now. Am I arguing that point? You're

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<v Speaker 1>arguing for it right now? Yeah? No, I'm saying, and

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of got the pushback from both of you.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I don't worry about it, sane. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you realize that, yeah, third round is different than the

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<v Speaker 1>first round? First two if you can get two guys

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<v Speaker 1>in the first two rounds that are gonna help your

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<v Speaker 1>team right away, great, But in the third round is

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<v Speaker 1>a little different. And with Sidney Jones injury, it's we're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about different injuries than Jalen Smith. Jalen Smith, we

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<v Speaker 1>weren't sure if he's gonna play again, let alone, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>just be ready for the next season. So I mean, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I know, absolutely, And that's why I wasn't a fan

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<v Speaker 1>of the Jalen Smith pick then and I'm still not.

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<v Speaker 1>I still don't like it. But with uh, with Tack,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a four to six month injury the shoulder of

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<v Speaker 1>the laboram surgery. Uh, you know he had it, you

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<v Speaker 1>just say, you know, beginning of March. So it puts

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<v Speaker 1>him in line to beer back right around when the

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<v Speaker 1>season starts. And you know how much training camp and

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<v Speaker 1>Zeke really have, you know, I mean, he's a running back,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot easier for running back. That's a different transition.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a better comparison on the same team. MALIEK. Collins

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<v Speaker 1>broke his foot in early June, missed all of training camp.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I specifically remember completely writing him off. I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, he's a rookie. He's a third round pick.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no way he'll get acclimated in time. Second on

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<v Speaker 1>the team in Sex, so and so by October one,

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<v Speaker 1>you might be feeling pretty good if McKinley's on this team. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't hate it. I would not hate it. He's

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<v Speaker 1>a good player, he's a great quote. It does not

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<v Speaker 1>it's not an injury that should limit him long term.

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<v Speaker 1>But I would be much more intrigued by a player

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<v Speaker 1>who I knew was ready to go change gears here

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<v Speaker 1>Connecticut boy, he continues to go up to charts. Obie

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<v Speaker 1>Obie Melofa wu yesterday, four nine on the twenty shuttle,

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<v Speaker 1>ten six nine on the sixty shuttle. That's ridiculous, seven

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<v Speaker 1>o five on the three cone drill. That's ever. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he's a good football player, thanks coach. Is he? That's

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<v Speaker 1>why I want to talk about when? When did the number?

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<v Speaker 1>They did? Some good things? Can't you're killing me now?

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<v Speaker 1>Too many drops? Can't calm down, calm downs, draft show.

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<v Speaker 1>This isn't talking cowboys too many, too many. The thing

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<v Speaker 1>about him is when does the tape When does the

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<v Speaker 1>tape not show the player? I mean, I mean, is

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<v Speaker 1>the tape. I guess what I'm trying to say is

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<v Speaker 1>the tape there is not everything that I just said,

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<v Speaker 1>not a four four forty, not all those things. Team's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna get fooled by this guy? Is he gonna go

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<v Speaker 1>a lot earlier? Because there's of size and the history

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<v Speaker 1>does not smile. We've talked about that a bunch on

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<v Speaker 1>this show, that history does not smile on the tall safety. No,

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<v Speaker 1>there are examples of working out, but for the most part,

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<v Speaker 1>you're right. If the draft was hell December thirty, first,

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<v Speaker 1>Obie probably goes mid to late third round. Yeah. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's exactly where the tape shows, right. So now that

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<v Speaker 1>he's going to be, or now after the combine in

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<v Speaker 1>the pro day, he's got a bunch of private workouts

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<v Speaker 1>set up. He has a good chance of going in

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<v Speaker 1>the first round because of the athlete that he is

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<v Speaker 1>and the way he tested. And I get it, But

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<v Speaker 1>his flaws on tape, I'm not sure are as correctable

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<v Speaker 1>as that would make it. It It would lead you to believe,

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<v Speaker 1>because his issues to me are as just his mental trigger,

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<v Speaker 1>his mental process. He takes him a tick a half

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<v Speaker 1>tick to really process everything that's happening. And then react

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<v Speaker 1>and by that time he's either out of position to

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<v Speaker 1>make a play where he misses it. So I like

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<v Speaker 1>the player. I think he's a third round player. He

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<v Speaker 1>tested really well, but I don't think the flaws that

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<v Speaker 1>he showed on tape are easily correctable, even though he's

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<v Speaker 1>an e lead athlete. Let me ask you this, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's hard to answer, but every year there are guys

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<v Speaker 1>that get overvalued and then we in the media, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>not so much. You're you're more plugged in than most,

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<v Speaker 1>but we're kind of surprised to see them go where

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<v Speaker 1>they should have gone all along, probably, And is that

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<v Speaker 1>the case with a guy like this, I mean, we

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<v Speaker 1>think we're thinking of everybody thinks he's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>a first round player, that he actually goes in the third.

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<v Speaker 1>We're talking about it. I don't know if he goes

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<v Speaker 1>in the third. We're talking about Obi as a twenty

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<v Speaker 1>five to thirty two type guy, and maybe he's a

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<v Speaker 1>second round pick at least, which maybe that's still overvalued,

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<v Speaker 1>but not as crazy overvalued as he seems right now.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's possible. Yeah, you know, I think he's

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<v Speaker 1>with what he did. The combine of the pro day.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he cemented himself somewhere in the top fifty,

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<v Speaker 1>and so now it's just a you know, where does

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<v Speaker 1>he belong in that top fifty? Can he sneak into

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<v Speaker 1>the first round? Absolutely as possible, but he fell to

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<v Speaker 1>the early second It shouldn't be too surprising, especially because

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<v Speaker 1>again his tape is third round worthy. And you agree

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<v Speaker 1>with that, right, bro? Absolutely? I see that's the thing.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of fans out there asking me about him

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<v Speaker 1>at twenty eight. Yeah, I wouldn't pick him at twenty

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<v Speaker 1>eight just because I trust that tape. You have to

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<v Speaker 1>the name of it. That's the name of your other podcast, correct, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a heck of a name for a podcast. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't. I'm not. I'm not fooled by them. I don't. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't like it. See that's where that's where I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a little concerned. Is there any other players in this

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<v Speaker 1>draft that the tape is not as good as the numbers? Definitely?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I want to I'm curious. I'm curious if

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<v Speaker 1>I'm curious if some guys that tested really really well. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like Ross, you know, ran really well at

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<v Speaker 1>least the first He's got first round talent. We expected that, right, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I think Christian McCaffrey tested really well. But

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<v Speaker 1>again I think we expected that. I think you see

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<v Speaker 1>that on tape. He's an outstanding athlete. Who else Humphrey?

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<v Speaker 1>Are people talking about Humphrey the corner from Alabama as

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<v Speaker 1>a first round type talent? Now maybe we're down where

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<v Speaker 1>Dallas is picking and that twenty six to thirty two range.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad you bring him up because I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>when the draft process started he was maybe not mentioned

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<v Speaker 1>in the same breath as Lattimore, but he was a

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<v Speaker 1>guy that it really didn't seem like Dallas had a

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<v Speaker 1>shot at him, And now it seems like he's being

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<v Speaker 1>pushed down the board. So I've always see Lattimore. No,

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<v Speaker 1>no, No No, I'm Humphrey. I've always felt like Humphrey was

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<v Speaker 1>a second round player on tape. I remember seeing him

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<v Speaker 1>up in the twelve, fifteen, sixteen seventeen range. Yeah, I've

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<v Speaker 1>always had him in as a possible top twenty, top

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<v Speaker 1>twenty five guy. I didn't. I never thought he'd be

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<v Speaker 1>a consideration for the Cowboys because I don't think he'd

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<v Speaker 1>be there, because I think he will be now. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I when you're built that way, when you have that

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<v Speaker 1>length at the corner position, you have that speed. I

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<v Speaker 1>think his issues on tape are correctable. He's only a

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<v Speaker 1>Richard sophomore. I think he's going to get better. Where

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<v Speaker 1>that's a difference between him and Melifono where I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>confident Melifono was going to fix his issues, but with Humphrey,

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<v Speaker 1>I do, and he'll get better with his issues. I

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<v Speaker 1>think he's the top twenty to twenty five corner in

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<v Speaker 1>this draft, and I think that's where he will end up,

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<v Speaker 1>going him or White from Lsu Humphry. For with my corners,

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<v Speaker 1>it's Lattimore and Humphrey. Humphrey is my number two. What's

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<v Speaker 1>the situation with Tabor? Now there's a guy a poor workout,

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<v Speaker 1>but the tape is better than the workout. Agree, and

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<v Speaker 1>there's now he's the other way right, same thing with

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<v Speaker 1>a Cooper Cup. Cooper Cup another worst six who he

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<v Speaker 1>might be the best route runner in this draft with

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<v Speaker 1>the way he can create his own separation bridge routes.

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<v Speaker 1>But with the four six out, if you're four sixth athlete,

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<v Speaker 1>you're coming from the FCS level some teams, that's obviously

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<v Speaker 1>a turn off with Tabor the four six. You just

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<v Speaker 1>never want to see that for or you know, gosh,

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<v Speaker 1>I hope they get him faster at Florida. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>he wants I like him. I'm timing him at thirty

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<v Speaker 1>eight yards. I'm serious. I'm telling my scout, hey, are

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<v Speaker 1>you giving to fudge the numbers? I don't know. I

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<v Speaker 1>want the player. Why do you want the players? Like

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<v Speaker 1>the player? That's the great thing about Like Mike Williams.

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<v Speaker 1>If you liked him, he ran a four or five three.

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<v Speaker 1>If you don't like him all four or five. I know,

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<v Speaker 1>I know you know. But me I make excuses for

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<v Speaker 1>the guys we like, Oh, we always do. Taber is tough,

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<v Speaker 1>he is, he makes plays. He does make plays. But

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<v Speaker 1>in the NFL it's just different. You know, you have

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<v Speaker 1>to have that speed. And you're killing him now. I'm no,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not. I'm not killing him. I'm concerned, which I

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<v Speaker 1>think is fair when you go out and you and

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<v Speaker 1>it's not. It wasn't just a forty. I mean all

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<v Speaker 1>of his drills were terrible. You could say that about Cook.

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<v Speaker 1>They running back from Florida State. Yes, that I am

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<v Speaker 1>more willing to trust the tape there than with Tabor

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<v Speaker 1>because of what you see Tabor do, because he's not

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen Cook make people miss. I'm not worried about

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<v Speaker 1>his explosion as births. With Tabor, I see a guy

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<v Speaker 1>who is very instinctive and he he has a very

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<v Speaker 1>good feel for the position. So he understands how to

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<v Speaker 1>put himself in position and make plays on the ball.

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<v Speaker 1>But if he makes a false step up, he's not

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<v Speaker 1>going to be a guy that routinely recovers in the

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<v Speaker 1>NFL corners. You're going to make false steps against NFL

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<v Speaker 1>wide receivers just at that level of competition, and so

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<v Speaker 1>with Tabor it just worries me a little bit more.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not I'm not killing him to the you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm dropping him off my board, but I do think

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<v Speaker 1>there is a level of concern there with Tabor, and

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<v Speaker 1>also factor in he did not interview well. I've heard

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<v Speaker 1>from several teams that told me he did not interview well. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>we've talked about his brash, cocky attitude. He'd be either

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<v Speaker 1>at sixty no, Yeah, I think that would be a

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<v Speaker 1>little surprising fell that far, but I do think it's

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<v Speaker 1>possible he's somewhere in that No. There's concern, but with

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<v Speaker 1>especially with Sidney Jones going down. Oh yeah, Morrow, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna need some corners to play here, right, So

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<v Speaker 1>I think here I'm talking about in the league, Tabor.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he's squarely in the top fifty somewhere. But

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think it should surprise anyone if it falls

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<v Speaker 1>out of the first round. More concerned about his speed

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<v Speaker 1>and quickness or ability or Mike Williams at Clemson. I

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<v Speaker 1>always worry more about a DB's yeah and speed, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you don't have slow, not quick receivers to

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<v Speaker 1>make a living. That old miss guy that we love

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<v Speaker 1>so much that I bring it up all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh no, we were wrong about him right now, initially

0:17:12.280 --> 0:17:15.240
<v Speaker 1>we're wrong about him. Dez Bryant is not a burner.

0:17:15.600 --> 0:17:18.920
<v Speaker 1>He's not like the quickest dude, Jarvis Landry. I say

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<v Speaker 1>it all the time. He ran a four seven at

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<v Speaker 1>the combine, Like, sure, you can get by with less

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<v Speaker 1>than elite speed, right receiver, dB, I don't know, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>i'd agree, and it with Sherman run will I don't

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<v Speaker 1>have his number off the top were five five, four

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<v Speaker 1>five eight out of Stanford. I mean it's that wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't really fast? Well, it's I with link. It's hard

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<v Speaker 1>to run that fast when you're six three, two hundred pounds.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean like that that top like top end corner speed.

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<v Speaker 1>And it depends on how you're used with Sherman, the

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<v Speaker 1>way he's used in that scheme. It doesn't have to

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<v Speaker 1>be a burner. And if Mike Williams, if he's used

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<v Speaker 1>the way you know, to his strengths, then he won't

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<v Speaker 1>have to be a fourth three athlete to be productive.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't have to close the book completely on Lakwan Treadwell. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's all mental. That would be the albatross you wear.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, that would be your Joey Harry if

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<v Speaker 1>he doesn't get it together. It's it's so we're all guilty.

0:18:09.400 --> 0:18:13.040
<v Speaker 1>Other pro days rolling out. We've we talked about Yukon, UCLA,

0:18:13.119 --> 0:18:16.760
<v Speaker 1>North Carolina Trubisky and then they get to make a

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<v Speaker 1>big deal. No GM's no coaches show up. Okay, watch

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<v Speaker 1>how many people go through there and have private workouts

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<v Speaker 1>for him? Right, they'll figure that out. The quarterback Pro

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<v Speaker 1>Day has become the most overrated thing in the draft. Frosts. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just teams just don't care as much because I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>if it's an opportunity to see him throw, great, you

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<v Speaker 1>know you can never any opportunity to see him is great.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's a scripted workout. It's on their own home field,

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<v Speaker 1>to their receive own receivers. If if you told me

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<v Speaker 1>these quarterbacks are gonna be blindfolded, okay, then I'll go

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<v Speaker 1>watch because then that might be a little more interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>But with you know, all the perfect conditions, you're sleeping

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<v Speaker 1>in your own bed the night before. It's just you

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<v Speaker 1>should be perfect, and most of these guys are, so

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<v Speaker 1>you just gave kids or no, no hope. At Notre

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<v Speaker 1>Dame today, Kaiser, Kaiser, I love correcting you on would

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<v Speaker 1>you say? I said, Kinser, and I'm saying you sing

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<v Speaker 1>of the dirt track guy that's coming out here April

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<v Speaker 1>eighth at the Texas Motor Speed. Can I interject Kaiser quickly?

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<v Speaker 1>Notre Dame, Yeah, go ahead, breaking news, not really breaking news,

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<v Speaker 1>but pertin into our interests. Ian Rappaport is saying Fabian

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<v Speaker 1>Moreau underwent a successful surgery on his torn peck, and

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<v Speaker 1>they expect him they expect him at full strength by

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<v Speaker 1>training camp do with that. What you wrn peck, corn peck,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm losing a corners. But that's what I'm saying, though,

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<v Speaker 1>is a torn peck to I believe that he could

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<v Speaker 1>be ready, maybe not for day one of training camp,

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<v Speaker 1>but by the time the season's ready to roll around.

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<v Speaker 1>Whereas with Sidney Jones, I think he's crazy if he

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<v Speaker 1>thinks he's going to be ready for the start of

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<v Speaker 1>the season. I can at least talk myself into Fabian

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<v Speaker 1>Moreau being ready. Torn peck, How did that hit you?

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<v Speaker 1>That's tough. I thought it was a strange I mean

0:19:53.240 --> 0:19:55.920
<v Speaker 1>he listen to listen to Jim Moore talk us strange.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I would still take him. It's an upper

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<v Speaker 1>body injury, it's not his legs. But you wouldn't take

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<v Speaker 1>tack No, because Tax's not gonna be ready for the

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<v Speaker 1>start of the season. The sounds like similar. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>very UCLA heavy show today. Yeah, that's good point, very

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<v Speaker 1>good players though. Yeah, No, I think they're both in

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<v Speaker 1>play at twenty eight. Kick McDermott in there too, Go ahead,

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<v Speaker 1>get him as a priority free agent. Oh, like third round.

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<v Speaker 1>I had a third round grade on him, Dane, Did

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<v Speaker 1>you really put him as a priority for the sixth.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I don't think he's he's you're brutal, he's

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<v Speaker 1>got light feet, but he's gonna get eating up in

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<v Speaker 1>the NFL. We'll see anyway real quick. Okay, other pro

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<v Speaker 1>days going off Stanford. You talked about Ohio States Pro

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<v Speaker 1>Day as well, and uh Missoo's having their Massoo's having

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<v Speaker 1>their prodols. I wrote that down. Yeah, if you're a prospect,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're Christian McCaffrey, are you going like seventy five

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<v Speaker 1>percent speed making sure you don't strain it. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>working out. Yeah, I'm showing up. I'm showing up my

0:20:57.280 --> 0:20:59.600
<v Speaker 1>real pretty Stanford sweats. And if you want to meet

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<v Speaker 1>and talk to me, have at it. He'll bring his harmonica, Yeah,

0:21:02.480 --> 0:21:06.440
<v Speaker 1>if piano man, whatever you want to do, yea my iPad.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll just hand you my tape. Yeah. Well, and this

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<v Speaker 1>is a player I remember skip the Bowl game for

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<v Speaker 1>exactly Yeah, you know when at this point time watching

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<v Speaker 1>him fall like this, No, not with thirty five days left,

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<v Speaker 1>those decisions look no justified as the no weeks and

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<v Speaker 1>McCaffrey killed the combine. There's nothing that he can show

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<v Speaker 1>you at his pro day that would make you like

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<v Speaker 1>him anymore? Right, So he is I zeroed a gain.

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<v Speaker 1>If I'm McCaffrey, I'm not working out. I agree. Okay, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>our fans out there, love the opportunity to answer your questions.

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<v Speaker 1>It is called thank you very much. Can't careson David Hellman,

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<v Speaker 1>it is your show, all right. I love good segues.

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<v Speaker 1>So Ryan had a good question for our previous topic.

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<v Speaker 1>He's saying at twenty eight, he gave us a list

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<v Speaker 1>of injured players. He said, Fabian Moreau, Tack McKinley, he said,

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<v Speaker 1>John Ross, But I wonder if he meant Sidney Jones.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm just gonna say both. But either way, let's

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<v Speaker 1>say those four players in terms of value and how

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<v Speaker 1>you feel about their injury problems. What do he liked most? Like?

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<v Speaker 1>John Ross isn't is healthy now, but he has injury concerns,

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<v Speaker 1>lingers injury history already and he just had surgery on

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<v Speaker 1>a ship. Yeah, so I mean each one of them

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<v Speaker 1>you could pull holes medical holes. So I mean, do

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<v Speaker 1>you just go with the best player on your board

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<v Speaker 1>at that point? Yeah, I'm trying to think of who who?

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<v Speaker 1>Who is not? I can't. I need players. I keep

0:24:54.720 --> 0:24:58.879
<v Speaker 1>arguing that. I keep wanting guys. I need guys to play.

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<v Speaker 1>To me, Ross the best player of that group. Ross

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<v Speaker 1>would be the best player of that group. But with

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<v Speaker 1>bringing back, I can't draft the receiver twenty eight with

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<v Speaker 1>Terrence Williams back, Yeah, I don't. I'm not sure that

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<v Speaker 1>you can because you have your top three receivers and

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<v Speaker 1>so you know, where's this guy gonna play? Um and

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<v Speaker 1>he's got injury issues, it's fair, but he is an

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<v Speaker 1>explosive player, yeah player, you know, four wide receiver sets.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to figure it out. You know, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not married. I'm not. I mean, I know it

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<v Speaker 1>says four years on Terence Williams, But if Ross gives

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<v Speaker 1>me an explosive player, I'm I'm putting him ahead of

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<v Speaker 1>Terrence Williams. So Terrence Williams is gonna sit on the bench,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe your third or so. I mean, you could sub

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<v Speaker 1>sub aim in nine million to your number four receiver.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm just I'm just trying to figure out

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<v Speaker 1>a way. I am not married. I'm not married to

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<v Speaker 1>the guy I don't know, and you shouldn't be. And

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<v Speaker 1>if I could get a more explosive player on the field,

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<v Speaker 1>I could stretch the field that helped Dez Bryant. Terence.

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen what Terence would do. I love Terrence, I

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<v Speaker 1>have I have you know Terence. I love the player,

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<v Speaker 1>I love the fact he blocks, I love all that

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<v Speaker 1>about him. But I'm not sit there and saying I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna sacrifice one of the most explosive players in the draft.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I get what you're saying, but the offense

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<v Speaker 1>is it's fine, it's so, it's ready to go today.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't. I can't ignore a position of need and

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<v Speaker 1>a player of similar value just because I mean, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I know, I'm just trying to I was trying to

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<v Speaker 1>answer his question about what would I do was sit

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<v Speaker 1>with what would I do with Ross's I play him,

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<v Speaker 1>It's not. I just don't think that's great roster management.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay with then eliminate him. You're not gonna have Sidney Jones.

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<v Speaker 1>I would draft him a row because it's the most

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<v Speaker 1>pressing need on the roster and it's an injury that

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<v Speaker 1>he should be able to bounce back from relatively quickly.

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<v Speaker 1>More worried if you're the Cowboys about your corner play

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<v Speaker 1>or defensive ent. Probably corner just because of of who's playing. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean just the bodies and not in the depth chart.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not trying to tell you that the defensive ends

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<v Speaker 1>on this roster are all pros, but you could play

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<v Speaker 1>a game with them, right and I don't. Right now,

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<v Speaker 1>I worry about getting through games with the cornerbacks on

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<v Speaker 1>hand because there's really only three, right, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>with those names, though, I think i'd go Tach McKinley.

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<v Speaker 1>I think i'd go with the player who is top

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<v Speaker 1>on my board, and whether or not he's ready for

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<v Speaker 1>the season opener, I think I feel pretty good that

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<v Speaker 1>he's on my team starting in October, so I had

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<v Speaker 1>the right ends of the guys I think are right ends.

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<v Speaker 1>I know you hate when we talk about left and

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<v Speaker 1>right ends. I do, but it's okay. Garrett was my

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<v Speaker 1>first right end. McKinley was my second right end. There

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<v Speaker 1>you go. Cornerbacks Lattimore, Jones, Moreau, those were my three though.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's what I'm saying. McKinley Moreau on your overall board,

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<v Speaker 1>would have to go with McKinley over Moreau, Okay, I would.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't hate that, like, I mean, I know I

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<v Speaker 1>kill them, but they're both first round players. Yeah, so

0:28:09.960 --> 0:28:12.480
<v Speaker 1>I mean you know that that's that's the thing. I

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<v Speaker 1>but I understand what you're saying about the corner thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder if how they will stack their board. They

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<v Speaker 1>need both. But again, remember how deep this corner class is. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, when you feel good about pick sixty getting

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<v Speaker 1>a corner there, even in the third round, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that there's some comfort level there knowing that

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<v Speaker 1>you you can get a corner later on. Are you

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<v Speaker 1>comfortable with taking Morow at twenty eight if you're the Cowboys,

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<v Speaker 1>as long as the this recent news about his torn

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<v Speaker 1>peck and the surgery, as long as you know the

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<v Speaker 1>doctors signed off on it, and say listen, at some

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<v Speaker 1>point during training camp, he will rejoin the team and

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<v Speaker 1>be one hundred percent, then yes, I'm comfortable with that,

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<v Speaker 1>agreed McKinley. Yeah, I'm they're totally okay. I didn't ask

0:28:55.800 --> 0:28:57.680
<v Speaker 1>you about McKinley because I think you're okay with McKinley.

0:28:57.720 --> 0:29:01.120
<v Speaker 1>I am, it's it's and listen, he's not a perfect

0:29:01.160 --> 0:29:03.800
<v Speaker 1>player on the field either. He we're talking twenty eight, right, No,

0:29:03.880 --> 0:29:06.120
<v Speaker 1>I know, I'm saying like, if we're picking at four,

0:29:06.160 --> 0:29:08.480
<v Speaker 1>we're not talking about any of these cats. Yeah, right,

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<v Speaker 1>Tach McKinley had had the four or five nine forty

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<v Speaker 1>yard dash, great ten yards split. Sure, his three cone

0:29:14.360 --> 0:29:17.960
<v Speaker 1>was terrible and that was surprising, right about. His shuttles

0:29:17.960 --> 0:29:20.120
<v Speaker 1>weren't great. And so this is a player who is

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<v Speaker 1>still relatively raw as a pass rusher. I mean he is.

0:29:23.320 --> 0:29:25.280
<v Speaker 1>Motors did a nice job. I went back and watch

0:29:25.360 --> 0:29:27.800
<v Speaker 1>Bowls play against him. Bolls did a nice job the

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<v Speaker 1>Utah at tackle. He got him frustrated. He did. McKinley is,

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<v Speaker 1>he's extremely relentless. The motor is lit. But sid yeah,

0:29:37.640 --> 0:29:40.479
<v Speaker 1>he does have some you know, he's not a perfect

0:29:40.480 --> 0:29:42.840
<v Speaker 1>player either, So there are some questions there. But that's

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<v Speaker 1>why I think he could be available for you at

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<v Speaker 1>twenty eight, and at twenty eight, I think that's the

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<v Speaker 1>good value at that point. I agree, and I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>have a problem taking either one of those guys I

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<v Speaker 1>just listed. You know, Garrett McKinley, you know, I see

0:29:54.880 --> 0:29:58.080
<v Speaker 1>him in the same got him ahead of Lawson, you know,

0:29:58.200 --> 0:30:00.960
<v Speaker 1>I mean, and I like Lawson, And in my mind

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<v Speaker 1>when we started this journey, I'm thinking Lawson's our guy

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<v Speaker 1>at twenty eight, because I'm not thinking McKinley is gonna

0:30:07.000 --> 0:30:09.600
<v Speaker 1>be there now, not thinking now, I'm thinking there's gonna

0:30:09.600 --> 0:30:14.040
<v Speaker 1>be a quality player there at twenty eight. Agree, and

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<v Speaker 1>at a position they need. I really think it's going

0:30:17.240 --> 0:30:18.800
<v Speaker 1>to be a pass rusher or a corner. I just

0:30:18.840 --> 0:30:22.360
<v Speaker 1>have this feeling safety. Maybe throw that in there. Actually, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I love good segues. Thank you, Brian. I know, like

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to talk about the radio professional. I

0:30:27.640 --> 0:30:29.560
<v Speaker 1>feel like we need to talk about this because I

0:30:29.640 --> 0:30:32.960
<v Speaker 1>hear about this guy more than anybody else. And I

0:30:33.000 --> 0:30:34.840
<v Speaker 1>don't need y'all to tell me that you think he

0:30:34.880 --> 0:30:37.040
<v Speaker 1>can play running back. We don't need to go there.

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<v Speaker 1>But Cowboy fans want to know about Jabrill Peppers. Is

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<v Speaker 1>there a case for him at twenty eight to do

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<v Speaker 1>something on this team. What do you think about him? Etc. Etc.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're a Cowboy fan, here's your wild card. Get

0:30:52.560 --> 0:30:55.840
<v Speaker 1>ready for this one. Greg Jackson is now on the staff.

0:30:56.240 --> 0:30:59.600
<v Speaker 1>Greg Jackson was Greg Jackson was with him at Michigan.

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<v Speaker 1>Greg Jackson will be able to tell them the scouts

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<v Speaker 1>everything that he can and cannot do, maybe all the

0:31:07.800 --> 0:31:11.200
<v Speaker 1>things you don't see on film. But my old teammate

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<v Speaker 1>from LSU is a safety's coach here, and trust me,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to saddle up to him when I see

0:31:16.280 --> 0:31:19.400
<v Speaker 1>him in this cafeteria and ask him, because you got

0:31:19.400 --> 0:31:21.480
<v Speaker 1>to figure this out. I think the guy could play

0:31:21.560 --> 0:31:24.040
<v Speaker 1>running back. Dane thinks he could play strong safety. He's

0:31:24.080 --> 0:31:26.320
<v Speaker 1>a hell of a football player, no doubt about that.

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<v Speaker 1>But what do you do? I mean, it's the argument

0:31:29.640 --> 0:31:33.200
<v Speaker 1>he just made for Ross. What do you do? Where

0:31:33.200 --> 0:31:35.040
<v Speaker 1>do you play him? How do you work him? What

0:31:35.080 --> 0:31:36.600
<v Speaker 1>are all the things you could do with this? Let

0:31:36.600 --> 0:31:38.640
<v Speaker 1>me throw this at you, and I use this as

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<v Speaker 1>an example for Buddha Baker, and I think it makes

0:31:40.720 --> 0:31:42.840
<v Speaker 1>a lot of sense. Given the I would rather have

0:31:42.880 --> 0:31:45.360
<v Speaker 1>Buddha Baker fair enough, and I think, yeah, I think

0:31:45.400 --> 0:31:48.000
<v Speaker 1>both of y'all have said that before, but you'd think

0:31:48.000 --> 0:31:50.800
<v Speaker 1>about Byron Jones. He did not have a clearly defined

0:31:51.080 --> 0:31:53.520
<v Speaker 1>role when he was drafted by this team right away.

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<v Speaker 1>Would you be willing to spend the twenty eighth pick

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<v Speaker 1>on a guy like Jabrill Peppers? Keep Jeff Heath as

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<v Speaker 1>you're starting strong safety and just let him be a

0:32:03.520 --> 0:32:08.320
<v Speaker 1>free range whatever guy. And I mean any role in dimeback, nickelback,

0:32:08.960 --> 0:32:11.080
<v Speaker 1>whatever it is he can do. I mean you're basically

0:32:11.160 --> 0:32:14.680
<v Speaker 1>drafting a role player in the first round. Is that feasible? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>At twenty eight, I'm willing to roll the dice there

0:32:17.680 --> 0:32:22.600
<v Speaker 1>for Jibrol Peppers. His struggles in coverage, you know we've

0:32:22.600 --> 0:32:26.440
<v Speaker 1>talked about that's so well said. I mean he's an

0:32:26.440 --> 0:32:29.440
<v Speaker 1>elite athlete, he really is, yes, but that doesn't always

0:32:29.480 --> 0:32:32.800
<v Speaker 1>translate to understanding what it takes to be an elite

0:32:32.800 --> 0:32:36.200
<v Speaker 1>cover guy. And you know, watching him on tape, tight

0:32:36.280 --> 0:32:38.200
<v Speaker 1>ends were able to gain separation from him. I mean,

0:32:38.240 --> 0:32:41.200
<v Speaker 1>it's just he's not He needs a lot of work

0:32:41.200 --> 0:32:43.960
<v Speaker 1>in coverage and I think he'll get there. And talked

0:32:43.960 --> 0:32:49.040
<v Speaker 1>about this before, but how you know stretched out he

0:32:49.080 --> 0:32:52.120
<v Speaker 1>wasn't Michigan because he was on offense. There was not

0:32:52.160 --> 0:32:54.320
<v Speaker 1>just like five plays for him on offense. He had

0:32:54.360 --> 0:32:57.760
<v Speaker 1>to know the entire playbook right, especially once they're starting

0:32:57.840 --> 0:33:02.280
<v Speaker 1>quarterback went down. His role grew little bit on special team,

0:33:02.320 --> 0:33:04.760
<v Speaker 1>so he was in all these meetings during the week,

0:33:05.280 --> 0:33:07.440
<v Speaker 1>and I don't think he fully had the chance. And

0:33:07.480 --> 0:33:10.400
<v Speaker 1>he was. He was a corner when he first arrived

0:33:10.440 --> 0:33:14.800
<v Speaker 1>at Michigan, played a lot, linebacker, played nickel. He wasn't

0:33:14.800 --> 0:33:18.120
<v Speaker 1>allowed to focus on one set of responsibilities and you know,

0:33:18.200 --> 0:33:20.800
<v Speaker 1>do those things and develop at that one position once

0:33:20.840 --> 0:33:23.600
<v Speaker 1>he gets to the NFL. That's why I'm almost kind

0:33:23.640 --> 0:33:26.959
<v Speaker 1>of against him being that free range guy. I want him.

0:33:27.080 --> 0:33:29.920
<v Speaker 1>Give him one set of responsibilities. Let him do one thing,

0:33:30.160 --> 0:33:32.640
<v Speaker 1>and he'll get better in coverage we know we can

0:33:33.000 --> 0:33:35.440
<v Speaker 1>do as an athlete. Just let him run. I think

0:33:35.480 --> 0:33:37.840
<v Speaker 1>as a strong safety at twenty eight, he should be

0:33:37.840 --> 0:33:41.720
<v Speaker 1>in the conversation quick okay, quickly, y'all expect him to

0:33:41.760 --> 0:33:44.920
<v Speaker 1>be there at twenty eight. No, I think he'll go earlier. Brian.

0:33:47.080 --> 0:33:49.560
<v Speaker 1>With the way the city, Yeah, I think somebody will

0:33:49.560 --> 0:33:51.400
<v Speaker 1>figure out what they're wanted. I think somebody will have,

0:33:51.480 --> 0:33:53.280
<v Speaker 1>like Dane says, I think he again he said it

0:33:53.360 --> 0:33:55.640
<v Speaker 1>very well. Someone will come with a plan. Okay, I

0:33:55.640 --> 0:33:59.080
<v Speaker 1>don't think he'll be there. Michael wants to know we

0:33:59.200 --> 0:34:01.600
<v Speaker 1>talk touched. I'll tell you why can. It's gonna sound

0:34:01.640 --> 0:34:05.960
<v Speaker 1>really stupid, real real quick. Somebody will like some some

0:34:06.120 --> 0:34:09.160
<v Speaker 1>general manager has an ego that when you take a

0:34:09.200 --> 0:34:13.200
<v Speaker 1>guy like that, you look smart. Yeah, you know you're

0:34:13.239 --> 0:34:15.920
<v Speaker 1>the you're the smartest guy in the room. I know

0:34:16.000 --> 0:34:18.880
<v Speaker 1>a lot of these general managers, and some will say

0:34:19.120 --> 0:34:21.440
<v Speaker 1>everybody wants that first pick to be the one that,

0:34:21.560 --> 0:34:24.960
<v Speaker 1>like everybody's buzzing about. Yeah, that that stops down draft

0:34:25.080 --> 0:34:27.880
<v Speaker 1>night when that one happens. Yeah. Well, remember Keyan O'Neill

0:34:27.920 --> 0:34:31.440
<v Speaker 1>went Top twenty last, and Keyan O'Neill has his coverage issues.

0:34:31.560 --> 0:34:33.440
<v Speaker 1>You know, he was more of a strong safety, a

0:34:33.520 --> 0:34:37.600
<v Speaker 1>bully as oh he's but yeah, physical tough guy. Yeah.

0:34:37.680 --> 0:34:41.160
<v Speaker 1>So you know, Peppers is a much better athlete, not

0:34:41.520 --> 0:34:44.520
<v Speaker 1>probably not as polished or proven as Keyan O'Neill was,

0:34:44.560 --> 0:34:47.160
<v Speaker 1>but for those same reasons, Jebrol Peppers I think will

0:34:47.239 --> 0:34:50.279
<v Speaker 1>end up some more top twenty five. Yeah, but I'm

0:34:50.320 --> 0:34:55.000
<v Speaker 1>just saying it's it sounds crazy, but some some general manager, Yeah,

0:34:55.320 --> 0:34:58.160
<v Speaker 1>let's let's look smart, We'll be the smart guys here.

0:34:58.400 --> 0:35:00.319
<v Speaker 1>That sounds like, I mean instead of it's stead of

0:35:00.320 --> 0:35:03.399
<v Speaker 1>evaluating him as what are you gonna do with him?

0:35:03.440 --> 0:35:06.440
<v Speaker 1>But if you draft this guy, you better have a plan.

0:35:07.080 --> 0:35:09.080
<v Speaker 1>You better have a plan at what you want to

0:35:09.120 --> 0:35:10.759
<v Speaker 1>do with it for his sake, I hope they do. Yep,

0:35:12.000 --> 0:35:14.520
<v Speaker 1>Michael wants to know. And when you touched on this

0:35:14.560 --> 0:35:16.920
<v Speaker 1>with McKinley, I'll throw Charles Harris out there as a

0:35:16.920 --> 0:35:21.759
<v Speaker 1>guy that didn't impress much with his workouts. Does that

0:35:21.840 --> 0:35:23.680
<v Speaker 1>how much does that concern you? You know? I mean,

0:35:23.680 --> 0:35:26.040
<v Speaker 1>and you trust the tape all that, But with these

0:35:26.080 --> 0:35:28.839
<v Speaker 1>guys that are kind of in that range, how much

0:35:28.880 --> 0:35:32.680
<v Speaker 1>does you know that that poor testing or lack of

0:35:32.840 --> 0:35:35.200
<v Speaker 1>elite athleticism, how much does that bother you compared to

0:35:35.200 --> 0:35:38.440
<v Speaker 1>their resume on tape? I mean it has to to

0:35:38.480 --> 0:35:41.040
<v Speaker 1>a certain extent. You know, it's not going to drop

0:35:41.080 --> 0:35:44.399
<v Speaker 1>him down your board. It's not going to. But at

0:35:44.440 --> 0:35:45.680
<v Speaker 1>some point, I mean you have to look at it

0:35:45.719 --> 0:35:49.120
<v Speaker 1>and say, okay, let's watch the tape and figure out, Okay,

0:35:49.200 --> 0:35:52.239
<v Speaker 1>is he tightened his hips? Uh? What's his ankle flection? Like?

0:35:52.680 --> 0:35:55.960
<v Speaker 1>Can he really you know, shave the corner? With the

0:35:55.960 --> 0:35:59.920
<v Speaker 1>flexibility that you want and as long as the tape

0:35:59.800 --> 0:36:03.640
<v Speaker 1>to you what you need to see, I think you're okay,

0:36:03.680 --> 0:36:06.160
<v Speaker 1>more so than the numbers, but ideally you want the

0:36:06.200 --> 0:36:08.360
<v Speaker 1>numbers to match up, and for some of these guys

0:36:08.440 --> 0:36:11.600
<v Speaker 1>just that wasn't the case. Yeah, he looked like a

0:36:11.680 --> 0:36:15.280
<v Speaker 1>different player working out than the one you see on tape.

0:36:15.440 --> 0:36:17.400
<v Speaker 1>And I'm just reading the numbers right now from the

0:36:17.440 --> 0:36:21.440
<v Speaker 1>combine and these are the actually the numbers from the floor,

0:36:21.320 --> 0:36:24.960
<v Speaker 1>from the actual timing at the you know, four seven

0:36:25.120 --> 0:36:28.440
<v Speaker 1>nine four eight zero second one four eight seven four

0:36:28.520 --> 0:36:32.160
<v Speaker 1>eight one. Aren't you? Aren't you kind of boxed into

0:36:32.160 --> 0:36:34.879
<v Speaker 1>that though, when you're picking twenty eighth, I mean, I'm

0:36:34.880 --> 0:36:38.000
<v Speaker 1>not expecting physical freaks to be there at twenty eight,

0:36:38.080 --> 0:36:40.399
<v Speaker 1>at least not the upper echelon type guys. And we're

0:36:40.400 --> 0:36:43.160
<v Speaker 1>talking about some pretty good players though, Yeah, with McKinley

0:36:43.239 --> 0:36:47.520
<v Speaker 1>and guys like that, you know, Moreau especially, Yeah, I

0:36:47.560 --> 0:36:49.640
<v Speaker 1>think this workout at Missouri is going to be really

0:36:49.680 --> 0:36:51.719
<v Speaker 1>important for him to say happen, just to have a

0:36:51.719 --> 0:36:55.080
<v Speaker 1>better time, maybe a better twenty shuttle. Because you do

0:36:55.200 --> 0:36:58.120
<v Speaker 1>watch the tape. The tape is you could see him Ben,

0:36:58.200 --> 0:37:00.200
<v Speaker 1>You could see him getting around the corner. You can

0:37:00.280 --> 0:37:03.799
<v Speaker 1>see first step quickness. You know that surprises me because

0:37:03.800 --> 0:37:07.440
<v Speaker 1>then again you talk about the kid from Kansas States,

0:37:07.560 --> 0:37:11.879
<v Speaker 1>Jordan Willis. Jordan Willis does his three cone is like

0:37:12.080 --> 0:37:15.359
<v Speaker 1>through the roof, and you're saying, anybody's like, wait a minute,

0:37:15.400 --> 0:37:18.600
<v Speaker 1>he didn't play that way. So sometimes you get fooled

0:37:18.640 --> 0:37:22.440
<v Speaker 1>if did they train but to meet the tape. The

0:37:22.520 --> 0:37:25.719
<v Speaker 1>thing with Harris will be the tape. And I hope

0:37:25.760 --> 0:37:27.360
<v Speaker 1>he has a better forty today and I hope he

0:37:27.360 --> 0:37:29.320
<v Speaker 1>has a better three cone in a better twenty shuttle.

0:37:29.360 --> 0:37:31.760
<v Speaker 1>And what I think is working in Charles Harris's favor

0:37:31.960 --> 0:37:34.640
<v Speaker 1>is during the positional workouts at the combine, he looked

0:37:34.680 --> 0:37:36.799
<v Speaker 1>really good. Yeah, um, you know, the forty and the

0:37:36.840 --> 0:37:40.279
<v Speaker 1>agility testing all that wasn't great, it was average. But

0:37:40.480 --> 0:37:42.960
<v Speaker 1>during the positional drills I thought he really he really

0:37:43.040 --> 0:37:45.919
<v Speaker 1>looked good and helped himself in that regard. I've got

0:37:45.920 --> 0:37:49.360
<v Speaker 1>a really awesome outside the box question from someone named

0:37:49.400 --> 0:37:53.120
<v Speaker 1>I need money. So we all so do I we

0:37:53.200 --> 0:37:56.920
<v Speaker 1>talk about the potential of a need at tackle. Yeah,

0:37:57.400 --> 0:38:00.279
<v Speaker 1>could Rico Gathers play tackle so that you don't have

0:38:00.280 --> 0:38:04.839
<v Speaker 1>to worry about drafting one interesting because they used him

0:38:04.840 --> 0:38:06.840
<v Speaker 1>on the scout team last year and I as a

0:38:06.880 --> 0:38:11.719
<v Speaker 1>guy that could that was a fill in tackle. But

0:38:12.360 --> 0:38:17.319
<v Speaker 1>with the situation also too at tight end, do you

0:38:17.440 --> 0:38:20.319
<v Speaker 1>worry about do you say, well, now we've kind of

0:38:20.320 --> 0:38:23.879
<v Speaker 1>spent this year trying to develop him as a as

0:38:23.920 --> 0:38:25.440
<v Speaker 1>a maybe the last thing you want to do is

0:38:25.440 --> 0:38:27.279
<v Speaker 1>give him a new duty. Yeah? Why do I want it?

0:38:27.280 --> 0:38:28.960
<v Speaker 1>Why do I want to spend three hundred and sixty

0:38:28.960 --> 0:38:31.960
<v Speaker 1>five more days trying to make him a tackle? Yeah?

0:38:32.200 --> 0:38:34.760
<v Speaker 1>But it's you know what, great question though? I actually,

0:38:34.800 --> 0:38:37.080
<v Speaker 1>I mean I kind of problem solved. I like outside

0:38:37.120 --> 0:38:40.040
<v Speaker 1>the box thinking that's great. Is there anybody you would

0:38:40.080 --> 0:38:42.400
<v Speaker 1>like him in the better than in the fourth or

0:38:42.440 --> 0:38:44.920
<v Speaker 1>fifth round? And we've talked about this tackle class not

0:38:45.000 --> 0:38:48.000
<v Speaker 1>being great as a tackle. As a tackle, I mean,

0:38:48.040 --> 0:38:50.520
<v Speaker 1>if you were to project him as a tackle, would

0:38:50.520 --> 0:38:55.239
<v Speaker 1>you like him better than say Banner Sharp? I don't.

0:38:55.280 --> 0:38:58.400
<v Speaker 1>I can't even. I would not take him over anyone

0:38:58.400 --> 0:39:00.520
<v Speaker 1>in this in this I wouldn't draft as a tackle

0:39:00.520 --> 0:39:03.160
<v Speaker 1>if you Okay, So if it's say, say we took

0:39:03.239 --> 0:39:05.520
<v Speaker 1>him and put him in this draft class, I would not.

0:39:05.800 --> 0:39:07.399
<v Speaker 1>I would not. I wouldn't draft him as a tackle.

0:39:07.400 --> 0:39:10.120
<v Speaker 1>I've never seen him go through tackle drills. Does he

0:39:10.200 --> 0:39:12.200
<v Speaker 1>have can he sustain the weight? You know, what's his

0:39:12.280 --> 0:39:14.640
<v Speaker 1>contact I've never seen him play tied in either, but

0:39:14.680 --> 0:39:16.719
<v Speaker 1>we could. We saw the drills, you know, we saw

0:39:16.800 --> 0:39:20.080
<v Speaker 1>him him in the preseason and whatever. We saw him

0:39:20.080 --> 0:39:22.200
<v Speaker 1>catch the ball during drills at this time last year.

0:39:22.239 --> 0:39:24.680
<v Speaker 1>Do we know about Rico Gathers. We knew about him

0:39:24.800 --> 0:39:28.160
<v Speaker 1>as a potential guy that we saw him work at workouts. Yeah,

0:39:28.200 --> 0:39:30.200
<v Speaker 1>I mean we saw him catch the ball, we saw

0:39:30.280 --> 0:39:32.080
<v Speaker 1>him move around, we saw him run some rounds. We

0:39:32.120 --> 0:39:36.120
<v Speaker 1>could tell you he's athletic. But playing tackle is more

0:39:36.160 --> 0:39:39.800
<v Speaker 1>about technique. And I mean size is great, length is great.

0:39:40.480 --> 0:39:43.520
<v Speaker 1>It's way more about the technical skill at the position.

0:39:43.640 --> 0:39:46.520
<v Speaker 1>And if you don't have that, then you're gonna get

0:39:46.520 --> 0:39:48.480
<v Speaker 1>eaten up by the pass rushers in this league. And

0:39:48.520 --> 0:39:52.080
<v Speaker 1>so this Rico Gathers is not helping you this year.

0:39:52.200 --> 0:39:54.279
<v Speaker 1>You could start right now and he's not gonna help

0:39:54.320 --> 0:39:59.160
<v Speaker 1>you this year at tackle. He's not probably fair, No,

0:39:59.360 --> 0:40:02.040
<v Speaker 1>I like like when people think like that, I mean

0:40:02.200 --> 0:40:04.600
<v Speaker 1>because he has the size. Sure, maybe for if you're

0:40:04.640 --> 0:40:07.240
<v Speaker 1>planning for chas and eighteen, Yeah, maybe, but you're planning

0:40:07.280 --> 0:40:09.600
<v Speaker 1>for twenty seventeen. You've done not gonna help made this

0:40:09.680 --> 0:40:13.319
<v Speaker 1>Germany journey to be a tight end. Yeah, that's what

0:40:13.400 --> 0:40:15.759
<v Speaker 1>your hope is. You hope he makes the team is

0:40:15.760 --> 0:40:17.960
<v Speaker 1>on the fifty three is a tied end. Okay, Well,

0:40:18.000 --> 0:40:21.560
<v Speaker 1>let's say that they really like Adam Sheheen at pick

0:40:21.680 --> 0:40:24.880
<v Speaker 1>sixty and that's the direction they go. Then all of

0:40:24.960 --> 0:40:28.279
<v Speaker 1>a sudden Heshen you've seen him play. Yeah, well, and

0:40:28.280 --> 0:40:30.759
<v Speaker 1>then all of a sudden Rico Gallers, let's bulk him

0:40:30.840 --> 0:40:34.239
<v Speaker 1>up needed sixty. If he's there, I don't know if

0:40:34.239 --> 0:40:36.200
<v Speaker 1>he'll be there. Dane finds a way to talk about

0:40:36.239 --> 0:40:38.440
<v Speaker 1>Shaheen on every episode, and you know what, those other

0:40:38.480 --> 0:40:41.560
<v Speaker 1>guy cowboys, they showed interest. But also the show is

0:40:41.600 --> 0:40:44.600
<v Speaker 1>the Chicago Bears, the Saints, the Steelers, Oakland and Detroit.

0:40:45.200 --> 0:40:47.520
<v Speaker 1>That's why he might not be there at sixty. There's

0:40:47.520 --> 0:40:50.400
<v Speaker 1>a very possible scenario where he's gone somewhere in the

0:40:50.400 --> 0:40:52.399
<v Speaker 1>top five. Watch his face light up on day two

0:40:52.520 --> 0:40:56.120
<v Speaker 1>when that all happens. I told you play that podcast again.

0:40:56.320 --> 0:40:58.239
<v Speaker 1>Bane's gonna go. You got one more question for us,

0:40:58.280 --> 0:41:03.000
<v Speaker 1>Dave Um Yet I got a Senior Bowl question from

0:41:03.040 --> 0:41:08.399
<v Speaker 1>Mark cam Sutton and russellll Douglas. One I think needs

0:41:08.400 --> 0:41:12.160
<v Speaker 1>to play safety. That would be Sutton Sutton. Yeah, because

0:41:12.200 --> 0:41:14.319
<v Speaker 1>I watched him. You talk about watching somebody I know.

0:41:14.360 --> 0:41:17.279
<v Speaker 1>I keep bringing this up about Sutton. He looked far

0:41:17.360 --> 0:41:20.120
<v Speaker 1>more comfortable play in safety than he did playing corner,

0:41:20.640 --> 0:41:24.120
<v Speaker 1>and he actually had to cover Oj Howard and he

0:41:24.200 --> 0:41:27.600
<v Speaker 1>looked good doing it, like he was not intimidated having

0:41:27.600 --> 0:41:31.919
<v Speaker 1>to take Oj Howard and carry that size. I think

0:41:31.920 --> 0:41:35.359
<v Speaker 1>that there's several guys in this draft, King being the

0:41:35.400 --> 0:41:38.680
<v Speaker 1>top of the corner that could be the safety guy.

0:41:38.880 --> 0:41:42.040
<v Speaker 1>And if you're playing with these six defensive backs and

0:41:42.120 --> 0:41:44.240
<v Speaker 1>you've got a guy that could play safety, play corner,

0:41:44.280 --> 0:41:49.400
<v Speaker 1>Cowboys covers for safeties A lot ton, Yeah, a ton Yeah.

0:41:49.440 --> 0:41:52.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm not so much though on Douglas. I like Douglas

0:41:52.719 --> 0:41:54.640
<v Speaker 1>at the Senior Bowl, Like he was better at the

0:41:54.680 --> 0:41:57.279
<v Speaker 1>Senior Bowl than he was on tape. There's another one

0:41:57.280 --> 0:41:58.799
<v Speaker 1>of those guys. I don't know. I didn't see. I'm

0:41:58.800 --> 0:42:00.239
<v Speaker 1>not a big fan of either of those guys. I

0:42:00.239 --> 0:42:02.239
<v Speaker 1>think there's a sudden. Yeah, I'm trying to find a

0:42:02.280 --> 0:42:04.880
<v Speaker 1>spot for Sudden. I'm not saying these guys are day

0:42:04.920 --> 0:42:07.600
<v Speaker 1>are day you know, I'm looking at my cornerback rankings,

0:42:07.760 --> 0:42:12.640
<v Speaker 1>neither or in my top fourteen. These are day three picks. Yeah, yeah, yeah, well,

0:42:12.680 --> 0:42:15.759
<v Speaker 1>and I'm Douglas might go even sooner than that with

0:42:16.040 --> 0:42:19.680
<v Speaker 1>that size. Yeah. I have Sudden in the fifth and

0:42:19.680 --> 0:42:22.000
<v Speaker 1>I had Douglas in the fourth. Okay, so yeah, we're

0:42:22.000 --> 0:42:24.359
<v Speaker 1>on the same page. Then. I just think that might

0:42:24.400 --> 0:42:25.880
<v Speaker 1>go a little bit earlier than that. Yeah, I think

0:42:25.920 --> 0:42:28.200
<v Speaker 1>there will be teams that like them more than we do. Okay,

0:42:28.360 --> 0:42:31.279
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<v Speaker 1>Last few prospects right around four hundred and fifty players

0:45:25.800 --> 0:45:29.920
<v Speaker 1>in there, um like top three hundred full profiles and

0:45:29.960 --> 0:45:31.879
<v Speaker 1>then the next one hundred hundred and fifty. I've done

0:45:32.480 --> 0:45:35.120
<v Speaker 1>kind of summaries on each more, you know, the priority

0:45:35.160 --> 0:45:38.280
<v Speaker 1>free agent pool. But that'll be very ready here hopefully

0:45:38.440 --> 0:45:40.840
<v Speaker 1>a week from tomorrow, next Friday. Than you get that,

0:45:40.920 --> 0:45:42.520
<v Speaker 1>they go to your twitter. Yeah, go on my Twitter,

0:45:43.080 --> 0:45:46.800
<v Speaker 1>tweet out the link. It's a pdf download. Uh you

0:45:46.800 --> 0:45:49.600
<v Speaker 1>got back. It's been awesome from everyone, so you should

0:45:49.760 --> 0:45:52.279
<v Speaker 1>the best it is. It's the best draft guide in

0:45:52.320 --> 0:45:54.040
<v Speaker 1>the in the market. We've got a draft guide too

0:45:54.040 --> 0:45:57.920
<v Speaker 1>that we're doing Star Magazine. We're putting together our stuff

0:45:57.920 --> 0:46:00.359
<v Speaker 1>as well. That should be out a couple weeks before

0:46:00.400 --> 0:46:02.600
<v Speaker 1>the draft. We're working on that, getting it all squared away.

0:46:02.640 --> 0:46:05.600
<v Speaker 1>So make sure you get Dame Brugler's the Beast again

0:46:05.760 --> 0:46:09.160
<v Speaker 1>DP Brugler. You can follow along on that. He will

0:46:09.480 --> 0:46:11.400
<v Speaker 1>tweet the link out to where you can order that,

0:46:11.480 --> 0:46:13.680
<v Speaker 1>and then Star Magazine will put some more information out

0:46:13.719 --> 0:46:17.839
<v Speaker 1>about that as well. All right, David Hellman, tell me more.

0:46:17.880 --> 0:46:20.000
<v Speaker 1>All right, we need to go rapid fire today because

0:46:20.000 --> 0:46:21.839
<v Speaker 1>I feel like Twitter on the twenty went long. Yeah,

0:46:21.880 --> 0:46:25.480
<v Speaker 1>it's okay, but as usual, the goal here, I'm trying

0:46:25.520 --> 0:46:28.680
<v Speaker 1>to find us players that we either haven't even mentioned

0:46:28.800 --> 0:46:31.480
<v Speaker 1>or at least haven't really discussed in detail. With that

0:46:31.600 --> 0:46:36.440
<v Speaker 1>in mind, guys, tell me more about Middle Tennessee cornerback

0:46:36.600 --> 0:46:42.279
<v Speaker 1>Jeremy Koutrare. Good name, and I'm glad you said his

0:46:42.400 --> 0:46:46.440
<v Speaker 1>name correctly. I'm a little biased. He was supposed to

0:46:46.480 --> 0:46:49.279
<v Speaker 1>be an LSU guy, so twice. Yeah, I knew who

0:46:49.360 --> 0:46:53.640
<v Speaker 1>he was before the draft cycle started. It's a player

0:46:53.680 --> 0:46:55.799
<v Speaker 1>who yeah, like like David said, it supposed to an

0:46:55.880 --> 0:46:58.280
<v Speaker 1>LSU guy out of high school and then after Juco

0:46:58.920 --> 0:47:02.160
<v Speaker 1>just didn't have the grades, couldn't qualify academically. So he

0:47:02.360 --> 0:47:06.600
<v Speaker 1>find winds his winds up at Middle Tennessee and he's

0:47:06.680 --> 0:47:11.799
<v Speaker 1>that tall, lean, speedy corner who can move pretty well.

0:47:11.880 --> 0:47:14.200
<v Speaker 1>The big question is weight he was in the mid

0:47:14.280 --> 0:47:16.920
<v Speaker 1>one sixties. Yeah, one hundred and seventy pounds. Yeah, well

0:47:16.920 --> 0:47:18.799
<v Speaker 1>he was even lower than that at the pro day.

0:47:18.840 --> 0:47:22.279
<v Speaker 1>I mean, he's very, very lean, but he's got kind

0:47:22.320 --> 0:47:25.000
<v Speaker 1>of it's his backstory is just all over the place,

0:47:25.080 --> 0:47:27.800
<v Speaker 1>like even right now, and he's living on people's couches

0:47:28.040 --> 0:47:30.840
<v Speaker 1>right uh, and so he doesn't have that nutrition program

0:47:30.960 --> 0:47:33.880
<v Speaker 1>right now that's going to help him maintain that weight. Surprise,

0:47:33.960 --> 0:47:36.480
<v Speaker 1>he wasn't at the combine. He's a draftable player, uh,

0:47:36.680 --> 0:47:39.600
<v Speaker 1>you know somewhere I think the fourth fifth round. If

0:47:39.640 --> 0:47:43.120
<v Speaker 1>a team invested in him gets that weight up, I

0:47:43.200 --> 0:47:45.319
<v Speaker 1>think that they're gonna have themselves a player, a guy

0:47:45.400 --> 0:47:47.480
<v Speaker 1>who can start in this league, similar to Robinson who

0:47:47.520 --> 0:47:50.040
<v Speaker 1>the forty nine ers to correct that kind of lean guy.

0:47:50.120 --> 0:47:52.960
<v Speaker 1>It is the LSU connection there, But yeah, I think

0:47:53.040 --> 0:47:56.000
<v Speaker 1>that the players. He watched him on tape last night

0:47:56.040 --> 0:47:59.239
<v Speaker 1>a little bit, and he's got the ability to cover.

0:47:59.360 --> 0:48:01.880
<v Speaker 1>There's no doubt about that length. The link that the

0:48:02.080 --> 0:48:04.879
<v Speaker 1>tackling is a little bit, you know, but a lot

0:48:05.000 --> 0:48:09.040
<v Speaker 1>of off coverage though, a lot of drop drop, drop

0:48:09.120 --> 0:48:10.960
<v Speaker 1>and then drive that kind of thing. But when he

0:48:11.040 --> 0:48:13.560
<v Speaker 1>gets up on somebody, he can turn, he can mirror,

0:48:13.640 --> 0:48:16.120
<v Speaker 1>he can go. I do like the player. I think

0:48:16.160 --> 0:48:19.360
<v Speaker 1>you're absolutely right. Someone needs to make the investment on

0:48:19.560 --> 0:48:22.560
<v Speaker 1>him and try and put some weight on him one

0:48:22.680 --> 0:48:25.040
<v Speaker 1>hundred and seventy pounds. That will be difficult, six one,

0:48:25.520 --> 0:48:28.200
<v Speaker 1>one seventy. I think he's talking talking to his coach.

0:48:29.160 --> 0:48:31.160
<v Speaker 1>I couldn't get his coaches say a negative word about

0:48:31.160 --> 0:48:32.759
<v Speaker 1>he just raved. He said it's the best player he's

0:48:32.760 --> 0:48:35.640
<v Speaker 1>ever coached. Yeah. Wow, good program to at Middle Tennessee. Yeah,

0:48:35.880 --> 0:48:38.000
<v Speaker 1>and they had the top combine stumble last year with

0:48:38.080 --> 0:48:40.279
<v Speaker 1>buyer to safety went to Tennessee and with third or

0:48:40.320 --> 0:48:43.200
<v Speaker 1>fourth rounds, right, fourth, fifth round, that's what we think.

0:48:43.640 --> 0:48:45.320
<v Speaker 1>I would probably take him higher, but in terms of

0:48:45.440 --> 0:48:47.839
<v Speaker 1>value where he's gonna end up, I think fourth, fifth round. Yeah?

0:48:48.040 --> 0:48:50.480
<v Speaker 1>Like it? All right? This guy intrigues the hell out

0:48:50.520 --> 0:48:52.560
<v Speaker 1>of me. And so I want you to tell me

0:48:52.680 --> 0:48:58.160
<v Speaker 1>more about Miami running back Joe Yearby. I have you

0:48:58.200 --> 0:49:00.480
<v Speaker 1>watched yarb? Yeah? I did? Did you like him? Because

0:49:00.480 --> 0:49:02.920
<v Speaker 1>I I wasn't. I like his explosive I like the quickness.

0:49:03.360 --> 0:49:05.800
<v Speaker 1>I think he's a four or four two guy. He's short,

0:49:05.880 --> 0:49:08.880
<v Speaker 1>he's five eight and a half. But I like the

0:49:09.000 --> 0:49:12.360
<v Speaker 1>explosiveness about the player. I don't know if he could finish,

0:49:12.880 --> 0:49:15.520
<v Speaker 1>but I like his toughness. I thought he caught the

0:49:15.600 --> 0:49:18.319
<v Speaker 1>ball well and I thought the vision was really really good.

0:49:18.520 --> 0:49:20.680
<v Speaker 1>And I know he's a backup guy and that's probably

0:49:20.719 --> 0:49:22.279
<v Speaker 1>what he'll be in the league. He looks like a

0:49:22.320 --> 0:49:24.400
<v Speaker 1>stock of your dunbar. To me, he is. He's like

0:49:24.480 --> 0:49:26.759
<v Speaker 1>a he's like a fire hydrant. He's like a little

0:49:26.800 --> 0:49:29.839
<v Speaker 1>fire hydrant, that kind of stet. But you watch him run,

0:49:30.280 --> 0:49:33.000
<v Speaker 1>you do see some finish with him, you know, And

0:49:33.360 --> 0:49:36.880
<v Speaker 1>I forgot who he was watching. It was, Uh, it

0:49:37.040 --> 0:49:39.840
<v Speaker 1>might have been Georgia Tech. Linebacker's got even set up

0:49:39.920 --> 0:49:43.160
<v Speaker 1>right in the I mean right in the crosshairs and

0:49:43.280 --> 0:49:45.759
<v Speaker 1>it's it's left plant bomb out of the gate to

0:49:45.840 --> 0:49:48.040
<v Speaker 1>the right. Guy falls out of the way. Now he's

0:49:48.120 --> 0:49:51.520
<v Speaker 1>up into the second level. So I like the explosiveness

0:49:51.680 --> 0:49:55.239
<v Speaker 1>of the player, but I don't really know. Is he

0:49:55.320 --> 0:49:57.600
<v Speaker 1>going to be the every down guy? Probably not, but

0:49:57.719 --> 0:50:00.320
<v Speaker 1>that's not what I'm looking for. No, but he It

0:50:00.400 --> 0:50:03.200
<v Speaker 1>is funny him and Dalvin Cook teammates same backfield in

0:50:03.320 --> 0:50:06.640
<v Speaker 1>high school, talk about, you know, trying to defending that backfield. Uh,

0:50:06.680 --> 0:50:08.640
<v Speaker 1>And it's funny because he has initially committed to Florida

0:50:08.680 --> 0:50:10.839
<v Speaker 1>State and then he switched in Miami. Then Dalvin Cook

0:50:10.880 --> 0:50:12.759
<v Speaker 1>went from clumps In to Florida State. That was a

0:50:12.800 --> 0:50:14.920
<v Speaker 1>whole big thing with your bet. So I agree with

0:50:14.960 --> 0:50:17.680
<v Speaker 1>everything you can said except one thing, and that's the vision. Yeah.

0:50:17.760 --> 0:50:20.000
<v Speaker 1>I didn't see the vision when you When I watched

0:50:20.080 --> 0:50:22.560
<v Speaker 1>him on tape, it was he had vision, but his

0:50:22.640 --> 0:50:26.160
<v Speaker 1>tunnel vision, and he was missing open holes here left right.

0:50:26.400 --> 0:50:30.040
<v Speaker 1>He he he's very patient and he follows his blocks,

0:50:30.080 --> 0:50:33.160
<v Speaker 1>but almost to a fault because he's following his blocks

0:50:33.200 --> 0:50:35.680
<v Speaker 1>even when there's an open hole developing over here, he

0:50:35.760 --> 0:50:38.239
<v Speaker 1>just didn't sense it. And so is there a place

0:50:38.520 --> 0:50:40.560
<v Speaker 1>in the NFL possibly for a guy like that who

0:50:40.880 --> 0:50:42.719
<v Speaker 1>is going to follow the play design and he does

0:50:42.840 --> 0:50:44.480
<v Speaker 1>have the toughness, he does have a little bit of

0:50:44.520 --> 0:50:48.120
<v Speaker 1>burst to him. Sure, absolutely, But I do question the vision.

0:50:48.239 --> 0:50:51.040
<v Speaker 1>It's just an instinctive feel. I don't see that. That's

0:50:51.080 --> 0:50:53.279
<v Speaker 1>why to me, he's more of a dime a dozen back,

0:50:53.560 --> 0:50:55.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, the guy that. Sure he might be able to,

0:50:56.160 --> 0:50:57.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, make a depth chart and help you out

0:50:57.920 --> 0:50:59.840
<v Speaker 1>a little bit, but I don't think he's any more special.

0:51:00.040 --> 0:51:02.120
<v Speaker 1>Veghables might not help him. If you're looking for a

0:51:02.160 --> 0:51:05.320
<v Speaker 1>guy at the end of the draft, we're just drafted

0:51:05.360 --> 0:51:07.880
<v Speaker 1>traits sounds it sounds like Dane's talking about a priority

0:51:07.920 --> 0:51:09.640
<v Speaker 1>free agent here. I have him greater as a priority

0:51:09.640 --> 0:51:12.920
<v Speaker 1>for I had him in the sixth round. That's what

0:51:13.040 --> 0:51:15.040
<v Speaker 1>I want though that and that's why he's intriguing to men.

0:51:15.040 --> 0:51:16.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna have to show him some tape of him

0:51:16.520 --> 0:51:18.920
<v Speaker 1>with the vision. This is a guy we actually have

0:51:19.040 --> 0:51:24.120
<v Speaker 1>talked about, but not in a while, and it's fitting

0:51:24.120 --> 0:51:27.080
<v Speaker 1>because Michigan has their pro day tomorrow. Tell me a

0:51:27.160 --> 0:51:31.600
<v Speaker 1>little bit more about Chris Warmley, one of the highest

0:51:31.760 --> 0:51:34.560
<v Speaker 1>floors I think of this draft. You just know who

0:51:34.640 --> 0:51:36.960
<v Speaker 1>he is. He's not a great pass rusher, but he's

0:51:37.080 --> 0:51:41.320
<v Speaker 1>he's big, he's stocky. He's going to give you snaps

0:51:41.360 --> 0:51:44.480
<v Speaker 1>inside and outside. He's over three hundred pounds. Yeah, but

0:51:44.600 --> 0:51:46.920
<v Speaker 1>I think he's more of a defensive end. But he's

0:51:46.920 --> 0:51:49.080
<v Speaker 1>just not a pass rusher. He's your base end who

0:51:49.880 --> 0:51:53.400
<v Speaker 1>is gonna, you know, hold the edge, keep contain and

0:51:53.760 --> 0:51:55.759
<v Speaker 1>be a factor versus the run. He can also help

0:51:55.840 --> 0:51:58.120
<v Speaker 1>you out kick inside on on third down, you bring

0:51:58.160 --> 0:52:01.280
<v Speaker 1>an extra pass rusher on into the field, so whether

0:52:01.360 --> 0:52:02.920
<v Speaker 1>it's a three four or four three. I think he's

0:52:02.960 --> 0:52:06.160
<v Speaker 1>a bass end, a solid Day two pick. Nothing wow

0:52:06.280 --> 0:52:08.759
<v Speaker 1>or flashy about him, just a solid player. Yeah. The

0:52:08.880 --> 0:52:10.719
<v Speaker 1>thing about him, and I think he's a three four end.

0:52:10.800 --> 0:52:13.759
<v Speaker 1>He reminds me very much what those Oregon kids that

0:52:13.880 --> 0:52:17.400
<v Speaker 1>we watched the last couple of drafts. Yeah, Buck nor Armstead,

0:52:17.440 --> 0:52:20.160
<v Speaker 1>those guys that are better at playing as a three

0:52:20.280 --> 0:52:24.880
<v Speaker 1>four defensive end. I think the guy. I like what

0:52:25.040 --> 0:52:27.120
<v Speaker 1>Dane's saying about him. I thought he needed to get

0:52:27.160 --> 0:52:29.359
<v Speaker 1>off blocks a little bit quicker and chase the ball.

0:52:29.400 --> 0:52:32.040
<v Speaker 1>I thought he was a good awareness though good player,

0:52:32.160 --> 0:52:34.319
<v Speaker 1>like he could do some one gap stuff, even though

0:52:34.480 --> 0:52:38.080
<v Speaker 1>you think he could be a three three four defensive

0:52:38.120 --> 0:52:40.919
<v Speaker 1>end when you play two gap. But I just think,

0:52:41.120 --> 0:52:43.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, if he plays as a four three player,

0:52:43.440 --> 0:52:46.080
<v Speaker 1>he's gonna have to play as a one technique because

0:52:46.120 --> 0:52:49.040
<v Speaker 1>he doesn't have any pass rush ability. He really just doesn't.

0:52:49.280 --> 0:52:51.520
<v Speaker 1>But he's just a good run player, is what I

0:52:51.640 --> 0:52:53.680
<v Speaker 1>feel like. Where can I get him? Not that he

0:52:53.760 --> 0:52:56.719
<v Speaker 1>sounds like the Cowboys would want him, but okay, see

0:52:56.800 --> 0:52:58.800
<v Speaker 1>I kind of have a because I'm dealing with a

0:52:58.840 --> 0:53:01.960
<v Speaker 1>four three team here. My team's a four three team.

0:53:02.080 --> 0:53:03.839
<v Speaker 1>So I kind of had a comment, I have got

0:53:03.840 --> 0:53:06.240
<v Speaker 1>a bump. I have a group of guys like Whys

0:53:06.640 --> 0:53:10.480
<v Speaker 1>the Jones kid from North Carolina, Warmly, Those are my

0:53:10.680 --> 0:53:14.480
<v Speaker 1>three four defensive end guys, so I really don't have

0:53:14.719 --> 0:53:16.919
<v Speaker 1>them in the mix with And you can might even

0:53:17.000 --> 0:53:20.839
<v Speaker 1>talk about Charlton a little bit of that maybe being

0:53:20.880 --> 0:53:23.879
<v Speaker 1>a better three four defensive end guy. I don't want

0:53:23.880 --> 0:53:26.840
<v Speaker 1>to talk about Taco. I've got Warmly uh as a

0:53:26.920 --> 0:53:30.560
<v Speaker 1>two three, So goill higher than me. This is a

0:53:30.840 --> 0:53:33.520
<v Speaker 1>This is a Dane Brugler special because I didn't even

0:53:33.600 --> 0:53:35.960
<v Speaker 1>know that Bucknell had a FO three no pass Russia.

0:53:36.840 --> 0:53:39.719
<v Speaker 1>What two three and no pass rush? Well, it's what

0:53:39.840 --> 0:53:42.800
<v Speaker 1>he is. He's a he's a bass end who, okay,

0:53:43.040 --> 0:53:44.799
<v Speaker 1>is gonna give you a lot of snaps and give

0:53:44.840 --> 0:53:48.439
<v Speaker 1>me some position versatility. You're hijacking my segment. Sorry, you're

0:53:48.440 --> 0:53:51.880
<v Speaker 1>at the Senior Bowl. It's been three months since the

0:53:51.960 --> 0:53:54.880
<v Speaker 1>Senior Bowl. It's not it's not a bad a day

0:53:54.880 --> 0:53:57.320
<v Speaker 1>to revisit from time to time. Tell me more about

0:53:57.480 --> 0:54:00.840
<v Speaker 1>Julian Davenport, the offensive tackle out of buck Now, this

0:54:00.920 --> 0:54:03.040
<v Speaker 1>isn't a great tackle class. We've talked about it. But

0:54:03.600 --> 0:54:08.520
<v Speaker 1>if there is one developmental tackle that you've is that. Yeah,

0:54:08.880 --> 0:54:12.200
<v Speaker 1>you feel raw, shi, Yeah, but two to three years

0:54:12.239 --> 0:54:14.080
<v Speaker 1>from now, you feel like you can grow into something.

0:54:14.960 --> 0:54:19.600
<v Speaker 1>I think that's Davenport. Fourth round, you know, early day

0:54:19.680 --> 0:54:23.800
<v Speaker 1>three somewhere is probably his landing spot. You know, obviously

0:54:23.880 --> 0:54:27.160
<v Speaker 1>coming from the FCS level, didn't face top competition. You

0:54:27.239 --> 0:54:29.560
<v Speaker 1>saw it at the Senior Bowl. Yeah, just very very raw,

0:54:30.160 --> 0:54:33.560
<v Speaker 1>just who he is. But with those natural skills, you know,

0:54:33.640 --> 0:54:37.120
<v Speaker 1>former basketball player. He has a long armed cat, he is,

0:54:37.280 --> 0:54:39.120
<v Speaker 1>and he can move a little bit, he can move

0:54:39.160 --> 0:54:43.920
<v Speaker 1>a lot. I think, yeah, he's not, you know, not

0:54:44.080 --> 0:54:47.160
<v Speaker 1>the finisher that you want. But I think give him time.

0:54:47.360 --> 0:54:50.320
<v Speaker 1>I think he can develop that technical skill. And hopefully

0:54:50.320 --> 0:54:51.800
<v Speaker 1>you don't see him on the field this year and

0:54:51.880 --> 0:54:54.239
<v Speaker 1>for his sake, but if you, you know, draft him

0:54:54.280 --> 0:54:57.480
<v Speaker 1>in the fourth round, maybe a sophomore year year, two

0:54:57.560 --> 0:55:00.600
<v Speaker 1>year three, he can potentially give you meaningful snaps. Yeah.

0:55:00.640 --> 0:55:03.120
<v Speaker 1>I saw a guy that to me, I liked watching

0:55:03.239 --> 0:55:06.839
<v Speaker 1>him play because I felt like him getting away from

0:55:06.840 --> 0:55:09.839
<v Speaker 1>the line. He had an understanding of how to play.

0:55:10.600 --> 0:55:13.719
<v Speaker 1>But can he do everything? Like you said, the technical aspect,

0:55:14.120 --> 0:55:18.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, the kicks, slide, hands, feet, working together, the

0:55:18.239 --> 0:55:20.840
<v Speaker 1>length is all that is great. Like I said, he

0:55:20.920 --> 0:55:24.080
<v Speaker 1>only did eighteen reps, you know, with with the two

0:55:24.239 --> 0:55:26.960
<v Speaker 1>twenty five. Now, okay, Travis Frederick only did twenty one

0:55:27.000 --> 0:55:29.880
<v Speaker 1>I believe when he came in there yet exactly. So

0:55:29.960 --> 0:55:33.000
<v Speaker 1>there's guys that it's about functional strength and about weight

0:55:33.080 --> 0:55:35.440
<v Speaker 1>room strength. I don't think he has functional strength and

0:55:35.520 --> 0:55:37.239
<v Speaker 1>I don't think he has weight room strength because you

0:55:37.320 --> 0:55:40.520
<v Speaker 1>do see him get compressed some. But you know someone's

0:55:40.520 --> 0:55:43.600
<v Speaker 1>gonna draft him and they're gonna, they're gonna they're gonna

0:55:43.640 --> 0:55:46.160
<v Speaker 1>train him and get him because the feet and the

0:55:46.280 --> 0:55:49.800
<v Speaker 1>athletic ability for somebody that's like six seven is and

0:55:49.920 --> 0:55:52.719
<v Speaker 1>he's I think he's three hundred and eighteen pounds three

0:55:53.320 --> 0:55:56.359
<v Speaker 1>right in that range and a half. Yeah, So that's

0:55:56.400 --> 0:55:58.319
<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying. I think that there's a guy there.

0:55:58.400 --> 0:56:00.239
<v Speaker 1>There's a guy that if you want to develop up

0:56:00.280 --> 0:56:02.759
<v Speaker 1>a guy, you know, maybe be your fifty third guy.

0:56:03.280 --> 0:56:05.000
<v Speaker 1>This is your cat. This is a great room to

0:56:05.080 --> 0:56:07.239
<v Speaker 1>develop a tackle in eighty eighty seven and a half

0:56:07.320 --> 0:56:09.040
<v Speaker 1>in twinks me. I can't remember who tweeted this, but

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<v Speaker 1>someone tweeted that he can change both mirrors when he's

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<v Speaker 1>in the car with a wing fane. Sorry, ridiculous. Where

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<v Speaker 1>are we talking? I think fourth round? Yeah, I had

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<v Speaker 1>him more to five, sixth round. Love, I love this.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to spend a premium pick, but I

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<v Speaker 1>would do that. You don't have a five day, so

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<v Speaker 1>get one of those real quick. Tell me more about

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<v Speaker 1>Ohio linebacker Blair Brown. Like the player? You like the

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<v Speaker 1>player speedy? Uh, he's not big. He is smaller, he's

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<v Speaker 1>five eleven four maybe, but he doesn't play like it. No,

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<v Speaker 1>remember watches that defensive in bash him. Yeah, he'shim, is

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<v Speaker 1>a good player. But this Blair Brown, go ahead, remember

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<v Speaker 1>last year talking about a MAC linebacker who was undersized,

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<v Speaker 1>Jatavis Brown from Akron. Yeah, played well, ended up going

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<v Speaker 1>in the fifth round, and yeah, I did play well

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<v Speaker 1>for San Diego. He's not quite the athlete that Tavis

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<v Speaker 1>Brown is, but similar. You know the type of mold

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<v Speaker 1>where it's that MAC linebacker who's undersized, not getting the

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<v Speaker 1>just due. But he's he's a player, he's gonna He's

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<v Speaker 1>a magnet to the ball, the closing burst, outstanding a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of range, and he's not afraid to hit you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah he does night. He plays much bigger than he looks.

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<v Speaker 1>This guy, you could say, watching him play on tape,

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<v Speaker 1>you could tell he loves to play football because he

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<v Speaker 1>is always around the ball. I mean he is. He's physically,

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<v Speaker 1>I said, physically not the biggest guy. He's short, like

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<v Speaker 1>I say, five to eleven four in that range. He's

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<v Speaker 1>a sideline the sideline player, and he gets after. He

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<v Speaker 1>could beat blockers to the ball. That's what I really

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<v Speaker 1>liked about him. When you talk about the awareness, you

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<v Speaker 1>see the play, you go get down, He'll make the

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<v Speaker 1>tackle finish. I think that when you talk also about contact.

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<v Speaker 1>Balance is another thing. When he hits, he's not all

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<v Speaker 1>out of whack, he's square, he tackles, he wraps up. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Blarah Brown, where do you I put him in the

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<v Speaker 1>fourth round? So I I like this player a lot,

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<v Speaker 1>and and it's nice to know Mac. The MAC puts

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<v Speaker 1>some good players in this league. Yeah, these are tough

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<v Speaker 1>that you call it the bus league, the bus league

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<v Speaker 1>because they drive everywhere to the games the NFL from

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<v Speaker 1>the MAC. Yeah, this is what I'm looking for here.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why I like this segment. Yeah, looking for good

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<v Speaker 1>players that they don't have to spend a premium pick on.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess that's what you're telling me about right now, Kit,

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<v Speaker 1>before we get out here, is there one call available

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<v Speaker 1>or is that? Do we miss that up? No callers

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<v Speaker 1>right now? I know. I try, I try, but Kent

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<v Speaker 1>does a great job. So he'll play the music and

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<v Speaker 1>we'll get out of here. I want to thank everybody

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<v Speaker 1>for being a part of this. Want to thank Dame Brugler.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to thank you David Hellman. Want to especially

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<v Speaker 1>thank Kate Garrison for always keeping us on air. I

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<v Speaker 1>want to thank Derek Eagleton for his leadership, Kayler Stern

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<v Speaker 1>for always putting our stuff out. We'll be back next week.

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<v Speaker 1>We will be back to to investigate and educate. Appreciate

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