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Speaker 1: This is the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft show. Cowboys

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Speaker 1: on your war Room for incenter news and draft analysis

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Speaker 1: from deep within the confines of Cowboys Headquarters at the

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Speaker 1: Star in Fresco, Dallas Cowboys Select Elliott and now your

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Speaker 1: hosts Dane Brugler, David Hellman and Brian brought us. Well,

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Speaker 1: it's now down to thirty five days until the two

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Speaker 1: thousand seventeen NFL Draft will take place in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.

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Speaker 1: Brian brought us Dane Brugler, CBS Sports and Dallas Cowboys

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Speaker 1: dot Com. David Hellman from Dallas Cowboys dot Com. Kate Garrison,

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Speaker 1: Executive Producer. I want to welcome everybody to joy. How

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Speaker 1: about that thirty five days? Boys, This one seems like

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Speaker 1: it's sneaking up even faster than usual. To me, I'd agree. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's a random assessment on my part and we've been

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Speaker 1: through a lot, but a lot, a lot of way

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Speaker 1: to go. Yeah, a few pro days, uh today if

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Speaker 1: you important for days? Yeah, that's what I was gonna

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Speaker 1: get into. I was gonna get into on this show.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry before you do that. I was just I

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Speaker 1: think I got so used to last year, really like

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Speaker 1: we already we already it was a fourth overall pick.

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Speaker 1: We already had it all narrowed down last year. Because

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Speaker 1: it was the fourth pick, you really only had to

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Speaker 1: worry about eight guys. Less than that, like five guys. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and now it's I got nothing. I got no clue.

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Speaker 1: I got no clue. I got nothing. It's thirty five days.

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Speaker 1: We'll figure it out, We'll get we're yeah, we're gonna

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Speaker 1: have wake up one day. We'll be talking about But

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Speaker 1: by the way, we've had some meetings. Just to let

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Speaker 1: folks know real quick, we've had a bunch of meetings

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Speaker 1: and it's gonna be wall to wall coverage. Just get

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Speaker 1: ready like we've like we've done in the past. Jeff Kavanaugh,

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Speaker 1: Kevin Turner will join us as well. We're gonna be

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Speaker 1: doing some simulcasting with one oh five three the Fan,

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Speaker 1: our radio partner, official radio partner, the Dallas Cowboys, So

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Speaker 1: we'll be doing that. We'll all be there'll be all

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Speaker 1: kinds of ways that you can grab us for the draft,

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Speaker 1: but we're going to cover all the picks. Dane will

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Speaker 1: tell you something about mystery irrelevant. I guarantee you we'll

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Speaker 1: have a scouting reporter, A mystery irrelevant. That's what I

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Speaker 1: would look forward to every year. The show today is

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Speaker 1: gonna be We're gonna talk about Pro Days a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Had another injury in Pro Days. You know, I'm getting

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Speaker 1: a little tired of the injured, the top players getting injured. Now,

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Speaker 1: these Pro Days never seemed like that ever happened when

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Speaker 1: I was in scouting, right, never seemed like you know,

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Speaker 1: you went and worked guys out. You know, we had

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Speaker 1: guys work out the combine. But you know what we

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Speaker 1: have now that we didn't have back then, the individual

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Speaker 1: workout teams going back in and working guys out. That's

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Speaker 1: turning into something different. Now It's hard to get a

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Speaker 1: gauge of who really likes who unless you figure out listen.

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Speaker 1: And that's the great thing about Twitter though. You know

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Speaker 1: these players will talk. Yeah, I've gotta gotta be the

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Speaker 1: cowboys gonna meet with you know. That's that's something good.

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Speaker 1: But it's unfortunate. We did have another injury in the

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Speaker 1: Pro Days and uh Fabin Moreau, you sell a corner, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: especially the bench press, like yeah, come on, and he

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Speaker 1: to know more about Moreau's injury, Like Sidney Jones is

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Speaker 1: get used to it. Now. McKinley's gonna be a das

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Speaker 1: me the stash players. No, I didn't say that third

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Speaker 1: There's no way he'll get acclimated in time. Second on

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Speaker 1: you might be feeling pretty good if McKinley's on this team. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't hate it. I would not hate it. He's

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Speaker 1: it's not an injury that should limit him long term.

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Speaker 1: Too many drops? Can't calm down, calm downs, draft show.

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Speaker 1: does not smile. We've talked about that a bunch on

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Speaker 1: this show, that history does not smile on the tall safety. No,

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Speaker 1: there are examples of working out, but for the most part,

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Speaker 1: you're right. If the draft was hell December thirty, first,

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Speaker 1: Obie probably goes mid to late third round. Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's exactly where the tape shows, right. So now that

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Speaker 1: the pro day, he's got a bunch of private workouts

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Speaker 1: the first round because of the athlete that he is

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Speaker 1: and the way he tested. And I get it, But

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Speaker 1: his flaws on tape, I'm not sure are as correctable

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Speaker 1: because his issues to me are as just his mental trigger,

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Speaker 1: his mental process. He takes him a tick a half

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Speaker 1: and by that time he's either out of position to

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Speaker 1: make a play where he misses it. So I like

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Speaker 1: So Ryan had a good question for our previous topic.

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Speaker 1: He's saying at twenty eight, he gave us a list

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Speaker 1: of injured players. He said, Fabian Moreau, Tack McKinley, he said,

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Speaker 1: John Ross, But I wonder if he meant Sidney Jones.

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Speaker 1: So I'm just gonna say both. But either way, let's

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Speaker 1: say those four players in terms of value and how

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Speaker 1: you feel about their injury problems. What do he liked most? Like?

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Speaker 1: John Ross isn't is healthy now, but he has injury concerns,

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Speaker 1: lingers injury history already and he just had surgery on

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Speaker 1: a ship. Yeah, so I mean each one of them

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Speaker 1: you could pull holes medical holes. So I mean, do

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Speaker 1: you just go with the best player on your board

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Speaker 1: at that point? Yeah, I'm trying to think of who who?

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Speaker 1: Who is not? I can't. I need players. I keep

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Speaker 1: arguing that. I keep wanting guys. I need guys to play.

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Speaker 1: To me, Ross the best player of that group. Ross

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Speaker 1: would be the best player of that group. But with

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Speaker 1: Terrence Williams back, Yeah, I don't. I'm not sure that

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Speaker 1: you can because you have your top three receivers and

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Speaker 1: so you know, where's this guy gonna play? Um and

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Speaker 1: he's got injury issues, it's fair, but he is an

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Speaker 1: explosive player, yeah player, you know, four wide receiver sets.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to figure it out. You know, I'm not

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Speaker 1: I'm not married. I'm not. I mean, I know it

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Speaker 1: says four years on Terence Williams, But if Ross gives

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Speaker 1: me an explosive player, I'm I'm putting him ahead of

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Speaker 1: Terrence Williams. So Terrence Williams is gonna sit on the bench,

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Speaker 1: maybe your third or so. I mean, you could sub

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Speaker 1: sub aim in nine million to your number four receiver.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm just I'm just trying to figure out

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Speaker 1: a way. I am not married. I'm not married to

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Speaker 1: the guy I don't know, and you shouldn't be. And

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Speaker 1: if I could get a more explosive player on the field,

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Speaker 1: I could stretch the field that helped Dez Bryant. Terence.

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Speaker 1: I've seen what Terence would do. I love Terrence, I

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Speaker 1: have I have you know Terence. I love the player,

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Speaker 1: I love the fact he blocks, I love all that

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Speaker 1: about him. But I'm not sit there and saying I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna sacrifice one of the most explosive players in the draft.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I get what you're saying, but the offense

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Speaker 1: is it's fine, it's so, it's ready to go today.

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Speaker 1: I don't. I can't ignore a position of need and

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Speaker 1: a player of similar value just because I mean, you know,

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Speaker 1: I know, I'm just trying to I was trying to

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Speaker 1: answer his question about what would I do was sit

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Speaker 1: with what would I do with Ross's I play him,

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Speaker 1: It's not. I just don't think that's great roster management.

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Speaker 1: Okay with then eliminate him. You're not gonna have Sidney Jones.

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Speaker 1: I would draft him a row because it's the most

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Speaker 1: pressing need on the roster and it's an injury that

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Speaker 1: he should be able to bounce back from relatively quickly.

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Speaker 1: More worried if you're the Cowboys about your corner play

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Speaker 1: or defensive ent. Probably corner just because of of who's playing. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean just the bodies and not in the depth chart.

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Speaker 1: I'm not trying to tell you that the defensive ends

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Speaker 1: on this roster are all pros, but you could play

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Speaker 1: a game with them, right and I don't. Right now,

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Speaker 1: I worry about getting through games with the cornerbacks on

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Speaker 1: with those names, though, I think i'd go Tach McKinley.

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Speaker 1: I think i'd go with the player who is top

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Speaker 1: on my board, and whether or not he's ready for

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Speaker 1: the season opener, I think I feel pretty good that

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Speaker 1: he's on my team starting in October, so I had

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Speaker 1: the right ends of the guys I think are right ends.

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Speaker 1: I know you hate when we talk about left and

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Speaker 1: right ends. I do, but it's okay. Garrett was my

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Speaker 1: first right end. McKinley was my second right end. There

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Speaker 1: you go. Cornerbacks Lattimore, Jones, Moreau, those were my three though.

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Speaker 1: So that's what I'm saying. McKinley Moreau on your overall board,

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Speaker 1: would have to go with McKinley over Moreau, Okay, I would.

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Speaker 1: I don't hate that, like, I mean, I know I

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Speaker 1: kill them, but they're both first round players. Yeah, so

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Speaker 1: I mean you know that that's that's the thing. I

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Speaker 1: but I understand what you're saying about the corner thing.

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Speaker 1: I wonder if how they will stack their board. They

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Speaker 1: need both. But again, remember how deep this corner class is. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, when you feel good about pick sixty getting

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Speaker 1: a corner there, even in the third round, you know,

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Speaker 1: I think that there's some comfort level there knowing that

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Speaker 1: you you can get a corner later on. Are you

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Speaker 1: comfortable with taking Morow at twenty eight if you're the Cowboys,

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Speaker 1: as long as the this recent news about his torn

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Speaker 1: peck and the surgery, as long as you know the

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Speaker 1: doctors signed off on it, and say listen, at some

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Speaker 1: point during training camp, he will rejoin the team and

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Speaker 1: be one hundred percent, then yes, I'm comfortable with that,

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Speaker 1: agreed McKinley. Yeah, I'm they're totally okay. I didn't ask

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Speaker 1: you about McKinley because I think you're okay with McKinley.

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Speaker 1: I am, it's it's and listen, he's not a perfect

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Speaker 1: player on the field either. He we're talking twenty eight, right, No,

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Speaker 1: I know, I'm saying like, if we're picking at four,

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Speaker 1: we're not talking about any of these cats. Yeah, right,

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Speaker 1: Tach McKinley had had the four or five nine forty

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Speaker 1: yard dash, great ten yards split. Sure, his three cone

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Speaker 1: was terrible and that was surprising, right about. His shuttles

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Speaker 1: weren't great. And so this is a player who is

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Speaker 1: still relatively raw as a pass rusher. I mean he is.

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Speaker 1: Motors did a nice job. I went back and watch

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Speaker 1: Bowls play against him. Bolls did a nice job the

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Speaker 1: Utah at tackle. He got him frustrated. He did. McKinley is,

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Speaker 1: he's extremely relentless. The motor is lit. But sid yeah,

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Speaker 1: he does have some you know, he's not a perfect

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Speaker 1: player either, So there are some questions there. But that's

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Speaker 1: why I think he could be available for you at

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Speaker 1: twenty eight, and at twenty eight, I think that's the

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Speaker 1: good value at that point. I agree, and I wouldn't

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Speaker 1: have a problem taking either one of those guys I

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Speaker 1: just listed. You know, Garrett McKinley, you know, I see

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Speaker 1: him in the same got him ahead of Lawson, you know,

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Speaker 1: I mean, and I like Lawson, And in my mind

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Speaker 1: when we started this journey, I'm thinking Lawson's our guy

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Speaker 1: at twenty eight, because I'm not thinking McKinley is gonna

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Speaker 1: be there now, not thinking now, I'm thinking there's gonna

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Speaker 1: be a quality player there at twenty eight. Agree, and

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Speaker 1: at a position they need. I really think it's going

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Speaker 1: to be a pass rusher or a corner. I just

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Speaker 1: have this feeling safety. Maybe throw that in there. Actually, Okay,

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Speaker 1: I love good segues. Thank you, Brian. I know, like

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Speaker 1: I don't want to talk about the radio professional. I

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Speaker 1: feel like we need to talk about this because I

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Speaker 1: hear about this guy more than anybody else. And I

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Speaker 1: don't need y'all to tell me that you think he

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Speaker 1: can play running back. We don't need to go there.

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Speaker 1: But Cowboy fans want to know about Jabrill Peppers. Is

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Speaker 1: there a case for him at twenty eight to do

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Speaker 1: something on this team. What do you think about him? Etc. Etc.

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Speaker 1: If you're a Cowboy fan, here's your wild card. Get

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Speaker 1: ready for this one. Greg Jackson is now on the staff.

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Speaker 1: Greg Jackson was Greg Jackson was with him at Michigan.

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Speaker 1: Greg Jackson will be able to tell them the scouts

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Speaker 1: everything that he can and cannot do, maybe all the

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Speaker 1: things you don't see on film. But my old teammate

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Speaker 1: from LSU is a safety's coach here, and trust me,

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Speaker 1: I'm going to saddle up to him when I see

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Speaker 1: him in this cafeteria and ask him, because you got

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Speaker 1: to figure this out. I think the guy could play

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Speaker 1: running back. Dane thinks he could play strong safety. He's

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Speaker 1: a hell of a football player, no doubt about that.

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Speaker 1: But what do you do? I mean, it's the argument

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Speaker 1: he just made for Ross. What do you do? Where

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Speaker 1: do you play him? How do you work him? What

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Speaker 1: are all the things you could do with this? Let

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Speaker 1: me throw this at you, and I use this as

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Speaker 1: an example for Buddha Baker, and I think it makes

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Speaker 1: a lot of sense. Given the I would rather have

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Speaker 1: Buddha Baker fair enough, and I think, yeah, I think

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Speaker 1: both of y'all have said that before, but you'd think

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Speaker 1: about Byron Jones. He did not have a clearly defined

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Speaker 1: role when he was drafted by this team right away.

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Speaker 1: Would you be willing to spend the twenty eighth pick

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Speaker 1: on a guy like Jabrill Peppers? Keep Jeff Heath as

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Speaker 1: you're starting strong safety and just let him be a

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Speaker 1: free range whatever guy. And I mean any role in dimeback, nickelback,

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Speaker 1: whatever it is he can do. I mean you're basically

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Speaker 1: drafting a role player in the first round. Is that feasible? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: At twenty eight, I'm willing to roll the dice there

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Speaker 1: for Jibrol Peppers. His struggles in coverage, you know we've

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Speaker 1: talked about that's so well said. I mean he's an

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Speaker 1: elite athlete, he really is, yes, but that doesn't always

630
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Speaker 1: translate to understanding what it takes to be an elite

631
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 1: cover guy. And you know, watching him on tape, tight

632
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:38,200
Speaker 1: ends were able to gain separation from him. I mean,

633
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 1: it's just he's not He needs a lot of work

634
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:43,960
Speaker 1: in coverage and I think he'll get there. And talked

635
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 1: about this before, but how you know stretched out he

636
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:52,120
Speaker 1: wasn't Michigan because he was on offense. There was not

637
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 1: just like five plays for him on offense. He had

638
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:57,760
Speaker 1: to know the entire playbook right, especially once they're starting

639
00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 1: quarterback went down. His role grew little bit on special team,

640
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 1: so he was in all these meetings during the week,

641
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 1: and I don't think he fully had the chance. And

642
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:10,400
Speaker 1: he was. He was a corner when he first arrived

643
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:14,800
Speaker 1: at Michigan, played a lot, linebacker, played nickel. He wasn't

644
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:18,120
Speaker 1: allowed to focus on one set of responsibilities and you know,

645
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 1: do those things and develop at that one position once

646
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 1: he gets to the NFL. That's why I'm almost kind

647
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:26,959
Speaker 1: of against him being that free range guy. I want him.

648
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:29,920
Speaker 1: Give him one set of responsibilities. Let him do one thing,

649
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:32,640
Speaker 1: and he'll get better in coverage we know we can

650
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 1: do as an athlete. Just let him run. I think

651
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:37,840
Speaker 1: as a strong safety at twenty eight, he should be

652
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:41,720
Speaker 1: in the conversation quick okay, quickly, y'all expect him to

653
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 1: be there at twenty eight. No, I think he'll go earlier. Brian.

654
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:49,560
Speaker 1: With the way the city, Yeah, I think somebody will

655
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 1: figure out what they're wanted. I think somebody will have,

656
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:53,280
Speaker 1: like Dane says, I think he again he said it

657
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:55,640
Speaker 1: very well. Someone will come with a plan. Okay, I

658
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 1: don't think he'll be there. Michael wants to know we

659
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:01,600
Speaker 1: talk touched. I'll tell you why can. It's gonna sound

660
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:05,960
Speaker 1: really stupid, real real quick. Somebody will like some some

661
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 1: general manager has an ego that when you take a

662
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 1: guy like that, you look smart. Yeah, you know you're

663
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:15,920
Speaker 1: the you're the smartest guy in the room. I know

664
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:18,880
Speaker 1: a lot of these general managers, and some will say

665
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:21,440
Speaker 1: everybody wants that first pick to be the one that,

666
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 1: like everybody's buzzing about. Yeah, that that stops down draft

667
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:27,880
Speaker 1: night when that one happens. Yeah. Well, remember Keyan O'Neill

668
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:31,440
Speaker 1: went Top twenty last, and Keyan O'Neill has his coverage issues.

669
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:33,440
Speaker 1: You know, he was more of a strong safety, a

670
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 1: bully as oh he's but yeah, physical tough guy. Yeah.

671
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 1: So you know, Peppers is a much better athlete, not

672
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 1: probably not as polished or proven as Keyan O'Neill was,

673
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 1: but for those same reasons, Jebrol Peppers I think will

674
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:50,279
Speaker 1: end up some more top twenty five. Yeah, but I'm

675
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 1: just saying it's it sounds crazy, but some some general manager, Yeah,

676
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 1: let's let's look smart, We'll be the smart guys here.

677
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:00,319
Speaker 1: That sounds like, I mean instead of it's stead of

678
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:03,399
Speaker 1: evaluating him as what are you gonna do with him?

679
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:06,440
Speaker 1: But if you draft this guy, you better have a plan.

680
00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 1: You better have a plan at what you want to

681
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:10,759
Speaker 1: do with it for his sake, I hope they do. Yep,

682
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 1: Michael wants to know. And when you touched on this

683
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:16,920
Speaker 1: with McKinley, I'll throw Charles Harris out there as a

684
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:21,759
Speaker 1: guy that didn't impress much with his workouts. Does that

685
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 1: how much does that concern you? You know? I mean,

686
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 1: and you trust the tape all that, But with these

687
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:28,839
Speaker 1: guys that are kind of in that range, how much

688
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 1: does you know that that poor testing or lack of

689
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:35,200
Speaker 1: elite athleticism, how much does that bother you compared to

690
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:38,440
Speaker 1: their resume on tape? I mean it has to to

691
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 1: a certain extent. You know, it's not going to drop

692
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:44,399
Speaker 1: him down your board. It's not going to. But at

693
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 1: some point, I mean you have to look at it

694
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 1: and say, okay, let's watch the tape and figure out, Okay,

695
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:52,239
Speaker 1: is he tightened his hips? Uh? What's his ankle flection? Like?

696
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 1: Can he really you know, shave the corner? With the

697
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:59,920
Speaker 1: flexibility that you want and as long as the tape

698
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 1: to you what you need to see, I think you're okay,

699
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 1: more so than the numbers, but ideally you want the

700
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:08,360
Speaker 1: numbers to match up, and for some of these guys

701
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 1: just that wasn't the case. Yeah, he looked like a

702
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:15,280
Speaker 1: different player working out than the one you see on tape.

703
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:17,400
Speaker 1: And I'm just reading the numbers right now from the

704
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:21,440
Speaker 1: combine and these are the actually the numbers from the floor,

705
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:24,960
Speaker 1: from the actual timing at the you know, four seven

706
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:28,440
Speaker 1: nine four eight zero second one four eight seven four

707
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 1: eight one. Aren't you? Aren't you kind of boxed into

708
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:34,879
Speaker 1: that though, when you're picking twenty eighth, I mean, I'm

709
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:38,000
Speaker 1: not expecting physical freaks to be there at twenty eight,

710
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:40,399
Speaker 1: at least not the upper echelon type guys. And we're

711
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 1: talking about some pretty good players though, Yeah, with McKinley

712
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 1: and guys like that, you know, Moreau especially, Yeah, I

713
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 1: think this workout at Missouri is going to be really

714
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:51,719
Speaker 1: important for him to say happen, just to have a

715
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 1: better time, maybe a better twenty shuttle. Because you do

716
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 1: watch the tape. The tape is you could see him Ben,

717
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:00,200
Speaker 1: You could see him getting around the corner. You can

718
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:03,799
Speaker 1: see first step quickness. You know that surprises me because

719
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:07,440
Speaker 1: then again you talk about the kid from Kansas States,

720
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:11,879
Speaker 1: Jordan Willis. Jordan Willis does his three cone is like

721
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:15,359
Speaker 1: through the roof, and you're saying, anybody's like, wait a minute,

722
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:18,600
Speaker 1: he didn't play that way. So sometimes you get fooled

723
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:22,440
Speaker 1: if did they train but to meet the tape. The

724
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:25,719
Speaker 1: thing with Harris will be the tape. And I hope

725
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:27,360
Speaker 1: he has a better forty today and I hope he

726
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:29,320
Speaker 1: has a better three cone in a better twenty shuttle.

727
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:31,760
Speaker 1: And what I think is working in Charles Harris's favor

728
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 1: is during the positional workouts at the combine, he looked

729
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:36,799
Speaker 1: really good. Yeah, um, you know, the forty and the

730
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:40,279
Speaker 1: agility testing all that wasn't great, it was average. But

731
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:42,960
Speaker 1: during the positional drills I thought he really he really

732
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:45,919
Speaker 1: looked good and helped himself in that regard. I've got

733
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:49,360
Speaker 1: a really awesome outside the box question from someone named

734
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 1: I need money. So we all so do I we

735
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:56,920
Speaker 1: talk about the potential of a need at tackle. Yeah,

736
00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:00,279
Speaker 1: could Rico Gathers play tackle so that you don't have

737
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:04,839
Speaker 1: to worry about drafting one interesting because they used him

738
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:06,840
Speaker 1: on the scout team last year and I as a

739
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:11,719
Speaker 1: guy that could that was a fill in tackle. But

740
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:17,319
Speaker 1: with the situation also too at tight end, do you

741
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:20,319
Speaker 1: worry about do you say, well, now we've kind of

742
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:23,879
Speaker 1: spent this year trying to develop him as a as

743
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:25,440
Speaker 1: a maybe the last thing you want to do is

744
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:27,279
Speaker 1: give him a new duty. Yeah? Why do I want it?

745
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 1: Why do I want to spend three hundred and sixty

746
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:31,960
Speaker 1: five more days trying to make him a tackle? Yeah?

747
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:34,760
Speaker 1: But it's you know what, great question though? I actually,

748
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 1: I mean I kind of problem solved. I like outside

749
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 1: the box thinking that's great. Is there anybody you would

750
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:42,400
Speaker 1: like him in the better than in the fourth or

751
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:44,920
Speaker 1: fifth round? And we've talked about this tackle class not

752
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 1: being great as a tackle. As a tackle, I mean,

753
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 1: if you were to project him as a tackle, would

754
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:55,239
Speaker 1: you like him better than say Banner Sharp? I don't.

755
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:58,400
Speaker 1: I can't even. I would not take him over anyone

756
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:00,520
Speaker 1: in this in this I wouldn't draft as a tackle

757
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 1: if you Okay, So if it's say, say we took

758
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:05,520
Speaker 1: him and put him in this draft class, I would not.

759
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:07,399
Speaker 1: I would not. I wouldn't draft him as a tackle.

760
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:10,120
Speaker 1: I've never seen him go through tackle drills. Does he

761
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:12,200
Speaker 1: have can he sustain the weight? You know, what's his

762
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 1: contact I've never seen him play tied in either, but

763
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:16,719
Speaker 1: we could. We saw the drills, you know, we saw

764
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 1: him him in the preseason and whatever. We saw him

765
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 1: catch the ball during drills at this time last year.

766
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 1: Do we know about Rico Gathers. We knew about him

767
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:28,160
Speaker 1: as a potential guy that we saw him work at workouts. Yeah,

768
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:30,200
Speaker 1: I mean we saw him catch the ball, we saw

769
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:32,080
Speaker 1: him move around, we saw him run some rounds. We

770
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 1: could tell you he's athletic. But playing tackle is more

771
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:39,800
Speaker 1: about technique. And I mean size is great, length is great.

772
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 1: It's way more about the technical skill at the position.

773
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:46,520
Speaker 1: And if you don't have that, then you're gonna get

774
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:48,480
Speaker 1: eaten up by the pass rushers in this league. And

775
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 1: so this Rico Gathers is not helping you this year.

776
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:54,279
Speaker 1: You could start right now and he's not gonna help

777
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:59,160
Speaker 1: you this year at tackle. He's not probably fair, No,

778
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:02,040
Speaker 1: I like like when people think like that, I mean

779
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:04,600
Speaker 1: because he has the size. Sure, maybe for if you're

780
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:07,240
Speaker 1: planning for chas and eighteen, Yeah, maybe, but you're planning

781
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:09,600
Speaker 1: for twenty seventeen. You've done not gonna help made this

782
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:13,319
Speaker 1: Germany journey to be a tight end. Yeah, that's what

783
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:15,759
Speaker 1: your hope is. You hope he makes the team is

784
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:17,960
Speaker 1: on the fifty three is a tied end. Okay, Well,

785
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 1: let's say that they really like Adam Sheheen at pick

786
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:24,880
Speaker 1: sixty and that's the direction they go. Then all of

787
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:28,279
Speaker 1: a sudden Heshen you've seen him play. Yeah, well, and

788
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:30,759
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden Rico Gallers, let's bulk him

789
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:34,239
Speaker 1: up needed sixty. If he's there, I don't know if

790
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:36,200
Speaker 1: he'll be there. Dane finds a way to talk about

791
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:38,440
Speaker 1: Shaheen on every episode, and you know what, those other

792
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:41,560
Speaker 1: guy cowboys, they showed interest. But also the show is

793
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:44,600
Speaker 1: the Chicago Bears, the Saints, the Steelers, Oakland and Detroit.

794
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 1: That's why he might not be there at sixty. There's

795
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:50,400
Speaker 1: a very possible scenario where he's gone somewhere in the

796
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:52,399
Speaker 1: top five. Watch his face light up on day two

797
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:56,120
Speaker 1: when that all happens. I told you play that podcast again.

798
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:58,239
Speaker 1: Bane's gonna go. You got one more question for us,

799
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:03,000
Speaker 1: Dave Um Yet I got a Senior Bowl question from

800
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:08,399
Speaker 1: Mark cam Sutton and russellll Douglas. One I think needs

801
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:12,160
Speaker 1: to play safety. That would be Sutton Sutton. Yeah, because

802
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:14,319
Speaker 1: I watched him. You talk about watching somebody I know.

803
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:17,279
Speaker 1: I keep bringing this up about Sutton. He looked far

804
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 1: more comfortable play in safety than he did playing corner,

805
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 1: and he actually had to cover Oj Howard and he

806
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:27,600
Speaker 1: looked good doing it, like he was not intimidated having

807
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:31,919
Speaker 1: to take Oj Howard and carry that size. I think

808
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:35,359
Speaker 1: that there's several guys in this draft, King being the

809
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 1: top of the corner that could be the safety guy.

810
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:42,040
Speaker 1: And if you're playing with these six defensive backs and

811
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:44,240
Speaker 1: you've got a guy that could play safety, play corner,

812
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:49,400
Speaker 1: Cowboys covers for safeties A lot ton, Yeah, a ton Yeah.

813
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:52,680
Speaker 1: I'm not so much though on Douglas. I like Douglas

814
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 1: at the Senior Bowl, Like he was better at the

815
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:57,279
Speaker 1: Senior Bowl than he was on tape. There's another one

816
00:41:57,280 --> 00:41:58,799
Speaker 1: of those guys. I don't know. I didn't see. I'm

817
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:00,239
Speaker 1: not a big fan of either of those guys. I

818
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:02,239
Speaker 1: think there's a sudden. Yeah, I'm trying to find a

819
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:04,880
Speaker 1: spot for Sudden. I'm not saying these guys are day

820
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:07,600
Speaker 1: are day you know, I'm looking at my cornerback rankings,

821
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 1: neither or in my top fourteen. These are day three picks. Yeah, yeah, yeah, well,

822
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:15,759
Speaker 1: and I'm Douglas might go even sooner than that with

823
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 1: that size. Yeah. I have Sudden in the fifth and

824
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 1: I had Douglas in the fourth. Okay, so yeah, we're

825
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:24,359
Speaker 1: on the same page. Then. I just think that might

826
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:25,880
Speaker 1: go a little bit earlier than that. Yeah, I think

827
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 1: there will be teams that like them more than we do. Okay,

828
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:31,279
Speaker 1: it only takes one. It takes one. Thanks everybody out

829
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 1: there for twenty on the twenty. When we come back,

830
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:36,640
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905
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:25,480
Speaker 1: it's okay, but as usual, the goal here, I'm trying

906
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 1: to find us players that we either haven't even mentioned

907
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:31,480
Speaker 1: or at least haven't really discussed in detail. With that

908
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:36,440
Speaker 1: in mind, guys, tell me more about Middle Tennessee cornerback

909
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:42,279
Speaker 1: Jeremy Koutrare. Good name, and I'm glad you said his

910
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:46,440
Speaker 1: name correctly. I'm a little biased. He was supposed to

911
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:49,279
Speaker 1: be an LSU guy, so twice. Yeah, I knew who

912
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:53,640
Speaker 1: he was before the draft cycle started. It's a player

913
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:55,799
Speaker 1: who yeah, like like David said, it supposed to an

914
00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:58,280
Speaker 1: LSU guy out of high school and then after Juco

915
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:02,160
Speaker 1: just didn't have the grades, couldn't qualify academically. So he

916
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:06,600
Speaker 1: find winds his winds up at Middle Tennessee and he's

917
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:11,799
Speaker 1: that tall, lean, speedy corner who can move pretty well.

918
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 1: The big question is weight he was in the mid

919
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:16,920
Speaker 1: one sixties. Yeah, one hundred and seventy pounds. Yeah, well

920
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:18,799
Speaker 1: he was even lower than that at the pro day.

921
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:22,279
Speaker 1: I mean, he's very, very lean, but he's got kind

922
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 1: of it's his backstory is just all over the place,

923
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:27,800
Speaker 1: like even right now, and he's living on people's couches

924
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:30,840
Speaker 1: right uh, and so he doesn't have that nutrition program

925
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:33,880
Speaker 1: right now that's going to help him maintain that weight. Surprise,

926
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:36,480
Speaker 1: he wasn't at the combine. He's a draftable player, uh,

927
00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:39,600
Speaker 1: you know somewhere I think the fourth fifth round. If

928
00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:43,120
Speaker 1: a team invested in him gets that weight up, I

929
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:45,319
Speaker 1: think that they're gonna have themselves a player, a guy

930
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:47,480
Speaker 1: who can start in this league, similar to Robinson who

931
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:50,040
Speaker 1: the forty nine ers to correct that kind of lean guy.

932
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:52,960
Speaker 1: It is the LSU connection there, But yeah, I think

933
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:56,000
Speaker 1: that the players. He watched him on tape last night

934
00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:59,239
Speaker 1: a little bit, and he's got the ability to cover.

935
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:01,880
Speaker 1: There's no doubt about that length. The link that the

936
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:04,879
Speaker 1: tackling is a little bit, you know, but a lot

937
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:09,040
Speaker 1: of off coverage though, a lot of drop drop, drop

938
00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:10,960
Speaker 1: and then drive that kind of thing. But when he

939
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:13,560
Speaker 1: gets up on somebody, he can turn, he can mirror,

940
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:16,120
Speaker 1: he can go. I do like the player. I think

941
00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:19,360
Speaker 1: you're absolutely right. Someone needs to make the investment on

942
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:22,560
Speaker 1: him and try and put some weight on him one

943
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:25,040
Speaker 1: hundred and seventy pounds. That will be difficult, six one,

944
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:28,200
Speaker 1: one seventy. I think he's talking talking to his coach.

945
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Speaker 1: I couldn't get his coaches say a negative word about

946
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Speaker 1: he just raved. He said it's the best player he's

947
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Speaker 1: ever coached. Yeah. Wow, good program to at Middle Tennessee. Yeah,

948
00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:38,000
Speaker 1: and they had the top combine stumble last year with

949
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:40,279
Speaker 1: buyer to safety went to Tennessee and with third or

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00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:43,200
Speaker 1: fourth rounds, right, fourth, fifth round, that's what we think.

951
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:45,320
Speaker 1: I would probably take him higher, but in terms of

952
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:47,839
Speaker 1: value where he's gonna end up, I think fourth, fifth round. Yeah?

953
00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:50,480
Speaker 1: Like it? All right? This guy intrigues the hell out

954
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Speaker 1: of me. And so I want you to tell me

955
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:58,160
Speaker 1: more about Miami running back Joe Yearby. I have you

956
00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:00,480
Speaker 1: watched yarb? Yeah? I did? Did you like him? Because

957
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:02,920
Speaker 1: I I wasn't. I like his explosive I like the quickness.

958
00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:05,800
Speaker 1: I think he's a four or four two guy. He's short,

959
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:08,880
Speaker 1: he's five eight and a half. But I like the

960
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:12,360
Speaker 1: explosiveness about the player. I don't know if he could finish,

961
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:15,520
Speaker 1: but I like his toughness. I thought he caught the

962
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:18,319
Speaker 1: ball well and I thought the vision was really really good.

963
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:20,680
Speaker 1: And I know he's a backup guy and that's probably

964
00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:22,279
Speaker 1: what he'll be in the league. He looks like a

965
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Speaker 1: stock of your dunbar. To me, he is. He's like

966
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:26,759
Speaker 1: a he's like a fire hydrant. He's like a little

967
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:29,839
Speaker 1: fire hydrant, that kind of stet. But you watch him run,

968
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:33,000
Speaker 1: you do see some finish with him, you know, And

969
00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:36,880
Speaker 1: I forgot who he was watching. It was, Uh, it

970
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:39,840
Speaker 1: might have been Georgia Tech. Linebacker's got even set up

971
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:43,160
Speaker 1: right in the I mean right in the crosshairs and

972
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:45,759
Speaker 1: it's it's left plant bomb out of the gate to

973
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:48,040
Speaker 1: the right. Guy falls out of the way. Now he's

974
00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:51,520
Speaker 1: up into the second level. So I like the explosiveness

975
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:55,239
Speaker 1: of the player, but I don't really know. Is he

976
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:57,600
Speaker 1: going to be the every down guy? Probably not, but

977
00:49:57,719 --> 00:50:00,320
Speaker 1: that's not what I'm looking for. No, but he It

978
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:03,200
Speaker 1: is funny him and Dalvin Cook teammates same backfield in

979
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:06,640
Speaker 1: high school, talk about, you know, trying to defending that backfield. Uh,

980
00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:08,640
Speaker 1: And it's funny because he has initially committed to Florida

981
00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:10,839
Speaker 1: State and then he switched in Miami. Then Dalvin Cook

982
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:12,759
Speaker 1: went from clumps In to Florida State. That was a

983
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:14,920
Speaker 1: whole big thing with your bet. So I agree with

984
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:17,680
Speaker 1: everything you can said except one thing, and that's the vision. Yeah.

985
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:20,000
Speaker 1: I didn't see the vision when you When I watched

986
00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:22,560
Speaker 1: him on tape, it was he had vision, but his

987
00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:26,160
Speaker 1: tunnel vision, and he was missing open holes here left right.

988
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:30,040
Speaker 1: He he he's very patient and he follows his blocks,

989
00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:33,160
Speaker 1: but almost to a fault because he's following his blocks

990
00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:35,680
Speaker 1: even when there's an open hole developing over here, he

991
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:38,239
Speaker 1: just didn't sense it. And so is there a place

992
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:40,560
Speaker 1: in the NFL possibly for a guy like that who

993
00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:42,719
Speaker 1: is going to follow the play design and he does

994
00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:44,480
Speaker 1: have the toughness, he does have a little bit of

995
00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:48,120
Speaker 1: burst to him. Sure, absolutely, But I do question the vision.

996
00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:51,040
Speaker 1: It's just an instinctive feel. I don't see that. That's

997
00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:53,279
Speaker 1: why to me, he's more of a dime a dozen back,

998
00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:55,520
Speaker 1: you know, the guy that. Sure he might be able to,

999
00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:57,880
Speaker 1: you know, make a depth chart and help you out

1000
00:50:57,920 --> 00:50:59,840
Speaker 1: a little bit, but I don't think he's any more special.

1001
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:02,120
Speaker 1: Veghables might not help him. If you're looking for a

1002
00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:05,320
Speaker 1: guy at the end of the draft, we're just drafted

1003
00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:07,880
Speaker 1: traits sounds it sounds like Dane's talking about a priority

1004
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:09,640
Speaker 1: free agent here. I have him greater as a priority

1005
00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:12,920
Speaker 1: for I had him in the sixth round. That's what

1006
00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:15,040
Speaker 1: I want though that and that's why he's intriguing to men.

1007
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:16,480
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to show him some tape of him

1008
00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:18,920
Speaker 1: with the vision. This is a guy we actually have

1009
00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:24,120
Speaker 1: talked about, but not in a while, and it's fitting

1010
00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:27,080
Speaker 1: because Michigan has their pro day tomorrow. Tell me a

1011
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:31,600
Speaker 1: little bit more about Chris Warmley, one of the highest

1012
00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:34,560
Speaker 1: floors I think of this draft. You just know who

1013
00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:36,960
Speaker 1: he is. He's not a great pass rusher, but he's

1014
00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:41,320
Speaker 1: he's big, he's stocky. He's going to give you snaps

1015
00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:44,480
Speaker 1: inside and outside. He's over three hundred pounds. Yeah, but

1016
00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:46,920
Speaker 1: I think he's more of a defensive end. But he's

1017
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:49,080
Speaker 1: just not a pass rusher. He's your base end who

1018
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:53,400
Speaker 1: is gonna, you know, hold the edge, keep contain and

1019
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:55,759
Speaker 1: be a factor versus the run. He can also help

1020
00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:58,120
Speaker 1: you out kick inside on on third down, you bring

1021
00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:01,280
Speaker 1: an extra pass rusher on into the field, so whether

1022
00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:02,920
Speaker 1: it's a three four or four three. I think he's

1023
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:06,160
Speaker 1: a bass end, a solid Day two pick. Nothing wow

1024
00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:08,759
Speaker 1: or flashy about him, just a solid player. Yeah. The

1025
00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:10,719
Speaker 1: thing about him, and I think he's a three four end.

1026
00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:13,759
Speaker 1: He reminds me very much what those Oregon kids that

1027
00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:17,400
Speaker 1: we watched the last couple of drafts. Yeah, Buck nor Armstead,

1028
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:20,160
Speaker 1: those guys that are better at playing as a three

1029
00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:24,880
Speaker 1: four defensive end. I think the guy. I like what

1030
00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:27,120
Speaker 1: Dane's saying about him. I thought he needed to get

1031
00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:29,359
Speaker 1: off blocks a little bit quicker and chase the ball.

1032
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:32,040
Speaker 1: I thought he was a good awareness though good player,

1033
00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:34,319
Speaker 1: like he could do some one gap stuff, even though

1034
00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:38,080
Speaker 1: you think he could be a three three four defensive

1035
00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:40,919
Speaker 1: end when you play two gap. But I just think,

1036
00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:43,400
Speaker 1: you know, if he plays as a four three player,

1037
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:46,080
Speaker 1: he's gonna have to play as a one technique because

1038
00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:49,040
Speaker 1: he doesn't have any pass rush ability. He really just doesn't.

1039
00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:51,520
Speaker 1: But he's just a good run player, is what I

1040
00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:53,680
Speaker 1: feel like. Where can I get him? Not that he

1041
00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:56,719
Speaker 1: sounds like the Cowboys would want him, but okay, see

1042
00:52:56,800 --> 00:52:58,800
Speaker 1: I kind of have a because I'm dealing with a

1043
00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:01,960
Speaker 1: four three team here. My team's a four three team.

1044
00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:03,839
Speaker 1: So I kind of had a comment, I have got

1045
00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:06,240
Speaker 1: a bump. I have a group of guys like Whys

1046
00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:10,480
Speaker 1: the Jones kid from North Carolina, Warmly, Those are my

1047
00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:14,480
Speaker 1: three four defensive end guys, so I really don't have

1048
00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:16,919
Speaker 1: them in the mix with And you can might even

1049
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:20,839
Speaker 1: talk about Charlton a little bit of that maybe being

1050
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:23,879
Speaker 1: a better three four defensive end guy. I don't want

1051
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:26,840
Speaker 1: to talk about Taco. I've got Warmly uh as a

1052
00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:30,560
Speaker 1: two three, So goill higher than me. This is a

1053
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:33,520
Speaker 1: This is a Dane Brugler special because I didn't even

1054
00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:35,960
Speaker 1: know that Bucknell had a FO three no pass Russia.

1055
00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:39,719
Speaker 1: What two three and no pass rush? Well, it's what

1056
00:53:39,840 --> 00:53:42,800
Speaker 1: he is. He's a he's a bass end who, okay,

1057
00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:44,799
Speaker 1: is gonna give you a lot of snaps and give

1058
00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:48,439
Speaker 1: me some position versatility. You're hijacking my segment. Sorry, you're

1059
00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:51,880
Speaker 1: at the Senior Bowl. It's been three months since the

1060
00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:54,880
Speaker 1: Senior Bowl. It's not it's not a bad a day

1061
00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:57,320
Speaker 1: to revisit from time to time. Tell me more about

1062
00:53:57,480 --> 00:54:00,840
Speaker 1: Julian Davenport, the offensive tackle out of buck Now, this

1063
00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:03,040
Speaker 1: isn't a great tackle class. We've talked about it. But

1064
00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:08,520
Speaker 1: if there is one developmental tackle that you've is that. Yeah,

1065
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:12,200
Speaker 1: you feel raw, shi, Yeah, but two to three years

1066
00:54:12,239 --> 00:54:14,080
Speaker 1: from now, you feel like you can grow into something.

1067
00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:19,600
Speaker 1: I think that's Davenport. Fourth round, you know, early day

1068
00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:23,800
Speaker 1: three somewhere is probably his landing spot. You know, obviously

1069
00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:27,160
Speaker 1: coming from the FCS level, didn't face top competition. You

1070
00:54:27,239 --> 00:54:29,560
Speaker 1: saw it at the Senior Bowl. Yeah, just very very raw,

1071
00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:33,560
Speaker 1: just who he is. But with those natural skills, you know,

1072
00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:37,120
Speaker 1: former basketball player. He has a long armed cat, he is,

1073
00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:39,120
Speaker 1: and he can move a little bit, he can move

1074
00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:43,920
Speaker 1: a lot. I think, yeah, he's not, you know, not

1075
00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:47,160
Speaker 1: the finisher that you want. But I think give him time.

1076
00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:50,320
Speaker 1: I think he can develop that technical skill. And hopefully

1077
00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:51,800
Speaker 1: you don't see him on the field this year and

1078
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:54,239
Speaker 1: for his sake, but if you, you know, draft him

1079
00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:57,480
Speaker 1: in the fourth round, maybe a sophomore year year, two

1080
00:54:57,560 --> 00:55:00,600
Speaker 1: year three, he can potentially give you meaningful snaps. Yeah.

1081
00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:03,120
Speaker 1: I saw a guy that to me, I liked watching

1082
00:55:03,239 --> 00:55:06,839
Speaker 1: him play because I felt like him getting away from

1083
00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:09,839
Speaker 1: the line. He had an understanding of how to play.

1084
00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:13,719
Speaker 1: But can he do everything? Like you said, the technical aspect,

1085
00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:18,040
Speaker 1: you know, the kicks, slide, hands, feet, working together, the

1086
00:55:18,239 --> 00:55:20,840
Speaker 1: length is all that is great. Like I said, he

1087
00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:24,080
Speaker 1: only did eighteen reps, you know, with with the two

1088
00:55:24,239 --> 00:55:26,960
Speaker 1: twenty five. Now, okay, Travis Frederick only did twenty one

1089
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:29,880
Speaker 1: I believe when he came in there yet exactly. So

1090
00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:33,000
Speaker 1: there's guys that it's about functional strength and about weight

1091
00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:35,440
Speaker 1: room strength. I don't think he has functional strength and

1092
00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:37,239
Speaker 1: I don't think he has weight room strength because you

1093
00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:40,520
Speaker 1: do see him get compressed some. But you know someone's

1094
00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:43,600
Speaker 1: gonna draft him and they're gonna, they're gonna they're gonna

1095
00:55:43,640 --> 00:55:46,160
Speaker 1: train him and get him because the feet and the

1096
00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:49,800
Speaker 1: athletic ability for somebody that's like six seven is and

1097
00:55:49,920 --> 00:55:52,719
Speaker 1: he's I think he's three hundred and eighteen pounds three

1098
00:55:53,320 --> 00:55:56,359
Speaker 1: right in that range and a half. Yeah, So that's

1099
00:55:56,400 --> 00:55:58,319
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I think that there's a guy there.

1100
00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:00,239
Speaker 1: There's a guy that if you want to develop up

1101
00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:02,759
Speaker 1: a guy, you know, maybe be your fifty third guy.

1102
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:05,000
Speaker 1: This is your cat. This is a great room to

1103
00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:07,239
Speaker 1: develop a tackle in eighty eighty seven and a half

1104
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:09,040
Speaker 1: in twinks me. I can't remember who tweeted this, but

1105
00:56:09,120 --> 00:56:11,759
Speaker 1: someone tweeted that he can change both mirrors when he's

1106
00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:15,960
Speaker 1: in the car with a wing fane. Sorry, ridiculous. Where

1107
00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:18,440
Speaker 1: are we talking? I think fourth round? Yeah, I had

1108
00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:20,960
Speaker 1: him more to five, sixth round. Love, I love this.

1109
00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:22,680
Speaker 1: I don't want to spend a premium pick, but I

1110
00:56:22,719 --> 00:56:24,279
Speaker 1: would do that. You don't have a five day, so

1111
00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:27,640
Speaker 1: get one of those real quick. Tell me more about

1112
00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:31,600
Speaker 1: Ohio linebacker Blair Brown. Like the player? You like the

1113
00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:36,680
Speaker 1: player speedy? Uh, he's not big. He is smaller, he's

1114
00:56:36,719 --> 00:56:40,520
Speaker 1: five eleven four maybe, but he doesn't play like it. No,

1115
00:56:41,360 --> 00:56:46,279
Speaker 1: remember watches that defensive in bash him. Yeah, he'shim, is

1116
00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:50,280
Speaker 1: a good player. But this Blair Brown, go ahead, remember

1117
00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:52,840
Speaker 1: last year talking about a MAC linebacker who was undersized,

1118
00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:56,319
Speaker 1: Jatavis Brown from Akron. Yeah, played well, ended up going

1119
00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:57,920
Speaker 1: in the fifth round, and yeah, I did play well

1120
00:56:57,960 --> 00:57:01,320
Speaker 1: for San Diego. He's not quite the athlete that Tavis

1121
00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:04,640
Speaker 1: Brown is, but similar. You know the type of mold

1122
00:57:04,680 --> 00:57:07,880
Speaker 1: where it's that MAC linebacker who's undersized, not getting the

1123
00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:11,560
Speaker 1: just due. But he's he's a player, he's gonna He's

1124
00:57:11,560 --> 00:57:14,400
Speaker 1: a magnet to the ball, the closing burst, outstanding a

1125
00:57:14,480 --> 00:57:16,800
Speaker 1: lot of range, and he's not afraid to hit you.

1126
00:57:17,080 --> 00:57:19,520
Speaker 1: Yeah he does night. He plays much bigger than he looks.

1127
00:57:19,560 --> 00:57:21,840
Speaker 1: This guy, you could say, watching him play on tape,

1128
00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:24,440
Speaker 1: you could tell he loves to play football because he

1129
00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:27,440
Speaker 1: is always around the ball. I mean he is. He's physically,

1130
00:57:27,440 --> 00:57:29,880
Speaker 1: I said, physically not the biggest guy. He's short, like

1131
00:57:29,920 --> 00:57:32,280
Speaker 1: I say, five to eleven four in that range. He's

1132
00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:35,280
Speaker 1: a sideline the sideline player, and he gets after. He

1133
00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:37,680
Speaker 1: could beat blockers to the ball. That's what I really

1134
00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:40,600
Speaker 1: liked about him. When you talk about the awareness, you

1135
00:57:40,680 --> 00:57:43,160
Speaker 1: see the play, you go get down, He'll make the

1136
00:57:43,240 --> 00:57:47,240
Speaker 1: tackle finish. I think that when you talk also about contact.

1137
00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:50,560
Speaker 1: Balance is another thing. When he hits, he's not all

1138
00:57:51,400 --> 00:57:55,080
Speaker 1: out of whack, he's square, he tackles, he wraps up. Yeah,

1139
00:57:55,600 --> 00:57:58,000
Speaker 1: Blarah Brown, where do you I put him in the

1140
00:57:58,040 --> 00:58:02,240
Speaker 1: fourth round? So I I like this player a lot,

1141
00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:04,919
Speaker 1: and and it's nice to know Mac. The MAC puts

1142
00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:07,240
Speaker 1: some good players in this league. Yeah, these are tough

1143
00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:09,520
Speaker 1: that you call it the bus league, the bus league

1144
00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:12,440
Speaker 1: because they drive everywhere to the games the NFL from

1145
00:58:12,440 --> 00:58:14,440
Speaker 1: the MAC. Yeah, this is what I'm looking for here.

1146
00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:16,920
Speaker 1: That's why I like this segment. Yeah, looking for good

1147
00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:19,200
Speaker 1: players that they don't have to spend a premium pick on.

1148
00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:22,040
Speaker 1: I guess that's what you're telling me about right now, Kit,

1149
00:58:22,200 --> 00:58:24,280
Speaker 1: before we get out here, is there one call available

1150
00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:26,520
Speaker 1: or is that? Do we miss that up? No callers

1151
00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:31,800
Speaker 1: right now? I know. I try, I try, but Kent

1152
00:58:31,880 --> 00:58:34,040
Speaker 1: does a great job. So he'll play the music and

1153
00:58:34,080 --> 00:58:36,080
Speaker 1: we'll get out of here. I want to thank everybody

1154
00:58:36,120 --> 00:58:38,080
Speaker 1: for being a part of this. Want to thank Dame Brugler.

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00:58:38,080 --> 00:58:40,200
Speaker 1: I want to thank you David Hellman. Want to especially

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00:58:40,240 --> 00:58:43,320
Speaker 1: thank Kate Garrison for always keeping us on air. I

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00:58:43,360 --> 00:58:47,200
Speaker 1: want to thank Derek Eagleton for his leadership, Kayler Stern

1158
00:58:47,280 --> 00:58:50,200
Speaker 1: for always putting our stuff out. We'll be back next week.

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Speaker 1: We will be back to to investigate and educate. Appreciate

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Speaker 1: you guys, take care. This has been a production of

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