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Speaker 1: dot com. I'm Mike Keith. The Titans held off the

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Speaker 1: Falcons twenty eight to twenty three, bringing their record to

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Speaker 1: three and four. I had a chance to sit down

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Speaker 1: with Mike Vrabel on Monday to discuss what happened against

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Speaker 1: the Falcons and what comes next as the Titans travel

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Speaker 1: to Pittsburgh on Thursday. Here's my conversation with Mike Vrabel

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Speaker 1: on the OTP. Mike, after the Baltimore game into the

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Speaker 1: bye week, you challenged the defensive line. Made it clear

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Speaker 1: you wanted to see more pressure on the quarterback. Overall,

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Speaker 1: the stats show they got it. Were you pleased with

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Speaker 1: the way they responded to your challenge?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I mean I think that they they

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Speaker 2: did try to attack and they try to get the

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Speaker 2: ball out, you know, use the move that that we were,

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Speaker 2: you know, what they feel like with their bread and

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Speaker 2: butter moves, and then tried to have some some compliments

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Speaker 2: off of it. I think that they they did do

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Speaker 2: a nice job overall of effecting a quarterback, and you know,

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Speaker 2: we were able to get one football off of him.

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Speaker 2: We batted a couple of passes. So again that's the

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Speaker 2: step in the right direction.

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Speaker 1: Coming off the field. At one point, tier Tart was

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Speaker 1: greeted by the head coach who told him good job

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Speaker 1: for something Tart had been missing from the last couple

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Speaker 1: of games. Did he add a punch or a bit

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Speaker 2: Well, I wouldn't put it all on ti air, but

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Speaker 2: it was good to have him back there. I think he,

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Speaker 2: you know, did some things inside that that helped us.

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Speaker 2: He stayed on his feet sometimes when they try to

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Speaker 2: cut him, and you know, again he can be disruptive

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Speaker 2: in there, and he has to understand how he has

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Speaker 2: to play and mix in the attacking you know, penetration

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Speaker 2: with playing with his hands and working down the line

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Speaker 2: of scrimmage to help us, you know when they run

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Speaker 1: So that was it was good to have him back.

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Speaker 1: Best performance of the year for Jeffrey Simmons.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think Jeffrey plays with great effort

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Speaker 2: and was able to affect the quarterback, and you know,

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Speaker 2: really helped us in the run game. It wasn't just

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Speaker 2: like he was looking to get sacks. And he helped

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Speaker 2: us down line scrimmage and and hustled and you know,

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Speaker 2: they they have a good scheme and you know.

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Speaker 3: Jeff was able to stay up.

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Speaker 2: They tried to cut him sometimes and you know he

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Speaker 2: saw him being very active throughout the football game.

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Speaker 1: Do you feel like Harold Landry is beginning to get

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Speaker 1: in more and more of a groove. Well, every week

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Speaker 2: You know, last last week was good, you know, and

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Speaker 2: I'm sure he would like to have the roughing back,

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Speaker 2: but you know, he factored and you know, he was

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Speaker 2: able to use the silent cadence to his advantage. So

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Speaker 2: all those things were very positive. And you know, every

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Speaker 2: week is different, but it was good to see some

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Speaker 1: A little hard to see what the roughing specifically was

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Speaker 2: Hit him in the neck with this with his hand

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Speaker 2: Terrell Edmonds and Eric Garrier get their opportunities. How did

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Speaker 2: I think he just has to get some more reps

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Speaker 2: settle down a little bit. There was some good plays

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Speaker 1: Looking at Will Levis and his performance as a as

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Speaker 1: a first time quarterback, obviously the statistics say very good things.

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Speaker 2: No, I mean, I think that we all have to

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Speaker 2: But there was you know, good command and you know,

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Speaker 1: It's always a challenge to get ready for a Thursday

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Speaker 1: night game. Is it an extra challenge in some ways

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Speaker 1: for Will Levis to get ready for a Thursday night game?

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Speaker 2: I mean, whoever, you know, whether it's Will, whether it's Ryan.

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Speaker 2: it like that, and you know, we're gonna play on

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Speaker 2: Sunday night, so we've got a few days here. But

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Speaker 2: we also have to put our minds into the fact

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Speaker 2: that today is this Thursday, and we've got to go work.

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Speaker 1: Estimation that if Hubbard is unable to go that Andre

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Speaker 1: Dillard will again play left tackle and Nicholas Pettifrere will

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Speaker 3: Well, we would have two choices.

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Speaker 3: But I would say that everybody that here needs to

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Speaker 1: Where you please with the way that Andre Dillard responded

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Speaker 3: That's what everybody else does.

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Speaker 1: What did you do well in the run game against

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Speaker 2: I think there wasn't a ton of negative yardage runs.

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Speaker 2: We were close on a few. You know, had some

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Speaker 2: seven eight nine yard runs that were really good. We

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Speaker 2: You know, Taj did a heck of a job on

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Speaker 2: there were, you know, some some good, very efficient runs

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Speaker 3: And third down, ask.

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Speaker 1: You a little bit about Taj Spears from a mental standpoint.

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Speaker 1: So he has a lot of plays that don't go

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Speaker 1: and yet he still pops the big run. His patient

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Speaker 1: that he knows you just have to keep basically hitting

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Speaker 2: the biggest thing is is we trust him in protection.

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Speaker 2: so again we know that he's going to gain yards eventually,

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Speaker 2: I know he takes a lot of pride in.

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Speaker 1: On paper, it appeared as though your special teams had

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Speaker 1: a very good day. Did it look that way when

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Speaker 1: you watch the video except for the two.

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Speaker 2: Penalties you know where that were, you know, dumb pretty

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Speaker 2: much the simple way to put it cost his field

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Speaker 2: position that we had earned and gained. Would have liked

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Speaker 2: to see the kickoff be better instead of letting them

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Speaker 2: could have been a really another really big momentum, you know,

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Speaker 2: creating play had we tackled them inside the fifteen yard line.

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Speaker 2: But we punted the ball well and fielded punts, so

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Speaker 2: you know, we executed the fake. We weren't able to

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Speaker 2: just need to keep going. We need to be able

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Speaker 2: also you know, need to take some pride into and

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Speaker 1: Good to win, maybe even better that you showed the

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Speaker 1: template yesterday doing what you want to do on offense,

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Speaker 1: make sure that we're we're being efficient, we're standing out

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Speaker 1: a third and long, we're not beating ourselves. And then

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Speaker 1: then there are times where we don't do that, and

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Speaker 1: you can see the difference, and we hit some shots,

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Speaker 1: we ran a football, we got off the field on

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Speaker 1: we give up a third and long and third and

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Speaker 1: but there's also times where it's like, guys, this is

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Speaker 1: again the whole conversation why we're gonna win. But then

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Speaker 1: this is also why we've lost.

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Speaker 4: And so.

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Speaker 3: That was the message coming out of.

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Speaker 2: The bye week, and you know, again it's just we're

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Speaker 1: Certainly have to do that against Pittsburgh at Pittsburgh in primetime. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we got no chance. I mean I've created fifteen turnovers

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Speaker 1: guys that they have, so you know, those all are

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Speaker 1: our efficiency and our ability to stay true to the

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Speaker 1: to win. That's my Monday talk with Mike Vrabel. Hey

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Speaker 1: Titans fans, it's always game on with Duncan, So grab

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Speaker 1: a coffee and kick off the action. Whether that's drinking

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Speaker 1: or grabbing one to go before watching the game at home,

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Speaker 1: Ramon Foster. Ret Brian, I want to start with you

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Speaker 1: in this segment. You have seen a lot of debuts

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Speaker 5: Well, I mean the touchdown count was similar, the dominating

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Speaker 5: Dude has a cannon. He can unleash it, but the

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Speaker 1: I thought he was poised.

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Speaker 5: I thought he did not hurry too much when the

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Speaker 1: With Ramon Foster. You have seen quarterback debuts in different

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Speaker 6: I think it was with redsis aid a second go,

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Speaker 4: He knew when to run it.

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Speaker 6: The decision making was very precise, I thought from him,

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Speaker 4: The field was good.

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Speaker 6: You even saw him at the line of scrimmage at

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Speaker 6: And for a franchise guy who can potentially be your

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Speaker 1: He certainly did offensive line play even after the loss

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Speaker 6: This is me, this is me looking down the line.

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Speaker 1: That's your left side.

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Speaker 6: I saw Peter Skeronsky going to clean up guys. When

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Speaker 6: But Mike, I'll be honest with you, I am being

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Speaker 6: The One thing about the league, and we've seen it

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Speaker 4: The NFL is about the redemption store.

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Speaker 6: And that's why most coaches that tell you don't worry

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Speaker 1: It was just for half.

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Speaker 6: Whatever case may have been, Atlanta could have targeted him,

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Speaker 6: Nobody tell you tuck your head and bury it in

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Speaker 4: Hey, I'm not out on you.

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Speaker 6: It's just that we found a better alternative and any

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Speaker 1: Nicholas Petit Frere Rhett is not only big athletic, but

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Speaker 5: Couple that with I think the thing that helped him

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Speaker 5: He had that prior experience to be able to just go, yes,

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 6: and Dan you start to define, Okay, well I can

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Speaker 6: But that model of the more you can do, the

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Speaker 1: If he's a left tackle at Northwestern, why does Mike

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Speaker 6: Ramon understanding your personnel, Mike putting the best five guys

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Speaker 6: You put him an NPF on the court together, NPF

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Speaker 6: the thing. The best thing you can do is be

439
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Speaker 6: honest with yourself. And I think that's what Rabel is

440
00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:52,840
Speaker 6: coming from. It is like, bro, I could put you

441
00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:56,600
Speaker 6: at left tackle, but hear me out, you might struggle

442
00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:59,000
Speaker 6: and have one or two plays, but you're gonna be.

443
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Speaker 4: An all pro, Pro Bowl guard if I put you on.

444
00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:05,200
Speaker 6: He's got the buildings all you need athletically, he has

445
00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:07,520
Speaker 6: a lineage, and then he also has a draft pick.

446
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Speaker 6: If your first round guard center type, you get noticed

447
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Speaker 6: a little bit more. Think about the kid and uh Indiana, right,

448
00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:18,200
Speaker 6: we're talking about a guy that can bring that type

449
00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:22,639
Speaker 6: of dominance to the inside interior side of your I

450
00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:26,160
Speaker 6: mean you have that type of guy, and Peter Scaronsky all.

451
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Speaker 5: Right, let me ask you this, based on what you're

452
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Speaker 5: saying about great left guard, pretty good to better tackle.

453
00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:38,720
Speaker 5: Is that more about his body makeup as much as

454
00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:42,720
Speaker 5: it is his athletic skill set and physicality and those things.

455
00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:45,160
Speaker 6: I would think his body makeup more than anything because

456
00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:46,280
Speaker 6: his feet are good.

457
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Speaker 3: Uh.

458
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Speaker 6: You can knock the pre draft conversation with the arms

459
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Speaker 6: all you want to, but I think it's his body type.

460
00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:56,919
Speaker 6: He can be a better role, greater interio, small space

461
00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:59,200
Speaker 6: guy than he would be on the island.

462
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Speaker 4: In the NFL.

463
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Speaker 6: I think people minimize how good left tackles have to be,

464
00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:08,000
Speaker 6: how athletic they have to be, how good you need

465
00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:09,879
Speaker 6: to be able to move because you see it and

466
00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:11,600
Speaker 6: it's look, oh they're just moving in space.

467
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Speaker 1: No hear be out.

468
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Speaker 6: I had to move from tackle to guard, and I

469
00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:19,119
Speaker 6: could play tackle well enough in the NFL when I

470
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Speaker 6: was in You know, I was a swing guy my

471
00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:24,240
Speaker 6: rookie year and I can be serviceable, but over the

472
00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:27,919
Speaker 6: long time I was better suited to move inside and

473
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Speaker 6: it took some adjustment a reality. I don't want to

474
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Speaker 6: be a guard. No, what is it gonna take for you?

475
00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:35,840
Speaker 6: Get on the field and maximize your potential. And if

476
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Speaker 6: you're asking me, a guy that went from guard to tackle,

477
00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:42,000
Speaker 6: guard maximizes his potential way more than what tackle could

478
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Speaker 6: ever do for him.

479
00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:45,320
Speaker 1: All right, so let's take this a step further, as

480
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Speaker 1: we are clearly in the weeds right now. The statement

481
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Speaker 1: has been made through the pre draft process and ret

482
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Speaker 1: remembers this too. Nicholas petit Frere is a right tackle.

483
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Speaker 1: He's a right tackle. He's a right tackle. Is he

484
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Speaker 1: a right tackle or could he become a left tackle?

485
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Speaker 6: I think it's smarter for him to be a left tackle.

486
00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:08,720
Speaker 6: And here's a left tackle or left tackle? Okay, left tackle.

487
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Speaker 6: And here's the thing about NPF. He swung a little

488
00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:13,840
Speaker 6: bit in college play the year right, year left, right, correct.

489
00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:17,719
Speaker 6: NPF came out young, too, didn't he. You still got

490
00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:19,840
Speaker 6: clay that you can mold with a guy like him.

491
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Speaker 6: The reason you say right tackle because it may be

492
00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:24,439
Speaker 6: easier and safer to put a young guy at right tackle.

493
00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:26,520
Speaker 6: Most of the young cats that are coming out right now.

494
00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:30,119
Speaker 6: Donielle right number ten overall pick before Peters Kerensky. They

495
00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:33,040
Speaker 6: immediately put him at right tackle for experience. That's where

496
00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:35,399
Speaker 6: I'm taking it. From right, he can move over to

497
00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:37,440
Speaker 6: the left. He's probably gonna end up being Chicago's left

498
00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:39,720
Speaker 6: tackle at some point, but it's easier for the quarterback

499
00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:41,640
Speaker 6: to see the blitz to coming off the right side

500
00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:43,720
Speaker 6: than it is left. The way I look at NPF

501
00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:45,920
Speaker 6: is this and the same thing and adjustment we saw

502
00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:49,439
Speaker 6: from the London game against the Ravens to last week

503
00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:54,399
Speaker 6: and London, he was a guy that gave away the

504
00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:57,800
Speaker 6: spin move to the inside. Remember watching and Noy rush

505
00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:00,320
Speaker 6: on him. This week he corrected it. You saw him

506
00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:02,320
Speaker 6: adjust to being the athlete that we think he is,

507
00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:04,560
Speaker 6: because when you're a good athlete, you're gonna find a

508
00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:06,280
Speaker 6: way to make away, and that's what he did.

509
00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:07,080
Speaker 4: You didn't hear.

510
00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:08,960
Speaker 6: Much off the edge when it came down to him

511
00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:12,520
Speaker 6: having a week, two weeks, thirteen days of preparation to

512
00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:14,919
Speaker 6: get ready to be this team left tackle. It was

513
00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:17,199
Speaker 6: unfortunate Hubbard went out with the concussion. He had to

514
00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:19,480
Speaker 6: move back over and that's a great place to be too.

515
00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:22,520
Speaker 6: The way you can be that flexible moving forward, he

516
00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:24,960
Speaker 6: should be this team's left tackle. He's got the arm

517
00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:28,880
Speaker 6: went forward, he's got the athleticism forward. You watch him

518
00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:32,879
Speaker 6: block and put his arms on people all right, so long,

519
00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:34,640
Speaker 6: and he's a big body guy.

520
00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:37,920
Speaker 5: So I ask you again because the draft punnits listen,

521
00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:42,520
Speaker 5: they're wrong a lot of times and a lot of

522
00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:44,040
Speaker 5: folks saying no, he's a right tackle.

523
00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:45,680
Speaker 1: He's a right tackle, not a left tackle.

524
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Speaker 5: You talked about young being the youth involved in being

525
00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:55,520
Speaker 5: multiple clay in this his brain power? Is that a

526
00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:58,199
Speaker 5: part of it too? Because Mike Wright, he is a smart,

527
00:24:58,280 --> 00:24:59,160
Speaker 5: smart young man.

528
00:24:59,480 --> 00:24:59,919
Speaker 1: Definitely pla.

529
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Speaker 6: It's a part in it too, knowing how to end

530
00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:05,760
Speaker 6: game switched from right side at place the left side

531
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Speaker 6: of place.

532
00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:09,119
Speaker 4: Yeah. Absolutely. Sometimes it matters.

533
00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:12,040
Speaker 6: Where you go to school at because the baselines you

534
00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:15,159
Speaker 6: get from your college coaches carries over into the league.

535
00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:17,240
Speaker 6: I know for a fact because it was told to

536
00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:19,680
Speaker 6: me when I went undrafted. But I went to Pittsburgh.

537
00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:22,040
Speaker 6: It was a conversation of where you were coached by

538
00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:24,960
Speaker 6: a head coach who was a former offensive lineman. Those

539
00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:27,199
Speaker 6: things matter. Ohio State put out guys left and right.

540
00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:29,240
Speaker 6: Some of them hit, some of them don't. But the

541
00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:31,960
Speaker 6: idea that hey, he should only be a right tackle.

542
00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:34,199
Speaker 6: You know, most people will tell you who are in

543
00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:37,160
Speaker 6: the game. That's a matter of coaching. Coaches are paid

544
00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:39,719
Speaker 6: to coach. If I want you to be a left tackle,

545
00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:42,720
Speaker 6: were gonna work through this thing. And it was a

546
00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:45,120
Speaker 6: blessing and a curse for him to be suspended, almost

547
00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:47,760
Speaker 6: in a sense, because after you watch some of the

548
00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:50,840
Speaker 6: play and the struggles that Diller had, he probably immediately

549
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:54,199
Speaker 6: was told by somebody, hey, focusing on the left side again.

550
00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:55,840
Speaker 4: Coaches are paid to coaching.

551
00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:57,960
Speaker 6: When you see them in their press conferences, most of

552
00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:00,000
Speaker 6: them rather not talk to us. They'd rather be coaching

553
00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:02,840
Speaker 6: and not talking right. That's part of their job too,

554
00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:03,640
Speaker 6: is to coach them up.

555
00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:11,800
Speaker 5: And you don't think about what happened against the Falcons

556
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:15,440
Speaker 5: until you frame it the way you just did.

557
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:19,560
Speaker 1: He went from left to right within the same series.

558
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:24,000
Speaker 5: When Chris Hubbard went out, not had to it was

559
00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:25,399
Speaker 5: a three and out or they had to punt and

560
00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:26,439
Speaker 5: he had to come back.

561
00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:29,000
Speaker 1: He did it next play, he did.

562
00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:32,160
Speaker 6: And that's where that college experience playing left and right

563
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:35,680
Speaker 6: plays a part into it. That's where honestly, been Moltable

564
00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:38,399
Speaker 6: young enough at the time to say Hey, yeah, I'm

565
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:39,440
Speaker 6: gonna just do my job.

566
00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:41,760
Speaker 4: Guys are excited to participate.

567
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:43,000
Speaker 6: In this league when they're young, So you do a

568
00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:46,040
Speaker 6: lot to stay on the field. Because MPF had a

569
00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:48,040
Speaker 6: whole year of been a starter. I'll say from my

570
00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:50,000
Speaker 6: person experience, when I got a taste of that, I

571
00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:52,280
Speaker 6: wasn't going back to the bench. So if that means

572
00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:54,960
Speaker 6: going from tackle to guard or moving from left to right,

573
00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:58,720
Speaker 6: you make those adjustments. I was my team's right guard,

574
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:01,720
Speaker 6: that was until some suff happened. I move over to

575
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:03,919
Speaker 6: the left, and you know what you do, go to

576
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:05,520
Speaker 6: your coach. What do I need to do to continue

577
00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:08,399
Speaker 6: to play? They want to coach you. They want to

578
00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:11,080
Speaker 6: show you how to make that switch, how to be stronger.

579
00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:13,600
Speaker 6: What's your inside leg your right leg for him now,

580
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:16,680
Speaker 6: how to be able to know the angles on.

581
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:17,560
Speaker 4: The back side.

582
00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:19,960
Speaker 6: What's my purpose as a left tackle or a left

583
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:22,640
Speaker 6: guard like Peter Skeronski. There's a lot that goes into

584
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:25,399
Speaker 6: and those are the inside intricate things that make you

585
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:27,879
Speaker 6: love the game even more. When you see that, you know,

586
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 6: God burst through the wall and conquer some stuff.

587
00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:33,160
Speaker 4: The way MPF did this past week, last couple.

588
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:36,560
Speaker 1: Of weeks, Atlanta has a good defense. They do not

589
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:40,119
Speaker 1: have a pass rusher like TJ. Watt. They do not,

590
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:45,359
Speaker 1: so something different for the offensive line, something different for

591
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:48,600
Speaker 1: Will Levis. They line him up all over the place.

592
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:53,280
Speaker 1: What's the challenge for them, especially on a short week,

593
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:55,199
Speaker 1: going against TJ. Watt.

594
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:56,600
Speaker 4: It's this simple. With TJ.

595
00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:01,159
Speaker 6: The moments you think you block them, block longer. He

596
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:03,679
Speaker 6: has a never die attitude. You guys have watched the

597
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:05,480
Speaker 6: film and seen the tapes in the highlights. Just like

598
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:08,439
Speaker 6: everybody else, he hasn't never die attitude. It's gonna be

599
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:10,600
Speaker 6: team protection. It ain't just one person that's got to

600
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:12,800
Speaker 6: get to him. And the moment that you think he's done,

601
00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 6: you're done blocking him, push him by. That's what it's

602
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:17,560
Speaker 6: going to turn into. It's steady chipping away at the

603
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:21,120
Speaker 6: rock and understanding you're gonna have to win someone on

604
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:24,119
Speaker 6: one and that's a part of the hard task of

605
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:29,119
Speaker 6: the job too. It's not the impossible task, but you

606
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:30,720
Speaker 6: gotta have your head on the show. If you don't

607
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:32,840
Speaker 6: get defensive player to your year, they don't just throw

608
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:36,080
Speaker 6: that out there like that. So it's a good matchup

609
00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:38,120
Speaker 6: and a great test for this young group.

610
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:45,480
Speaker 1: Talking about Thursday night in Pitchburg. The Steelers always are

611
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:50,120
Speaker 1: ready for prime time? Why are the Steelers one of

612
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:52,800
Speaker 1: those teams that is so hard to beat when the

613
00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:53,400
Speaker 1: light you're on?

614
00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 6: It's within that organization it is you, guys know I

615
00:28:57,040 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 6: loved it. Prime Time means a lot game careers off

616
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 6: of prime time. That's always been a model you. It's

617
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:06,600
Speaker 6: not even psych yourself up. That's when the world is watching.

618
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:08,520
Speaker 6: So you put on the show. And if you get

619
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 6: those opportunities to be on those primetime games like a

620
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 6: Thursday night game, Sunday night, Monday night game.

621
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:17,560
Speaker 4: You show the world why you are who you are.

622
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 6: Coach Tomlin pushes it out to guys, but the guys

623
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:24,240
Speaker 6: inherently know it too. Anybody that walks into the locker room,

624
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:28,640
Speaker 6: Hey it's prime time, that crowd will be electric. You

625
00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:31,600
Speaker 6: going into the Lions then, and you're gonna have to

626
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:34,240
Speaker 6: fight every single quarter to try to win each quarter.

627
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 1: What is Mike Tomlin's message leading into this week, coming

628
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:43,120
Speaker 1: off the Jacksonville loss at four and three and getting

629
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 1: ready for the primetime game with the Titans.

630
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:47,480
Speaker 6: It'd have to be because they got some guys banged up.

631
00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 6: The first thing he's probably gonna tell nobody cares about

632
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:50,240
Speaker 6: your problems.

633
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 1: You gotta quot and play.

634
00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:55,400
Speaker 6: Nobody cares all your problem as Kamika's out, So what

635
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:58,000
Speaker 6: all right? They lost Kevin Byer in Nashville? Right, you

636
00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 6: guys have a running back? Okay, so what figure it out?

637
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:02,640
Speaker 6: Your quarterbacks a little dinged up? What heck their starter

638
00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:03,160
Speaker 6: is too?

639
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:03,800
Speaker 1: Like?

640
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:05,840
Speaker 4: There was a lot of that that would have to

641
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:06,560
Speaker 4: be said this week.

642
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:09,480
Speaker 6: It's a short week, same timeline as everybody else. They're

643
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:12,200
Speaker 6: actually the home team, So fight through all of that

644
00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:15,320
Speaker 6: nonsense and simply go get a dub and that's what

645
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:16,160
Speaker 6: it would turn into.

646
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:17,080
Speaker 1: Just fight.

647
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:18,480
Speaker 4: This is probably gonna.

648
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:22,400
Speaker 6: Be one of those slug out, knockdown, drag out type

649
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:23,800
Speaker 6: of matchups this Thursday.

650
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,479
Speaker 1: Is that why he's so good in Back to the

651
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:28,120
Speaker 1: Wall games?

652
00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:28,640
Speaker 4: Truthfully?

653
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:31,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's all saying them drink the kool aid.

654
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:34,000
Speaker 4: He got a way of making everybody drink the kool aid.

655
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Speaker 6: When you have a coach that's a former player like

656
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:38,640
Speaker 6: Verbel coach Tom Win, it's a few you can throw

657
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:41,440
Speaker 6: out there that kind of understands the mindset of guys,

658
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Speaker 6: know how to challenge them. I always say he walks

659
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Speaker 6: around with like a cattle prod At times, I feel

660
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Speaker 6: like just jabbing people in the ribs every once in

661
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 6: a while to get you going. It would be that

662
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Speaker 6: type of week to say, hey, get it going. There's

663
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:55,960
Speaker 6: no excuses.

664
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Speaker 4: So what you lost? Quickest way to get back on

665
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Speaker 4: track is what get a dub?

666
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Speaker 1: Are you brought up?

667
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Speaker 5: Them being minus one of their big defensive stars in

668
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 5: Minka and Fitzpatrick eating tackler for this team. I think

669
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:12,240
Speaker 5: he has fifty four tackles for them already. During Mike

670
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 5: Tomlin's introductory press conference to start this week, he also

671
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 5: says that Joey Porter Junior will start at corner in

672
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:22,520
Speaker 5: place of Levi Wallace. So there's some moving parts there,

673
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:24,120
Speaker 5: but they're missing their best tackler.

674
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Speaker 6: They are. Man Minka means a lot because that is

675
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:28,720
Speaker 6: simply just that he either gets a spark going for

676
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 6: him or he's a playmaker that they always is. Johnny

677
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:34,440
Speaker 6: on the spot, you got a young rookie talented corner

678
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:37,640
Speaker 6: Joey Porter junr Is starting this week or playing a

679
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:39,959
Speaker 6: whole lot more. I do the same exact thing that

680
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:42,000
Speaker 6: we thought Atlanta was gonna do to Will Levis. I'm

681
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 6: a test them Hey, guess what if Joey Porter Jr.

682
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:47,000
Speaker 6: Has an issue with double moves? Will Levis you got

683
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Speaker 6: an arm, heave it. Let it be known like that's

684
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:51,240
Speaker 6: what you're gonna do. You put a little bit more

685
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:53,800
Speaker 6: pressure on them and try to control the narrative, because

686
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:56,760
Speaker 6: you guys have been to formally known as hains Field's

687
00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 6: before hines Field before. When that crowd gets the rocking

688
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 6: and play renegade and they got them behind, you might.

689
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 4: As well close the curtain.

690
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:05,640
Speaker 6: Sometimes that's what you can't allow to happen if you

691
00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 6: control the narrative and get out front and not make

692
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 6: those mistakes. Because that's another thing that happens in Rackulously

693
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:14,560
Speaker 6: the ball will bounce in the home team's flavor more

694
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:18,240
Speaker 6: time than that in Pittsburgh. Control your own narrative. If

695
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:20,480
Speaker 6: you want to run the ball, stick to that. Don't

696
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 6: get cute. It's a real simple plan, especially been on

697
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:24,480
Speaker 6: a short week.

698
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:27,920
Speaker 1: All right, So the OT people want to know where

699
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 1: is Ramon Foster on this whole thing? We have to

700
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:37,240
Speaker 1: discuss this. You grew up a Titans fan. You played

701
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:40,959
Speaker 1: for the Steelers, even just recently played It hadn't been

702
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 1: that long ago. You played for the Steelers and now

703
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 1: you're part of Titans Radio and you're on the Titans

704
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 1: Radio flag Tip station. You live in Nashville. How is

705
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:51,920
Speaker 1: this week going to be for you? And how do

706
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:54,440
Speaker 1: you anticipate Thursday is going to be for you?

707
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:56,680
Speaker 4: Man? Mike, you had to hit me there.

708
00:32:56,760 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 1: I did you the ot people demanded and they're already

709
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 1: asking it and socials and everything.

710
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 6: This is an easy week for me.

711
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:10,360
Speaker 4: I told rad after the game.

712
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:12,480
Speaker 6: I'll said, it's like I got a little anxiety behind

713
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:14,640
Speaker 6: it because I like to be in the show, but

714
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 6: I don't like to be the show.

715
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:20,040
Speaker 4: I like to fly low. It was like an offensive lineman.

716
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:20,400
Speaker 1: You know.

717
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 4: And that's where I am this week, because you're right.

718
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 4: I spent eleven years there.

719
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:26,480
Speaker 6: One of my boys was one at the other started

720
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:30,640
Speaker 6: school there, my wife and kids, everything was in Pittsburgh

721
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 6: most of my adult life. And that allegiance, to of course,

722
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:35,720
Speaker 6: is set my family up with a lot of stuff.

723
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:38,720
Speaker 6: So there is an allegiance there. But Mike, I gotta

724
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 6: be a pro. It's just simply put. I'm there to

725
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:43,520
Speaker 6: do a job. It'll be good to see a bunch

726
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 6: of people, and that's where it's going to become bothersome

727
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 6: because I'm already been asking being pulled in certain different

728
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 6: directions and stuff while I'm up there, and there's a

729
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:53,320
Speaker 6: lot of people I hadn't seen. I hadn't been back

730
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 6: there since before the pandemic and I retire, so this

731
00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:59,240
Speaker 6: is the first time for me. Of course, I'm gonna

732
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 6: try to go see coach Tomlin and you know some

733
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 6: of the guys I play with and whatnot.

734
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:04,840
Speaker 4: But I have to play a right down the middle.

735
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 4: I'm there to do a job.

736
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 1: Okay, I want to stop and be a fan for

737
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:11,040
Speaker 1: just second. I'm a big Mike Tomlin fan. I admit it.

738
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:14,280
Speaker 1: Amy Wells and I've discussed it multiple times. We're both

739
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 1: big Mike Tomlin fans. I like how he goes about

740
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:22,360
Speaker 1: his job. I like how his teams play. I always

741
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 1: like the fact that when he got the job, they

742
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:26,960
Speaker 1: told him, they said, well, you're gonna have to run

743
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:30,320
Speaker 1: our defense because that's what we've drafted for. He said, fine,

744
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 1: he said, dick Lebose defense, great, that'd be great. Not

745
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:36,640
Speaker 1: what he was trained in. But that showed me he's

746
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:40,000
Speaker 1: a ball coach and that he understands things. What did

747
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:42,800
Speaker 1: you like best about playing for Mike Tomlin.

748
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 6: The understanding of what the players need and how they

749
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:49,160
Speaker 6: need it. He would understand stand like one of my saying,

750
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:51,480
Speaker 6: markey'th okay, he gonna get on him and treat him

751
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:54,440
Speaker 6: a certain type of way. But he would revert conversations

752
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:56,160
Speaker 6: to me to get to Markeys. You know what I'm saying,

753
00:34:56,200 --> 00:35:00,960
Speaker 6: Like his understanding of your personnel and how he can

754
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:04,200
Speaker 6: give you the rope to be a pro. You know

755
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 6: what I'm saying, where he doesn't have to hover over

756
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:08,440
Speaker 6: you to make sure. Because one thing he was always

757
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:12,400
Speaker 6: clear about and transparent was we're here to win, okay,

758
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:14,200
Speaker 6: and if you're in the same boat as me and

759
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:15,520
Speaker 6: we're gonna win, I don't.

760
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:16,239
Speaker 4: Have to hover over you.

761
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:20,279
Speaker 6: The moment that you don't, I'm gonna fire you.

762
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:22,840
Speaker 1: You know like it. There's not a sentimental man.

763
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 6: He get much more transparent than that is Okay, I'll

764
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 6: let you do your thing. As long as you show

765
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:31,239
Speaker 6: up on Sunday, Mondays and Thursdays, we're okay. But the

766
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:34,120
Speaker 6: moment that you don't, I have that one option of

767
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:34,879
Speaker 6: letting you go.

768
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 4: But it's also this too, man.

769
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Speaker 6: Some of my best my biological dad went around had

770
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:44,280
Speaker 6: a stepdad. My mom is a focal point of my youth,

771
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 6: right and some of the stuff that you missed without

772
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:49,239
Speaker 6: having a dad around, you gotta trying to figure it

773
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 6: out a little bit for yourself. He's always been with me,

774
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:59,400
Speaker 6: a transparent uncle, father figure, always can go to type

775
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:01,680
Speaker 6: of guy to whereas.

776
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 4: How I manage my boys. How hey.

777
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Speaker 6: One of the best piece of advice that gave me

778
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 6: he told me, he was like, hey, you're married, ford

779
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:10,319
Speaker 6: to lose as many arguments as you can. I was like,

780
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:12,200
Speaker 6: what do you mean losings many arguments? I can't when

781
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 6: I'm right, I'm right. He was like, you ain't ever right. Okay,

782
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:19,200
Speaker 6: just be okay with saying yes. Because the business that

783
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:21,880
Speaker 6: you're in in football, you're going a lot. You need

784
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:24,320
Speaker 6: to understand where she's coming from. You need to understand

785
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 6: how to operate as a husband and sometimes lose those

786
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:30,440
Speaker 6: arguments and be okay with that. And there's been a

787
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:33,400
Speaker 6: lot of those life lessons that I've gotten from him

788
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 6: to whereas having a positive male figure around directly in

789
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 6: my life, my uncle and granddad phenomenal, sure, but like

790
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 6: to have those adult conversations with the guy that's doing

791
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:49,160
Speaker 6: in himself with kids. I got more out of that

792
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 6: than probably almost anything else.

793
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:53,279
Speaker 1: It feels like Vrabel has a lot the same role

794
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:55,000
Speaker 1: with the Titans players.

795
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:57,920
Speaker 4: Yep. And that's why I always kind of compare it

796
00:36:57,920 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 4: one to the other. That's why.

797
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 6: In the media they kind of talked the exact same way.

798
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:05,799
Speaker 6: Give you exactly what you need, nothing more. You ask

799
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:07,920
Speaker 6: any of their players how they feel about him, it's

800
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:10,480
Speaker 6: always gonna be something personal instead of what the game is.

801
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:13,239
Speaker 6: I saw an interaction on Sunday with tier Tard and

802
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 6: Coach Rabel. You can tell if Rabel said some slick

803
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:17,479
Speaker 6: to him about about time you showed up the player

804
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:19,880
Speaker 6: or something sure, and Brabel pushed him in his chest.

805
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:22,960
Speaker 6: Tierra turns around there too on jabs Rabel in his

806
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 6: chest to where I was like, Rabel might have to

807
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:28,359
Speaker 6: go to the hospital after this. He punched the heck

808
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:31,839
Speaker 6: out of Raid. But that relationship, it's the same thing

809
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:32,120
Speaker 6: you got.

810
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:36,440
Speaker 1: It was a meaningful moment where he was he was

811
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:40,800
Speaker 1: praising Tierre, and Tierre got it and it meant something.

812
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:44,400
Speaker 4: And that right there that wasn't even football. That was

813
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 4: man to a man.

814
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:48,800
Speaker 6: And coach Tomlin does those things with guys to where

815
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 6: if you messing up, We're gonna call you. It's numerous

816
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 6: times where young guys always want to figure out where

817
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:56,239
Speaker 6: am I at, how am I what do I need

818
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:58,399
Speaker 6: to do, and he'll put it on the big board

819
00:37:58,400 --> 00:37:59,200
Speaker 6: in front of everybody.

820
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:00,920
Speaker 4: I've heard these ty say that.

821
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 6: You know, Ben jons Is on Buck Risen Show the

822
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 6: other day he was just like, when you go into

823
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:08,200
Speaker 6: those meetings win or loss, and you know you got

824
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:11,640
Speaker 6: that play coming up, you dread it because you know

825
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:14,879
Speaker 6: if it's a bad play, he gonna call you out

826
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 6: and he gonna address her in front of everybody. But

827
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 6: it's for the betterment of you and for the betterment

828
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:23,520
Speaker 6: of the team, that level of transparency. I've learned a

829
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:25,520
Speaker 6: lot of coaches don't know how to do that now.

830
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:28,320
Speaker 1: And the other thing too, Rhett, that we've heard about Vrabel,

831
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:30,719
Speaker 1: and I'll be interested to hear Ramon respond to this.

832
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:34,800
Speaker 1: From the Tomlin point of view, Rabel doesn't play mind games.

833
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:37,400
Speaker 1: He made it clear when he first got here, not

834
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 1: into that, not that it's all straight ahead and it's

835
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 1: not about, oh, I'm not going to speak to you

836
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:46,879
Speaker 1: in the hall so you can think I'm mad at

837
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:50,440
Speaker 1: you or whatever. The players who play for the Titans

838
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:54,319
Speaker 1: have said consistently over six years that they don't have

839
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 1: to deal with a lot of extraneous bs because inside

840
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:03,359
Speaker 1: the building it's very straightforward and they like it. And

841
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:05,920
Speaker 1: we've seen, you know, DeAndre Hopkins has come in and

842
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:08,279
Speaker 1: said he likes it. The players who have been here

843
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 1: have gone to other places say they've liked it. And

844
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:14,959
Speaker 1: it comes down to that in a very different way.

845
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:17,919
Speaker 1: It's direct and straightforward on the field. It's one thing.

846
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:19,840
Speaker 1: Off the field, it's quite another.

847
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 5: And I think you're right with your analysis that I

848
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:29,800
Speaker 5: think Mike Tomlin and Mike Vrabel have much the same

849
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:34,040
Speaker 5: type of approach in both of those aspects, because you're right,

850
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:37,359
Speaker 5: what you see is what you get exactly there. There

851
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 5: are no smoke and mirrors in this. And by the way,

852
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:42,960
Speaker 5: I think you'll know it when Mike Rabel's mad at you,

853
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:46,920
Speaker 5: I think that's going to be pretty clear. But he

854
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 5: how many times has he mentioned to us publicly at

855
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 5: his podium all of these things, how much he wants

856
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:59,480
Speaker 5: to involve the families, and he loves like they just

857
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:02,040
Speaker 5: had trick at Ascension Saint Thomas.

858
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 1: It's late for his Coaches show. Last Tuesday night on TV.

859
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:08,200
Speaker 1: We had we had to do the first ten minutes

860
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:10,799
Speaker 1: without him because he wanted to be there for that.

861
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:15,759
Speaker 1: And I understand that one hundred percent because that is

862
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 1: such a family moment in our organization. And so we

863
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:23,479
Speaker 1: did we did the show a little differently because that's

864
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:25,759
Speaker 1: not just for the players and the coaches, that's for

865
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:29,160
Speaker 1: everybody in the building. Jeff Fisher loved to be a

866
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:31,799
Speaker 1: part of that, and now Mike Vrabel loves to be

867
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:33,800
Speaker 1: a part of it because they care.

868
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Speaker 5: Yeah, this is not just the players and their wives

869
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:41,080
Speaker 5: and their children. This is the faculty, This is the everybody, everybody, administration,

870
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:44,960
Speaker 5: all of it. But yeah, I feel like, but with

871
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:49,000
Speaker 5: the way that you describe coach Tomlin, I think he,

872
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:51,719
Speaker 5: even before he took that job nearly two decades ago,

873
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 5: he was born to be the Pittsburgh Steelers head coach

874
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:58,799
Speaker 5: because he has that tough mentality much like a Mike

875
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:03,600
Speaker 5: Rabel does a very blue collar, rushed Belt of America.

876
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:05,880
Speaker 6: Approach, no doubt about it. And that's what's, you know,

877
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 6: most fascinating too. Of course, with this week and certain

878
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:10,440
Speaker 6: stuff I've been trying to temper people about. You know,

879
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 6: you expect this to happen.

880
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:13,680
Speaker 4: You know, we had a.

881
00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 6: Huge stand in our building when it was competition. You know,

882
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:18,200
Speaker 6: two dogs, one bone. I mean, at the end of

883
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:20,160
Speaker 6: the day, it's only so many game day actors you're

884
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:23,319
Speaker 6: gonna have, right, So how about you guys figure out

885
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:25,880
Speaker 6: who's gonna who I'm addressed for today. You know, one

886
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:28,000
Speaker 6: of the biggest ones we had was between the Mangel

887
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:29,880
Speaker 6: Sanders who went on to win the Super Bowl, and

888
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:33,319
Speaker 6: Antonio Brown, they were rookies together. Was the third one

889
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:35,279
Speaker 6: was a sixth round draft pick and coach he just

890
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 6: put up on a big board, two dogs, one bone.

891
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:38,399
Speaker 1: Figure it out.

892
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:41,080
Speaker 6: Both of them ended up winning in the end. But

893
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 6: you don't just give stuff. You let people figure it out.

894
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 6: Tannehill and Will Levis's situation right as a former player

895
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:53,279
Speaker 6: and now a coach, I'm sure Coach Rabel's mindset is,

896
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:55,959
Speaker 6: I can't just bench a guy because of an injury, no.

897
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 4: Matter how good with Wholevis did.

898
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:01,920
Speaker 6: But if you know Tannehill goes out and doesn't have

899
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 6: a great day, you've justified me to put Will levi

900
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:08,240
Speaker 6: Is in a position now because the field handles itself

901
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 6: no matter what we expect to happen. Guys with that monset,

902
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:15,280
Speaker 6: like Coles Rabelo coach Tomlin. Let the game, let practice,

903
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:19,800
Speaker 6: let results, you know, kind of figure out which direction

904
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:20,480
Speaker 6: they go in.

905
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 1: It is the beauty and the curse of the NFL.

906
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:28,319
Speaker 1: The beauty that it is just winter loss. That's it.

907
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:34,399
Speaker 1: There are no ratings, there are no polls, there are

908
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:37,600
Speaker 1: no power numbers. That I mean, it's just what the

909
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:41,480
Speaker 1: standings say is all that counts. And it's also very

910
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:44,800
Speaker 1: cold in terms of its reality. It's the worst part

911
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:48,680
Speaker 1: of it that, you know, Taylor Heineke can come in

912
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:50,759
Speaker 1: and play a good game for the Atlanta Falcons, and

913
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 1: he did play well in the second Efy. He lost, period,

914
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:57,480
Speaker 1: that's it, I mean, doesn't make any difference. He is

915
00:42:57,520 --> 00:43:01,840
Speaker 1: not getting a trophy for participation or a Hug or

916
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:05,879
Speaker 1: an honorable mention. He gets nothing. And on the other side,

917
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 1: Will Levis, who had a nice game, he gets everything

918
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:13,640
Speaker 1: because his team won. Had his team lost, he would

919
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:17,960
Speaker 1: get nothing. And that's really what this is all about.

920
00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:21,319
Speaker 1: The Steelers are four and three, the Titans are three

921
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:25,600
Speaker 1: and four. Bill Parcell said it your record means that

922
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:29,759
Speaker 1: you are who your record says you are, and that's it.

923
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:32,359
Speaker 6: And that's why most coaches, man the good ones will

924
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 6: emphasize what you've just said. Like you said, there's no

925
00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:39,240
Speaker 6: rankings with them other than not you're hosting up that trophy. Right,

926
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:44,399
Speaker 6: This is simply if you win, you win. I don't

927
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:46,560
Speaker 6: care if it was ugly, I don't care how it

928
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:48,879
Speaker 6: turned out. At the end of the day, we're looking

929
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:51,759
Speaker 6: at wins and losses, and your business is to win,

930
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 6: like we play a game. And that's why I we

931
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 6: try to let people know I love the beauty of

932
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:59,000
Speaker 6: what the NFL is because we are all, even us

933
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 6: in this room right now, compet say that through the

934
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:03,640
Speaker 6: NFL in some sense, right, we're a part of the fraternity.

935
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 6: But you get what you get in this world, though,

936
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:09,840
Speaker 6: and that's what the NFL is all about, is production

937
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 6: and results at the end of the day, and you

938
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:14,279
Speaker 6: will be put up on the pedalstal when you get

939
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 6: those right type of results.

940
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:19,600
Speaker 5: That reminds me of something and I'm paraphrasing here, but

941
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:24,640
Speaker 5: what coach Frable has mentioned numerous times that football, while

942
00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:27,960
Speaker 5: it doesn't it isn't life because life is harsh and

943
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:30,520
Speaker 5: there's horrible things that happen, there's really good things that happen.

944
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:33,960
Speaker 5: But the football team and the organization and all that

945
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:37,520
Speaker 5: wins and losses and going through the roller coaster is

946
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:40,520
Speaker 5: kind of like life. There's gonna be good days, there's

947
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 5: gonna be bad days, bad days. And I think that's

948
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:47,799
Speaker 5: what his approach is. And again it sounds like that's

949
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:50,399
Speaker 5: what Mike Tomlin's approach is. It's like you can take

950
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:53,719
Speaker 5: some of that and place that in your team meeting rooms,

951
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:56,760
Speaker 5: in your locker rooms, that things are going to happen.

952
00:44:57,440 --> 00:44:59,279
Speaker 5: Let's ride the wave when it's good, and let's go

953
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:01,360
Speaker 5: to work when it's not, and let's keep working the

954
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:02,080
Speaker 5: whole way through.

955
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:04,960
Speaker 6: Absolutely, And that's why I know on Titans Radio when

956
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:07,560
Speaker 6: we do our broadcast, at the end of it, if

957
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:10,439
Speaker 6: it's a dub, we let the people know enjoyed that

958
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 6: it's hard winning.

959
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:12,320
Speaker 1: In his league.

960
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:15,960
Speaker 6: I chuckle every time I hear your end of the

961
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:19,239
Speaker 6: call with the Falcons games like it's a homecoming and

962
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:22,759
Speaker 6: the dance is that much sweeter after I asked you

963
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 6: all the time, how do you come up with this,

964
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:26,160
Speaker 6: mich I need a little bit of that, man.

965
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:30,160
Speaker 1: Well, there was always a homecoming dance. It was after

966
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:33,400
Speaker 1: the game. Yeah, sometimes they were good. If you lost

967
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:37,520
Speaker 1: like we did my senior year, the dance wasn't Yeah,

968
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:40,160
Speaker 1: the dance wasn't fabulous. That's why people have gone to

969
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:43,359
Speaker 1: having the dance on Saturdays now, Is that why? Yeah,

970
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:47,960
Speaker 1: that's why. Very smart, very smart, because after a loss,

971
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 1: you do not want to go to the dance and

972
00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:52,200
Speaker 1: have your picture made sitting on a hay bale with

973
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:55,320
Speaker 1: a pumpkin with a big frown. There was a little

974
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:59,879
Speaker 1: gigantic frown on your face. Well, and in talking about

975
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:06,760
Speaker 1: the dealing with disappointment, dealing with failure, you know, that's

976
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:10,839
Speaker 1: what the question has been about Will Levis's how would

977
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 1: he deal with that? And because he takes everything very seriously,

978
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 1: he cares dramatically. And in this league, you can't go

979
00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:22,799
Speaker 1: in the tank if you throw a pick, which he

980
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:25,680
Speaker 1: will at some point, he will lose a fumble, he

981
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:27,279
Speaker 1: will make a bad play. I mean, it's going to

982
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:31,560
Speaker 1: be part of it. The great ones come back from that,

983
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:34,960
Speaker 1: you know. Tom Brady came back from it, Peyton Manny

984
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:37,800
Speaker 1: came back, Johnny Unitas came back from it, Roger Staulbach,

985
00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:40,880
Speaker 1: I mean, all of them. You you have to have

986
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 1: that baseball hitter mentality that there, that failure is part

987
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 1: of it, and there are some guys who cannot succeed

988
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:53,320
Speaker 1: in the league because they can't deal with the failure

989
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:58,880
Speaker 1: aspect coaches can't, players can't. I mean, dealing with losing

990
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:01,920
Speaker 1: and dealing with fail is the hardest part and the

991
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:03,800
Speaker 1: most necessary part of this job.

992
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:07,880
Speaker 6: A lot of conversation has been had about a video

993
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:10,600
Speaker 6: of coach Rabel catching will Levi's going into the tunnel

994
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:12,600
Speaker 6: and to the locker room after the game. Will Levi's

995
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:14,880
Speaker 6: go celebrates crazy. I saw him jump in the stands

996
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:18,560
Speaker 6: with his family. He's supposed to more touchdowns on his

997
00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:23,560
Speaker 6: starting you know, his NFL debut, everything goes well for him,

998
00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:25,279
Speaker 6: and a lot has been made about a video that's

999
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:27,040
Speaker 6: been circulating a Verbel grabbing him.

1000
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Speaker 4: But Mike, as much.

1001
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:31,799
Speaker 6: As you talk about the bad that can happen, you

1002
00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:34,880
Speaker 6: also have to temper the good. And I honestly think

1003
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:37,919
Speaker 6: people seeing coach Rabel, whether they wanted Raby to run

1004
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:40,759
Speaker 6: and jump into will Levis's arms, whatever case may have been,

1005
00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:44,400
Speaker 6: was probably just a little bit of hey, remember this feeling,

1006
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:48,320
Speaker 6: control it and be a pro moving forward.

1007
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:49,400
Speaker 4: Because this is a.

1008
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:55,560
Speaker 6: Very transparent league. At times, you get what you put out.

1009
00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:58,120
Speaker 4: You have a bad game. Those same people.

1010
00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:01,200
Speaker 6: That love Will Levis or Hannah Hill or Derrick whoever

1011
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:03,480
Speaker 6: you want to name, it's gonna be the same ones

1012
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:05,839
Speaker 6: that kind of hate put the stiletto on your knee

1013
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:07,640
Speaker 6: a little bit. You know what I'm saying, Like, it's

1014
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:10,760
Speaker 6: that type of feel. And so watching his and Vrabel

1015
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:13,200
Speaker 6: exchange me was it was beautiful because I was like,

1016
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:16,319
Speaker 6: that was a coach coaching letting them know. Probably and

1017
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:18,920
Speaker 6: I don't even know that conversation that they had, but

1018
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:21,399
Speaker 6: I probably thought, before you go in his locker room,

1019
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:25,480
Speaker 6: remember this feeling, but control everything else moving forward.

1020
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:28,040
Speaker 4: That's what I would have told Will Levice afterwards. Of course,

1021
00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:31,320
Speaker 4: it's take it for what it is. You got about

1022
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:33,080
Speaker 4: thirty six hours and then we're moving on.

1023
00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:40,120
Speaker 1: If that night, oh yeah, sure, yeah, definitely. Forrett, Brian

1024
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:43,440
Speaker 1: and Ramon Foster. I'm Mike Keith, thanking you for listening

1025
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Speaker 1: to the Oh to Keith