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Speaker 2: My mother secretly hired a private investigator to find my

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Speaker 2: fiance's family.

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Speaker 3: Well we sometimes you just need a private eye to.

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Speaker 2: I'm thirty male marrying the love of my life twenty

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Speaker 2: seven female. She hates weddings, receptions, and everything wedding related.

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Speaker 2: She thinks they are boring, but understands the need for

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Speaker 2: a celebration, so she's planning a huge blowout party after

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Speaker 2: a simple courthouse wedding. The party is going to have

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Speaker 2: a lot of guests. My mom hated that we weren't

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Speaker 2: doing the traditional wedding and trying to get us to

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Speaker 2: change our minds. We declined. She then tried to get

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Speaker 2: us to invite some of her friends. I said no,

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Speaker 2: but made a mistake and mentioned that I was our

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Speaker 2: inviting a lot of my family when most of my

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Speaker 2: esso's family wasn't invited. Mom decided that these family members

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Speaker 2: have to come. They have viewed my wife as a

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Speaker 2: pariah her entire life, and I don't want them anywhere

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Speaker 2: near her. And that's when you just say no, sorry,

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Speaker 2: you can't come.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: It's like, if you're not down to celebrate the person,

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Speaker 3: then why why would you want to be there.

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Speaker 2: I know from what my mother has let slip that

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Speaker 2: she already has invitations she may send out behind our backs.

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Speaker 2: My aunt let it slip to me that my mother

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Speaker 2: is going to hire a detective to try and find

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Speaker 2: my wife's family, specifically her dad's side.

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Speaker 3: Got it, Okay, wait what wait? I'm sorry, Yeah, we're

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Speaker 3: gonna run that back.

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Speaker 2: Oh, Pea's mom is like, well, we need to have

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Speaker 2: all of your wife's family or your fiance's family there,

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Speaker 2: So I'm going to track them down and force them

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Speaker 2: to come to our wedding.

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Speaker 3: And this is the family that doesn't treat yet very well,

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Speaker 3: treats her very poorly.

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Speaker 2: So I just did that whole thing last night, and

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Speaker 2: the advice was fairly clear, come to Jesus talk now.

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Speaker 2: I decided I didn't want to put it off, so

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Speaker 2: I told my wife I wouldn't be home for dinner

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Speaker 2: and ask my mother if I could come over. I

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Speaker 2: got over there with this whole speech in my head,

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Speaker 2: something to the effect of, Mom, I love you and

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Speaker 2: I appreciate everything you've ever done for me, But this

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Speaker 2: is my wedding. Your friends are not invited. ESO's family

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Speaker 2: is not invited. If you send out those invitations, you

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Speaker 2: will be disinvited from the wedding. If you invite Esso's family,

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Speaker 2: you will be removed from my life. I know that

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Speaker 2: you know Thateso hasn't spoken to them in a long time.

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Speaker 2: There is a reason for it.

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Speaker 4: Leave it alone.

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Speaker 2: Why is she so obsessed?

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: It's probably some of them where it's like it has

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Speaker 3: to happen because it's the wedding.

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Speaker 2: They do it, how weddings go, how it's done. I'm

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Speaker 2: supposed to walk her down the aisle at ghost It's.

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Speaker 3: Like, imagine all her family are just like super villains. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and they're just like, well, they have to be here.

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Speaker 4: It's for the greater goad. It's the wedding.

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Speaker 2: Well, I got to start my speech. I think she

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Speaker 2: wanted to interrupt after the first part, but she saw

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Speaker 2: how serious I was and stopped herself. She finally did

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Speaker 2: something once I got to the disinvited part, namely, she

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Speaker 2: started wailing, how could you to your own mother the

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Speaker 4: Well, see the thing is, mom, is it wouldn't happen

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Speaker 4: as long as you don't send the invice I told you.

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Speaker 4: She's like, how could you do this?

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Speaker 2: OPI has done nothing.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I've done nothing, but be like, don't do don't

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Speaker 2: I just didn't have a bone of empathy at that point,

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Speaker 2: so I plowed on. I got to the end of

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Speaker 2: my speech and she started going into a diatribe about

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Speaker 2: how my ESO has changed me. Accused her of being abusive,

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Speaker 2: basically called her everything short of Satan for taking away

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Speaker 2: her little boy. This led to a screaming match and

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Speaker 2: I left without much being resolved. She hasn't contacted me.

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Speaker 2: Who has contacted me is my aunt who gave me

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Speaker 2: the tip off about the PI being hired in the

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Speaker 2: first place. Apparently my mother invited her along to visit

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Speaker 2: a detective That seemed promising. So finally what I could

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Speaker 2: use some advice on. My wife still doesn't know about

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Speaker 2: any of this. She knows something's up, but I asked

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Speaker 2: her to give me time to figure it out for myself.

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Speaker 2: How do I tell her since it's her family. Secondly,

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Speaker 2: the way that I see it, I have two options

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Speaker 2: to go with for the day of the wedding. I

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Speaker 2: call Plan A the straightforward way, and Plan B the

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Speaker 2: evil way.

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Speaker 4: Okay, well, gotta.

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Speaker 2: Go the evil way?

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Speaker 4: Well, really, are you choosing evil today? Gotta go the

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Speaker 4: evil way? Well, I guess. Let's see what's in each option.

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Speaker 2: You have two wolves in you, the straightforward one and

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Speaker 2: the evil one. The straightforward way or wolf is to

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Speaker 2: essentially just wait for my aunt to confirm that Mom

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Speaker 2: has hired a PI, confront her with the knowledge, and

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Speaker 2: go no contact. The second, more evil option is to

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Speaker 2: let her come to the wedding. You see, the place

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Speaker 2: for holding this blowout is indoors, with only two doors

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Speaker 2: put them on each door. I could just hand them

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Speaker 2: a list of the people who have been invited and

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Speaker 2: have them turn away my mother's friends and my asso's

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Speaker 2: family one by one. If if my mother gets a

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Speaker 2: I'll just tell her coolly that she didn't have my

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Speaker 2: and apologize to each and every one of them for

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Speaker 2: stepping out of line. Yeah, the evil option may be

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Speaker 2: a little too cartoony, but god, it would be satisfied.

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Speaker 4: That doesn't even sound evil.

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Speaker 2: That didn't even sound that evil. I do think maybe

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Speaker 2: straightforward is the best way to go, But that didn't

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Speaker 2: even sound that evil. That was just like, she can

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Speaker 2: come and if she does what I told her she

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Speaker 2: can't do, then she has to go apologize to people.

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Speaker 3: If anything, it's like I'm going to hire security and

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Speaker 3: let her deal with the consequences of her own action.

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Speaker 4: That doesn't even sound evil at all.

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Speaker 2: So evil anyway, advice and other ideas about how to

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Speaker 2: handle my mother joking or not are appreciated immensely. I

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Speaker 2: need to tell my wife soon, so that part would

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Speaker 2: be especially helpful. Thanks everyone, And there is an update. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I've figured you guys would appreciate an update, and you've

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Speaker 2: figured right. Since a lot has happened already, I wanted

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Speaker 2: to start by saying thank you, YadA, YadA, YadA. Okay.

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Speaker 2: Second to a point ofarification, the reception we're holding is

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Speaker 2: my girlfriend's idea. She has wanted to throw a party

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Speaker 2: exactly like this since she was a teenager, but never

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Speaker 2: had a chance to until now. This isn't a traditional

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Speaker 2: reception because she hates those. There's going to be a

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Speaker 2: pizza bar, salad bar, ice cream bar, and an open bar.

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Speaker 2: There will be dancing and games for all ages. She's

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Speaker 2: purposely putting together a play area for kids with babysitters

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Speaker 2: on hand, just so our friends with kids can come

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Speaker 2: and not worry about it. There's literally going to be

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Speaker 2: everything from ballpits to cards against Humanity. I don't want

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Speaker 2: to take this away from her. This party is her dream. Also,

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Speaker 2: my mother knows nothing about those particular details. I learned

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Speaker 2: the term CBF from this sub What is that she be?

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Speaker 3: Child ceremony, ceremony, balloon fight, Yeah, celebratory ballroom frolicking.

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Speaker 2: Oooh okay, And I was just imagining her glorious.

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Speaker 3: Oh no, I want to say something face yeah, like beeface,

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Speaker 3: like C word, B word face, confused butt face.

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Speaker 2: I knew, I knew I had to tell her about

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Speaker 2: everything that had happened, though. That's part of the reason

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Speaker 2: I stopped replying to comments as early as I did.

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Speaker 2: My wife got home. I sat her down and told

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Speaker 2: her what my mother was planning to do. She pretty

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Speaker 2: much knew the rest already, though I also imagine that

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Speaker 2: my mother definitely had fake invitations she'd planned to send out.

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Speaker 2: She listened, and her face just got hard when I

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Speaker 2: mentioned her family, but she kept listening. When I was done,

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Speaker 2: she said, Okay, they aren't coming. I agreed. We had

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Speaker 2: to plan a plot. There is a deposit down on

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Speaker 2: the venu, but the date is far enough out that

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Speaker 2: it could be transferred to a different date. She upped

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Speaker 2: it by a week. My mom will not be told

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Speaker 2: until the day up. Ooh, so she's going to tell everyone, Oh,

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Speaker 2: you had to come to my son's wedding, it's on

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Speaker 2: this day. And then op's going to be like day of. Oh,

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Speaker 2: just let you know the wedding was changed to the

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Speaker 2: next week. Yeah, or maybe maybe not day of. You

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Speaker 2: would tell him day of the new wedding day.

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Speaker 3: You just got to plant the secret, the seat date,

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Speaker 3: the secret fake date exactly.

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Speaker 2: My mom will not be told until the day of.

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Speaker 2: My wife also agreed to the extra security measures. What

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Speaker 2: good chance a few of them will. And if my

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Speaker 2: doesn't want to see any of them, and frankly, I

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Speaker 2: don't blame her. I ask my aunt to go ahead

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Speaker 2: with my mom to the appointment with the PI, thinking

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Speaker 2: maybe she could get the contact information and I could

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Speaker 2: call the PI and let them know what's up. But

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Speaker 2: I don't know if that will work. My asso already

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Speaker 2: feels bad that we're involving my aunt. When I express

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Speaker 2: the mental health professional, though her behavior has gotten significantly

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Speaker 2: worse lately, so I'm not opposed at all. After that

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Speaker 2: long ramble, that brings us the other debate, how to

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Speaker 2: handle my mom. Do we disinvite her outright or go

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Speaker 2: the right out of letting her come and letting her

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Speaker 2: deal with the fallout from the fake invitations. We want

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Speaker 2: to be able to keep tabs on her in case

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Speaker 2: she tries anything else. But as things stand, the arrangement

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Speaker 2: we have with my aunt for blowing the whistle when

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Speaker 2: she hears something is working out great. We're afraid if

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Speaker 2: we do much else, Mom, we'll realize where we're getting

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Speaker 2: the information from and my aunt will be put on

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Speaker 2: an information diet. You have to keep your mole in place.

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Speaker 3: You have to give her away the informant, yes, do whistle,

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Speaker 3: keep your sources anonymous.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And plant the fake information. Yeah, plant some fake info,

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Speaker 3: little little breadcrumb.

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Speaker 4: Mm hmm. And then she'll be like, how could you

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Speaker 4: deceive me?

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Speaker 2: Lie to me?

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Speaker 3: It's like, because look what you were doing, you're about

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Speaker 3: to do which I told you not to do.

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Speaker 2: That To clarify my mother isn't coming one way or another.

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Speaker 2: This one is going to be a bit shorter. But

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Speaker 3: You can't let her follow the bread crumbs back to

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Speaker 4: To the gingerbread house.

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Speaker 3: Ah, your spy careers is coming to an end quick.

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Speaker 2: Terrible. Also, this isn't the first time my mother has

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Speaker 2: All I'm thinking about that are four tempers? Whoa frolic?

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Speaker 4: What is that severance?

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Speaker 2: And the party is happening early July. Because these events

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Speaker 2: Invite or not invite, to be or not to be Horatio,

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Speaker 2: We had some time to decide since my wife needed

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Speaker 2: I think they're just a little bit worried that she's

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you ain't getting within like punt in distance.

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Speaker 2: Yeah she may find out, but that's easy to write

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Speaker 2: A lawyer, I guess maybe your like restraining order. I

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Speaker 3: I guess what like it's like, you legally have to

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Speaker 4: You invited me.

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Speaker 2: I have no I have it writing ps. I feel

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Speaker 4: Oh boy, oh boy, just keep calling your mother.

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Speaker 3: Let's call her Margaret, mom, mat Mom, Grit thatcher, Mom.

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Speaker 2: Grit thatcher.

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Speaker 4: That Scha the snatcher is what they called her because

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Speaker 2: No in Australia, Well, at least that's what my mom said.

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Speaker 2: In Australia, they called her that Scha the snatcher because

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Speaker 4: Yeah, money, Yeah, that Scha the snatcher.

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Speaker 2: Update three, Holy crap, it's been busy, you guys. This

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Speaker 2: to be a long post. This is seven thousand words. First,

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Speaker 2: we had that conversation with the lawyer. We've talked about

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Speaker 2: but that didn't mean we couldn't go see him ourselves

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Speaker 2: go directly to the PI and say, please, please stop

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Speaker 4: Over the place.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Tom Sellick stopped being Tom Sellick cases.

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Speaker 2: Stop pyeing on me, dude. Yeah, so that's what we did. However,

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Speaker 4: With the PI.

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Speaker 2: She agreed to do it in exchange for lunch and

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and get rid of your mom. Mom swap mom

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Speaker 4: swap like that. Did you guys ever watch the movie

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Speaker 2: You mean the show wife Swap?

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Speaker 4: Did I say movie?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: You eat it? Well?

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Speaker 3: You mean the show mental gymnastics. They are moving pictures. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: So after that, all three of us, aunt, wife and

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Speaker 2: When we first walked in, we pleaded our case, my

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Speaker 2: I told him I'd pay him not to investigate everything.

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Speaker 2: He was quiet through it all and at the end

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Speaker 2: He's like, yes, there's so much to think about about

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Speaker 3: Yes, so much money from your mom? Did about my revenution.

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Speaker 2: My finances. You're both offering me great deals.

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Speaker 3: As proposal, I spy on both of you at the

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Speaker 2: Did you think about that? Didn't think about that?

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Speaker 3: To do?

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Speaker 2: I think we should hire a private investigator to spy

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Speaker 4: Guess it's not really amazing for Riley.

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Speaker 3: And seek, but with the PI. Yeah, So I was

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Speaker 4: Yeah. See, that's that's good. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I was at her house. She had invited me to dinner.

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Speaker 2: her hiring a PI to find wife's family. She immediately

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00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:12,040
Speaker 2: started denying, but I told her I went to see

443
00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:14,520
Speaker 2: the same PI she had hired. She gave this big,

444
00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:17,240
Speaker 2: dramatic sigh and said something along the lines of, well,

445
00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:19,359
Speaker 2: it was going to be surprised, but I wanted to

446
00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:21,879
Speaker 2: give wife a family reunion for her wedding that she

447
00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:25,280
Speaker 2: didn't want. That you've been told multiple times she did

448
00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:25,840
Speaker 2: not want.

449
00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:28,560
Speaker 3: I'm trying to like think of like a pop culture

450
00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:31,720
Speaker 3: character with an evil family that they wouldn't want to see.

451
00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:33,840
Speaker 4: It'd be like, I don't know, It'd be like like if.

452
00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:35,880
Speaker 3: One of the kids from a Series of Unfortunate Events

453
00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:38,520
Speaker 3: was getting married and they were like, well, we we

454
00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:42,840
Speaker 3: just wanted to reunite you with your crazy estranged uncle

455
00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:46,879
Speaker 3: count all Law really the plot of Series of Unfortunate right,

456
00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:49,000
Speaker 3: But it's like if they grow up and get married

457
00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:50,280
Speaker 3: and then in Law is like.

458
00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:52,560
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, I just figured that you're out. The guy

459
00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:56,080
Speaker 4: who raised you should be there. It's like he's literally evil.

460
00:19:56,359 --> 00:19:59,879
Speaker 2: That absolutely would be a plot in Series of Unfortunate Events.

461
00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:02,960
Speaker 3: Were they just errand for someone invited to the wedding

462
00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:05,560
Speaker 3: and they're like stop inviting off.

463
00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:07,399
Speaker 2: They're like, no, no, no, this isn't ol Off, this

464
00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:13,480
Speaker 2: is your uncle Boloff and is like hello, absolutely would

465
00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:14,320
Speaker 2: be a plot.

466
00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:16,320
Speaker 4: All right to write the script?

467
00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:18,560
Speaker 2: Oh man, you know the show is actually quite good.

468
00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:19,520
Speaker 2: I really liked the show.

469
00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:22,439
Speaker 4: I did not watch it. Is Jim Carrey in the show? No, yeah,

470
00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:23,399
Speaker 4: so that's why I won't watch it.

471
00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:25,440
Speaker 2: It's Neil Patrick Harris, and he does a great job.

472
00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:28,200
Speaker 4: He'll always be Doctor Horrible to me.

473
00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:30,200
Speaker 2: He's a really good job. But the movie's also great.

474
00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:32,160
Speaker 4: Have you never seen Doctor Horrible sing a long blog?

475
00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:32,760
Speaker 3: Nope?

476
00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:33,879
Speaker 4: My god, you would like that.

477
00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:35,159
Speaker 5: He's Neil Patrick Harris.

478
00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:37,200
Speaker 4: To me, you never seen that. It's probably just before

479
00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:38,840
Speaker 4: your time, Okay, Lich is a little bit.

480
00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:40,720
Speaker 5: He's Neil Patrick Harris's Neil Patrick har.

481
00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:42,840
Speaker 2: I reminded her that I had told her that they

482
00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:45,800
Speaker 2: weren't invited for a reason. She started saying that there

483
00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:48,639
Speaker 2: was no way that this wasn't happening at her Yes,

484
00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:52,359
Speaker 2: as in p m's I'm assuming mother's wedding and I

485
00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:55,280
Speaker 2: completely lost it. And so now it's her wedding. Now

486
00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:56,439
Speaker 2: it's your mom's wedding.

487
00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:59,000
Speaker 4: Wait a minute, I'm confused. Wait what no, no, no, no,

488
00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:00,600
Speaker 4: what what what happened? What happened?

489
00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:03,000
Speaker 2: The mom just says, so she's telling Oh, he's telling

490
00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:04,800
Speaker 2: his mom, oh, you're not invited to the wedding, and

491
00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:06,280
Speaker 2: she's like this is terrible.

492
00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:08,960
Speaker 3: This can't be happening at my wedding. And he's like,

493
00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:11,760
Speaker 3: you start your wedding, why is it? Like, I don't

494
00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:15,159
Speaker 3: understand it. That's your son's wedding. Your son can be

495
00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:17,880
Speaker 3: an extension of you, but that's not your wedding. It's

496
00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:19,080
Speaker 3: his wedding.

497
00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:22,040
Speaker 2: All of my careful planning for what I was going

498
00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:25,080
Speaker 2: to say went out the window. I screamed at her,

499
00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:28,480
Speaker 2: she wailed, and I left it off. In the midst

500
00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:30,560
Speaker 2: of the screaming, I made sure to tell her she

501
00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:34,200
Speaker 2: was disinvited from the wedding and the party. I also

502
00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:36,520
Speaker 2: told her I don't want to see her again. The

503
00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:42,720
Speaker 2: camel's back snapped, naf No, not the camel. Beyond that,

504
00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:45,720
Speaker 2: we've been setting up the house with security cameras. Wife

505
00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:48,280
Speaker 2: is happily putting the finishing touches on all the planning

506
00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:51,680
Speaker 2: now and has started putting together the minimal decorations. We're

507
00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:55,000
Speaker 2: completely set for the extinction burst that everyone has warned

508
00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:57,560
Speaker 2: us about. I have never felt more at peace with

509
00:21:57,680 --> 00:21:58,040
Speaker 2: my life.

510
00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:01,680
Speaker 4: What is the extinction burs? I think did I miss?

511
00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:04,760
Speaker 2: I don't extinction first. I think they just mean, like.

512
00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:08,480
Speaker 4: Are these dinosaurs getting married, yeah, or or like we've

513
00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:09,040
Speaker 4: heard that.

514
00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:12,800
Speaker 1: There's a comment that's going to crash into the Yucatan Peninsula, but.

515
00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:15,280
Speaker 4: We're taking it with a grain of salt.

516
00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:18,240
Speaker 2: Also, I got a job offered about five hundred miles

517
00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:21,639
Speaker 2: away that would start in September. Wife had started putting

518
00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:24,760
Speaker 2: in for positions in the same area. Okay, So you'll

519
00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:28,320
Speaker 2: be five hundred miles away from your mother, Okay. Nice.

520
00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:30,919
Speaker 2: Several of our friends actually ended up moving to that

521
00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:33,359
Speaker 2: same area. They're flying in for the parties, So this

522
00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:36,119
Speaker 2: could be interesting. That sounds like it's.

523
00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:37,359
Speaker 4: All working out for you, Okay.

524
00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:41,760
Speaker 3: And to be clear, the extinction comment was a behavioral

525
00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:45,879
Speaker 3: management reference, because when something is going extinctive fights harder.

526
00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:48,520
Speaker 3: So it's probably just like being prepared for like the

527
00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:53,160
Speaker 3: mom's last hurrah to be like nah.

528
00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:54,480
Speaker 4: And it's just like two eight Mom, five hundred miles away.

529
00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:58,160
Speaker 2: Bye update? Or I guess I was hoping for too much.

530
00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:02,000
Speaker 2: I hadn't heard from party monster, I'm assuming mother for

531
00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:05,480
Speaker 2: about six days after our discussion, long enough that I

532
00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:07,639
Speaker 2: wondered if she had gotten the message and was leaving

533
00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:10,359
Speaker 2: us alone. Yeah, I don't know what I was thinking either.

534
00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:13,800
Speaker 2: Mom calls on Friday morning, reminding me that Mother's Day

535
00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:16,200
Speaker 2: was incoming and that she expected me to be available

536
00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:19,520
Speaker 2: for our usual plans, with hat in hand, ready to apologize.

537
00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:22,320
Speaker 2: Not gonna happen. I simply didn't call her back.

538
00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:25,800
Speaker 3: She's like, it's the day that you're legally required to

539
00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:27,760
Speaker 3: forgive me for everything I done.

540
00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:29,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm going to tell you a list of

541
00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:32,320
Speaker 2: all the things that I've been doing bad. And I

542
00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:34,520
Speaker 2: did a lot of wrong stuff. But I waited until

543
00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:36,159
Speaker 2: Mother's Day to tell you because you can't be mad

544
00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:36,359
Speaker 2: at me.

545
00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:37,359
Speaker 4: Now you can't be mad at me, and you have

546
00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:39,879
Speaker 4: to forgive me legally than you. I talked to a lawyer.

547
00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:43,080
Speaker 2: When she hadn't heard from me on Friday night, she

548
00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:46,040
Speaker 2: called again, leaving another message reminding me of Mother's Day.

549
00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:48,280
Speaker 2: When she hadn't heard from me on Saturday, I could

550
00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:51,040
Speaker 2: tell she went into panic mode. My phone blew up

551
00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:54,400
Speaker 2: and the messages became increasingly desperate. There's one where she's

552
00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:58,800
Speaker 2: just sobbing. My mom doesn't cry, literally, I've never seen

553
00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:02,440
Speaker 2: her actually cry. She has perfected the fake I want

554
00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:06,440
Speaker 2: attention cry, and it sounded exactly like that. I was

555
00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:14,560
Speaker 2: just like, ooh, rise me, you wedding mean I need

556
00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:16,920
Speaker 2: to be at my wedding. I mean your wedding.

557
00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:18,080
Speaker 4: What's yours?

558
00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:18,280
Speaker 3: Is?

559
00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:22,320
Speaker 2: My fiance and I left on Mother's Day to go

560
00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:24,679
Speaker 2: do some things in another town, and I turned my

561
00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:28,080
Speaker 2: phone off to avoid the constant ringing. When we got back,

562
00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:30,200
Speaker 2: we found a note on our door from my mother.

563
00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:33,040
Speaker 2: She was threatening to call the cops if we didn't answer.

564
00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:36,600
Speaker 2: She just wanted her mother's day, et cetera. She calls

565
00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:40,120
Speaker 2: the cops and she's like, my son, I'm celebrate Mother's

566
00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:41,240
Speaker 2: Day for me now.

567
00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:44,560
Speaker 4: Please have him arrested. He won't celebrate with me, and

568
00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:50,080
Speaker 4: he won't forgive me. Please, please, please, please, mister policeman.

569
00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:53,800
Speaker 2: There's been radio silence since that incident. I don't know

570
00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:56,080
Speaker 2: if that was the start of the extinction first, or

571
00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:58,480
Speaker 2: if what I said to her last time hadn't sunk in.

572
00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:01,680
Speaker 2: I'm sure it has now. Update on our own lives.

573
00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:04,879
Speaker 2: Fiance got an interview in that city five hundred miles away.

574
00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:08,600
Speaker 2: Hopefully things will fall into place soon. If everything goes

575
00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:11,840
Speaker 2: according to plan, we'll leave quietly in August.

576
00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:14,360
Speaker 5: I'm sorry, but five hundred miles seems so specific.

577
00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:18,720
Speaker 3: We'll walk five miles and you best believe that he'd

578
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:19,760
Speaker 3: walk five hundred more.

579
00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:24,160
Speaker 2: No, no, no, but there is there is another update,

580
00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:25,760
Speaker 2: if you could believe it.

581
00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:28,280
Speaker 3: It's going to be like a new branch of law

582
00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:31,200
Speaker 3: was invented, called mom law, mom law.

583
00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:33,880
Speaker 2: And now she's forcing us to see her on.

584
00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:38,240
Speaker 3: Mother's she stole the magna carta because.

585
00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:40,080
Speaker 4: Are they in the United States. They're in England. No, oh,

586
00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:41,240
Speaker 4: I don't know, not in England.

587
00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:42,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I haven't been saying.

588
00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:44,960
Speaker 3: Mom oh, that's that's fair. Yeah, well, maybe she didn't

589
00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:47,040
Speaker 3: steal a mandic car. The joke was that she was

590
00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:51,760
Speaker 3: adding mom law into a prestigious fatal document and then

591
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:52,359
Speaker 3: trying to be.

592
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:58,320
Speaker 2: Like, see, it's in the constitution. Update five. I got

593
00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:00,959
Speaker 2: a call on Friday while I was at work. Ah,

594
00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:03,199
Speaker 2: it was on my cell phone and things were really

595
00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:05,520
Speaker 2: busy that day, so I didn't even check what it was.

596
00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:09,119
Speaker 2: Sure enough, it was Mother. She called to let me

597
00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:11,560
Speaker 2: know that she had dropped off a package at my doorstep.

598
00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:13,879
Speaker 2: She knew she was uninvited from the wedding, but she

599
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:17,360
Speaker 2: wanted my wife to have this token to police consider

600
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:20,840
Speaker 2: wearing YadA YadA, YadA, fake crying the entire time. I

601
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:24,159
Speaker 2: end up getting home before fiance and go inside to

602
00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:28,080
Speaker 2: open the package. Inside is my mother's wedding dress, nicely

603
00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:30,399
Speaker 2: sealed in one of those boxes that dry cleaners will

604
00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:33,879
Speaker 2: use to preserve clothes. Now, let me explain to you

605
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:37,399
Speaker 2: why I broke down laughing at this quote unquote peace offer.

606
00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:39,760
Speaker 2: I never knew my father. He passed away when I

607
00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:41,800
Speaker 2: was about two, which is why he hadn't come up

608
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:44,720
Speaker 2: at all in previous posts. My mother didn't grieve normally

609
00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:47,399
Speaker 2: for whatever reason, and ended up staying angry for a

610
00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:50,520
Speaker 2: long time. She smeared my father's name to me for

611
00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:53,679
Speaker 2: years and refused to let me meet my paternal grandparents

612
00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:56,080
Speaker 2: when I lived under her roof. I finally did it

613
00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:58,760
Speaker 2: behind her back when I was in college. Lovely people,

614
00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:00,680
Speaker 2: I send them invitations, the what.

615
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:04,800
Speaker 3: The what she's taking, just the not letting you meet

616
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:08,800
Speaker 3: your your grandparents, your grandparents, and then also slam dunking

617
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:12,000
Speaker 3: on your deceased no longer alive father.

618
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:14,360
Speaker 2: When she complained about my father, you would have thought

619
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:16,919
Speaker 2: that he was passed away beat dad rather than a

620
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:20,320
Speaker 2: passed away guy he abandoned us. Oh sorry, like he

621
00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:24,400
Speaker 2: was a D. D was a d beat dead. I'm

622
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:26,520
Speaker 2: trying to It doesn't make sense if I say passed

623
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:27,320
Speaker 2: away beat dad.

624
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 3: Indeed beat daddy accent.

625
00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:35,040
Speaker 2: That he abandoned us was strong for god knows what reason.

626
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:37,679
Speaker 2: The big centerpiece of her complaint, though, was their wedding.

627
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:39,600
Speaker 2: He was a cheap skate, she said, and he would

628
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 2: only allow them to get married in a courthouse. She

629
00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:43,600
Speaker 2: only managed to get her wedding dress because it was

630
00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 2: on such a sale. It was cheap and ugly, but

631
00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:47,920
Speaker 2: at least she hadn't that. The reality of the situation,

632
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:50,560
Speaker 2: as told by my grandparents, is that my father and

633
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:53,879
Speaker 2: mom were incredibly poor since they were a young couple,

634
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:56,800
Speaker 2: and their finances simply wouldn't allow them a big wedding.

635
00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,880
Speaker 2: She wanted a big wedding and had a tantrum over it.

636
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,240
Speaker 2: My grandparents used different words, but I could tell that's

637
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:04,280
Speaker 2: what they meant, and she ended up getting a cheap

638
00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:07,119
Speaker 2: wedding gown in order to make herself feel better about

639
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 2: not being treated like a real princess for a day. Now,

640
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,359
Speaker 2: with all the history behind it, and with everything else

641
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:14,639
Speaker 2: going on between me and my mother, this would already

642
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:16,920
Speaker 2: feel like any alman coming from her, but the fact

643
00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:19,159
Speaker 2: that she had to complained about this dress, calling it

644
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:21,879
Speaker 2: cheap and ugly on more than one occasion. Is what

645
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,800
Speaker 2: really did it? Mom goes to church bright and early

646
00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:27,679
Speaker 2: every Sunday. My fiance and I taped the package and

647
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:30,600
Speaker 2: put it back on her doorstep, and there is another update.

648
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:31,680
Speaker 2: It just they keep coming.

649
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:35,200
Speaker 4: Can't she just like leave it alone.

650
00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:37,200
Speaker 2: Like she's a nightmare.

651
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:40,200
Speaker 3: It's been made clear to you that you are not

652
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 3: wanted here in any way she.

653
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:48,440
Speaker 2: Orformed due to your behavior. Indeed, so back aw get

654
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:50,680
Speaker 2: out of here. How she didn't think this would be

655
00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:53,320
Speaker 2: a thing obvious? I have no idea for those who

656
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:55,560
Speaker 2: missed it. Last time, my mother tried to gift my

657
00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:58,560
Speaker 2: fiance her old wedding dress to wear. My mother complained

658
00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:01,760
Speaker 2: about this dress all throughout my childhood, essentially calling it

659
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:04,560
Speaker 2: hideous and also using it as a focal point to

660
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:07,520
Speaker 2: complain about her wedding and my passed away father in general.

661
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:09,480
Speaker 2: He did this to try and get us to break

662
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:12,400
Speaker 2: no contact. We left the wedding dress on our doorstep.

663
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:15,200
Speaker 2: I had mentioned my mother's church friends in the last post.

664
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 2: There are three of them in particular, including my mother,

665
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:20,640
Speaker 2: that make a relatively tight knit group. My mother would

666
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 2: lean on them for support when I was young, and

667
00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:26,040
Speaker 2: I'm fairly certain she still does now. I was sure

668
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 2: she was going to turn around and complain to them

669
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:31,280
Speaker 2: when we rejected the dress without a phone call or

670
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:34,160
Speaker 2: some form of communication. What I didn't realize is that

671
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:36,960
Speaker 2: this would be the beginning of my mother's flying monkeys.

672
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:39,920
Speaker 2: One of them, let's call her Cheryl, actually showed up

673
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 2: at my door while we were home. I answered the

674
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:44,720
Speaker 2: door and actually thought she came over to see me

675
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:47,960
Speaker 2: or to borrow something. I still have much to learn, clearly,

676
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 2: Either that or I need to tune up my spidey sense.

677
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 2: We stood and chatted at the door for a little bit.

678
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 2: When I asked Cheryl if she wanted to come in,

679
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:58,800
Speaker 2: she begged off. I can't remember precisely what was said,

680
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:02,400
Speaker 2: but when something like oh, I couldn't possibly, I have

681
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 2: a lot to do today. I just wanted to come

682
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 2: and tell you in person that your mother's worried about you.

683
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:11,760
Speaker 2: Also returning that dress was incredibly rude. How dare you tith,

684
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 2: I'm enabling moron who's never seen through Mom's bs end

685
00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:18,600
Speaker 2: up now telling you how to run your life or

686
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:19,320
Speaker 2: something like that.

687
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:21,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I gave back the dress. That you always said

688
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:23,080
Speaker 3: was ugly and hideous, that you hated.

689
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:25,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd be like, didn't you say you hated this dress?

690
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:27,880
Speaker 2: You leave you you've returned the dress and on it

691
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:29,520
Speaker 2: you said you put a note and says didn't you

692
00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:30,120
Speaker 2: say you hated this?

693
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:33,000
Speaker 3: Yeah? Why are you trying to like coseplay role play

694
00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 3: daydream that this is your wedding?

695
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:37,840
Speaker 2: So weird, so weird? Top? I told her in the

696
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:40,960
Speaker 2: nicest possible way to go herself, and then slam the

697
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:44,200
Speaker 2: door in her face. If my mother's flying monkeys continue

698
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:46,200
Speaker 2: to be this inept, I guess I won't have any

699
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:49,000
Speaker 2: problems managing them. This woman used to watch me when

700
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:51,120
Speaker 2: I was a kid, so maybe she just thought I

701
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:54,040
Speaker 2: needed a talking to from someone else. I don't know. Also,

702
00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:56,080
Speaker 2: my wife told me that you are all very kind

703
00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 2: for all the online shopping suggestions and told me to

704
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:00,719
Speaker 2: post a link so that you can all see it.

705
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:02,720
Speaker 2: He also told me I can't look at it. Don't

706
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 2: tell her I peaked. And there is another update man

707
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:11,280
Speaker 2: oh Man one after another up date already married. Update seven.

708
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:14,480
Speaker 2: Mom has been leaving it packages at my door three

709
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:16,959
Speaker 2: over the last week, full of stuff that she's baked

710
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 2: she's a really good baker, but I just don't want them.

711
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 2: Out of principle, Should I quietly throw them away let

712
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 2: her know I don't want them. Somehow, my wife and

713
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 2: I just split up the contents of each package and

714
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:29,120
Speaker 2: took them to work with us. Our coworkers have all

715
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 2: really liked the treats. The fourth just showed up today

716
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 2: and it was a whole cake. Thoughts, that is a

717
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 2: little bit tricky because I think this is absolutely a

718
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 2: way of like her trying to win you back or

719
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:41,160
Speaker 2: or kind of garner some favor in a way that

720
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 2: she can use the NSU.

721
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:43,800
Speaker 4: What's in that cake?

722
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:46,320
Speaker 2: What'sn't that cake? That's what I was worried about originally.

723
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:50,200
Speaker 4: Cake. It's fine, This cake takets like omens.

724
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:53,640
Speaker 2: I think you think bringing them to the workers seem

725
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 2: like this seems like a good idea, or like, you know,

726
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:57,320
Speaker 2: you just like gift them out or stuff.

727
00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:59,280
Speaker 4: I would be like, yeah, I just I wouldn't want.

728
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:01,480
Speaker 2: To throw them out. That feels wasteful.

729
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's like stop it. You're not You can't

730
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 3: get back on my side with a treaty.

731
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 2: Update eight.

732
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 4: Hey, it's sam' your ogi host here, bring it back

733
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 4: to the stories. But here's three minutes fads from our sponsor.

734
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:15,840
Speaker 2: No update on the situation with the packages yet other

735
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:18,480
Speaker 2: than the Boys and Girls Club was ecstatic to receive

736
00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 2: the cake. But the thread by someone else about the

737
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 2: creepiest thing your mother in law ever did reminded me

738
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:26,880
Speaker 2: of when I first met my fiance then just girlfriend,

739
00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:29,240
Speaker 2: so I figured i'd share. I knew I was going

740
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:32,360
Speaker 2: to share stories of mother before she completely lost her marbles,

741
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:35,200
Speaker 2: might as well start now. The short version of my

742
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 2: post is Mom liked that I was attracted to the

743
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 2: same gender I'm not, I'm by, but didn't understand that

744
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 2: this meant I'd have a boyfriend. She actively pursued my

745
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,560
Speaker 2: then boyfriend for a while in a romantic sense.

746
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:52,480
Speaker 3: What so so she already got a history of it's mine. Actually, no,

747
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 3: your boyfriend, that's my boyfriend. Your wedding, that's my wedding.

748
00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:00,720
Speaker 2: That's why old ex boyfriend and I broke up due

749
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 2: to unrelated reasons. The reason Mom liked the idea of

750
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:06,000
Speaker 2: me being attracted to the same gender is that she

751
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:08,200
Speaker 2: was able to hang this fact of her people's heads.

752
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:10,960
Speaker 2: If she wasn't getting her way, they're like you can't.

753
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:14,320
Speaker 2: You can't steal that that money, mom, And the Mom's like,

754
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 2: I have a gay son.

755
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 4: You can't.

756
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:19,120
Speaker 2: I have a gay So my son is gay.

757
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 4: He's gay, he's gay, shut your dirty may this money.

758
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:25,320
Speaker 2: And my son is.

759
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:27,680
Speaker 4: Gay, son is gay, and I'm taking this money.

760
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:29,840
Speaker 2: The example that sticks out in my mind is when

761
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:32,120
Speaker 2: she put in an order to bakery for a cake

762
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:34,520
Speaker 2: for my twenty second birthday. It was a really busy

763
00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:36,960
Speaker 2: time of year and mom had waited until the last

764
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:40,520
Speaker 2: second to order the cake, so they had to decline

765
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:44,000
Speaker 2: the special order special order. She started to make a

766
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:46,120
Speaker 2: big stink about how they were doing it because I

767
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:48,840
Speaker 2: was attracted to the same gender. They ended up capitulating

768
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:51,480
Speaker 2: and making it. Oh, so it works. She's like, yeah,

769
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 2: hop of hops, you don't want to make the cake

770
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 2: because my son's gay. And they're like, oh, you've trapped

771
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:59,320
Speaker 2: us issues. There's already a problem with that other bakery

772
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:01,680
Speaker 2: that wouldn't make a gay cake. We can't be that

773
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 2: bakery either.

774
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:04,840
Speaker 3: They're just like, she's totally wrong, but the optics are

775
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 3: all right.

776
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 4: Egs, dang it.

777
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,440
Speaker 2: Anyway, ex boyfriend and I are broken up and I

778
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:13,799
Speaker 2: meet fiance. I'm immediately smitten with this woman. She's schmexy,

779
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,719
Speaker 2: she's funny, and I was just gone so fast. My

780
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:18,880
Speaker 2: friends kept teasing me later that it was like the

781
00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:20,759
Speaker 2: rest of the world became invisible to me.

782
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:21,800
Speaker 3: So cute.

783
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 4: That's toxic. No, I'm just kidding, it's sweet.

784
00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:27,120
Speaker 2: We dated for eight months before the meat the parents'

785
00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:30,360
Speaker 2: topic finally came up. I put it off because of Mom,

786
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:32,720
Speaker 2: and fiance had put it off because her father passed

787
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 2: away a few months before we met, so sore subject

788
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:38,680
Speaker 2: on both sides. She knew how crazy Mom was already.

789
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:40,719
Speaker 2: I had told her stories and said that she at

790
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:42,520
Speaker 2: least wanted to meet the woman who had made my

791
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 2: life a living hell. I agree that we could do

792
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:47,240
Speaker 2: dinner or something. At this point, I was waffling between

793
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 2: some contact in very low contact with Mom, and was

794
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:53,319
Speaker 2: struggling with the idea of completely abandoning her. I knew

795
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:56,480
Speaker 2: she was toxic, though. Because of this internal struggle, I

796
00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:59,080
Speaker 2: hadn't told her about fiance yet. I keep my private

797
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:01,479
Speaker 2: life private until I know this person will be there

798
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 2: for the long haul. So I call and tell her

799
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 2: that I met someone. She gets all excited and asks

800
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:09,440
Speaker 2: who it is. I relate my fiancee's name, and my

801
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:12,759
Speaker 2: mother is immediately confused. Mom, but you're attracted to the

802
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 2: same gender me. No, Mom, I'm by I like men

803
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 2: and women. Repeat at nauseum for about twenty minutes.

804
00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:23,440
Speaker 4: Yeah wait na, but no like you like men? You

805
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 4: like men and women?

806
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:29,280
Speaker 2: No, you like men and women, men and women, men

807
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:33,879
Speaker 2: and women. Wobbit season exactly. At the end of the call,

808
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 2: she started crying about how I had deceived her. I

809
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:37,879
Speaker 2: hung up on her.

810
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 3: She's like, I think of all the people I yelled

811
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:41,440
Speaker 3: at for your gay cakes.

812
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're not even gay.

813
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:43,759
Speaker 4: You're not even gay.

814
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:46,319
Speaker 2: You to give me those cakes. We did go out

815
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 2: for dinner about a week later. Mom was on her

816
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:51,759
Speaker 2: best behavior. She admitted later that this was because she

817
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:54,360
Speaker 2: realized she would have biological grandchildren this way, and she

818
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:56,000
Speaker 2: was trying to make a good impression. She was like,

819
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:58,719
Speaker 2: you know what, I realized now that you're not gay, Yeah,

820
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 2: I can have grandkids.

821
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:04,719
Speaker 3: She's like, I saw this crazy after school special about pregnancy,

822
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:07,920
Speaker 3: and I realized you can have children with your wife.

823
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 4: You're right, that would be my grandchildren, So I'm.

824
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:14,759
Speaker 2: I'm back on board. My spine wasn't up to stuff yet.

825
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:17,040
Speaker 2: I'd say, a solid two by four rather than the

826
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:19,880
Speaker 2: polished steel of today. So I just rolled my eyes

827
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:21,240
Speaker 2: at her, and there is an update.

828
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 3: Nine.

829
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 2: Let's keep cracking on.

830
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 4: Let's just crack on.

831
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:27,719
Speaker 2: So here's the plan I ended up going with. In

832
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:30,400
Speaker 2: the time between my asking for advice and now, my

833
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 2: mother dropped off another package. So I took the cake

834
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:36,960
Speaker 2: from the first package and the assorted make goods from

835
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 2: the second package and went on a giving free Beyonce

836
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:43,120
Speaker 2: followed me and took pictures. The Boys and Girls Club

837
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 2: got the cake, a homeless shelter got the majority of

838
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:48,320
Speaker 2: the contents of the second package. Some homeless guy was

839
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:50,719
Speaker 2: begging on the street, got some brownies, et cetera. There

840
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:52,279
Speaker 2: was a lot of stuff to give away. I then

841
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:55,000
Speaker 2: printed out some of the pictures that fiance had taken

842
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:57,560
Speaker 2: of me giving these things away and made up a

843
00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:00,200
Speaker 2: sign on some printer paper that said, thank you for

844
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:02,759
Speaker 2: your generous donation of big goods, but we will not

845
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:05,840
Speaker 2: be accepting any more food donations at this time. I

846
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:08,360
Speaker 2: then posted the sign on the door and taped up

847
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:09,400
Speaker 2: the pictures around it.

848
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 4: And wait, oh boy, oh you're waiting.

849
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:16,279
Speaker 2: This is a volcano that's about to a rip.

850
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like you're the guy.

851
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:19,879
Speaker 3: Who have you seen the video of the guys they

852
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 3: throw like a big rock and do a volcan.

853
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then it's just like and they.

854
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 4: Kickstart the volcano. Yeah, it's like that's what you're doing

855
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 4: at all.

856
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 2: I didn't know what reaction I was expecting, but I

857
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 2: did come home yesterday to find the sign and photographs

858
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:35,880
Speaker 2: crumpled up on the ground rather far away from the door,

859
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:38,759
Speaker 2: like someone got mad and threw them petty. Revenge is

860
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:41,839
Speaker 2: best revenge. I'll update you, guys if she actually tries

861
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 2: to make contact. All right, guys, update time. There's a

862
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:47,440
Speaker 2: second part to the story, but that'll come in a

863
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:48,920
Speaker 2: second post because it's longer.

864
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:49,239
Speaker 3: So.

865
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:51,880
Speaker 2: I've been seeing a psychologist for a while. It's pretty

866
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 2: infrequently at this point, but this guy helped me get

867
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 2: through a lot of the biz that Mom put me through.

868
00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:58,880
Speaker 2: I don't think he knows everything, but he knows the

869
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:02,120
Speaker 2: vast majority. He was very supportive of my going no contact.

870
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:04,880
Speaker 2: He's good at trying not to leave people down certain paths,

871
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:07,800
Speaker 2: but he looked visibly relieved when I told him. Anyway.

872
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:09,920
Speaker 2: I filled him in on the packages and how I

873
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:12,879
Speaker 2: chose to deal with them. You agree that was hilarious,

874
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:14,799
Speaker 2: but that he was getting worried about me. One of

875
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:16,840
Speaker 2: the things that I've been wrestling with for a while.

876
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:19,319
Speaker 2: As I think I've mentioned before on here is a

877
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 2: need for what can only be described as vengeance. I'm vengeance.

878
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 4: Vengeance. Yeah, imagine if his voice was different. Let's not actually,

879
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:30,800
Speaker 4: let's keep going, man.

880
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:34,040
Speaker 2: He says that it's an understandable reaction after what I

881
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:36,399
Speaker 2: had gone through, but that going down that path might

882
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:38,040
Speaker 2: hurt me more in the long run.

883
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:38,760
Speaker 4: This is true.

884
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:42,760
Speaker 2: You're psychologist is like rude. Your psychologist is kind of onto.

885
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:45,400
Speaker 3: Something is right on point. You know what it pays,

886
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:48,920
Speaker 3: what pays the most. Having no enemies. You know how

887
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:50,280
Speaker 3: you have no enemies.

888
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:51,560
Speaker 4: You don't fight anybody.

889
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:58,480
Speaker 3: I have zero nemesis, nemesi, nemasi, nessy, mamasa, mammusa.

890
00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 2: Initially I thought he meant feel is about revenge being dangerous.

891
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:04,000
Speaker 2: I started talking about how I knew it was an

892
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:06,200
Speaker 2: issue and how I definitely needed to work on it

893
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:08,840
Speaker 2: but didn't really know how yet. He sat and listened

894
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:11,359
Speaker 2: while I rambled for a bit, then clarified, I'm glad

895
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:14,080
Speaker 2: you recognized this is an issue, and it's definitely something

896
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:16,400
Speaker 2: we can work on. However, I was referring to the

897
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:18,960
Speaker 2: fact that your way of going about things most likely

898
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:22,360
Speaker 2: escalated the situation, which is what we said, dash what

899
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 2: I said, make me you said, to which I replied,

900
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:30,239
Speaker 2: oh crap. So why am I talking about this, Well,

901
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:32,879
Speaker 2: partially to reassure everyone I am getting help, and also

902
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:35,520
Speaker 2: to tell you guys that my psychologist might just be

903
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 2: nostradamus or just like, yeah, very looking at the very

904
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 2: obvious signs that say stop.

905
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, you basically like spit a spitball at.

906
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 2: Your mom and and he was like, hey, I think

907
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:50,600
Speaker 2: you just made your mom mad with that spitball.

908
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 3: And he was like I did, Oh my god, wait,

909
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 3: and yeah, that's probably gonna make her behavior worse. Oh dude,

910
00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:58,600
Speaker 3: here's eight thousand dollars.

911
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:02,800
Speaker 2: You know, this guy needs someone to tell them the obvious.

912
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, on a real level, because it's like,

913
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 3: I don't want my comment there to be misconstrued as

914
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:11,000
Speaker 3: distinc therapy. I'm dissing that it costs a lot of

915
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:13,759
Speaker 3: money sometimes, but it's like, it really is invaluable to

916
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:17,880
Speaker 3: have like a unbiased third party who's also an expert

917
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:23,920
Speaker 3: on human emotion or like human cognitive reasoning, be like, hey,

918
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:25,880
Speaker 3: like you did that, and that's not the right thing

919
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:27,839
Speaker 3: you want to do, And sometimes you really just need

920
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 3: that to be able to go, oh my, oh my god,

921
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:31,799
Speaker 3: you're you're right.

922
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:35,040
Speaker 4: I've never thought of it that way. And it's literally

923
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 4: a genius, that's all it is.

924
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:39,440
Speaker 2: Sometimes there you go, But there is an update. A

925
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:41,920
Speaker 2: few of you have mentioned that mom's brand of abuse

926
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:44,439
Speaker 2: and attempts to weasel her way back into my life

927
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 2: have been rather blunt. Well, I can tell you that's

928
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:49,799
Speaker 2: because that's what used to eat work for. I kind

929
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:52,439
Speaker 2: of assumed she would get craftier too, and I guess

930
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:55,040
Speaker 2: she's in some sort of transition period between the two.

931
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 2: Beyonce and I were home and in our den when

932
00:40:57,719 --> 00:40:59,759
Speaker 2: we heard someone trying to get in. I like, some

933
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:02,960
Speaker 2: thing trying to get in, trying to get a creature,

934
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:06,279
Speaker 2: and it sounds like it mean, I'm your mom, that

935
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 2: me in me and it's cold, god, oh ooh God,

936
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:13,480
Speaker 2: like using a key or something. Considering we were both

937
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:15,359
Speaker 2: at home, it took me a minute to realize who

938
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:18,239
Speaker 2: it probably was. I had given Mom a key to

939
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:21,280
Speaker 2: the house in case I ever got locked out, you fool.

940
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 2: It hadn't been a problem until now because I had

941
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:27,480
Speaker 2: always let her in. You should have changed the locks. However,

942
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:29,759
Speaker 2: as part of our security measure against her, we had

943
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 2: changed the locks. Okay, so you did, never mind it,

944
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:37,600
Speaker 2: take it back, crisis averted got really angry and wanted

945
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:40,160
Speaker 2: to just storm out there and confront her. However, that

946
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:43,120
Speaker 2: would break no contact, and if I was gonna let

947
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:46,000
Speaker 2: her win, So fiance and I snuck out to see

948
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:49,319
Speaker 2: what we could see, purposely hiding ourselves from the front end.

949
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:53,400
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, pause, because that's not breaking I wouldn't consider

950
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 3: that breaking no contact, being like get out of here,

951
00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:58,360
Speaker 3: get out of here. Yes, it's not breaking no context.

952
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:01,279
Speaker 3: It's not like perman hide and seek where they can't

953
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 3: see you or hear you.

954
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:05,480
Speaker 2: That's so funny. If he's like, if she sees.

955
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:06,440
Speaker 3: Me, I lose.

956
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:08,759
Speaker 4: No, you're you're she's winning right now.

957
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 3: Actually, because you're letting her like to bother you, and

958
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:13,920
Speaker 3: you're saying you're hiding behind like a door, you just

959
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:15,440
Speaker 3: need to open it and be like, get out of here.

960
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:16,240
Speaker 4: I'm calling the place.

961
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 3: Yit, yit.

962
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:19,920
Speaker 2: After a couple of minutes of trying we both heard

963
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:22,799
Speaker 2: her start to sob where you're pretty sure she threw

964
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:25,360
Speaker 2: her key down on the ground in frustration and started

965
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:28,080
Speaker 2: fake rying. We then heard her talking to someone. I

966
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 2: assumed it was my aunt in order to come and

967
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 2: pick her up, but it was not, And it turns

968
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:35,480
Speaker 2: out she called my cousin. This guy is a groomsman

969
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 2: and my mother's brother's son. I thought he understood that

970
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 2: my mother was bad, raped, crazy, but apparently not. You

971
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:44,440
Speaker 2: made up some wild story about how she knew Fyance

972
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:47,600
Speaker 2: was beating me. She could hear me screaming, but she

973
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:49,360
Speaker 2: didn't want to call the cops because they would just

974
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:52,040
Speaker 2: arrest me. He came to the house. I would if

975
00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:54,239
Speaker 2: I heard all that, I'd text him and be like, hey, dude,

976
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:56,120
Speaker 2: my mom's crazy. I'm literally fine.

977
00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 4: Sorry, this is lodge.

978
00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:01,319
Speaker 3: It's so good, like he's dreaming and being But if

979
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 3: I call him, but he'd be arrested.

980
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 2: M hm. When I saw his truck, I reassured my

981
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:08,440
Speaker 2: wife that everything was fine and he was going to

982
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:11,320
Speaker 2: take mom home instead. A few minutes later, he was

983
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 2: using a crowbar to pry open our door. Wow, I'm sorry,

984
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:16,239
Speaker 2: Oh Pee, I'm sorry. There are so many moments where

985
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:18,200
Speaker 2: you could have either knew that he was calling, you

986
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:20,800
Speaker 2: knew who she was calling to bring him up. Hey,

987
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 2: everything's fine, he's trying to get into your house. You say, hey,

988
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:27,040
Speaker 2: open the door, dude, I'm fine. There's so many options here.

989
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:28,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, you did not have to.

990
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:31,920
Speaker 3: I'm feeling like your psychologist is also going to talk

991
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:36,160
Speaker 3: to you about that decision to not immediately resolve this situation,

992
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:41,160
Speaker 3: yecause sometimes, you know, sometimes people love being embroiled in conflict.

993
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:44,720
Speaker 2: When I realized what had happened, I flew into a rage.

994
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:47,719
Speaker 2: I banged open the door and screamed at them to

995
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:50,360
Speaker 2: get off my property. My cousin started yelling back at

996
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:52,719
Speaker 2: me that he was trying to say but I told

997
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:54,560
Speaker 2: him he was uninvited from the wedding and that he

998
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:57,000
Speaker 2: wasn't a groomsman anymore because he was helping mom.

999
00:43:57,320 --> 00:44:01,240
Speaker 3: Well, this is I'm now, this is verging into everyone

1000
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 3: sucks your territory. I mean, clearly you suck less than

1001
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:06,799
Speaker 3: the mom. But it's like, this is a very clear

1002
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:10,400
Speaker 3: situation where you could have resolved it almost instantly, and

1003
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:13,000
Speaker 3: instead you kind of just like let it go. Let

1004
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 3: it go to the point where now he's damaging your

1005
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:17,040
Speaker 3: door and prying it open with the crowbar, and now

1006
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:18,640
Speaker 3: you're yelling and mad and upset.

1007
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:20,359
Speaker 4: It's like you should have just gone out right away.

1008
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:23,120
Speaker 2: Oh okay, uh. Nicole h says he doesn't. He didn't

1009
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:25,319
Speaker 2: know it was his cousin until his cousin pulled up. Yeah,

1010
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:27,480
Speaker 2: so it does seem like he was telling.

1011
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:28,160
Speaker 4: Us that act.

1012
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:31,799
Speaker 3: But no, but it's they they were watching this happen. Yeah,

1013
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:33,879
Speaker 3: it doesn't matter that he didn't know it was the cousin.

1014
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:35,719
Speaker 3: What matters is that he could have immediately been like,

1015
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:37,759
Speaker 3: get off of my doorstep before not.

1016
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:40,080
Speaker 4: Talking to you. Yeah, you have to leave.

1017
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, just like open the door.

1018
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:43,239
Speaker 3: And he's like, then I'll lose. And it's like, no,

1019
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 3: you're losing now. Actually you're losing more now than if

1020
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:47,560
Speaker 3: you had just opened the door.

1021
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:50,920
Speaker 2: Literally, my mother started fake crying again and begging me

1022
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:53,879
Speaker 2: to come home away from my harmful fiance. I chased

1023
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:56,320
Speaker 2: them off by threatening to call the cops. My fiance,

1024
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:58,480
Speaker 2: bless her, was in a better state of mind than me,

1025
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:01,479
Speaker 2: and started taking picture of them and my cousin's truck

1026
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:04,239
Speaker 2: discreetly through the window. We are in the midst of

1027
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:07,360
Speaker 2: pressing charges no idea how this is going to go

1028
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:10,200
Speaker 2: or if it's worth it to pursue it. I just

1029
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 2: feel defeated. I thought my cousin had my back, especially

1030
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 2: since he knows how crazy mom could be. Fiance is

1031
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 2: trying to be supportive and reminds me why I'm doing

1032
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 2: this very frequently. We're setting up the LLC next week Monday,

1033
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:23,880
Speaker 2: so that she won't be able to find us when

1034
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:26,359
Speaker 2: we buy our new house. Fiance got a job offer

1035
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 2: in the town five hundred miles away, where I also

1036
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:33,320
Speaker 2: got an offer. We're gone July thirtieth. Nice edit, guys,

1037
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:35,440
Speaker 2: I got it on video. I put up the cameras

1038
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:37,520
Speaker 2: a few days ago. There's two by the door. They

1039
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 2: captured the whole thing, plus audio. I listened to the

1040
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:43,120
Speaker 2: entire bull crap story she fed him. She was describing

1041
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:45,239
Speaker 2: how my fiance was the us again, just like I

1042
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:48,480
Speaker 2: told you about Holly Wrap. She's been feeding him bull

1043
00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:52,799
Speaker 2: crap this entire time. I'm so effing angry. I'm beyond done.

1044
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 2: And there is another rep. I'm I think it's a

1045
00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 2: little I don't know. I understand that where op he's

1046
00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:02,560
Speaker 2: coming from in terms of like telling the cousin that

1047
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:05,440
Speaker 2: he's no longer Grimsman. But I do think it seems

1048
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:08,960
Speaker 2: like he is not really taking into account that the

1049
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:12,480
Speaker 2: cousin was totally lied to and was trying to help him.

1050
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:14,759
Speaker 2: Like I don't know, like I do understand where oh

1051
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:15,399
Speaker 2: he's coming from.

1052
00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:17,640
Speaker 4: Well it's like, yeah, you took a growbar to my door.

1053
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:18,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, that part's crazy.

1054
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:21,160
Speaker 3: But like, did he know that the mom had become estranged?

1055
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:24,800
Speaker 3: Like as is the family aware that she's like behaving

1056
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:25,279
Speaker 3: this way?

1057
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 2: Like is because it seems like Opie's cousin thought he

1058
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:31,760
Speaker 2: was being abused imminently thought the mom heard him screaming

1059
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 2: and like rushed over to help.

1060
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like I think that was the comment earlier was

1061
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:38,640
Speaker 3: it's like, oh, he didn't know that was his cousin

1062
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:42,040
Speaker 3: until uh, the cousin showed up, so they couldn't have

1063
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:42,839
Speaker 3: had like a phone call.

1064
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:45,319
Speaker 4: But like, dude, I'm fine, But it's like again, open

1065
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:48,560
Speaker 4: the door. You just opened the door and go get out.

1066
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:49,560
Speaker 4: She's lying.

1067
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:52,920
Speaker 2: I don't know what did the cousin knock at all

1068
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:53,440
Speaker 2: or did he just.

1069
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:56,920
Speaker 4: I don't know. Probably there was probably a lot of

1070
00:46:57,000 --> 00:47:00,239
Speaker 4: knocking and then the mom. The mom's crying. There's a

1071
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:00,799
Speaker 4: lot going on.

1072
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 1: And he's like, oh, okay, I guess I'll just uh

1073
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:05,200
Speaker 1: leverage the door open with a crowbar.

1074
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:08,680
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, not like why does your keywork anymore?

1075
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:13,080
Speaker 2: Cause she changed the lock so she can savage my son.

1076
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:15,680
Speaker 2: I do feel like a little like a conversation could

1077
00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:17,279
Speaker 2: be had with the cousin afterback.

1078
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:22,600
Speaker 3: Also, dude, if you have these security cameras, I guarantee

1079
00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 3: you there was a way for OP to be like

1080
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:28,880
Speaker 3: like through their phone like hey, I'm fine, y'all need

1081
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:29,319
Speaker 3: to leave.

1082
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, well this is a ring right or all the

1083
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:35,719
Speaker 4: There's so many that you can do that with. So

1084
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:36,560
Speaker 4: I don't know.

1085
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 3: I think clearly Op's not like, you know, the catalyst

1086
00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:43,680
Speaker 3: here is Opie's mom, but OP went about that in

1087
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:46,520
Speaker 3: the way that was most likely.

1088
00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:48,320
Speaker 4: To cause more problem.

1089
00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:50,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that seems to be the low key.

1090
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:53,080
Speaker 3: The way that Ope's operating is it's like, you know,

1091
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:55,279
Speaker 3: you kind of got to the you were like kind

1092
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:56,600
Speaker 3: of home free, and it was like, all right, now

1093
00:47:56,600 --> 00:47:58,600
Speaker 3: we're getting ready for her behavior to get worse as

1094
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:00,440
Speaker 3: we cut her off and then just like did not

1095
00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:03,720
Speaker 3: feed into it, but you're like escalating, let me escalate

1096
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:07,000
Speaker 3: it escalating and by like not by not just opening

1097
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:09,440
Speaker 3: the door and being like leave you escalated. You allowed

1098
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:13,080
Speaker 3: that situation to escalate without you affecting it. So, which

1099
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:16,160
Speaker 3: in and of itself was a decision. And why don't

1100
00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:19,640
Speaker 3: we want peace? Op, Let's keep the peace. Let's keep

1101
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:21,040
Speaker 3: that piece that we fought so hard for.

1102
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:23,680
Speaker 2: Truly, but let's get into this update.

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00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:27,120
Speaker 1: This is John, this is Sam, your og Okay storytime

1104
00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:27,920
Speaker 1: podcast hosts.

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00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:31,120
Speaker 4: We have some spectacular stories coming up, but.

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00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:33,359
Speaker 1: Real quick, we got a two minute break from our

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00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:35,440
Speaker 1: lovely sponsors keeping this ship sailing.

1108
00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:38,279
Speaker 2: A little background on my uncle, just to fill in

1109
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:40,640
Speaker 2: some blanks. He's the one who made me realize that

1110
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:43,400
Speaker 2: mom was abusive and showed me what a real family

1111
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 2: was funk, a real family and real functioning household looked like.

1112
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:50,279
Speaker 2: I owe him everything. My cousin is a mechanic who

1113
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:52,080
Speaker 2: has had some trouble with the law in the past.

1114
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:54,680
Speaker 2: All of these charges were minor and he hasn't had

1115
00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:56,840
Speaker 2: any issue since about five years ago. I spoke with

1116
00:48:56,920 --> 00:48:59,840
Speaker 2: my uncle early Saturday morning. I told him everything that

1117
00:48:59,880 --> 00:49:02,680
Speaker 2: I knew about the incident and how his son was involved.

1118
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:04,600
Speaker 2: He put his head in his hands and asked to

1119
00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:06,920
Speaker 2: speak with his son privately before I spoke with him.

1120
00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:09,000
Speaker 2: I said that was fine. My uncle called me later

1121
00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:10,880
Speaker 2: that night. He told me that he had spoken to

1122
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:12,880
Speaker 2: my cousin and that there were some things I needed

1123
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:15,120
Speaker 2: to know. As many of you suspected, my mother has

1124
00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:18,040
Speaker 2: been spreading rumors that my fiance is beating me, not

1125
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:20,239
Speaker 2: just to my cousin, but to anyone in the family

1126
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:23,040
Speaker 2: who would listen, so everyone's being spread by She could

1127
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:25,879
Speaker 2: play concern mother this way, and of course everyone knows

1128
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:28,200
Speaker 2: that people who grow up in a harmful households always

1129
00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:31,239
Speaker 2: end up in harmful long term relationships. Of course, we

1130
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:33,800
Speaker 2: can't ask him about it, because then he'll just deny it,

1131
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:36,600
Speaker 2: and fiance will know we're on the whole deal. They'll

1132
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:39,400
Speaker 2: and they'll do something drastic. My uncle hasn't heard a

1133
00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:42,200
Speaker 2: word of these rumors, probably because Mom knew he wouldn't

1134
00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:44,880
Speaker 2: believe her. My aunt hadn't either, but she said it

1135
00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:47,359
Speaker 2: was possible that Mother just hadn't gotten to her yet

1136
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:50,520
Speaker 2: with rumors like that filling his head. I can sympathize

1137
00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:52,719
Speaker 2: with where my cousin was coming from, but I had

1138
00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:55,360
Speaker 2: no idea how to proceed from here with him or

1139
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:57,560
Speaker 2: the rest of my family. My uncle and aunt are

1140
00:49:57,600 --> 00:50:01,760
Speaker 2: the only ones. Mom probably hasn't weaponized into flying monkeys,

1141
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:03,640
Speaker 2: and she's done it in such a way I don't

1142
00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:05,920
Speaker 2: know if anyone else would believe my side of the story.

1143
00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:08,279
Speaker 2: We're leaning more and more towards the idea of just

1144
00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:10,600
Speaker 2: a loping yance. I started putting together a list of

1145
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:12,600
Speaker 2: people she'll need to call on Monday. We're going to

1146
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:14,800
Speaker 2: announce the move at the wedding, but we're thinking of

1147
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:17,160
Speaker 2: just quietly leaving and putting the house on the market

1148
00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:19,320
Speaker 2: the day after our stuff is gone. Meeting about the

1149
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:21,960
Speaker 2: creation of the LLC. Tomorrow morning, we're going to talk

1150
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:24,600
Speaker 2: to the attorney we've been working with about additional steps

1151
00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:27,080
Speaker 2: to take to protect our privacy. Wife and I only

1152
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:30,200
Speaker 2: have Facebook, which we're both thinking of deleting after the wedding.

1153
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:33,160
Speaker 2: I think it might be time for Scorched Earth and

1154
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:35,680
Speaker 2: there is an edit and a short update. Do you

1155
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:37,880
Speaker 2: have any do any thoughts before we get into this.

1156
00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:40,200
Speaker 4: I don't know if scorched Earth is a good idea.

1157
00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:43,839
Speaker 5: My thoughts scorched the earth, scorch the earth.

1158
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:46,800
Speaker 2: I'm hoping that means when he says scorched earth, he

1159
00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:49,960
Speaker 2: just means like we're going no contact, We're not engaging

1160
00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:52,640
Speaker 2: in any of this really scorched earth revenge.

1161
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:56,239
Speaker 4: I know that's really Yeah, let's remember what your therapists

1162
00:50:56,440 --> 00:51:01,399
Speaker 4: said that. Remember it's not the Jedi way. Yeah, come on, dude, hey,

1163
00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:05,160
Speaker 4: but let's just move on with our lives, right, leave

1164
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:09,000
Speaker 4: her behind, don't eat into her conflict. Yeah.

1165
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:11,680
Speaker 2: She also Avery from the Swamp says, Okay, my husband

1166
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:13,440
Speaker 2: had a rough child and none of his girlfriends before

1167
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:15,680
Speaker 2: I've been abusive another IFI. I think that, Just to

1168
00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:17,759
Speaker 2: be clear, I don't think that's Opie's take. I think

1169
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:21,040
Speaker 2: that was him saying like that's how his mom convinced people. Yeah,

1170
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:23,000
Speaker 2: I think that's or that was like something along the

1171
00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:24,520
Speaker 2: lines of what he was implying there. But there is

1172
00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:27,439
Speaker 2: an update. I spoke with my cousin finally. He said

1173
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:29,920
Speaker 2: he was afraid to call the cops an ambulance because

1174
00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:32,000
Speaker 2: he was afraid I would be arrested if there were

1175
00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:34,839
Speaker 2: any marks on fiance. He realized he effed up as

1176
00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:37,120
Speaker 2: soon as he saw me, but was an adrenaline mode

1177
00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:40,320
Speaker 2: so got defensive. He apologized and showed remorse. I'm not

1178
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:42,880
Speaker 2: afraid to go to my family because of embarrassment or

1179
00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:44,920
Speaker 2: anything like that. I'm just aware of how it well

1180
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:46,759
Speaker 2: look if I try to clear it up. Now, Oh

1181
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:48,160
Speaker 2: did Beyonce find out?

1182
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:48,360
Speaker 3: We know?

1183
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:50,719
Speaker 2: Is she making them say this sort of thing? Many

1184
00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:53,760
Speaker 2: of my relatives still trust Mom because she has gotten

1185
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:56,759
Speaker 2: better at hiding her worst behaviors over the years. The

1186
00:51:56,920 --> 00:51:59,480
Speaker 2: only ones who don't trust her are her siblings, aunt

1187
00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:01,560
Speaker 2: and uncle. We haven't decided for sure what to do

1188
00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:03,200
Speaker 2: with the party. We're going to try and get the

1189
00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:05,239
Speaker 2: date of the courthouse wedding moved up if we can,

1190
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:08,439
Speaker 2: though we already have all the paperwork sorted. We've also

1191
00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:11,360
Speaker 2: already hired security for the party, so in theory it

1192
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:14,160
Speaker 2: wouldn't be an issue anyway. But I'm just not sure.

1193
00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:17,800
Speaker 4: And there is another update, Lucky Update number thirteen.

1194
00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:19,480
Speaker 2: I think this might be our final update.

1195
00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:20,320
Speaker 4: Let's go ahead.

1196
00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:23,280
Speaker 2: The legal stuff with the breaking and entering is moving forward.

1197
00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:25,279
Speaker 2: I can't post much more about it beyond the fact

1198
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:27,520
Speaker 2: that I'm ninety nine percent sure both cousin and Mom

1199
00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:29,680
Speaker 2: are going to plead guilty yance, and I an know

1200
00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:34,160
Speaker 2: they congratulations. It took us seven thousand words to get there,

1201
00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:34,719
Speaker 2: but we got it.

1202
00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:36,320
Speaker 4: Yep, we got it, and we did it.

1203
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:38,560
Speaker 2: You pushed through all of the mom stuff and you

1204
00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:42,319
Speaker 2: got Mary. So unfortunately we couldn't get our time moved up,

1205
00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:45,320
Speaker 2: so it happened on the day we had originally intended yesterday.

1206
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:48,080
Speaker 2: It was quiet and beautiful and someday I'm going to

1207
00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:49,840
Speaker 2: make up this whole mess to her, she tells me

1208
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:51,520
Speaker 2: that I don't have to, but I'm still going to

1209
00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:55,120
Speaker 2: try somehow. We are quietly canceling the whole party. We're

1210
00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:57,200
Speaker 2: losing some money in the process, but we're willing to

1211
00:52:57,280 --> 00:52:59,880
Speaker 2: take the loss. We're planning an intimate honeymoon once we

1212
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:02,000
Speaker 2: get to our new city. Yance sent the news to

1213
00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:04,719
Speaker 2: everyone on the guest list via a mass email, making

1214
00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:07,759
Speaker 2: an excuse about an emergency coming up, or trying to

1215
00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:10,400
Speaker 2: push everything forward as fast as we can, hoping to

1216
00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:13,200
Speaker 2: leave earlier than expect it. Our plans right now are

1217
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:15,799
Speaker 2: to hire some movers, pay them extra to help us

1218
00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:18,000
Speaker 2: pack all night, and we'll put the house up for

1219
00:53:18,080 --> 00:53:19,840
Speaker 2: sale the moment all of our stuff is out. We

1220
00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:22,440
Speaker 2: can make it work. Until then, there are some fantastic

1221
00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:24,160
Speaker 2: rentals that we can get a one year lise on

1222
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:26,440
Speaker 2: in the new city. I mostly feel numb about all

1223
00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:28,440
Speaker 2: of this right now. I didn't realize how much I

1224
00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:32,120
Speaker 2: was running on anger yance. Our wife now has been supportive,

1225
00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:36,200
Speaker 2: though concerned and obviously stressed. I'm hoping I'll swing back around.

1226
00:53:37,239 --> 00:53:42,239
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, unlucky number fourteen. Okay, this is actually the

1227
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:42,799
Speaker 2: final life?

1228
00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:47,240
Speaker 4: Can we swing back around? Just like peace and tranquility.

1229
00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:50,040
Speaker 2: I don't want anything to happen, and I want it

1230
00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:53,120
Speaker 2: to be like, guys, we've been doing great. Five hundred

1231
00:53:53,120 --> 00:53:56,799
Speaker 2: miles away from my mother. We're pregnant now, everything's great.

1232
00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:00,799
Speaker 4: Is the embodiment of tranquility.

1233
00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:05,719
Speaker 3: I've actually achieved Nirvana. Yeah, they've I sat under a

1234
00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:08,600
Speaker 3: Nirvana the band I guess it was.

1235
00:54:08,840 --> 00:54:11,120
Speaker 4: Uh what was the tree? The Buddha tree?

1236
00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:13,680
Speaker 3: I don't I feel like is it a Bodhisatva tree

1237
00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:16,880
Speaker 3: or is that a title for people who are enlightened?

1238
00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:19,560
Speaker 4: I know, buddy Satva's I think it's the title. I

1239
00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:20,959
Speaker 4: think it is. It might be both.

1240
00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:22,520
Speaker 2: I don't know if it was the tree, but I

1241
00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:23,240
Speaker 2: know it's the title.

1242
00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:24,920
Speaker 4: God. Okay, I'm googling, but.

1243
00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:27,799
Speaker 2: There's another update. Hi guys, it's been a while. I'm

1244
00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:29,880
Speaker 2: sorry for the radio silence. That's been a hell of

1245
00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:32,360
Speaker 2: a ride the last few months. I looked back at

1246
00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:36,160
Speaker 2: my last post and was shocked it had been five months.

1247
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:39,080
Speaker 2: It feels like an eternity. The reason I didn't post

1248
00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:41,239
Speaker 2: is that a lot has happened no, and honestly, I

1249
00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:43,160
Speaker 2: felt so drained about the whole thing no that I

1250
00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:46,000
Speaker 2: haven't wanted to post. Plus I've gotten advice from Wayers

1251
00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:48,480
Speaker 2: not to post. Technically I'm still under that advice, so

1252
00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:50,520
Speaker 2: I'm not going to go into detail until things are

1253
00:54:50,560 --> 00:54:53,440
Speaker 2: over and done with. However, I can talk about the results.

1254
00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:58,080
Speaker 2: Mom has been involuntarily checked into a mental facility WHOA.

1255
00:54:58,600 --> 00:55:01,600
Speaker 2: The diagnosis is syria, and some of the doctors won't

1256
00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:03,719
Speaker 2: say if she'll ever be healthy enough to leave. She

1257
00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:07,080
Speaker 2: was involuntarily committed because I'm a serious crime, she's committed,

1258
00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:09,759
Speaker 2: which is what I won't repeat yet. The way things

1259
00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:11,719
Speaker 2: are going, I may be able to give the story soon.

1260
00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:14,800
Speaker 2: But you know what you can do soon listen to

1261
00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:17,920
Speaker 2: full episodes with stories just like this. Just go to Spotify,

1262
00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:21,120
Speaker 2: Apple podcast or iHeartRadio and search a poking story time.

1263
00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:23,440
Speaker 2: But don't do it yet, because we still have a

1264
00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:23,839
Speaker 2: little bit.

1265
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:26,120
Speaker 4: Left of the story. Was it arson? Was I right?

1266
00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:28,920
Speaker 4: Could it have been arson. I think the crime she

1267
00:55:29,040 --> 00:55:30,960
Speaker 4: committed did she try to burn the house down?

1268
00:55:31,120 --> 00:55:33,200
Speaker 2: I feel like it's got to be worse than breaking

1269
00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:34,879
Speaker 2: and entering, because she already kind of did.

1270
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:36,400
Speaker 4: That, she had to have. I think she tried to

1271
00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:37,000
Speaker 4: burn the house down.

1272
00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:40,160
Speaker 3: I think could be right and maybe better time trying

1273
00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:44,280
Speaker 3: fourteen updates if this isn't in there, if the result

1274
00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:46,120
Speaker 3: of her crime is not in there.

1275
00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:49,439
Speaker 4: Oh see, Okay, Now now do we know for sure

1276
00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:51,400
Speaker 4: that she would have done this crime.

1277
00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:55,880
Speaker 3: Had op Nott spitballed if you stopped spitballing on her.

1278
00:55:56,160 --> 00:56:00,280
Speaker 3: Perhaps not, but also perhaps still it's impossible to say

1279
00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:01,200
Speaker 3: it truly is.

1280
00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:05,200
Speaker 4: However, the path of peace is when you must deliberately take.

1281
00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:06,719
Speaker 2: Has that pumpkin been there the whole time?

1282
00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:07,279
Speaker 3: Yes?

1283
00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:10,520
Speaker 2: Is it not like completely rotted?

1284
00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:14,040
Speaker 5: No, grab it it's the wax coating. Grab it, Grab

1285
00:56:14,080 --> 00:56:14,719
Speaker 5: it and look under it.

1286
00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:18,120
Speaker 2: Literally, that's insane.

1287
00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:22,160
Speaker 4: That is kind of that's that's not disturbing, that's not real.

1288
00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:25,560
Speaker 2: It's real. You got a sticker on it.

1289
00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:29,040
Speaker 3: Maybe it's because it's a pumpkin, to truly, so, maybe

1290
00:56:29,080 --> 00:56:32,600
Speaker 3: it's like pumpkin fused with the citrus, so the citrus.

1291
00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:35,200
Speaker 2: Well anyway, there's a little bit left the story.

1292
00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:37,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that's kind of disturbing. Chat.

1293
00:56:37,640 --> 00:56:40,960
Speaker 3: Does anyone know why this pumpkin hasn't rotten rotten, rotted,

1294
00:56:41,360 --> 00:56:42,280
Speaker 3: rotten rotten.

1295
00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:45,200
Speaker 2: My wife and I are both safe, and wife is pregnant.

1296
00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:50,640
Speaker 4: I was right, huzzah pregnant. Why huzza.

1297
00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:53,719
Speaker 2: We hadn't been planning to have children this soon, but

1298
00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:56,200
Speaker 2: we're excited for this little girl to come into our lives.

1299
00:56:56,400 --> 00:56:59,600
Speaker 2: We successfully got a restraining order against mom, and the

1300
00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:01,920
Speaker 2: charge of are serious enough that the cops assured us

1301
00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:04,520
Speaker 2: they will immediately respond if she ever shows up. Life

1302
00:57:04,560 --> 00:57:07,000
Speaker 2: has been good beyond the incident, but I'm in counseling

1303
00:57:07,080 --> 00:57:08,840
Speaker 2: for depression. Wife is in it for.

1304
00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:12,200
Speaker 4: Ptsdire definitely house fired. Dude, that's crazy.

1305
00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:14,440
Speaker 2: It's been a long road, but I think it's over.

1306
00:57:14,719 --> 00:57:17,440
Speaker 2: Things will get better and that is the end of

1307
00:57:17,560 --> 00:57:18,040
Speaker 2: the story.

1308
00:57:19,120 --> 00:57:23,919
Speaker 4: I dropped keon is there an up? We got Yeah,

1309
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:27,280
Speaker 4: but I just need to know if the mom did

1310
00:57:27,720 --> 00:57:28,280
Speaker 4: arson or not?

1311
00:57:28,560 --> 00:57:31,280
Speaker 5: Please exactly think that would have been explained along.

1312
00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:32,120
Speaker 4: I got it.

1313
00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:34,400
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, because he was saying that she

1314
00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:36,400
Speaker 2: got sent into but he couldn't talk about it.

1315
00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:40,760
Speaker 4: Oh wait, wait, I think it's that one. I don't

1316
00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:41,600
Speaker 4: think we read that one.

1317
00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:43,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, we just read it.

1318
00:57:43,400 --> 00:57:43,840
Speaker 3: Dang it.

1319
00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:46,120
Speaker 4: Look at the comments. Go to their comments. Go to

1320
00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:48,240
Speaker 4: their go to their comments, keon, go to go to

1321
00:57:48,320 --> 00:57:49,720
Speaker 4: the Do you know you get this?

1322
00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:50,880
Speaker 5: Because I don't have my right.

1323
00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:55,000
Speaker 4: No one I think.

1324
00:57:57,760 --> 00:58:00,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think so they never updated it. Yeah,

1325
00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:03,880
Speaker 3: I'm gonna guess or wait, well no, that's fine, don't

1326
00:58:03,880 --> 00:58:06,080
Speaker 3: worry better. I'm guessing that, Yeah, she tried to light

1327
00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:09,480
Speaker 3: the house on fire. That's my guess, yorks, that's not

1328
00:58:09,680 --> 00:58:11,960
Speaker 3: because it's also like, there's not a lot of stuff

1329
00:58:12,160 --> 00:58:14,720
Speaker 3: in that context that I can think of that would

1330
00:58:14,760 --> 00:58:16,960
Speaker 3: be that serious that they'd be like, yeah, you might

1331
00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:19,760
Speaker 3: have to actually stay in the inpatient SYCH facility for

1332
00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:22,280
Speaker 3: the foreseeable future.

1333
00:58:22,920 --> 00:58:26,480
Speaker 2: Criminal your poison, Tonic says. Uncarved pumpkin can survive three

1334
00:58:26,520 --> 00:58:28,640
Speaker 2: to six months if placed in a dry, cool place.

1335
00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:29,760
Speaker 2: But it's been six months.

1336
00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:30,520
Speaker 4: It's been six months.

1337
00:58:30,560 --> 00:58:31,320
Speaker 2: It's been six months.

1338
00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:33,080
Speaker 3: So where are we right on the borderline of when

1339
00:58:33,120 --> 00:58:34,520
Speaker 3: it's just like we're gonna come up the next day,

1340
00:58:34,520 --> 00:58:37,040
Speaker 3: it's gonna look like SpongeBob, the rotten SpongeBob food.

1341
00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:39,440
Speaker 4: It has a fog, horn because all the other.

1342
00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:42,280
Speaker 2: Ones rotten like months ago, and I didn't even realize

1343
00:58:42,280 --> 00:58:42,880
Speaker 2: that was still there.

1344
00:58:43,240 --> 00:58:44,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's kind of scary.

1345
00:58:44,280 --> 00:58:46,560
Speaker 3: Scary, it's making me, it's making me question, what is

1346
00:58:46,600 --> 00:58:49,280
Speaker 3: there anything else around that could become viciously