WEBVTT - “I LIVE IN A CAVE”

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, It's so amazing to talk to you. Finally. I

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<v Speaker 1>tried to call so many times.

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<v Speaker 2>What's your name, sir?

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<v Speaker 1>I can go by caveman, but you can also give

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<v Speaker 1>me a name, and like, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Like cave man. Where are you calling from? Cave man?

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<v Speaker 1>From the actual cave.

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<v Speaker 2>You're calling from a cave.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, the cave.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you're a caveman and you're calling from the cave.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I do. I'm calling from the cave. Is there

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<v Speaker 1>sound quality? Okay, I can go my other cave that

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<v Speaker 1>is a little bit less windy.

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<v Speaker 2>You have hold on, hold on, slow down from my brother.

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<v Speaker 2>You have two caves, yeah, yeah, I do. In this economy,

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<v Speaker 2>like you have two caves.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah. And there's a lot of free apartments. So

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<v Speaker 1>if anyone want to join, come in.

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<v Speaker 2>I think people need to. I think the people need

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<v Speaker 2>to get to know you a little bit before they

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<v Speaker 2>take you up on your offer to live in a

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<v Speaker 2>cave with you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is like a free space for

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<v Speaker 1>everyone who know of it.

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<v Speaker 2>And yeah, are you or are you friends?

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<v Speaker 1>No? I am Polish originally, but now I'm in Teneris.

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<v Speaker 1>That is the this is the island that is a

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<v Speaker 1>part of Spain, and yeah, I'm cheating. I'm homeless and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm living in the cave.

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<v Speaker 2>You are living in a cave on an island in Spain, Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>I do. The phone reception is quite The phone reception

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<v Speaker 2>there is quite good.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh that's great. Yeah, I'm pretty high on the like

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<v Speaker 1>the mountain. So yeah, so I'm glad.

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<v Speaker 2>Interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh I'm a little bit shaking. I am very stressed

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<v Speaker 1>out by this phone call. I didn't thought I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>get in and I'm really happy to talk to you finally.

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<v Speaker 2>Brother, you live in a cave. How are you getting

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<v Speaker 2>stressed out about a phone call?

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<v Speaker 3>Right?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Phone calls are hard, and also I really want

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<v Speaker 1>to talk to you. And I like listen to pretty

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<v Speaker 1>much all of your podcasts. I'm there, I'm searching in

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<v Speaker 1>the Spotify and I'm like a only if you left listen.

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<v Speaker 2>To m Yeah, I got a bunch of texts from

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<v Speaker 2>you on the Google voice line where you were. You

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<v Speaker 2>were talking about yes, cave thing, and I never I

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<v Speaker 2>never called you back because I wanted to wait for

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<v Speaker 2>the time to be right. But here we are, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm very curious about this whole cave thing. So what's

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<v Speaker 2>your story? Cave man. How did you end up living

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<v Speaker 2>in a cave?

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<v Speaker 1>Hmmm, it's a kind of long story, like my whole

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<v Speaker 1>life like contributed to uh to me being in this place. Ah,

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<v Speaker 1>So do you want to like the whole life story

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<v Speaker 1>or just how I know about this place and why

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<v Speaker 1>I live here?

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<v Speaker 2>Right now, let's do the whole life story. This is uh,

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<v Speaker 2>this might this could end up being a whole podcast

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<v Speaker 2>worth of uh information here. I'm I'm I'm down to

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<v Speaker 2>hear it. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I listened to the guy.

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<v Speaker 2>Like to you.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh fuck, I listened to the recently the podcast you

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<v Speaker 1>did with the guy who like travel over around the

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<v Speaker 1>world and and done some crazy shit with some airplanes

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<v Speaker 1>and that was so crazy. And yeah, I am kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like this guy. I want to be like this guy.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to travel the world. All right. So I

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<v Speaker 1>am currently twenty years old. I'm gonna be twenty one

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<v Speaker 1>in in a month in May. And oh, I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm very stressed out, very fonko. So I am. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>an orphan and I'm autistic. So this is the two

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<v Speaker 1>biggest things that I think contributed. Being autistic and being

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<v Speaker 1>an orphan. And so my father died when I was twelve,

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<v Speaker 1>and my mother when I was fifteen, and I pretty

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<v Speaker 1>much my whole life was kind of and I was

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<v Speaker 1>kind of on my own, and I was taking care

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<v Speaker 1>of my little brother brother, and I was living with

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<v Speaker 1>my grandma for a while. And when I was eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>and I finished school, I moved out to the bigger

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<v Speaker 1>city and did that for a few months. But the

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<v Speaker 1>depression was crumbling me to the dust. And like two

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<v Speaker 1>years ago I kind of explored more like alternative communities

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<v Speaker 1>people and I discovered that the tenor If and the

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<v Speaker 1>people told me about the Tenerif and the case and

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<v Speaker 1>that people live here in the middle of nowhere sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>and I wanted to try it out, so I did

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<v Speaker 1>five months ago. I've been here for sixteen days, sixteen

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<v Speaker 1>based like check it out, and it was cool. It

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<v Speaker 1>was very cool. And when the life in the in

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<v Speaker 1>Poland like crumbled because of the depression and of the cold,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was I am, yeah, I'm kind of stressed out.

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<v Speaker 1>I decided to leave everything behind me, school, money, everything,

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<v Speaker 1>and I just I'm just living in a case and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm having fun.

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<v Speaker 2>So on this island, do you live alone in this case?

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<v Speaker 2>Does anyone else live on this island.

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<v Speaker 1>No, there's a lot of people on this island. It's

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<v Speaker 1>very touristy islands, and there's also local people that lives

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<v Speaker 1>here and they don't really like tourists because hotels are everywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>And yeah, there's a lot of people living in the

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<v Speaker 1>cave in the place I am. I'm not gonna like

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<v Speaker 1>specify the city because I don't want to like who.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to get too much attention for the

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<v Speaker 1>people who live there because they want to live in

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<v Speaker 1>the peace.

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<v Speaker 2>So you live Do you live alone in this cave

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<v Speaker 2>or are there other people living in the cave?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm living alone. There's a lot of like caves

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<v Speaker 1>near me, but in my sport it don't have really neighbors.

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<v Speaker 1>I have one guy who has like communal cave when

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people like the eye and we cook

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<v Speaker 1>food and we like hang out together. But I am

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<v Speaker 1>pretty much alone and I really need that to to

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<v Speaker 1>get more impendent independent of myself. And I have like

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<v Speaker 1>solar panels and yeah, I'm doing okay, mm hmmmm.

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<v Speaker 2>Mm hmmm. So what do you Yeah, what's the setup

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<v Speaker 2>like in this cave? Do you pay? Do you are

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<v Speaker 2>you just like squatting in this cave, Like, how'd you

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<v Speaker 2>find the cave? What's the square footage the cave? What

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<v Speaker 2>do you how much do you pay for rent in

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<v Speaker 2>the cave? What's what's the what's the rundown exactly?

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<v Speaker 1>And so yeah, you need to find it. There's like

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<v Speaker 1>caves that are already built by someone and they just

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<v Speaker 1>left out because a lot of people come here in

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<v Speaker 1>the winter and then go back to their countries when

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<v Speaker 1>it starts to get too warm. There are some people

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<v Speaker 1>who live on this island the whole air because the

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<v Speaker 1>temperature doesn't really go more than ten degrees sales use

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I know you use fineheit late, I know,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Yeah, so I found myself a cave.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it's a hole in the rock. So this

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<v Speaker 1>kind of cave and Polish there's two different words for

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<v Speaker 1>like because the cave is deeper deeper and you can

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<v Speaker 1>like go in the tunnels and this is like a

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<v Speaker 1>hole in the rock? Is it? Do you have like

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<v Speaker 1>words or it? In English?

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<v Speaker 2>We have Do I have a word for a hole

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<v Speaker 2>in a rock?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? I think there's like two words for it, and

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<v Speaker 1>one is a cave. Everybody called it cave here. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's a cave pretty much.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I yeah, a hole in a rock. That sounds

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<v Speaker 2>I guess that's what a cave is. It's a hole

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<v Speaker 2>in a big in a rock. That's probably not true

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<v Speaker 2>at all, but okay, So do you have a bed

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<v Speaker 2>in this cave or do you sleep on the floor?

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<v Speaker 1>I found too mattresses and I actually this is a

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<v Speaker 1>better mattress than I have in than I had in Poland.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's pretty comfy. I found a lot of it's

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<v Speaker 1>pretty cozy. It's very cozy. And creating my own like

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<v Speaker 1>personal space from the things I found it in the

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<v Speaker 1>trash was amazing. And I love to live here and

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<v Speaker 1>spending time here to draw, hang out with friends that

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<v Speaker 1>I invite. Yeah, this is a very cool space.

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<v Speaker 2>M hm hmm. See you have friends on this island.

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<v Speaker 2>You're not like alone. You sound like you have a

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<v Speaker 2>pretty good life on this island. You're not alone. You

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<v Speaker 2>have homies, you have you have cave nights. You have

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<v Speaker 2>board game night at the cave.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we didn't have a board games, but we sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>play chest chess.

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<v Speaker 2>As a board game. Yeah it is all right, So

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<v Speaker 2>all right, so I I here's the thing. What's your

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<v Speaker 2>cave man, I'm gonna play a cave man. Yeah, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>still trying to get a picture of what you're like.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to imagine what the cave looks like.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So, so.

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<v Speaker 2>How do you eat? Like we eat? What food do

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<v Speaker 2>you consume?

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<v Speaker 1>I eat from the trash?

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<v Speaker 2>Are you serious?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>You eat from the trash man? Like yeah, yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>so other people so other people, like like I said,

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<v Speaker 2>there's a big tourist the island, right, So, like folks

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<v Speaker 2>come and they waste a bunch of food and you

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<v Speaker 2>go dumpster diving and you and you get food from

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<v Speaker 2>the trash.

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<v Speaker 1>And basically, yeah, I don't go to like normal trush

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<v Speaker 1>when you can fight like everywhere from the homes or

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<v Speaker 1>the hotels. But they go to like big market shops

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<v Speaker 1>and they throw out like a lot a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>stuff because the packaging or damage or it's like one

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<v Speaker 1>or two days out of date and they cannot sell it.

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<v Speaker 1>You would be surprised how much food is waste. Yesterday,

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<v Speaker 1>I've been with my friends who just visited me two

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<v Speaker 1>days ago, and we were on the on the dumpster

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<v Speaker 1>diving mission and we found like a block of cheeseichi

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how to say it properly, and some

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<v Speaker 1>chiesa and mozzarella cheese and old spinach, bananas and yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>some veggies, a lot, a lot of stuff. And I

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<v Speaker 1>yesterday I made like nyoki with tomatoes with the heavy

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<v Speaker 1>cream sauce, spinach and most and three types of cheeses.

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<v Speaker 1>So I eat pretty good.

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<v Speaker 2>Mm hmmm mm hmmmm. So you have friends that visit.

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<v Speaker 2>So these friends that were visiting, are they friends from Poland?

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<v Speaker 2>Or these are friends from the island that you made.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a lot of friends from different countries. Is

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<v Speaker 1>that I had. I had a friend with I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>call her Sky because she wears all blue. She is

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like a sky. And she's very hard to

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<v Speaker 1>talk to get the contact with her because she doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>use any sort of media and she's only using the text.

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<v Speaker 1>And we have seen each other like three times in

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<v Speaker 1>my life. And I just thought about about her and

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<v Speaker 1>I called her and I told her, Hey, mom, I

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<v Speaker 1>do you want to come? And she yeah, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>visit you for a month. And so yeah, she she's here.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh cool. Yeah, So you have a friend, you have

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<v Speaker 2>a friend who's staying with you for a month.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, basically I'm gonna give her much in my one

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<v Speaker 1>cave like or just her. But today we we are

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<v Speaker 1>sleeping together because there was big grain and we need

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<v Speaker 1>to like my one of my I'm sorry, I'm so

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<v Speaker 1>stressed out. I had this whole conversation out in my mind.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought about calling you so many do me, do me?

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<v Speaker 2>Do me here? Listen, cave man, do me do me

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<v Speaker 2>a favor? Haven't this listen? I know you said you

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<v Speaker 2>had this whole conversation planned out in your mind. But

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<v Speaker 2>abandon your plan. Abandon whatever you had planned out in

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<v Speaker 2>your mind.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm just curious about I have. I have a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of uh just I mean, you live in a

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<v Speaker 2>cave man. I have a lot of questions. Yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you don't have to We don't. We don't have to

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<v Speaker 2>follow any kind of plan. We can just we can

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<v Speaker 2>just chit chat. Brother, There's nothing to be stressed out about.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, when I like, have I want to, I'm like

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<v Speaker 1>answer questions. I don't want to talk too much on

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<v Speaker 1>my own because I'm gonna lose myself completely.

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<v Speaker 2>So okay, so you dumpstered up? So do you? Okay?

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<v Speaker 2>So I assume you don't like, uh uh, do you

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<v Speaker 2>do you work on the island?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you?

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<v Speaker 2>Or are you kind of knowing like no money life, pretty.

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<v Speaker 1>Much no money life. I have some money saved up,

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<v Speaker 1>not a lot, but it's enough to survive. So if

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<v Speaker 1>I need like buy toilet paper and there's no food

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<v Speaker 1>in the trush, I am I can buy some foods

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<v Speaker 1>and book low effort meal.

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<v Speaker 2>Mm hmmm mm hmm. What's the weather like on this

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<v Speaker 2>on this islands?

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<v Speaker 1>Now, it's a rainy season and there's one cloud like

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<v Speaker 1>small and the sky is all blow So this is

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<v Speaker 1>how it is on this part of the island. There

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<v Speaker 1>are I think seven or eight rainy days in the

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<v Speaker 1>whole year, and today was the one that was rainy.

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<v Speaker 1>Mm hmm. Yeah, I know if it's kind of kind

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<v Speaker 1>of cool if like climate wise, because one part of

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<v Speaker 1>the island is pretty much dry and you have like

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<v Speaker 1>cacti everywhere and it's sand and it's pretty much better.

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<v Speaker 1>And the other side is kind of like subtropical and

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<v Speaker 1>their rain is like more present, and also you have trees,

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<v Speaker 1>you have like pretty much little jungle.

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<v Speaker 4>Hmm.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you do all day?

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<v Speaker 3>M hm h.

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<v Speaker 1>Vibing, chilling, don't. I'm not stressing about anything really, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's a physical change from my life in the past

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<v Speaker 1>few years. M m hmm.

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<v Speaker 2>What what was your life like in the past few years?

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<v Speaker 1>Chaotic and with a lot of personal growth. So, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm pretty young. I'm only twenty so and I finished

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<v Speaker 1>school and I am a veterinary technician. And then and

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<v Speaker 1>then I moved out to the bigger city mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 1>And I lived in a few places and start living

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<v Speaker 1>with my good friends and that was cooled to experience,

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<v Speaker 1>like having living with actual, actual friends and and yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but I was fucking depressed all the time.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, why do you think you were fucking depressed all

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<v Speaker 2>the time?

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<v Speaker 1>Hmmm. I didn't have a purpose and I the thing is,

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<v Speaker 1>the most hard depression I had was like when the

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<v Speaker 1>winter started and I like finished finished my veterinary school,

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<v Speaker 1>and I moved out to the bigger city, and I

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<v Speaker 1>am an orphan so until I am twenty five. I

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<v Speaker 1>get the money from the government if if I am

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<v Speaker 1>in the school system, so if I'm learning, I'm getting

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<v Speaker 1>the money in So I went to like school when

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<v Speaker 1>I had two days of actual learning, and then twelve

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<v Speaker 1>days at twelve twelve days of free time, and I

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<v Speaker 1>still get I was still getting the money, and the

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<v Speaker 1>money was enough to don't work and just lay on

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<v Speaker 1>my ass all day. And yeah, I didn't have space

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<v Speaker 1>for like exploring my free time. And I was just

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<v Speaker 1>sitting on my ass and lotting on my phone and

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<v Speaker 1>it was so fucking depressing. So I needed to make

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<v Speaker 1>a big change. And here I am looking on a

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<v Speaker 1>beautiful mountain right now, and when I turned my head around,

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<v Speaker 1>there's an ocean.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you feel good about your big change?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this is probably one of the best decisions I

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<v Speaker 1>made in my life.

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<v Speaker 2>Mm hmm. Do you think about the future, Do you

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<v Speaker 2>think about what you want to do or kind of

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<v Speaker 2>what your life a lot will be like in the future.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>When you think about the future, what kind of thoughts

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<v Speaker 2>do you have?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Yeah, all the time, all the time. And it's

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<v Speaker 1>pretty interesting in with how many in how many ways

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<v Speaker 1>you can like experience life. And yeah, like I'm thinking

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<v Speaker 1>about maybe buying a van, maybe go to work and

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<v Speaker 1>save the money to buy a piece of land. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>here the land here it's it's very terristic, so it's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of expensive. But there's also other islands. Because this

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<v Speaker 1>is the group called Canary Islands and you can fight

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<v Speaker 1>some you can find some like small piece of land

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<v Speaker 1>that you can like grow fruits and build like small

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<v Speaker 1>small house, and that would be cool to have. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if I'm so sorry about my English

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<v Speaker 1>and meaning so stress out and I feel like I'm swallowing,

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<v Speaker 1>swollowing my tongue all the time. Thank you, thank you, gig. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm feeling a lot how you can experience life and

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<v Speaker 1>about the many ways you can live it, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>pretty excited about it. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, shit, man, you're fucking you're only twenty.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you have so much life to experience. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that's the thing, man, is there are infinite ways to

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<v Speaker 2>experience life. It can be a little overwhelming sometimes, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>finding there are pretty infinite ways to experience life. I

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<v Speaker 2>can be pretty overwhelming sometimes, but I mean, I'm just

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<v Speaker 2>I'm glad to hear that you found you're finding some

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<v Speaker 2>kind of you know, it sounds like you you have

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I know you say you're stressed out on

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<v Speaker 2>this phone call, but is it is it fair to

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<v Speaker 2>say that you generally feel.

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<v Speaker 1>Peaceful for the first time in my life? I think, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's wonderful. I feel I feel peaceful. My friends, like

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<v Speaker 1>maybe an hour ago send me some sort of like

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<v Speaker 1>out eating chart when when you have like the problems

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<v Speaker 1>that autistic people struggle with. And she told me to

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<v Speaker 1>feel it out and she's gonna feel it out with me.

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<v Speaker 1>And it was in the like depression, anxiety, social, social

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<v Speaker 1>skills and all that in the current season. And I

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<v Speaker 1>filled it up and I was looking at the chart

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<v Speaker 1>and I thought to myself, holy fuck, I improved so

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<v Speaker 1>much and life is so great, and it would do

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<v Speaker 1>so great decision. And when I filled it up, I

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<v Speaker 1>made another one and I thought about the time and

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<v Speaker 1>before getting on the island.

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<v Speaker 3>And it was yeah, it was awful.

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<v Speaker 2>Mm hmmmm. So you you filled out this chart, so

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<v Speaker 2>you noticed a lot of significant positive like changes in

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<v Speaker 2>your brain and life since moving to the islands.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, mm hmm, it sounds.

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<v Speaker 2>Like you've got a good It's funny because I guess

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<v Speaker 2>when I first I was reading your text about living

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<v Speaker 2>in a cave, I thought you were living kind of

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<v Speaker 2>isolated life. But you actually seem like you have a

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<v Speaker 2>good sense of community out there.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I have pretty much. Yeah, there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>friends that I've met here, and also a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>friends that I met on like because I mean, like

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<v Speaker 1>I think social bubble of alternative people, of hippie people,

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<v Speaker 1>so I met a lot a lot of them in

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<v Speaker 1>the past years or like festivals, and I yeah, so

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't even know that a lot of my friends

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<v Speaker 1>are gonna be here. And I remember the first day

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<v Speaker 1>that I arrived here, my friends that lives in the

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<v Speaker 1>island now I think for the five months picked me out.

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<v Speaker 1>We were going to uh to the play to the

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<v Speaker 1>area where the caves are. And I've met like six

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<v Speaker 1>people that I already know and I didn't know they

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<v Speaker 1>are going to be on the island.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, wait a minute, So there are people that

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<v Speaker 2>you already knew and you didn't and then you didn't

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<v Speaker 2>know they were going to be on the island when

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<v Speaker 2>you got there.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the people that I met on the festivals, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean not really my big friends, but yeah, the people

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<v Speaker 1>that I know, and I like, interesting, what.

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<v Speaker 2>Kind of festivals are they? Just are these just like

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<v Speaker 2>music festivals.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm kind of kind of yeah, music courses. I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to a lot like small festivals, maybe too up to

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<v Speaker 1>two hundreds, four hundred people and mostly they are like

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<v Speaker 1>in the nature and you can.

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<v Speaker 3>Find a lot of people hippie people.

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<v Speaker 1>Doing acid and ship yeah, and laying and rolling on

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<v Speaker 1>the grass. Mm hm m hmm.

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<v Speaker 2>That's interesting. How old are most of the people on

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<v Speaker 2>this island, because you're pretty young. Is everyone else also

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<v Speaker 2>around your age or is it kind.

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<v Speaker 1>Of I'm I'm I'm the youngest one of the people

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<v Speaker 1>they've met. I mean the people that lives on this island,

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<v Speaker 1>and nor like in the hippi a on the caves

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<v Speaker 1>or some like uh squats or anything. Is this squat?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it the proper way to say it?

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<v Speaker 2>Sure?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, people squatting some yeah, yeah. Yeah. There's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of types of people coming here here, like hippie people.

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<v Speaker 1>Basically all the people that are coming here are kind

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<v Speaker 1>of out of normal social nons. So you can find

0:28:14.240 --> 0:28:20.240
<v Speaker 1>like happy hippie people and also more like actual homeless people.

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<v Speaker 1>Some of them are like drag addicts or something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>So also the age age range differs a lot, but

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<v Speaker 1>most of them, most of them are like in the

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<v Speaker 1>late twenties and thirties, I would say maybe twenties, twenties

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<v Speaker 1>meet to late twenties.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you see yourself staying on this island, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>pretty indefinitely.

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, no, I mean I love it and I

0:29:03.640 --> 0:29:10.360
<v Speaker 1>needed that. I'm sorry for my tongue. Yeah, I needed that.

0:29:10.880 --> 0:29:16.280
<v Speaker 1>I needed that for for a while. But I am

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<v Speaker 1>kind of stouked and I'm excited about and returning to Poland.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think I'm gonna go back in like months

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<v Speaker 1>or two, and then I'm gonna travel around Europe and

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<v Speaker 1>visit some people in different countries that I met here.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm gonna go to Croatia, I'm gonna go to Hungary,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm gonna go to Norway, and I think I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna just visit places in the in between. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's very cool. And also yeah, and I'm gonna return

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<v Speaker 1>the festivals in to the festival season in Poland. There's

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<v Speaker 1>all lot of like cool small festivals in nature and

0:30:05.640 --> 0:30:08.320
<v Speaker 1>they are so beautiful and I love folk music.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah hmm, that sounds awesome. That sounds really cool. Do

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<v Speaker 2>you do any kind of art or music or anything

0:30:20.360 --> 0:30:22.000
<v Speaker 2>like that. Do you make anything?

0:30:24.600 --> 0:30:30.720
<v Speaker 1>I bought myself some watercolors, autocolor points, and I bought

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<v Speaker 1>myself some pencils because I want to explore that I

0:30:34.680 --> 0:30:37.720
<v Speaker 1>want to create. I have like a very strong desire

0:30:37.840 --> 0:30:43.160
<v Speaker 1>to create, create anything basically, so I have a lot

0:30:43.200 --> 0:30:45.760
<v Speaker 1>of time to explore that, and I started to draw.

0:30:46.080 --> 0:30:52.040
<v Speaker 1>It's nothing really crazy, but it's the whole process is

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<v Speaker 1>very enjoyable. And I didn't I had time in like

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<v Speaker 1>in when I was living in Poland, but I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>have like strength to do anything new and to grow

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<v Speaker 1>like as a human being. Mm yeah, pretty cool vacation.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, let me see here, cave man, let me Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>why don't we do this? We've got the live twitch

0:31:25.760 --> 0:31:28.720
<v Speaker 2>chat here. Let's see. I'm sure that people in the

0:31:28.720 --> 0:31:32.440
<v Speaker 2>twitch chat probably have a few questions. If anyone in

0:31:32.480 --> 0:31:35.880
<v Speaker 2>the twitch chat wants to, I'll read them out to you.

0:31:36.160 --> 0:31:39.840
<v Speaker 2>If anyone in the twitch chat has any any questions

0:31:39.880 --> 0:31:44.880
<v Speaker 2>for you. Let's see here they're talking about how the

0:31:44.960 --> 0:31:47.480
<v Speaker 2>new call of duty is bad? What the fuck?

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<v Speaker 4>All?

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<v Speaker 1>Right?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh? Okay? Someone said, does the cave stay the same

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<v Speaker 2>temperature year round or is there ore there different seasons?

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<v Speaker 4>Uh?

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<v Speaker 1>In this part of island, it's pretty much hot all

0:32:03.520 --> 0:32:08.640
<v Speaker 1>the all, all time around. Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>Someone said, uh, do you smash a lot of cave chicks? M?

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, no, I know this is not my thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh do you do you ever cook anything? Or you

0:32:28.680 --> 0:32:30.320
<v Speaker 2>just straight eating leftovers?

0:32:32.080 --> 0:32:36.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Yeah, yesterday I made yoki and I shared them

0:32:37.000 --> 0:32:43.080
<v Speaker 1>with friends and it was pretty pretty delicious. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I love to cook and I wanna explore like cooking

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<v Speaker 1>more in my life. Yeah. When I'm gonna like return

0:32:52.880 --> 0:32:55.840
<v Speaker 1>to point, I think in September, I'm gonna get my

0:32:55.880 --> 0:33:02.360
<v Speaker 1>own place. I wanna like buy a lot of new

0:33:03.120 --> 0:33:07.200
<v Speaker 1>kitchen stuff, and they want to cook, Like I always

0:33:07.240 --> 0:33:12.000
<v Speaker 1>loved cooking, and cooking for people was like my big passion.

0:33:12.320 --> 0:33:17.760
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I want to cook more and to explore that.

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<v Speaker 2>Someone said, could you describe the cave please? I know

0:33:22.960 --> 0:33:25.400
<v Speaker 2>you've already kind of done that a little bit, but

0:33:25.480 --> 0:33:27.680
<v Speaker 2>if you just want to look around the cave and

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<v Speaker 2>really give us a solid description of what exactly we

0:33:32.360 --> 0:33:33.360
<v Speaker 2>should be imagining.

0:33:35.480 --> 0:33:40.400
<v Speaker 1>Huh. So, it's kind of like a sandstone kind of

0:33:40.440 --> 0:33:44.320
<v Speaker 1>volcanic rock. I mean, there's a lot of very a

0:33:44.400 --> 0:33:52.440
<v Speaker 1>little bit about variations. Hmmm. I've built like a little

0:33:52.640 --> 0:33:58.560
<v Speaker 1>roof with with plastic pipes and some sort of like

0:33:58.720 --> 0:34:02.560
<v Speaker 1>material that I found. I have like small table, I

0:34:02.640 --> 0:34:06.160
<v Speaker 1>have a pretty cool mattress, a lot of pillows, a

0:34:06.200 --> 0:34:11.520
<v Speaker 1>lot of pillows and it's so comfy here and very

0:34:11.600 --> 0:34:18.440
<v Speaker 1>pretty blanket, and yeah, that's a good discussion.

0:34:18.680 --> 0:34:21.719
<v Speaker 2>No, no, no, someone said, let's see. Oh, someone said,

0:34:21.719 --> 0:34:24.120
<v Speaker 2>where is his brother? Did you mention having a brother?

0:34:25.800 --> 0:34:30.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I have a little pattern that I was raising, Yeah,

0:34:30.440 --> 0:34:36.279
<v Speaker 1>kind of. So so he's still living with my grandma.

0:34:36.960 --> 0:34:45.160
<v Speaker 1>He is sixteen right now, and he yeah, he's depressed

0:34:45.160 --> 0:34:50.040
<v Speaker 1>as fuck. I like, I see myself in him so much,

0:34:50.160 --> 0:34:53.960
<v Speaker 1>and I am. Yeah, I'm thinking a lot about him,

0:34:54.320 --> 0:34:59.200
<v Speaker 1>and I'm feeling kind of guilty about not being there

0:34:59.440 --> 0:35:04.319
<v Speaker 1>with him m hmm and not helping him because I

0:35:04.560 --> 0:35:07.080
<v Speaker 1>see a lot of things that he struggles with that

0:35:07.160 --> 0:35:11.760
<v Speaker 1>I struggle my whole life, like being not very social,

0:35:12.880 --> 0:35:21.640
<v Speaker 1>being like mm, especially in my younger younger years, being

0:35:21.880 --> 0:35:29.280
<v Speaker 1>like black sheep in any social situation. And he doesn't

0:35:29.320 --> 0:35:35.720
<v Speaker 1>have like any purpose or passion. So yeah, mm hmmm.

0:35:38.120 --> 0:35:39.719
<v Speaker 2>Do you still do you keep in touch with him

0:35:39.840 --> 0:35:42.360
<v Speaker 2>very often, like with text or call or anything like that.

0:35:47.160 --> 0:35:52.800
<v Speaker 1>We had like a two month's break and yeah, we

0:35:53.000 --> 0:35:55.399
<v Speaker 1>called each other and we were talking for an hour,

0:35:56.800 --> 0:36:01.279
<v Speaker 1>and yeah, I told him that I felt felt very

0:36:01.320 --> 0:36:08.319
<v Speaker 1>guilty about not reaching out and that our relationship is

0:36:09.520 --> 0:36:17.120
<v Speaker 1>not not really there and that I see the things

0:36:17.160 --> 0:36:19.880
<v Speaker 1>that he struggles with, and I said that I cannot

0:36:20.040 --> 0:36:21.760
<v Speaker 1>like be there and help.

0:36:23.120 --> 0:36:23.480
<v Speaker 2>Mm hmm.

0:36:24.200 --> 0:36:27.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:36:27.040 --> 0:36:30.239
<v Speaker 2>Would you ever have him come visit the come visit

0:36:30.280 --> 0:36:31.200
<v Speaker 2>the Cave Islands?

0:36:32.480 --> 0:36:36.799
<v Speaker 1>I would love to. I would love to that. Yeah,

0:36:36.840 --> 0:36:44.000
<v Speaker 1>he's in school, so and I'm gonna get to Europe

0:36:44.800 --> 0:36:50.240
<v Speaker 1>before the summer starts. So but maybe next year, maybe

0:36:50.239 --> 0:36:53.479
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna go to a little vacation together. That would

0:36:53.480 --> 0:36:53.839
<v Speaker 1>be great.

0:36:56.680 --> 0:37:00.440
<v Speaker 2>Uh, let's see here, Okay, we have some wants to know.

0:37:00.480 --> 0:37:03.239
<v Speaker 2>Do you have a bed? I was wondering that too.

0:37:06.560 --> 0:37:06.799
<v Speaker 3>Bed.

0:37:07.719 --> 0:37:08.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, do you have a bed?

0:37:09.960 --> 0:37:13.439
<v Speaker 1>I mean I have a mattress. This is a bed. Yeah,

0:37:13.719 --> 0:37:17.400
<v Speaker 1>I don't have like a bed frame, but yeah, this

0:37:17.560 --> 0:37:18.560
<v Speaker 1>is pretty much bad.

0:37:19.960 --> 0:37:21.640
<v Speaker 2>Are there bats in the cave?

0:37:24.120 --> 0:37:28.040
<v Speaker 1>But no, there are no bats here that I know of.

0:37:29.840 --> 0:37:32.520
<v Speaker 2>What is your pooping situation looking like in this cave?

0:37:34.960 --> 0:37:39.720
<v Speaker 1>Pretty chill? I have a So I leave, like canyon

0:37:39.960 --> 0:37:44.560
<v Speaker 1>canyon isn't the right worthy canyon we call it's called

0:37:44.560 --> 0:37:48.160
<v Speaker 1>the baranco here. So I look pretty high up and

0:37:48.600 --> 0:37:51.279
<v Speaker 1>I just go down a little and I dig like

0:37:51.400 --> 0:37:55.840
<v Speaker 1>a long hole. So if I need to go, I

0:37:56.040 --> 0:38:00.560
<v Speaker 1>just do my stuff covered with the with the hands

0:38:00.960 --> 0:38:01.520
<v Speaker 1>and I'm good.

0:38:03.120 --> 0:38:05.640
<v Speaker 2>Someone wants to know what is the best thing you

0:38:05.719 --> 0:38:09.520
<v Speaker 2>have found in the trash so far in your dumpster

0:38:09.640 --> 0:38:11.880
<v Speaker 2>diving days.

0:38:12.160 --> 0:38:18.080
<v Speaker 1>Oh, yes, yesterday I found a new power bank that

0:38:18.120 --> 0:38:22.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm actually now charging my phone with. It has like

0:38:22.360 --> 0:38:28.360
<v Speaker 1>solar panel built in and it's it has twenty twenty

0:38:28.360 --> 0:38:31.440
<v Speaker 1>five million million.

0:38:32.160 --> 0:38:32.399
<v Speaker 4>Wow.

0:38:33.360 --> 0:38:36.040
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. It starts a lot of energy. It's cool.

0:38:36.400 --> 0:38:42.040
<v Speaker 1>And I found two pairs of boots, so that's cool.

0:38:42.840 --> 0:38:49.480
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, lots of cool stuff. I'm so like, still

0:38:49.520 --> 0:38:53.560
<v Speaker 1>stressed out about talking and that I am. I cannot

0:38:53.560 --> 0:38:54.480
<v Speaker 1>really think of that.

0:38:55.200 --> 0:38:59.239
<v Speaker 2>We've been, We've been, We've been. We've been cooking for

0:38:59.239 --> 0:39:02.840
<v Speaker 2>forty minutes, doing great, brother, thank you for offering offering

0:39:02.880 --> 0:39:05.120
<v Speaker 2>the people your time. You have a very interesting story.

0:39:07.200 --> 0:39:08.360
<v Speaker 1>Thank you, Thank you.

0:39:08.880 --> 0:39:10.640
<v Speaker 2>I have a few more questions for you if you're

0:39:10.640 --> 0:39:14.640
<v Speaker 2>still down to cook. We've got some interesting questions here. Yeah,

0:39:14.719 --> 0:39:18.600
<v Speaker 2>someone said, has a stranger ever just walked in the cave?

0:39:21.360 --> 0:39:21.480
<v Speaker 5>Mm?

0:39:21.560 --> 0:39:21.640
<v Speaker 2>Hm.

0:39:22.280 --> 0:39:31.120
<v Speaker 1>The people that live in the area pretty much go

0:39:31.280 --> 0:39:37.680
<v Speaker 1>by the uh social law. I don't know if it's

0:39:38.160 --> 0:39:42.080
<v Speaker 1>social law, I don't know how to call it. But

0:39:42.840 --> 0:39:48.160
<v Speaker 1>no one ever like goes to any one place without

0:39:49.040 --> 0:39:55.120
<v Speaker 1>without permission, and yeah we are Yeah, we're good. We're good.

0:39:55.440 --> 0:39:58.120
<v Speaker 1>There's no problem with no problems with got.

0:39:59.680 --> 0:40:04.160
<v Speaker 2>Uh. Let's see here. Oh yeah, do you have like

0:40:04.320 --> 0:40:05.920
<v Speaker 2>water or gas in the cave?

0:40:09.160 --> 0:40:12.440
<v Speaker 1>I don't have water. I have a tab that I

0:40:12.520 --> 0:40:16.440
<v Speaker 1>go to and it's like ten minutes from here. And

0:40:16.520 --> 0:40:20.480
<v Speaker 1>also like fifteen minutes from my place, there's a little

0:40:20.600 --> 0:40:24.319
<v Speaker 1>so if I need to buy drinking water, I can

0:40:24.440 --> 0:40:28.600
<v Speaker 1>just by like sixteen meters, get them to my backpack

0:40:28.600 --> 0:40:32.799
<v Speaker 1>and walk here. And I didn't have a gas. I

0:40:32.880 --> 0:40:36.840
<v Speaker 1>have a fireplace and I have some pots that I found,

0:40:37.080 --> 0:40:39.680
<v Speaker 1>so if I need to cook something, I just chip shoop.

0:40:40.440 --> 0:40:44.520
<v Speaker 2>All right, we got one. I'll do one last question here.

0:40:45.800 --> 0:40:47.719
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, I don't know if you know this, but like,

0:40:47.840 --> 0:40:52.520
<v Speaker 2>does the Spanish government care that people are living in caves?

0:40:52.760 --> 0:40:55.040
<v Speaker 2>Someone asks that. Yeah, I'm curious about that too, does

0:40:55.480 --> 0:40:58.640
<v Speaker 2>like does the government or like the police or like

0:40:58.719 --> 0:41:01.759
<v Speaker 2>does anyone ask you guys or do they not really

0:41:01.760 --> 0:41:02.279
<v Speaker 2>give a fuck?

0:41:03.719 --> 0:41:10.520
<v Speaker 1>It depends if you are living like in the places

0:41:10.520 --> 0:41:16.239
<v Speaker 1>that tourists tourist goes to, like on the beach, they

0:41:16.280 --> 0:41:19.160
<v Speaker 1>throw people, they throw people out, but they are not

0:41:19.360 --> 0:41:23.360
<v Speaker 1>like harresting anybody or her as anybody. And in the

0:41:23.400 --> 0:41:27.040
<v Speaker 1>place that I live living, there's there were no like

0:41:27.120 --> 0:41:31.280
<v Speaker 1>situations and the police are pretty chill with the hippies.

0:41:32.440 --> 0:41:34.040
<v Speaker 2>What is this place called again?

0:41:36.400 --> 0:41:39.839
<v Speaker 1>Uh? I mean I am on Canary Islands, and on

0:41:40.040 --> 0:41:44.240
<v Speaker 1>every every island there you can find like some hippie

0:41:44.239 --> 0:41:48.080
<v Speaker 1>community and people living in the nature or in the

0:41:48.120 --> 0:41:53.840
<v Speaker 1>case or anywhere else. But the biggest, biggest, biggest community

0:41:54.160 --> 0:41:56.000
<v Speaker 1>is on Tenary.

0:41:55.600 --> 0:42:03.520
<v Speaker 2>Islands tenor Refile. Oh okay, wow, interesting the Canary Islands

0:42:03.520 --> 0:42:09.640
<v Speaker 2>Autonomous Community of Spain. Whoa, this place looks crazy.

0:42:10.440 --> 0:42:16.480
<v Speaker 1>And also they have like two capitals on separate islands

0:42:16.560 --> 0:42:23.880
<v Speaker 1>and they like I think they change like the capital

0:42:24.040 --> 0:42:28.480
<v Speaker 1>every few years. It's weird.

0:42:30.040 --> 0:42:34.440
<v Speaker 2>Interesting. So tener Reef is So you live on a

0:42:34.480 --> 0:42:35.800
<v Speaker 2>cave in Tenerief.

0:42:37.160 --> 0:42:37.839
<v Speaker 1>Pretty much?

0:42:38.840 --> 0:42:42.920
<v Speaker 2>Wow, I'm looking at Google images of this ship. This

0:42:43.040 --> 0:42:46.440
<v Speaker 2>is crazy and it's pretty much. You know what's funny

0:42:46.480 --> 0:42:48.600
<v Speaker 2>is with I feel like there's got to be at

0:42:48.680 --> 0:42:53.880
<v Speaker 2>least what I truly do predict at least one person

0:42:54.560 --> 0:43:00.239
<v Speaker 2>listening to this podcast will fucking go visit Tennery.

0:43:00.120 --> 0:43:01.320
<v Speaker 1>Hell yeah, because.

0:43:01.239 --> 0:43:03.879
<v Speaker 2>Hell yeah, go ahead.

0:43:05.480 --> 0:43:11.080
<v Speaker 1>I met a guy from the US just like maybe

0:43:11.120 --> 0:43:14.160
<v Speaker 1>a week ago, and he was like dressed in all

0:43:14.200 --> 0:43:17.360
<v Speaker 1>the red in the devil costume, and he was talking

0:43:17.440 --> 0:43:22.040
<v Speaker 1>some shit about Satanism, and he was pretty fucking cool.

0:43:22.600 --> 0:43:27.520
<v Speaker 1>And he had like this what is called the fork there,

0:43:27.640 --> 0:43:31.520
<v Speaker 1>big red fork with him and he was just walking around.

0:43:31.760 --> 0:43:36.040
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, and I also I also knew the guy

0:43:36.120 --> 0:43:40.760
<v Speaker 1>from New York that leaves pretty close to me, So yeah,

0:43:41.040 --> 0:43:44.440
<v Speaker 1>I mean it's pretty cool. It's pretty cool. You can

0:43:44.520 --> 0:43:49.200
<v Speaker 1>leave a very low budget here, you can just hanger out,

0:43:49.480 --> 0:43:50.480
<v Speaker 1>hang around.

0:43:52.680 --> 0:43:56.759
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, you've got you. At least one person will

0:43:56.760 --> 0:43:59.920
<v Speaker 2>hear this podcast and be like, fucking I'm moving to Tannery.

0:44:01.280 --> 0:44:04.520
<v Speaker 2>It's funny because you opened this phone if you'll remember,

0:44:04.880 --> 0:44:07.959
<v Speaker 2>you open to this phone call by being like, Hey,

0:44:08.000 --> 0:44:13.719
<v Speaker 2>does anyone want to come live in a cave with me? Which, upfront, upfront,

0:44:13.960 --> 0:44:17.840
<v Speaker 2>with zero context, is a bit of a rough pitch,

0:44:18.200 --> 0:44:21.400
<v Speaker 2>but I'll say, over the past forty five minutes, you

0:44:21.440 --> 0:44:26.799
<v Speaker 2>have successfully pitched the concept of going to live in

0:44:26.840 --> 0:44:28.640
<v Speaker 2>a cave with you, and I feel like at least

0:44:28.680 --> 0:44:33.600
<v Speaker 2>a few people listening will take you up on the solfare. Yeah,

0:44:33.600 --> 0:44:35.359
<v Speaker 2>there's a lot of places like this where it's like

0:44:35.440 --> 0:44:41.200
<v Speaker 2>the the cost of getting there is the highest cost,

0:44:41.239 --> 0:44:45.680
<v Speaker 2>and then once you're there, you're just chilling because yeah,

0:44:45.719 --> 0:44:48.520
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, if you're like fucking if you're young,

0:44:49.040 --> 0:44:51.200
<v Speaker 2>if you're I don't know, man, if you're young and

0:44:51.480 --> 0:44:57.000
<v Speaker 2>broke and you wanna fucking do something interesting with your

0:44:57.239 --> 0:45:02.759
<v Speaker 2>life before you dive into corporate whatever, you know, why

0:45:02.800 --> 0:45:05.400
<v Speaker 2>not why not go live in a cave for a

0:45:05.440 --> 0:45:09.000
<v Speaker 2>bit and hang out and meet weird people and you know,

0:45:09.160 --> 0:45:09.720
<v Speaker 2>live a little.

0:45:11.320 --> 0:45:13.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there's also a lot of people who are just

0:45:13.440 --> 0:45:18.120
<v Speaker 1>like leaving the cave and like searching for a job

0:45:18.200 --> 0:45:22.799
<v Speaker 1>here and actually working and saving money, and the rest

0:45:22.840 --> 0:45:24.720
<v Speaker 1>of the day they are just spending on the beach

0:45:25.080 --> 0:45:28.880
<v Speaker 1>and in the cave and it's from the trash or

0:45:28.960 --> 0:45:33.240
<v Speaker 1>in like have their own community and foot together.

0:45:34.080 --> 0:45:36.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so I mean, yeah, folks are working there. You know,

0:45:36.880 --> 0:45:39.520
<v Speaker 2>there are people there who are like working, saving money,

0:45:40.040 --> 0:45:43.200
<v Speaker 2>still kind of building, still doing things to kind of

0:45:43.239 --> 0:45:46.759
<v Speaker 2>prepare for their future. But also you know, eating from

0:45:46.800 --> 0:45:52.439
<v Speaker 2>the trash and hanging out with folks. Pretty much, pretty cool,

0:45:53.080 --> 0:46:02.680
<v Speaker 2>pretty cool cavemano Polish, cave man, Polish. Can I know

0:46:02.760 --> 0:46:04.920
<v Speaker 2>you said you were stressed out, but this was a

0:46:04.960 --> 0:46:09.399
<v Speaker 2>great phone call. I really appreciate you, uh, giving us

0:46:09.480 --> 0:46:13.439
<v Speaker 2>all of your time, my friend, this was this was awesome. Yeah,

0:46:13.480 --> 0:46:17.040
<v Speaker 2>Like I said this, this might inspire a lot of folks.

0:46:17.080 --> 0:46:21.319
<v Speaker 2>So I appreciate you putting yourself out there. And you're

0:46:21.360 --> 0:46:24.399
<v Speaker 2>so fucking young too, man, you gotta you have an

0:46:24.400 --> 0:46:27.480
<v Speaker 2>interesting life ahead of you.

0:46:27.760 --> 0:46:30.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's a pretty cool It's a pretty cool start.

0:46:30.320 --> 0:46:33.960
<v Speaker 1>I am very glad that I met a lot of

0:46:34.280 --> 0:46:38.440
<v Speaker 1>like beautiful people that helped me out on my like

0:46:38.600 --> 0:46:43.439
<v Speaker 1>puff and I'm pretty stoked about living.

0:46:46.360 --> 0:46:51.440
<v Speaker 2>Caveman. Uh, is there anything else that you want to

0:46:51.520 --> 0:46:54.239
<v Speaker 2>say about any of this, or that you want to

0:46:54.280 --> 0:46:57.640
<v Speaker 2>talk about or any any final things before we go?

0:47:00.440 --> 0:47:02.719
<v Speaker 1>I had a lot of topics in my mind to

0:47:03.719 --> 0:47:09.520
<v Speaker 1>talk with you, but we like talk mostly about the caves.

0:47:10.040 --> 0:47:12.080
<v Speaker 1>And I get it. It's a I'm living in a cave,

0:47:13.520 --> 0:47:17.520
<v Speaker 1>so this is like a final goodbye? Or can I

0:47:17.640 --> 0:47:19.360
<v Speaker 1>like say something more?

0:47:21.080 --> 0:47:22.879
<v Speaker 2>Well, let's how long have we've been talking. We've been talking? Well,

0:47:23.120 --> 0:47:28.560
<v Speaker 2>you know, honestly, we've been talking for forty seven minutes. Yeah,

0:47:30.040 --> 0:47:31.719
<v Speaker 2>fuck it. I mean, if you if you have something else,

0:47:31.760 --> 0:47:32.839
<v Speaker 2>we can we can keep going.

0:47:35.200 --> 0:47:39.480
<v Speaker 1>M I mean, I want to, like because the living

0:47:39.480 --> 0:47:41.400
<v Speaker 1>in a cave is one thing. And I want to

0:47:41.480 --> 0:47:46.400
<v Speaker 1>kinda tell you what I'm thinking about doing next.

0:47:46.760 --> 0:47:48.759
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, sure, let's do that. Why not? What do you

0:47:48.760 --> 0:47:49.600
<v Speaker 2>think about doing next?

0:47:51.440 --> 0:47:56.440
<v Speaker 1>So, first thing, when I'm gonna like return to something

0:47:56.400 --> 0:47:59.359
<v Speaker 1>in the reef, I think I'm gonna go to festivals.

0:47:59.480 --> 0:48:06.160
<v Speaker 1>And I was pretty inspired by the guy who I

0:48:06.160 --> 0:48:11.080
<v Speaker 1>don't know that his is like Instagram profile what he's called,

0:48:11.120 --> 0:48:20.000
<v Speaker 1>but he has something that that's called the Last Supper Project,

0:48:20.160 --> 0:48:22.640
<v Speaker 1>and I was very inspired by that and I'm thinking

0:48:22.680 --> 0:48:27.120
<v Speaker 1>about doing my own version of it. So basically, he

0:48:27.160 --> 0:48:32.360
<v Speaker 1>suffers from a very strong bipolar disorder and he's gonna

0:48:33.920 --> 0:48:39.680
<v Speaker 1>take his own life in from legal if if i'managia

0:48:39.880 --> 0:48:47.399
<v Speaker 1>Autnasia and a lot of people like invite invite him

0:48:47.440 --> 0:48:54.280
<v Speaker 1>from dinner for dinner, and he talks about like mental

0:48:54.360 --> 0:48:58.440
<v Speaker 1>health and he loves food and he likes spread the

0:48:58.480 --> 0:49:05.400
<v Speaker 1>spread awareness about depression and this whole process, and he

0:49:05.520 --> 0:49:10.400
<v Speaker 1>also like holds dinners for people. Actually I cannot want.

0:49:10.239 --> 0:49:12.520
<v Speaker 2>To hear I've actually heard of this guy. Yeah, I've

0:49:12.560 --> 0:49:16.279
<v Speaker 2>heard of this guy. Yeah, yeah, and.

0:49:17.680 --> 0:49:21.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he like I started to think a lot about

0:49:21.680 --> 0:49:26.920
<v Speaker 1>like concept of death and taking your life if you

0:49:27.040 --> 0:49:31.360
<v Speaker 1>like suffers. If you are suffering for like some like

0:49:31.480 --> 0:49:37.040
<v Speaker 1>strong ship, you cannot live with it. And having like

0:49:37.120 --> 0:49:40.440
<v Speaker 1>sharing a meal with someone and cooking for someone, it's

0:49:40.440 --> 0:49:44.960
<v Speaker 1>a beautiful thing. And I'm thinking about if I'm gonna

0:49:45.120 --> 0:49:49.160
<v Speaker 1>have my own place and I want to explore cooking,

0:49:49.360 --> 0:49:53.400
<v Speaker 1>and I think I'm gonna like maybe do some posts

0:49:53.440 --> 0:49:59.319
<v Speaker 1>on Facebook that I'm searching for people that that are

0:49:59.640 --> 0:50:05.719
<v Speaker 1>lone or struggle with depression and cook them, cook them

0:50:05.800 --> 0:50:09.960
<v Speaker 1>food and create like a safe space for them. And

0:50:10.160 --> 0:50:14.839
<v Speaker 1>that's yeah, yeah, I really want to do that.

0:50:16.040 --> 0:50:18.719
<v Speaker 2>That's a wonderful idea. I I love the idea. I

0:50:18.800 --> 0:50:21.920
<v Speaker 2>really think you should do that, because you know, I

0:50:22.040 --> 0:50:27.560
<v Speaker 2>was thinking, I'm like, uh, yeah, it's no fucking secret.

0:50:27.600 --> 0:50:29.719
<v Speaker 2>I talk on this podcast a lot about the you know,

0:50:29.760 --> 0:50:33.439
<v Speaker 2>being fucking depressed or whatever, and it's like, ah, there's

0:50:33.440 --> 0:50:35.920
<v Speaker 2>so many other there's so there. I can think of

0:50:35.960 --> 0:50:39.200
<v Speaker 2>like a thousand different things to try before killing yourself,

0:50:39.320 --> 0:50:42.600
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean. There's so many different like, uh,

0:50:42.680 --> 0:50:47.960
<v Speaker 2>there's so many different hail Mary's to throw before killing yourself.

0:50:47.960 --> 0:50:49.759
<v Speaker 2>And that's all a take because you'll be in your

0:50:49.840 --> 0:50:51.640
<v Speaker 2>because like I'll you know, whatever, you'll be in your

0:50:51.719 --> 0:50:55.040
<v Speaker 2>room and you're like in your underwear, you're like depressed,

0:50:55.080 --> 0:50:56.480
<v Speaker 2>or you're on your phone and you're like, yeah, I

0:50:56.480 --> 0:50:59.239
<v Speaker 2>think I should fucking kill myself. And then all of

0:50:59.280 --> 0:51:01.400
<v Speaker 2>a sudden, you put on clothes and you're in a

0:51:01.760 --> 0:51:04.760
<v Speaker 2>room with lights and you're around other people or whatever,

0:51:04.840 --> 0:51:07.479
<v Speaker 2>and something switches in your brain and you're like, oh shit,

0:51:07.600 --> 0:51:14.640
<v Speaker 2>I actually something I was. I was limited by my

0:51:14.760 --> 0:51:19.200
<v Speaker 2>own brain in that moment. You know, I literally I

0:51:19.320 --> 0:51:23.520
<v Speaker 2>was fogged out. I couldn't see. So of course that's

0:51:23.800 --> 0:51:26.839
<v Speaker 2>I thought that was the only option, you know. So

0:51:26.920 --> 0:51:28.920
<v Speaker 2>it's like, I think having something, have it because you

0:51:28.960 --> 0:51:31.799
<v Speaker 2>could that, right, Because that's awesome, because like somebody could

0:51:31.840 --> 0:51:36.640
<v Speaker 2>be in the fucking throes of darkness and then all

0:51:36.640 --> 0:51:39.520
<v Speaker 2>of a sudden they, you know, go to your dinner

0:51:39.760 --> 0:51:42.720
<v Speaker 2>and there's other people around, and they're like, oh shit, Okay,

0:51:42.760 --> 0:51:45.320
<v Speaker 2>this doesn't have to be this way all the time.

0:51:45.960 --> 0:51:49.520
<v Speaker 2>You know, that's all it takes. Every Now, I'm not

0:51:49.520 --> 0:51:51.000
<v Speaker 2>going to say that's all it takes, because I don't

0:51:51.000 --> 0:51:54.600
<v Speaker 2>think that's literally all it takes. But no, no, I

0:51:54.600 --> 0:51:57.000
<v Speaker 2>don't think that's all it takes at all. But you

0:51:57.040 --> 0:51:59.160
<v Speaker 2>know what I mean, I'm rambling a little bit, but

0:52:00.239 --> 0:52:03.160
<v Speaker 2>I'm just kind of talking from my own experience.

0:52:06.239 --> 0:52:09.560
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I love like you can talk about ship

0:52:09.760 --> 0:52:11.919
<v Speaker 1>So I'm good.

0:52:14.719 --> 0:52:16.600
<v Speaker 2>But I think I think that's a fucking great idea. Man,

0:52:16.680 --> 0:52:17.759
<v Speaker 2>that's a great purpose to have.

0:52:20.560 --> 0:52:24.560
<v Speaker 1>Mm hmm. All right, So that was the one thing

0:52:24.600 --> 0:52:26.399
<v Speaker 1>that I want to talk to and I think I'm

0:52:26.560 --> 0:52:29.880
<v Speaker 1>pretty much finished. I just want to help people and

0:52:32.120 --> 0:52:34.480
<v Speaker 1>make the world a little better place.

0:52:37.880 --> 0:52:43.120
<v Speaker 2>My brother, my cave, my cave man. H this was

0:52:43.160 --> 0:52:46.880
<v Speaker 2>a great phone call. I really appreciate you sharing all

0:52:46.880 --> 0:52:51.040
<v Speaker 2>this stuff with us. I love that you're taking a

0:52:51.160 --> 0:52:54.680
<v Speaker 2>problem that you have had and trying to find a

0:52:54.680 --> 0:52:56.879
<v Speaker 2>way to help other people with the problem. I think

0:52:56.920 --> 0:53:02.800
<v Speaker 2>that's pretty sweet. Yeah, you've definitely inspired some folks listening

0:53:02.840 --> 0:53:06.840
<v Speaker 2>to this, I'm sure. And uh yeah, maybe I'll go

0:53:06.920 --> 0:53:09.640
<v Speaker 2>visit the Canary Islands. I'm curious now, I want to

0:53:09.680 --> 0:53:10.439
<v Speaker 2>go see some shit.

0:53:12.400 --> 0:53:14.480
<v Speaker 1>Do you on to visit me? I'm gonna show you

0:53:14.520 --> 0:53:17.480
<v Speaker 1>the islands and I do like a bit.

0:53:18.160 --> 0:53:20.560
<v Speaker 2>Sorry, Well, you know, it's fun I feel like I

0:53:20.600 --> 0:53:22.600
<v Speaker 2>have You know, what is funny is I have this

0:53:22.640 --> 0:53:26.880
<v Speaker 2>whole I actually have a I have a list. Last

0:53:26.960 --> 0:53:30.880
<v Speaker 2>year I made a little list on my phone. I

0:53:30.960 --> 0:53:33.439
<v Speaker 2>like screenshoted a bunch of d MS that I got

0:53:33.600 --> 0:53:38.000
<v Speaker 2>from people being like, Hey, come to Pakistan, or Hey

0:53:38.160 --> 0:53:40.920
<v Speaker 2>come to Singapore, or hey come to whatever. I'll show

0:53:40.960 --> 0:53:42.920
<v Speaker 2>you around because I've done that a couple of times.

0:53:42.920 --> 0:53:46.640
<v Speaker 2>I did that in Thailand and Guatemala and Mexico and

0:53:48.200 --> 0:53:51.640
<v Speaker 2>you know, uh, we had that break dancer guy who

0:53:51.760 --> 0:53:56.239
<v Speaker 2>was like, Hey, come to Tijuana and you know, I'm

0:53:56.360 --> 0:53:59.000
<v Speaker 2>chilling right now. But I don't know. Maybe one day

0:53:59.040 --> 0:54:00.840
<v Speaker 2>I'll men.

0:54:00.800 --> 0:54:04.920
<v Speaker 1>Imagine that we can host your show in the cave.

0:54:06.760 --> 0:54:11.680
<v Speaker 2>Okay, that does sound pretty sweet. That does sound pretty sweet.

0:54:12.719 --> 0:54:15.359
<v Speaker 2>Where can people look? Man? Do you have a where

0:54:15.360 --> 0:54:17.320
<v Speaker 2>can people follow you on something? There's a couple of

0:54:17.320 --> 0:54:20.200
<v Speaker 2>people in the twitch chat who wanted to follow Like,

0:54:20.239 --> 0:54:22.960
<v Speaker 2>if people want to well, let's say this, right, let's

0:54:23.000 --> 0:54:26.880
<v Speaker 2>say this. Let's say people want to follow you on

0:54:26.920 --> 0:54:31.080
<v Speaker 2>your cave adventures. Let's say some random motherfucker listening to

0:54:31.160 --> 0:54:35.400
<v Speaker 2>this podcast wants to take you up on your dinner

0:54:35.480 --> 0:54:38.760
<v Speaker 2>for depressed people or living in the cave. If people

0:54:38.840 --> 0:54:40.520
<v Speaker 2>want to connect with you, you don't. By the way,

0:54:40.520 --> 0:54:43.520
<v Speaker 2>you don't. If you want to stay completely anonymous, I

0:54:43.560 --> 0:54:47.920
<v Speaker 2>respect that you totally can. But if if, if, if

0:54:47.960 --> 0:54:49.720
<v Speaker 2>you want to take the message.

0:54:49.520 --> 0:54:52.920
<v Speaker 1>On the on the chat, if we gonna end this

0:54:53.080 --> 0:54:55.839
<v Speaker 1>call and people can type me a message if they

0:54:55.840 --> 0:54:56.239
<v Speaker 1>wanted to.

0:54:56.680 --> 0:54:58.400
<v Speaker 2>Okay, so you don't wanna you don't want to put

0:54:58.440 --> 0:54:59.840
<v Speaker 2>yourself out there to the podcast?

0:55:00.080 --> 0:55:07.200
<v Speaker 5>Mm hmm what oh well, if people, I'm saying, if people,

0:55:07.200 --> 0:55:09.120
<v Speaker 5>If people want to follow you or connect with you,

0:55:09.440 --> 0:55:11.000
<v Speaker 5>if you want to give them an outlet to do that,

0:55:11.040 --> 0:55:11.319
<v Speaker 5>you can.

0:55:11.400 --> 0:55:12.480
<v Speaker 2>But if not, that's okay.

0:55:13.960 --> 0:55:16.280
<v Speaker 1>No, I don't have any like I have my private

0:55:16.840 --> 0:55:19.800
<v Speaker 1>account on Instagram, but I want to kind of stay.

0:55:20.640 --> 0:55:22.279
<v Speaker 2>They stay around. I got you, I got you, I

0:55:22.280 --> 0:55:26.480
<v Speaker 2>got you, I got you. Caveman, thank you very much

0:55:26.520 --> 0:55:29.359
<v Speaker 2>for sharing your story with us. Any anything else before

0:55:29.360 --> 0:55:29.640
<v Speaker 2>we go?

0:55:31.719 --> 0:55:35.120
<v Speaker 1>Uh, I want to say to the people of the computer,

0:55:37.040 --> 0:55:40.799
<v Speaker 1>if you are depressed and you are thinking about what

0:55:40.960 --> 0:55:44.760
<v Speaker 1>is the purpose of living, just go and buy yourself

0:55:44.920 --> 0:55:49.400
<v Speaker 1>ice cream and yeah, ice cream are pretty cool. They

0:55:49.680 --> 0:55:51.480
<v Speaker 1>help help me with a lot of shit.

0:55:53.520 --> 0:55:55.080
<v Speaker 2>Thank you very much for calling cave Man. Have you

0:55:55.080 --> 0:55:56.960
<v Speaker 2>the rest of the day.

0:55:57.600 --> 0:56:00.840
<v Speaker 1>It's a while, Thank you, b y.

0:56:01.440 --> 0:56:06.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, ice cream is pretty sweet. That was great. That

0:56:06.480 --> 0:56:10.560
<v Speaker 2>was great. Uh. Yeah, I'm inspired. Now I want to

0:56:10.560 --> 0:56:15.839
<v Speaker 2>go visit the fucking Tenor Reef Islands. I mean, why

0:56:15.880 --> 0:56:20.719
<v Speaker 2>not why not visit the tenerif violence? Why not go

0:56:20.800 --> 0:56:25.000
<v Speaker 2>live in a cave and talk to people? Why not

0:56:25.120 --> 0:56:28.359
<v Speaker 2>do any of this stuff? I don't know. There's got

0:56:29.760 --> 0:56:31.480
<v Speaker 2>there's guy I don't know why I almost threw up

0:56:31.520 --> 0:56:37.080
<v Speaker 2>just now. Yeah, that's cool. If if I feel like, yeah,

0:56:37.080 --> 0:56:39.239
<v Speaker 2>there's gotta at least somebody who's listening to this, who's like,

0:56:39.320 --> 0:56:41.280
<v Speaker 2>you know what, fucking I'm gonna go to the teneriviolence.

0:56:42.120 --> 0:56:45.360
<v Speaker 2>Maybe that maybe that's maybe I'm projecting, Maybe that's somebody

0:56:45.440 --> 0:56:47.719
<v Speaker 2>is me. Maybe I gotta go live in the go

0:56:47.800 --> 0:56:53.640
<v Speaker 2>live in a fucking cave and the tenoriviolence could be fun. Uh,

0:56:53.880 --> 0:56:58.120
<v Speaker 2>thank you for calling cave man. And yeah, ice cream

0:56:58.200 --> 0:57:02.440
<v Speaker 2>is good. Uh uh. Sometimes when I get depressed, I

0:57:02.760 --> 0:57:06.439
<v Speaker 2>eat an orange creamsicle and it makes things at least

0:57:06.480 --> 0:57:10.759
<v Speaker 2>five percent better. Hey, what's your name, Doug?

0:57:12.840 --> 0:57:13.720
<v Speaker 3>We'll go with stinky.

0:57:14.560 --> 0:57:16.280
<v Speaker 2>I don't I don't like the work. Can I can

0:57:16.320 --> 0:57:18.440
<v Speaker 2>I call you something? I'm gonna I don't like. I

0:57:18.480 --> 0:57:21.560
<v Speaker 2>hate saying stinky for some reason. It it it it

0:57:21.560 --> 0:57:23.480
<v Speaker 2>puts me off. Can I call you something else?

0:57:24.800 --> 0:57:25.040
<v Speaker 1>Sure?

0:57:25.120 --> 0:57:26.240
<v Speaker 3>Or anything you want.

0:57:26.520 --> 0:57:30.400
<v Speaker 2>I'll call you Steve. What's up, Steve, what's up?

0:57:30.520 --> 0:57:34.160
<v Speaker 3>Man? We've a We've only talked one time prior, but

0:57:34.240 --> 0:57:37.840
<v Speaker 3>it was on a TikTok video comments or whatever.

0:57:38.840 --> 0:57:42.000
<v Speaker 2>We talked on TikTok video, cause that doesn't really sound

0:57:42.040 --> 0:57:43.200
<v Speaker 2>like we had a conversation.

0:57:44.680 --> 0:57:46.720
<v Speaker 3>Well, it's funny you brought up you don't like stinky

0:57:46.760 --> 0:57:50.400
<v Speaker 3>because I use your name was like something something stinky

0:57:50.480 --> 0:57:53.760
<v Speaker 3>and I said, love them the content, and you were like,

0:57:54.320 --> 0:57:55.760
<v Speaker 3>thank stinky and.

0:57:55.720 --> 0:57:58.200
<v Speaker 2>Then like I'm gonna go I'm gonna go ahead and

0:57:58.240 --> 0:58:01.200
<v Speaker 2>say that does not count as a conversation. So this

0:58:01.400 --> 0:58:04.760
<v Speaker 2>this would be the first time we're talking fair.

0:58:04.800 --> 0:58:07.360
<v Speaker 3>Totally fair man. I'm pretty pumped. I've been listening to

0:58:07.400 --> 0:58:10.160
<v Speaker 3>you for like, gosh, like four or five years now, dude,

0:58:10.240 --> 0:58:10.800
<v Speaker 3>kick ass man.

0:58:10.840 --> 0:58:14.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's crazy. This summer it'll be five fucking years

0:58:14.120 --> 0:58:15.960
<v Speaker 2>of the therapy. Gecko.

0:58:17.480 --> 0:58:19.880
<v Speaker 3>You're looking good. By the way, Thanks, I say that,

0:58:19.960 --> 0:58:22.400
<v Speaker 3>I checked the same. I don't usually watch live, but

0:58:22.440 --> 0:58:24.160
<v Speaker 3>I did today because I have Thanks.

0:58:24.000 --> 0:58:28.400
<v Speaker 2>Brother, Thank you brother. I'm down thirty pounds since I

0:58:28.480 --> 0:58:34.520
<v Speaker 2>finished my tour last year. Sweet, so I'm trying to

0:58:34.560 --> 0:58:39.200
<v Speaker 2>be less fat. Being fat it was not fun. I'm

0:58:39.360 --> 0:58:43.200
<v Speaker 2>eighteen pounds away from my goal weight. I'm trying to

0:58:43.240 --> 0:58:47.000
<v Speaker 2>be as skinny as I was before I started being

0:58:47.040 --> 0:58:51.080
<v Speaker 2>the gecko. Uh so we're almost there. But enough about me.

0:58:51.160 --> 0:58:53.240
<v Speaker 2>Who cares? What's up with you, Steve? What do you

0:58:53.240 --> 0:58:54.120
<v Speaker 2>want to talk about today?

0:58:56.920 --> 0:58:59.280
<v Speaker 3>Okay? I work in Atlanta, and I know you mentioned

0:58:59.280 --> 0:59:02.920
<v Speaker 3>Atlanta sometimes, but I work with in the film industry

0:59:03.880 --> 0:59:06.640
<v Speaker 3>and it's kind of a stressful industry to work in.

0:59:07.240 --> 0:59:13.640
<v Speaker 2>Oh uh yeah. I worked on set in Atlanta for

0:59:13.720 --> 0:59:16.960
<v Speaker 2>a summer and it was yeah, it's what are you

0:59:17.040 --> 0:59:17.400
<v Speaker 2>a PA?

0:59:19.440 --> 0:59:22.280
<v Speaker 3>So I kind of bounce between doing PA stuff, but

0:59:22.280 --> 0:59:25.440
<v Speaker 3>I'm actually I am in the union now, so I

0:59:25.440 --> 0:59:27.680
<v Speaker 3>am like a props assist, but I also dabble in

0:59:27.720 --> 0:59:28.880
<v Speaker 3>a set deck as well.

0:59:29.680 --> 0:59:33.680
<v Speaker 2>Okay, yeah, you probably work like eighty hours a.

0:59:33.640 --> 0:59:39.440
<v Speaker 3>Week when I do work. Yes, yeah, exactly.

0:59:39.600 --> 0:59:41.040
<v Speaker 2>I mean that's how it works down there, right, is

0:59:41.080 --> 0:59:44.200
<v Speaker 2>you work like you'll work for like eighty hours a

0:59:44.240 --> 0:59:46.760
<v Speaker 2>week for like a month, and then work like zero

0:59:46.920 --> 0:59:49.960
<v Speaker 2>hours a week for like, you know, a few weeks,

0:59:50.080 --> 0:59:52.760
<v Speaker 2>and then right It's like it's very like super on

0:59:52.920 --> 0:59:53.760
<v Speaker 2>and super off.

0:59:53.880 --> 0:59:56.600
<v Speaker 3>Isn't it very correct?

0:59:56.680 --> 0:59:56.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

0:59:56.880 --> 0:59:59.760
<v Speaker 3>I mean it totally depends on whatever like production companies

0:59:59.800 --> 1:00:02.880
<v Speaker 3>do and the gigs. Some gigs are done like a month,

1:00:02.960 --> 1:00:05.440
<v Speaker 3>two months, some are done in six months. I know

1:00:06.120 --> 1:00:08.920
<v Speaker 3>Stranger Things is on for like over a year plus,

1:00:09.000 --> 1:00:11.600
<v Speaker 3>so that would be a nice gig to be Oh,

1:00:11.800 --> 1:00:14.240
<v Speaker 3>but I've also heard that it gets a little crazy

1:00:14.320 --> 1:00:15.560
<v Speaker 3>over there sometimes.

1:00:15.920 --> 1:00:18.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, although I will say I kind of that method

1:00:19.000 --> 1:00:24.200
<v Speaker 2>of working, I actually think is pretty I actually think

1:00:24.200 --> 1:00:26.800
<v Speaker 2>that's a I mean, everyone's kind of different, right, but

1:00:26.920 --> 1:00:29.520
<v Speaker 2>like that's kind of like a nice balance, right, because

1:00:30.240 --> 1:00:33.600
<v Speaker 2>I would rather have like a short period of I

1:00:33.600 --> 1:00:35.400
<v Speaker 2>would rather have like a period of time where like

1:00:35.520 --> 1:00:38.600
<v Speaker 2>all I'm doing is working, and then a period of

1:00:38.600 --> 1:00:42.440
<v Speaker 2>time where all I'm doing is not working, versus like

1:00:42.600 --> 1:00:45.760
<v Speaker 2>working a little bit every single day, you know, because

1:00:45.800 --> 1:00:47.920
<v Speaker 2>now because you can you feel like, I mean, I

1:00:48.120 --> 1:00:50.000
<v Speaker 2>don't know, what do you like that lifestyle?

1:00:51.280 --> 1:00:53.440
<v Speaker 3>It's and that's kind of like what I wanted to

1:00:53.480 --> 1:00:56.400
<v Speaker 3>talk about, because like a lot of people want to

1:00:56.400 --> 1:00:58.880
<v Speaker 3>get into the film industry for like total you know,

1:00:59.200 --> 1:01:02.400
<v Speaker 3>understandable reasons. I think something that they don't really like

1:01:02.520 --> 1:01:05.680
<v Speaker 3>acknowledge is that you don't work unless you have someone

1:01:05.720 --> 1:01:09.919
<v Speaker 3>who can hire you two work and then that only Yeah,

1:01:09.960 --> 1:01:12.560
<v Speaker 3>that only goes on for however long the actual gig is.

1:01:12.720 --> 1:01:15.520
<v Speaker 3>But me personally, I don't mind working for like four

1:01:15.600 --> 1:01:18.320
<v Speaker 3>or five months straight, maybe a little month or two

1:01:18.360 --> 1:01:20.480
<v Speaker 3>off and then go back to work. But I just

1:01:20.520 --> 1:01:23.120
<v Speaker 3>hopped off a project like last week. I've had a

1:01:23.160 --> 1:01:27.280
<v Speaker 3>week off now and getting a little bored man, getting

1:01:27.280 --> 1:01:29.000
<v Speaker 3>a little in my head. But I just got to

1:01:29.080 --> 1:01:31.560
<v Speaker 3>know that things will be on the way soon.

1:01:33.040 --> 1:01:34.080
<v Speaker 2>What are you in your head about?

1:01:35.800 --> 1:01:39.880
<v Speaker 3>Uh, just because you know, like when you work for

1:01:39.920 --> 1:01:42.080
<v Speaker 3>a month or a month or two or however long

1:01:42.080 --> 1:01:46.000
<v Speaker 3>your project is, and then your gig's over, You're like, yeah,

1:01:46.000 --> 1:01:47.720
<v Speaker 3>here's my last day. It was the last day I'll

1:01:47.760 --> 1:01:51.200
<v Speaker 3>be working, and then not knowing when something else is

1:01:51.240 --> 1:01:54.560
<v Speaker 3>going to come in. You're like, I might not be

1:01:54.640 --> 1:01:58.280
<v Speaker 3>working for two weeks, might not be working for two months.

1:01:58.840 --> 1:02:00.960
<v Speaker 3>And then with the strike that happened like a year

1:02:01.000 --> 1:02:02.920
<v Speaker 3>or so ago, like most people didn't work for like

1:02:02.960 --> 1:02:04.160
<v Speaker 3>six months, which.

1:02:04.000 --> 1:02:08.320
<v Speaker 2>Is yeah, pretty tough. I mean that is the nature

1:02:08.560 --> 1:02:15.080
<v Speaker 2>of the film industry, right ye is you have no

1:02:15.200 --> 1:02:19.000
<v Speaker 2>idea when your next gig is going to be. I

1:02:19.040 --> 1:02:21.960
<v Speaker 2>guess that's the nature of like freelance work in general.

1:02:23.240 --> 1:02:24.520
<v Speaker 1>Yep, exactly.

1:02:25.160 --> 1:02:29.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I mean when you when you are on set,

1:02:29.520 --> 1:02:31.400
<v Speaker 2>do you like it or is it? Is it crazy?

1:02:32.800 --> 1:02:32.960
<v Speaker 5>Oh?

1:02:33.040 --> 1:02:33.600
<v Speaker 1>I love it?

1:02:33.760 --> 1:02:36.840
<v Speaker 3>Being on set is super fun. I knew I wanted

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<v Speaker 3>to be in the movies when I was like six

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<v Speaker 3>or so. Maybe not like the in them, but you know,

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<v Speaker 3>have something to do with the creation of them. And

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<v Speaker 3>so whenever I got my first gig as a PA,

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<v Speaker 3>which was in Props, I got super lucky with getting

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<v Speaker 3>to have on set experience with that, and oh my gosh,

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<v Speaker 3>it's so fun getting to work with everyone and just

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<v Speaker 3>seeing how these like huge budgeted shows and movies get

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<v Speaker 3>made is really it's amazing. And it's also like, holy fuck,

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<v Speaker 3>we spend a lot of money, Like so much money, dude.

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<v Speaker 2>It's really insane how I feel like I have these

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<v Speaker 2>kinds of inside baseball conversations about like movie shit on

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<v Speaker 2>the podcast A Bunch, but I do like having them.

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<v Speaker 2>It's insane how much fucking money it costs to make

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<v Speaker 2>TV shows and movies. And I always for for like,

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<v Speaker 2>like fucking I used to work on this set of uh,

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<v Speaker 2>who cares about this? I used to work on the

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<v Speaker 2>set of like an adult swim show that aired at

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<v Speaker 2>like four o'clock in the morning that people, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think it had a lot of viewers. And I was

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<v Speaker 2>talking to somebody like who worked in like the production office,

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<v Speaker 2>and they mentioned that a season of this show cost

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<v Speaker 2>four million dollars to make. And I'm like, and you

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<v Speaker 2>know the crazy thing, And you know this, four million

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<v Speaker 2>dollars in film and television universe is not that much money.

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<v Speaker 3>It is not a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it's not a lot of money, which is crazy

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<v Speaker 2>because in real life, four million dollars is a fucking

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<v Speaker 2>shit ton of money.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, it's a life four million dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>Saying amount of You can do so many things for

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<v Speaker 2>four million dollars, and then for some somehow they spend

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<v Speaker 2>four million dollars to make a TV show that nobody watches.

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<v Speaker 2>How the fuck is that a good financial investment? And

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<v Speaker 2>yet the Hollywood is doing it, you know, I mean

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<v Speaker 2>for four million how many Like if you if you're

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<v Speaker 2>trying to make money, there's infinite better things you could

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<v Speaker 2>do with four million dollars. Then make a season of

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<v Speaker 2>a TV show that nobody's fucking watching.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, yeah, there's that. And then you have actually

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<v Speaker 3>worked on laid the like second time it was getting made,

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<v Speaker 3>and the amount of money that they put into that

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<v Speaker 3>that hasn't even been released yet. Oh man, I couldn't

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<v Speaker 3>even I don't even want to think about it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's crazy shit, it's crazy shit. Well let's see here.

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<v Speaker 2>What's your name Ago, Oh, Steve, Steve, Steve. Well, what

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<v Speaker 2>have you been doing in your off time?

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<v Speaker 3>In my off time? I'm going to sound like a nerd,

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<v Speaker 3>but I three D print armor, like Mandalorian armor, like

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<v Speaker 3>just on the side. So I've just been redesigning that,

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<v Speaker 3>printing that out because it was working in props. It

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<v Speaker 3>also does kind of helped just to have a little

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<v Speaker 3>bit of a you know, background knowledge on how to

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<v Speaker 3>put this together in case something happens on set. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>just being good with your hands.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, you three D print armor?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Is it? I I feel like we I mean, the material,

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<v Speaker 2>the three D printing material is kind of crappy, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh well yeah, I mean I'm not trying to get

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<v Speaker 3>shot with this, but you know, whenever I get a

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<v Speaker 3>little high go to a convention, I feel pretty cool.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh plastic Okay, so it's all plastic, like you're not

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<v Speaker 2>This isn't like you're not You're not taking this into

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<v Speaker 2>battle with you.

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<v Speaker 3>No, but there are there are people out there that

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<v Speaker 3>do make their armor with iron and they like hand

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<v Speaker 3>hammer it and yeah that's impressive. I'm not there yet,

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<v Speaker 3>but we'll see. You never know.

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<v Speaker 2>Interesting, Well, what's your what's your dream? Steve? What do

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<v Speaker 2>you want to do with your life before you die?

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<v Speaker 3>Before I die?

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<v Speaker 5>Well?

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<v Speaker 3>Pretty I guess I'm somewhat content with the job I

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<v Speaker 3>have now, But I don't know. I guess, like everyone

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<v Speaker 3>who would be nice just to be able to enjoy

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<v Speaker 3>life and go out and travel more, because I guess,

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<v Speaker 3>like a lot of people that I've been calling in

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<v Speaker 3>and yourself included, to have the travel bug. I love

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<v Speaker 3>going around the world seeing all the places I can.

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<v Speaker 3>That dude he is talking about the Canary Islands was

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<v Speaker 3>taking me think of the British version of islands again.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah, the travel Bug's interesting. I think if

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<v Speaker 2>you if it's something you've never done before, it's absolutely

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<v Speaker 2>worth traveling as much as you can. And then I think,

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<v Speaker 2>after a while, you know that fucking song where it's

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<v Speaker 2>what has it go goes like I've all only one

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<v Speaker 2>place left I want to go. He says, you can't

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<v Speaker 2>you know whatever. I don't know why I'm singing that song,

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<v Speaker 2>but yeah, the travel Bug is kind of Yeah. If

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<v Speaker 2>you never travel before, you should definitely do it. I

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<v Speaker 2>think at a certain point you realize life was always

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<v Speaker 2>about I don't know, I guess the connections you make.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I don't know why. I'm trying to

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<v Speaker 2>be deep right now. I'm I'm I'm gonna let's let's

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<v Speaker 2>talk about something else.

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<v Speaker 3>They're good. You're carrying the conversation. I mean, I didn't

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<v Speaker 3>have like too too much to talk about because I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, I've just always been a big fan,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's been insane watching your story, especially with you know,

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<v Speaker 3>with Vice. Then I kicked off like a where we go?

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<v Speaker 3>But no, you're totally carrying the conversation. And also the case.

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<v Speaker 3>So Rito needs to be returned to Taco About the case.

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<v Speaker 2>C Rito absolutely needs to be returned to Taco Bell.

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<v Speaker 2>What else do they have they have recently? The French

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<v Speaker 2>The talk about French fries pretty good. I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>why I'm bringing that.

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<v Speaker 3>No, no, they are. They're under raided for a fry.

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<v Speaker 2>The packing peanut cinnamon things, I've been shipting on for

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<v Speaker 2>a while, but they're also pretty good. Uh, they need

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<v Speaker 2>to bring back the strawberry pink starburst freeze. That one's

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<v Speaker 2>a classic.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I agree.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, let's see, Steve. What's you You want to tell

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<v Speaker 2>me a deep, dark secret before we go?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh God, Okay, you're going to get pissed off from

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<v Speaker 3>me saying this, but I do agree with it every

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<v Speaker 3>time you might. I do agree with it when people

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<v Speaker 3>say that your face should be read And I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Steve, Well I'll I'll talk to you later.

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<v Speaker 1>See you, Li. I love you.

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<v Speaker 2>Bye, Steve. Luck good good, good luck. Don't never die,

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<v Speaker 2>Never die, Steve. One, I hung up on him. Well, now,

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't really hang up on. The conversation was simply

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<v Speaker 2>just over and then I hit the button. All right,

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<v Speaker 2>one more that I'm out? Hello, Hello, Hi? What's your name?

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<v Speaker 4>Hi? I'm Charlie.

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<v Speaker 2>Charlie. What's going on? Charlie? How is life?

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<v Speaker 4>Lyle? I think you already know. I think you get

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<v Speaker 4>the vibe. You know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 2>I I don't I should I assume that's bad. That's bad.

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<v Speaker 4>I guess so sorry. I'm also very nervous. I wasn't.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, everyone saved that, but I wasn't expecting to

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<v Speaker 4>get through. But it's great to talk to you. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>I mean things are okay. I'm twenty seven as well,

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<v Speaker 4>so that's kind of where I'm at with life. I

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<v Speaker 4>know that you're sort of in the same spot.

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<v Speaker 2>H I am twenty seven. I am a twenty seven

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<v Speaker 2>year old boy. Twenty seven is an interesting age. I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like it's the age that you stop you know

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<v Speaker 2>what I was going to say, It's the age you

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<v Speaker 2>stop being able to consider yourself young. But I I

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<v Speaker 2>the more I think, you know what, Oh, here's a

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<v Speaker 2>crazy thing. Here's I saw this on Twitter and I

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<v Speaker 2>agree with it. Twenty seven feels old, thirty one feels young.

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<v Speaker 4>Ooh ooha.

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<v Speaker 2>Isn't that a crazy one? Isn't that a crazy one?

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<v Speaker 4>It kind of is, And I kind of I have

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<v Speaker 4>some thoughts on that because I kind of think, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>when we think of up to the age of thirty,

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<v Speaker 4>I think we're kind of thinking about our childhood as well,

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<v Speaker 4>right Like it's just this whole chunk of time of

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<v Speaker 4>development where every single year it's something new, right Like

1:11:59.400 --> 1:12:02.400
<v Speaker 4>you're getting to all our new friends, you're learning algebra

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<v Speaker 4>or whatever. And so by the time you're like in

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<v Speaker 4>your twenties, you've lived like a million lives, going through

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<v Speaker 4>school and growing up and meeting people and like I

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<v Speaker 4>don't know, becoming a furry or whatever. And then you're

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<v Speaker 4>in your twenties like, Okay, well I'm an adult now.

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<v Speaker 4>But I guess by the time you're twenty seven, I

1:12:22.640 --> 1:12:28.080
<v Speaker 4>don't know. In my mind, that's almost like being ninety nine, right,

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<v Speaker 4>Like you're at the end of this chunk of your life.

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<v Speaker 4>Like twenty seven is just a really old child, but

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<v Speaker 4>thirty one that's a baby adult. Man.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I like that. Twenty seven that's that kind of

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<v Speaker 2>puts into words why thirty one feels younger than twenty seven,

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<v Speaker 2>because twenty seven that's an old child. Thirty one that's

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<v Speaker 2>a baby adult. So it's yeah, it's interesting you feel

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<v Speaker 2>like you're at the end of a certain kind of

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<v Speaker 2>uh life chapter, which is why it feels old, But

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<v Speaker 2>thirty one it's like you're at the beginning of thirties. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's so it's interesting how we kind of contextualize time

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<v Speaker 2>in that way.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah. I mean, I don't know. I've been thinking a

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<v Speaker 4>lot recently about how humans aren't even really meant to

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<v Speaker 4>live this long. And I kind of think that has

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<v Speaker 4>a big thing to do with it, Like, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>because I just turned twenty seven in the middle of March,

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<v Speaker 4>and I keep thinking like, damn, I'm so old. My

1:13:33.120 --> 1:13:37.920
<v Speaker 4>brain is fully developed, and I don't know, it's just

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<v Speaker 4>it's weird because then I think, okay, like a few

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<v Speaker 4>billion or whatever. I don't know how old humanity is,

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<v Speaker 4>but you know, when we were still like running around

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<v Speaker 4>in the jungles or whatever, what, we were living till

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<v Speaker 4>like fifteen, So I guess it kind of feels weird.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, were we only living to fifteen?

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know, probably, I mean that's some point in

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<v Speaker 4>history we were definitely only living to fifteen, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, probably, or we were at least only living until

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<v Speaker 2>Like I don't know, this is this is actually this

1:14:09.400 --> 1:14:11.800
<v Speaker 2>is a good history question. I'm with you, though, I

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<v Speaker 2>do sometimes I feel like like a mister me Seeks. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that's that's a thought I've been It's a bit of

1:14:20.000 --> 1:14:22.280
<v Speaker 2>a depressing thought, but that's a thought I've been having lately.

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<v Speaker 2>Is I've been feeling like a mister me seeks. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>I was not I don't know if I was meant

1:14:28.560 --> 1:14:31.800
<v Speaker 2>to God. This is depressing. I don't like this line

1:14:31.800 --> 1:14:32.880
<v Speaker 2>of thought. I don't think it's good.

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<v Speaker 4>No, it's not depressing. It's just reality. I think we have.

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<v Speaker 2>Well I don't. I don't. I don't think it is

1:14:39.360 --> 1:14:43.479
<v Speaker 2>reality because I I think I was just talking about

1:14:43.479 --> 1:14:48.519
<v Speaker 2>this on the podcast recently. I encounter a lot of

1:14:48.600 --> 1:14:55.519
<v Speaker 2>people in their sixties and fifties and whatever who are

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<v Speaker 2>like happy and enjoying life and doing things. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>So I think to be twenty seven and go, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm dead, I wasn't supposed to. Let I'm done. I

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<v Speaker 2>think that's I don't think that is reality. I think

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<v Speaker 2>that's that's a that's a bad perspective to have. So

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think it's to say it's reality is to

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<v Speaker 2>say my bad perspective is the truth, which is you know,

1:15:31.240 --> 1:15:34.080
<v Speaker 2>who the fuck does that help? Right? So I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't agree that it's reality. It's how I feel,

1:15:39.040 --> 1:15:41.760
<v Speaker 2>but I have But I'm optimist. I try to be optimistic.

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<v Speaker 2>I try to not. I don't want to feel that way.

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<v Speaker 2>I am going to work actively to change my perspectives

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<v Speaker 2>that I don't feel dead, so that I don't feel

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<v Speaker 2>because look, dude, you're as old or as young as

1:15:58.000 --> 1:16:08.759
<v Speaker 2>you say that you are, right, I mean, there's nothing. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>if if you want to walk around feeling like you're

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<v Speaker 2>mister me Seeks and that you you're you pequed and whatever,

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<v Speaker 2>then yeah, that becomes your reality. Reality, per There are

1:16:21.680 --> 1:16:26.360
<v Speaker 2>certain things are objectively Reality is objective reality that we

1:16:26.439 --> 1:16:31.000
<v Speaker 2>have both been alive for twenty seven years. But you know,

1:16:32.080 --> 1:16:34.599
<v Speaker 2>a lot a lot of the ship around that is

1:16:34.640 --> 1:16:43.840
<v Speaker 2>simply uh perspective. So I don't think that, yeo. So

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<v Speaker 2>when you say it's reality that we are washed up,

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's that's a fallacy because that's these these

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<v Speaker 2>these things that we're claiming about ourselves are are just

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<v Speaker 2>a matter of our own perspective, which I think we

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<v Speaker 2>can change. This is me being optimistic, and I have

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<v Speaker 2>no choice but to be optimistic, because if I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>going to be optimistic, then I might as well just

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<v Speaker 2>be mister me Siek's and I might as well, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>fucking whatever. But so I'm choosing, maybe I'm choosing to

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<v Speaker 2>be optimistic as in every situation that I have the

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<v Speaker 2>energy to be optimistic.

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<v Speaker 4>So yeah, yes, an optimism I feel as depressed as

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<v Speaker 4>everyone may get at, you know, whatever time of their life,

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<v Speaker 4>there's always going to have to be a degree of optimism,

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<v Speaker 4>whether we're aware of it or not. Optimism or like

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<v Speaker 4>the hope for change or the concept that there's something

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<v Speaker 4>different out there right, whether we believe in it or not.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, we wake up every day and feed ourselves

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<v Speaker 4>and give ourselves water, whether we're happy about it or not,

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<v Speaker 4>and happy about our lives or not. You know, even

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<v Speaker 4>just going through the motions, I think is sort of

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<v Speaker 4>it holds that degree of secret optimism, whether we're aware

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<v Speaker 4>of it and embracing it or not.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Yeah, I guess. I guess that's true. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>think that's true. I think that's true. I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>we're washed up. I think we're I don't know. It's

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<v Speaker 2>whatever you decide, it's whatever you fucking decide, And I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know. I just don't. I wanna my my my

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<v Speaker 2>goal for this year is to join the fucking living.

1:18:38.080 --> 1:18:44.960
<v Speaker 2>You know. That's that's that's become my that's become my

1:18:47.280 --> 1:18:53.599
<v Speaker 2>catchphrase or my modus operandi. However the fuck you phrase that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I want to join the living. I I'm tired of

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<v Speaker 2>being fucking feeling insane all the time. You know, people

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<v Speaker 2>do it, people figure out ways to join the living,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm I'm I'm doing it. I'm joining the living.

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<v Speaker 2>I hope you joined the living too. It looks like

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<v Speaker 2>they're having a good time.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Like I mean again, I think it's just sort

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<v Speaker 4>of being like in the middle to end of your twenties,

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<v Speaker 4>where you're like, Okay, you know, this part of my

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<v Speaker 4>life is over. What do I want to bring with

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<v Speaker 4>me into the next part of my life? And like,

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<v Speaker 4>what do I want the next part of my life

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<v Speaker 4>to look like? Like I don't know, it's weird, and

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think anyone ever really talks about it, But

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<v Speaker 4>I feel like this is sort of, you know, the

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<v Speaker 4>choke of age where we have to decide like, okay,

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<v Speaker 4>like are we going to just like lay down and

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<v Speaker 4>die or are we going to look at our lives

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<v Speaker 4>and see which part of our lives we want to

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<v Speaker 4>die and you know, what we want to feed into

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<v Speaker 4>and become. And I think when it comes to like

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<v Speaker 4>the concept of joining the living, it is really funny

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<v Speaker 4>you say that because I'm kind of in the same

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<v Speaker 4>position where a lot of my life I just did

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<v Speaker 4>what I was supposed to go to school, you know whatever,

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<v Speaker 4>and I never really got to live my life. I

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<v Speaker 4>was just really focused on like doing what I was

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<v Speaker 4>supposed to do. And so now I'm here, and I'm

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<v Speaker 4>sort of at that crossroads of like, Okay, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>do I want to pursue relationships. Do I want to

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<v Speaker 4>get a higher education? Do I want to move to Norway?

1:20:41.160 --> 1:20:43.559
<v Speaker 4>You know, It's just it's a tricky chunk of time

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<v Speaker 4>to be alive in because we have so many options

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<v Speaker 4>and we haven't really ever made this this funny choices

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<v Speaker 4>or had this much autonomy for our lives because again,

1:20:56.520 --> 1:20:58.040
<v Speaker 4>we're old children, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Also, I also think that's kind of a function

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<v Speaker 2>of the modern world, is like we also, like I

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<v Speaker 2>was thinking about that, I'm like addicted to Instagram. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>trying to be less addicted to Instagram. And it's like, dude,

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of people, you know, they get addicted. They

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know why I'm saying that is if I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not projecting, but like I'll wake up and I'll look

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<v Speaker 2>at Instagram stories and it's like, what the fuck I'm

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<v Speaker 2>waking up and immediately looking at everybody else's life and

1:21:31.640 --> 1:21:35.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm looking on the Internet and I'm being exposed to

1:21:36.000 --> 1:21:38.760
<v Speaker 2>the breadth of here. It's like, it's like basically, it's

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<v Speaker 2>like heroes. All the lives that you could possibly be living,

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<v Speaker 2>as told by everyone that you've ever met or connected with.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's too much. That's not a thing that has

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<v Speaker 2>ever been part of our human experience for as long

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<v Speaker 2>as youhumans have been alive.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>And it makes you compare yourself to other people. It

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<v Speaker 2>just it just takes you. It rips you out of

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<v Speaker 2>your fucking life in a way that I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>humans have have ever experienced. So we we definitely, I

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<v Speaker 2>think in the modern world, uh, I have to deal

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<v Speaker 2>with a lot of those uh uh uh challenges. But also,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, we also have a lot of opportunities because

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<v Speaker 2>of the modern world. You know, I dress up like

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<v Speaker 2>a fucking gecko and talk to strangers about ship. Because

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<v Speaker 2>of the modern world, we have the opportunity to move

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<v Speaker 2>to Norway and join a whatever the fuck thing because

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<v Speaker 2>we found out about it on Instagram or the internet.

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<v Speaker 2>So I don't know, it's it's I guess it's it all,

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<v Speaker 2>It all that all fucking comes down to how you

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<v Speaker 2>want to look at it, I suppose.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, absolutely, And I mean, uh, there's something you just

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<v Speaker 4>said which was, uh, you know, you wake up and

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<v Speaker 4>immediately and I do the same thing, immediately just go

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<v Speaker 4>on Instagram and look at other people's lives. But like,

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<v Speaker 4>and I know, obviously I'm guilty of the same thing,

1:23:18.760 --> 1:23:22.280
<v Speaker 4>but damn, it's you know, you wake up and immediately

1:23:22.360 --> 1:23:24.360
<v Speaker 4>sort of clock out. It's like, did you even wake

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<v Speaker 4>up at all? Like you may as well at that

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<v Speaker 4>point still.

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<v Speaker 2>Be dreaming, right, Yeah, yeah, God, I gotta get I

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<v Speaker 2>gotta get off to fucking I hate the internet so much.

1:23:34.640 --> 1:23:36.800
<v Speaker 2>I hate it. I fucking hate it. I hate it

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<v Speaker 2>so much. I notice my I am a I am

1:23:40.360 --> 1:23:47.800
<v Speaker 2>a little fucking rat boy. I'll like, uh, notice my

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<v Speaker 2>body going on the computer, opening the computer, typing in

1:23:52.800 --> 1:23:56.559
<v Speaker 2>r and then hitting enter to go on Reddit. And

1:23:56.600 --> 1:23:58.240
<v Speaker 2>it's like I'm one of my dumbs like a mouse

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<v Speaker 2>pulling a lever in and it's it's not it's it's

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<v Speaker 2>every day, multiple times a day, and I'm like, what

1:24:03.160 --> 1:24:04.840
<v Speaker 2>the fuck. I gotta I gotta, I gotta stop. I

1:24:04.880 --> 1:24:09.439
<v Speaker 2>gotta deprogram myself. It's like, uh, sometimes I'm like, uh,

1:24:10.920 --> 1:24:14.080
<v Speaker 2>I don't know the the problems are like writing fucking

1:24:14.200 --> 1:24:16.320
<v Speaker 2>in front of me. I gotta, I gotta, I gotta

1:24:16.360 --> 1:24:23.800
<v Speaker 2>deprogram myself from the craziness of the modern world. And

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<v Speaker 2>then you go into Reddit and then everything on the

1:24:25.479 --> 1:24:29.120
<v Speaker 2>reddit is like, here's what Trump is doing. And then

1:24:29.200 --> 1:24:34.280
<v Speaker 2>some guy comments being like you know, uh, Trump get owned,

1:24:34.400 --> 1:24:35.600
<v Speaker 2>and you're like, what are we? What are we? What

1:24:35.640 --> 1:24:38.120
<v Speaker 2>are we doing here? We gotta go. We gotta Why

1:24:38.160 --> 1:24:44.400
<v Speaker 2>don't we you know, plant to fucking learn to play guitar?

1:24:44.720 --> 1:24:46.639
<v Speaker 2>I don't know something. We gotta do something. We can't

1:24:46.680 --> 1:24:50.320
<v Speaker 2>just be looking at the fucking we I can't just

1:24:50.360 --> 1:24:52.479
<v Speaker 2>be looking at what Elon Musk is doing all day.

1:24:52.520 --> 1:24:55.960
<v Speaker 2>It's it's just ridiculous. It's fucking insane. Who cares?

1:24:56.200 --> 1:24:56.840
<v Speaker 4>I mean, who cares?

1:24:56.880 --> 1:24:58.479
<v Speaker 2>I mean yeah, I mean no, who cares? Yeah? You know,

1:24:58.479 --> 1:24:59.880
<v Speaker 2>it's not normal. It's not normal at all.

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<v Speaker 4>Like this is not what we were made for, and

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<v Speaker 4>like it is so tough because we as humans, like

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<v Speaker 4>we're evolved, We we created this, right, we put ourselves

1:25:14.720 --> 1:25:21.240
<v Speaker 4>in this machine of dopamine and money and made up concepts,

1:25:21.320 --> 1:25:24.680
<v Speaker 4>and we stressed ourselves out over it. At the end

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<v Speaker 4>of the day, like we're monkeys, We're monkeys.

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<v Speaker 2>That's it.

1:25:29.080 --> 1:25:31.559
<v Speaker 4>And you know, there's half of us that is human

1:25:31.720 --> 1:25:36.519
<v Speaker 4>and intellectual and reasonable and you know whatever, and then

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<v Speaker 4>there's the monkey ass that's just ooh Reddit, ooh ooh.

1:25:41.439 --> 1:25:46.400
<v Speaker 4>Swiping on Instagram is so fun, but it's not fulfilling

1:25:47.479 --> 1:25:51.920
<v Speaker 4>as a whole, right, Like it's you know, you know,

1:25:52.040 --> 1:25:53.920
<v Speaker 4>like a little monkey part of your brain can just

1:25:54.000 --> 1:25:56.240
<v Speaker 4>run around and play all day. But then the human

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<v Speaker 4>part is like, Okay, well I need uh, I don't know,

1:26:01.200 --> 1:26:04.960
<v Speaker 4>emotional stability and whatever. X y Z.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you know what we should do, Charlie. We should

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<v Speaker 2>go live in a cave.

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<v Speaker 4>I've been thinking about it a lot. While I'm not

1:26:16.000 --> 1:26:17.519
<v Speaker 4>joking that.

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<v Speaker 2>Guy at the beginning, I think he had it right.

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<v Speaker 2>He had it fucking right about living in a cave.

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<v Speaker 2>He's got a he's got a private Instagram account, he

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<v Speaker 2>probably has three followers, he has caves friends, he eats cheese.

1:26:32.800 --> 1:26:34.479
<v Speaker 2>He's doing he's doing it pretty good. He's doing it

1:26:34.520 --> 1:26:36.800
<v Speaker 2>pretty good. He's doing it pretty good. Or I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. Maybe you don't. Here's the thing. You

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<v Speaker 2>don't have to go live in a cave on the

1:26:39.320 --> 1:26:43.760
<v Speaker 2>Canary Islands. But maybe maybe there's a metaphorical version of

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<v Speaker 2>living on a cave in the Canary Islands that you

1:26:45.640 --> 1:26:48.640
<v Speaker 2>can just do from home. Whatever that looks like.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, I really kind of think the because it's

1:26:53.439 --> 1:26:55.759
<v Speaker 4>not a new idea, right, I feel like everybody forever

1:26:55.800 --> 1:26:57.679
<v Speaker 4>has always been like, oh, I want to run away

1:26:57.760 --> 1:27:00.880
<v Speaker 4>to a cave or the coast or or like a

1:27:00.920 --> 1:27:06.040
<v Speaker 4>treathouse and have no responsibilities. But I mean that's exactly

1:27:06.439 --> 1:27:10.240
<v Speaker 4>That's exactly it. Like, that's just us being human and

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<v Speaker 4>wanting to return to what we're actually made for, which

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<v Speaker 4>is just existing and having a fun little time.

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<v Speaker 2>I think probably, Charlie, is there a Is there anything

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<v Speaker 2>else you want to say to the people as the

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<v Speaker 2>computer before we go?

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<v Speaker 4>You know, I think the biggest thing that I want

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<v Speaker 4>to say is just what I've already said, which is

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<v Speaker 4>just it's important to remember that we're animals, you know,

1:27:40.040 --> 1:27:43.280
<v Speaker 4>be nice to yourself, whoever you are, whatever you are,

1:27:43.479 --> 1:27:45.000
<v Speaker 4>Like at the end of the day, we're just big,

1:27:45.040 --> 1:27:49.000
<v Speaker 4>stupid monkeys and yeah, damn, like we're really just trying

1:27:49.000 --> 1:27:52.479
<v Speaker 4>our best. It just be a be a good owner

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<v Speaker 4>for the pet that you are to yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>I like that.

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<v Speaker 2>I like that, Thank you, thank you, Charlie, good luck,

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<v Speaker 2>have a good rest of your.

1:28:01.120 --> 1:28:04.559
<v Speaker 4>Life, Lyle. I'll miss you, bye.

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<v Speaker 2>Charlie, Hie Yle. God damn it, I fucking I'm gonna

1:28:11.720 --> 1:28:13.519
<v Speaker 2>do it. I'm gonna never look at Reddit or Twitter

1:28:13.560 --> 1:28:18.920
<v Speaker 2>ever again. Mark my words, Mark my fucking words. People,

1:28:19.000 --> 1:28:20.840
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna never look at Reddit

1:28:20.880 --> 1:28:25.000
<v Speaker 2>or Twitter ever again in my entire life. God damn it. Shit,

1:28:25.120 --> 1:28:27.000
<v Speaker 2>it's like a heroin. I don't know why. You know.

1:28:27.040 --> 1:28:29.160
<v Speaker 2>What sucks is that? Like a lot of my addictions,

1:28:29.200 --> 1:28:33.640
<v Speaker 2>like I at least, like you know whatever, candy or

1:28:34.600 --> 1:28:37.439
<v Speaker 2>getting high or watching porn or jerking oat like all

1:28:37.439 --> 1:28:40.040
<v Speaker 2>that shit, like at least I like it, but like

1:28:40.120 --> 1:28:42.080
<v Speaker 2>read it in Twitter, It's like I'm addicted to it

1:28:42.160 --> 1:28:43.960
<v Speaker 2>and I don't like it. What the fuck is that?

1:28:44.200 --> 1:28:47.479
<v Speaker 2>Those are the things that have to go? All right, whatever,

1:28:47.479 --> 1:28:50.559
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna try my best. All right. Thank you for

1:28:50.600 --> 1:28:55.600
<v Speaker 2>listening to the Therapy Getto podcast Thank you forever and

1:28:55.640 --> 1:29:01.679
<v Speaker 2>always for listening to the Therapy get Goo podcasts. Good luck.

1:29:03.720 --> 1:29:05.160
<v Speaker 2>I don't I don't know if I have anything else

1:29:05.200 --> 1:29:07.920
<v Speaker 2>to say. I'm not go I think I'm not good

1:29:07.960 --> 1:29:09.879
<v Speaker 2>at the This was I think this was a great episode.

1:29:09.880 --> 1:29:12.400
<v Speaker 2>I liked talking to the cave guy. I like talking

1:29:12.439 --> 1:29:14.400
<v Speaker 2>to the film guy. I like to talking to Charlie.

1:29:15.840 --> 1:29:18.200
<v Speaker 2>I think the middle of the I don't know, the

1:29:18.320 --> 1:29:20.960
<v Speaker 2>ending of this podcast doesn't have to be good, all right.

1:29:20.960 --> 1:29:22.880
<v Speaker 2>I don't think I I don't think I need to

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<v Speaker 2>say anything of substance in this very moment because I

1:29:25.400 --> 1:29:30.679
<v Speaker 2>think I over the core period of time that this podcast,

1:29:31.040 --> 1:29:34.960
<v Speaker 2>this episode out, this hour and however many minute long

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<v Speaker 2>episode was, I think things of substance were said in

1:29:39.200 --> 1:29:42.160
<v Speaker 2>the middle. So I don't think that the end necessarily

1:29:42.200 --> 1:29:45.240
<v Speaker 2>needs any substance to it. So I'm just gonna leave

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<v Speaker 2>it like this, Okay, thank you very much. I'm gonna go. Uh,

1:29:52.040 --> 1:29:54.519
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go do nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>Goes on the line taking your phone calls.

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<v Speaker 5>Every nine he kept goes through his eyes as teaching

1:30:02.360 --> 1:30:05.479
<v Speaker 5>him how to have your life, but he's not really

1:30:05.640 --> 1:30:06.440
<v Speaker 5>an expert.