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Speaker 2: What's your name, sir?

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Speaker 1: I can go by caveman, but you can also give

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Speaker 2: Like cave man. Where are you calling from? Cave man?

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Speaker 1: From the actual cave.

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Speaker 2: You're calling from a cave.

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Speaker 1: Yes, the cave.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're a caveman and you're calling from the cave.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I do. I'm calling from the cave. Is there

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Speaker 1: sound quality? Okay, I can go my other cave that

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Speaker 2: You have hold on, hold on, slow down from my brother.

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Speaker 2: You have two caves, yeah, yeah, I do. In this economy,

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah. And there's a lot of free apartments. So

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Speaker 2: I think people need to. I think the people need

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is like a free space for

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Speaker 2: And yeah, are you or are you friends?

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Speaker 1: No? I am Polish originally, but now I'm in Teneris.

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Speaker 2: You are living in a cave on an island in Spain, Yes,

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Speaker 2: Interesting.

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Speaker 1: Oh I'm a little bit shaking. I am very stressed

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Phone calls are hard, and also I really want

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Speaker 2: We have Do I have a word for a hole

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Speaker 2: As a board game. Yeah it is all right, So

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Speaker 2: all right, so I I here's the thing. What's your

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Speaker 2: How do you eat? Like we eat? What food do

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Speaker 1: I eat from the trash?

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Speaker 2: Oh cool. Yeah, So you have a friend, you have

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Speaker 1: Yeah, basically I'm gonna give her much in my one

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the people that I met on the festivals, I

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Speaker 1: Is it the proper way to say it?

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Speaker 2: Sure?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, people squatting some yeah, yeah. Yeah. There's a

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Speaker 2: Do you see yourself staying on this island, you know,

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, I mean I love it and I

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Speaker 2: Yeah hmm, that sounds awesome. That sounds really cool. Do

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Speaker 2: Well, let me see here, cave man, let me Uh,

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Speaker 2: why don't we do this? We've got the live twitch

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Speaker 2: new call of duty is bad? What the fuck?

442
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:47,640
Speaker 4: All?

443
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:47,880
Speaker 1: Right?

444
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:52,720
Speaker 2: Oh? Okay? Someone said, does the cave stay the same

445
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:57,480
Speaker 2: temperature year round or is there ore there different seasons?

446
00:31:57,840 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 4: Uh?

447
00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:03,440
Speaker 1: In this part of island, it's pretty much hot all

448
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 1: the all, all time around. Uh.

449
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 2: Someone said, uh, do you smash a lot of cave chicks? M?

450
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:24,400
Speaker 1: No, no, no, I know this is not my thing.

451
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:28,640
Speaker 2: Uh do you do you ever cook anything? Or you

452
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 2: just straight eating leftovers?

453
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, yesterday I made yoki and I shared them

454
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:43,080
Speaker 1: with friends and it was pretty pretty delicious. And yeah,

455
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:46,120
Speaker 1: I love to cook and I wanna explore like cooking

456
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 1: more in my life. Yeah. When I'm gonna like return

457
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:55,840
Speaker 1: to point, I think in September, I'm gonna get my

458
00:32:55,880 --> 00:33:02,360
Speaker 1: own place. I wanna like buy a lot of new

459
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 1: kitchen stuff, and they want to cook, Like I always

460
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 1: loved cooking, and cooking for people was like my big passion.

461
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 1: So yeah, I want to cook more and to explore that.

462
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 2: Someone said, could you describe the cave please? I know

463
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 2: you've already kind of done that a little bit, but

464
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:27,680
Speaker 2: if you just want to look around the cave and

465
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:32,320
Speaker 2: really give us a solid description of what exactly we

466
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 2: should be imagining.

467
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:40,400
Speaker 1: Huh. So, it's kind of like a sandstone kind of

468
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 1: volcanic rock. I mean, there's a lot of very a

469
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 1: little bit about variations. Hmmm. I've built like a little

470
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 1: roof with with plastic pipes and some sort of like

471
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 1: material that I found. I have like small table, I

472
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:06,160
Speaker 1: have a pretty cool mattress, a lot of pillows, a

473
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 1: lot of pillows and it's so comfy here and very

474
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:18,440
Speaker 1: pretty blanket, and yeah, that's a good discussion.

475
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:21,719
Speaker 2: No, no, no, someone said, let's see. Oh, someone said,

476
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:24,120
Speaker 2: where is his brother? Did you mention having a brother?

477
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:30,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I have a little pattern that I was raising, Yeah,

478
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:36,279
Speaker 1: kind of. So so he's still living with my grandma.

479
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:45,160
Speaker 1: He is sixteen right now, and he yeah, he's depressed

480
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 1: as fuck. I like, I see myself in him so much,

481
00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 1: and I am. Yeah, I'm thinking a lot about him,

482
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 1: and I'm feeling kind of guilty about not being there

483
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:04,319
Speaker 1: with him m hmm and not helping him because I

484
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 1: see a lot of things that he struggles with that

485
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:11,760
Speaker 1: I struggle my whole life, like being not very social,

486
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 1: being like mm, especially in my younger younger years, being

487
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:29,280
Speaker 1: like black sheep in any social situation. And he doesn't

488
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:35,720
Speaker 1: have like any purpose or passion. So yeah, mm hmmm.

489
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:39,719
Speaker 2: Do you still do you keep in touch with him

490
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:42,360
Speaker 2: very often, like with text or call or anything like that.

491
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:52,800
Speaker 1: We had like a two month's break and yeah, we

492
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:55,399
Speaker 1: called each other and we were talking for an hour,

493
00:35:56,800 --> 00:36:01,279
Speaker 1: and yeah, I told him that I felt felt very

494
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:08,319
Speaker 1: guilty about not reaching out and that our relationship is

495
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 1: not not really there and that I see the things

496
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:19,880
Speaker 1: that he struggles with, and I said that I cannot

497
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:21,760
Speaker 1: like be there and help.

498
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:23,480
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.

499
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker 1: Yeah.

500
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:30,239
Speaker 2: Would you ever have him come visit the come visit

501
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 2: the Cave Islands?

502
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:36,799
Speaker 1: I would love to. I would love to that. Yeah,

503
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 1: he's in school, so and I'm gonna get to Europe

504
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:50,240
Speaker 1: before the summer starts. So but maybe next year, maybe

505
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:53,479
Speaker 1: we're gonna go to a little vacation together. That would

506
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:53,839
Speaker 1: be great.

507
00:36:56,680 --> 00:37:00,440
Speaker 2: Uh, let's see here, Okay, we have some wants to know.

508
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:03,239
Speaker 2: Do you have a bed? I was wondering that too.

509
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:06,799
Speaker 3: Bed.

510
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, do you have a bed?

511
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:13,439
Speaker 1: I mean I have a mattress. This is a bed. Yeah,

512
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:17,400
Speaker 1: I don't have like a bed frame, but yeah, this

513
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 1: is pretty much bad.

514
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 2: Are there bats in the cave?

515
00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 1: But no, there are no bats here that I know of.

516
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:32,520
Speaker 2: What is your pooping situation looking like in this cave?

517
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:39,720
Speaker 1: Pretty chill? I have a So I leave, like canyon

518
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 1: canyon isn't the right worthy canyon we call it's called

519
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 1: the baranco here. So I look pretty high up and

520
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:51,279
Speaker 1: I just go down a little and I dig like

521
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:55,840
Speaker 1: a long hole. So if I need to go, I

522
00:37:56,040 --> 00:38:00,560
Speaker 1: just do my stuff covered with the with the hands

523
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 1: and I'm good.

524
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 2: Someone wants to know what is the best thing you

525
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:09,520
Speaker 2: have found in the trash so far in your dumpster

526
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:11,880
Speaker 2: diving days.

527
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 1: Oh, yes, yesterday I found a new power bank that

528
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 1: I'm actually now charging my phone with. It has like

529
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:28,360
Speaker 1: solar panel built in and it's it has twenty twenty

530
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:31,440
Speaker 1: five million million.

531
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:32,399
Speaker 4: Wow.

532
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:36,040
Speaker 1: I don't know. It starts a lot of energy. It's cool.

533
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:42,040
Speaker 1: And I found two pairs of boots, so that's cool.

534
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:49,480
Speaker 1: And yeah, lots of cool stuff. I'm so like, still

535
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 1: stressed out about talking and that I am. I cannot

536
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:54,480
Speaker 1: really think of that.

537
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:59,239
Speaker 2: We've been, We've been, We've been. We've been cooking for

538
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:02,840
Speaker 2: forty minutes, doing great, brother, thank you for offering offering

539
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 2: the people your time. You have a very interesting story.

540
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:08,360
Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you.

541
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 2: I have a few more questions for you if you're

542
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 2: still down to cook. We've got some interesting questions here. Yeah,

543
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 2: someone said, has a stranger ever just walked in the cave?

544
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 5: Mm?

545
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:21,640
Speaker 2: Hm.

546
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 1: The people that live in the area pretty much go

547
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:37,680
Speaker 1: by the uh social law. I don't know if it's

548
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 1: social law, I don't know how to call it. But

549
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 1: no one ever like goes to any one place without

550
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 1: without permission, and yeah we are Yeah, we're good. We're good.

551
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 1: There's no problem with no problems with got.

552
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:04,160
Speaker 2: Uh. Let's see here. Oh yeah, do you have like

553
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:05,920
Speaker 2: water or gas in the cave?

554
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:12,440
Speaker 1: I don't have water. I have a tab that I

555
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:16,440
Speaker 1: go to and it's like ten minutes from here. And

556
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 1: also like fifteen minutes from my place, there's a little

557
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:24,319
Speaker 1: so if I need to buy drinking water, I can

558
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:28,600
Speaker 1: just by like sixteen meters, get them to my backpack

559
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:32,799
Speaker 1: and walk here. And I didn't have a gas. I

560
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:36,840
Speaker 1: have a fireplace and I have some pots that I found,

561
00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:39,680
Speaker 1: so if I need to cook something, I just chip shoop.

562
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:44,520
Speaker 2: All right, we got one. I'll do one last question here.

563
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:47,719
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I don't know if you know this, but like,

564
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 2: does the Spanish government care that people are living in caves?

565
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:55,040
Speaker 2: Someone asks that. Yeah, I'm curious about that too, does

566
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 2: like does the government or like the police or like

567
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:01,759
Speaker 2: does anyone ask you guys or do they not really

568
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:02,279
Speaker 2: give a fuck?

569
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:10,520
Speaker 1: It depends if you are living like in the places

570
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:16,239
Speaker 1: that tourists tourist goes to, like on the beach, they

571
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 1: throw people, they throw people out, but they are not

572
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:23,360
Speaker 1: like harresting anybody or her as anybody. And in the

573
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 1: place that I live living, there's there were no like

574
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:31,280
Speaker 1: situations and the police are pretty chill with the hippies.

575
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 2: What is this place called again?

576
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:39,839
Speaker 1: Uh? I mean I am on Canary Islands, and on

577
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:44,240
Speaker 1: every every island there you can find like some hippie

578
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 1: community and people living in the nature or in the

579
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:53,840
Speaker 1: case or anywhere else. But the biggest, biggest, biggest community

580
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 1: is on Tenary.

581
00:41:55,600 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 2: Islands tenor Refile. Oh okay, wow, interesting the Canary Islands

582
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 2: Autonomous Community of Spain. Whoa, this place looks crazy.

583
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:16,480
Speaker 1: And also they have like two capitals on separate islands

584
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:23,880
Speaker 1: and they like I think they change like the capital

585
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 1: every few years. It's weird.

586
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:34,440
Speaker 2: Interesting. So tener Reef is So you live on a

587
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:35,800
Speaker 2: cave in Tenerief.

588
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:37,839
Speaker 1: Pretty much?

589
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:42,920
Speaker 2: Wow, I'm looking at Google images of this ship. This

590
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:46,440
Speaker 2: is crazy and it's pretty much. You know what's funny

591
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:48,600
Speaker 2: is with I feel like there's got to be at

592
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:53,880
Speaker 2: least what I truly do predict at least one person

593
00:42:54,560 --> 00:43:00,239
Speaker 2: listening to this podcast will fucking go visit Tennery.

594
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:01,320
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, because.

595
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:03,879
Speaker 2: Hell yeah, go ahead.

596
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:11,080
Speaker 1: I met a guy from the US just like maybe

597
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 1: a week ago, and he was like dressed in all

598
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:17,360
Speaker 1: the red in the devil costume, and he was talking

599
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 1: some shit about Satanism, and he was pretty fucking cool.

600
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:27,520
Speaker 1: And he had like this what is called the fork there,

601
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 1: big red fork with him and he was just walking around.

602
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 1: So yeah, and I also I also knew the guy

603
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:40,760
Speaker 1: from New York that leaves pretty close to me, So yeah,

604
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:44,440
Speaker 1: I mean it's pretty cool. It's pretty cool. You can

605
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 1: leave a very low budget here, you can just hanger out,

606
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:50,480
Speaker 1: hang around.

607
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:56,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you've got you. At least one person will

608
00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:59,920
Speaker 2: hear this podcast and be like, fucking I'm moving to Tannery.

609
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:04,520
Speaker 2: It's funny because you opened this phone if you'll remember,

610
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:07,959
Speaker 2: you open to this phone call by being like, Hey,

611
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:13,719
Speaker 2: does anyone want to come live in a cave with me? Which, upfront, upfront,

612
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:17,840
Speaker 2: with zero context, is a bit of a rough pitch,

613
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:21,400
Speaker 2: but I'll say, over the past forty five minutes, you

614
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:26,799
Speaker 2: have successfully pitched the concept of going to live in

615
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 2: a cave with you, and I feel like at least

616
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:33,600
Speaker 2: a few people listening will take you up on the solfare. Yeah,

617
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:35,359
Speaker 2: there's a lot of places like this where it's like

618
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:41,200
Speaker 2: the the cost of getting there is the highest cost,

619
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:45,680
Speaker 2: and then once you're there, you're just chilling because yeah,

620
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:48,520
Speaker 2: I don't know, if you're like fucking if you're young,

621
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:51,200
Speaker 2: if you're I don't know, man, if you're young and

622
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:57,000
Speaker 2: broke and you wanna fucking do something interesting with your

623
00:44:57,239 --> 00:45:02,759
Speaker 2: life before you dive into corporate whatever, you know, why

624
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:05,400
Speaker 2: not why not go live in a cave for a

625
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 2: bit and hang out and meet weird people and you know,

626
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:09,720
Speaker 2: live a little.

627
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:13,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's also a lot of people who are just

628
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 1: like leaving the cave and like searching for a job

629
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:22,799
Speaker 1: here and actually working and saving money, and the rest

630
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:24,720
Speaker 1: of the day they are just spending on the beach

631
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:28,880
Speaker 1: and in the cave and it's from the trash or

632
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:33,240
Speaker 1: in like have their own community and foot together.

633
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:36,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I mean, yeah, folks are working there. You know,

634
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:39,520
Speaker 2: there are people there who are like working, saving money,

635
00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:43,200
Speaker 2: still kind of building, still doing things to kind of

636
00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:46,759
Speaker 2: prepare for their future. But also you know, eating from

637
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:52,439
Speaker 2: the trash and hanging out with folks. Pretty much, pretty cool,

638
00:45:53,080 --> 00:46:02,680
Speaker 2: pretty cool cavemano Polish, cave man, Polish. Can I know

639
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:04,920
Speaker 2: you said you were stressed out, but this was a

640
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:09,399
Speaker 2: great phone call. I really appreciate you, uh, giving us

641
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:13,439
Speaker 2: all of your time, my friend, this was this was awesome. Yeah,

642
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:17,040
Speaker 2: Like I said this, this might inspire a lot of folks.

643
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:21,319
Speaker 2: So I appreciate you putting yourself out there. And you're

644
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:24,399
Speaker 2: so fucking young too, man, you gotta you have an

645
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:27,480
Speaker 2: interesting life ahead of you.

646
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a pretty cool It's a pretty cool start.

647
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:33,960
Speaker 1: I am very glad that I met a lot of

648
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:38,440
Speaker 1: like beautiful people that helped me out on my like

649
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:43,439
Speaker 1: puff and I'm pretty stoked about living.

650
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:51,440
Speaker 2: Caveman. Uh, is there anything else that you want to

651
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:54,239
Speaker 2: say about any of this, or that you want to

652
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:57,640
Speaker 2: talk about or any any final things before we go?

653
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:02,719
Speaker 1: I had a lot of topics in my mind to

654
00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:09,520
Speaker 1: talk with you, but we like talk mostly about the caves.

655
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:12,080
Speaker 1: And I get it. It's a I'm living in a cave,

656
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 1: so this is like a final goodbye? Or can I

657
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:19,360
Speaker 1: like say something more?

658
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:22,879
Speaker 2: Well, let's how long have we've been talking. We've been talking? Well,

659
00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 2: you know, honestly, we've been talking for forty seven minutes. Yeah,

660
00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:31,719
Speaker 2: fuck it. I mean, if you if you have something else,

661
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:32,839
Speaker 2: we can we can keep going.

662
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:39,480
Speaker 1: M I mean, I want to, like because the living

663
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:41,400
Speaker 1: in a cave is one thing. And I want to

664
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:46,400
Speaker 1: kinda tell you what I'm thinking about doing next.

665
00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:48,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, sure, let's do that. Why not? What do you

666
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:49,600
Speaker 2: think about doing next?

667
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:56,440
Speaker 1: So, first thing, when I'm gonna like return to something

668
00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:59,359
Speaker 1: in the reef, I think I'm gonna go to festivals.

669
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:06,160
Speaker 1: And I was pretty inspired by the guy who I

670
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:11,080
Speaker 1: don't know that his is like Instagram profile what he's called,

671
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:20,000
Speaker 1: but he has something that that's called the Last Supper Project,

672
00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:22,640
Speaker 1: and I was very inspired by that and I'm thinking

673
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:27,120
Speaker 1: about doing my own version of it. So basically, he

674
00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:32,360
Speaker 1: suffers from a very strong bipolar disorder and he's gonna

675
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:39,680
Speaker 1: take his own life in from legal if if i'managia

676
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:47,399
Speaker 1: Autnasia and a lot of people like invite invite him

677
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:54,280
Speaker 1: from dinner for dinner, and he talks about like mental

678
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:58,440
Speaker 1: health and he loves food and he likes spread the

679
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:05,400
Speaker 1: spread awareness about depression and this whole process, and he

680
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:10,400
Speaker 1: also like holds dinners for people. Actually I cannot want.

681
00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:12,520
Speaker 2: To hear I've actually heard of this guy. Yeah, I've

682
00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:16,279
Speaker 2: heard of this guy. Yeah, yeah, and.

683
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:21,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, he like I started to think a lot about

684
00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:26,920
Speaker 1: like concept of death and taking your life if you

685
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:31,360
Speaker 1: like suffers. If you are suffering for like some like

686
00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:37,040
Speaker 1: strong ship, you cannot live with it. And having like

687
00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:40,440
Speaker 1: sharing a meal with someone and cooking for someone, it's

688
00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:44,960
Speaker 1: a beautiful thing. And I'm thinking about if I'm gonna

689
00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:49,160
Speaker 1: have my own place and I want to explore cooking,

690
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:53,400
Speaker 1: and I think I'm gonna like maybe do some posts

691
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:59,319
Speaker 1: on Facebook that I'm searching for people that that are

692
00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:05,719
Speaker 1: lone or struggle with depression and cook them, cook them

693
00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:09,960
Speaker 1: food and create like a safe space for them. And

694
00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:14,839
Speaker 1: that's yeah, yeah, I really want to do that.

695
00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:18,719
Speaker 2: That's a wonderful idea. I I love the idea. I

696
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:21,920
Speaker 2: really think you should do that, because you know, I

697
00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:27,560
Speaker 2: was thinking, I'm like, uh, yeah, it's no fucking secret.

698
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:29,719
Speaker 2: I talk on this podcast a lot about the you know,

699
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:33,439
Speaker 2: being fucking depressed or whatever, and it's like, ah, there's

700
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:35,920
Speaker 2: so many other there's so there. I can think of

701
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:39,200
Speaker 2: like a thousand different things to try before killing yourself,

702
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:42,600
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. There's so many different like, uh,

703
00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:47,960
Speaker 2: there's so many different hail Mary's to throw before killing yourself.

704
00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:49,759
Speaker 2: And that's all a take because you'll be in your

705
00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:51,640
Speaker 2: because like I'll you know, whatever, you'll be in your

706
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:55,040
Speaker 2: room and you're like in your underwear, you're like depressed,

707
00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:56,480
Speaker 2: or you're on your phone and you're like, yeah, I

708
00:50:56,480 --> 00:50:59,239
Speaker 2: think I should fucking kill myself. And then all of

709
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:01,400
Speaker 2: a sudden, you put on clothes and you're in a

710
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:04,760
Speaker 2: room with lights and you're around other people or whatever,

711
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:07,479
Speaker 2: and something switches in your brain and you're like, oh shit,

712
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:14,640
Speaker 2: I actually something I was. I was limited by my

713
00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:19,200
Speaker 2: own brain in that moment. You know, I literally I

714
00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:23,520
Speaker 2: was fogged out. I couldn't see. So of course that's

715
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:26,839
Speaker 2: I thought that was the only option, you know. So

716
00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:28,920
Speaker 2: it's like, I think having something, have it because you

717
00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:31,799
Speaker 2: could that, right, Because that's awesome, because like somebody could

718
00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:36,640
Speaker 2: be in the fucking throes of darkness and then all

719
00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:39,520
Speaker 2: of a sudden they, you know, go to your dinner

720
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:42,720
Speaker 2: and there's other people around, and they're like, oh shit, Okay,

721
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:45,320
Speaker 2: this doesn't have to be this way all the time.

722
00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:49,520
Speaker 2: You know, that's all it takes. Every Now, I'm not

723
00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:51,000
Speaker 2: going to say that's all it takes, because I don't

724
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:54,600
Speaker 2: think that's literally all it takes. But no, no, I

725
00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:57,000
Speaker 2: don't think that's all it takes at all. But you

726
00:51:57,040 --> 00:51:59,160
Speaker 2: know what I mean, I'm rambling a little bit, but

727
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:03,160
Speaker 2: I'm just kind of talking from my own experience.

728
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:09,560
Speaker 1: I mean, I love like you can talk about ship

729
00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:11,919
Speaker 1: So I'm good.

730
00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:16,600
Speaker 2: But I think I think that's a fucking great idea. Man,

731
00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:17,759
Speaker 2: that's a great purpose to have.

732
00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:24,560
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. All right, So that was the one thing

733
00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:26,399
Speaker 1: that I want to talk to and I think I'm

734
00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:29,880
Speaker 1: pretty much finished. I just want to help people and

735
00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:34,480
Speaker 1: make the world a little better place.

736
00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:43,120
Speaker 2: My brother, my cave, my cave man. H this was

737
00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:46,880
Speaker 2: a great phone call. I really appreciate you sharing all

738
00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:51,040
Speaker 2: this stuff with us. I love that you're taking a

739
00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:54,680
Speaker 2: problem that you have had and trying to find a

740
00:52:54,680 --> 00:52:56,879
Speaker 2: way to help other people with the problem. I think

741
00:52:56,920 --> 00:53:02,800
Speaker 2: that's pretty sweet. Yeah, you've definitely inspired some folks listening

742
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:06,840
Speaker 2: to this, I'm sure. And uh yeah, maybe I'll go

743
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:09,640
Speaker 2: visit the Canary Islands. I'm curious now, I want to

744
00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:10,439
Speaker 2: go see some shit.

745
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:14,480
Speaker 1: Do you on to visit me? I'm gonna show you

746
00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:17,480
Speaker 1: the islands and I do like a bit.

747
00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:20,560
Speaker 2: Sorry, Well, you know, it's fun I feel like I

748
00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:22,600
Speaker 2: have You know, what is funny is I have this

749
00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:26,880
Speaker 2: whole I actually have a I have a list. Last

750
00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:30,880
Speaker 2: year I made a little list on my phone. I

751
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:33,439
Speaker 2: like screenshoted a bunch of d MS that I got

752
00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:38,000
Speaker 2: from people being like, Hey, come to Pakistan, or Hey

753
00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:40,920
Speaker 2: come to Singapore, or hey come to whatever. I'll show

754
00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:42,920
Speaker 2: you around because I've done that a couple of times.

755
00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:46,640
Speaker 2: I did that in Thailand and Guatemala and Mexico and

756
00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:51,640
Speaker 2: you know, uh, we had that break dancer guy who

757
00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:56,239
Speaker 2: was like, Hey, come to Tijuana and you know, I'm

758
00:53:56,360 --> 00:53:59,000
Speaker 2: chilling right now. But I don't know. Maybe one day

759
00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:00,840
Speaker 2: I'll men.

760
00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:04,920
Speaker 1: Imagine that we can host your show in the cave.

761
00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:11,680
Speaker 2: Okay, that does sound pretty sweet. That does sound pretty sweet.

762
00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:15,359
Speaker 2: Where can people look? Man? Do you have a where

763
00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:17,320
Speaker 2: can people follow you on something? There's a couple of

764
00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:20,200
Speaker 2: people in the twitch chat who wanted to follow Like,

765
00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:22,960
Speaker 2: if people want to well, let's say this, right, let's

766
00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:26,880
Speaker 2: say this. Let's say people want to follow you on

767
00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:31,080
Speaker 2: your cave adventures. Let's say some random motherfucker listening to

768
00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:35,400
Speaker 2: this podcast wants to take you up on your dinner

769
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:38,760
Speaker 2: for depressed people or living in the cave. If people

770
00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:40,520
Speaker 2: want to connect with you, you don't. By the way,

771
00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:43,520
Speaker 2: you don't. If you want to stay completely anonymous, I

772
00:54:43,560 --> 00:54:47,920
Speaker 2: respect that you totally can. But if if, if, if

773
00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:49,720
Speaker 2: you want to take the message.

774
00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:52,920
Speaker 1: On the on the chat, if we gonna end this

775
00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:55,839
Speaker 1: call and people can type me a message if they

776
00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:56,239
Speaker 1: wanted to.

777
00:54:56,680 --> 00:54:58,400
Speaker 2: Okay, so you don't wanna you don't want to put

778
00:54:58,440 --> 00:54:59,840
Speaker 2: yourself out there to the podcast?

779
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:07,200
Speaker 5: Mm hmm what oh well, if people, I'm saying, if people,

780
00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:09,120
Speaker 5: If people want to follow you or connect with you,

781
00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:11,000
Speaker 5: if you want to give them an outlet to do that,

782
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:11,319
Speaker 5: you can.

783
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:12,480
Speaker 2: But if not, that's okay.

784
00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:16,280
Speaker 1: No, I don't have any like I have my private

785
00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:19,800
Speaker 1: account on Instagram, but I want to kind of stay.

786
00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:22,279
Speaker 2: They stay around. I got you, I got you, I

787
00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:26,480
Speaker 2: got you, I got you. Caveman, thank you very much

788
00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:29,359
Speaker 2: for sharing your story with us. Any anything else before

789
00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:29,640
Speaker 2: we go?

790
00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:35,120
Speaker 1: Uh, I want to say to the people of the computer,

791
00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:40,799
Speaker 1: if you are depressed and you are thinking about what

792
00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:44,760
Speaker 1: is the purpose of living, just go and buy yourself

793
00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:49,400
Speaker 1: ice cream and yeah, ice cream are pretty cool. They

794
00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:51,480
Speaker 1: help help me with a lot of shit.

795
00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:55,080
Speaker 2: Thank you very much for calling cave Man. Have you

796
00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:56,960
Speaker 2: the rest of the day.

797
00:55:57,600 --> 00:56:00,840
Speaker 1: It's a while, Thank you, b y.

798
00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:06,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, ice cream is pretty sweet. That was great. That

799
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:10,560
Speaker 2: was great. Uh. Yeah, I'm inspired. Now I want to

800
00:56:10,560 --> 00:56:15,839
Speaker 2: go visit the fucking Tenor Reef Islands. I mean, why

801
00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:20,719
Speaker 2: not why not visit the tenerif violence? Why not go

802
00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:25,000
Speaker 2: live in a cave and talk to people? Why not

803
00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:28,359
Speaker 2: do any of this stuff? I don't know. There's got

804
00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:31,480
Speaker 2: there's guy I don't know why I almost threw up

805
00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:37,080
Speaker 2: just now. Yeah, that's cool. If if I feel like, yeah,

806
00:56:37,080 --> 00:56:39,239
Speaker 2: there's gotta at least somebody who's listening to this, who's like,

807
00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:41,280
Speaker 2: you know what, fucking I'm gonna go to the teneriviolence.

808
00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:45,360
Speaker 2: Maybe that maybe that's maybe I'm projecting, Maybe that's somebody

809
00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:47,719
Speaker 2: is me. Maybe I gotta go live in the go

810
00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:53,640
Speaker 2: live in a fucking cave and the tenoriviolence could be fun. Uh,

811
00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:58,120
Speaker 2: thank you for calling cave man. And yeah, ice cream

812
00:56:58,200 --> 00:57:02,440
Speaker 2: is good. Uh uh. Sometimes when I get depressed, I

813
00:57:02,760 --> 00:57:06,439
Speaker 2: eat an orange creamsicle and it makes things at least

814
00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:10,759
Speaker 2: five percent better. Hey, what's your name, Doug?

815
00:57:12,840 --> 00:57:13,720
Speaker 3: We'll go with stinky.

816
00:57:14,560 --> 00:57:16,280
Speaker 2: I don't I don't like the work. Can I can

817
00:57:16,320 --> 00:57:18,440
Speaker 2: I call you something? I'm gonna I don't like. I

818
00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:21,560
Speaker 2: hate saying stinky for some reason. It it it it

819
00:57:21,560 --> 00:57:23,480
Speaker 2: puts me off. Can I call you something else?

820
00:57:24,800 --> 00:57:25,040
Speaker 1: Sure?

821
00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:26,240
Speaker 3: Or anything you want.

822
00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:30,400
Speaker 2: I'll call you Steve. What's up, Steve, what's up?

823
00:57:30,520 --> 00:57:34,160
Speaker 3: Man? We've a We've only talked one time prior, but

824
00:57:34,240 --> 00:57:37,840
Speaker 3: it was on a TikTok video comments or whatever.

825
00:57:38,840 --> 00:57:42,000
Speaker 2: We talked on TikTok video, cause that doesn't really sound

826
00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:43,200
Speaker 2: like we had a conversation.

827
00:57:44,680 --> 00:57:46,720
Speaker 3: Well, it's funny you brought up you don't like stinky

828
00:57:46,760 --> 00:57:50,400
Speaker 3: because I use your name was like something something stinky

829
00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:53,760
Speaker 3: and I said, love them the content, and you were like,

830
00:57:54,320 --> 00:57:55,760
Speaker 3: thank stinky and.

831
00:57:55,720 --> 00:57:58,200
Speaker 2: Then like I'm gonna go I'm gonna go ahead and

832
00:57:58,240 --> 00:58:01,200
Speaker 2: say that does not count as a conversation. So this

833
00:58:01,400 --> 00:58:04,760
Speaker 2: this would be the first time we're talking fair.

834
00:58:04,800 --> 00:58:07,360
Speaker 3: Totally fair man. I'm pretty pumped. I've been listening to

835
00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:10,160
Speaker 3: you for like, gosh, like four or five years now, dude,

836
00:58:10,240 --> 00:58:10,800
Speaker 3: kick ass man.

837
00:58:10,840 --> 00:58:14,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's crazy. This summer it'll be five fucking years

838
00:58:14,120 --> 00:58:15,960
Speaker 2: of the therapy. Gecko.

839
00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:19,880
Speaker 3: You're looking good. By the way, Thanks, I say that,

840
00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:22,400
Speaker 3: I checked the same. I don't usually watch live, but

841
00:58:22,440 --> 00:58:24,160
Speaker 3: I did today because I have Thanks.

842
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:28,400
Speaker 2: Brother, Thank you brother. I'm down thirty pounds since I

843
00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:34,520
Speaker 2: finished my tour last year. Sweet, so I'm trying to

844
00:58:34,560 --> 00:58:39,200
Speaker 2: be less fat. Being fat it was not fun. I'm

845
00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:43,200
Speaker 2: eighteen pounds away from my goal weight. I'm trying to

846
00:58:43,240 --> 00:58:47,000
Speaker 2: be as skinny as I was before I started being

847
00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:51,080
Speaker 2: the gecko. Uh so we're almost there. But enough about me.

848
00:58:51,160 --> 00:58:53,240
Speaker 2: Who cares? What's up with you, Steve? What do you

849
00:58:53,240 --> 00:58:54,120
Speaker 2: want to talk about today?

850
00:58:56,920 --> 00:58:59,280
Speaker 3: Okay? I work in Atlanta, and I know you mentioned

851
00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:02,920
Speaker 3: Atlanta sometimes, but I work with in the film industry

852
00:59:03,880 --> 00:59:06,640
Speaker 3: and it's kind of a stressful industry to work in.

853
00:59:07,240 --> 00:59:13,640
Speaker 2: Oh uh yeah. I worked on set in Atlanta for

854
00:59:13,720 --> 00:59:16,960
Speaker 2: a summer and it was yeah, it's what are you

855
00:59:17,040 --> 00:59:17,400
Speaker 2: a PA?

856
00:59:19,440 --> 00:59:22,280
Speaker 3: So I kind of bounce between doing PA stuff, but

857
00:59:22,280 --> 00:59:25,440
Speaker 3: I'm actually I am in the union now, so I

858
00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:27,680
Speaker 3: am like a props assist, but I also dabble in

859
00:59:27,720 --> 00:59:28,880
Speaker 3: a set deck as well.

860
00:59:29,680 --> 00:59:33,680
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, you probably work like eighty hours a.

861
00:59:33,640 --> 00:59:39,440
Speaker 3: Week when I do work. Yes, yeah, exactly.

862
00:59:39,600 --> 00:59:41,040
Speaker 2: I mean that's how it works down there, right, is

863
00:59:41,080 --> 00:59:44,200
Speaker 2: you work like you'll work for like eighty hours a

864
00:59:44,240 --> 00:59:46,760
Speaker 2: week for like a month, and then work like zero

865
00:59:46,920 --> 00:59:49,960
Speaker 2: hours a week for like, you know, a few weeks,

866
00:59:50,080 --> 00:59:52,760
Speaker 2: and then right It's like it's very like super on

867
00:59:52,920 --> 00:59:53,760
Speaker 2: and super off.

868
00:59:53,880 --> 00:59:56,600
Speaker 3: Isn't it very correct?

869
00:59:56,680 --> 00:59:56,840
Speaker 1: Yeah?

870
00:59:56,880 --> 00:59:59,760
Speaker 3: I mean it totally depends on whatever like production companies

871
00:59:59,800 --> 01:00:02,880
Speaker 3: do and the gigs. Some gigs are done like a month,

872
01:00:02,960 --> 01:00:05,440
Speaker 3: two months, some are done in six months. I know

873
01:00:06,120 --> 01:00:08,920
Speaker 3: Stranger Things is on for like over a year plus,

874
01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:11,600
Speaker 3: so that would be a nice gig to be Oh,

875
01:00:11,800 --> 01:00:14,240
Speaker 3: but I've also heard that it gets a little crazy

876
01:00:14,320 --> 01:00:15,560
Speaker 3: over there sometimes.

877
01:00:15,920 --> 01:00:18,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, although I will say I kind of that method

878
01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:24,200
Speaker 2: of working, I actually think is pretty I actually think

879
01:00:24,200 --> 01:00:26,800
Speaker 2: that's a I mean, everyone's kind of different, right, but

880
01:00:26,920 --> 01:00:29,520
Speaker 2: like that's kind of like a nice balance, right, because

881
01:00:30,240 --> 01:00:33,600
Speaker 2: I would rather have like a short period of I

882
01:00:33,600 --> 01:00:35,400
Speaker 2: would rather have like a period of time where like

883
01:00:35,520 --> 01:00:38,600
Speaker 2: all I'm doing is working, and then a period of

884
01:00:38,600 --> 01:00:42,440
Speaker 2: time where all I'm doing is not working, versus like

885
01:00:42,600 --> 01:00:45,760
Speaker 2: working a little bit every single day, you know, because

886
01:00:45,800 --> 01:00:47,920
Speaker 2: now because you can you feel like, I mean, I

887
01:00:48,120 --> 01:00:50,000
Speaker 2: don't know, what do you like that lifestyle?

888
01:00:51,280 --> 01:00:53,440
Speaker 3: It's and that's kind of like what I wanted to

889
01:00:53,480 --> 01:00:56,400
Speaker 3: talk about, because like a lot of people want to

890
01:00:56,400 --> 01:00:58,880
Speaker 3: get into the film industry for like total you know,

891
01:00:59,200 --> 01:01:02,400
Speaker 3: understandable reasons. I think something that they don't really like

892
01:01:02,520 --> 01:01:05,680
Speaker 3: acknowledge is that you don't work unless you have someone

893
01:01:05,720 --> 01:01:09,919
Speaker 3: who can hire you two work and then that only Yeah,

894
01:01:09,960 --> 01:01:12,560
Speaker 3: that only goes on for however long the actual gig is.

895
01:01:12,720 --> 01:01:15,520
Speaker 3: But me personally, I don't mind working for like four

896
01:01:15,600 --> 01:01:18,320
Speaker 3: or five months straight, maybe a little month or two

897
01:01:18,360 --> 01:01:20,480
Speaker 3: off and then go back to work. But I just

898
01:01:20,520 --> 01:01:23,120
Speaker 3: hopped off a project like last week. I've had a

899
01:01:23,160 --> 01:01:27,280
Speaker 3: week off now and getting a little bored man, getting

900
01:01:27,280 --> 01:01:29,000
Speaker 3: a little in my head. But I just got to

901
01:01:29,080 --> 01:01:31,560
Speaker 3: know that things will be on the way soon.

902
01:01:33,040 --> 01:01:34,080
Speaker 2: What are you in your head about?

903
01:01:35,800 --> 01:01:39,880
Speaker 3: Uh, just because you know, like when you work for

904
01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:42,080
Speaker 3: a month or a month or two or however long

905
01:01:42,080 --> 01:01:46,000
Speaker 3: your project is, and then your gig's over, You're like, yeah,

906
01:01:46,000 --> 01:01:47,720
Speaker 3: here's my last day. It was the last day I'll

907
01:01:47,760 --> 01:01:51,200
Speaker 3: be working, and then not knowing when something else is

908
01:01:51,240 --> 01:01:54,560
Speaker 3: going to come in. You're like, I might not be

909
01:01:54,640 --> 01:01:58,280
Speaker 3: working for two weeks, might not be working for two months.

910
01:01:58,840 --> 01:02:00,960
Speaker 3: And then with the strike that happened like a year

911
01:02:01,000 --> 01:02:02,920
Speaker 3: or so ago, like most people didn't work for like

912
01:02:02,960 --> 01:02:04,160
Speaker 3: six months, which.

913
01:02:04,000 --> 01:02:08,320
Speaker 2: Is yeah, pretty tough. I mean that is the nature

914
01:02:08,560 --> 01:02:15,080
Speaker 2: of the film industry, right ye is you have no

915
01:02:15,200 --> 01:02:19,000
Speaker 2: idea when your next gig is going to be. I

916
01:02:19,040 --> 01:02:21,960
Speaker 2: guess that's the nature of like freelance work in general.

917
01:02:23,240 --> 01:02:24,520
Speaker 1: Yep, exactly.

918
01:02:25,160 --> 01:02:29,400
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean when you when you are on set,

919
01:02:29,520 --> 01:02:31,400
Speaker 2: do you like it or is it? Is it crazy?

920
01:02:32,800 --> 01:02:32,960
Speaker 5: Oh?

921
01:02:33,040 --> 01:02:33,600
Speaker 1: I love it?

922
01:02:33,760 --> 01:02:36,840
Speaker 3: Being on set is super fun. I knew I wanted

923
01:02:36,840 --> 01:02:40,640
Speaker 3: to be in the movies when I was like six

924
01:02:40,840 --> 01:02:43,240
Speaker 3: or so. Maybe not like the in them, but you know,

925
01:02:43,760 --> 01:02:47,280
Speaker 3: have something to do with the creation of them. And

926
01:02:47,360 --> 01:02:49,560
Speaker 3: so whenever I got my first gig as a PA,

927
01:02:49,720 --> 01:02:53,880
Speaker 3: which was in Props, I got super lucky with getting

928
01:02:53,920 --> 01:02:57,640
Speaker 3: to have on set experience with that, and oh my gosh,

929
01:02:58,000 --> 01:03:00,280
Speaker 3: it's so fun getting to work with everyone and just

930
01:03:00,280 --> 01:03:04,680
Speaker 3: seeing how these like huge budgeted shows and movies get

931
01:03:04,680 --> 01:03:08,800
Speaker 3: made is really it's amazing. And it's also like, holy fuck,

932
01:03:08,840 --> 01:03:12,600
Speaker 3: we spend a lot of money, Like so much money, dude.

933
01:03:14,480 --> 01:03:18,440
Speaker 2: It's really insane how I feel like I have these

934
01:03:18,480 --> 01:03:22,840
Speaker 2: kinds of inside baseball conversations about like movie shit on

935
01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:25,440
Speaker 2: the podcast A Bunch, but I do like having them.

936
01:03:25,600 --> 01:03:31,600
Speaker 2: It's insane how much fucking money it costs to make

937
01:03:32,400 --> 01:03:36,520
Speaker 2: TV shows and movies. And I always for for like,

938
01:03:36,520 --> 01:03:40,800
Speaker 2: like fucking I used to work on this set of uh,

939
01:03:41,720 --> 01:03:43,360
Speaker 2: who cares about this? I used to work on the

940
01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:47,919
Speaker 2: set of like an adult swim show that aired at

941
01:03:47,960 --> 01:03:52,720
Speaker 2: like four o'clock in the morning that people, I don't

942
01:03:52,720 --> 01:03:57,000
Speaker 2: think it had a lot of viewers. And I was

943
01:03:57,080 --> 01:04:02,080
Speaker 2: talking to somebody like who worked in like the production office,

944
01:04:02,920 --> 01:04:07,080
Speaker 2: and they mentioned that a season of this show cost

945
01:04:07,360 --> 01:04:12,160
Speaker 2: four million dollars to make. And I'm like, and you

946
01:04:12,160 --> 01:04:15,360
Speaker 2: know the crazy thing, And you know this, four million

947
01:04:15,440 --> 01:04:20,640
Speaker 2: dollars in film and television universe is not that much money.

948
01:04:21,440 --> 01:04:22,600
Speaker 3: It is not a lot.

949
01:04:22,720 --> 01:04:24,640
Speaker 2: No, it's not a lot of money, which is crazy

950
01:04:24,640 --> 01:04:27,960
Speaker 2: because in real life, four million dollars is a fucking

951
01:04:28,000 --> 01:04:28,960
Speaker 2: shit ton of money.

952
01:04:29,840 --> 01:04:34,160
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it's a life four million dollars.

953
01:04:34,640 --> 01:04:36,360
Speaker 2: Saying amount of You can do so many things for

954
01:04:36,360 --> 01:04:41,600
Speaker 2: four million dollars, and then for some somehow they spend

955
01:04:41,600 --> 01:04:45,360
Speaker 2: four million dollars to make a TV show that nobody watches.

956
01:04:45,880 --> 01:04:50,440
Speaker 2: How the fuck is that a good financial investment? And

957
01:04:50,560 --> 01:04:55,320
Speaker 2: yet the Hollywood is doing it, you know, I mean

958
01:04:55,400 --> 01:04:57,480
Speaker 2: for four million how many Like if you if you're

959
01:04:57,480 --> 01:05:02,439
Speaker 2: trying to make money, there's infinite better things you could

960
01:05:02,440 --> 01:05:06,400
Speaker 2: do with four million dollars. Then make a season of

961
01:05:06,440 --> 01:05:08,240
Speaker 2: a TV show that nobody's fucking watching.

962
01:05:09,520 --> 01:05:12,280
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, there's that. And then you have actually

963
01:05:12,360 --> 01:05:16,400
Speaker 3: worked on laid the like second time it was getting made,

964
01:05:16,920 --> 01:05:19,080
Speaker 3: and the amount of money that they put into that

965
01:05:19,080 --> 01:05:23,920
Speaker 3: that hasn't even been released yet. Oh man, I couldn't

966
01:05:23,960 --> 01:05:26,320
Speaker 3: even I don't even want to think about it.

967
01:05:26,320 --> 01:05:32,400
Speaker 2: It's crazy shit, it's crazy shit. Well let's see here.

968
01:05:34,960 --> 01:05:40,160
Speaker 2: What's your name Ago, Oh, Steve, Steve, Steve. Well, what

969
01:05:40,200 --> 01:05:41,600
Speaker 2: have you been doing in your off time?

970
01:05:43,840 --> 01:05:46,640
Speaker 3: In my off time? I'm going to sound like a nerd,

971
01:05:46,720 --> 01:05:52,800
Speaker 3: but I three D print armor, like Mandalorian armor, like

972
01:05:53,000 --> 01:05:56,280
Speaker 3: just on the side. So I've just been redesigning that,

973
01:05:56,480 --> 01:05:59,280
Speaker 3: printing that out because it was working in props. It

974
01:05:59,320 --> 01:06:01,400
Speaker 3: also does kind of helped just to have a little

975
01:06:01,440 --> 01:06:04,400
Speaker 3: bit of a you know, background knowledge on how to

976
01:06:04,440 --> 01:06:07,680
Speaker 3: put this together in case something happens on set. Yeah,

977
01:06:08,000 --> 01:06:09,320
Speaker 3: just being good with your hands.

978
01:06:09,760 --> 01:06:14,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you three D print armor?

979
01:06:15,880 --> 01:06:16,440
Speaker 1: Yeah?

980
01:06:16,760 --> 01:06:19,280
Speaker 2: Is it? I I feel like we I mean, the material,

981
01:06:20,520 --> 01:06:23,360
Speaker 2: the three D printing material is kind of crappy, isn't it.

982
01:06:24,840 --> 01:06:26,480
Speaker 3: Oh well yeah, I mean I'm not trying to get

983
01:06:26,520 --> 01:06:29,080
Speaker 3: shot with this, but you know, whenever I get a

984
01:06:29,080 --> 01:06:31,320
Speaker 3: little high go to a convention, I feel pretty cool.

985
01:06:32,880 --> 01:06:37,440
Speaker 2: Uh plastic Okay, so it's all plastic, like you're not

986
01:06:37,760 --> 01:06:40,400
Speaker 2: This isn't like you're not You're not taking this into

987
01:06:40,400 --> 01:06:42,680
Speaker 2: battle with you.

988
01:06:42,680 --> 01:06:44,960
Speaker 3: No, but there are there are people out there that

989
01:06:45,040 --> 01:06:48,920
Speaker 3: do make their armor with iron and they like hand

990
01:06:49,080 --> 01:06:52,240
Speaker 3: hammer it and yeah that's impressive. I'm not there yet,

991
01:06:52,360 --> 01:06:53,840
Speaker 3: but we'll see. You never know.

992
01:06:56,520 --> 01:06:59,560
Speaker 2: Interesting, Well, what's your what's your dream? Steve? What do

993
01:06:59,560 --> 01:07:02,480
Speaker 2: you want to do with your life before you die?

994
01:07:04,400 --> 01:07:05,320
Speaker 3: Before I die?

995
01:07:06,040 --> 01:07:06,360
Speaker 5: Well?

996
01:07:07,560 --> 01:07:11,720
Speaker 3: Pretty I guess I'm somewhat content with the job I

997
01:07:11,760 --> 01:07:15,440
Speaker 3: have now, But I don't know. I guess, like everyone

998
01:07:15,440 --> 01:07:17,960
Speaker 3: who would be nice just to be able to enjoy

999
01:07:18,200 --> 01:07:21,400
Speaker 3: life and go out and travel more, because I guess,

1000
01:07:21,440 --> 01:07:23,040
Speaker 3: like a lot of people that I've been calling in

1001
01:07:23,520 --> 01:07:26,240
Speaker 3: and yourself included, to have the travel bug. I love

1002
01:07:26,640 --> 01:07:29,040
Speaker 3: going around the world seeing all the places I can.

1003
01:07:29,640 --> 01:07:32,520
Speaker 3: That dude he is talking about the Canary Islands was

1004
01:07:33,080 --> 01:07:35,320
Speaker 3: taking me think of the British version of islands again.

1005
01:07:36,120 --> 01:07:39,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, the travel Bug's interesting. I think if

1006
01:07:39,320 --> 01:07:46,280
Speaker 2: you if it's something you've never done before, it's absolutely

1007
01:07:46,360 --> 01:07:50,160
Speaker 2: worth traveling as much as you can. And then I think,

1008
01:07:50,200 --> 01:07:52,960
Speaker 2: after a while, you know that fucking song where it's

1009
01:07:53,040 --> 01:07:55,600
Speaker 2: what has it go goes like I've all only one

1010
01:07:55,720 --> 01:07:59,960
Speaker 2: place left I want to go. He says, you can't

1011
01:08:00,360 --> 01:08:02,320
Speaker 2: you know whatever. I don't know why I'm singing that song,

1012
01:08:02,400 --> 01:08:05,840
Speaker 2: but yeah, the travel Bug is kind of Yeah. If

1013
01:08:05,880 --> 01:08:08,240
Speaker 2: you never travel before, you should definitely do it. I

1014
01:08:08,240 --> 01:08:12,920
Speaker 2: think at a certain point you realize life was always

1015
01:08:12,960 --> 01:08:17,599
Speaker 2: about I don't know, I guess the connections you make.

1016
01:08:17,960 --> 01:08:19,360
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know why. I'm trying to

1017
01:08:19,360 --> 01:08:23,200
Speaker 2: be deep right now. I'm I'm I'm gonna let's let's

1018
01:08:23,240 --> 01:08:24,200
Speaker 2: talk about something else.

1019
01:08:25,240 --> 01:08:28,000
Speaker 3: They're good. You're carrying the conversation. I mean, I didn't

1020
01:08:28,040 --> 01:08:30,679
Speaker 3: have like too too much to talk about because I mean,

1021
01:08:31,200 --> 01:08:33,280
Speaker 3: I don't know, I've just always been a big fan,

1022
01:08:33,880 --> 01:08:37,240
Speaker 3: and it's been insane watching your story, especially with you know,

1023
01:08:37,320 --> 01:08:41,320
Speaker 3: with Vice. Then I kicked off like a where we go?

1024
01:08:42,360 --> 01:08:45,599
Speaker 3: But no, you're totally carrying the conversation. And also the case.

1025
01:08:45,600 --> 01:08:48,280
Speaker 3: So Rito needs to be returned to Taco About the case.

1026
01:08:48,320 --> 01:08:50,679
Speaker 2: C Rito absolutely needs to be returned to Taco Bell.

1027
01:08:53,600 --> 01:08:58,840
Speaker 2: What else do they have they have recently? The French

1028
01:08:58,920 --> 01:09:01,400
Speaker 2: The talk about French fries pretty good. I don't know

1029
01:09:01,439 --> 01:09:02,120
Speaker 2: why I'm bringing that.

1030
01:09:03,680 --> 01:09:06,320
Speaker 3: No, no, they are. They're under raided for a fry.

1031
01:09:07,960 --> 01:09:12,200
Speaker 2: The packing peanut cinnamon things, I've been shipting on for

1032
01:09:12,200 --> 01:09:15,160
Speaker 2: a while, but they're also pretty good. Uh, they need

1033
01:09:15,200 --> 01:09:20,720
Speaker 2: to bring back the strawberry pink starburst freeze. That one's

1034
01:09:20,760 --> 01:09:21,240
Speaker 2: a classic.

1035
01:09:21,320 --> 01:09:22,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree.

1036
01:09:27,040 --> 01:09:31,280
Speaker 2: Well, let's see, Steve. What's you You want to tell

1037
01:09:31,360 --> 01:09:33,080
Speaker 2: me a deep, dark secret before we go?

1038
01:09:35,320 --> 01:09:39,240
Speaker 3: Oh God, Okay, you're going to get pissed off from

1039
01:09:39,240 --> 01:09:41,519
Speaker 3: me saying this, but I do agree with it every

1040
01:09:41,520 --> 01:09:45,880
Speaker 3: time you might. I do agree with it when people

1041
01:09:45,960 --> 01:09:50,879
Speaker 3: say that your face should be read And I'm sorry.

1042
01:09:51,360 --> 01:09:53,840
Speaker 2: All right, Steve, Well I'll I'll talk to you later.

1043
01:09:57,280 --> 01:09:58,920
Speaker 1: See you, Li. I love you.

1044
01:09:59,240 --> 01:10:03,360
Speaker 2: Bye, Steve. Luck good good, good luck. Don't never die,

1045
01:10:03,479 --> 01:10:09,320
Speaker 2: Never die, Steve. One, I hung up on him. Well, now,

1046
01:10:09,360 --> 01:10:12,679
Speaker 2: I didn't really hang up on. The conversation was simply

1047
01:10:12,720 --> 01:10:16,479
Speaker 2: just over and then I hit the button. All right,

1048
01:10:16,520 --> 01:10:19,960
Speaker 2: one more that I'm out? Hello, Hello, Hi? What's your name?

1049
01:10:20,120 --> 01:10:21,000
Speaker 4: Hi? I'm Charlie.

1050
01:10:21,720 --> 01:10:23,679
Speaker 2: Charlie. What's going on? Charlie? How is life?

1051
01:10:26,360 --> 01:10:29,920
Speaker 4: Lyle? I think you already know. I think you get

1052
01:10:29,920 --> 01:10:31,160
Speaker 4: the vibe. You know what I mean?

1053
01:10:31,680 --> 01:10:37,040
Speaker 2: I I don't I should I assume that's bad. That's bad.

1054
01:10:39,880 --> 01:10:43,200
Speaker 4: I guess so sorry. I'm also very nervous. I wasn't.

1055
01:10:43,680 --> 01:10:45,640
Speaker 4: I mean, everyone saved that, but I wasn't expecting to

1056
01:10:45,640 --> 01:10:50,240
Speaker 4: get through. But it's great to talk to you. Yeah,

1057
01:10:50,320 --> 01:10:55,280
Speaker 4: I mean things are okay. I'm twenty seven as well,

1058
01:10:55,520 --> 01:10:58,400
Speaker 4: so that's kind of where I'm at with life. I

1059
01:10:58,439 --> 01:11:01,240
Speaker 4: know that you're sort of in the same spot.

1060
01:11:02,439 --> 01:11:06,679
Speaker 2: H I am twenty seven. I am a twenty seven

1061
01:11:06,720 --> 01:11:10,600
Speaker 2: year old boy. Twenty seven is an interesting age. I

1062
01:11:10,600 --> 01:11:13,120
Speaker 2: feel like it's the age that you stop you know

1063
01:11:13,120 --> 01:11:14,400
Speaker 2: what I was going to say, It's the age you

1064
01:11:14,400 --> 01:11:16,840
Speaker 2: stop being able to consider yourself young. But I I

1065
01:11:17,040 --> 01:11:19,439
Speaker 2: the more I think, you know what, Oh, here's a

1066
01:11:19,479 --> 01:11:22,720
Speaker 2: crazy thing. Here's I saw this on Twitter and I

1067
01:11:22,760 --> 01:11:28,920
Speaker 2: agree with it. Twenty seven feels old, thirty one feels young.

1068
01:11:30,120 --> 01:11:32,280
Speaker 4: Ooh ooha.

1069
01:11:32,960 --> 01:11:35,240
Speaker 2: Isn't that a crazy one? Isn't that a crazy one?

1070
01:11:36,200 --> 01:11:38,400
Speaker 4: It kind of is, And I kind of I have

1071
01:11:38,439 --> 01:11:42,760
Speaker 4: some thoughts on that because I kind of think, you know,

1072
01:11:42,800 --> 01:11:46,040
Speaker 4: when we think of up to the age of thirty,

1073
01:11:46,160 --> 01:11:49,880
Speaker 4: I think we're kind of thinking about our childhood as well,

1074
01:11:50,400 --> 01:11:53,920
Speaker 4: right Like it's just this whole chunk of time of

1075
01:11:54,439 --> 01:11:59,360
Speaker 4: development where every single year it's something new, right Like

1076
01:11:59,400 --> 01:12:02,400
Speaker 4: you're getting to all our new friends, you're learning algebra

1077
01:12:02,520 --> 01:12:04,920
Speaker 4: or whatever. And so by the time you're like in

1078
01:12:04,960 --> 01:12:08,720
Speaker 4: your twenties, you've lived like a million lives, going through

1079
01:12:08,760 --> 01:12:12,240
Speaker 4: school and growing up and meeting people and like I

1080
01:12:12,240 --> 01:12:15,880
Speaker 4: don't know, becoming a furry or whatever. And then you're

1081
01:12:15,920 --> 01:12:19,040
Speaker 4: in your twenties like, Okay, well I'm an adult now.

1082
01:12:19,880 --> 01:12:22,640
Speaker 4: But I guess by the time you're twenty seven, I

1083
01:12:22,640 --> 01:12:28,080
Speaker 4: don't know. In my mind, that's almost like being ninety nine, right,

1084
01:12:28,640 --> 01:12:31,400
Speaker 4: Like you're at the end of this chunk of your life.

1085
01:12:32,080 --> 01:12:35,519
Speaker 4: Like twenty seven is just a really old child, but

1086
01:12:35,640 --> 01:12:38,080
Speaker 4: thirty one that's a baby adult. Man.

1087
01:12:38,439 --> 01:12:42,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like that. Twenty seven that's that kind of

1088
01:12:42,200 --> 01:12:46,080
Speaker 2: puts into words why thirty one feels younger than twenty seven,

1089
01:12:46,120 --> 01:12:49,840
Speaker 2: because twenty seven that's an old child. Thirty one that's

1090
01:12:49,880 --> 01:12:53,240
Speaker 2: a baby adult. So it's yeah, it's interesting you feel

1091
01:12:53,280 --> 01:12:58,040
Speaker 2: like you're at the end of a certain kind of

1092
01:12:58,400 --> 01:13:03,519
Speaker 2: uh life chapter, which is why it feels old, But

1093
01:13:03,920 --> 01:13:08,559
Speaker 2: thirty one it's like you're at the beginning of thirties. Yeah,

1094
01:13:08,720 --> 01:13:11,160
Speaker 2: it's so it's interesting how we kind of contextualize time

1095
01:13:11,200 --> 01:13:11,719
Speaker 2: in that way.

1096
01:13:13,280 --> 01:13:15,960
Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean, I don't know. I've been thinking a

1097
01:13:16,040 --> 01:13:19,400
Speaker 4: lot recently about how humans aren't even really meant to

1098
01:13:19,439 --> 01:13:21,599
Speaker 4: live this long. And I kind of think that has

1099
01:13:21,640 --> 01:13:24,160
Speaker 4: a big thing to do with it, Like, you know,

1100
01:13:24,960 --> 01:13:28,800
Speaker 4: because I just turned twenty seven in the middle of March,

1101
01:13:29,439 --> 01:13:33,040
Speaker 4: and I keep thinking like, damn, I'm so old. My

1102
01:13:33,120 --> 01:13:37,920
Speaker 4: brain is fully developed, and I don't know, it's just

1103
01:13:38,240 --> 01:13:40,679
Speaker 4: it's weird because then I think, okay, like a few

1104
01:13:40,680 --> 01:13:43,640
Speaker 4: billion or whatever. I don't know how old humanity is,

1105
01:13:43,680 --> 01:13:46,160
Speaker 4: but you know, when we were still like running around

1106
01:13:46,200 --> 01:13:49,040
Speaker 4: in the jungles or whatever, what, we were living till

1107
01:13:49,080 --> 01:13:51,920
Speaker 4: like fifteen, So I guess it kind of feels weird.

1108
01:13:52,040 --> 01:13:53,960
Speaker 2: Well, were we only living to fifteen?

1109
01:13:55,120 --> 01:13:57,160
Speaker 4: I don't know, probably, I mean that's some point in

1110
01:13:57,240 --> 01:14:01,559
Speaker 4: history we were definitely only living to fifteen, right.

1111
01:14:03,760 --> 01:14:06,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, probably, or we were at least only living until

1112
01:14:06,439 --> 01:14:09,320
Speaker 2: Like I don't know, this is this is actually this

1113
01:14:09,400 --> 01:14:11,800
Speaker 2: is a good history question. I'm with you, though, I

1114
01:14:12,200 --> 01:14:17,920
Speaker 2: do sometimes I feel like like a mister me Seeks. Yeah,

1115
01:14:18,200 --> 01:14:20,000
Speaker 2: that's that's a thought I've been It's a bit of

1116
01:14:20,000 --> 01:14:22,280
Speaker 2: a depressing thought, but that's a thought I've been having lately.

1117
01:14:22,439 --> 01:14:24,720
Speaker 2: Is I've been feeling like a mister me seeks. I'm like,

1118
01:14:26,040 --> 01:14:27,679
Speaker 2: I was not I don't know if I was meant

1119
01:14:28,560 --> 01:14:31,800
Speaker 2: to God. This is depressing. I don't like this line

1120
01:14:31,800 --> 01:14:32,880
Speaker 2: of thought. I don't think it's good.

1121
01:14:33,600 --> 01:14:36,600
Speaker 4: No, it's not depressing. It's just reality. I think we have.

1122
01:14:36,760 --> 01:14:39,320
Speaker 2: Well I don't. I don't. I don't think it is

1123
01:14:39,360 --> 01:14:43,479
Speaker 2: reality because I I think I was just talking about

1124
01:14:43,479 --> 01:14:48,519
Speaker 2: this on the podcast recently. I encounter a lot of

1125
01:14:48,600 --> 01:14:55,519
Speaker 2: people in their sixties and fifties and whatever who are

1126
01:14:55,600 --> 01:15:00,720
Speaker 2: like happy and enjoying life and doing things. You know,

1127
01:15:03,280 --> 01:15:08,160
Speaker 2: So I think to be twenty seven and go, oh,

1128
01:15:08,240 --> 01:15:11,080
Speaker 2: I'm dead, I wasn't supposed to. Let I'm done. I

1129
01:15:11,120 --> 01:15:13,240
Speaker 2: think that's I don't think that is reality. I think

1130
01:15:13,240 --> 01:15:22,160
Speaker 2: that's that's a that's a bad perspective to have. So

1131
01:15:22,200 --> 01:15:25,479
Speaker 2: I don't think it's to say it's reality is to

1132
01:15:25,560 --> 01:15:31,240
Speaker 2: say my bad perspective is the truth, which is you know,

1133
01:15:31,240 --> 01:15:34,080
Speaker 2: who the fuck does that help? Right? So I don't.

1134
01:15:34,120 --> 01:15:37,160
Speaker 2: I don't agree that it's reality. It's how I feel,

1135
01:15:39,040 --> 01:15:41,760
Speaker 2: but I have But I'm optimist. I try to be optimistic.

1136
01:15:41,960 --> 01:15:44,360
Speaker 2: I try to not. I don't want to feel that way.

1137
01:15:45,080 --> 01:15:50,240
Speaker 2: I am going to work actively to change my perspectives

1138
01:15:50,320 --> 01:15:55,560
Speaker 2: that I don't feel dead, so that I don't feel

1139
01:15:55,760 --> 01:15:57,960
Speaker 2: because look, dude, you're as old or as young as

1140
01:15:58,000 --> 01:16:08,759
Speaker 2: you say that you are, right, I mean, there's nothing. Yeah,

1141
01:16:08,840 --> 01:16:11,160
Speaker 2: if if you want to walk around feeling like you're

1142
01:16:11,200 --> 01:16:15,720
Speaker 2: mister me Seeks and that you you're you pequed and whatever,

1143
01:16:16,240 --> 01:16:21,479
Speaker 2: then yeah, that becomes your reality. Reality, per There are

1144
01:16:21,680 --> 01:16:26,360
Speaker 2: certain things are objectively Reality is objective reality that we

1145
01:16:26,439 --> 01:16:31,000
Speaker 2: have both been alive for twenty seven years. But you know,

1146
01:16:32,080 --> 01:16:34,599
Speaker 2: a lot a lot of the ship around that is

1147
01:16:34,640 --> 01:16:43,840
Speaker 2: simply uh perspective. So I don't think that, yeo. So

1148
01:16:43,880 --> 01:16:48,920
Speaker 2: when you say it's reality that we are washed up,

1149
01:16:49,920 --> 01:16:56,639
Speaker 2: I think that's that's a fallacy because that's these these

1150
01:16:56,680 --> 01:17:00,720
Speaker 2: these things that we're claiming about ourselves are are just

1151
01:17:00,760 --> 01:17:03,200
Speaker 2: a matter of our own perspective, which I think we

1152
01:17:03,240 --> 01:17:06,800
Speaker 2: can change. This is me being optimistic, and I have

1153
01:17:06,880 --> 01:17:08,960
Speaker 2: no choice but to be optimistic, because if I'm not

1154
01:17:09,000 --> 01:17:10,880
Speaker 2: going to be optimistic, then I might as well just

1155
01:17:10,880 --> 01:17:15,160
Speaker 2: be mister me Siek's and I might as well, you know,

1156
01:17:15,479 --> 01:17:21,080
Speaker 2: fucking whatever. But so I'm choosing, maybe I'm choosing to

1157
01:17:21,120 --> 01:17:24,960
Speaker 2: be optimistic as in every situation that I have the

1158
01:17:25,080 --> 01:17:26,440
Speaker 2: energy to be optimistic.

1159
01:17:26,560 --> 01:17:34,120
Speaker 4: So yeah, yes, an optimism I feel as depressed as

1160
01:17:34,120 --> 01:17:37,639
Speaker 4: everyone may get at, you know, whatever time of their life,

1161
01:17:39,360 --> 01:17:41,920
Speaker 4: there's always going to have to be a degree of optimism,

1162
01:17:42,360 --> 01:17:46,640
Speaker 4: whether we're aware of it or not. Optimism or like

1163
01:17:46,680 --> 01:17:50,679
Speaker 4: the hope for change or the concept that there's something

1164
01:17:50,920 --> 01:17:54,800
Speaker 4: different out there right, whether we believe in it or not.

1165
01:17:55,560 --> 01:17:58,160
Speaker 4: You know, we wake up every day and feed ourselves

1166
01:17:58,200 --> 01:18:01,240
Speaker 4: and give ourselves water, whether we're happy about it or not,

1167
01:18:01,400 --> 01:18:04,920
Speaker 4: and happy about our lives or not. You know, even

1168
01:18:04,960 --> 01:18:07,519
Speaker 4: just going through the motions, I think is sort of

1169
01:18:08,520 --> 01:18:13,280
Speaker 4: it holds that degree of secret optimism, whether we're aware

1170
01:18:13,280 --> 01:18:14,599
Speaker 4: of it and embracing it or not.

1171
01:18:17,160 --> 01:18:19,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, I guess. I guess that's true. Yeah, I

1172
01:18:19,080 --> 01:18:22,200
Speaker 2: think that's true. I think that's true. I don't think

1173
01:18:22,280 --> 01:18:25,720
Speaker 2: we're washed up. I think we're I don't know. It's

1174
01:18:25,720 --> 01:18:30,920
Speaker 2: whatever you decide, it's whatever you fucking decide, And I

1175
01:18:30,920 --> 01:18:34,160
Speaker 2: don't know. I just don't. I wanna my my my

1176
01:18:34,280 --> 01:18:37,200
Speaker 2: goal for this year is to join the fucking living.

1177
01:18:38,080 --> 01:18:44,960
Speaker 2: You know. That's that's that's become my that's become my

1178
01:18:47,280 --> 01:18:53,599
Speaker 2: catchphrase or my modus operandi. However the fuck you phrase that. Yeah,

1179
01:18:53,640 --> 01:18:57,040
Speaker 2: I want to join the living. I I'm tired of

1180
01:18:57,080 --> 01:19:02,320
Speaker 2: being fucking feeling insane all the time. You know, people

1181
01:19:02,360 --> 01:19:05,400
Speaker 2: do it, people figure out ways to join the living,

1182
01:19:06,960 --> 01:19:09,880
Speaker 2: and I'm I'm I'm doing it. I'm joining the living.

1183
01:19:10,720 --> 01:19:12,479
Speaker 2: I hope you joined the living too. It looks like

1184
01:19:12,479 --> 01:19:13,479
Speaker 2: they're having a good time.

1185
01:19:14,800 --> 01:19:18,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like I mean again, I think it's just sort

1186
01:19:18,400 --> 01:19:21,759
Speaker 4: of being like in the middle to end of your twenties,

1187
01:19:21,800 --> 01:19:26,040
Speaker 4: where you're like, Okay, you know, this part of my

1188
01:19:26,120 --> 01:19:29,640
Speaker 4: life is over. What do I want to bring with

1189
01:19:29,760 --> 01:19:31,800
Speaker 4: me into the next part of my life? And like,

1190
01:19:31,840 --> 01:19:33,920
Speaker 4: what do I want the next part of my life

1191
01:19:33,920 --> 01:19:37,040
Speaker 4: to look like? Like I don't know, it's weird, and

1192
01:19:37,080 --> 01:19:40,160
Speaker 4: I don't think anyone ever really talks about it, But

1193
01:19:40,920 --> 01:19:43,559
Speaker 4: I feel like this is sort of, you know, the

1194
01:19:43,640 --> 01:19:47,080
Speaker 4: choke of age where we have to decide like, okay,

1195
01:19:47,080 --> 01:19:49,640
Speaker 4: like are we going to just like lay down and

1196
01:19:49,680 --> 01:19:53,799
Speaker 4: die or are we going to look at our lives

1197
01:19:53,840 --> 01:19:56,680
Speaker 4: and see which part of our lives we want to

1198
01:19:56,720 --> 01:19:59,320
Speaker 4: die and you know, what we want to feed into

1199
01:19:59,400 --> 01:20:02,320
Speaker 4: and become. And I think when it comes to like

1200
01:20:02,800 --> 01:20:06,120
Speaker 4: the concept of joining the living, it is really funny

1201
01:20:06,160 --> 01:20:07,720
Speaker 4: you say that because I'm kind of in the same

1202
01:20:07,760 --> 01:20:11,960
Speaker 4: position where a lot of my life I just did

1203
01:20:11,960 --> 01:20:16,559
Speaker 4: what I was supposed to go to school, you know whatever,

1204
01:20:17,560 --> 01:20:21,479
Speaker 4: and I never really got to live my life. I

1205
01:20:21,520 --> 01:20:23,360
Speaker 4: was just really focused on like doing what I was

1206
01:20:23,400 --> 01:20:28,519
Speaker 4: supposed to do. And so now I'm here, and I'm

1207
01:20:28,560 --> 01:20:31,479
Speaker 4: sort of at that crossroads of like, Okay, you know,

1208
01:20:31,640 --> 01:20:34,720
Speaker 4: do I want to pursue relationships. Do I want to

1209
01:20:35,280 --> 01:20:41,120
Speaker 4: get a higher education? Do I want to move to Norway?

1210
01:20:41,160 --> 01:20:43,559
Speaker 4: You know, It's just it's a tricky chunk of time

1211
01:20:44,120 --> 01:20:48,400
Speaker 4: to be alive in because we have so many options

1212
01:20:48,439 --> 01:20:53,960
Speaker 4: and we haven't really ever made this this funny choices

1213
01:20:54,080 --> 01:20:56,479
Speaker 4: or had this much autonomy for our lives because again,

1214
01:20:56,520 --> 01:20:58,040
Speaker 4: we're old children, right.

1215
01:20:59,320 --> 01:21:02,960
Speaker 2: Yeah. Also, I also think that's kind of a function

1216
01:21:03,080 --> 01:21:08,160
Speaker 2: of the modern world, is like we also, like I

1217
01:21:08,200 --> 01:21:11,200
Speaker 2: was thinking about that, I'm like addicted to Instagram. I'm

1218
01:21:11,200 --> 01:21:14,800
Speaker 2: trying to be less addicted to Instagram. And it's like, dude,

1219
01:21:15,120 --> 01:21:16,800
Speaker 2: a lot of people, you know, they get addicted. They

1220
01:21:17,160 --> 01:21:18,760
Speaker 2: I don't know why I'm saying that is if I'm

1221
01:21:18,840 --> 01:21:21,880
Speaker 2: not projecting, but like I'll wake up and I'll look

1222
01:21:21,920 --> 01:21:24,920
Speaker 2: at Instagram stories and it's like, what the fuck I'm

1223
01:21:24,960 --> 01:21:31,559
Speaker 2: waking up and immediately looking at everybody else's life and

1224
01:21:31,640 --> 01:21:35,880
Speaker 2: I'm looking on the Internet and I'm being exposed to

1225
01:21:36,000 --> 01:21:38,760
Speaker 2: the breadth of here. It's like, it's like basically, it's

1226
01:21:38,760 --> 01:21:41,599
Speaker 2: like heroes. All the lives that you could possibly be living,

1227
01:21:41,960 --> 01:21:45,080
Speaker 2: as told by everyone that you've ever met or connected with.

1228
01:21:45,680 --> 01:21:51,679
Speaker 2: And that's too much. That's not a thing that has

1229
01:21:51,800 --> 01:21:59,680
Speaker 2: ever been part of our human experience for as long

1230
01:21:59,720 --> 01:22:01,400
Speaker 2: as youhumans have been alive.

1231
01:22:02,400 --> 01:22:03,000
Speaker 1: Uh.

1232
01:22:03,040 --> 01:22:05,320
Speaker 2: And it makes you compare yourself to other people. It

1233
01:22:05,400 --> 01:22:09,200
Speaker 2: just it just takes you. It rips you out of

1234
01:22:09,240 --> 01:22:13,000
Speaker 2: your fucking life in a way that I don't think

1235
01:22:13,040 --> 01:22:19,240
Speaker 2: humans have have ever experienced. So we we definitely, I

1236
01:22:19,280 --> 01:22:24,160
Speaker 2: think in the modern world, uh, I have to deal

1237
01:22:24,240 --> 01:22:30,240
Speaker 2: with a lot of those uh uh uh challenges. But also,

1238
01:22:31,920 --> 01:22:34,000
Speaker 2: you know, we also have a lot of opportunities because

1239
01:22:34,000 --> 01:22:37,040
Speaker 2: of the modern world. You know, I dress up like

1240
01:22:37,080 --> 01:22:40,479
Speaker 2: a fucking gecko and talk to strangers about ship. Because

1241
01:22:40,520 --> 01:22:44,439
Speaker 2: of the modern world, we have the opportunity to move

1242
01:22:44,520 --> 01:22:47,840
Speaker 2: to Norway and join a whatever the fuck thing because

1243
01:22:47,840 --> 01:22:51,240
Speaker 2: we found out about it on Instagram or the internet.

1244
01:22:51,400 --> 01:22:54,479
Speaker 2: So I don't know, it's it's I guess it's it all,

1245
01:22:54,520 --> 01:22:57,080
Speaker 2: It all that all fucking comes down to how you

1246
01:22:57,080 --> 01:22:58,800
Speaker 2: want to look at it, I suppose.

1247
01:23:00,120 --> 01:23:03,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, And I mean, uh, there's something you just

1248
01:23:03,800 --> 01:23:06,320
Speaker 4: said which was, uh, you know, you wake up and

1249
01:23:06,400 --> 01:23:09,479
Speaker 4: immediately and I do the same thing, immediately just go

1250
01:23:09,560 --> 01:23:14,800
Speaker 4: on Instagram and look at other people's lives. But like,

1251
01:23:16,200 --> 01:23:18,160
Speaker 4: and I know, obviously I'm guilty of the same thing,

1252
01:23:18,760 --> 01:23:22,280
Speaker 4: but damn, it's you know, you wake up and immediately

1253
01:23:22,360 --> 01:23:24,360
Speaker 4: sort of clock out. It's like, did you even wake

1254
01:23:24,439 --> 01:23:26,600
Speaker 4: up at all? Like you may as well at that

1255
01:23:26,640 --> 01:23:27,439
Speaker 4: point still.

1256
01:23:27,240 --> 01:23:31,200
Speaker 2: Be dreaming, right, Yeah, yeah, God, I gotta get I

1257
01:23:31,240 --> 01:23:34,599
Speaker 2: gotta get off to fucking I hate the internet so much.

1258
01:23:34,640 --> 01:23:36,800
Speaker 2: I hate it. I fucking hate it. I hate it

1259
01:23:36,840 --> 01:23:40,320
Speaker 2: so much. I notice my I am a I am

1260
01:23:40,360 --> 01:23:47,800
Speaker 2: a little fucking rat boy. I'll like, uh, notice my

1261
01:23:48,040 --> 01:23:52,439
Speaker 2: body going on the computer, opening the computer, typing in

1262
01:23:52,800 --> 01:23:56,559
Speaker 2: r and then hitting enter to go on Reddit. And

1263
01:23:56,600 --> 01:23:58,240
Speaker 2: it's like I'm one of my dumbs like a mouse

1264
01:23:58,320 --> 01:24:01,240
Speaker 2: pulling a lever in and it's it's not it's it's

1265
01:24:01,280 --> 01:24:03,160
Speaker 2: every day, multiple times a day, and I'm like, what

1266
01:24:03,160 --> 01:24:04,840
Speaker 2: the fuck. I gotta I gotta, I gotta stop. I

1267
01:24:04,880 --> 01:24:09,439
Speaker 2: gotta deprogram myself. It's like, uh, sometimes I'm like, uh,

1268
01:24:10,920 --> 01:24:14,080
Speaker 2: I don't know the the problems are like writing fucking

1269
01:24:14,200 --> 01:24:16,320
Speaker 2: in front of me. I gotta, I gotta, I gotta

1270
01:24:16,360 --> 01:24:23,800
Speaker 2: deprogram myself from the craziness of the modern world. And

1271
01:24:23,840 --> 01:24:25,439
Speaker 2: then you go into Reddit and then everything on the

1272
01:24:25,479 --> 01:24:29,120
Speaker 2: reddit is like, here's what Trump is doing. And then

1273
01:24:29,200 --> 01:24:34,280
Speaker 2: some guy comments being like you know, uh, Trump get owned,

1274
01:24:34,400 --> 01:24:35,600
Speaker 2: and you're like, what are we? What are we? What

1275
01:24:35,640 --> 01:24:38,120
Speaker 2: are we doing here? We gotta go. We gotta Why

1276
01:24:38,160 --> 01:24:44,400
Speaker 2: don't we you know, plant to fucking learn to play guitar?

1277
01:24:44,720 --> 01:24:46,639
Speaker 2: I don't know something. We gotta do something. We can't

1278
01:24:46,680 --> 01:24:50,320
Speaker 2: just be looking at the fucking we I can't just

1279
01:24:50,360 --> 01:24:52,479
Speaker 2: be looking at what Elon Musk is doing all day.

1280
01:24:52,520 --> 01:24:55,960
Speaker 2: It's it's just ridiculous. It's fucking insane. Who cares?

1281
01:24:56,200 --> 01:24:56,840
Speaker 4: I mean, who cares?

1282
01:24:56,880 --> 01:24:58,479
Speaker 2: I mean yeah, I mean no, who cares? Yeah? You know,

1283
01:24:58,479 --> 01:24:59,880
Speaker 2: it's not normal. It's not normal at all.

1284
01:25:00,880 --> 01:25:04,840
Speaker 4: Like this is not what we were made for, and

1285
01:25:05,240 --> 01:25:09,080
Speaker 4: like it is so tough because we as humans, like

1286
01:25:09,120 --> 01:25:14,639
Speaker 4: we're evolved, We we created this, right, we put ourselves

1287
01:25:14,720 --> 01:25:21,240
Speaker 4: in this machine of dopamine and money and made up concepts,

1288
01:25:21,320 --> 01:25:24,680
Speaker 4: and we stressed ourselves out over it. At the end

1289
01:25:24,680 --> 01:25:27,880
Speaker 4: of the day, like we're monkeys, We're monkeys.

1290
01:25:28,160 --> 01:25:28,439
Speaker 2: That's it.

1291
01:25:29,080 --> 01:25:31,559
Speaker 4: And you know, there's half of us that is human

1292
01:25:31,720 --> 01:25:36,519
Speaker 4: and intellectual and reasonable and you know whatever, and then

1293
01:25:36,560 --> 01:25:41,360
Speaker 4: there's the monkey ass that's just ooh Reddit, ooh ooh.

1294
01:25:41,439 --> 01:25:46,400
Speaker 4: Swiping on Instagram is so fun, but it's not fulfilling

1295
01:25:47,479 --> 01:25:51,920
Speaker 4: as a whole, right, Like it's you know, you know,

1296
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Speaker 4: like a little monkey part of your brain can just

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Speaker 4: run around and play all day. But then the human

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Speaker 4: part is like, Okay, well I need uh, I don't know,

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Speaker 4: emotional stability and whatever. X y Z.

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Speaker 2: Do you know what we should do, Charlie. We should

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Speaker 2: go live in a cave.

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Speaker 4: I've been thinking about it a lot. While I'm not

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Speaker 4: joking that.

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Speaker 2: Guy at the beginning, I think he had it right.

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Speaker 2: He had it fucking right about living in a cave.

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Speaker 2: He's got a he's got a private Instagram account, he

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01:26:26,320 --> 01:26:31,960
Speaker 2: probably has three followers, he has caves friends, he eats cheese.

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Speaker 2: He's doing he's doing it pretty good. He's doing it

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Speaker 2: pretty good. He's doing it pretty good. Or I mean,

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Speaker 2: I don't know. Maybe you don't. Here's the thing. You

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Speaker 2: don't have to go live in a cave on the

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Speaker 2: Canary Islands. But maybe maybe there's a metaphorical version of

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Speaker 2: living on a cave in the Canary Islands that you

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Speaker 2: can just do from home. Whatever that looks like.

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Speaker 4: You know, I really kind of think the because it's

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Speaker 4: not a new idea, right, I feel like everybody forever

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Speaker 4: has always been like, oh, I want to run away

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Speaker 4: to a cave or the coast or or like a

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Speaker 4: treathouse and have no responsibilities. But I mean that's exactly

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Speaker 4: That's exactly it. Like, that's just us being human and

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Speaker 4: wanting to return to what we're actually made for, which

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Speaker 4: is just existing and having a fun little time.

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Speaker 2: I think probably, Charlie, is there a Is there anything

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Speaker 2: else you want to say to the people as the

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Speaker 2: computer before we go?

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Speaker 4: You know, I think the biggest thing that I want

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01:27:33,960 --> 01:27:36,280
Speaker 4: to say is just what I've already said, which is

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Speaker 4: just it's important to remember that we're animals, you know,

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Speaker 4: be nice to yourself, whoever you are, whatever you are,

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Speaker 4: Like at the end of the day, we're just big,

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Speaker 4: stupid monkeys and yeah, damn, like we're really just trying

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Speaker 4: our best. It just be a be a good owner

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Speaker 4: for the pet that you are to yourself.

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Speaker 1: I like that.

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Speaker 2: I like that, Thank you, thank you, Charlie, good luck,

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Speaker 2: have a good rest of your.

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Speaker 4: Life, Lyle. I'll miss you, bye.

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Speaker 2: Charlie, Hie Yle. God damn it, I fucking I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: do it. I'm gonna never look at Reddit or Twitter

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Speaker 2: ever again. Mark my words, Mark my fucking words. People,

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna never look at Reddit

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01:28:20,880 --> 01:28:25,000
Speaker 2: or Twitter ever again in my entire life. God damn it. Shit,

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01:28:25,120 --> 01:28:27,000
Speaker 2: it's like a heroin. I don't know why. You know.

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01:28:27,040 --> 01:28:29,160
Speaker 2: What sucks is that? Like a lot of my addictions,

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01:28:29,200 --> 01:28:33,640
Speaker 2: like I at least, like you know whatever, candy or

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01:28:34,600 --> 01:28:37,439
Speaker 2: getting high or watching porn or jerking oat like all

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01:28:37,439 --> 01:28:40,040
Speaker 2: that shit, like at least I like it, but like

1348
01:28:40,120 --> 01:28:42,080
Speaker 2: read it in Twitter, It's like I'm addicted to it

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01:28:42,160 --> 01:28:43,960
Speaker 2: and I don't like it. What the fuck is that?

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Speaker 2: Those are the things that have to go? All right, whatever,

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01:28:47,479 --> 01:28:50,559
Speaker 2: I'm gonna try my best. All right. Thank you for

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01:28:50,600 --> 01:28:55,600
Speaker 2: listening to the Therapy Getto podcast Thank you forever and

1353
01:28:55,640 --> 01:29:01,679
Speaker 2: always for listening to the Therapy get Goo podcasts. Good luck.

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Speaker 2: I don't I don't know if I have anything else

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Speaker 2: to say. I'm not go I think I'm not good

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Speaker 2: at the This was I think this was a great episode.

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Speaker 2: I liked talking to the cave guy. I like talking

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Speaker 2: to the film guy. I like to talking to Charlie.

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Speaker 2: I think the middle of the I don't know, the

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Speaker 2: ending of this podcast doesn't have to be good, all right.

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Speaker 2: I don't think I I don't think I need to

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Speaker 2: say anything of substance in this very moment because I

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Speaker 2: think I over the core period of time that this podcast,

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Speaker 2: this episode out, this hour and however many minute long

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Speaker 2: episode was, I think things of substance were said in

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Speaker 2: the middle. So I don't think that the end necessarily

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Speaker 2: needs any substance to it. So I'm just gonna leave

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Speaker 2: it like this, Okay, thank you very much. I'm gonna go. Uh,

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go do nothing.

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Speaker 1: Goes on the line taking your phone calls.

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Speaker 5: Every nine he kept goes through his eyes as teaching

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Speaker 5: him how to have your life, but he's not really

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Speaker 5: an expert.