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Speaker 1: Welcome in Friday edition Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Congratulations

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Speaker 1: to Notre Dame fans. You can party like it's nineteen

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Speaker 1: eighty eight. You're in a championship game. Buck may have

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Speaker 1: no idea what that actually means, but I bet we

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Speaker 1: have a lot of Golden Domers that are listening. Big

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Speaker 1: win last night over Penn State. I am in snowy Nashville, Buck,

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Speaker 1: where we are getting absolutely slammed with what Southerners would

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Speaker 1: consider to be a massive amount of snow. It's going

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Speaker 1: to be six to eight inches before all is said

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Speaker 1: and done. All the schools are closed. If you hear

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Speaker 1: kids running around and screaming, that's probably going to be

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Speaker 1: kids in my house that are out and about with

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Speaker 1: sleds and everything else. And so all of that underway,

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Speaker 1: we got a bunch of legal happenings that continued fallout

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Speaker 1: of the wildfires in Los Angeles and the movement by

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Speaker 1: the way of a lot of sporting events. I mean,

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Speaker 1: but the playoff game there that the Rams were going

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Speaker 1: being postponed. I mean, there's basically continued mess there. Curfew

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Speaker 1: in place, after dark. There are looting issues that are

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Speaker 1: which is just absolutely indefensible on top of the indefensible

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Speaker 1: nature of so much of the response to these wildfires.

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Speaker 1: Will continue to talk about that. But the story of

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Speaker 1: the day Donald Trump officially sentenced in the sham New

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Speaker 1: York City case having to do with business records. And

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Speaker 1: after all of this, after months of trial, after.

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Speaker 2: Years of legal wranglings.

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Speaker 1: After charges being brought in DC and Atlanta, in New

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Speaker 1: York City and in Miami, effectively all those cases are done,

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Speaker 1: and the sentencing has now been complete, and they gave

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump an unconditional discharge, meaning, hey, there is no

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Speaker 1: punishment at all. We're not even going to find you.

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Speaker 1: This case is over. There's no jail time, there is

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Speaker 1: basically no consequence at all. And I'm seeing buck even

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Speaker 1: left wingers that hate Trump are sort of facing this

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Speaker 1: existential crisis of their own creation where they sit around

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Speaker 1: and they say, wait, nothing actually is happening. After MSNBC

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Speaker 1: and CNN and left wing legal analysts have gotten them

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Speaker 1: all gigged up for nine years that Trump was going

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Speaker 1: to face his day in court and there would be

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Speaker 1: a reckoning. Actually nothing at all has happened. Judge merchand

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Speaker 1: unconditionally discharges him. They're trying to dance around and say,

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Speaker 1: always a convicted felon. I still think this case is

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Speaker 1: going to get tossed on appeal, I really do. But

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Speaker 1: in the meantime there are no consequences whatsoever. And in

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Speaker 1: ten days Trump is raising his right hand and takes

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Speaker 1: over as President of the United States with a full

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Speaker 1: House and a full Senate behind him.

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Speaker 2: I know that a lot of things came together to

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Speaker 2: make Trump president again, but it is hard at this

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Speaker 2: point I would argue to look back and not come

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Speaker 2: away thinking that law fair against Trump may have been

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Speaker 2: the biggest political own goal we've ever seen. I've you know,

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Speaker 2: when you look at the numbers after the mar A

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Speaker 2: Lago raid and after it was clear they were criminally

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Speaker 2: prosecuting Trump, it was just it was Trump's party. The

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Speaker 2: Republicans didn't want anybody else, don't want to talk about

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Speaker 2: anybody else. Primary was a non primary effectively, and now

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Speaker 2: maybe that would have happened anyway, But I think it's

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Speaker 2: hard to look at where the numbers were before that

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Speaker 2: I think that this was something that blew up in

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Speaker 2: their faces in a way that is truly epic, and

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Speaker 2: it's hard to imagine. It's hard to imagine anything being

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Speaker 2: so poorly planned as the four criminal prosecutions of Donald Trump,

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Speaker 2: all of which came to nothing other than making him

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Speaker 2: president again. Yeah, you know, and this is really important

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Speaker 2: because lawfair is the end of the republic. If it

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Speaker 2: becomes standardized lawfair in politics, that can get rid of

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Speaker 2: a political candidate because you don't like him means that

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Speaker 2: we no longer have a free and fair political system,

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Speaker 2: not worthy of being called such.

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Speaker 3: And the only way for it to be defeated really

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Speaker 3: was this, meaning that going forward, anybody who and it's

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Speaker 3: always Democrats to do this stuff, but anybody who thinks, oh,

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Speaker 3: I'm going to take this person off the political battlefield

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Speaker 3: by bringing some bogus charge, by having some partisan da as.

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Speaker 2: You know, my so called political hitman. If you will

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Speaker 2: to take this person and prosecute them, they're going to say,

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Speaker 2: wait a second, what happened with Trump when they did that?

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that was a really bad idea. And it

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Speaker 2: was a really bad idea because the American people rejected

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Speaker 2: it and the American people. As much as sometimes it

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Speaker 1: I think it's important to go back and think about

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Speaker 1: what their goal was and to your point, see what

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Speaker 1: happens with it blowing up in their face. Their plan

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Speaker 1: their their thought process tell me if you disagree with

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Speaker 1: that they were going to pump up Trump's numbers in

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Speaker 1: the Republican primary, and that that would make him the nominee,

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Speaker 1: but that the larger American voting public, that is the

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Speaker 1: would actually guarantee to them that there was no way

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Speaker 1: So it was diabolical in this respect. I think they

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Speaker 1: that right. I think their miscalculation was they never really

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Speaker 1: where they were wrong in their calculus.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the failure of analysis from their part was it

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Speaker 2: would make him the nominee and force and make sure

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Speaker 2: he lost the election. And instead it made him the

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Speaker 2: and was a major part of it. And we haven't

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Speaker 2: even added into this the two attempted assassinations of Donald Trump,

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Speaker 2: the way that they responded to getting shot in the ear.

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Speaker 2: Do you remember that, everybody who's just a few months

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Speaker 2: ago Trump got shot in the ear. The guy took

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Speaker 2: let's fight up on the stage while he had blood

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Speaker 2: remarkable year in American politics, in American history last year,

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Speaker 2: and so you know, going into this inauguration, to say

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Speaker 2: an understatement and the final collapse play of the law

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Speaker 2: is complete, top to bottom. They pushed this. This was

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Speaker 1: And I like to look decades and maybe even farther

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty four, that election cycle. One hundred years from now,

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Speaker 1: it will be a best selling book that to the

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Speaker 1: I still think they will. One hundred years from now,

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Speaker 1: everybody will be dissecting this book and it'll be a

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Speaker 1: believe what that twenty twenty four American presidential election was like?

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Speaker 1: Long after every single person here is passed, we will

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Speaker 1: not be around when historians really write and grapple with

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Speaker 1: the major issues that took place in this election. I

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Speaker 1: like to go back and sometimes read books about historic

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Speaker 1: election seasons. I think I even told you Buck, I

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Speaker 1: did my history thesis on the eighteen sixty four presidential

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Speaker 1: election between Abraham Lincoln and George McClellan, which is one

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Speaker 1: think about that. For those of us who are history

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Speaker 1: And so you go back. I would encourage people who

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Speaker 1: the eighteen sixty four presidential election, but what we just

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Speaker 2: Like it was an unbelievable thing that we just lived through.

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Speaker 1: And I think the biggest takeaway is an important one

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Speaker 1: that you laid out and we've been talking about for

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Speaker 1: If it had worked, everybody would start to try to

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Speaker 1: Let the voters decide, don't try to put him in

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Speaker 2: And also it's a reminder that prosecutors can figure out

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Speaker 2: who was emotionally psychologically stable through this election and said,

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Speaker 2: It was the most absurd case of all of them,

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Speaker 2: to be an ethical moral foundation to it. Did this

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Speaker 1: Am I wrong, buck? And we can answer this when

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Speaker 1: this also may well rep well, I'm curious because we

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Speaker 1: to a certain extent, the politics of personal destruction where

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Speaker 1: the American public, because I don't know that anybody has

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Speaker 1: been attacked more aggressively for personal foibles than Donald Trump has,

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Speaker 1: maybe in any of our lives. Bill Clinton certainly had

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Speaker 2: That's what Amy did, ninety eight ninety eight ninety eight.

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Speaker 2: How the hell can you put that kind of sentence

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Speaker 1: Having said all that, the punishment is virtually non existent,

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Speaker 2: But she's saying the felon status. I mean, technically, I

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Speaker 2: We need to have people who look like the people

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Speaker 2: that are going to serve, because somehow that will make

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Speaker 2: the people that are being served feel better instead of

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Speaker 2: these are the best people to do this job that

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Speaker 2: we could find absolutely anywhere, who will keep you and

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Speaker 2: your property as safe as possible. Right, I just completely

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Speaker 2: reject what she starts out what she's starts out with there,

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Speaker 2: which is, you want somebody you know the same thing

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Speaker 2: of the cop. Do you care what color the cop is,

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Speaker 2: who rhymes or what well, I mean maybe gender. Do

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Speaker 2: you care what color the comp is who rhymes? No,

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Speaker 2: you don't. You just want the best cop?

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Speaker 1: Yes, and you want the baddest asked person to be

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Speaker 1: able to handle the most significant aspects of the job.

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Speaker 1: And I just I can't believe that this would be

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Speaker 1: a promotional video. This is the other part. Both of

449
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Speaker 1: those things are awfully wrong, But as part of promotion videos,

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Speaker 1: you decide what you want to feature. This is my

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Speaker 1: issue with Christy Nome. You know, if you go back

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Speaker 1: in time when you write your autobiography, everybody is limiting

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Speaker 1: the stories that you tell are the ones that you

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Speaker 1: feel are the most apropos and often put you in

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Speaker 1: the best like for people who want to see your story.

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Speaker 1: It's important here to understand. Someone inside of the LA

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Speaker 1: Fire Department saw these promotional videos and said, oh, we

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Speaker 1: definitely need to feature this particular part of the interview

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Speaker 1: that this person, Christine Larson, I think is the name.

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Speaker 1: This person probably set for a forty five minute interview.

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Speaker 1: For people who don't know how this stuff works, some

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Speaker 1: of you have probably been involved in promotional videos. Somebody,

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Speaker 1: an editor comes in and chops this up and says, oh,

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Speaker 1: that was a really good take. Oh we really like

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Speaker 1: the way that that you conveyed this. This is a

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Speaker 1: message we really want to get out there. And then

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Speaker 1: they chose to feature this. It's not like this was

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Speaker 1: a live interview and they decided, Oh, sometimes you say

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Speaker 1: in a live interview things that are not the best

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Speaker 1: version of what you would like to put out there.

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Speaker 1: This is the message they wanted to convey. Hey, if

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Speaker 1: your husband needs to be carried out in the fire,

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Speaker 1: you're screwed. But man, we hope that you like the

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Speaker 1: fact that there's a woman firefighter showing up. It's actually

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Speaker 1: insulting also to a lot of other female firefighters who

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Speaker 1: may be able to do the job a guy over

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Speaker 1: their shoulder.

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Speaker 2: Maybe not very any, but some very you. But yes,

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Speaker 2: I would be curious to see how that goes. But

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Speaker 2: but to your point about about the way that this

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Speaker 2: is presented, this is the DEI firefighter putting forward their

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Speaker 2: best foot. This isn't an offhand comment at the firehouse

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Speaker 2: that got caught in one cell phone video. This is, Hey,

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Speaker 2: we want to show you how great we are in

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Speaker 2: the LA Fire Department. And they're putting forward this video

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Speaker 2: that's supposed to make you think that they know what

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Speaker 2: they're doing and that they've got this under control. So

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Speaker 2: clearly not not confidence inspiring, and given what has gone on,

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Speaker 2: I mean, the the absolute devastation these there's these whole

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Speaker 2: areas on the Palisades, most notably there are other areas

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Speaker 2: I know as well, Clay. They're not going to be

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Speaker 2: people aren't going to be able to live there for years.

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Speaker 2: It will take years to rebuild if they decide to

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Speaker 2: rebuild in these areas. If some people may just decide

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Speaker 2: just to you know, to take the insurance money on

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Speaker 2: the house, all the land and move, I don't know

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Speaker 2: how that's going to work out. There are huge problems

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Speaker 2: also with the insurance, you know, the fire insurance industry

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Speaker 2: in these areas too. And it's you know, California has

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Speaker 2: weighed in, right, so the California and just have you

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Speaker 2: seen some of this people. There are lots of people

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Speaker 2: who lost their plans in the Palisades just this year

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Speaker 2: or in the last year, I should say it's twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty five now, relatively recently. And it's because California puts

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Speaker 2: all these mandates for you know, what level of coverage

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Speaker 2: there can be, how much coverage, how expensive it can be,

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Speaker 2: and so then they also have this uh, this state

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Speaker 2: fond to forget what it's called. There's this fair fair

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Speaker 2: I think where that's your insurance of last resort for

511
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Speaker 2: fire home insurance and it's nowhere near enough to cover

512
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Speaker 2: the homes, right so they so they have a pool

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Speaker 2: that is not going to be sufficient to cover the damage.

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Speaker 2: After California, his mandates made it so that some of

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Speaker 2: the largest insurers pulled out entirely. And you know, you

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Speaker 2: sit here and you go, this is just again poor manage.

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Speaker 2: It's poor management of everything, poor management of fire, poor

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Speaker 2: management of insurance, poor management across the board. You don't

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Speaker 2: want to be in a state run by Gavin Newsom.

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Speaker 1: Can we go to this call because I think Jeremy's

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Speaker 1: gonna speak for a lot of firefighters out there who

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Speaker 1: just heard the clip that we played of that LA firefighter.

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Speaker 1: And Jeremy, what's your reaction when you hear this highly

524
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Speaker 1: paid LA firefighter saying, Hey, if your husband's gonna needs

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Speaker 1: to be carried out, he found himself in a bad spot.

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Speaker 2: Four hundred grand, Clay, four hundred grand. Sorry, go ahead, Jeremy.

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Speaker 6: I think she's a complete and total moron. Number one

528
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Speaker 6: is never the victim's fault at all. Yeah, it is

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Speaker 6: a situation that happened, and I don't care the house

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Speaker 6: called on fire. You may have been asleep down your trap.

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Speaker 6: How is that your pahont But I.

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Speaker 1: Mean, isn't that one of the key jobs of a

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Speaker 1: firefighter would be to get anybody out? And so when

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Speaker 1: you're saying, oh, he got himself into a bad spot,

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Speaker 1: I mean, this has to infuriate firefighters everywhere.

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Speaker 2: I would think, oh, oh.

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Speaker 6: It completely ticks me out, because my thing is we

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Speaker 6: do it to save lives, not property. Lives. Property houses

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Speaker 6: and stuff can be rebuilt. You cannot get your life back.

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Speaker 6: And another thing that really aggravated me about her comment

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Speaker 6: was if you can't carry them out, you drag them out.

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Speaker 2: Yes, sir, yeah, thank you, thank you for calling in Jeremy,

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Speaker 2: I mean, Clay, this is this is where you see

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Speaker 2: the people that always claim diversity doesn't mean less capable.

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Speaker 2: You know, when you have a focus on diverse city,

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Speaker 2: meaning when you're hiring for diversity, when you're advancing people

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Speaker 2: for that reason, it always is shown to be false.

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Speaker 2: They're there because if your focus is merit, then you

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Speaker 2: don't have to talk about DEI. So the moment that

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Speaker 2: you're focusing on DEEI, you're not focusing on merit. So

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Speaker 2: these things work. This is they work, you know, in

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Speaker 2: distinction to each other, in contradiction to each other.

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Speaker 1: But we'll come back in a second. Breaking news I

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Speaker 1: just saw speaking of DEI Meta, Facebook is ending all

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Speaker 1: DEI programs in the company. So Zuckerberg said, hey, we're

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Speaker 1: done with fact checking. This is a headline that I

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Speaker 1: just got from Axios Exclusive three minutes ago. They are

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Speaker 1: ending DEI in in Meta, which is big in Silicon

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Speaker 1: Valley because this has been one of the places that

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Speaker 1: has most foisted DEI upon us.

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Speaker 2: We'll talk more about that.

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Speaker 1: I just think of timing is interesting because we're having

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Speaker 1: the LA wildfire discussion in the random fire chief who

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Speaker 1: basically if he ends up in need.

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Speaker 2: Well.

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Speaker 1: Also, i'd love to hear from other firefighters when you

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Speaker 1: I meant to give my review. I think this was

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Speaker 1: like right around Christmas that I went to go see

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Speaker 1: the movie. I don't know how many other people went

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Speaker 1: out and saw it, but I would say a solid

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Speaker 1: seven out of ten worth going to see. I don't

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Speaker 1: even know if it's still on in the theater or

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Speaker 1: if you can now get it and stream it.

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Speaker 2: It would definitely be worth streaming at home. I haven't

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Speaker 2: been to a movie alone in a very long I

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Speaker 2: think I've done once or twice before when I really

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Speaker 2: wanted to see a movie by myself. I saw The

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Speaker 2: Passion of the Christ alone. That's I think the only

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Speaker 2: movie that I've ever seen in theater. And he saw

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Speaker 2: Mel Gibson's making the rounds these days. He was on

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Speaker 2: The Rogan Show. But I might go see Nose Faratu.

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to get myself up to the Have you

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Speaker 2: guys seen this the remake of the original Nose Faratu?

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Speaker 2: Have you seen the original? I have not seen the original.

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Speaker 2: I'm a big branch Stokers Dracula both movie and book fan,

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Speaker 2: but I hear this movie. I don't know if you

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Speaker 2: read the reviews, it's a little uh dark and funky

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Speaker 2: stuff going on. Bad review Oh, Producer Ali says bad reviews.

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Speaker 2: I thought the.

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Speaker 1: Reviews were actually pretty good. The original Nose Faratu. I

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Speaker 1: took a German film course and I wrote a paper

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Speaker 1: on the original Nose Faratu movies.

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Speaker 2: That's like the biggest gut course I've ever heard of.

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Speaker 2: I took a German film course in college.

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Speaker 1: I also play Russian Russian cinema Russian cinema courses. Totalitarian

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Speaker 1: Films was actually really triumph the Wills, like I watched

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Speaker 1: all those movies actually really worth watching the original Nose Faratu,

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Speaker 1: which is the original Dracula movie nineteen twenty two. I

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Speaker 1: think it's a silent film classic. I wish you gotta

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Speaker 1: watch it.

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Speaker 2: I wish I could have hung out with Clay in

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Speaker 2: German film class in college.

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Speaker 6: Were