WEBVTT - Multiple U.S. Sailors Reportedly Attempt To Jump Overboard While On Extended Deployment 0:00:02.160 --> 0:00:05.440 Hey, the folks. It is Thursday, August thirteenth, and growing 0:00:05.640 --> 0:00:11.840 concern about US sailors and emerging reports that some have 0:00:12.080 --> 0:00:17.520 actually tried to jump off their ships in the middle 0:00:17.720 --> 0:00:21.000 of extended deployments during this war with Iran. And with that, 0:00:21.079 --> 0:00:26.440 welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ. Robes. Sweet. 0:00:26.520 --> 0:00:29.040 This is something that's now getting a lot more tension 0:00:29.040 --> 0:00:31.680 and focus, and it should. But when we hear just 0:00:31.800 --> 0:00:34.760 how long some of these men and women have been 0:00:34.800 --> 0:00:38.199 at sea, you could see why, Robes, no matter how 0:00:38.240 --> 0:00:41.080 strong they are, at some point you start to crack 0:00:41.120 --> 0:00:42.360 a little uh yes. 0:00:42.479 --> 0:00:46.519 And this story at first was shocking because to think 0:00:47.080 --> 0:00:52.680 that US service members sailors are so desperate, are so 0:00:53.440 --> 0:01:00.280 mentally strained that they considered ending their lives jumping off 0:01:00.400 --> 0:01:03.840 the ship. Because that's how bad it feels on board 0:01:03.960 --> 0:01:07.800 this ship. They're in their ninth month. Correct, that's a lot. 0:01:08.600 --> 0:01:10.959 That's a lot, babe. And this ship, the one we're 0:01:10.959 --> 0:01:13.920 talking about in particular here, is the USS Abraham Lincoln. 0:01:14.440 --> 0:01:17.399 And this is all coming up now, Robes, because just 0:01:17.959 --> 0:01:20.240 in recent days, well last week, end of last week, 0:01:20.640 --> 0:01:23.560 family members of these sailors who have been out there 0:01:23.600 --> 0:01:26.600 since last November, they've been at seasons. Last November they 0:01:26.600 --> 0:01:29.160 had a meeting with Navy leadership, and some of the 0:01:29.200 --> 0:01:31.360 stuff that came out of their robes is starting to 0:01:31.360 --> 0:01:34.720 be reported about. And yes, in fact, even though it 0:01:34.760 --> 0:01:38.000 doesn't seem right now robes, there are lots of reports 0:01:38.040 --> 0:01:41.920 of this, but there are some family members who are 0:01:41.920 --> 0:01:46.320 directly reporting they know their loved one either tried to 0:01:46.400 --> 0:01:49.720 jump off a ship or helped pull somebody back over. 0:01:49.840 --> 0:01:51.720 So these things seem to be real hero robes. 0:01:51.800 --> 0:01:54.480 Oh yes, I think it's very accurate and fair to say, 0:01:54.520 --> 0:01:58.000 given what we're hearing from family members, that multiple people 0:01:58.480 --> 0:02:03.320 have attempted to or considered jumping off the ship to 0:02:03.560 --> 0:02:07.880 escape their current conditions. And it sounds like they don't 0:02:07.880 --> 0:02:10.600 get to talk to family that often, that reception and 0:02:10.800 --> 0:02:14.800 communication is spotty at best based on their location. And 0:02:15.000 --> 0:02:17.720 I thought this was another just to try to imagine 0:02:17.760 --> 0:02:20.040 what it would be like to be on this aircraft 0:02:20.080 --> 0:02:23.880 carrier for that long, separated from your family, but separated 0:02:23.919 --> 0:02:27.960 from land. They've been at sea, like they're not going 0:02:28.000 --> 0:02:32.160 into ports and getting off and being on terra firma 0:02:32.280 --> 0:02:37.519 and hitting a restaurant just to break up just the monotony, 0:02:37.600 --> 0:02:41.040 but also just the endless days of work and not 0:02:41.240 --> 0:02:43.920 knowing when they're going to end all of that, just 0:02:43.960 --> 0:02:46.000 to not have a schedule, to not have an end date, 0:02:46.080 --> 0:02:47.160 to not have a break. 0:02:47.320 --> 0:02:50.280 They said, that's really Robes. You gotta have it because 0:02:50.520 --> 0:02:52.280 you have to have some kind of hope, some kind 0:02:52.280 --> 0:02:54.480 of optimism. You have to have something you can circle, 0:02:55.080 --> 0:02:58.079 I'm gonna see my baby on this day. Something. They're 0:02:58.120 --> 0:03:00.880 floating around roads and have no idea. We should explain. 0:03:00.960 --> 0:03:03.240 The one we're talking about here is the USS Abraham 0:03:03.320 --> 0:03:08.120 Lincoln based in San Diego. It left November twenty first Robes. 0:03:08.560 --> 0:03:10.280 That was supposed to be a six month tour, but 0:03:10.320 --> 0:03:12.680 it was supposed to be in the Pacific Ocean, and 0:03:12.720 --> 0:03:15.360 what happened. Of course, they get rerouted head to the 0:03:15.360 --> 0:03:18.240 Middle East and they have been there ever since. They 0:03:18.240 --> 0:03:22.560 were supposed to return home in May. Robes. When are 0:03:22.560 --> 0:03:24.080 they coming home now? Nobody knows. 0:03:24.800 --> 0:03:28.680 They've already missed a Thanksgiving, they've already missed a Christmas. Certainly, 0:03:28.680 --> 0:03:31.799 they've already missed countless milestones. And that's something you sign 0:03:31.919 --> 0:03:34.720 up for. We understand when you're a member of the military. 0:03:35.360 --> 0:03:41.240 But birthdays anniversaries, graduations, celebrations. But you have a reasonable 0:03:41.280 --> 0:03:44.680 expectation of an end date, and therefore you can mentally 0:03:44.760 --> 0:03:47.680 like so much of mental health is just knowing what's 0:03:47.720 --> 0:03:51.800 coming or feeling some semblance of control of your own life, 0:03:51.880 --> 0:03:54.720 of your own schedule. When you lose all of that 0:03:54.840 --> 0:03:57.960 and there's no end in sight, that is actually a 0:03:58.120 --> 0:04:02.440 recipe for I don't want to say insanity, but certainly 0:04:02.480 --> 0:04:04.240 a mental health crisis of some sort. 0:04:04.440 --> 0:04:06.720 Well roads, that is what's happening to them now. And 0:04:07.680 --> 0:04:10.040 I saw that and I got it, like that makes sense. 0:04:10.080 --> 0:04:12.080 I need something to circle. But you know what I 0:04:12.160 --> 0:04:14.800 thought about, and on its smaller scale, but you know, 0:04:14.920 --> 0:04:18.120 I'm probably worse than you are about this. I can't 0:04:18.120 --> 0:04:22.320 go for a run unless I know what our turnaround 0:04:22.440 --> 0:04:25.200 distance is going to be. You've seen this with me 0:04:25.360 --> 0:04:30.160 so many times. You're laughing, because for me, mentally, I 0:04:30.320 --> 0:04:33.000 need to know and have a target for when we 0:04:33.200 --> 0:04:35.760 are going to swing around and come back. We do 0:04:35.880 --> 0:04:38.920 five miles, ten miles or whatever. Sometimes we turn around 0:04:38.960 --> 0:04:40.800 at five somebody, we do this and that little thing. 0:04:40.880 --> 0:04:44.560 I always tell you, baby, I gotta know what we're doing. 0:04:44.920 --> 0:04:48.280 You are very regimented like that. It's funny. I'm not 0:04:48.440 --> 0:04:51.000 like that at all. I'm I can absolutely go with 0:04:51.040 --> 0:04:53.039 the flow and see where the path takes me and 0:04:53.080 --> 0:04:55.360 where I end up. And sometimes I go longer than 0:04:55.360 --> 0:04:57.599 I think. But I'm running with you. I know I 0:04:57.640 --> 0:04:59.640 need to have a set plan, a set route, and 0:04:59.680 --> 0:05:02.039 a set amount of miles that we're running. And I 0:05:02.120 --> 0:05:07.960 get that because expectations, schedules, having some sort of routine 0:05:08.600 --> 0:05:11.919 is extremely important for most people, but especially for folks 0:05:11.920 --> 0:05:15.760 who have those types of needs, and you are among them. 0:05:15.800 --> 0:05:17.360 And a lot of people are like that. I mean, 0:05:17.400 --> 0:05:19.680 I like to have a schedule too, But some people 0:05:19.720 --> 0:05:21.880 are more regimented than others. I would imagine if you're 0:05:21.880 --> 0:05:23.920 a member of the military and that appeals to you, 0:05:23.920 --> 0:05:27.400 you're probably more likely to be of your mindset like 0:05:27.440 --> 0:05:30.400 you like regiment, you like order, you like discipline. You 0:05:30.480 --> 0:05:33.080 appreciate all of those things because that's how you keep 0:05:33.240 --> 0:05:37.840 ships running, that's how you keep the military moving. And 0:05:38.160 --> 0:05:40.520 so to have all of that just up in the 0:05:40.520 --> 0:05:43.640 air for folks who like to have order and schedule 0:05:43.640 --> 0:05:47.239 and discipline, it's exceptionally difficult to navigate. 0:05:47.360 --> 0:05:49.480 To your point. You said you like to just kind 0:05:49.480 --> 0:05:50.960 of go with it. And see where it takes me. 0:05:51.160 --> 0:05:54.279 That works on a run. When you're own a deployment 0:05:54.320 --> 0:05:57.080 away from your family, we can't just wing it. They 0:05:57.120 --> 0:06:01.480 have to give these agreed men and women some hope 0:06:01.680 --> 0:06:04.479 of what they're fighting for, what they're doing is going 0:06:04.560 --> 0:06:09.000 to get them home. They have reports of sailors actually 0:06:09.120 --> 0:06:12.680 telling some publication Robes. All we want is an end date. 0:06:13.080 --> 0:06:16.279 We'll skip ports. We don't need a port if that'll 0:06:16.279 --> 0:06:19.320 get us home faster. But right now, as we sit 0:06:19.440 --> 0:06:22.880 here on August the thirteenth, their deployment will supposed to 0:06:23.040 --> 0:06:26.000 end in May. They have no idea when they might 0:06:26.120 --> 0:06:29.920 be coming home. So they had this meeting, these family members, 0:06:29.960 --> 0:06:32.240 and they did Robe. They expressed their concerns about the 0:06:32.279 --> 0:06:34.840 mental health of a lot of their family members who 0:06:34.839 --> 0:06:36.760 are on board. But what came out of this meeting 0:06:36.760 --> 0:06:39.080 and some of the reports that reporting is coming to 0:06:39.200 --> 0:06:41.880 us from mainly from a couple of places, the Navy Times. 0:06:41.920 --> 0:06:44.200 It's independent, but it covers things in the Navy, and 0:06:44.200 --> 0:06:45.960 then Stars and Stripes. I think a lot of people 0:06:46.040 --> 0:06:49.640 have heard of that one independent still but affiliated with 0:06:49.680 --> 0:06:52.240 the Pentagon and Robes. This is where most of the 0:06:52.240 --> 0:06:54.640 reports there's things were passing along now coming to us 0:06:54.640 --> 0:06:55.719 from those two outits. 0:06:55.520 --> 0:06:57.839 Ah, yes, and we heard directly from one wife. Her 0:06:57.920 --> 0:07:00.040 name is Annabel Loma, and she said this to the 0:07:00.160 --> 0:07:05.040 Navy Times. She said that her husband tried to jump 0:07:05.600 --> 0:07:10.400 overboard and texted her that he hopes he doesn't wake 0:07:10.520 --> 0:07:14.640 up tomorrow. That is frightening to get something, to get 0:07:14.640 --> 0:07:16.360 a report like that, and then to get a text 0:07:16.400 --> 0:07:18.400 like that, and to know there's nothing you can do. 0:07:18.800 --> 0:07:21.000 You can't pick up the phone and call his boss 0:07:21.120 --> 0:07:23.880 or something like that. Role you can't do anything. The 0:07:24.960 --> 0:07:27.960 outlet reported that he's now in a medical hold somewhere, 0:07:28.040 --> 0:07:30.160 but what's going to happen to him? She was concerned 0:07:30.480 --> 0:07:32.080 that he's going to be looked at like he was 0:07:32.080 --> 0:07:34.160 trying to desert or something. And now I think she's 0:07:34.200 --> 0:07:37.080 at thirteen years his career now is over and that's 0:07:37.080 --> 0:07:37.680 a damn shame. 0:07:37.840 --> 0:07:39.840 She said she was so afraid, and that he was 0:07:39.920 --> 0:07:43.560 concerned he was going to be dishonorably discharged. And he 0:07:43.680 --> 0:07:46.520 had a stellar career thirteen years. To know that just 0:07:46.560 --> 0:07:50.320 because his mental health is declining, given the experience that 0:07:50.400 --> 0:07:53.320 he's having, that that would somehow put or cast a 0:07:53.360 --> 0:07:56.880 shadow on all of those years of exemplary service is 0:07:56.920 --> 0:07:59.400 also demoralizing. I mean that has to be adding to 0:07:59.520 --> 0:08:02.400 his mental health right now at this point to think 0:08:02.400 --> 0:08:06.520 that because he was in such need that now that 0:08:06.600 --> 0:08:10.480 might actually have a lasting impact on his record. 0:08:11.840 --> 0:08:14.560 Another incident that is being reported by Stars and Stripes, 0:08:14.600 --> 0:08:18.080 another sailor was seen preparing to jump, and in this 0:08:18.160 --> 0:08:20.240 reporting it was a woman who reported that it was 0:08:20.240 --> 0:08:24.680 her husband who intervened in this one. Others helped as well, 0:08:24.720 --> 0:08:28.720 but again this was another directly coming from family members 0:08:29.360 --> 0:08:31.560 of those on board who are saying they're being told 0:08:31.720 --> 0:08:35.120 this stuff is happening, and another sailor telling Stars and 0:08:35.160 --> 0:08:37.520 Stripe and wraps it up, rope, there's nothing to look 0:08:37.559 --> 0:08:41.880 forward to. All we want is a date home. Ropes 0:08:41.880 --> 0:08:45.080 are floating around out that with no idea when they 0:08:45.160 --> 0:08:48.040 might be heading home. That is, and to your point 0:08:48.080 --> 0:08:50.680 we were talking about earlier, it's how long this deployment 0:08:50.679 --> 0:08:52.720 has been. It's more than two hundred and sixty days, 0:08:52.760 --> 0:08:57.000 but it's set a record of two hundred and seven 0:08:57.040 --> 0:09:00.520 plus days, Like you said, being at sea, that math 0:09:00.559 --> 0:09:02.240 that's five How is that? 0:09:02.440 --> 0:09:05.680 I cannot imagine, and don't ask me to do math. 0:09:06.160 --> 0:09:10.960 I cannot imagine not being on land for that long. Bro. 0:09:11.600 --> 0:09:16.440 Yeah, that's seven you're talking seven months almost of not 0:09:16.840 --> 0:09:18.199 setting foot on land. 0:09:18.800 --> 0:09:21.040 Like, just think about some of the things we all love. 0:09:21.120 --> 0:09:23.760 I mean, I honestly, I'm thinking about like just walking, 0:09:24.000 --> 0:09:28.160 going to a restaurant, using I don't know, just just 0:09:28.440 --> 0:09:31.200 interacting with people other than the people you work with 0:09:31.600 --> 0:09:35.600 day in and day out, a change of scenery, being 0:09:35.720 --> 0:09:40.880 on solid ground, just the basics not having the same. 0:09:40.960 --> 0:09:44.360 And look, they talk about the conditions aboard this ship too, 0:09:44.840 --> 0:09:48.640 and they are describing something that sounds like a horror show. 0:09:49.720 --> 0:09:52.880 They're talking about not having toothpaste. Did you see that? 0:09:53.360 --> 0:09:59.880 No toothpaste, moldy bathrooms, no hot water, no laundry services, 0:10:00.600 --> 0:10:05.840 running out of food supplies, being rationed down to tortillas 0:10:05.880 --> 0:10:09.000 and rice. I mean, that sounds horrific. 0:10:09.240 --> 0:10:11.000 I will say, I'll do this now. We're going to 0:10:11.080 --> 0:10:13.200 give you the full Nate Navy response to this. But 0:10:13.240 --> 0:10:15.720 they were they pushed back immediately on the food, like, 0:10:15.920 --> 0:10:18.840 are you kidding me? Obviously everyone has enough food. They 0:10:18.880 --> 0:10:21.480 even talked about how they have like ten to thirty 0:10:21.559 --> 0:10:25.760 days supplies just sitting there always on these ships and 0:10:25.800 --> 0:10:28.560 they get replenished by other ships that come out and whatnot. 0:10:28.600 --> 0:10:30.640 So they push back on that one pretty hard. 0:10:30.720 --> 0:10:32.960 This is an aircraft carrier, correct, So yes, you've got 0:10:33.040 --> 0:10:36.839 the ability to have aircraft and helicopters and all sorts 0:10:36.880 --> 0:10:44.280 of aircraft landing on that ship to provide certain amounts 0:10:44.280 --> 0:10:49.599 of just supplies. But look, they're describing despondent conditions. 0:10:49.600 --> 0:10:51.920 It doesn't that does not mean that this was not 0:10:52.000 --> 0:10:54.880 happening and wasn't real for many the sailors who are 0:10:54.880 --> 0:10:57.600 on that ship robes and I didn't know this, but 0:10:57.640 --> 0:11:00.960 sixty seven months is typical what they say, or aircraft carrier, 0:11:00.960 --> 0:11:02.760 what you could expect it to be out. They are 0:11:02.800 --> 0:11:07.079 getting longer given all that's going on roads. The longest 0:11:07.240 --> 0:11:12.080 deployment in history just happened. The longest one in modern 0:11:12.160 --> 0:11:14.720 history was the USS gerald Ford. It just got back 0:11:14.760 --> 0:11:17.120 in May. It was out for three hundred and twenty 0:11:17.160 --> 0:11:17.680 six days. 0:11:19.480 --> 0:11:23.040 Wow, so what is that? Ten months? Eleven months, that's 0:11:23.080 --> 0:11:25.960 almost a full year. And I was reading and I 0:11:26.000 --> 0:11:28.080 know you were too, in the Navy times just talking 0:11:28.120 --> 0:11:30.440 to some of the people who yes, are back home 0:11:30.600 --> 0:11:34.079 waiting and wondering when their loved ones are coming back, 0:11:34.080 --> 0:11:36.560 and one that really hit me was this young woman 0:11:36.600 --> 0:11:38.520 who's a high school senior and she wants her mom 0:11:38.559 --> 0:11:40.840 to come home. And she just said, I'm preparing for 0:11:40.880 --> 0:11:43.600 my senior year without knowing whether or not she's going 0:11:43.640 --> 0:11:46.880 to make it back for her homecoming dance, her birthday 0:11:47.040 --> 0:11:50.880 Christmas prompt, like she has no idea. She said, that's 0:11:51.000 --> 0:11:53.040 all I think about. And then she knows her mom 0:11:53.160 --> 0:11:55.640 is struggling. Just she said, she barely can communicate with her, 0:11:55.880 --> 0:11:58.080 but when she does, she said, she can tell that 0:11:58.120 --> 0:12:01.920 her mom is down. And that's got to be so hard, 0:12:02.080 --> 0:12:05.600 just worrying about your loved one on that ship, wondering 0:12:05.679 --> 0:12:08.480 what they're going through, and knowing you can't really have 0:12:08.559 --> 0:12:14.439 those daily conversations that you're used to. It's hard to imagine. 0:12:15.040 --> 0:12:17.240 But the Navy, like we said, pushed back on a 0:12:17.280 --> 0:12:20.160 lot of this, and they did give a response to 0:12:20.200 --> 0:12:23.160 these latest reports. Will let you hear what they have 0:12:23.240 --> 0:12:27.720 to say, yes, including their actual statement from the Navy 0:12:27.760 --> 0:12:28.800 about all this. There. 0:12:37.880 --> 0:12:40.559 Welcome back everyone to Amy and TJ. We are talking 0:12:40.559 --> 0:12:44.920 about some pretty shocking reports that are coming out of 0:12:44.960 --> 0:12:48.720 the USS. Abraham Lincoln correct, that's the name of the 0:12:48.800 --> 0:12:52.520 aircraft carrier that's been out to see now for well 0:12:52.520 --> 0:12:55.400 it's in its ninth month. They're just one week's shy 0:12:55.480 --> 0:12:57.640 of I guess fully being out to see for nine months. 0:12:57.679 --> 0:12:59.880 It was only supposed to be a six month deployment. 0:13:00.600 --> 0:13:05.160 And there are yes reports of multiple sailors wanting to 0:13:05.320 --> 0:13:12.240 attempting to jump ship literally to get away from the 0:13:12.280 --> 0:13:15.920 conditions on board, and just the mental health crisis they're 0:13:15.920 --> 0:13:19.360 experiencing in not knowing when they're coming home. And so 0:13:19.840 --> 0:13:25.040 the Navy is responding hearing from these families, hearing these reports, 0:13:25.080 --> 0:13:28.679 and they say what they're sending more mental health professionals 0:13:28.720 --> 0:13:33.319 to try and help out some of these service men 0:13:33.360 --> 0:13:34.480 and women who are struggling. 0:13:34.679 --> 0:13:37.679 I mean, I masure people know they already have counselors, 0:13:37.760 --> 0:13:42.559 chaplains and whatnot on every ship, and they say they 0:13:42.559 --> 0:13:45.959 have full access to whatever mental health services. But they 0:13:45.960 --> 0:13:47.800 did make the point that they're sending more. If they're 0:13:47.840 --> 0:13:51.000 sending more, they must recognize an increased need is what 0:13:51.040 --> 0:13:54.080 that suggests. But they are sending more. They again I 0:13:54.120 --> 0:13:56.000 told you, they push back on the idea of food 0:13:56.160 --> 0:13:59.360 being scarce, but also push back on the idea that 0:13:59.400 --> 0:14:02.880 there's an increase some suicide attempts or suicidal thoughts even 0:14:03.520 --> 0:14:07.640 or morale or guys being down. They push back on that, 0:14:07.679 --> 0:14:11.839 and I guess they should. It's just that's hard, right. 0:14:11.920 --> 0:14:14.600 We see on TV and the President's posting these things 0:14:14.679 --> 0:14:18.120 and everything looks super cool, and they doing playing video games. 0:14:18.160 --> 0:14:22.280 And look how they're blowing up ships. Wrote those the 0:14:22.360 --> 0:14:25.160 men and women on these ships. We all know the 0:14:25.200 --> 0:14:27.320 strain when you're away from your family. We all know 0:14:27.400 --> 0:14:31.320 the danger actually when you go into theater like that. 0:14:32.240 --> 0:14:36.720 But you add now that stress was already there. This 0:14:36.760 --> 0:14:40.400 is an added element of it, and you could see 0:14:40.400 --> 0:14:43.680 why it's enough for people to break. It happens in society, 0:14:43.720 --> 0:14:45.720 why wouldn't it be happening in our military as well. 0:14:45.760 --> 0:14:46.720 These are young people. 0:14:46.920 --> 0:14:49.520 They're young people. And look, I don't know if you've 0:14:49.520 --> 0:14:52.280 ever been on an aircraft carrier. It's like a little city, 0:14:52.600 --> 0:14:55.400 and so it looks big and huge and spacious, but man, 0:14:55.440 --> 0:15:00.160 when you go underneath, it is tight. It is submarine esque. 0:15:00.360 --> 0:15:03.160 And look just being in those confined quarters. I was 0:15:03.200 --> 0:15:08.360 on a ship and I was only on the ship 0:15:08.360 --> 0:15:10.720 for maybe what five hours? Six hours? And I wanted 0:15:10.760 --> 0:15:13.160 to get off, Like it is confining and I understand 0:15:13.160 --> 0:15:16.120 they sign up for this, but after a certain while, 0:15:16.280 --> 0:15:18.480 after a certain amount of time, and especially when you 0:15:18.600 --> 0:15:21.240 in your head mentally had an end date that you thought, okay, 0:15:21.520 --> 0:15:23.240 just make it till May. In May, I get to 0:15:23.240 --> 0:15:25.880 see my family. And now they didn't tell them, okay 0:15:25.880 --> 0:15:28.200 in September, you can see your family. In October, you 0:15:28.200 --> 0:15:31.320 can see your family in November. They don't know when 0:15:31.320 --> 0:15:34.240 they're getting off this ship. Add to that, so these 0:15:34.320 --> 0:15:39.000 close confined quarters where you're working NonStop, there aren't days 0:15:39.080 --> 0:15:41.680 off in the sense you can't go out and take 0:15:41.720 --> 0:15:45.200 a drive or go to the beach or hit a restaurant. No, 0:15:45.360 --> 0:15:48.000 you are on that ship and they haven't been to port. 0:15:48.440 --> 0:15:51.360 That makes so much sense that I think it's interesting 0:15:51.360 --> 0:15:54.400 that there was even any pushback that there's an increased 0:15:55.280 --> 0:15:56.760 mental health crisis on that ship. 0:15:56.840 --> 0:15:59.240 You can suggest that there was an issue with morale 0:15:59.400 --> 0:16:02.960 Ropes because Hexseeth is in charge. Now we got all 0:16:03.120 --> 0:16:07.920 this this dudes in dresses stuff out right. 0:16:08.000 --> 0:16:09.760 Yes, stop your whining. You can't complain. 0:16:09.920 --> 0:16:15.280 We've changed everything now, Warrior Ethos now that whole thing, Mabe. 0:16:15.680 --> 0:16:17.560 You can't make an admission that something is going on 0:16:17.560 --> 0:16:20.320 in the military that is hurting morale, that is causing 0:16:20.360 --> 0:16:24.120 them to be depressed, to have mental You can't do that. 0:16:24.160 --> 0:16:27.160 This is all rally rally and they are wildly impressive 0:16:27.880 --> 0:16:30.800 even with their struggles. I applaud them. But they're human beings. 0:16:31.680 --> 0:16:34.280 That's that's too lee. You gotta give them hope. You 0:16:34.360 --> 0:16:36.280 got to give them hope. The statement from the Navy 0:16:37.040 --> 0:16:40.000 did at least acknowledge robe that they we know that 0:16:40.120 --> 0:16:44.720 extended deployments place strained, significant strain. They say they're grateful 0:16:45.160 --> 0:16:48.280 for the sacrifices. They go on to talk about their 0:16:48.400 --> 0:16:51.720 health and well being of every sailor as a top priority. 0:16:51.760 --> 0:16:54.720 But they say, quote, based on information available to the command, 0:16:54.760 --> 0:16:59.920 we have not identified an increase in reported suicidal idea 0:17:00.640 --> 0:17:05.320 or suicide attempts aboard the ship. They say that flat 0:17:05.359 --> 0:17:08.000 out and clearly and plainly they want to push back. 0:17:08.119 --> 0:17:10.960 They're not seeing it, but just the caveat in front 0:17:10.960 --> 0:17:14.720 of that statement based on information available to the command, 0:17:14.880 --> 0:17:18.800 that does give them an out, so to speak, and 0:17:18.960 --> 0:17:19.760 have the information. 0:17:20.359 --> 0:17:22.199 And the funny how we always read these things. So 0:17:22.240 --> 0:17:26.440 we've been reading these things for thirty years. Yeah, statements 0:17:26.520 --> 0:17:28.960 have very careful language that cover their. 0:17:28.840 --> 0:17:33.760 Butts absolutely so yeah, in saying that they haven't identified 0:17:33.800 --> 0:17:36.760 an increase in any sort of mental health crisis. They 0:17:36.800 --> 0:17:38.959 then go on to say, we take every service member's 0:17:38.960 --> 0:17:42.360 well being seriously and have religious, medical, and mental health 0:17:42.359 --> 0:17:47.600 professionals available to assess and address concerns as they arise. 0:17:48.080 --> 0:17:52.920 Lincoln is providing a comprehensive support network, including onboard deployment 0:17:53.040 --> 0:17:58.960 resilience counselors, chaplain's fleet, and family support center services. They 0:17:58.960 --> 0:18:01.320 go on to just say that they are well equipped 0:18:01.359 --> 0:18:05.800 to handle whatever may be going on with these sailors. 0:18:06.200 --> 0:18:09.240 But look, they did push back on the reports that 0:18:10.359 --> 0:18:12.399 what they're eating, the fact that I mean there were 0:18:12.400 --> 0:18:14.840 reports they didn't have deodorant, they didn't have toothpaste. 0:18:15.000 --> 0:18:18.760 They pushed back on that. That last line, though, is 0:18:18.920 --> 0:18:23.719 built a little funny too. It's not just direct. They 0:18:23.800 --> 0:18:25.920 jump around a little bit. They say, quote, Lincoln is 0:18:25.960 --> 0:18:29.639 operating in a highly contested environment where traditional supply hubs 0:18:29.680 --> 0:18:33.000 in the Middle East were disrupted by combat operations. 0:18:33.320 --> 0:18:34.640 That seems acknowledging it. 0:18:34.680 --> 0:18:36.399 That seems to suggests, yeah, we've had a problem. You 0:18:36.400 --> 0:18:37.320 get food and stuff. 0:18:37.320 --> 0:18:40.199 We haven't been able to get the regular deliveries that 0:18:40.200 --> 0:18:42.880 we would have otherwise, because yes, we're in a very 0:18:42.960 --> 0:18:46.800 dangerous part of the world where anyone and everyone is 0:18:46.800 --> 0:18:48.720 subject to being shot at. 0:18:48.800 --> 0:18:54.479 So it said in response, leadership prioritized mission critical supplies first, food, 0:18:55.240 --> 0:18:59.040 then hygiene items, then mail, rubes. Those are that's as 0:18:59.080 --> 0:19:00.840 closer you're going to get to an admission. Yep, that 0:19:00.920 --> 0:19:03.800 we had to prioritize things, So hygiene items might have 0:19:03.880 --> 0:19:06.119 fallen by the wayside, just like mail because we had 0:19:06.119 --> 0:19:06.960 to get your food first. 0:19:07.040 --> 0:19:13.000 And look, I cannot imagine that these servicemen and women 0:19:13.119 --> 0:19:16.120 are making it up when they go on to tell 0:19:16.160 --> 0:19:20.879 their family moldy showers, broken toilets, no laundry, no hot water, 0:19:21.800 --> 0:19:23.440 a meal that came down to a cup of rice 0:19:23.480 --> 0:19:27.040 and two tortillas, no soap, no deodorant, no toothpaste, Like, 0:19:27.320 --> 0:19:28.640 why would they say that. 0:19:28.680 --> 0:19:33.240 These aren't verbo reviews. They're telling their families this stuff 0:19:33.280 --> 0:19:36.000 back home. So yes, we can take them at their 0:19:36.040 --> 0:19:39.840 words for what they're experiencing. They go on the navy 0:19:39.840 --> 0:19:42.720 here talking about current reports from the ship confirm continuous 0:19:42.760 --> 0:19:47.080 access to clean water, functional AC and healthy meal options. 0:19:47.600 --> 0:19:52.800 Current reports from the ship confirm current reports. It's almost 0:19:52.840 --> 0:19:54.320 like they're getting a who are you talking to? 0:19:54.800 --> 0:19:58.720 Bizarre? And then you've got Pete Heseth going out publicly 0:19:58.840 --> 0:20:02.560 and dismissing these counts from the men and women who 0:20:02.720 --> 0:20:06.239 he claims are the bravest, most courageous, strongest folks in 0:20:07.240 --> 0:20:11.000 the world. He described these accounts as more fake news. 0:20:11.280 --> 0:20:14.600 Is he saying that the news media is making this up? 0:20:15.440 --> 0:20:17.480 Oh? I didn't know he was going there. 0:20:17.640 --> 0:20:20.520 Yeah, So that makes no sense to me because actually 0:20:20.560 --> 0:20:25.159 the reports are coming from as you mentioned, Navy Times, 0:20:25.520 --> 0:20:30.040 Stars and Stripes, ABC and CBS and CNN and the 0:20:30.040 --> 0:20:33.760 people who they like to put into that category of 0:20:33.800 --> 0:20:35.879 fake news. It wasn't coming from them. 0:20:36.280 --> 0:20:38.159 I need a go to like that. They have a 0:20:38.200 --> 0:20:40.639 go to anytime there's something reported they don't like, just 0:20:40.640 --> 0:20:43.480 fake news and move on. Not going to address it. 0:20:43.640 --> 0:20:45.919 I'm not going to answer anything. Just fake news and 0:20:46.000 --> 0:20:48.440 move on if it's something they don't like and it's 0:20:48.600 --> 0:20:51.440 not go in line with whatever they're trying to put out. 0:20:52.240 --> 0:20:55.119 We need something like that, just dismissive of anything somebody 0:20:55.119 --> 0:20:56.440 throws at us. Yeah. 0:20:56.600 --> 0:20:59.960 I believe are men and women in uniform who are 0:21:00.080 --> 0:21:02.879 reporting back to their families about what they're going through. 0:21:03.080 --> 0:21:04.560 And I think most Americans do too. 0:21:04.680 --> 0:21:06.760 Yeah, it's not fake. That's not fake. But this is 0:21:06.800 --> 0:21:08.680 one to keep an eye on. And there's some members 0:21:08.720 --> 0:21:11.000 of Congress who are looking into this as well and 0:21:11.040 --> 0:21:13.640 do want answers from the Pentagon. So one to keep 0:21:13.680 --> 0:21:16.080 a close eye on and keep an eye on, and 0:21:16.160 --> 0:21:18.480 keep your thoughts on. The men and women on board 0:21:18.480 --> 0:21:22.480 at USS Abraham Lincoln nine months at CE Robes and 0:21:22.520 --> 0:21:24.240 were supposed to be out there for six And you 0:21:24.240 --> 0:21:26.600 don't know if you're going to be out there for ten, eleven, twelve. 0:21:26.600 --> 0:21:28.160 You don't know if you're going to be home for Thanksgiving, 0:21:28.440 --> 0:21:33.200 for Christmas, for anything. So keep an eye USS Abraham 0:21:33.400 --> 0:21:35.359 Lincoln and Robes the one that had the record, Just 0:21:35.400 --> 0:21:37.080 to tell you know, I forgot to make this point. 0:21:37.119 --> 0:21:39.360 The USS Gerald four that say has been out three 0:21:39.359 --> 0:21:43.800 on twenty six days. You know why Robes it went out. 0:21:44.000 --> 0:21:49.480 It supported the Venezuela operation, then had to turn around 0:21:49.840 --> 0:21:52.879 and support the Iranian operation. You talking about warning the 0:21:52.920 --> 0:21:58.240 hell out. They literally had to take part in two wars, 0:21:58.680 --> 0:22:01.719