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Speaker 1: I cheated on my ex wife then got cheated on

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Speaker 1: by my new wife. What do I do?

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Speaker 2: Stop getting married? That's right? And this comes from sewing seasons. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: who says I? Thirty seven male have been with my

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Speaker 2: wife twenty six female for five years and married for four,

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Speaker 2: which means this man in his thirties was with the

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Speaker 2: twenty one year old until she is not twenty six.

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Speaker 1: Maybe maybe don't date immature people. I feel like not

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Speaker 1: all twenty one year olds are immature totally, but maybe

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Speaker 1: OP is dating immature twenty one year olds.

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Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. That cheat, I'm here, I'm with you.

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Speaker 2: We have three kids from her previous relationships. Oooh damn.

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Speaker 2: Twenty one already had three kids who are two boys

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Speaker 2: and one girl between the ages of five and eight.

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Speaker 2: I really love her and her kids. Things were perfect,

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Speaker 2: entailed between the ages of five and eight.

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Speaker 1: So wait, she's here kids, she's twenty four, she's twenty six,

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Speaker 1: she's twenty six with sjaa k eighteen.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, quick early. I really love her and

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Speaker 2: her kids. Things were perfect until three or four months ago.

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Speaker 2: I've had three big promotions in five years. We bought

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Speaker 2: a house, together, she stays home with the kids and

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Speaker 2: is trying to make a social media career happen. I

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Speaker 2: have always been on the fence about oh you're laughing, laughing,

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Speaker 2: haw Riley.

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Speaker 3: Oh he laughing.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yea, he was funny.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm just like, hey, making a social media

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Speaker 1: career happen.

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Speaker 2: It's hard, It's tough.

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Speaker 3: It's how much these boys have had to grind.

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Speaker 1: You have to really grind. You can't just you can't

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Speaker 1: just be posting a few tiktoks. You gotta post.

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Speaker 2: Every day, twelve times a day, twelve dogs.

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Speaker 3: A DoD right for the week.

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Speaker 2: That's right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it is not, And it's not something you can

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Speaker 1: have ass no, no, one hundred percent and not saying

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Speaker 2: And I think most people assume that it's like, oh,

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Speaker 2: it's like Kim Kardashian, you just like share stuff about

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Speaker 2: your life and then people get it. Yeah. Oh it's

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Speaker 2: so easy, so simple. You couldn't read story like, no

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Speaker 2: one can, dude. Sounds like such jackasses right now. I

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Speaker 2: am the best reader ever. That's true. You know what

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Speaker 2: we are? Fourth grade? Fourth grade.

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Speaker 1: I was in the special reading group special Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: was in the gray walruses the most elite reading group

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Speaker 1: I wasn't born to read, I don't know what I

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Speaker 3: I had to go read with the special kids too, But.

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Speaker 2: I'm not saying you didn't really position yourself.

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Speaker 3: Really were there?

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Speaker 2: Oh gotta love it? Well, you know what, Let's do

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Speaker 2: what we do best and keep reading the dance story.

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Speaker 2: I have always been on the fence about having kids,

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Speaker 2: but she really wanted us to have one together, so

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Speaker 2: I agreed to try to have my vasectomy reverse snip

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Speaker 2: snap snip. Snow already has a vaseectimy. You know how

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Speaker 2: hard it is reverse or vasectomy. I don't want to

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Speaker 2: think about it. I don't want to think about it.

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Speaker 3: Why do you don't want to think about it? Did

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Speaker 3: you get viseectimized? Why do you want to think about it?

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Speaker 2: John, I didn't get missectimized, and I also did not

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Speaker 2: get a v sectomy. Will you get a vasectomy? No?

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Speaker 2: Let's say you're pumping out like thirty kids. I mean

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Speaker 2: if I have thirty kids, absolutely so, then you would

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Speaker 2: get a a sectimy. Sure, but I probably ten kids, uh,

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Speaker 2: probably after ten kids. Yeah, okay, so ten might go

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Speaker 2: up to ten. Of the ten, I could be liable

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Speaker 2: depending on how well we do here. Ten kids maybe.

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Speaker 1: So the amount of kids you have is a factor

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Speaker 1: of how much disposable income you have.

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Speaker 2: That is a huge factor. Yes, damn, he's response, you're

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Speaker 2: trying to raise a village. I'm not. But if you can't,

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Speaker 2: I'm not trying. I've always said it historically, I want

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Speaker 2: to have five kids. That's what I said. Yeah, that's

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, he told me that five kids.

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Speaker 2: I didn't know. Yeah. However, as I grow older, I'm

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Speaker 3: Damn, what about you?

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Speaker 2: Dam I mean, I'm a classic two four, classic two.

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Speaker 2: And we're starting right now. Go yeah.

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Speaker 1: But speaking of babies and pregnancy, my wife is now

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Speaker 2: We are so freaking happy. My ex wife, thirty eight female,

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Speaker 2: I'm guessing not so happy, divorced me in twenty nineteen

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Speaker 2: and moved about two hours away a few months into

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Speaker 2: the pandemic. Our divorce was amicable, but once it was finalized,

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Speaker 2: I never heard from her again, even when I would

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Speaker 2: wish her well on birthdays and holidays. I even sent

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Speaker 2: her a graduation gift when I heard that she finished

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Speaker 2: her PhD program. Other people in our social circle, including

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Speaker 2: my parents and sister in law, who sent her a gift,

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Speaker 2: received handwritten thank you cards. So this is a this

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Speaker 2: is an intentional, intentional shunning, which not to justify the shutting.

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Speaker 1: It's your ex wife, I mean, like if you run

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Speaker 1: and get I think this potentially might have been before

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Speaker 2: He met his twenty six year old girlfriend five years ago,

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Speaker 2: if he met her any earlier. When did the opie

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Speaker 2: and his ex wife so great twenty she was twenty

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Speaker 2: he was with her. He started started singing when.

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Speaker 1: She was When did the ex end his wife? When

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Speaker 1: did he break up with his ex wife?

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Speaker 2: That's a great question. I don't you know. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I don't know that we have.

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Speaker 1: That question is did the shunning happen prior to that's

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Speaker 1: the creationship priori point.

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Speaker 2: Which it absolutely could have yes, you're totally right. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I think I was getting something mixed up. Totally could

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Speaker 2: My ex wife is a really kind and thoughtful person,

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Speaker 2: and the woman I knew would have at least sent

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Speaker 2: Well maybe you're worse than her worst enemy pal. Even

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Speaker 2: though we broke up, I didn't think she hated me. Well,

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Speaker 2: maybe she started icing him out after he started dating

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Speaker 2: I don't know it could it could have started before

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Speaker 1: Because it doesn't sound like like it doesn't sound like, oh,

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Speaker 1: of being separated and now she's you're sorry.

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Speaker 2: You're right.

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Speaker 1: It was as soon as the divorce was finalized is

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Speaker 2: Before he met the girl. We have to assume.

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Speaker 1: I have to assume great point unless he was in

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Speaker 2: But I don't think that's true. I don't think so.

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Speaker 2: I think you. I think you cracked the case of

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Speaker 2: jer Sam. We got it baby. My best friend thirty five.

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Speaker 2: Mail and I were best friends since college. He's the

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Speaker 2: best best person I know, and at least ten people

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Speaker 2: think he's their best friend. But he said I was

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Speaker 2: always his. We kind of lost touch during the pandemic.

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Speaker 2: We live two hours apart, and he is a lawyer

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Speaker 2: and teaches classes at a university, so he is really busy.

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Speaker 2: I have a really busy career and a new wife

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Speaker 2: and three kids. I didn't realize that the text between

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Speaker 2: us were fewer, and the last time he finally replied

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Speaker 2: to me was in late twenty twenty one. He also

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Speaker 2: falls off the face of the earth when he gets

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Speaker 2: a new girl, and then when things cool off, we

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Speaker 2: all hear from him.

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Speaker 1: More conspiracy theory hit me with her baby Boom. He's

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Speaker 1: dating Op's ex wife, but he always pulls back from

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Speaker 1: communication when there's a new girl. The new girl is

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Speaker 1: Op's x wife.

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Speaker 2: But in it seems he's saying in previous relationships he

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Speaker 2: would also not be as communicative.

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Speaker 1: Yes, but the reason that Op's ex wife is not

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Speaker 1: communicating with Op is because Ope's ex wife cheated with

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Speaker 2: It could be, it could be reality, give actual reality.

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Speaker 2: We have always been the kind of friends that could

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Speaker 2: go an extended period of time without communicating, then pick

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Speaker 2: right back up where we left off. I kept saying

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Speaker 2: My wife and I went to visit the city he

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Speaker 2: and my ex life live in last summer for a week,

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Speaker 2: and I tried calling him a couple of times to

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Speaker 1: M suspicious, he's too busy bone in Your ex wife.

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Speaker 2: Oh god, your current wife, oh god. I was sad,

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Speaker 2: but just figured he was busy with work or obsessed

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Speaker 2: with a new girlfriend. I have other friends there, so

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Speaker 2: I got to see them. Then I went to the

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Speaker 2: I figured he'd be at this party, and I was

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Speaker 2: When I went to say hi and hug him, he

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Speaker 2: looked a little surprised and gave me a week hug. Damn,

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Speaker 2: You're special. Conspiracy theory is looking more like realities. He

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Speaker 2: just said, yeah, I was on honeymoon that week. Sorry

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Speaker 2: I didn't get back to you. Didn't get invited to

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Speaker 2: the wedding clearly did not why. I was really shocked

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Speaker 2: that my best friend got married without me even knowing

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Speaker 2: he had a serious girlfriend, but still was happy for him.

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Speaker 2: Like I said, he's a great guy. Girls love him.

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Speaker 2: I sped out a rush of questions, like who is she,

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Speaker 2: where is she? What's her name? What's she like? Where'd

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Speaker 2: you meet her? How long have you been together? He

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Speaker 2: paused for a moment and then just bluntly said, it's

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Speaker 2: your ex wife who called that? Dude? Ladies and gentlemen,

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Speaker 2: he called the freak out of that. Yeah, okaye? About

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Speaker 2: that my ex wife doesn't have a unique name or

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Speaker 2: anything that he said? He said the ex wife's first name.

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Speaker 2: My ex wife doesn't have a unique first name or anything,

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Speaker 2: but it isn't the most common name either, and I

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Speaker 2: instantly knew it was her. I can't describe how it

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Speaker 2: felt to hear those two words I'm that at his mouth.

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Speaker 2: I felt sick to my stomach, disgusted, and immediately wanted

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Speaker 2: to die. I have never felt like that before. I

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Speaker 2: just said, what the F I feel bad for op,

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Speaker 2: that's that is that's tough. That is really, But I mean,

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Speaker 2: is was Op the one who cheated? Or was it

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Speaker 2: his ex wife that cheated? I don't. I don't know

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Speaker 2: that there was any cheating, right rightly, I don't. I

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Speaker 2: don't think there was no.

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Speaker 1: We haven't heard about any cheating. Was the title.

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Speaker 2: Divorce was amicable? I forgot about the title. But let's

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Speaker 2: get back to the sort. Let's do it like we're

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Speaker 2: about to get more information. He told me that I

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Speaker 2: didn't get to be mad because I broke her heart

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Speaker 2: and they didn't start dating until two years after we

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Speaker 2: got divorced, and then I chose to be with some waitress. Anyways, Ouch, dude,

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Speaker 2: She didn't say anything when I mentioned my best friend

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I called her stupid. This is this is just

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Speaker 2: We're definitely comparing.

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Speaker 3: He's definitely jealous.

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Speaker 2: I'm jealous of his best friend. Now now that he

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Speaker 3: On about oh my classes rather than like, oh my mortgage. Exactly,

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Speaker 3: thank you, Riley, remember that when you have to worry

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Speaker 3: about that. Now you're like, where am I going to sleep?

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Speaker 3: And no, in the old man community, what do you

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Speaker 2: No? No, no, what is it called?

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Speaker 1: No, I'm not giving it to you old folks.

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Speaker 3: On what closes your loofah? Better sit, pink?

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Speaker 2: What color is my loofa? We've got over this joke before.

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Speaker 3: Sorry, we've got over it. Old I forget, he forgets

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Speaker 2: I remember now, I remember, I forgot. It's too easy

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Speaker 2: back to the story. My wife doesn't love me the

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Speaker 2: Bro Come on, I don't even have my best friend

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Speaker 2: A lot of friends agree that they both betrayed me,

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Speaker 1: I can't help, you know, or I can't not help.

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Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying, is like, I'm always like, hey,

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Speaker 2: Why do I need to see a doctor? Maybe to

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Speaker 1: And you know, like Barry Bonds was already good at baseball,

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Speaker 1: So it's just like, use the steroids. You know, Barry's

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Speaker 2: I mean it can always be on the table. You

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Speaker 2: this is you Like, like I feel like Opie's like,

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Speaker 2: I am thinking of driving to their city to show

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Speaker 2: it is. How do I get my wife to see that?

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Speaker 2: It is hard to trust her after knowing she kept

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Speaker 1: It's so rough because like trust eroded with like the

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Speaker 2: Yes, at the same time, Domino just straight Domino's okay,

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Speaker 2: I understand him being like, my whole world's falling now.

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Speaker 2: I totally agree with that. And we haven't. Opie hasn't

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Speaker 3: Yeah, wait, cheating happened.

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Speaker 2: Potentially we don't know each other. Title, we don't know yet.

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Speaker 2: But okay, if OPI didn't cheat, actually that does change

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna say. I'm gonna say he did cheat. I

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Speaker 2: Not sure that's true.

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Speaker 1: I think Op's best friend cheated with his wife while they.

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Speaker 2: Were still together. Yeah, that that is That is really bad.

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Speaker 2: But is there an update? Oh, there's an updates.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I have a question real quick for you guys.

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Speaker 3: Uh bro code. Oh yeah, So Sam, Let's say you

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Speaker 3: Would you want me to ask you for your permission

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Speaker 1: No, you would say like, hey, I've been talking to

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Speaker 1: I didn't, then that would be a violation of broke out.

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Speaker 3: Now okay, that was the only question.

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Speaker 1: Well, it sounds I think. I think like anyone that.

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Speaker 3: You've only been seeing her for like three months though,

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Speaker 2: Wait wait wait wait wait and any of my exes

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Speaker 2: up with. That's fair. Yeah, I think that's totally fair. Wow.

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Speaker 3: Now it's a lot of people.

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Speaker 2: Here's the question. Okay, I have like eleven people. I

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Speaker 1: But it's like a couple years after. Yeah, a couple

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Speaker 2: Then yeah.

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Speaker 2: So, where where's the cutoff?

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Speaker 1: Oh, it's like how many months post?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what's the time? What's the time?

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Speaker 2: If you dated for a day, been two.

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Speaker 3: double but like to your man, do you not get

435
00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:02,399
Speaker 3: over someone over two years.

436
00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:05,360
Speaker 2: But what if you dated someone he dated someone for

437
00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:10,160
Speaker 2: twenty years, you have to wait forty yeah forty Wow,

438
00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:14,159
Speaker 2: But dude, I mean dating or sorry dating being married

439
00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:16,680
Speaker 2: or dating plus being being in a relationship with someone

440
00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:18,639
Speaker 2: sorry for twenty years.

441
00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:22,560
Speaker 1: Dude, you need a lot of time to laughs, a lot.

442
00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:26,880
Speaker 2: Of time, like ten years forty that's that's a safe zone.

443
00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:30,159
Speaker 2: That's that's so double the time is the say is

444
00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:34,480
Speaker 2: the automatic safe zone. Yeah, and it's possible to be

445
00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:36,960
Speaker 2: ok to be okay with you know, less time, but

446
00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:41,240
Speaker 2: that's when you into like possibly red territory. Yeah, it's

447
00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:43,159
Speaker 2: like green and then yellow to orange to red and

448
00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:45,879
Speaker 2: also like that person just might not want to hang

449
00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:46,560
Speaker 2: out with you anymore.

450
00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:49,240
Speaker 3: Putting on this on the table, I don't want to

451
00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:51,840
Speaker 3: get any flames with the comments. I would never date

452
00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:53,320
Speaker 3: anyone that Sam has dated.

453
00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:56,240
Speaker 2: Is trying to date the person I'm dating.

454
00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:57,600
Speaker 3: No, I would never do that.

455
00:22:57,880 --> 00:22:59,399
Speaker 2: Uh, he's trying.

456
00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:01,360
Speaker 3: I'm gonna happy relationship. I was just trying to get

457
00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:06,000
Speaker 3: some animosity, but my bro code, No, that's not your bro. Honestly,

458
00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:08,680
Speaker 3: it's not your bro. If a bro dates another girl

459
00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:10,720
Speaker 3: that you've already dated, low key you're dead to me,

460
00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:14,120
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be honest, that's how I feel about.

461
00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:17,320
Speaker 1: It, even if it's twice as long as the relationship was.

462
00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:20,360
Speaker 3: Yep, so I used to I used to love her, bro,

463
00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:22,960
Speaker 3: and now you you want to take her? Now, come on,

464
00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:24,119
Speaker 3: come on for you.

465
00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:28,280
Speaker 2: It's it's literally never never never. Yeah. When I put

466
00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:31,440
Speaker 2: I like never more, never is I like never more

467
00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:35,040
Speaker 2: never is better. That's kind of I'm I'm I'm I

468
00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:36,760
Speaker 2: was trying to be a little reasonable. I like that,

469
00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:41,399
Speaker 2: but ideally never yeah, yeah, because because to me, I'm like,

470
00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:45,879
Speaker 2: if you it, in my experience, it takes some time

471
00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:50,840
Speaker 2: to develop those feelings in that time being in a relationship.

472
00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:55,199
Speaker 2: So if you need to check with your bro before

473
00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:57,880
Speaker 2: you enter the relationship, it can't really get so far

474
00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:01,320
Speaker 2: that it's like, but I'm desperately love with her. It's

475
00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:03,880
Speaker 2: like no, you're just like maybe in the very initial

476
00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:07,119
Speaker 2: stages on a date with it, and you're like, Okay,

477
00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:09,080
Speaker 2: it's not it's not a good reason for that, and

478
00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:11,520
Speaker 2: then you back off and then the feelings don't grow

479
00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:13,199
Speaker 2: to a point of no return.

480
00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:16,360
Speaker 3: You could either be my friend or be with her. Yeah, yeah,

481
00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:20,000
Speaker 3: I have both, Like I could not like like you're no,

482
00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:23,960
Speaker 3: absolutely not that would know. Yeah, horribly.

483
00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:26,000
Speaker 2: No, when you put me in it, I'm like, oh

484
00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:35,240
Speaker 2: wait a second, now, I see I've seen the lives.

485
00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:38,359
Speaker 3: Even say I'm a hard time, You're like, oh, I know,

486
00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:40,040
Speaker 3: like this freaking guy Like.

487
00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:45,879
Speaker 2: Oh wait right, anyways, empathy in real time, in real time.

488
00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:51,400
Speaker 2: Let's get back to this update. So the overwhelming consensus

489
00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:54,080
Speaker 2: here is that I am a piece of crap, which

490
00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:56,480
Speaker 2: is true. He calls himself a piece of crap even

491
00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:59,679
Speaker 2: with even harsher terms. The other consensus is that I

492
00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:02,720
Speaker 2: need therapy. I asked my brother to help me, but

493
00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:05,200
Speaker 2: neither of us even know where to begin to find

494
00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:05,800
Speaker 2: a therapist.

495
00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:15,200
Speaker 1: Wait, well you can go to now yeah internet, Yeah,

496
00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:20,720
Speaker 1: you can listen, okay, op, yes, therapist and search it's

497
00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:21,440
Speaker 1: three yeah.

498
00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:24,440
Speaker 3: And we're better than therapists because we can actually give advice.

499
00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:32,080
Speaker 2: Honestly, join our guard Yeah, and hang with people that

500
00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:33,680
Speaker 2: are here this more yeah.

501
00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:38,280
Speaker 3: But yeah, uh, therapist legally legally cannot give you advice,

502
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:38,919
Speaker 3: but we can.

503
00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:41,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're not license, but we've read.

504
00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:42,640
Speaker 3: We have so much.

505
00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:45,600
Speaker 2: We have a wealth of knowledge. Between all three of us,

506
00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:47,760
Speaker 2: we have more knowledge than any time.

507
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:50,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, between the three of us, we have three hundred

508
00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:55,840
Speaker 3: years worth of experience, John taking on most of it.

509
00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:59,800
Speaker 2: So I'm so, I'm like two hundreds, I'm over to

510
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:04,119
Speaker 2: hundred years old. Literally, How did we go from twenty

511
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:07,560
Speaker 2: seven to over two hundred truly? How did we get here?

512
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:11,399
Speaker 2: How did we arrive at this at this point in time?

513
00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:14,280
Speaker 2: How did we get here? Yeah?

514
00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:17,560
Speaker 1: You know, if you, if you've lived as many years

515
00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:20,000
Speaker 1: as you, I would be wondering the same thing.

516
00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:22,119
Speaker 2: How did we get to this point of time? But

517
00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:25,000
Speaker 2: you can't even remember it. I can't even remember what's

518
00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:28,920
Speaker 2: going on anymore? What happened? If I just you know what,

519
00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:32,760
Speaker 2: I just made some notes. I told them, you don't

520
00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:34,679
Speaker 2: need to worry about it. That's where the Peohn's going

521
00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:35,920
Speaker 2: to do something for the future.

522
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:36,840
Speaker 3: For the future.

523
00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:40,879
Speaker 2: Boy, let's get back to the story. He said. He

524
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:42,639
Speaker 2: said he would ask his wife to help us, and

525
00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:45,240
Speaker 2: she texted me this morning and said she was only

526
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:48,520
Speaker 2: helping because of my brother. I guess that's fair. Okay,

527
00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:50,560
Speaker 2: wait a second, So picking up on that real quick.

528
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,040
Speaker 2: So him and his brother are like, how do you

529
00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:54,560
Speaker 2: find a therapist? I don't even know where to begin.

530
00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:56,840
Speaker 2: And then he's like, hey, could your wife help us?

531
00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:59,760
Speaker 2: And the wife is like, I'm only helping you because

532
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:03,840
Speaker 2: of you're my husband's brother. I feel like everyone hates

533
00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:09,440
Speaker 2: Opie because maybe Opie cheated. I yeah, yep, called it

534
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:15,120
Speaker 2: because I'm confused. Old on the original the truth, the

535
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:19,919
Speaker 2: the uh original Reddit title Opie thirty seven male cheated

536
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:22,800
Speaker 2: on his on his first wife. Oh so Opie did

537
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:26,000
Speaker 2: cheat on his first wife? I believe so maybe we

538
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:27,760
Speaker 2: just I don't. I don't know that. But how did

539
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:32,240
Speaker 2: it end amicably if he cheated? I wonder if they

540
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:35,439
Speaker 2: She was very cordial and like, hey, I'm not going

541
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:37,440
Speaker 2: to give you disfavorable terms. I'm not going to fight

542
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 2: you like whatever. I'm just gonna But she's like, let

543
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:41,840
Speaker 2: me make this easy, to be done with it. I'll smile,

544
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:46,480
Speaker 2: I'll take the hand, whatever. And then I'm freaking ghosting him.

545
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:49,760
Speaker 2: That seems that seems very probable to me, Right, yeah,

546
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:51,640
Speaker 2: I'll just put up with him during the divorce.

547
00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:55,359
Speaker 1: All so, he never brought up the fact that he

548
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:57,840
Speaker 1: cheated in this entire story except in the title.

549
00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:00,400
Speaker 2: Is that is that I'm understanding that? Right? So far?

550
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:04,399
Speaker 2: So far? Nothing? No wonder everyone hates him because.

551
00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:07,120
Speaker 1: He's not He's not really like I don't see many

552
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 1: instances of a holary except like calling his wife stupid

553
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:11,199
Speaker 1: and stuff like.

554
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 2: That's pretty left up.

555
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, but uh, I'm getting little tiny hints, yeah, hint,

556
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:19,600
Speaker 1: little from his perspective, So it's like harder to pick

557
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:21,399
Speaker 1: up on biggest age.

558
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 2: Gap, age gap that should have in my opinion, Yeah,

559
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 2: you leave your wife. What's so crazy is if you

560
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:33,600
Speaker 2: cheat on your wife to get divorced and then you

561
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:35,360
Speaker 2: immediately run into a twenty one year old.

562
00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:37,040
Speaker 1: Well, I think that's what happened.

563
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying is that's that's kind of crazy.

564
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:43,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, and of and also not realizing why your wife

565
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 1: wouldn't talk to you afterwards.

566
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 2: Yes, now it all makes sense. Yes, if it's.

567
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:52,280
Speaker 1: True, which I think now we're understanding it is that

568
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:56,400
Speaker 1: Op cheated on his wife with a twenty one year

569
00:28:56,400 --> 00:29:00,840
Speaker 1: old and then immediately got with her, had a kid

570
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:03,400
Speaker 1: with her, got married, didn't.

571
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:05,240
Speaker 2: Have he hasn't had a kid yet. She has three

572
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:07,760
Speaker 2: kids from a previous relationship, do they not? Are they

573
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 2: not having any kid? They're talking about okay, getting a kid,

574
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:11,600
Speaker 2: but haven't.

575
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 1: Anyway, got married. Yeah, of course his ex wife is

576
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 1: not going to want to talk to him. Yes, the

577
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:20,240
Speaker 1: best friend cheating or the best friend. I would still

578
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:22,480
Speaker 1: probably feel a little sad about the best friend.

579
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:25,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like it, but like, but you kind

580
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 2: of have you have to have a twinge of like

581
00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:30,560
Speaker 2: karma came for me. Yeah, a twine and also like

582
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:33,920
Speaker 2: is it well, when did this story take place? This

583
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 2: story took place.

584
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 3: Uh, February ninth of this year of twenty twenty four.

585
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 2: Okay, so that's that's pretty recent.

586
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:46,600
Speaker 1: Okay, but you haven't talked to your best friend quote

587
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:50,920
Speaker 1: unquote best friend since twenty twenty one. Yep, you haven't

588
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:52,800
Speaker 1: talked to your best friend in three years?

589
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 3: Oh, time out, time out, time out, time out. So

590
00:29:55,000 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 3: the original the original title is wife married my best friend,

591
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:06,720
Speaker 3: it's killing me and destroyed my marriage. That's the original.

592
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:09,400
Speaker 1: Titles like these are like the update title.

593
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 2: Okay, so the update titles.

594
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:12,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the original right there.

595
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:16,240
Speaker 1: Okay, So okay, okay, so we haven't Yeah, I'm so,

596
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:19,760
Speaker 1: but when did the first one come? Yeah, it's all in,

597
00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:23,280
Speaker 1: it's all in twenty twenty four on February. How is

598
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:26,240
Speaker 1: your best friend? How are you not talking to your

599
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:28,560
Speaker 1: best friends in twenty twenty one? In three years and

600
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:29,640
Speaker 1: that's still your best friend.

601
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:32,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, that seems kind of sus I think op is

602
00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:34,760
Speaker 2: a little like I don't know what the right way

603
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:39,360
Speaker 2: to fit. But like for example, him obituse yeah, like

604
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:42,120
Speaker 2: him being like, Okay, I haven't seen this guy in

605
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:44,680
Speaker 2: three years, and like, I mean I get, I mean

606
00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:47,880
Speaker 2: maybe that's a bad example, but yeah, you haven't talked

607
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:50,800
Speaker 2: to your best friend and like I understand not like

608
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:53,960
Speaker 2: some of my best friends I haven't seen in years yeaheah,

609
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:56,800
Speaker 2: but I talked to them like a couple of times

610
00:30:56,800 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 2: a month. Like do not talk to your best friend

611
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 2: friend in three years? That's crazy? That's not your best friend, yes,

612
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 2: not your best friend. Yes, literal literal facts. Literal facts.

613
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:11,360
Speaker 2: But now we got some relevant comments. Republic of Gary says,

614
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:14,440
Speaker 2: I called her stupid and said that she wouldn't understand

615
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 2: it because she doesn't have any friends. This is quoting

616
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 2: op a a whole a whole move, called her stupid

617
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:23,160
Speaker 2: and said she doesn't have a friend's crazy. Well done, professor,

618
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 2: the commenter says. Video slacker says, apparently neither does he.

619
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:29,520
Speaker 2: If your best friend doesn't speak to you for three years,

620
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:32,800
Speaker 2: exactly are you an idiot yet?

621
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 1: Okay, this is all like, I feel like this is

622
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 1: coming together.

623
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh but oh poor p oh, It's okay. No, no,

624
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 2: I was spanking him from the beginning. Ah. They may

625
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:47,720
Speaker 2: be your best friend, but you are not theirs. Inside

626
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:50,400
Speaker 2: Sector forty three seventy seven says what led to your divorce?

627
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:53,200
Speaker 2: Did you cheat where there are problems that couldn't be solved?

628
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:55,720
Speaker 2: And how much longer after the divorce did you start

629
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:57,880
Speaker 2: dating your current wife and marriage or another important piece

630
00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:03,800
Speaker 2: of information? All right, now we're getting getting somewhere. All right,

631
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 2: let's freaking go. Basically, tell us what led to the

632
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:12,520
Speaker 2: divorce and marriage to your current wife, to which OPI responds,

633
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:17,040
Speaker 2: my ex wife found out about me sleeping with my

634
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:22,719
Speaker 2: current wife. No, shoot found out about me sleeping with

635
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 2: my current wife.

636
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:26,920
Speaker 1: No, dude, this guy, this guy is an a hole.

637
00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 1: Far for not telling the truth. Idiot, absolute No, No,

638
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:33,920
Speaker 1: he's not an idiot. He knows what he's doing. He

639
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:36,000
Speaker 1: knows what he's doing. What he's trying to gain sympathy

640
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 1: points on the internet. Yes, you're not getting sympathy, buddy.

641
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 1: I broke up with my current wife for my ex wife.

642
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:47,240
Speaker 1: This was initially so we could work things. I think Initially,

643
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:50,720
Speaker 1: after his ex wife caught hurt him cheating got.

644
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:53,360
Speaker 2: You, she decided she wanted a divorce a couple of

645
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 2: months later, even though I begged her to try with me.

646
00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:58,560
Speaker 2: So basically that was him trying to be like, okay,

647
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 2: let me do this out of respet. I tried to

648
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 2: make sure the divorce was easy as possible. I got

649
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 2: back together with my current wife while we were separated,

650
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 2: which to me, if I'm the wife and then the

651
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 2: best friend that ends up getting with my ex, I'm like,

652
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:17,479
Speaker 2: all right, this gumbag like only he only got rid

653
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 2: of the girl out of like desperation to try and

654
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 2: cling onto this relationship that he wants. But he just

655
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 2: runs right back to her, you know, no reflection. Fifty

656
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 2: four oh one says, So, if any of this is true,

657
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:31,960
Speaker 2: you at thirty two cheated on your wife with a

658
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:35,080
Speaker 2: twenty one year old with three kids, your divorce was

659
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:37,760
Speaker 2: not amicable. She just wanted you out of her life

660
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 2: as quickly and painlessly as possible.

661
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:43,760
Speaker 1: How do you say your divorce is amicable when you cheated,

662
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:45,480
Speaker 1: that's not amicable.

663
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:49,360
Speaker 2: He's saying. He I believe the way the way he

664
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 2: frames and sees it in his mind, she's like, oh,

665
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 2: he she gave me what I wanted. It was easy,

666
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 2: it was quick, it was simple. There wasn't there wasn't

667
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:59,240
Speaker 2: like fighting. But in reality she's just like, I'm just

668
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 2: gonna get through with it and get out of here. Yeah.

669
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:05,480
Speaker 2: But but to your point, he was like he was

670
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:08,120
Speaker 2: surprised that she didn't talk to him anymore, which is like, bruh,

671
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:13,320
Speaker 2: Obviously get a grip. Obviously get a grip. The fact

672
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:15,759
Speaker 2: she never replied to you even once after the vorce

673
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 2: was finalized wasn't a hint, Opie. I do really wish

674
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 2: that I found out that day and felt happy for them,

675
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 2: or at least felt nothing. I'm not responding to that comment. Yeah, yeah,

676
00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:31,880
Speaker 2: you're not. Yes, you're You're right. He's not. He's not

677
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:34,680
Speaker 2: responding to it. I buried a lot of feelings down

678
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:37,680
Speaker 2: when I married my current wife and they all came

679
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 2: flooding out. Are you kidding me? What is his? Sobstar?

680
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:42,920
Speaker 2: I don't feel bad for him. I miss my best friend.

681
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:45,000
Speaker 2: I missed my ex wife. I am so sorry I

682
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:47,239
Speaker 2: heard her. I love her. I never stopped loving her,

683
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:49,399
Speaker 2: and that scares me because I don't want to hurt

684
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 2: my wife. I know, I e ft up, dude, you

685
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:55,320
Speaker 2: effed up royally irredeemable.

686
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:57,959
Speaker 1: It's so crazy how much more information we just got,

687
00:34:58,239 --> 00:34:59,880
Speaker 1: Like that just changed.

688
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:03,279
Speaker 2: Which makes sense because he's a he's a he's both.

689
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 2: I would argue he's both an idiot and vindictive, which

690
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:09,359
Speaker 2: is a terrible combination. Devil got my eye, says, your

691
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 2: story made by day. It's nice to know that karma

692
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:16,399
Speaker 2: is doing its thing. Let's go ouch. But Sam, this

693
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 2: John is not over. Is there an update? My god?

694
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:25,240
Speaker 2: Is there one? Yeah? Is it thick? Is it juicy?

695
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:30,160
Speaker 2: It's juicy and it's two months later. Oh, this is

696
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 2: kind of an update to my last post a few

697
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:34,719
Speaker 2: months ago, and I'm also hoping for advice on how

698
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:37,239
Speaker 2: to best navigate this. I have tried a couple of

699
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:40,320
Speaker 2: times to write this update, but I get stressed trying

700
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 2: to make it all make sense, so I would just

701
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:44,040
Speaker 2: dump it all here and hope it comes out. Okay.

702
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:46,920
Speaker 2: I guess I should start by saying that I had

703
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:50,440
Speaker 2: slash have a lot more issues than my original post addressed,

704
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:53,840
Speaker 2: or that I even recognized at the time. Cheating's no

705
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 2: big deal, you know, I totally forgot. Yeah, they didn't

706
00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:58,840
Speaker 2: teach to be out in school? How was I supposed

707
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:02,360
Speaker 2: to know you're an No one knows you're right? You

708
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:04,720
Speaker 2: have to you have to be taught it through Reddit.

709
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:07,440
Speaker 2: I guess if reddit is the only way to know

710
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:09,840
Speaker 2: that cheating is bad, I didn't go to Reddit University.

711
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:11,279
Speaker 2: I am the a hole for that.

712
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:15,480
Speaker 1: We are your Reddit professors, and uh, let me tell

713
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 1: you this guy pat past, Yeah past, he did best.

714
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:22,440
Speaker 2: And it's time to read and learn. School is a session.

715
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:25,759
Speaker 2: Therapy is helping me uncover a lot of it, and

716
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:29,880
Speaker 2: it's really uncomfortable on the good days and crushing on

717
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:32,920
Speaker 2: the bad days, even though they don't tell you directly

718
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 2: what to do, doctor Riley. So many people talk about

719
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 2: how they feel so much better after going to therapy,

720
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:40,960
Speaker 2: but I feel worse.

721
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:43,319
Speaker 1: Sometimes you have to feel worse to feel better. Like

722
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 1: a Rubik's cube, you gotta make it more unsolved to

723
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:46,799
Speaker 1: actually solve it.

724
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:47,840
Speaker 2: No way.

725
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:51,440
Speaker 3: I've been thinking about that so much recently. I cannot

726
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:54,359
Speaker 3: believe you said that. I have actually been wanting to

727
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:56,839
Speaker 3: meet a podcast and you just did it.

728
00:36:56,840 --> 00:37:01,360
Speaker 2: Wow, here we are maybe my mind. I'm still going

729
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:04,040
Speaker 2: to go, though, because for as much as it sucks,

730
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:06,799
Speaker 2: it is helping me learn better ways of dealing with things.

731
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:09,799
Speaker 2: It is also helping me explain myself to me a

732
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:13,439
Speaker 2: little bit better explaining himself to himself, Like I am

733
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:16,240
Speaker 2: a crappy person, but I wasn't always a crappy person,

734
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 2: and I am starting to see where it all went wrong. Interesting.

735
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:22,279
Speaker 2: I feel like understanding that is the only way I

736
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:24,840
Speaker 2: can address those things and then become a better person.

737
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:28,880
Speaker 2: To very quickly sidebar. It does at least sound like

738
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:32,959
Speaker 2: op is on the journey of realizing, oh, I keep

739
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:37,800
Speaker 2: doing these fed up things and am at least pointed

740
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:40,880
Speaker 2: in the direction of betterment, which is what we want

741
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 2: for people who do bad things. Yes we do.

742
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:48,719
Speaker 1: I've seen no proof other than going to therapy that

743
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 1: he has done a good thing. That is true, but

744
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:52,319
Speaker 1: still going to therapy is a good thing.

745
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:57,320
Speaker 3: So self aggrousation though, I say.

746
00:37:57,239 --> 00:38:03,360
Speaker 1: That right, Yes, actual self aggilation is I think, dude,

747
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 1: this guy's they over here. There's a lot of syllables. Okay,

748
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:17,720
Speaker 1: it's right. Next, Tova sectimized. I'm so sorry, but miseconimized

749
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:19,080
Speaker 1: is amazing.

750
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:20,080
Speaker 3: Because you're a victim too.

751
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:30,160
Speaker 2: Wow, probably save here. And I'm gonna keep reading. I

752
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:33,640
Speaker 2: did in patient therapy. Then after my release, I see

753
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:35,759
Speaker 2: a therapist in her office once a week and meet

754
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 2: virtually once a week. I also see a psychiatrist every

755
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 2: two weeks and started on some medications. Oh, he's doing

756
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 2: full dosage here. It's weird how I can kind of

757
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:48,560
Speaker 2: see them helping parts of my brain but dueling other

758
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:52,440
Speaker 2: parts and making my body not feel the best doling

759
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:55,040
Speaker 2: it happens. I try to explain it to the doctor,

760
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:57,040
Speaker 2: but he just tells me that it's gonna take some

761
00:38:57,160 --> 00:39:00,160
Speaker 2: time for them to fully work, and then eventually I'll

762
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:00,719
Speaker 2: get used to it.

763
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:04,359
Speaker 1: I mean, that's most depression and anxiety meds, like a

764
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:07,000
Speaker 1: lot of it is a slow burned that's true.

765
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 2: That is very true. Boys and girls.

766
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:14,440
Speaker 1: Oh what my wife had the baby? I forgot. Slash

767
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:16,440
Speaker 1: didn't know she was pregnant.

768
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 2: The baby with his I believe his current younger wife yea,

769
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:23,120
Speaker 2: which is okay. So maybe they did get because they

770
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:23,960
Speaker 2: didn't talk about it.

771
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:28,760
Speaker 1: Yes, okay, now they were, yes, But while I was away,

772
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 1: she told me about the possibility of the baby not

773
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:38,879
Speaker 1: being mine. How you get him as Ayloza, that's right,

774
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:40,239
Speaker 1: that's right.

775
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:45,759
Speaker 4: She was she was willing to deal with a married man,

776
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:49,480
Speaker 4: and what did she do go out and run around

777
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 4: on her own married man.

778
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 2: Wow, dude, I don't know if Opie can take this blow.

779
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:59,319
Speaker 1: I think is is gonna be a final boss op

780
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:00,600
Speaker 1: He's gonna be her.

781
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:03,280
Speaker 2: But at least he has a therapist, now that is true.

782
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:07,239
Speaker 2: The whole team a mental health team at his disposal.

783
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:11,399
Speaker 2: I grieved that so much, but decided it it wasn't

784
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:14,280
Speaker 2: much good dwelling on it too much right now until

785
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:17,480
Speaker 2: we know for sure once she was born. The results

786
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 2: came back last week and she is not mine. The

787
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:29,480
Speaker 2: baby isn't his. Oh oh dude.

788
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:32,239
Speaker 3: Oh no, no, no, no, no no, no, turn around, turn around?

789
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:39,440
Speaker 2: Oh oh yeah. I was like turn around, Riley dude, like.

790
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:42,480
Speaker 3: Back seven, But but I hate to say it.

791
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:48,560
Speaker 2: Gba garba arma comes back. What goes around comes around. Also,

792
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:51,040
Speaker 2: don't think I missed your comment. Don't think I missed

793
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:53,040
Speaker 2: your comment. Okay, what do you say? That's for you,

794
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 2: me and all the viewers right now because the editor

795
00:40:55,560 --> 00:41:01,120
Speaker 2: kept that little bit in all right comment below. Backstabbing,

796
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:05,360
Speaker 2: Oh booty, booty stabbing, stabbing from the back stabbing in

797
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:09,799
Speaker 2: the back. Now we haven't made any decisions right now

798
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 2: about our relationship, but are living together for the sake

799
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:15,920
Speaker 2: of the kids and her recovery from having the baby.

800
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:18,120
Speaker 2: She said that if I didn't want to be with

801
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 2: her anymore, she'd go back to her home state with

802
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:23,960
Speaker 2: her mom and stepdad. She also mentioned that she knew

803
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 2: she wouldn't get alimony or child support because of our state.

804
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:30,320
Speaker 2: I guess the state doesn't allow child support. The baby's

805
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:33,920
Speaker 2: not his. He has no children with her, there's literally

806
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:36,080
Speaker 2: no children. Of course, there would not be child support.

807
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 2: But I told her I would help her get back

808
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 2: home and on her feet if that's what ended up happening,

809
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 2: which I would say is a commendable move, commendable for

810
00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:49,880
Speaker 2: a woman who she's a stay at home mom. She like,

811
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:52,040
Speaker 2: she cheated on him, so he's being very good.

812
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:55,960
Speaker 1: I also cheated so much so that she got pregnant

813
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:57,680
Speaker 1: with someone else's baby, like.

814
00:41:57,239 --> 00:42:01,839
Speaker 2: Like two times, most likely it's not just once. Yeah,

815
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:05,680
Speaker 2: and lied to him by not telling him for fear,

816
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 2: which she eventually realized. And I bet I bet she knew.

817
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:10,920
Speaker 2: I bet she knew for sure the whole time. Knew

818
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 2: what knew that the baby was not his. I bet.

819
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 2: I bet she was. I bet she was in her

820
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 2: deepest part of her soul.

821
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 1: Wasn't one hundred percent sure obviously, yeah, but was like,

822
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:26,480
Speaker 1: probably the child is the affair partner. I don't think

823
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:29,640
Speaker 1: you'd know that though, if you're having sex with two

824
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:32,799
Speaker 1: people equally, maybe it was an equal even though and

825
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:33,239
Speaker 1: I don't think.

826
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:35,759
Speaker 2: I don't know. Maybe maybe she was trying to have

827
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:38,000
Speaker 2: a kid with it. That's so crazy that she got, dude,

828
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:40,160
Speaker 2: as soon as she started getting pregnant, and then she

829
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:42,880
Speaker 2: was cheating. That's crazy. Anyway, Oh, maybe it was like,

830
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 2: that's maybe what's spurred it.

831
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 1: I see, like, I know I'm pregnant, let's try to

832
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:47,879
Speaker 1: get pregnant now.

833
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:50,839
Speaker 2: Oh I did not even think about that.

834
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:53,480
Speaker 1: I bet that's what you were thinking about. And I

835
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:55,400
Speaker 1: didn't think about that, and then I realized, oh, that's

836
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:57,239
Speaker 1: what you're thinking. So I started thinking it.

837
00:42:57,280 --> 00:43:00,279
Speaker 2: Dude, accidental discovery. Well, this is like the potato chip

838
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 2: of cheating potato chip. They discovered it by accident.

839
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:05,920
Speaker 3: Who love that, don't you?

840
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 2: So it was it was a cook and it was

841
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 2: a fancy restaurant in like the eighteen late eighty hundreds,

842
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:15,800
Speaker 2: and the cook sliced the fries too thin, and the

843
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:18,399
Speaker 2: people eating sent it back and they were like, oh,

844
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:22,200
Speaker 2: these these fries are way too thick, and so he's like, fine,

845
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 2: screw you, and he sliced them so thin that they

846
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:27,400
Speaker 2: were basically chips. And then they were like, we actually

847
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 2: love this dish. And then they made it like a

848
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:33,760
Speaker 2: staple at their restaurant, and then it became a thing. Whoa,

849
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:36,880
Speaker 2: that's the that's the legend. That's the potato chip is

850
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:39,200
Speaker 2: a great invention. It is an incredible invent. I mean,

851
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:41,960
Speaker 2: it's one of the potato chips are universal.

852
00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:43,959
Speaker 3: America was founded on.

853
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:48,560
Speaker 2: Pot and we just founded the potato chip of cheating.

854
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 2: We did by accident. Well there you go. Accidental genuses. Yeah, yes,

855
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:56,640
Speaker 2: I'm claiming it.

856
00:43:57,160 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 1: So since I got back home, I've stepped up more

857
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:02,680
Speaker 1: and have been active as a dad, which has been really.

858
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:02,880
Speaker 2: Good for me.

859
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:06,759
Speaker 3: Are you are you really a dad?

860
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:09,000
Speaker 2: If he has no children, you have no children?

861
00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 1: Stepdad?

862
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:11,640
Speaker 2: He's a step dad. He's step dad. He's a step

863
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:18,480
Speaker 2: fair enough, fair enough, right, bro is just like about

864
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:20,440
Speaker 2: to die. He's on life support right now. Yeah, man

865
00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:23,479
Speaker 2: is hurt. Oh my gosh, being irresponsible and present father

866
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:26,240
Speaker 2: helps me forget about all the other stuff in the moments.

867
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:28,040
Speaker 2: But it would be a lie for me to say

868
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:30,880
Speaker 2: that I don't worry about how much it'll hurt to

869
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:33,200
Speaker 2: lose them if we break up, since they are not

870
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:37,400
Speaker 2: biologically or legally mine. I also just worry about them

871
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:40,240
Speaker 2: a lot and think they deserve to have a safe, stable,

872
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:43,960
Speaker 2: happy childhood. I'm really sad that the baby isn't mine.

873
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:46,480
Speaker 2: I wanted her to be mine more than anything in

874
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 2: the world. But I find it really hard to be

875
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 2: angry with my wife. For some reason, I cheated on

876
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 2: my first wife with her, so.

877
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:57,759
Speaker 1: It's kind of karma in a way, kind of and

878
00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 1: what could I really expect when our relations started the

879
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:05,040
Speaker 1: way that it did. I like that op is finally

880
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:05,719
Speaker 1: being self.

881
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:10,399
Speaker 2: Aware, finally figuring it out. Plus there's this other part

882
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 2: of me that understands that she is a deeply damaged

883
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:15,920
Speaker 2: person like me. I don't really want to go into

884
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:18,080
Speaker 2: a lot of details, but we both lived through some

885
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:20,759
Speaker 2: similar crap happening to us when we were kids that

886
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 2: bonded us. Trauma bond. Neither of us really dealt with it,

887
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:27,279
Speaker 2: but I thought that I was okay because I grew

888
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:31,640
Speaker 2: up privileged, and she didn't trauma bond. It isn't a song,

889
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:35,239
Speaker 2: oh is it? Yes, new kind of song? Now we

890
00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:37,799
Speaker 2: got a trauma bond. But da da da da da

891
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:39,839
Speaker 2: da da da da da da da da don no, no,

892
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 2: no no, can't imagine it this way. Mistake Anyways, So

893
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:49,520
Speaker 2: I always had more opportunities than she did. I also

894
00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:51,919
Speaker 2: thought that since I didn't think about it as much,

895
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 2: I was okay. She thought about it all the time

896
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:58,600
Speaker 2: and she was not okay. So because I was rich,

897
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 2: I was good to go. But she was a poor,

898
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:04,880
Speaker 2: a poor, a poor who can't handle the truth. My

899
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:07,279
Speaker 2: ex wife is an amazing woman and she deserves to

900
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:09,399
Speaker 2: be happy. I sent her an email and just kind

901
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:11,879
Speaker 2: of poured my heart out about how sorry I am

902
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:14,120
Speaker 2: for hurting her. I would rip my heart out to

903
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:16,000
Speaker 2: give it to her if it helped her heal from

904
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:18,760
Speaker 2: the heartbreak I caused her. I said in the email

905
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:20,840
Speaker 2: that I didn't expect to reply and that I would

906
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:24,720
Speaker 2: never attempt to contact her again after that super quick

907
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:27,800
Speaker 2: right move or not chat, right move or not?

908
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:31,440
Speaker 1: It sounds right move like he is, you know. It

909
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:33,759
Speaker 1: sounds like a cry for help, like a final cry

910
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:36,799
Speaker 1: for out mmmm, Yeah, she's worried about him.

911
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:40,319
Speaker 2: I do kind of like the move, but maybe a

912
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:44,000
Speaker 2: little further in his journey of healing.

913
00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:46,960
Speaker 1: Perhaps, Yeah, I feel like this is too raw.

914
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:50,440
Speaker 2: Marinatea you know, like really really feel it and make

915
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:51,960
Speaker 2: sure it's the right to sign and the right decision.

916
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:54,600
Speaker 2: She got in contact with my brother a few times

917
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:56,840
Speaker 2: to check on me, and she's called me twice and

918
00:46:56,880 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 2: we've talked for a few hours about everything. She's really

919
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:02,279
Speaker 2: happy and she's doing well. I'm proud of her, and

920
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:04,640
Speaker 2: she deserves to be happy. I am really lucky that

921
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:06,839
Speaker 2: I had the years I had with her, but now

922
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:09,600
Speaker 2: it's time to accept how I screwed up and try

923
00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:12,640
Speaker 2: my best to do better going forward. I don't think

924
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 2: I will ever contact her again, but would be happy

925
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:18,080
Speaker 2: to hear from her if she ever reaches out again.

926
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:21,040
Speaker 2: It still hurts a little, but I understand now that

927
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:24,319
Speaker 2: that door is fully closed. Pretty good, pretty good, But

928
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 2: we'll see. There's more. The door with my friend is closed,

929
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:31,040
Speaker 2: too good. We haven't spoken and we probably never will,

930
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:34,080
Speaker 2: but that's okay. I found out from other friends that

931
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:35,839
Speaker 2: he that he was always in love with my ex

932
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:38,560
Speaker 2: wife and that he was the person who convinced her

933
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:42,040
Speaker 2: to move to where they live now after our divorce.

934
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:45,360
Speaker 2: I think knowing helps because the story I created in

935
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:49,160
Speaker 2: my head was far worse. I also understand now why

936
00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 2: no one wanted to tell me. My brother and I

937
00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:55,240
Speaker 2: got so close again, which his wife isn't the happiest about.

938
00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:57,560
Speaker 2: I am not sure where I would be right now

939
00:47:57,600 --> 00:47:59,839
Speaker 2: if it wasn't for him. We invited them over during

940
00:47:59,880 --> 00:48:02,000
Speaker 2: the weekend and at one point she and I were

941
00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:04,000
Speaker 2: in a room alone for a few minutes and I

942
00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:06,400
Speaker 2: told her that I was sorry, and she just hugged

943
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:09,120
Speaker 2: me and told me that I was stupid, but she

944
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 2: knows that I'm trying. That's kind of hilarious. It's cute.

945
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:15,919
Speaker 2: I also have two really good friends who have been there,

946
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:19,160
Speaker 2: who have been there for me through everything, even though

947
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:21,440
Speaker 2: they have been clear from the very beginning that they

948
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:24,279
Speaker 2: have not agreed with my actions. All of them are

949
00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:26,920
Speaker 2: more than I deserve. Yeah, and he talked to them

950
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:29,680
Speaker 2: three years ago. That's where the doors closed. Uh.

951
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:36,279
Speaker 1: I see this guy, Sam mcdona with the jokes.

952
00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:39,160
Speaker 2: My relationship with my parents isn't in the best place

953
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:41,640
Speaker 2: right now. They are both really mad at me because

954
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:45,080
Speaker 2: my brother confronted them about what I told him related

955
00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:46,759
Speaker 2: to the thing that happened when I was a kid,

956
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 2: So basically we can infer there was a traumatic experience

957
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:53,360
Speaker 2: he had, maybe caused by his parents or his parents

958
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 2: were aware of. They feel like this is blaming them

959
00:48:56,920 --> 00:48:58,759
Speaker 2: and that they did the best they could for me.

960
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:01,759
Speaker 2: I think that they are really embarrassed too. I get it,

961
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:04,040
Speaker 2: and I don't really blame them. I don't think they

962
00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:06,440
Speaker 2: knew what to do. But I'm not going to apologize

963
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:08,919
Speaker 2: to them either, so until I do, they really don't

964
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:11,160
Speaker 2: want to be around me. I'm not sure that this

965
00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:13,120
Speaker 2: is the update that anyone wanted to read, but it's

966
00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:15,600
Speaker 2: all I've got. My life is still very much in limbo,

967
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:18,840
Speaker 2: maybe even shambles, but I am doing my best to

968
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:20,799
Speaker 2: fix it and to fix some of the hurts I

969
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:23,719
Speaker 2: have caused others. I would recommend therapy as much as

970
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:26,640
Speaker 2: everyone recommended it to me, but I would caution to

971
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:29,240
Speaker 2: add that it requires a lot of honesty to work,

972
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 2: and sometimes that kind of honesty reopens old wounds. But

973
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:36,239
Speaker 2: those wounds are dirty, infected, so you've got to clean

974
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:38,719
Speaker 2: them up and treat them to get better, which is

975
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:41,840
Speaker 2: going to hurt, but I am not sure there is

976
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:43,880
Speaker 2: any other way. And ladies and gentlemen, we are going

977
00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:46,399
Speaker 2: to close out with some relevant comments here. First one

978
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:49,440
Speaker 2: coming from Figuring it Out eight to ninety Who says, oof,

979
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:53,160
Speaker 2: So you cheated on your first wife with your second wife?

980
00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:56,120
Speaker 2: Why if you loved your first wife so much? How

981
00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:58,080
Speaker 2: was how long was the affair and how did she

982
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:01,719
Speaker 2: your ex your first wife find out? I don't know

983
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:04,879
Speaker 2: about your current wife being a mistress turned wife isn't

984
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:08,280
Speaker 2: exactly any more high ground to stand on. It sounds

985
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:10,279
Speaker 2: like you both are a mess, and the fact that

986
00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:13,160
Speaker 2: she seemed to still be sleeping around has got to

987
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:16,439
Speaker 2: give you a pause. Marriages that start from affairs very

988
00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:18,919
Speaker 2: rarely make it. Are you sure it wouldn't be better

989
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:22,440
Speaker 2: to just walk away and start clean and lup for sale?

990
00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:26,439
Speaker 2: No refund? Says the current wife had two kids when

991
00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:29,799
Speaker 2: they met. She also was in a relationship with another man,

992
00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:32,920
Speaker 2: so they were both cheating with each other. She had

993
00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:35,960
Speaker 2: a third kid while they were enjoying their affairs. I

994
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:37,080
Speaker 2: didn't even put that together.

995
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:39,760
Speaker 1: So while they were having the affair, she was literally

996
00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:43,080
Speaker 1: pregnant and about to have the third child, And apparently

997
00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:46,640
Speaker 1: it was in question whether the dad was her ex

998
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:48,720
Speaker 1: or the married coworker she was effing.

999
00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:53,319
Speaker 2: And now the fourth kid has been born mess in

1000
00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:59,439
Speaker 2: the same situation. Wow wow, wow wow MESSI pooh, Well,

1001
00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:00,000
Speaker 2: that was a lot.

1002
00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:03,680
Speaker 1: I'm glad that we finally got some clarity on what

1003
00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:07,440
Speaker 1: Opie was actually doing. He really kept saying there he

1004
00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:11,200
Speaker 1: was buttoning it all up, making this shit sandwich look

1005
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:15,640
Speaker 1: like a nice extra SLAMI with extra meat.

1006
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:19,959
Speaker 2: I have to ask the comments and you, Sam, has

1007
00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:22,399
Speaker 2: Opie truly turned a leaf here?

1008
00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:27,000
Speaker 1: It feels like Opie has been doing better for himself

1009
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:29,239
Speaker 1: and other so I think, yes, he's on.

1010
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:31,400
Speaker 2: The path, but betterment on the path, I would say.

1011
00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:34,120
Speaker 2: I'm obviously not one hundred percent sure, but from what

1012
00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:38,080
Speaker 2: I can like infer it does seem like he is

1013
00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:42,480
Speaker 2: and he is seeing the error of his ways. Dude, Riley,

1014
00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:45,640
Speaker 2: Riley is going hard on the Yon cam today. I'm

1015
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:51,719
Speaker 2: happy to see Opie turned around. Me too, me too.

1016
00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:53,319
Speaker 2: We love it. We love to see it. We do

1017
00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:53,920
Speaker 2: love to see it.

1018
00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:55,520
Speaker 3: You know what I want you guys to do them

1019
00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:58,480
Speaker 3: talk to me, read me another story.

1020
00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:00,200
Speaker 2: Woo ook