1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:19,119 Speaker 1: M h flute force. If it doesn't work, you're just 2 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:24,919 Speaker 1: not using enough. You're listening to software, radio, Special operations, 3 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 1: military nails and straight talk with the guys in the community. 4 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 1: Welcome everyone to stop for radio. I'm litor in Chief 5 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:47,600 Speaker 1: Sean Spens and gentlemen sitting to my right. For most 6 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 1: of you will need no introduction whatsoever. Of course, we're 7 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 1: joining about Ryan Zicky. Ryan Hales from Husman, Montana, joined 8 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:57,639 Speaker 1: the United States Navies Asterday night gener the SIPs we're 9 00:00:57,680 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 1: giving me the seal. I'm at a long pre Navey Seals, 10 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 1: the bachelor's degree in geology as I understanding, and from 11 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 1: University of Oregon, two master's degrees, one in global management 12 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 1: and the other in business and ministraction. And from until 13 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 1: it looks like two thousand and eight, retired as commander 14 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 1: in the Navy Seals. You were in a command position 15 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:22,759 Speaker 1: that Sealt one, and also in a command position at 16 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 1: Steen six. You were at a certain Naval Special Worker 17 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 1: Unit number two. I GUESSID Brandon Webb was there there, 18 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 1: and you at one point where the acting command for 19 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:36,040 Speaker 1: Special Operations Forces in Iraq as well put them off 20 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 1: a lot on your shoulders. Ryan ran for office. I 21 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 1: was a state senator in Montana, where you two chins 22 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 1: in Union, did a term for your terrible years, and 23 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 1: then ran for Congress. Won two elections to Congress. We 24 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 1: started with twenty four teams and the first and then 25 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 1: two years as the Secretary of the Interior, I did 26 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 1: a command to a secretary and cheery. It's been all 27 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 1: over the place. It takes your five minutes to tell 28 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 1: everybody what you've done, just in a lot twenty five 29 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 1: years ago. Live. So now you're running again in Montana's 30 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 1: first congression. There's like now Montense populations picking up to 31 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 1: win now they actually have congression districts are supposed to 32 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 1: have a second sea. Yeah, congratulations, And that election happens 33 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 1: in November. You stand a pretty good chance, you know. 34 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 1: And in the last election, Montana broke for President Trump 35 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 1: at like sixteen plus points. I think it's born in 36 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:26,360 Speaker 1: and you swept down the puth Republicans Annilia of the 37 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 1: Democrat Party in that state. So it looks like you're 38 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 1: gonna have a pretty pretty clear road to go. Well 39 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 1: in the new districts, Montana was divided east and west. 40 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 1: The western district I would categorize as competitive. Okay, you know, 41 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 1: looking at the numbers, I won that district. President Trump 42 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:47,919 Speaker 1: barely won the district. But Tester Senator Tester also in 43 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:50,639 Speaker 1: the district. So I would say it's mixed. A good, 44 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 1: good candidate, a good message, you can win. But it 45 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:56,920 Speaker 1: is a bubble. I mean, I mean it can go 46 00:02:57,040 --> 00:03:00,920 Speaker 1: either way. In this election. Their tends to be I 47 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 1: think people call it a red wave. I would caution 48 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:06,079 Speaker 1: people to say it's in the bag. I think he 49 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 1: had to earn every yard in politics. In politics is 50 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 1: pretty thickle, can change really quick. And you have an 51 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:14,640 Speaker 1: unusual electorate in Montana. When I look at the voting roles, 52 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 1: I see publicans. Obviously, I bring Democrats, and then you 53 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 1: have a population of independence. But then you have a 54 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:23,640 Speaker 1: most equally sized number of people that ptify as mother 55 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 1: about that. Democrats they're not independence. There are others and 56 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 1: what's the other. Well in Montana, I would categorize Montana 57 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 1: as a little libertarian. I'm not liberal, but we just 58 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 1: don't like to be told what to do. Right. There's 59 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 1: a very patriotic you know, some of the strongholds of 60 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 1: traditional Democrats Bete Montana as well beaute is the home 61 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 1: of Miners Union number one. But also when the national 62 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 1: anthem plays, mute stands. So they are what I would 63 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 1: consider a Reagan Democrat, very patriotic. They're not a woke Democrats. 64 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 1: I don't like the wolf movement anymore. And the rest 65 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 1: of us, the Montana is very patriotic and a hind 66 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 1: number of military. We have the Great Tribes, all the 67 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 1: plans the warrior tribes in Montana had a population just 68 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 1: over a million, would be interesting, I think to our 69 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:17,840 Speaker 1: own Since Montana is like sort of the frontier country 70 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 1: of the United States Ville, what are the issues that 71 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:22,920 Speaker 1: mattered the most to Montala. You're a big state for agriculture, 72 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 1: for four stream number mining and energy production. So you 73 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:30,039 Speaker 1: guys are the resources. Over the period it has taken 74 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:34,160 Speaker 1: some strain. We should be logging more than we are, 75 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 1: especially the scale of fires. Montana tourism has expanded, you know, 76 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 1: you can see that the branding of Montana with the 77 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 1: yellows though. But I think the issue is inflation is 78 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 1: a big issue, and the distances between towns or or 79 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 1: along when gas prices go up, it challenges Montana as 80 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:56,720 Speaker 1: far as the wage pretty low, so when you have 81 00:04:57,000 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 1: inflation that's what it is when groceries that takes a 82 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:04,040 Speaker 1: lot of disupposable income, you know, out, especially for those 83 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 1: that probably are vulnerable. It seems to be the strain. 84 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 1: It is more on the population that probably needs help 85 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:14,839 Speaker 1: with lost How do montament or the gas electric a 86 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 1: little mixed natural gas electric a lot choose to heat 87 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 1: their home by firewood? Yeah? What do you guys have? 88 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 1: Some of the highest energy bills coming from utility come 89 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 1: just because the winner so long, because some of the 90 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:29,160 Speaker 1: highest winners are elevated, and this winner is gonna be 91 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:32,719 Speaker 1: a challenge because gas prices are so much higher. And 92 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:36,160 Speaker 1: then what happens is sometimes the government will step in 93 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 1: and will subsidize those families that can't afford to heat, 94 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 1: you know. And what that does is takes tax dollars 95 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 1: rather going to something else. It's subsidizes. At the core 96 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:50,239 Speaker 1: of it, the subjects wouldn't be required if the policy 97 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 1: is the US on energy were correct. You want to 98 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 1: go back during the Trump administration mode Secretary of Interior, 99 00:05:56,680 --> 00:06:01,040 Speaker 1: I mean, gas was considerably lower, and that gas considerably lower, 100 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 1: inflation was with no one even talked about inflation, right, 101 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:09,480 Speaker 1: and then Montana, like many states, has a challenge with 102 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:13,479 Speaker 1: the workforce, who can't find enough people who work. Some 103 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 1: of it has been you can't to deciety to be 104 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 1: word people not to work. Anything. That pipeline affected you 105 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 1: guys that are toothing that, well, it's it's certainly affected 106 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:26,479 Speaker 1: the country Montana a little would have been nice to 107 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 1: have an on ramp. And look, moving fuels is so 108 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:35,160 Speaker 1: much safer through a pipeline. And unfortunately the Keystone became 109 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 1: kind of a flagship for the environmental attacks there are 110 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 1: between Canada and the United States. There are dozens of 111 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 1: pipelines and there's actually a keystone of what the issue was, 112 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 1: Keystone Excel, but became a poster child for attacks. And 113 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:56,839 Speaker 1: it's too bad because again, moving fuels through pipelines is 114 00:06:57,040 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 1: far more safe. So and you're in a g INDEPENDI 115 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:02,840 Speaker 1: scot you look to see the United States returned to 116 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 1: being an energy producing energy surplus country is opposed to woman. Yeah, 117 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 1: and there's three reasons why energy is so important. Number 118 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 1: one environmentally, I canna tell you it is better, but 119 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 1: its energy in this country under our regulation. Then watch 120 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 1: you get produced overseas with no regulation. Pl blade me, 121 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 1: I'll taking out tour or Saudi Arabia or Africa, how 122 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 1: they produce Oh no, I believe you've seen pictures of 123 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 1: the minds in China, whether people uh rare earth minerals 124 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 1: to make solar pedals within it. You know, it looks 125 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 1: like a meteor as long as you ignore it, you 126 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 1: know you don't think about it, but but you should 127 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 1: take it in consideration. And secondly, you know I spent 128 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 1: most of my career fighting overseas, you know, for other 129 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 1: people's energy. And I can tell you I don't want 130 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 1: your children, my grandchildren ever to see what I've seen. 131 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 1: And I don't want to be held hostage by a 132 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 1: foreign entity on our energy needs. And lastly, you know, 133 00:07:57,080 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 1: jobs in manufacturing matter. Sure what happened in COVID and 134 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 1: supply chain. We find ourselves vulnerable because we weren't producing 135 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:07,679 Speaker 1: medical equipment. We weren't producing a lot of the parts 136 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 1: and components to make our economy run in in order 137 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 1: to manufacture. You know, the cost to steal is the 138 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 1: same in South Korea as it is in Pittsburgh. We 139 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 1: can't pay the same wages China India can. On the 140 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 1: advantage side is innovation in the US as long as 141 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 1: the regulatory environment allows for innovation and lastly as energy costs. 142 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 1: When energy costs are low, we could compete globally by 143 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 1: manufacturing and then we're not held hostage on the supply 144 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:42,840 Speaker 1: chain nor energy. So I'm a huge proponent of energy dominance. 145 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 1: I mean that we should never be in a position 146 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 1: where we're held hostage for energy. And again we do 147 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 1: it cleaner, better, and we will continue to advance technology, 148 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 1: invest in cleaner fuels, and invest in technology. It's really 149 00:08:56,080 --> 00:09:00,040 Speaker 1: just a connection unit between low energy prices, effect and 150 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 1: positively U sx mons. But the customer goods are less 151 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 1: of energy, places for production to transpretation of law and 152 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 1: right well and big push for annewables. But all energy 153 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 1: has a cost in terms of impact. You look at 154 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 1: winds chops up a lot of birds and also you 155 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 1: know wind itself, but when you replace the blades, there's 156 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 1: a lot of components. Mining solar is interesting. I've always 157 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 1: had the best place for solo sols on the roof 158 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 1: of the house because it's already foul ground. But the 159 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 1: Biden administration is talking. You know, these huge solar farms 160 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 1: of five D plus square miles on public land, and 161 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 1: when you do that what happens is that land then 162 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:46,959 Speaker 1: becomes single use. You're not gonna have it for recreation, 163 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:51,359 Speaker 1: there's not gonna have any habitat. So both wildlife, habitat 164 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 1: recreation access all come to a screeching halt when it 165 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 1: becomes a solar field. And is that really the best use? 166 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:01,960 Speaker 1: Is that really the best use when there's other alternatives 167 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 1: for a clean fuel? Again, you know, you look at 168 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 1: when you fly over lost vegs. You are the shot 169 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 1: you and the expanse of the homes. Someday someone's gonna 170 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:15,679 Speaker 1: figure out that the square footage availability on the rooftops 171 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 1: or gets significantly And if you can combine it and 172 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 1: you collect it and put it in a system, and 173 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 1: I think that's a much better path than chewing up 174 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 1: public land where no longer it is accessible or you 175 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:30,320 Speaker 1: can use it well. When you build these gigantic solar 176 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:33,439 Speaker 1: panel farms, so to speak, you have any loss and 177 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 1: you promis standing that energy to the end user. Whereas 178 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:41,680 Speaker 1: if if you've got maybe comes from the solar panel 179 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 1: to the end user in an industrial residential nation, but 180 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:48,200 Speaker 1: if it's run on top of your house's virtually all yeah, 181 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 1: and none of it's wasted. It all comes right down 182 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 1: from your roof and goes into your own boundaries and 183 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:55,960 Speaker 1: that ground is again fouled. And you know, we're looking 184 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 1: at sola cells that match tiles. If we're you know, 185 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:02,679 Speaker 1: good vision field. Did you have a tipping to blink? Though? 186 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 1: With solar panels, I mean they usually wear earth metals, 187 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:09,560 Speaker 1: which means they're rare. And if you're by China and 188 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:12,199 Speaker 1: from China, so you're really hating them. Kind of a 189 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 1: strategic commodity, almost like oil with the sunies to to 190 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:17,200 Speaker 1: put it on our network hanging. And it goes back 191 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 1: to every energy source has a component of impact. Nuclear 192 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 1: it tends to be the cleanest at zero. But you 193 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 1: know the last administration that we spent billions of dollars 194 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 1: putting a national repository for a nuclear fuel, and then 195 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:37,560 Speaker 1: at the last minute, when it's built and all gone, 196 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 1: the government turned to say no, Well, I think I 197 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 1: understand the French, for example, upper nucle directors all over 198 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 1: their countries, they handle their nuclear waste fuel differently than 199 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 1: we did. We take the uranium with the joining it 200 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 1: all that treated as one mask. They just separate out 201 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 1: the pretonium and the higher is a tube stuff and 202 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 1: apparently all the waste from the nuclear program could fit 203 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:00,080 Speaker 1: in about a ten thousand of scols were build it. 204 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:02,120 Speaker 1: That can put it all in one place where we're 205 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:04,679 Speaker 1: we're putting uranium in there too. It's to me seems 206 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 1: like that's crazy because it's in everything. Well, I think 207 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:09,719 Speaker 1: this person, Yeah, I think we can learn. Obviously, the 208 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 1: technology is advancing in the nuclear field too. Yeah, the 209 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:18,080 Speaker 1: luclear reactors are much smaller, but with the right regulatory environment, 210 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 1: right safety. I'm a large, huge component of nuclear and 211 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 1: the rights natural gas, clean burning. Yes. Um, I also 212 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 1: got to talk about a grid and vulnerability. When you 213 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 1: move to a system of solar cells, you know your 214 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:35,880 Speaker 1: baseload goes up and down. So the energy component, I 215 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:38,720 Speaker 1: think that the Trump administration the American first policy and 216 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 1: energy that was the correct policy of this country. Now 217 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 1: you men were suffering from a deviation of that today. 218 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 1: I think you're running because under the Trumper's administration's positively 219 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:50,840 Speaker 1: also saw the way that affected the economy, that the 220 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 1: economy vastly increased in terms of expansion its eye and 221 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:58,679 Speaker 1: we wrought down this go too and emissions because the 222 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 1: US does it better than anyone else the most efficient 223 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 1: lookers on the planet. Cleaner fuels or refineries are better 224 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:08,319 Speaker 1: across the board. And you know that aside, there are 225 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:11,840 Speaker 1: other issues in the environment that are probably equally importantly. 226 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 1: You don't hear about plastics, for instance, Like you look 227 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 1: at China. Nine percent of the plastics that are being 228 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 1: dumped into the ocean comes from four rivers in China. 229 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 1: And so those companies that insist on manufacturing in China, 230 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 1: I think they should look at putting a you know, 231 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:31,360 Speaker 1: some sort of mechanism where hey, if you plue then 232 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 1: what about that? What about and you're paying child weightings 233 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 1: and you're operating in a country with no pollution controls, 234 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:41,680 Speaker 1: and yet you were doing enorms damage to the world 235 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:43,960 Speaker 1: and the planet and their oceans as a result of 236 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 1: your actions and your choices the manufacture. They're under no 237 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 1: pollution control. Right, we can limitate every plastic bottom the 238 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:53,320 Speaker 1: whole country and probably have nothing would be effective because 239 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:55,679 Speaker 1: the most of the pollutions coming from Asia and Africa. 240 00:13:57,679 --> 00:13:59,959 Speaker 1: Of the plastics a big number, that's a lot number, 241 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 1: that's huge. You know, we need to protect our environment. 242 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 1: In Montana, forest fires are a big issue because we 243 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 1: haven't had management practices on much of our public lands, 244 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:16,520 Speaker 1: limiting public access, shutting down roads, down the opportunity for 245 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 1: recreation of public lands and public lands belonged to everybody. 246 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, does that resistance to sensible 247 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 1: land management for wildfire renigation, public use of public lands 248 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 1: for recreation? Is that something that comes from inside state 249 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 1: in terms of our positions and externally, you know a 250 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:37,840 Speaker 1: lot of it is driven from outside the state. Money 251 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 1: comes in. They have have a movement. These are people 252 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 1: that generally don't home the land. They don't they the 253 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 1: best stewards to land, oftentimes are those that land ranch 254 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 1: and use the land recreation. We're facing the generation that 255 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 1: doesn't have the connection the public lands because when you 256 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 1: start shutting down access, uh and and they said, well, 257 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 1: I ever can walk in? Well, not everyone can walk in. 258 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 1: You have elderly that that are not quite as young 259 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 1: or mobile as it used to be. Children, they have children, 260 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 1: You have disabled and so access and you have weather 261 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 1: leads and learning learning about the respect of land stewardship 262 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 1: on forest fires, having prescribed burns late in the season, 263 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 1: removing the dead and dying trees, and sustainable yields on 264 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 1: timber and if the tree dies and rots, it releases carbon. 265 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 1: Do you do use it as a two by four? 266 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 1: You capture that, So it's gonna be better to capture 267 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 1: the carbon. You're using two black fours where then find 268 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 1: it from at elevated prices and being held hostage from 269 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 1: other sources. And if you're so concerned about their pollution, 270 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 1: why don't you what you're concerned about the giant clouds 271 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 1: of er or two and was coming down there. Do 272 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 1: you think the government owns too much public land that 273 00:15:57,240 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 1: they could do a better job if they shrim the 274 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 1: because you did some of that when you were plan 275 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 1: better managed we we I'm not a believer in transferring 276 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 1: or selling public land, so we didn't really transfer out 277 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 1: of the public to the state. Say, well, it's more 278 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 1: about management, you know public land, especially Montana. We live 279 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 1: in a state that offers a legacy primarily from Teddy 280 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 1: Rose Belt, and public land is cherished because it is 281 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 1: used for recreation, is used for multiple use. Then Montana 282 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 1: and the country is better served of having public land. 283 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 1: Having said that, you also have a responsibility to management, 284 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:40,240 Speaker 1: and sometimes when you for instance, the monuments, and a 285 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 1: brief background is the monuments, the authority for a president 286 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 1: to proclaim a monument comes in an Antiquities Act and 287 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 1: the three things you haven't some objects to protect has 288 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 1: to be in federal land and the smallest area compatible 289 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 1: protect the object. So when we did the monument we view, 290 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 1: there wasn't one square inch of land that went out 291 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 1: of public domain. But when you do a monument, you 292 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:09,639 Speaker 1: manage it affording this proclamation and in some cases like 293 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:12,720 Speaker 1: Bears Airs, what it did is it took it put 294 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:19,399 Speaker 1: at risk traditional uses like hunting, fising, cattle, just you know, 295 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:23,359 Speaker 1: forced production. It took that off the table. And also 296 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:25,800 Speaker 1: you did it without coordinating to the state, which just 297 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 1: or and it was done by an executive action in Washington, 298 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 1: d C older the wishes and desires of the state 299 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:36,119 Speaker 1: of Utah in the case of the Bears Ears in 300 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:39,359 Speaker 1: case of Montana. How oftentimes the states and local communities 301 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:42,240 Speaker 1: they don't even say. And I think this is part 302 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 1: of why government in d C is not trusted. I mean, 303 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 1: tell me what agency, division, department has the full trust 304 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 1: and confidence of the American people. I know what it is. 305 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:57,919 Speaker 1: It's the U S. Board of Geographic Nues. Well, it 306 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:01,159 Speaker 1: could be, except they have occasionally in this probably a guy. 307 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 1: They're the ones that were actually running the whole country. 308 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:05,880 Speaker 1: We just don't even know it. Even our military check 309 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 1: hits over Afghanistan and their force did a great job. 310 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 1: Problem wow, moving those guys out of there. That was 311 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 1: a logistical miracle. Almost now obviously left the wrong way, 312 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 1: but well, I thought military commanded a fantastic job. Yeah, 313 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:26,440 Speaker 1: because they're the military. US super as a nation and 314 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:30,920 Speaker 1: as a directive, we left US citizens simillion leadership with 315 00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 1: the point where were not only left US citizens, we 316 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:38,720 Speaker 1: well did the gates shot in Kabul and willingly and 317 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:43,359 Speaker 1: knowingly left US civilians outside the priver defending from themselves 318 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 1: against the Taliban that's not in dispute. And then they 319 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 1: didn't tell us the truth. A bottles everybody's out once. 320 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:52,159 Speaker 1: And this is a problem, is that no one trusts 321 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 1: the government because there doesn't seem to be a dialogue 322 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 1: of truth, but there's just there seems to be a 323 00:18:57,800 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 1: propaganda message. You get handled and that are hold yep 324 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:05,439 Speaker 1: and vaccinations or climate change. If you're not marching in 325 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 1: line with what is said, then you get harassed. In 326 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:11,720 Speaker 1: some cases, you lose your livelihood, you lose your job. 327 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:15,360 Speaker 1: This is a This is a significant issue in our country, 328 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:18,919 Speaker 1: not guess Montana, because what where we're seeing as a 329 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 1: coordinated approach between social media, which primarily comes emanates from 330 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 1: San Francisco, you had a government arm and if you're 331 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 1: not in line with those two Twitter banned me, well, 332 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:33,640 Speaker 1: well for something I wrote about Jack Torst, like I'm 333 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:37,919 Speaker 1: perfectly banned from Twitter that I understand, you know, protecting 334 00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:42,360 Speaker 1: from terrorism, protecting from you shouldn't be able to assemble 335 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 1: a nuclear warhead from the Internet, and you should not 336 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 1: use that platform to do harm to the US interests 337 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:53,320 Speaker 1: and our allies. But also we need to have an 338 00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 1: open and fair discussion of the issues the way that 339 00:19:57,280 --> 00:20:00,639 Speaker 1: both the benefits and the risks, and and they're not 340 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:03,240 Speaker 1: very good referees of that. They should be standing in 341 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:05,120 Speaker 1: the middle saying you're not allowed to say that. That's 342 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:07,359 Speaker 1: really not up to them. And I would imagine you 343 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 1: on the energy or the information environment we live in today. 344 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 1: We'll see where the regulatory framework goes. But protection and 345 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 1: free speech, well, that's that would be in the constitution. 346 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:24,919 Speaker 1: It's gotta askworth fight. Absolutely well, we should have free speech. 347 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 1: We had free and open debate and in and Las Vegas. 348 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 1: Second Amendment. Second Amendment protects the first Yeah, we could 349 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 1: have just about bumped the Germans with all the stuff 350 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:37,239 Speaker 1: that's here, right, Yeah, because I fought World War two. 351 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:40,760 Speaker 1: Whatever the that's the heartbeat like that, I would consider Red, White, 352 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 1: and Blue America. Yeah, it's so casual too. It's really great. 353 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:46,280 Speaker 1: You've probably been following what's going on with russ in 354 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:51,480 Speaker 1: the Ukraine. I'm not concerned. We our own position soft everybody. 355 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:54,359 Speaker 1: It was like doctrine does not say invade the country 356 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:56,480 Speaker 1: like kreen the dead of winter with three feet snow 357 00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 1: on the ground. It's the way until thought. You gotta 358 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:01,199 Speaker 1: do with a lot more truths. What's your thing? You 359 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:07,639 Speaker 1: think Russian? And when it's actually when it's frozen, if 360 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:11,200 Speaker 1: you have more mobility, really don't think. So what do 361 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:14,560 Speaker 1: you think, Well, when you're on one stable in ice 362 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 1: and it's frozen, it's it's it's a lot easier than mud. 363 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:21,400 Speaker 1: Do you think there might go I'm hoping not about 364 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:25,639 Speaker 1: the US, particularly the Biden administration isn't sending a clear 365 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:28,960 Speaker 1: message other than we're going to throw economic sections on you. 366 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:32,960 Speaker 1: I don't think Russia is gonna go alone. I think Russia. 367 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 1: You will look at what China is doing with Taiwan. 368 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:42,119 Speaker 1: I don't think it's gonna happen during the Olympics. Just 369 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 1: keep muscling away out. We're out of position in the Pacific. 370 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:49,400 Speaker 1: As far as the US military goes, China has emerged 371 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:54,280 Speaker 1: as a juggernaut both economically and military. Russia does not 372 00:21:54,440 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 1: have the conventional military strength. But certainly, right most Americans 373 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 1: don't know who Ukraine is, so I'm not sure there's 374 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:08,960 Speaker 1: an appetite to goo to to tell military with Russia 375 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:13,240 Speaker 1: and risk a nuclear conflict over over a country we 376 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:16,920 Speaker 1: don't know. But this is this is an area where 377 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:20,800 Speaker 1: our allies we have to work in concert with each other, 378 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 1: certainly Europe and economically we can limit access or or 379 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:33,280 Speaker 1: eliminate Russia's access to the international banking system. There's there's 380 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:36,560 Speaker 1: a lot we can do. But I don't think Russia 381 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 1: will go alone. As you know, it's my theory, they'll 382 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:45,240 Speaker 1: go in and coordinate whatever they're gonna do with China. 383 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 1: What you think China really? Do you think they're acting 384 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:51,120 Speaker 1: comfort I think that we'll see where China goes in Taiwan. 385 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:54,119 Speaker 1: You can imagine this scenario wherever that scenario. Yeah, in 386 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:57,240 Speaker 1: a in a realistic scenario is if China begins to 387 00:22:57,320 --> 00:23:00,440 Speaker 1: move and we'll see how far China will go. Russia 388 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:02,400 Speaker 1: could move at the same time and see how far 389 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:07,080 Speaker 1: they go exploited, exploited. And Putin is very formable, crafty, 390 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:10,520 Speaker 1: and Russia doesn't have the GDP. They know they don't 391 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 1: have the reserves to do long P long warfare, right, 392 00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:17,879 Speaker 1: but they certainly have enough force to do it new strikes, 393 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 1: and Pudin tends to you know, I would say Russia 394 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 1: kind of has probably a pair of fives, but Putin 395 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:28,720 Speaker 1: plays it as he's got a full house. He's a 396 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:33,200 Speaker 1: very crafty, very very very very formal. I don't view 397 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:39,119 Speaker 1: Russia as our enemy. They are an aggressor competitive adversary. 398 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:46,240 Speaker 1: And China continues to flex their power and territorial aspirations 399 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:48,479 Speaker 1: as we see, and it us all economic for them. 400 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:50,840 Speaker 1: It's all about energy, and they want they want what's 401 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:52,880 Speaker 1: under that water in south time to see whether it's 402 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 1: gotta so wild. They want to be able to get 403 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:56,879 Speaker 1: out of because right now they're an all other important 404 00:23:57,280 --> 00:24:00,440 Speaker 1: so they have vulnerabilities on they do and as well, 405 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:04,119 Speaker 1: and sometimes you know, I was born in nine, and 406 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:06,960 Speaker 1: China was well cheat tours, et cetera. When I was 407 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:12,040 Speaker 1: going to Hi. China has evolved in China has been 408 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 1: a great nation, sure for a long time, for a 409 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:17,920 Speaker 1: long time, and they rightfully view themselves as a great nation, 410 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:21,560 Speaker 1: the Middle Kingdom, the senterview, and I think they're their 411 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 1: political aspirations are global. Yeah, so I think we're seeing 412 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 1: that being manifested. They want to be their own kind 413 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:30,280 Speaker 1: of super bar. I used to laugh when people would say, well, 414 00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:32,679 Speaker 1: China is like the second largest comedy. It's been the 415 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:34,919 Speaker 1: second largest comedy for a very long time. It's had 416 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:37,680 Speaker 1: a huge country. It's almost always been in second place 417 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:41,600 Speaker 1: to somebody else. Well, I think the US at the 418 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 1: moment is perceived as a week are pole, especially after Afghanistan, 419 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:51,359 Speaker 1: our forced disposition, our unwillingness to fight for what we 420 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 1: believe in as a country. That kind of miscalculation is 421 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 1: a very dangerous thing for other countries to engageing. Well. 422 00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:01,160 Speaker 1: And President Trump looked at at NATO. You know, we 423 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:05,600 Speaker 1: were supplying all the force structure, everything, and and our 424 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:09,879 Speaker 1: allies basically we're doing nothing and they were using that 425 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:13,480 Speaker 1: money that they say for creating more social programs right, 426 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, US became the only viable 427 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:22,160 Speaker 1: defense and in Europe. So in this case, I think 428 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 1: our allies have to step up because the US under 429 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:30,000 Speaker 1: the Biden administration perhaps won't, and whether the US would 430 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:33,200 Speaker 1: go alone would be a very very long shot under 431 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 1: this administration. But to our new allies, it would just 432 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:38,119 Speaker 1: say that, you know, guys in the military, that's a 433 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:41,200 Speaker 1: jobs program for the government too. You're still getting people, 434 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:44,000 Speaker 1: you're still paying them, They're still actually providing very important 435 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 1: public service. But I think for the American public, and 436 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:52,080 Speaker 1: certainly Montans Ukraine is far lower on the priority than 437 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:59,040 Speaker 1: our southern border. Inflation, the Wolf movement is gutting traditions 438 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:02,320 Speaker 1: of the United States, our character. Where you see the 439 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 1: Constitution under drest, both the Second Amendment here as well 440 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:09,400 Speaker 1: as First Amendment, and of course the vaccination. I think 441 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:12,679 Speaker 1: it's unconstitutional force in individual. I think it's a choice, 442 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:15,879 Speaker 1: and an individual should way the benefits and the risks. 443 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:20,359 Speaker 1: And what seems to be apparent is the government in 444 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 1: the social media is censoring any risk its course, and 445 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:28,280 Speaker 1: if you don't march in line, sometimes your your livelihood, 446 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:31,240 Speaker 1: your jobs, just thinking're gonna get shamed you're gonna be 447 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:34,640 Speaker 1: attacked as some you're an anti factor, or you don't 448 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:38,000 Speaker 1: believe in science with nonsense like we need a realistic 449 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:43,000 Speaker 1: discussion on the benefits and risks of welcome decision and 450 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:47,440 Speaker 1: concern and accept to that natural immunity is far superior. 451 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 1: And the studies are exhaustive over a hundred and forty studies. 452 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:54,640 Speaker 1: If you're naturally immune, there's something in your body that 453 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:59,200 Speaker 1: provides protection, and that protection is better than a vaccination. 454 00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:01,200 Speaker 1: What do you suppose is the government? And then they 455 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:04,080 Speaker 1: are reflecting We've been following the Colossians and Navy seals 456 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:07,600 Speaker 1: are filed over religious objections and taken the vaccine, and 457 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:10,280 Speaker 1: it's one of the characteristics of the military, refuses to 458 00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:14,200 Speaker 1: recognize natural man prior infections being aquivalent to the vaccine. 459 00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:16,399 Speaker 1: That's mystified to me. Why do you suppose it is. 460 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:19,520 Speaker 1: Why do you think they just take it off the table? Again, 461 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:22,679 Speaker 1: it is mystifying. But when you have I think a 462 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 1: coordinated effort between the government and the social media and 463 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:29,720 Speaker 1: if you get out of line, they're gonna go after you, 464 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:34,120 Speaker 1: and that's an infringement of the First Amendment free speech. 465 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:38,520 Speaker 1: It's also just wrong sure, and so we need to 466 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:41,240 Speaker 1: have a long discussion. I think what we're gonna see 467 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:45,400 Speaker 1: is the House will will pivot and it will be 468 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:48,440 Speaker 1: a Republican leadhouse. Where were they put junk communities? Where 469 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:50,640 Speaker 1: were community would you like to see as well? Yeah, 470 00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:54,800 Speaker 1: it's funny because I maintain my seenority should go back 471 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:57,480 Speaker 1: to theod And I think the House can do two things. 472 00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:01,159 Speaker 1: One is the House can investigate, and there's gonna be 473 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:04,640 Speaker 1: a temptation to investigate everything. My counsel is to be 474 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:08,920 Speaker 1: very judicial in what we investigate. The side absolute abuse 475 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:13,280 Speaker 1: of power. With the impeachment process, there wasn't high crime, 476 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:15,440 Speaker 1: so it was just an abuse. So two wrongs don't 477 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:18,960 Speaker 1: make right. But probably the most important thing the House 478 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:23,439 Speaker 1: can do is the power to purse. A lot of 479 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:27,240 Speaker 1: what we see is in law and it's authorized, but 480 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:30,160 Speaker 1: how the government in the House is supposed to work 481 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:33,919 Speaker 1: is authorized, doesn't mean it's funded. You got to go 482 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:36,920 Speaker 1: through a budget process and put money in the account 483 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:41,280 Speaker 1: to execute that particular rule law. And so the House 484 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:45,680 Speaker 1: can go back to appropriations and zero out those regulatory 485 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:49,960 Speaker 1: penalties that we what we see, and administration tries to 486 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:53,400 Speaker 1: move money around the support it then you can investigate 487 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:57,400 Speaker 1: and to throw in the jail, but that takes an 488 00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:02,760 Speaker 1: enormous amount of work. And my potential colleagues, we haven't 489 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:06,640 Speaker 1: done an appropriation process get a long time of years. 490 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:10,200 Speaker 1: It's like since fighting man, because when you do continuing resolutions, 491 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:12,840 Speaker 1: these omnibuses, we need to go back to what's called 492 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:15,320 Speaker 1: regular order. And it's a lot of work. Right if 493 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:18,320 Speaker 1: this is four letter word called work right, So then 494 00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:21,720 Speaker 1: compromise and debate to a consideration and all kinds of 495 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:24,720 Speaker 1: m Yeah, and so members will be able to fly 496 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:28,600 Speaker 1: in on Tuesday and fly out on Thursday because the 497 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:32,760 Speaker 1: volume will work, will mandate if they stay in the UK. 498 00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:36,800 Speaker 1: You know what. That's what the American citizens and Montanan's 499 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,480 Speaker 1: expect and said, look, you need to fight for me. 500 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:43,720 Speaker 1: I'm giving you the honor to do your job, but 501 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:47,160 Speaker 1: I expect and to return that you fight for what's 502 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 1: right and do your job. So I'm fairly calm. I 503 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:53,480 Speaker 1: would not even consider running if I didn't know it 504 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:57,280 Speaker 1: was flexable. So it is fixable. But the sequence has 505 00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 1: to be we have to take the majority back another 506 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:01,920 Speaker 1: we PA because you have to lead. We have to 507 00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:06,080 Speaker 1: articulate a message of what is worth fighting for, primarily 508 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:13,080 Speaker 1: limited government, self determination and protection, constitution, freedoms, all of them. 509 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:17,040 Speaker 1: And then we have to have a narrative to tell 510 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:20,280 Speaker 1: the American people and convince the American people that's the 511 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:27,360 Speaker 1: right path. And we have to act with maturity and grace. Yeah, 512 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:29,640 Speaker 1: and then and then it puts us in a position 513 00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:34,040 Speaker 1: for the presidency in to save America. There's no plan 514 00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:38,080 Speaker 1: being so but the first sequences, let's work hard, just 515 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:41,560 Speaker 1: get the majority that's gonna message and a narrative. And 516 00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:46,360 Speaker 1: you know, lastly, there are a significant number of Americans, 517 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:51,160 Speaker 1: and they're American citizens that hate Americans, and we're gonna 518 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:53,080 Speaker 1: have to tend to that. And we're gonna to tend 519 00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:56,920 Speaker 1: to and work on because if there's Americans that believe 520 00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:02,040 Speaker 1: the opportunity is the same as it is for you 521 00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:06,040 Speaker 1: and I. But so I'm all about yeah, but they're 522 00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:09,720 Speaker 1: also twenty five or thirty years behind us in terms 523 00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:11,800 Speaker 1: of getting that start with the opportunity. You know, just 524 00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:15,440 Speaker 1: turney teen to become the CEO of warm you're abow 525 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:17,440 Speaker 1: have to climb the ladder. You have to work for it. 526 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:19,880 Speaker 1: It's like an attitude. And so you know, I'm all 527 00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:22,400 Speaker 1: about showing the ladder of success helping him in the 528 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:24,280 Speaker 1: first round. Just make sure that they got to climb 529 00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:26,400 Speaker 1: the ladder themselves, right, they got to climb the ladder. 530 00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:29,160 Speaker 1: There's a difference, right, And you can't reward people not 531 00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:34,560 Speaker 1: to work. But our country will not survive when Americans 532 00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:38,040 Speaker 1: hate other Americans and they also see a lot of 533 00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:41,120 Speaker 1: hate and division this country, and it just won't stand 534 00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:44,960 Speaker 1: because it's tearing the fabric of our country. Apartment. Yeah, well, 535 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:47,560 Speaker 1: we'll go out on that. You're your campaign people are 536 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:50,240 Speaker 1: telling me you have other appointments to attend today, and 537 00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:51,840 Speaker 1: I'd just like to thank you for being on something 538 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:54,600 Speaker 1: that radio with us matter. You're always welcome here than 539 00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:56,280 Speaker 1: you're an old friend of ours, so we'll be happy 540 00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:58,640 Speaker 1: to see you again, will be interested in your how 541 00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:00,680 Speaker 1: lad did this? Uh is? I tend to be a 542 00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:04,480 Speaker 1: little bit of a cheerleader lately, saying, look, it's our country. 543 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:07,920 Speaker 1: It is fixable. Um. But it's kind of like being 544 00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:10,160 Speaker 1: in a bus. We're all of us living our lives 545 00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:12,320 Speaker 1: and we weren't paying attention where we're going, and we 546 00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:15,000 Speaker 1: look up and we're here at place we want to 547 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:17,320 Speaker 1: be as a country, and there's no bus driver. Right. 548 00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:20,680 Speaker 1: So it's a commidant of us all that believe in 549 00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:24,600 Speaker 1: this country, at the school board level, at the state level, 550 00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:26,760 Speaker 1: at the county level, at the federal level, all of 551 00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:30,200 Speaker 1: us have to participate in a great democracy to keep 552 00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:33,640 Speaker 1: it alive. We're gonna share the survival of our democracy. 553 00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:35,800 Speaker 1: But it will take all of us to do that, 554 00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:39,760 Speaker 1: sure will. So God bless and the confident that you 555 00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:43,200 Speaker 1: know never been against America. No, everybody whoever has has 556 00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:45,480 Speaker 1: always come up snake eyes on us. Well, you know, 557 00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:47,360 Speaker 1: it might seem like we're in the fourth quarter. It 558 00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:51,200 Speaker 1: don't worry, Lady Liberty has got a good army. Listen on, 559 00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:54,080 Speaker 1: behalf of everyone here in software. Thank you for listening 560 00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:56,560 Speaker 1: to Shawn Spoons, Entitor in Chief. I just want to 561 00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:58,440 Speaker 1: give a quick shot out to fight the leven Tactical. 562 00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:01,200 Speaker 1: They are the official outfit are for software here at 563 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:05,200 Speaker 1: Chachell On. Behalf of allowed us here signing off. Take 564 00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:24,480 Speaker 1: care you've been listening to self Rep Ldia m H.