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<v Speaker 2>We have I think a tremendous third hour of the show. WD.

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<v Speaker 2>Dan Dockets, who of course has his own show on OutKick,

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<v Speaker 2>will join us in about twenty minutes. We'll get his

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<v Speaker 2>thoughts on the NBA Draft and specifically on I think

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<v Speaker 2>the biggest name taking maybe the entire draft, was taken

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<v Speaker 2>with the fifty to fifth pick. That's Brownie James and

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<v Speaker 2>I want to start there. Dan Lebron got emotional and

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<v Speaker 2>go ahead, Dan, you you had a story that you

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<v Speaker 2>want to there.

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<v Speaker 3>Doug, there's something that happened today in the world of

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<v Speaker 3>sports that I don't know. I've never heard this happen before,

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<v Speaker 3>and it happened in a major sporting event, truly a

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<v Speaker 3>major US Senior Open going on right now Newport, Rhode Island,

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<v Speaker 3>one of the classic courses, Newport Country Club. Sure, and

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<v Speaker 3>a guy in the name of Frank Benzil Junior. Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>I think a lot of us are saying that who

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<v Speaker 3>is Frank Benzil Junior. Well you should know the name,

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<v Speaker 3>because not only did he cart a hole in one

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<v Speaker 3>on his round today, he carded a second hole in one.

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<v Speaker 3>No way, Yes, but that doesn't even make it crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait, hold on, hold on, I feel like I'm watching

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<v Speaker 2>an infomercial of Ronk. But wait, there's more.

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<v Speaker 3>There is more. He did it on back to back holes. No,

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<v Speaker 3>so rob has never been done. I have never heard

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<v Speaker 3>of this. And the reason that I've never heard of

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<v Speaker 3>this is to have two hole in ones on a

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<v Speaker 3>round is rare enough. How many courses do you know

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<v Speaker 3>that you play have back to back par threes.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't. I don't know. Well, I mean a par

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<v Speaker 2>three course maybe, but yeah, yeah, I play at Oneida here,

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<v Speaker 2>beautiful course in Green Bay, Wisconsin, and there's not back

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<v Speaker 2>to back par.

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<v Speaker 3>Three there is it is. It is amazing when you

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<v Speaker 3>look on a scorecard because he went ace ace on

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<v Speaker 3>holes four and five, and seventy three yards on the

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<v Speaker 3>par four third, on the par three fourth hole, and

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<v Speaker 3>then on the par three fifth hole two hundred and

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<v Speaker 3>two yards with an ace, and then four straight bogies afterwards.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh, I can't like the bogies afterwards. It

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<v Speaker 2>speaks to all of them.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, absolutely, but to have two aces back to back

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<v Speaker 3>and in a major like that is that is a

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<v Speaker 3>I've never ever heard of this, and it happened today

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<v Speaker 3>at the US Senior Open for Frank Benzil Junior of Jupiter, Florida.

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<v Speaker 2>Frank Benzil June was that the guy's name of Catch

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<v Speaker 2>Me if you can, the guy who wrote the bad checks?

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<v Speaker 2>Is that? Is that him?

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<v Speaker 3>That's not my not my.

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<v Speaker 2>J What was what was the name of the of

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<v Speaker 2>the character? It was a real life character based on

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<v Speaker 2>a real life character of the guy in Catch Me

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<v Speaker 2>if you Can, Tom Hanks, And.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm looking at looking at Frank Abdi.

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<v Speaker 2>Abdial, Frank Abgnail.

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<v Speaker 3>Frank Benzil Junior has two aces, five pars, and eight

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<v Speaker 3>bogies on his scorecard today.

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<v Speaker 2>It is back to back aces and then how many.

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<v Speaker 3>Bogies for these eight bogeys after the back to back yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>four straight bogeys, yes, bogie the next four holes, which,

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<v Speaker 3>by the way, who cares?

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<v Speaker 2>But how do you describe that to a friend and

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<v Speaker 2>how you how did you play day? Frank? Eh? I

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<v Speaker 2>mean I had two aces? What then I had four

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<v Speaker 2>straight bogies.

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<v Speaker 3>There's but there's I don't know if there's anybody in

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<v Speaker 3>the world who would care about the four bogue to

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<v Speaker 3>be able to have two aces, I don't have one

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<v Speaker 3>in my life. I would I would love one. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't think par three hole and ones are really legitimate.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that you have to have it on a

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<v Speaker 3>on a real course, just because there's too many opportunities on.

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<v Speaker 2>The par three well on a par three course.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, on a par three course, yeah, but yeah, to

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<v Speaker 3>have it back to back holes, uh, just crazy. But

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<v Speaker 3>so a bit of what I feel is sports history.

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<v Speaker 3>I've messed up other sports details today I can't remember this.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you feel sports history? That's sports history? That's never

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<v Speaker 2>happens to be US Open competition alone, in any any

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<v Speaker 2>any competition, professional or otherwise. I can't think of we

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<v Speaker 2>would have known that. Just that's crazy. Crazy. I will

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<v Speaker 2>let that sink in for a second. Just what do

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<v Speaker 2>you hit on a ones on a two two part three?

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<v Speaker 2>I'd I know it?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, depending, I'd probably hit a four hybrid. It's that's

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<v Speaker 3>that's probably my best bet and maybe get a you know,

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<v Speaker 3>five iron there.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yep, maybe maybe. Are you bringing the clubs when

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<v Speaker 2>you come to Wisconsin?

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<v Speaker 3>I am, I am. We're in negotiations with the wife

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<v Speaker 3>right now on bringing the clubs. So though we are in.

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<v Speaker 2>Talks, can I can I help you with the negotiation? Yes? Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>So you're coming home, You're going to see a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of family. Yeah, okay. Part of it is, though, like

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<v Speaker 2>what holds you back from playing more golf at home

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<v Speaker 2>is that you spend time with your son Brody as

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<v Speaker 2>much as you possibly can. If you sacrifice your golf game,

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<v Speaker 2>you sacrifice your golf game. The great thing about coming

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<v Speaker 2>home to family is your wife Lisa. You guys trust

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<v Speaker 2>your family members, so you guys can actually go and

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<v Speaker 2>do your own thing together. Now, she may want to

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<v Speaker 2>do something with you and not with Brody and do

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<v Speaker 2>that together. So my negotiation, bower you, is plan something

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<v Speaker 2>for her on a day or let her tell her

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<v Speaker 2>she has a day and during that same day you

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<v Speaker 2>go play golf and then oh yeah, by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>if you guys want to have dinner together, Brody's taken

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<v Speaker 2>care of.

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<v Speaker 5>Do that. Good plan.

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<v Speaker 2>And by the way, you can come play my course.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, it's a really nice course.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't wait. It's one of those we are going

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<v Speaker 3>to Green Bay. We are going to go stop by

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<v Speaker 3>and see Doug.

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<v Speaker 2>That is I mean, it's but it's a it's a

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<v Speaker 2>it's one of those courses where I mean, Oneida is

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<v Speaker 2>one of the courses. I'm like, how did I get here?

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<v Speaker 2>At this place? Is so nice, so incredibly nice. Let's

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<v Speaker 2>get to the topic of the day, which is the

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<v Speaker 2>topic to sure is that Brownie James is now a

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<v Speaker 2>member of the LA Lakers and with all the posturing

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<v Speaker 2>and I respect to Mark Stein and the Phoenix Suns

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<v Speaker 2>were thinking about drafting him, No, they were. Their GM

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<v Speaker 2>obviously was former teammate of Lebron's and I'm sure they

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<v Speaker 2>thought about it. Thinking about it and wanting to do it.

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<v Speaker 2>Those are two very different things, right, And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the GM of the Mavericks used to run Lebron James

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<v Speaker 2>Academy in Camp and was his connection with he worked

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<v Speaker 2>for Nike right, So obviously there's a great relationship there.

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<v Speaker 2>So again thinking about it and actually doing it, they

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<v Speaker 2>drafted a player who wasn't going to be drafted with

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<v Speaker 2>the fifty to fifth pick, which is the right to do.

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<v Speaker 2>Lebron got emotional. You can see bronni and there is

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<v Speaker 2>the real human aspect of it. It's not just father

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<v Speaker 2>and son. It's a father who you know, a year

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<v Speaker 2>ago his son had a heart attack and nearly didn't live,

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<v Speaker 2>let alone play basketball again. So that part of it

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<v Speaker 2>is amazing. And I can't imagine as a parent going

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<v Speaker 2>through all of those ups and downs. And if you're

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<v Speaker 2>a parent, you know what it's like a coaching your

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<v Speaker 2>own kid, watching your own kid, you know, seeing his struggles.

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<v Speaker 2>All you want them to do is achieve and succeed.

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<v Speaker 2>And again then you bring in the idea that Lebron

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<v Speaker 2>didn't have a dad overcame so much in terms of

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<v Speaker 2>a personal life, and I know, we sit there and

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<v Speaker 2>go a six eight, two sixty, what did he overcome?

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<v Speaker 5>Like?

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<v Speaker 2>It ain't easy. It's not easy to deal with all

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<v Speaker 2>of the things that come to trappings of fame. And

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<v Speaker 2>we have never had not one off the court incidant,

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<v Speaker 2>not one off the court incident from lebron James during

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<v Speaker 2>his storied NBA career. I mean, it's really remarkable how

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<v Speaker 2>sound he is in his personal life. That said, like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it just it doesn't feel like it has

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<v Speaker 2>anything to do with Bronni's development and Bronnie being a

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<v Speaker 2>legitimate NBA player and it it just and because of it,

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<v Speaker 2>like forcing, it just feels awkward. I don't know, it

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<v Speaker 2>feels way more awkward than even Giannis's brothers. I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not exactly sure why. And they were part of

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<v Speaker 2>teams and they played and it was bad and whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>But and I know this has happened before and it

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<v Speaker 2>will happen again in some senses in the NBA, but

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<v Speaker 2>this one feels.

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<v Speaker 3>Different sure, and and and the Bucks did it for

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<v Speaker 3>reasons that I think that they felt would keep Giannis

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<v Speaker 3>in town. And this is the Lakers doing Lebron a

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<v Speaker 3>solid But you talk about it being awkward, like the awkwardness,

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<v Speaker 3>how does Bronni feel?

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<v Speaker 5>Like?

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<v Speaker 3>How does how does Bronny develop relationships within that locker

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<v Speaker 3>room with dad now in the locker room, like how

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<v Speaker 3>does how is I appreciate your insights and there are

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<v Speaker 3>others who are who are fair as well. But with

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<v Speaker 3>some of the rhetoric that we had heard with him

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<v Speaker 3>being drafted, specifically on ESPN's draft coverage, but how are

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<v Speaker 3>we going to get an honest assessment of who he

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<v Speaker 3>is and what he is? And in that case, I

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<v Speaker 3>feel bad for Bronnie in him being in an awkward position.

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<v Speaker 3>It would I think it would have been much cooler

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<v Speaker 3>if he was on another team, Doug and it's the

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<v Speaker 3>Lakers against Sons or whoever, and it's father against son

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<v Speaker 3>in that way, I just think it's I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>how this works. Like when Ken Gray and Ken Graffy junior,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, Senior and Junior played together, Junior was the

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<v Speaker 3>up and coming star, right, you know, And that is

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<v Speaker 3>not the case here. So how Bronni's gonna find his

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<v Speaker 3>way just even in a locker room where dad is.

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<v Speaker 3>I just I have I don't know. I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>how that works.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And look, and I think we talked about the

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<v Speaker 2>sum on my show about Lonzo Ball, right, and that

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<v Speaker 2>one of the reasons that I think Lonzo it probably

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<v Speaker 2>set back. The biggest set back to his NBA career

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<v Speaker 2>was his knee But one of the reasons that Lonzo

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<v Speaker 2>was so kind of passive in terms of his leadership

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<v Speaker 2>and not being necessarily vocal is his dad took up

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<v Speaker 2>all of the oxygen in the room, right, So the

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<v Speaker 2>son just like you can't have two loud personalities every

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<v Speaker 2>time they're in the room together. And Bronnie's much the

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<v Speaker 2>same way, you know, And and yeah, Bronnie always tries

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<v Speaker 2>to make the right play, but there's just a lack of, Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to take over any game or take

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<v Speaker 2>over and that actually blends well, like I think he'll

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<v Speaker 2>fit and find in the locker room, but like, at

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<v Speaker 2>some point you want to be your own man, right, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And I have a player who his dad was a player.

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<v Speaker 2>He's a really talented kid. And when we first met,

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<v Speaker 2>like he's kind of he was kind of quiet and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, looking at his phone a lot, and he

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't awkward, but he definitely wasn't kind of an outgoing personality.

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<v Speaker 2>And his dad when his dad went home, like this,

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<v Speaker 2>every day he has been here, he has become more

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<v Speaker 2>and more part of the group and more and more

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<v Speaker 2>outspoken and just kind of lights up. And it's not

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<v Speaker 2>that and his dad has done nothing wrong, Like his

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<v Speaker 2>dad just loves him, protects him, and they're really really

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<v Speaker 2>close and he's kind of his mentor and his coach

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<v Speaker 2>and his everything. But like, at some point, you get

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<v Speaker 2>to be nineteen twenty years old, like you kind of

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<v Speaker 2>got to go be your own dude and make your

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<v Speaker 2>own mistakes. And I just think that Lebron is I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know if we want to say coddling him, but

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<v Speaker 2>it's gonna be really hard to be your own guy

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<v Speaker 2>when your dad is Lebron and you're on like you're

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<v Speaker 2>on the same team. That one's just gonna be weird.

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<v Speaker 3>I just I don't know, like if if let's you say,

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<v Speaker 3>Lebron you know, just kind of goes off in practice

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<v Speaker 3>or is on one or something and you're sitting around

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<v Speaker 3>with five or six guys and Bronni's there where normally

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<v Speaker 3>you would say, and again, not Bronnie's fault at all,

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<v Speaker 3>It is not his fault. But how do you be

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<v Speaker 3>like poy Lebron was on one today without having a

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<v Speaker 3>you know, not not a fear, but just to being

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<v Speaker 3>comfortable in being able to talk about, you know, what

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<v Speaker 3>is you know, what you normally would talk about in

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<v Speaker 3>the locker room or with your group of guys.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, there's there is another element to it. I

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<v Speaker 2>agree with you on that. By the way, I agree

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<v Speaker 2>with you on that. We talked about this a lot

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<v Speaker 2>last night just among friends. Is what do you think

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<v Speaker 2>they do with summer league? Cause I'm gonna tell you

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<v Speaker 2>right now, Like, I don't know summer league is gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be great for Brownie. I just don't, like, he hasn't

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<v Speaker 2>played a lot of ball, and like they will come

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<v Speaker 2>at you in summer league, like all those guys like

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<v Speaker 2>that is chum in the water, and you know, he

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<v Speaker 2>needs to play summer league. He needs to play extensively

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<v Speaker 2>in summer league. But I don't know how that works out.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know how that that feels. And some of it,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I just I think that's a really interesting

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<v Speaker 2>And we've seen like last year Wemby played two games.

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<v Speaker 2>We've seen other guys play a couple games and then

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<v Speaker 2>pull him. You know, do they say he's got an injury?

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<v Speaker 2>Does he play until he plays a good game and

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<v Speaker 2>then all of a sudden, you know, he tweaks an

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<v Speaker 2>ankle and they're gonna sit him down, or he's got

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<v Speaker 2>a hamstring pull or something like that. The Summer league

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<v Speaker 2>aspect of it, because the legal want him to play.

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<v Speaker 2>The Lakers are already a gigantic draw. He's gonna be

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<v Speaker 2>a gigantic draw. And now, like you, you can hide

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<v Speaker 2>a guy and barely play him in an NBA game

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<v Speaker 2>and play five minutes and you know, and and take

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of shots whenever. It's actually harder in Summer

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<v Speaker 2>League in many ways because it's less organized and all

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<v Speaker 2>of those other guys are trying to make it in

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<v Speaker 2>the league. They are licensed assassins, and they are gonna

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<v Speaker 2>come right at Ronnie James, and it'll be interested to

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<v Speaker 2>see how he plays, because he has been somebody that's

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<v Speaker 2>been passive in many of those in many of those

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<v Speaker 2>type of moments.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>So we got two aces on back to back holes

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<v Speaker 2>in the US Senior Open, Ohait, and we got Brianie

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<v Speaker 2>James being drafted. So there's some stuff going on. Luxury

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<v Speaker 2>What does it say about the college game? What does

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<v Speaker 2>it say about the American product that so many foreign

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<v Speaker 2>players go before domestically born players. We'll get to that

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<v Speaker 2>Doug Gotti been for Dan Dane's Dan Patrick Hill, Fox

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<v Speaker 2>m Dan Byrom Doug gottlieb Dan, then that's out for

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<v Speaker 2>the week. There's something to the process that we're doing

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<v Speaker 2>or not doing with our own players that has allowed

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<v Speaker 2>the international takeoff. Don't don't get me wrong. I saw

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<v Speaker 2>the France thing coming. You know, three of the top

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<v Speaker 2>six draft picks from France. If you played in France,

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<v Speaker 2>if you've internationally, you traveled to France, you understand that

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<v Speaker 2>game is way way more athletic than any other European game.

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<v Speaker 2>But to me, I don't think there's any one part

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<v Speaker 2>about it. I think it's the entire story, right, Like

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<v Speaker 2>there's part of it. Where in the United States you

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<v Speaker 2>have options. You know, if you're for example, you know

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<v Speaker 2>most NBA players are six to and above right, But

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<v Speaker 2>if you're six to and above in the States, there's

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of options. Baseball players, baseball pitchers especially, are

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<v Speaker 2>are tall. It's valued because you can generate more power

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<v Speaker 2>right and you know you can reach halfway to home play.

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<v Speaker 2>There's lots of quarterbacks that are and to a lesser extent,

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<v Speaker 2>wide receivers, but quarterbacks would be really good basketball players

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<v Speaker 2>at six two to six five, as well volleyball players.

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<v Speaker 2>Right you're starting to get to some of the taller athletes.

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<v Speaker 2>It does shrink a little bit of the But I

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<v Speaker 2>think the biggest issue with our country's development as opposed

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<v Speaker 2>to other countries development, is the fact that there's just

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<v Speaker 2>no consistency for these players growing up. And it's almost

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<v Speaker 2>an upset when they make it because they don't. It's yes,

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<v Speaker 2>they play too many games, but part of it is

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<v Speaker 2>they don't have to earn playing time. There's a million

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<v Speaker 2>AAU teams. So if one coach won't play you in

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<v Speaker 2>order to get you in the right headspace or get

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<v Speaker 2>you to play defense, or get you to play team basketball,

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<v Speaker 2>oftentimes your parent or your handler will just take you

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<v Speaker 2>to a different AU team. And the same thing happens

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<v Speaker 2>in college. I'm wondering if that's what Dan Dockets thinks.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, he's got his show and OutKick called Don't

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<v Speaker 2>at Me Monday through Friday nine am to eleven am

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<v Speaker 2>Eastern time. Of course, he's a long time college basketball coach,

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<v Speaker 2>head coach and a long time basketball analyst as well. Dan,

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<v Speaker 2>are we screwing it up? Is the coaching development better?

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<v Speaker 2>Do they just have better personnel? Why do you think

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<v Speaker 2>hypothesize for me if you will that you know there's

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<v Speaker 2>such an international takeover in the NBA draft.

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<v Speaker 5>Done. Thanks thanks for having me. Uh. I think it's

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<v Speaker 5>a lot of things. Like I think, athletically, body wise,

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<v Speaker 5>strength wise, we've never been better in the United States.

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<v Speaker 5>And I'm talking about basketball. Guys are bigger, guys are stronger.

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<v Speaker 5>It's just kind of funny everybody, you know, because of

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<v Speaker 5>Michael Jordan and Barklay and those guys, goes back to

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<v Speaker 5>kind of when I was playing, which is the mid eighties,

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<v Speaker 5>and I look at guys like Charles Hurd at Kentucky

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<v Speaker 5>that now would be small. So we've got that going.

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<v Speaker 5>I think it's a number of things, and you touched

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<v Speaker 5>on a couple. I think there's a lack of discipline

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<v Speaker 5>and a lack of internal toughness in our players. I

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<v Speaker 5>think that if you go back and you look, one

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<v Speaker 5>of the things that was always stressed back in the

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<v Speaker 5>day by coaches, college coaches was toughness. She had to fight,

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<v Speaker 5>you had, it'd be tough. Ho you paranoia, Bob Knight,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, even Dean Smith and those guys Krzyzewsky, everything

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<v Speaker 5>about you know, persevering and getting better. And now, as

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<v Speaker 5>you said, it's about hey, I'm going to the best offer.

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<v Speaker 5>And you know you're you're probably finding this out. As

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<v Speaker 5>a college coach. You can talk about your business program,

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<v Speaker 5>your facilities, but you could have wasted all that time.

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<v Speaker 5>Are you wasting all that time if you don't just

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<v Speaker 5>hit them with what number? And And that's the part

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<v Speaker 5>of it. I think the entitlement when we're young. You know,

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<v Speaker 5>I coached a you and my son was young, and

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<v Speaker 5>I watched and with amazement in Las Vegas as these

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<v Speaker 5>dumb ass jackass hangers around would kiss the ass of

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<v Speaker 5>these fifteen year olds fourteen year olds, and I hated it.

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<v Speaker 5>And and that's a part of it. I also think that, frankly,

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<v Speaker 5>we we take it for granted. Like back in the day,

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<v Speaker 5>Bob Knight, Dean Smith, Hank I, Pete, all the great

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<v Speaker 5>coaches would go to Europe. They would all go to Europe.

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<v Speaker 5>And I didn't really know this until I started coaching,

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<v Speaker 5>and I'm like, wow, man, we got you know, Spain's

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<v Speaker 5>entire coaching staff hanging out with us for three weeks

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<v Speaker 5>at Indiana taking notes. Well, okay, that's come one hundred

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<v Speaker 5>eighty degrees. Now he talked to Dusty May. Where you

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<v Speaker 5>get your good offensive sets from? Well, I get him from,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, watching European basketball. I get him. Well, they've

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<v Speaker 5>taken basketball more serious. They've they've innovated. We have given

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<v Speaker 5>the ball to guys and said go dribble, and that's

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<v Speaker 5>what we do. And when you see a team, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>like Yukon that actually moves people and has some innovation

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<v Speaker 5>to him, you're like stun Well, it wasn't always like

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<v Speaker 5>that here. You know, Dean Smith's secondary break upscreen crossed

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<v Speaker 5>me down. All that stuff was innovative. It was movement,

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<v Speaker 5>Bob Knight's motion offense. Krushewsky had motion until he didn't.

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<v Speaker 5>You look at even the UCLA offense of John Wooden

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<v Speaker 5>high post duck in post reversed if EO options. You'll

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<v Speaker 5>see any of that now. In fact, I'll tell you

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<v Speaker 5>what Doug. When I work for Samson, I know Calvin

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<v Speaker 5>Sampson is considered a great coach. I don't uh. He

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<v Speaker 5>gets players to play hard and whatever. But when we

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<v Speaker 5>had an offensive set. It was basic, simple, stupid actually

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<v Speaker 5>based on my experience with Bob Knight. And then we

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<v Speaker 5>would I would in charge of the offense. I would

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<v Speaker 5>wave my hand and then flattened out. Give the ball,

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<v Speaker 5>Eric Gordon. And that's it. And that's not how Europeans

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<v Speaker 5>play basketball. That's not how Europeans are taught to play basketball,

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<v Speaker 5>but we are. And I think I think it's a

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<v Speaker 5>combination of all the things that you mentioned, all the

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<v Speaker 5>things that I mentioned. Uh, but it pisses me off

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<v Speaker 5>because I know you know that you knew the French

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<v Speaker 5>were coming, but I don't care the French, the freaking French.

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<v Speaker 5>And I know they colonized a lot of Africa. I

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<v Speaker 5>get all that, but the freaking French should never be

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<v Speaker 5>better than the United States of America in basketball. They

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<v Speaker 5>just should not the freaking French. The Serbians my people, yes,

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<v Speaker 5>but not the damn French. No French.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what I'm taking me off is the the

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<v Speaker 3>Lakers pig of Dalton cann act was praised by many,

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<v Speaker 3>but the knock was that Dalton drops because of his age.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the stuff that annoys me of this draft, because

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<v Speaker 3>his route is one that you know that is legendary.

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<v Speaker 3>You could, you know, you could make a movie about

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<v Speaker 3>it if you wanted to. But here's a knock on

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<v Speaker 3>a kid, who, by the way, is still twenty three

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<v Speaker 3>years old. That's the stuff that takes me off about

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<v Speaker 3>this NBA draft.

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<v Speaker 5>I think NBA general managers are the dumbest human beings

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<v Speaker 5>in sports in terms of administration. I listened to these guys,

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<v Speaker 5>these guys probably doing with you. They would call me

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<v Speaker 5>and I remember telling Brad Stevens. They go, Brad, it's

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<v Speaker 5>only a matter of time before you win. Like every

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<v Speaker 5>NCAA title, or excuse me, every NBA title that we

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<v Speaker 5>talk about, I will because you call me every year.

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<v Speaker 5>A lot of these guys call me every year, and

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<v Speaker 5>they're stupid. They're just stupid. And I'm just fascinated by

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<v Speaker 5>a guy that's twenty four. However, well connect is And

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<v Speaker 5>if you think about it, Doug, I'm gonna go back

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<v Speaker 5>to what I said initially. What I said initially was

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<v Speaker 5>guys are in better shape, Guys are playing longer. Tell

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<v Speaker 5>even Michael Jordan wasn't in near the shape at thirty

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<v Speaker 5>nine or forty that Lebron James is. So why do

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<v Speaker 5>I care. In fact, I should embrace the fact if

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<v Speaker 5>I'm trying to win, then I'm gonna get an older,

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<v Speaker 5>mature guy that can be coached, that will look a

0:24:17.040 --> 0:24:19.600
<v Speaker 5>coach in the eye, not look away and run to

0:24:19.720 --> 0:24:23.119
<v Speaker 5>his handler. I should embrace a guy whose body is

0:24:23.240 --> 0:24:26.320
<v Speaker 5>developed as a twenty four year old if I'm trying

0:24:26.359 --> 0:24:29.679
<v Speaker 5>to win. Now, you know how many of these guys

0:24:30.480 --> 0:24:34.639
<v Speaker 5>you know that came into the league from the United

0:24:34.680 --> 0:24:38.840
<v Speaker 5>States at eighteen really became great players. You know, people

0:24:38.840 --> 0:24:41.680
<v Speaker 5>are gonna punk the Kobe. Okay, there's a couple, but

0:24:41.800 --> 0:24:44.600
<v Speaker 5>they're outliers. There's so many guys that come into the

0:24:44.720 --> 0:24:47.399
<v Speaker 5>league at a young age. I remember when Tyson Chandler

0:24:47.400 --> 0:24:50.399
<v Speaker 5>and Eddie Curry were drafted to replace Michael Jordan, and

0:24:50.480 --> 0:24:53.400
<v Speaker 5>I remember thinking, as a Bulls fan, well, it's gonna

0:24:53.400 --> 0:24:56.399
<v Speaker 5>take ten years, you know what I mean, Like this

0:24:56.520 --> 0:24:59.399
<v Speaker 5>is gonna take what I mean. I remember you've probably

0:24:59.440 --> 0:25:02.280
<v Speaker 5>played against Tyson Chadler, you know, growing up as a kid,

0:25:03.000 --> 0:25:05.720
<v Speaker 5>I remember thinking, Okay, yeah, they're good players, but they're

0:25:05.760 --> 0:25:08.600
<v Speaker 5>not going to compete with these guys. You know, both fans,

0:25:08.640 --> 0:25:11.440
<v Speaker 5>it is ten twenty and it never happened. So it's

0:25:11.480 --> 0:25:15.160
<v Speaker 5>a joke. But I'm telling you my opinion, the NBA

0:25:15.359 --> 0:25:19.560
<v Speaker 5>general manager and his staff know less about basketball than

0:25:19.720 --> 0:25:22.359
<v Speaker 5>any I guarantee they know less about basketball than your

0:25:22.400 --> 0:25:26.399
<v Speaker 5>staff at Green Bay. I bet freaking money they know

0:25:26.560 --> 0:25:29.440
<v Speaker 5>less about basketball than your staff at Green Bay or

0:25:29.520 --> 0:25:33.040
<v Speaker 5>any good staff that's put together with basketball guys. I've

0:25:33.119 --> 0:25:36.240
<v Speaker 5>talked to these guys, I've listened to these guys. I've

0:25:36.280 --> 0:25:40.199
<v Speaker 5>heard these guys evaluate, And my opinion, Brad Stevens has

0:25:40.240 --> 0:25:42.919
<v Speaker 5>the easiest job in Americas because he's just smarter than

0:25:42.960 --> 0:25:43.959
<v Speaker 5>all these dumbasses.

0:25:44.359 --> 0:25:46.960
<v Speaker 2>I think there's some I think it's like any business.

0:25:47.040 --> 0:25:48.680
<v Speaker 2>I think there's some really smart people.

0:25:48.880 --> 0:25:51.640
<v Speaker 5>I think there's well, yeah, mature and I'm immature.

0:25:51.960 --> 0:25:54.960
<v Speaker 2>No, no, no, I'm just speak just like like, look again,

0:25:55.160 --> 0:25:58.600
<v Speaker 2>I think Polinka, Okay, Plinka's done a great job drafting.

0:25:58.720 --> 0:26:01.840
<v Speaker 2>Look at their draft record. You know that the bad

0:26:01.920 --> 0:26:04.960
<v Speaker 2>pick would probably be Lonzo Ball, and that was one

0:26:05.040 --> 0:26:08.320
<v Speaker 2>that was forced by magic. Right, they didn't want to

0:26:08.359 --> 0:26:10.600
<v Speaker 2>take Lonzo Ball. That was that was forced by magic.

0:26:10.680 --> 0:26:13.159
<v Speaker 2>Plink has done actually a damn good job with his

0:26:13.200 --> 0:26:17.720
<v Speaker 2>staff of evaluating in terms of draft. What do you

0:26:17.760 --> 0:26:18.600
<v Speaker 2>think of the Brownnie thing?

0:26:18.880 --> 0:26:21.600
<v Speaker 5>Well, let me, stop you that, because I guess maybe

0:26:21.640 --> 0:26:24.080
<v Speaker 5>I didn't make what I was saying, Claire. Yeah, yeah,

0:26:24.119 --> 0:26:26.320
<v Speaker 5>you can pick a guy, but can you put a

0:26:26.400 --> 0:26:28.920
<v Speaker 5>team together? And to me, that's what a general manager's

0:26:29.000 --> 0:26:31.280
<v Speaker 5>job is. You know, people can talk all they want

0:26:31.320 --> 0:26:33.639
<v Speaker 5>about Jerry Kraus because Michael Jordan's mad at him and

0:26:33.680 --> 0:26:35.719
<v Speaker 5>all that. But when they needed a guy, he went

0:26:35.760 --> 0:26:37.760
<v Speaker 5>out and got Tony Kukos. When they need another guy,

0:26:37.800 --> 0:26:39.959
<v Speaker 5>he went out, Well he got Scottie Pippen. He went

0:26:40.000 --> 0:26:42.560
<v Speaker 5>out and got Steve Kerr or Phil Craig Hodges was

0:26:42.600 --> 0:26:45.240
<v Speaker 5>in that role. John Paxson was in that role. Guy

0:26:45.359 --> 0:26:48.200
<v Speaker 5>can make a draft choice, but can a guy put

0:26:48.240 --> 0:26:53.479
<v Speaker 5>a team together? Does he understand putting personalities? Like the moves?

0:26:54.160 --> 0:26:56.159
<v Speaker 5>I always said this about a kid here in Indiana,

0:26:56.280 --> 0:26:59.520
<v Speaker 5>Romeo Langford. He not playing basketball to play basketball. He

0:26:59.760 --> 0:27:03.000
<v Speaker 5>was at a young age by shoe company. He's coming

0:27:03.040 --> 0:27:04.639
<v Speaker 5>at him same thing with a kid out of Indiana

0:27:04.720 --> 0:27:09.960
<v Speaker 5>named Luke Record. So, uh, my man, Brad Stevens understands. Look,

0:27:10.280 --> 0:27:12.840
<v Speaker 5>people think this Romeo Langford is a good player. People

0:27:12.920 --> 0:27:16.920
<v Speaker 5>think Malcolm Brogden's a good player. Well they're not. They're

0:27:16.960 --> 0:27:19.119
<v Speaker 5>good players maybe, but they're not winning guys, So I'm

0:27:19.160 --> 0:27:20.160
<v Speaker 5>gonna go get Derek White.

0:27:20.440 --> 0:27:24.160
<v Speaker 2>I think here, I think he didn't he draft Romeo Langford.

0:27:25.520 --> 0:27:28.320
<v Speaker 5>He made? Yeah he did. Yes, he did, and I

0:27:28.440 --> 0:27:30.400
<v Speaker 5>told him not to. Yes.

0:27:31.400 --> 0:27:34.000
<v Speaker 2>So even even even the smartest people, and I think

0:27:34.119 --> 0:27:36.920
<v Speaker 2>Brad is one of the smartest people I have ever met.

0:27:37.080 --> 0:27:40.199
<v Speaker 2>Let alone, forget about basketball. Then they can make can

0:27:40.280 --> 0:27:43.400
<v Speaker 2>make mistakes. And again it's a it's a cosic balancing act.

0:27:43.480 --> 0:27:47.000
<v Speaker 2>Let me just let me ask you about the about Bronnie, Right,

0:27:47.800 --> 0:27:50.200
<v Speaker 2>what do you think about Bronnie going fifty five to Lakers.

0:27:51.720 --> 0:27:57.520
<v Speaker 5>Well, I'm kinda I'm like, look, the Greek freaks brothers

0:27:57.560 --> 0:28:00.520
<v Speaker 5>all got drafted. I'm saying this yesterday. I might Indie Shield,

0:28:00.560 --> 0:28:03.040
<v Speaker 5>a great freaker brothers got drafted. Lebron James. I think

0:28:03.080 --> 0:28:06.280
<v Speaker 5>he's kind of earned the right. I kind of like

0:28:06.440 --> 0:28:09.280
<v Speaker 5>Lebron James. And this goes back to high school when

0:28:09.280 --> 0:28:12.080
<v Speaker 5>I recruited his high school recruits, not him, but his

0:28:12.280 --> 0:28:16.920
<v Speaker 5>teammates and everybody from janitors to teachers really like Lebron James.

0:28:16.960 --> 0:28:20.280
<v Speaker 5>Because I've always been kind of for Lebron James. And

0:28:20.320 --> 0:28:22.040
<v Speaker 5>I think his kid's a nice kid. And I sit

0:28:22.119 --> 0:28:24.800
<v Speaker 5>there and I go, all right, well, is it really

0:28:24.840 --> 0:28:27.040
<v Speaker 5>the worst thing in the world. You know, kid didn't

0:28:27.080 --> 0:28:30.040
<v Speaker 5>have a preseason, got scared with a hard thing. Maybe

0:28:30.080 --> 0:28:32.440
<v Speaker 5>he's better you with no way better than me. How

0:28:32.480 --> 0:28:34.600
<v Speaker 5>good he is or how good he is, And I

0:28:34.680 --> 0:28:36.879
<v Speaker 5>don't know, but I really don't have a problem with it.

0:28:37.040 --> 0:28:39.239
<v Speaker 5>And I do agree with what Loach said, even though

0:28:39.880 --> 0:28:41.120
<v Speaker 5>you know, I didn't like the way he said it,

0:28:41.200 --> 0:28:43.600
<v Speaker 5>but you know, I do agree. Like nepotism is all

0:28:43.640 --> 0:28:47.680
<v Speaker 5>over hell. We got we got scouts here in Indiana,

0:28:47.760 --> 0:28:51.000
<v Speaker 5>Larry Bird's kid and a J. Foytz kid, the race

0:28:51.080 --> 0:28:53.960
<v Speaker 5>car driver like his grandsoner scouts for the Pacers. So

0:28:54.080 --> 0:28:57.080
<v Speaker 5>nepotism is all over the place. I really don't have

0:28:57.160 --> 0:28:59.080
<v Speaker 5>a problem with it. I you know, it seems like

0:28:59.120 --> 0:29:01.040
<v Speaker 5>a nice kid. What the hell if you're the Lakers

0:29:01.240 --> 0:29:04.240
<v Speaker 5>as well. I was hoping to eight Doug. I was

0:29:04.280 --> 0:29:07.520
<v Speaker 5>hoping the Pacers would draft him and hold him hostage,

0:29:08.040 --> 0:29:12.120
<v Speaker 5>like I said, all right, hey, Lebron, come here. You know,

0:29:12.240 --> 0:29:16.360
<v Speaker 5>we'll pay you, or we'll trade Brownie back to the

0:29:16.440 --> 0:29:18.880
<v Speaker 5>Lakers for like Austin Reeves or something, you know what

0:29:18.920 --> 0:29:21.320
<v Speaker 5>I mean, like like draft him and hold him hostage

0:29:21.360 --> 0:29:24.920
<v Speaker 5>to the Lakers, But I don't know. I don't have

0:29:25.040 --> 0:29:26.080
<v Speaker 5>that big a problem with him.

0:29:27.000 --> 0:29:29.200
<v Speaker 3>What about Jack Edie to the Grizzlies. We had Mark

0:29:29.240 --> 0:29:31.000
<v Speaker 3>Stein on earlier and we're all trying to figure out

0:29:31.040 --> 0:29:33.520
<v Speaker 3>how that is going to work. You've seen as much

0:29:33.560 --> 0:29:36.160
<v Speaker 3>of Edie as anybody. How does he work at nine

0:29:36.200 --> 0:29:36.880
<v Speaker 3>with the Grizzlies?

0:29:37.600 --> 0:29:39.480
<v Speaker 5>Ninety a little early? But I do like this. The

0:29:39.560 --> 0:29:44.160
<v Speaker 5>trainer that Purdue was my trainer, Bowling Grain. He's one

0:29:44.200 --> 0:29:45.920
<v Speaker 5>of the smartest guys that I know. And I asked

0:29:46.000 --> 0:29:48.400
<v Speaker 5>him about Edie and he said, look, he's the best

0:29:48.440 --> 0:29:51.520
<v Speaker 5>thing ever happened to Zachie played for the Canadian team

0:29:52.400 --> 0:29:55.600
<v Speaker 5>last summer and he learned about professional basketball. You know,

0:29:55.640 --> 0:29:57.800
<v Speaker 5>there's some pros on that's a pretty good team. And

0:29:58.240 --> 0:30:00.720
<v Speaker 5>he said, you know what he learned about conditioning. He

0:30:01.040 --> 0:30:03.600
<v Speaker 5>learned about how he has to move his feet out,

0:30:03.760 --> 0:30:06.600
<v Speaker 5>you know, screw the jump shot, which everyone was telling

0:30:06.680 --> 0:30:09.680
<v Speaker 5>him he had to do. You'll get to that later,

0:30:09.920 --> 0:30:12.720
<v Speaker 5>but learn to get in the best shape possible. And

0:30:12.800 --> 0:30:15.680
<v Speaker 5>that's that's what he did. So I'm not one of

0:30:15.720 --> 0:30:19.000
<v Speaker 5>those that eliminates zach Heat he dues. You would love

0:30:19.200 --> 0:30:21.760
<v Speaker 5>him from the fact that he had and I'm guessing

0:30:21.800 --> 0:30:23.680
<v Speaker 5>you've talked to him. He has a real chip on

0:30:23.760 --> 0:30:25.960
<v Speaker 5>his shoulder, not one of these fake chips. You know

0:30:26.000 --> 0:30:28.200
<v Speaker 5>what I'm saying. He has a real chip on his shoulder,

0:30:28.760 --> 0:30:35.320
<v Speaker 5>Like he's legit in his desire to improve, improve people

0:30:35.480 --> 0:30:38.120
<v Speaker 5>wrong that kind of thing, you know, as you know,

0:30:39.080 --> 0:30:41.680
<v Speaker 5>a lot of kids say that, as you know, a

0:30:41.760 --> 0:30:44.280
<v Speaker 5>lot of cads are taught to say that. But I

0:30:44.360 --> 0:30:47.840
<v Speaker 5>think Edie's is really legit. And I'm not gonna put

0:30:47.840 --> 0:30:50.000
<v Speaker 5>anything past him. Is he going to be a thirty

0:30:50.040 --> 0:30:51.680
<v Speaker 5>point game score? He's gonna be an All Star? I

0:30:51.720 --> 0:30:54.440
<v Speaker 5>don't think so. But I'm not gonna put anything past

0:30:54.520 --> 0:30:57.200
<v Speaker 5>him being a double digit score in his first year,

0:30:57.360 --> 0:30:59.720
<v Speaker 5>or being a guy that people go, damn, you know what,

0:31:00.240 --> 0:31:01.640
<v Speaker 5>He's pretty good. He's better than I thought.

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<v Speaker 2>Doug Gottlieb Dan Byron for Dan Dannett's Fox Sports Radio

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<v Speaker 2>I Heart Radio App. Welcome in, I would do It's

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<v Speaker 2>Friday night. Uh, we've been doing this throughout the show.

0:32:01.400 --> 0:32:05.600
<v Speaker 2>On the back of whatever you want to call those debates.

0:32:05.680 --> 0:32:08.920
<v Speaker 2>Last night, we thought we would bring you the debate

0:32:09.120 --> 0:32:11.800
<v Speaker 2>to end all debates of the best and worst sports

0:32:11.880 --> 0:32:17.440
<v Speaker 2>debates in sports, debating whatever. So with that in mind,

0:32:18.480 --> 0:32:23.200
<v Speaker 2>Dan Bayer, help us out, what's the next debatable Topicly.

0:32:22.920 --> 0:32:25.160
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Doug, we are finding out where you stand on

0:32:25.240 --> 0:32:30.200
<v Speaker 3>the all time sports debates. We've settled Lebron versus Jordan, Magic,

0:32:30.320 --> 0:32:34.480
<v Speaker 3>versus Bird Bowls versus Warriors. Heck, we even settled Shack

0:32:34.600 --> 0:32:38.440
<v Speaker 3>versus Kobe. We now transition away from basketball, go to

0:32:38.520 --> 0:32:43.400
<v Speaker 3>a variety of different areas. Jack Nicholas versus Tiger Woods,

0:32:44.360 --> 0:32:46.480
<v Speaker 3>Doug where do you stand on who is the greatest

0:32:46.560 --> 0:32:47.120
<v Speaker 3>of all time?

0:32:47.560 --> 0:32:52.240
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna go with Tiger Woods. By the way, recruiting

0:32:52.360 --> 0:32:54.520
<v Speaker 2>last weekend took me away from going and playing in

0:32:54.600 --> 0:32:58.120
<v Speaker 2>this event with Jack Nicholas, and Jack Nicholas was my

0:32:58.240 --> 0:33:00.240
<v Speaker 2>dad was at Ohio State when Jack was there, So

0:33:00.320 --> 0:33:04.160
<v Speaker 2>I mean, you talking about the dude. But I think

0:33:04.320 --> 0:33:12.160
<v Speaker 2>Tiger obviously the depth and the depth of overall talent

0:33:12.480 --> 0:33:15.640
<v Speaker 2>and the complete domination. And I understand he didn't match

0:33:15.720 --> 0:33:18.040
<v Speaker 2>up with a number of majors. I think a good

0:33:18.080 --> 0:33:22.520
<v Speaker 2>portion of that is injuries, but his ability to grind

0:33:22.560 --> 0:33:24.680
<v Speaker 2>and get top ten finishes. I just think the fields

0:33:24.720 --> 0:33:28.720
<v Speaker 2>were tougher. It's really it's a deeper pool of players.

0:33:29.040 --> 0:33:32.280
<v Speaker 2>Obviously a lot of the depth of talent now in

0:33:32.360 --> 0:33:36.200
<v Speaker 2>golf is because Tiger made golf cool for kids going

0:33:36.280 --> 0:33:39.440
<v Speaker 2>back twenty years ago, thirty years ago. But I'm gonna

0:33:39.440 --> 0:33:40.160
<v Speaker 2>go with Tiger Woods.

0:33:40.560 --> 0:33:45.880
<v Speaker 4>Jason Stewart, I'm gonna go Tiger Woods. Better golfer, worse husband.

0:33:47.760 --> 0:33:51.560
<v Speaker 3>Hey, I would say I would say Tiger as well.

0:33:51.800 --> 0:33:54.000
<v Speaker 3>And for a long time I was actually on the

0:33:54.200 --> 0:33:57.880
<v Speaker 3>jack side of things just because it was majors, that's

0:33:57.960 --> 0:34:01.280
<v Speaker 3>what That's what it was for me. But when Tiger

0:34:01.720 --> 0:34:06.840
<v Speaker 3>won his fifteenth Masters and beat the generation that he inspired,

0:34:07.840 --> 0:34:10.279
<v Speaker 3>that was that's what put it over the top. For

0:34:10.440 --> 0:34:13.200
<v Speaker 3>fifteenth Major, fifteenth Major. Yeah, what did I say Masters?

0:34:13.640 --> 0:34:17.040
<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry? Yeah, fifteenth Major, twenty nineteen Masters, that's what

0:34:17.239 --> 0:34:18.640
<v Speaker 3>put it over for many.

0:34:18.920 --> 0:34:19.600
<v Speaker 2>That was amazing.

0:34:20.160 --> 0:34:22.560
<v Speaker 3>It was amazing, Joel, is it a clean sweep or

0:34:22.640 --> 0:34:25.960
<v Speaker 3>are you going with the buck guy that is Jack Nicholas,

0:34:27.600 --> 0:34:29.840
<v Speaker 3>a Michigan man, would never go with a Buckeye. I

0:34:29.880 --> 0:34:32.560
<v Speaker 3>would say Tiger Woods. But I was so impressed with

0:34:32.600 --> 0:34:33.080
<v Speaker 3>the interview.

0:34:33.080 --> 0:34:34.360
<v Speaker 4>I saw of Tiger.

0:34:34.120 --> 0:34:37.759
<v Speaker 3>Woods as a kid dealing with racism in clubhouses in

0:34:37.960 --> 0:34:39.880
<v Speaker 3>different states, and for him to come out to be

0:34:39.920 --> 0:34:42.400
<v Speaker 3>the Tiger Woods he is. Kudos to Tiger.

0:34:42.760 --> 0:34:43.000
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

0:34:43.800 --> 0:34:47.120
<v Speaker 3>The hurdles that Tiger had to go through absolutely amazing.

0:34:47.280 --> 0:34:53.480
<v Speaker 3>All right, Wimbledon starts on Monday. There will be no Federer,

0:34:53.560 --> 0:34:56.239
<v Speaker 3>there will be no Nadal, but there will be Novak Djokovic,

0:34:57.120 --> 0:35:03.840
<v Speaker 3>greatest men's tennis player of all time. Djokovic Federer, Nadal, Doug.

0:35:03.840 --> 0:35:07.360
<v Speaker 2>Who you got Aaron Kristine at the US Open, or

0:35:07.480 --> 0:35:14.839
<v Speaker 2>Guy Yeah, or or Jimmy Connors when he christ. Yeah,

0:35:16.160 --> 0:35:21.920
<v Speaker 2>here I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go with Novak Djokovic.

0:35:23.040 --> 0:35:27.719
<v Speaker 2>I mean, truthfully, I think it's nadologist injuries and I

0:35:27.800 --> 0:35:29.640
<v Speaker 2>mean I know he dominated on clay, but I mean

0:35:29.840 --> 0:35:31.600
<v Speaker 2>for a clay court player to play as well as

0:35:31.640 --> 0:35:34.759
<v Speaker 2>he did on grass, uh and on hard court, but

0:35:34.920 --> 0:35:36.960
<v Speaker 2>just the injuries, I'm gonna go with Djokovic.

0:35:39.360 --> 0:35:39.480
<v Speaker 5>Uh.

0:35:39.880 --> 0:35:43.200
<v Speaker 2>You know, his stance on the code vaccine is inability

0:35:43.200 --> 0:35:45.399
<v Speaker 2>to be truthful probably cost him at least two more

0:35:46.200 --> 0:35:49.560
<v Speaker 2>uh but in Australia. But I still think he's the

0:35:49.640 --> 0:35:50.200
<v Speaker 2>greatest ever.

0:35:50.400 --> 0:35:54.359
<v Speaker 3>Jason Stewart, Oh wow, what Doug just said.

0:35:54.400 --> 0:35:56.560
<v Speaker 4>I think half our listeners are like, you mean, the

0:35:56.880 --> 0:36:00.480
<v Speaker 4>UH mandates and the governments kept him from when But anyways,

0:36:00.840 --> 0:36:02.279
<v Speaker 4>I won't go there, no, no, no, But.

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<v Speaker 2>Like if we're honest, if we're realistic about it, had

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<v Speaker 2>he just been like, there's something to just saying I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not getting the vaccine and that's not how he played it.

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<v Speaker 2>So just just to be just to be full full disclosure,

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<v Speaker 2>like he wasn't completely canid about it. So let's not

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<v Speaker 2>act like he's canonized now because the vaccines in many

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<v Speaker 2>ways weren't needed.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm going to try to not hold Federer's branding and

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<v Speaker 4>is that that emblem on his hat and clothes. I'm

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<v Speaker 4>going to try to hold down like the I would

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<v Speaker 4>never buy that, But I'm gonna say he's the greatest

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<v Speaker 4>of all time.

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<v Speaker 3>You got Federer. I actually will go with Djokovic as well.

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<v Speaker 3>I think when it's all said and done that we'll

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<v Speaker 3>look back and we'll say Djokovic.

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<v Speaker 2>That's not a joke.

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<v Speaker 3>No, it is not Joel Joel Jokovic, all right, Novak Djokovic.

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<v Speaker 2>Matter of fact, Joel actually just changed his name legally

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<v Speaker 2>to be with the D before the before.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, ah, good stuff. Pete Rose in the Hall

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<v Speaker 3>of Fame or not in the Hall of Fame, don't

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<v Speaker 3>ever where do you stand?

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<v Speaker 2>Never again? Pete Rose has never once been honest about

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<v Speaker 2>the fact that he bet on baseball while being a

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<v Speaker 2>player manager in baseball. Never once doubt report doesn't lie.

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<v Speaker 2>It's damning. He has never once owned up to it.

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<v Speaker 2>And so you know there's a rule right there on

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<v Speaker 2>the clubhouse every clubhouse in baseball camp out on the sport,

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<v Speaker 2>and he violate that rule. What's the point had rules

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<v Speaker 2>that we don't live up to him?

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<v Speaker 3>Jason Stewart, where do you stand on Pete Rose in Cooperstown?

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<v Speaker 5>See?

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<v Speaker 4>I know it's a recent thing to undo punishments and

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<v Speaker 4>let people out of prison for laws that no longer exist.

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<v Speaker 4>But I'm always going to be the under the belief

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<v Speaker 4>if you willfully do something you know is against the rules,

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<v Speaker 4>you should be bound for life.

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<v Speaker 3>The and for life never in. All Right, I'm gonna say, gosh,

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<v Speaker 3>even to this moment, I'm gonna say in. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 3>say in just to be different, Joel, not question of

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<v Speaker 3>Pete Rose, but music bed continuing in this segment or

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<v Speaker 3>not continuing in this segment? Okay, Now the second question,

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<v Speaker 3>Pete Rose in the Hall of Fame or never in

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<v Speaker 3>the Hall of fame? Joel, He's in, but he's dead already. Oh,

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<v Speaker 3>he caveat. Joel wants death first. But then it's split

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<v Speaker 3>in versus never two to two, all right, Belichick versus Brady.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's switch to the NFL. A couple more of these,

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<v Speaker 3>then we'll wrap it up.

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<v Speaker 2>Belichick.

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<v Speaker 3>Jason I have to go with Brady on this one. Sorry, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going with Bill. Joel held to the victors. How

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<v Speaker 3>about Patriots dynasty versus forty nine Ers dynasty? Just closer

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<v Speaker 3>than people maybe would think, But.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm gonna go Patriot. And my logic bind was

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<v Speaker 2>the crazy part. The best Patriots teams didn't actually win

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<v Speaker 2>a super Bowl. The undefeated team lost to the Super Bowl,

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<v Speaker 2>and then Brady got hurt the next year with an

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<v Speaker 2>unbelievable roster didn't actually win a super Bowl. To go

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<v Speaker 2>ten years in the middle without winning Super Bowl, and

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<v Speaker 2>then you know when the others in the back end,

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<v Speaker 2>especially with the landscape of the sport changing so much.

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<v Speaker 2>In the salary cap, I go Patriots.

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<v Speaker 4>Jason Stewart, I can't argue with that. That's a good

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<v Speaker 4>argument for Patriots.

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<v Speaker 5>Yep.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's interesting. I figured I feel that they cracked

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<v Speaker 3>the code that nobody else got and actually feel that

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<v Speaker 3>it put him at a stronger advantage where the Niners

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<v Speaker 3>had to go through actually better teams. Give me the

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<v Speaker 3>Niners in this one, Joel forty nine Ers or Patriots Patriots.

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<v Speaker 3>Although the management with the Niners looked better than the Patriots,

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<v Speaker 3>all right, Thursday night Must See TV on NBC A

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<v Speaker 3>trifecta here, where do you lie? Cheers? Seinfeld Friends.

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<v Speaker 2>Cheers one, Seinfeld two, Friends three.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, so the answer is cheers and Jason Stewart Man, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I think Cheers is the best.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm just gonna go Cheers. I'm not gonna rank them,

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<v Speaker 4>just cheers.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna take Seinfeld on this one, Joel Cheers Cheers Wow.

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<v Speaker 3>And finally in and out versus Waterburger.

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<v Speaker 5>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah we hear it. Did not see that one coming.

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<v Speaker 5>Uh.

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<v Speaker 3>I hate this one. Actually, this is the This is

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<v Speaker 3>the debate that I hate the most because it's just

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<v Speaker 3>so annoying on a meet Friday. It's the only way

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<v Speaker 3>to end it.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I gotta go Terburger. I is this own

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<v Speaker 2>me in my home state, whatever, But I'm gonna go let.

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<v Speaker 4>A burger, Jason. I had a waterburger once. Uh, and

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<v Speaker 4>it's tasted like a Burger king whopper, and that's much

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<v Speaker 4>inferior to in and out.

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<v Speaker 3>In and out burgers are best. I call it what

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<v Speaker 3>an awful burger? Give me in an out Joel. The

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<v Speaker 3>final say what a burger?

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<v Speaker 6>There?

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<v Speaker 3>It is your debates of.

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<v Speaker 2>All you ever had? You ever had doctor pepper shake

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<v Speaker 2>at What Burger? No, that's good. Plus they got the

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<v Speaker 2>spicy ketchup. What a ketchup? I love it. And at

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<v Speaker 2>Burger and the people who say, well, I don't wake

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<v Speaker 2>in Altburgers fries, that's because the other fries are not

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<v Speaker 2>real French fries. These are real French fries. Huge Whataburger guy.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, if somebody would throw in some Kings

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<v Speaker 2>of Wine rolls with him, that'd be amazing. Happy Meat

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<v Speaker 2>Friday to you. Have a great weekend for Dan Bayer,

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<v Speaker 2>Jason gorre Joel. I'm Doug Gottliep. This The Dan Patrick Show.